@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 Funny enough, the Germs did cross my mind, but they were part of the Hollywood punk scene of the 70s, and not really what would be considered hardcore. Great album though!
@@ExpatChef71 True. The Lexicon Devil days were totally punk, but the gi album is a different beast. More hardcore sounding than stuff like Middle Class and Morris's era Flag imo.
I hate being the “no mention of ____ “ guy but where tf are Cro Mags !!! And also all the power violence stuff if it counts as part of the whole thing idk tbh
Trunstile is the new face of hardcore. My random friend in Germany asked me if I knew them because I live in Baltimore, he didn't knew I was into hardcore.
Got step 2 rhythm on vinyl when i was 13 and was hooked, my dad raised me on black flag, dead Kennedys, fugazi and loads of music from other genres but hardcore and punk are my favourites
Minor Threat was absolutely my introduction to hardcore . As a kid in 87 it opened up a new world from listening to Black Sabbath , Maiden , GnR , Metallica and Anthrax . It had some elements but way more gritty ! And I liked that !
As someone who never listened to any kind of rock music before, my gateway drug was System of a Down. From there I checked other metal bands and couldn't find anything similar, but then discovered Dead Kennedys, which I loved. I kinda looked into hardcore punk, and I think I prefer it to metal. It's more fast-paced and energetic. I'm thinking now which band to dive into after DK.
Oh thank you, Finn. You saved me from running into someone in the gym who wanted to get into hardcore and me tripping over my own words to convert someone into a hardcore listener and fainting from a tidal wave of names and arf arfs! 😅😂 You are making our lives so much better!!
I live in KY and Knocked Loose is a local band where I live. Absolutely fucking insane to see them take off like they have. They definitely deserve it. Nothing local about them anymore hahaha
for me it was Comeback Kid when i heard Wake the Dead for the first time in 04'. years later at 07 Warped tour, the B9 tent was handing out comp CDs for free and Have Heart, Bane, Bitter End and the rest was history. CBK got me into hardcore, and it will be in the dirt with me. Comeback Kid is always a easy listen for new hardcore fans. put that in there.
Hardcore collectively can be really toxic sometimes but certain scenes/ friend groups can be super friendly and welcoming. Went to outbreak in Manchester this year and it was great! Everyone i met was amazing and friendly, drain played there first uk show and beind in a xibalba pit and stagediving to terror made my summer this year.
I would start with the band all these bands you mentioned worshipped-The Bad Brains. Arguably they only put out one hardcore record but it was still early enough to be considered the bar for everything else after.
@@GFloyd71 It really was the blueprint. The musicianship, speed, vocals, the breakdowns; not to mention their image. By the time everyone else had caught up, they already moved on with I Against I which was another trailblazer.
If going chronologically, I'd say Germs! Am I the only one who doens't really like Blag Flag? Their earlier stuff is so stock, and the later stuff is avant garde bullshit. And yeah, Bad Brains is absolutely essential. I would also recommend Circle Jerks, GBH, and The Exploited.
Got into hardcore with knocked loose and within a year I've been hitting diy shows in my local scene. They might be polarizing but they've got a lot of people into hardcore.
for sure! I'm relatively new to it all but I went to see their Co-headliner your with Terror, and that introduced me to a lot of the older hardcore stuff is been neglecting
I could swear I saw that Knocked Loose was opening for Motionless in White last year. Is there a big overlap of fans with hardcore and... I guess MIW is metalcore?
Good video, man. I'm a post-hardcore listener myself, but this was a nice introduction to earlier hardcore from a guy who knows hardcore. Glad to see you putting up videos like this as well. Appreciate that!
I just watch hate5six videos to learn about new hardcore bands lol. God's Hate and Inclination are the last two that really impressed me. Such a delicious sound.
His content is an incredible avenue for being introduced to new hardcore bands. It was the meme associated with Harm's Way that drew me to his content, and I've been in love with the genre ever since. It's music that I always wish had existed that - unbeknownst to me for nearly three decades - always has. Harm's Way and Gridiron are my current favorites.
Love to see the Have Heart love. Growing up in the Boston hardcore scene in the mid-00s, those dudes were the pinnacle and that reunion show was amazing. Pat Flynn's new band, Fiddlehead, is also getting traction now. I don't think you're really into Run for Cover Records style post-hardcore but it's a good listen.
I discovered Hardcore with Comeback Kid in 2008 then became a fan of all the hardcore band of B9 records (Have Heart, Verse, Defeater, Modern Life Is War, Verse...), this sound needs a comeback!
Hatebreed, Terror, and Cryptic Slaughter are my HC go-tos. I love Hatebreed's aggressive positivity. No bad albums either. Jamey can convince me to achieve my goals and provide a rough idea of what my goal could be, if I don't have one in mind. Tony Robbins core all the way.
I'm SOOOOO glad you put that Have Heart album in there!!! That is one of my favorite Hardcore records of all time. The songs are tremendous. Same with the production.
There was a burgeoning punk scene in my high school, and I introduced the punk rockers in my school to Gorilla Biscuits. Lil' ol' me! Posers, the lot of them!! I remember having Start Today blaring in my ears courtesy of my 1st generation iPod while clobbering guys on the football field. What a beautiful time 👊🤘
All awesome bands in the video, obviously. Didn't expect otherwise ;-) HOWEVER : Sick Of It All should be on there. I've seen them live a ton of times now, and they have never disappointed. I agree they're not that easy to listen to digitally, but their liveshows are something that sets them apart, despite being on larger stages the past 10 or so years. They're going strong since 1986 and have sooooo much energy. Also, Stick To Your Guns is a must in every HC list, because of their lyrics, engagement, energy ... They're a band that can really pull you through on difficult days and their live performances are insane. As a Belgian HC-kid, I've been blessed with some massively unkown hardcore bands in my region, so make sure to check out Congress, Arkangel, Liar, Born From Pain, Backfire, and Angel Crew. They defined the Dutch/Belgian HC scene in the 90's/early 2000's.
As a big fan of modern hardcore bands, it's nice to see a video talking about where alot of those bands got their inspiration. I'd love more videos like this on other genres
except he left out the band that inspired all the other early 80's hardcore - Bad Brains, who invented hardcore, imo. then they pioneered another genre - punk/metal/funk by their 2nd album.
Nice starter for new people trying to get in, also help to clarify some of the confusion that comes with hardcore is it punk is it metal, it's it's own thing.
I’ve loved hatebreed ever since I was at a club in my twenties snd they played Live for this. I saw them ages ago in Oxford (uk) and Jamie’s attitude snd performance was amazing. Such positivity that smacks your face at the same time. I never knew HB were classed as hardcore so thank you! Awesome breakdown (pun) of some top bands there Finn! 💎
Terror can do no wrong. After discovering hardcore in my early teens through Punk-O-Rama compa, Terror was the first hardcore band I fully got into. Changed my life. Love those guys so much
Ceremony’s first three albums with all the demos and EPs from this era. Crazy, sad that they are so underrated, but with their latest albums I understand why😔
Being that I was there (yeah Im old), and living in NY at the time, I would suggest these 5 albums as a starter. Minor Threat (the complete discography CD would do), The Misfits - Static Age, Walk Among Us or Earth AD, (all 3 are great), Bad Religion - How Could Hell Be Any Worse, Black Flag - the first four years is fine as suggested, Angry Samoans - Back From Samoa. Honorable mentions to check out, The Meatmen - We're the Meatmen and you suck, 7 Seconds - The Crew, Cromags - Age of Quarrell, Murphy's Law - Murphy's law, Underdog - The Demos, Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables. That should be a solid start.
On violence ay hatebreed shows.... saw them when I was 15 (32 now). Bunch of older friends brought me and snook me into the opera house. We were at the front the whole show, some like 30 year old girl pushed in front of me (which was fine, we had our time at the front) but she had long ass dreads. She kept headbanging and thrashing me with them and when I asked her to stop she doubled down. Well...one of her dreads became lodged in my super edgy wristband with spikes and not really thinking I just pulled as hard as I could to get it off. She happened to be on the forward trajectory of headbanging, so her motion coupled with me yanking the opposite way let me to have a whole ass 3 foot long dread stuck to my wrist. She just looked shocked and left the pit. I threw the wristband away never to be seen again. Then we drank beer in a minivan with no seats facing the wrong way the whole trip back. Good times.
One of my favorite Terror shows I went to was at The Door in Fort Worth, TX around 2008. They were touring with The Warriors and The Warriors didn't make it to the show. So Terror played a double set that was every song they could remember from their discography. It was amazing.
yep, their 2nd release "In god We Trust, Inc." was an early hardcore classic, followed by the epic "Plastic Surgery Disasters" - their first album is slower "punk" but they amped it way up by 1981. I feel like people forget about them because they weren't in one of the hardcore hotspots - which were LA and DC in the early 80's. Same thing with excellent 80's bands like Big Boys (Texas), Husker Du (Minnesota), Squirrelbait (Kentucky), No Means No (Victoria BC), The Ex (Amsterdam), Dog Faced hermans (Scotland then Amsterdam). All a little outside the "scene" locales.
I know that you have to cover EVERYTHING in order to maintain your channel, but I LOVE when you put that MBA to work. I love when you talk about PUNK. It’s how I was introduced to your channel years ago, and it’s what you are best at. Punk is not dead!
Started getting in to hardcore around 2006 with local bands from the Midwest notedly In The Face of War. My favorite band on the B9 was Verse. Band was so awesome and had some of the best lyrics. This video rules. Thanks Flynn for always holding it down.
A band that I feel has disappeared into history is Guns Up. I was in a hardcore band here in the UK from about 2008-2010, and we used to cover Terror and Guns Up (I think we formed because the bassist posted a Myspace bulletin saying he wanted to form a band that sounded like Terror; that's how old I am). So many bands used to cover Guns Up back then, and it would always go down a storm. I remember us supporting some European band once, and they went fucking nuts when we played Guns Up. I wonder how many other bands have disappeared into obscurity despite being genuinely influential.
Have Heart type hardcore that is about the lyricism, social message, and being triumphant needs to make a come back. I like the crazy heavy breakdown hardcore like Knocked Loose as much as the next guy. But there is something so much more heavy about Have Heart because of their lyricism. Bostons and Armed with a Mind always get me hyped for a deadlift. Edit: for anyone who hasn’t, you need to check out Have Heart’s last show on TH-cam. The energy in that room is out of this world.
I remember getting a sampler at my local record store when one with the underdogs was about to come out and hearing terror for the first time literally changed my life. I wouldn't be who I am today without them.
My start on hardcore I think it started between Agnostic Front that I randomly found on TH-cam in my highschool years after I watched my senior with his HC band in local show, and Madball that my classmates shared.
One with the Underdogs is absolutely incredible, it was my gateway to hardcore when I was younger and still one of my favorite hardcore albums, not this time is one of my favorite hardcore songs ever, what an incredible album
I honestly love brian from knocked loose's style of vocals, I like the yell style of hardcore vocals has a more raw human feel to it. I hope to see more bands try to emulate the scarlxrd yell into hardcore.
Liking your videos a lot, I didn't know much about Hardcore, not my style, but I thought it was like Helmet. I like the sound of Earth Crisis and Madball out of these - good stuff!
Went to a Slapshot show like 2 months ago. Didn't really listen to the band before, but I rarely miss any hardcore bands that come to my city. I honestly think they'd be a pretty good introduction to east coast hardcore sound. Madball is also great, seen them live two times, most wholesome shows I've been to.
I started with listening to punk, then I listened that Earth AD/Wolfsblood album from The Misfits and the way that punk songs sounded, raw and fast was the starting point of hardcore for me, after that I started listening to Minor Threat, Black Flag, Bad Religion, D.R.I, Anti Cimex, Varukers, Mob 47, Black Uniforms and a long list of European bands that sound like Discharge
Casey Jones, TUI, Killing The Dream, Verse, and all that era is where I started being introduced to hardcore and held up today imo. I got into the older stuff later on lol.
Have Heart was the BIG hardcore band here in New England in their day. Lucky to be a teenager back then in that scene. Lots of great bands touring regularly. Listen to Hammer Bros
Awesome video I actually saw madball had no idea who they were as soon as they started 100’s of guys in basketball shorts just showed up and went absolutely nuts
Bloodlet - Entheogen is an amazing album (Victory Records). I still listen to it at least 3 or 4 times a year. Saw them live at the wonderful "Jaxx" in Springfield, VA during that album tour in the late 90s. I think Cause for Alarm opened.
Have Heart were very popular in Australia or at least in Brisbane, where I'm from. When they came to Brisbane on their worldwide farewell tour in 2009, the venue (Princess Theatre - RIP) was the most packed i had ever seen it. One of the craziest show i ever went to. I'd go see them in a heart beat if they came back here.
I think it would be cool personally if when you're showing these hardcore songs, you can have a space where your just present while the music's playing. It kind of robs the listener of the feeling when you talk over the band's music.
This is like the 5th video in a week I've watched where someone mentioned Earth Crisis.... that's it. I'm downloading all of their stuff now. I remember hearing Snapcase when I was like 11 and thinking it was the coolest shit ever. More recently, I've gotten into Turnstile and I love their more upbeat take on the sound. Hatebreed's another one I need to check out more of because I met Jamey Jasta once at a show and he's probably the most humble musician I've ever met in my life. Super nice guy. Awesome video, man!
@@rlg42 Lol it was a slight exaggeration. Although I do usually like to check out a band's entire catalog at least once when I'm getting into them. What would you say are their best albums/EPs, in your opinion?
Growing up in the 90s, I already knew the Metallica/Nirvana/Korn mainstream side of rock. My friends introduced me to Minor Threat and then Fugazi and it opened up a whole new world of music (that would eventually include other bands like Earth Crisis, ATDI, Thursday, etc.).
When it comes to my passion for hardcore it was determined since being born with a name with the initials HC. My favorite bands are Agnostic Front, Madball, Terror, Hatebreed, Cro-Mags, H2O, BillyBio and Lionheart.
For me the 1st 4 on your list are on mine aswell and I do like Cro Mags but not that much so I'd say Agnostic Front, Madball, Terror, Hatebreed, Judge, Earth Crisis, Black Flag, Minor Threat and Bad Brains. I like bands who either have intense sounds, intense lyrics or both.
Became a fan of hardcore punk literally 3 weeks ago. Did my research and bought like 10 cd's lol like Bad Brains, DRI, circle jerks, Suicidal tendencies, minor, mdc, but my favorite album so far is 7 seconds alt hardcore compilation. So good. I really enjoy teen idles, uniform choice, gang green, and wasted youth, this is Boston not LA and dischord comps. This is all coming from a Huge techno/House, hip hop, metal guy lol Love the speed and musical talent of the genre, with the raw! Would love some more recommendations
If you like the more metallic hardcore stuff then you should listen to beatdown and crossover thrash 👌🏼 the bands Speed and Mindforce are killing it when it comes to those genres respectively
That’s where I started. Agnostic Front, Sheer Terror, Madball, Minor Threat, Earth Crisis, Crisis, Bad Brains, Judge, Gorilla Biscuits, converge, etc… I could go on, especially with the cross over. Discharge is a good place to start, they cover all it all!
Now I understand the kids I knew when I was 16 and into Thrash metal who looked like they liked heavier music than me, had face tattoos but actually just liked punk. Had no idea there was this whole sub genre and sub culture.
It's funny how the general public thinks hardcore died after minor threat and BF broke up. Bridge Nine and HH were such a big deal up here in New England in the late 2000's. Very glad that Boston hardcore is still a huge part of people's lives
Really cool video. You mentioned bands that i love and listen almost everyday. Just want to leave 3 nice Portuguese Hardcore bands... Devil In Me, For The Glory, and Reality Slap, search them and enjoy. Great respect from Portugal...
i started out only listening to old stuff (minor threat, dead kennedys, black flag) and then jumped straight into more modern stuff a few years back (turnstile, incendiary, gulch.) only recently started listening to stuff from the 90s and 00s this shot rules
You're right about have hearts reunion boost of popularity. They had 300 people at the Atlanta date of the farewell tour, and 10 thousand at the reunion!
I'd start with Minor Threat and Bad Brains' ROIR cassette.
And end with late 80s Sick of it All and Sheer Terror. Everything "hardcore" after that sounds just like metal.
D.O.A.'s Hardcore '81 is also a good kick off.
@@ExpatChef71 Too rough for beginners. I'd say the official start should be a band that is never mentioned in this channel for some reason: Germs!
@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 Funny enough, the Germs did cross my mind, but they were part of the Hollywood punk scene of the 70s, and not really what would be considered hardcore. Great album though!
@@ExpatChef71 True. The Lexicon Devil days were totally punk, but the gi album is a different beast. More hardcore sounding than stuff like Middle Class and Morris's era Flag imo.
I hate being the “no mention of ____ “ guy but where tf are Cro Mags !!! And also all the power violence stuff if it counts as part of the whole thing idk tbh
Cro Mags weren’t that good. I mean… the guys are good people and they care about being authentic, but the music is …. Ok/pretty good.
As normie, honestly the more recommendations the merrier
Revenge is one of the best albums in the genre for me
@@hotuish literally the reverse of that is true.
Trunstile is the new face of hardcore. My random friend in Germany asked me if I knew them because I live in Baltimore, he didn't knew I was into hardcore.
They are the Bad Brains (which were missing here, too) of this generation, with their alternative hardcore sound.
@@SharksInYourMouth193 bad brains started hc, their alternative sound came later
@@dragginmedown so did Turnstile. And there are Reggae and other a-typical song parts on the Bad Brains debut, already.
Got step 2 rhythm on vinyl when i was 13 and was hooked, my dad raised me on black flag, dead Kennedys, fugazi and loads of music from other genres but hardcore and punk are my favourites
It's punk Jane's addiction
Minor Threat was absolutely my introduction to hardcore . As a kid in 87 it opened up a new world from listening to Black Sabbath , Maiden , GnR , Metallica and Anthrax . It had some elements but way more gritty ! And I liked that !
Start with the Holy Trinity: Bad Brains, Black Flag, and Minor Threat.
quickly followed by Minutemen, Husker Du, and Dead Kennedys (2nd album onwards).
I’d follow with Refused TSOPTC
As someone who never listened to any kind of rock music before, my gateway drug was System of a Down. From there I checked other metal bands and couldn't find anything similar, but then discovered Dead Kennedys, which I loved. I kinda looked into hardcore punk, and I think I prefer it to metal. It's more fast-paced and energetic. I'm thinking now which band to dive into after DK.
@@musicglenn why DK's 2nd album onwards? I love their first album, it's probably my favorite, and it's my first hardcore album ever.
@@PyroNexus22 i like it too, just wouldn't call it hardcore
Oh thank you, Finn. You saved me from running into someone in the gym who wanted to get into hardcore and me tripping over my own words to convert someone into a hardcore listener and fainting from a tidal wave of names and arf arfs! 😅😂 You are making our lives so much better!!
I live in KY and Knocked Loose is a local band where I live. Absolutely fucking insane to see them take off like they have. They definitely deserve it. Nothing local about them anymore hahaha
same here, been tryna find some local shows for hardcore and some punk shows. got any recommendations?
@@Benji-vw4ijlouisville has a few hc fests
@@vin_fm2354 Only thing I know of is Louder Than Life and i wouldn't exactly consider that hc even though it has some bands that fit the category.
@@Benji-vw4ij there’s a hardcore band called Raptured from Lexington. They play around Kentucky a bit.
for me it was Comeback Kid when i heard Wake the Dead for the first time in 04'. years later at 07 Warped tour, the B9 tent was handing out comp CDs for free and Have Heart, Bane, Bitter End and the rest was history. CBK got me into hardcore, and it will be in the dirt with me.
Comeback Kid is always a easy listen for new hardcore fans. put that in there.
Hardcore collectively can be really toxic sometimes but certain scenes/ friend groups can be super friendly and welcoming. Went to outbreak in Manchester this year and it was great! Everyone i met was amazing and friendly, drain played there first uk show and beind in a xibalba pit and stagediving to terror made my summer this year.
I would start with the band all these bands you mentioned worshipped-The Bad Brains. Arguably they only put out one hardcore record but it was still early enough to be considered the bar for everything else after.
Definitely
The ROIR Banned in DC cassette is arguably the pinnacle of early hardcore.
@@GFloyd71 It really was the blueprint. The musicianship, speed, vocals, the breakdowns; not to mention their image. By the time everyone else had caught up, they already moved on with I Against I which was another trailblazer.
If going chronologically, I'd say Germs! Am I the only one who doens't really like Blag Flag? Their earlier stuff is so stock, and the later stuff is avant garde bullshit. And yeah, Bad Brains is absolutely essential. I would also recommend Circle Jerks, GBH, and The Exploited.
Got into hardcore with knocked loose and within a year I've been hitting diy shows in my local scene. They might be polarizing but they've got a lot of people into hardcore.
for sure! I'm relatively new to it all but I went to see their Co-headliner your with Terror, and that introduced me to a lot of the older hardcore stuff is been neglecting
I could swear I saw that Knocked Loose was opening for Motionless in White last year. Is there a big overlap of fans with hardcore and... I guess MIW is metalcore?
Good video, man. I'm a post-hardcore listener myself, but this was a nice introduction to earlier hardcore from a guy who knows hardcore. Glad to see you putting up videos like this as well. Appreciate that!
I just watch hate5six videos to learn about new hardcore bands lol. God's Hate and Inclination are the last two that really impressed me. Such a delicious sound.
Haha! Same here! God’s Hate are insane!
Inclination is the same guitar player from KL
@@patharwood3948 If you like Isacc Hale listen to weaponX, Brian is the bass player too
His content is an incredible avenue for being introduced to new hardcore bands. It was the meme associated with Harm's Way that drew me to his content, and I've been in love with the genre ever since. It's music that I always wish had existed that - unbeknownst to me for nearly three decades - always has. Harm's Way and Gridiron are my current favorites.
Yupppp that channel put me on Jesus Piece and they are fucking amazing
Love to see the Have Heart love. Growing up in the Boston hardcore scene in the mid-00s, those dudes were the pinnacle and that reunion show was amazing. Pat Flynn's new band, Fiddlehead, is also getting traction now. I don't think you're really into Run for Cover Records style post-hardcore but it's a good listen.
I remember hearing Have Heart for the first time and I was like “kinda reminds me of Silverstein at their heaviest just all the time”
i loved that mid 00s boston scene, hh, guns up, bane, american nightmare/give up the ghost, mental, righteous jams, shipwreck ad
@@subparnaturedocumentary gunsup!
@@haveheart456 had the honor of seeing yous with guns up at this is hardcore some years back.
@@subparnaturedocumentary im not have heart lol just a fan
I discovered Hardcore with Comeback Kid in 2008 then became a fan of all the hardcore band of B9 records (Have Heart, Verse, Defeater, Modern Life Is War, Verse...), this sound needs a comeback!
This is the hardcore I fell in love with and still am
Comeback Kid's Broadcasting is untouchable
Awesome bands
This is definitely my favorite sound and era of Hardcore!
This era of HC/Melodic HC was the one!
Hatebreed, Terror, and Cryptic Slaughter are my HC go-tos. I love Hatebreed's aggressive positivity. No bad albums either. Jamey can convince me to achieve my goals and provide a rough idea of what my goal could be, if I don't have one in mind. Tony Robbins core all the way.
Yes. Their EP and the first full length is all the Hatebreed you will ever need.
Oh yeah!! Satisfaction has got to be the best album ever!! Can't wait to see them October 30th at the agora theater in Cleveland Ohio 🇺🇲❤️💯
I love these starter kits. Finding new subgenres and bands i didn’t know
I'm SOOOOO glad you put that Have Heart album in there!!! That is one of my favorite Hardcore records of all time. The songs are tremendous. Same with the production.
Pailhead was an interesting collaboration of Ian (Minor Threat) and Al (Ministry). Straight edge and junkie mashup.
Dude start today is the top tier of that style. 100%
Still sounds so good today
Jammed it for the first time in years recently. Front to back, a certified classic!
There was a burgeoning punk scene in my high school, and I introduced the punk rockers in my school to Gorilla Biscuits. Lil' ol' me! Posers, the lot of them!! I remember having Start Today blaring in my ears courtesy of my 1st generation iPod while clobbering guys on the football field. What a beautiful time 👊🤘
All awesome bands in the video, obviously. Didn't expect otherwise ;-)
HOWEVER : Sick Of It All should be on there. I've seen them live a ton of times now, and they have never disappointed. I agree they're not that easy to listen to digitally, but their liveshows are something that sets them apart, despite being on larger stages the past 10 or so years. They're going strong since 1986 and have sooooo much energy.
Also, Stick To Your Guns is a must in every HC list, because of their lyrics, engagement, energy ... They're a band that can really pull you through on difficult days and their live performances are insane.
As a Belgian HC-kid, I've been blessed with some massively unkown hardcore bands in my region, so make sure to check out Congress, Arkangel, Liar, Born From Pain, Backfire, and Angel Crew. They defined the Dutch/Belgian HC scene in the 90's/early 2000's.
For me it was Norma Jean: Bless the martyr and kiss the child. Absolutely phenomenal album
As a big fan of modern hardcore bands, it's nice to see a video talking about where alot of those bands got their inspiration. I'd love more videos like this on other genres
except he left out the band that inspired all the other early 80's hardcore - Bad Brains, who invented hardcore, imo. then they pioneered another genre - punk/metal/funk by their 2nd album.
I agree, I instantly liked knocked loose because their vocals remind me so much of The Warriors.
Yess, the warriors and poison the well, that's the band that got me into hardcore along with comeback kid.
Nice starter for new people trying to get in, also help to clarify some of the confusion that comes with hardcore is it punk is it metal, it's it's own thing.
I’ve loved hatebreed ever since I was at a club in my twenties snd they played Live for this. I saw them ages ago in Oxford (uk) and Jamie’s attitude snd performance was amazing. Such positivity that smacks your face at the same time. I never knew HB were classed as hardcore so thank you! Awesome breakdown (pun) of some top bands there Finn! 💎
Terror can do no wrong. After discovering hardcore in my early teens through Punk-O-Rama compa, Terror was the first hardcore band I fully got into. Changed my life. Love those guys so much
Ceremony’s first three albums with all the demos and EPs from this era. Crazy, sad that they are so underrated, but with their latest albums I understand why😔
Being that I was there (yeah Im old), and living in NY at the time, I would suggest these 5 albums as a starter. Minor Threat (the complete discography CD would do), The Misfits - Static Age, Walk Among Us or Earth AD, (all 3 are great), Bad Religion - How Could Hell Be Any Worse, Black Flag - the first four years is fine as suggested, Angry Samoans - Back From Samoa. Honorable mentions to check out, The Meatmen - We're the Meatmen and you suck, 7 Seconds - The Crew, Cromags - Age of Quarrell, Murphy's Law - Murphy's law, Underdog - The Demos, Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables. That should be a solid start.
On violence ay hatebreed shows.... saw them when I was 15 (32 now). Bunch of older friends brought me and snook me into the opera house. We were at the front the whole show, some like 30 year old girl pushed in front of me (which was fine, we had our time at the front) but she had long ass dreads. She kept headbanging and thrashing me with them and when I asked her to stop she doubled down. Well...one of her dreads became lodged in my super edgy wristband with spikes and not really thinking I just pulled as hard as I could to get it off. She happened to be on the forward trajectory of headbanging, so her motion coupled with me yanking the opposite way let me to have a whole ass 3 foot long dread stuck to my wrist. She just looked shocked and left the pit. I threw the wristband away never to be seen again. Then we drank beer in a minivan with no seats facing the wrong way the whole trip back. Good times.
One of my favorite Terror shows I went to was at The Door in Fort Worth, TX around 2008.
They were touring with The Warriors and The Warriors didn't make it to the show. So Terror played a double set that was every song they could remember from their discography. It was amazing.
I like that the thumbnail is actually a condensed version of the video’s content. So it’s actually useful.
Curious where Dead Kennedys would fit in here? I feel like you don’t talk much about them and they’re one of my favorites
yep, their 2nd release "In god We Trust, Inc." was an early hardcore classic, followed by the epic "Plastic Surgery Disasters" - their first album is slower "punk" but they amped it way up by 1981. I feel like people forget about them because they weren't in one of the hardcore hotspots - which were LA and DC in the early 80's. Same thing with excellent 80's bands like Big Boys (Texas), Husker Du (Minnesota), Squirrelbait (Kentucky), No Means No (Victoria BC), The Ex (Amsterdam), Dog Faced hermans (Scotland then Amsterdam). All a little outside the "scene" locales.
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Youth of today is the absolute best, and shelter
Dead Kennedys are in his Punk Starter Pack video
I know that you have to cover EVERYTHING in order to maintain your channel, but I LOVE when you put that MBA to work. I love when you talk about PUNK. It’s how I was introduced to your channel years ago, and it’s what you are best at. Punk is not dead!
Theres not much to say about punk these days, you know?
This was super helpful to get a feel for the history of the genre and I heard lots of shit I want to check out some more. Thanks for this!
Started getting in to hardcore around 2006 with local bands from the Midwest notedly In The Face of War. My favorite band on the B9 was Verse. Band was so awesome and had some of the best lyrics. This video rules. Thanks Flynn for always holding it down.
A band that I feel has disappeared into history is Guns Up. I was in a hardcore band here in the UK from about 2008-2010, and we used to cover Terror and Guns Up (I think we formed because the bassist posted a Myspace bulletin saying he wanted to form a band that sounded like Terror; that's how old I am).
So many bands used to cover Guns Up back then, and it would always go down a storm. I remember us supporting some European band once, and they went fucking nuts when we played Guns Up. I wonder how many other bands have disappeared into obscurity despite being genuinely influential.
loved guns up seen them quite a few times in philadelphia and south new jersey. that early-mid 2000s boston scene was decent
Have Heart type hardcore that is about the lyricism, social message, and being triumphant needs to make a come back.
I like the crazy heavy breakdown hardcore like Knocked Loose as much as the next guy. But there is something so much more heavy about Have Heart because of their lyricism. Bostons and Armed with a Mind always get me hyped for a deadlift.
Edit: for anyone who hasn’t, you need to check out Have Heart’s last show on TH-cam. The energy in that room is out of this world.
literally lol
Have Fart is terrible. Social message? Hahaha
Siege, Judge, M.D.C and Negative Approach are my top pics.
I remember getting a sampler at my local record store when one with the underdogs was about to come out and hearing terror for the first time literally changed my life. I wouldn't be who I am today without them.
Thank you so much, Ive always loved hardcore but never really went full mode with it.
Terror are easily the most important hardcore band of the past 20 years
I didn’t like Knocked Loose…Then I saw them live and now I’m a huge fan. That band is insane. I swear the whole room turned into one giant Mosh pit.
My friend put me onto hardcore with bands like Ten Yard Fight, Floorpunch, JUDGE, BANE, Madball and Reach The Sky.
I've found a lot of cool stuff to listen to thanks to your Hardcore content. Appreciate it
My start on hardcore I think it started between Agnostic Front that I randomly found on TH-cam in my highschool years after I watched my senior with his HC band in local show, and Madball that my classmates shared.
One with the Underdogs is absolutely incredible, it was my gateway to hardcore when I was younger and still one of my favorite hardcore albums, not this time is one of my favorite hardcore songs ever, what an incredible album
Yo, the not this time riff is one the hardest ever
Agree
@@rlg42 I agree. Lowest of the low and one with the underdogs are their best albums. Not this time is hard af
@@dragginmedown their new album is the best one since KOTF.
Knocked Loose and Left Behind are my favourite modern Hardcore bands. Great video Finn.
Loved the video! For me my gateway bands where Madball, Agnostic Front, 7 Seconds and Minor Threat
I honestly love brian from knocked loose's style of vocals, I like the yell style of hardcore vocals has a more raw human feel to it. I hope to see more bands try to emulate the scarlxrd yell into hardcore.
Man thanks for mentioning Have Heart I had forgotten that band!!!
Liking your videos a lot, I didn't know much about Hardcore, not my style, but I thought it was like Helmet. I like the sound of Earth Crisis and Madball out of these - good stuff!
Went to a Slapshot show like 2 months ago. Didn't really listen to the band before, but I rarely miss any hardcore bands that come to my city. I honestly think they'd be a pretty good introduction to east coast hardcore sound. Madball is also great, seen them live two times, most wholesome shows I've been to.
I was the same with knocked loose vocals but also really like em now. Great band. Interesting vid, thanks
I started with listening to punk, then I listened that Earth AD/Wolfsblood album from The Misfits and the way that punk songs sounded, raw and fast was the starting point of hardcore for me, after that I started listening to Minor Threat, Black Flag, Bad Religion, D.R.I, Anti Cimex, Varukers, Mob 47, Black Uniforms and a long list of European bands that sound like Discharge
Casey Jones, TUI, Killing The Dream, Verse, and all that era is where I started being introduced to hardcore and held up today imo. I got into the older stuff later on lol.
I started with Black Flag and Circle Jerks. Keith Morris is legendary.
Have Heart was the BIG hardcore band here in New England in their day.
Lucky to be a teenager back then in that scene. Lots of great bands touring regularly.
Listen to Hammer Bros
I’d love a series on this
Thanks for the recommendations
For 90's Hardcore, 100% Arkangel/Kickback
A perfect video to go next to my American Hardcore: A Tribal History book ☠️
Awesome video I actually saw madball had no idea who they were as soon as they started 100’s of guys in basketball shorts just showed up and went absolutely nuts
Awesome video Finn! 💯
Bloodlet - Entheogen is an amazing album (Victory Records). I still listen to it at least 3 or 4 times a year. Saw them live at the wonderful "Jaxx" in Springfield, VA during that album tour in the late 90s. I think Cause for Alarm opened.
Loved them!
Carry On - A Life Less Plagued is IMO the best thing Todd Jones ever did and an absolute must listen. Has completely held up.
Always start with hardcore punk
Thanks man i ask on your story for starter bands this vid helped alot
Great video man
But seriously that compilation, "Sunday Matinee (The Best Of NY Hardcore)" opened up a whole new world for me.
Have Heart were very popular in Australia or at least in Brisbane, where I'm from. When they came to Brisbane on their worldwide farewell tour in 2009, the venue (Princess Theatre - RIP) was the most packed i had ever seen it. One of the craziest show i ever went to. I'd go see them in a heart beat if they came back here.
I think it would be cool personally if when you're showing these hardcore songs, you can have a space where your just present while the music's playing. It kind of robs the listener of the feeling when you talk over the band's music.
Nah, I'm good! That would just be spotify playlist, you know? If that's what you want, then you shouldn't watch my videos.
I can smell the Madball guys breadth through the screen
You should do more starter kits. Thrash, Slam, Deathcore, etc, This was awesome!
This was a *chefs kiss*. You cited all my favs.
I hate being what about but Bad Brains really feels like it needs to be covered. Esp w Minor Threat included
This is like the 5th video in a week I've watched where someone mentioned Earth Crisis.... that's it. I'm downloading all of their stuff now. I remember hearing Snapcase when I was like 11 and thinking it was the coolest shit ever. More recently, I've gotten into Turnstile and I love their more upbeat take on the sound. Hatebreed's another one I need to check out more of because I met Jamey Jasta once at a show and he's probably the most humble musician I've ever met in my life. Super nice guy. Awesome video, man!
those snapcase snares are pretty unique
You definitely don’t need every earth crisis record
@@rlg42 Lol it was a slight exaggeration. Although I do usually like to check out a band's entire catalog at least once when I'm getting into them. What would you say are their best albums/EPs, in your opinion?
@@subparnaturedocumentary Progression Through Unlearning is indeed a fantastic album 👍
Growing up in the 90s, I already knew the Metallica/Nirvana/Korn mainstream side of rock. My friends introduced me to Minor Threat and then Fugazi and it opened up a whole new world of music (that would eventually include other bands like Earth Crisis, ATDI, Thursday, etc.).
When it comes to my passion for hardcore it was determined since being born with a name with the initials HC. My favorite bands are Agnostic Front, Madball, Terror, Hatebreed, Cro-Mags, H2O, BillyBio and Lionheart.
Very nice Harry Carson
For me the 1st 4 on your list are on mine aswell and I do like Cro Mags but not that much so I'd say Agnostic Front, Madball, Terror, Hatebreed, Judge, Earth Crisis, Black Flag, Minor Threat and Bad Brains. I like bands who either have intense sounds, intense lyrics or both.
Cro-Mags is the most badass Hardcore band. They are so fucking hard
IMO 3 greatest early HC albums are Bad Brains debut, Minor Threat 2 EP's on 1 LP and Jerry's Kids Is This My World? Good vid, mate.
This video was so much fun. Maybe part 2?
Been going to hardcore shows since 99’ and Bane shows are my favorite.
Finn! When you talk about hc it always makes my day
Became a fan of hardcore punk literally 3 weeks ago. Did my research and bought like 10 cd's lol like Bad Brains, DRI, circle jerks, Suicidal tendencies, minor, mdc, but my favorite album so far is 7 seconds alt hardcore compilation. So good. I really enjoy teen idles, uniform choice, gang green, and wasted youth, this is Boston not LA and dischord comps. This is all coming from a Huge techno/House, hip hop, metal guy lol Love the speed and musical talent of the genre, with the raw! Would love some more recommendations
Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Bad Brains, Cro-Mags, Agnostic Front, DxRxIx & Suicidal Tendencies (salute for mentioning Discharge) is the starter kit
Just saw terror at a smaller venue just a few weeks ago. Stage dived and it was awesome. (I fell on my back, I’m fine).
Great breakdown. These are the kind of videos I joined the channel for.
Definitely a newer hardcore fan. Hatebreed and Knocked Loose is what got me into hardcore.
If you like the more metallic hardcore stuff then you should listen to beatdown and crossover thrash 👌🏼 the bands Speed and Mindforce are killing it when it comes to those genres respectively
Personally got into hardcore with blood for blood madball state of conviction, and skarhead 90s tough guy hardcore is a good starting place
That’s where I started. Agnostic Front, Sheer Terror, Madball, Minor Threat, Earth Crisis, Crisis, Bad Brains, Judge, Gorilla Biscuits, converge, etc… I could go on, especially with the cross over. Discharge is a good place to start, they cover all it all!
@@brasschuckles3138 that is a super dope start. Love all of those bands.
i saw terror in a very small german club a few weeks ago (the room is like 6mx15m big) and it was crazy. the hardest moshpit i was in
Now I understand the kids I knew when I was 16 and into Thrash metal who looked like they liked heavier music than me, had face tattoos but actually just liked punk. Had no idea there was this whole sub genre and sub culture.
It's funny how the general public thinks hardcore died after minor threat and BF broke up. Bridge Nine and HH were such a big deal up here in New England in the late 2000's. Very glad that Boston hardcore is still a huge part of people's lives
I find it hilarious, and fitting as it contextualizes your channel's overall take on hardcore, that you hadn't included Bad Brains.
Can’t handle the vocals
Really cool video. You mentioned bands that i love and listen almost everyday. Just want to leave 3 nice Portuguese Hardcore bands... Devil In Me, For The Glory, and Reality Slap, search them and enjoy. Great respect from Portugal...
First show I ever went to was Sick of it All and Integrity at the Safari Room in DC.
i started out only listening to old stuff (minor threat, dead kennedys, black flag) and then jumped straight into more modern stuff a few years back (turnstile, incendiary, gulch.) only recently started listening to stuff from the 90s and 00s this shot rules
Thank you Finn for saving me from a severe butt kicking everytime I wear my knocked loose shirt
Ha I thought u were gonna do Biscuits start today.
U are so on point with everything.
you can tell by my name where im going with this but you are missing out on Have Heart finn. the pinnacle of positive and uplifting heavy music imo
You're right about have hearts reunion boost of popularity. They had 300 people at the Atlanta date of the farewell tour, and 10 thousand at the reunion!