He did not address the fact that in order to return to 5% growth, SA needs an additional 2000 megawatts of energy infrastructure expansion at a minimum.
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Interesting to watch this now in 2021 after our economy has been completely decimated by the lockdown - so much for there being any growth now, well done ANC.
Inadequate/low quality of education create unemploment, meaning there are less people with skills to be employed or to start small business which will result to poverty that lead to crime because of inequality. so the first thing we must look at is EDUCATION, we need more skilled population to encourage SME and get more young people to get involved in programs like FARMING to create employment to have food security and export some of the crops.
KC Makgatho finally a comment worth reading in this toxic comments section. Our biggest issue is certainly education. 33% to pass and still having kids failing is no pretty picture
Given the current demographics, spiraling educational system results and HIV statistics, there is only one possible future for S. Africa. Expect white flight on a country wide level.
+Mountain MAN To say they stole it is an outright lie. Actual history shows that the Boers bought the land from the African Kings and the price they paid. There are documents and titles in a museum.
Which company would invest in a country where the government can just up and take anything they want? That is a huge risk to investors. Not only are they going to starve to death ,but their country's economy will collapse. South Africa has doomed themselves.
This was produced 5 years ago - so what does your picture look like now? I would think rather different & unfortunately a lot worse under the ANC - I won't bother to even mention possible EFF rule. A forecast gone horribly wrong!
November, 2020. Glad I never trusted 'Institutes' or Mandela Magic, just the factual history of all African countries as a reliable model for SA's future.
Best case is South Africa adopts a policy of education for the majority of South Africans. Implementation will be difficult with schools and colleges being burnt down and the Anc and Eff agenda of whites are to blame. Cyril Ramaphosa will try to get the land redistribution without compensation bill through. Mugabe is gone but has he been replaced by a new face further south? Land reform will only work if the land is properly managed. A lot has happened since this Tedx talk.
Looking at this again today reminds me that options can disappeared just as quickly. Talking about change changes very little but by doing change changes everything. Go figure.
So, this man is discussing how much socialism South Africa should have. He is missing the point. Socialism is no the solution. It is the problem.' Regards, Geoff. Reeks
That last statement about a constituent system is utter hogwash. The only reason that South Africa is not in the same check mate situation as Zimbabwe, is precisely because we have a proportional system, rather than a constituent system. Also, the proportional system encourages a multi party system, with a variety of voices being heard, while the constituent system entrenches two parties that becomes unchallengable. There is no gerrymandering in a proportional system. And the argument that you can hold your local MP accountable is hogwash. When you look at voting patterns in the mixed local government system, most people vote for the party, not the candidate. You could be the best DA candidate in the entire party: If you them move to another party, the people will vote for your replacement. The constituent system can only truly be democratic when the local MPs is chosen by the local population, free of any party loyalties.
Yep, this is essentially a scam. SA is a disaster and it will be for the foreseeable future. It's probably going to get worse... Bafana Bafana is a pipe dream, let alone this guy's dreams.
I recommend you watch Frans Cronje 2015 presentation at the Cato Institute instead - South Africa: The Next 10 Years www.cato.org/multimedia/events/south-africa-next-ten-years
October 2018 and we are worse than the worst forecast that was presented in this talk. A sinking ship with too many holes and water in board to save it. Sorry but if you can get out.
Here in 2018 they just passed a law to take farming land from white people, for being white. Poverty is on the rise still and things are worse than ever. RIP AFRICA
Ai ai ai! En nou 2018 hoop ek hy het nog soveel selfvertroue oor wat hy se!! Hoop maar sy ogies is nou oop! Hierdie is NIE n ekonomiese reus nie en die “government en EFF” is nie die maatjies wat hy gedink het nie! Ai ai ai!!!
History always repeats itself. Judgment Day has arrived for South Africa, they have doomed themselves. It's like the old saying goes, never bite the hand that feeds you because what comes around goes around and Karma discriminates on no one.
Why not start an independent new money and call it something else. Print a lot of a new named money system independent from international banks and interest, change the mindset of the majority of people to be willing to work. Government can't give people jobs, the people should change their mindset towards work. Inequality is a mindset in the majority people that needs to be looked at and carefully addressed. My mindset and perception is what changes my life. Change starts within. People need to realize why work exists. Firstly for food, secondly housing, thirdly to have a good life and to enjoy your life. You can't start with the last, start with the necessities. If you don't know why you are working for money, then what is the point of working at all?
I find it sad that when a great soul like Nelson Mandela comes into change a nation....you have successors who mess everything up again. The good thing is that there is always hope that another wise leader will come in to fix the mess of Zuma & Ramaphosa.
Today is the 25th October 2017, Hillcrest, Durban, Kwazulu Natal, South Africa, Africa, Southern Hemisphere, planet hearth, Mandela is dead, Zuma's work being done, your cristal ball is fake and we are done here...
eduardo landolt Today is the 8th March 2018, Germiston, Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa, Africa, Southern Hemisphere, Planet *Earth* , Zuma has Resigned, Ramaposa is currently fixing all of Zuma's mistakes, you are to quick to a conclusion and we are done here...
@@Azrael-me1tm" Ramaphosa is fixing all Zuma's mistakes" He doesn't even know what "mistakes" Zuma has made, never mind fixing them. The Zondo Commission has cost R 700 million so far investigating "State Capture" - Zuma's mistakes you call it- and nobody has been prosecuted yet. Nor is it looking likely anyone will be prosecuted because they are all connected to the ruling party. No fixing being done - yet.
@@Azrael-me1tm Zuma is being prosecuted now (2020) for things he broke before he became President (weapons transaction circa late '90's). He (Zuma) will probably be dead by the time his appeal against conviction is heard. So no, nothing is being fixed. Not yet !!!
Agree with you commander, closing our borders is key - we're sitting with 2 mil illegals in S.A. no wonder crime is high, jobs are few. Appointing Prince Mashele as President will also help!
Elizna Algera blacks have no land and are poor. Thats the real problem. Sooo buddy fix that before they change the constitution and take all the land. If you are part of SA why would u want 46 million people having no land or homes. Well a country is a body and if most of the cells in the body are sick the whole thing dies. So because whites dodged reperations, land and other privilages now you will suffer.
In 2017 even worse with state capture, the Zuptas & Guptas involvement with international crime syndicates. The smelly snake ball is slowly starting to unravel & it does not look good. Personally I feel that Jakkie Cilliers has all the best qualities inherent in many Afrikaners, a frank optimistic honesty in assessment & approach to state involvement & economic growth being one of them . In the cess climate we are living in that honest approach is his downfall . He has not calculated the primitive sly brain at work into his positive equations .My opinion.
yes and this is the more reason the stock market is the best form to make your investment with the steady increase of bitcoin everyday. One can become financially free within the next couple of months
Wonder what the Covid saga has caused the forecasters to rethink their strategies of forecasting which are not much different from astrology in hindsight.
What an unbelieveable load of crap...I think South Africa is in -1 growth rate right now not even to mention ESCOM is failing and the water is slowly becoming undrinkable from sewage...he sounds professional however which is why people listened.
The continent still has good resources to sustain its people - it has a large population of young people and mineral resources, much of which are yet to be discovered. With global racism and nationalism on the rise, the West will help us speed up inter African trade and reduce reliance on the West. When immigrants from developing countries no longer have a need or desire to move to Europe or the USA, a fast aging West will find itself needing workers they cannot produce in their own countries and I'm curious as to how that will affect their economies. We just need to keep our resource scout of the greedy hands of Western and Chinese exploiters and the process will take off. Progress is inevitable. I am sorry so many white people have this bitterness and anger in their hearts. At the same time, I believe non African immigrants will replace them from Europe and Asia. Development in Africa does not have to depend on the West or on white people. Economies are not dependent on or based on race or nationalities. Vestiges of Colonialism will eventually fade from our consciousness and new generations born into a tech heavy world will not harbor the same insecurities we currently have. It may take a decade or two or more but Africas progress is inevitable. South Africa will keep improving its infrastructure even if it's with Chinese help but it will get to where the quality of life for Africans will be enough to bring a dynamism and vibrancy that satisfies its people. We dont need to measure wealth by western standards. Even if in SA a lot more people are living a lot better than during Apartheid. I live in the USA but go home to SA often enough to see for myself as evidenced by the quality of life family members have moved up to. My American wife and children are definitely impressed and their connections with their cousins in SA gets them excited about the future. They are attending universities and preparing to be engineers, marine biologists and entrepreneurs. Many of my nephews and nieces where born after Apartheid and have no personal experience living under those laws- they do not carry the baggage that goes with that past. Yebo. Siyeza. Nizobona. South Africas strategic geopolitical position is a huge asset. Yeah! Inspite of the ANC stinking farts. A nation ultimately is greater than any individual or political party. Humans are born and die, nations live on a lot longer than we do.
this talk was in 2013-things have become a nightmare in the last 4 years. Good luck South africa
😢💔
I'm here in 2020...oh Boi oh boi
So much for Mandela Magic. Been a rough 4 years since this video came out.
He did not address the fact that in order to return to 5% growth, SA needs an additional 2000 megawatts of energy infrastructure expansion at a minimum.
don't worry im sure some kang in zimbabwe can build you another nuclear reactor
@@ginomanshit2365 yup I'm sure. With a grass roof and everything. Man I'm glad Africans invented everything 😂
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Interesting to watch this now in 2021 after our economy has been completely decimated by the lockdown - so much for there being any growth now, well done ANC.
I'm from Metropolitan Detroit. I've already seen your future.
How silly one feels now, never thought it would get so much worse so quickly... right?
Is this guy joking? He is living in a dream world!
I like that we vote for what we want not the anc
Inadequate/low quality of education create unemploment, meaning there are less people with skills to be employed or to start small business which will result to poverty that lead to crime because of inequality. so the first thing we must look at is EDUCATION, we need more skilled population to encourage SME and get more young people to get involved in programs like FARMING to create employment to have food security and export some of the crops.
KC Makgatho finally a comment worth reading in this toxic comments section. Our biggest issue is certainly education. 33% to pass and still having kids failing is no pretty picture
KC Makgatho Good luck with that.
@ Can you do farming without skills?
Thank you Mr Cilliers.
interrwsting watching this video in march 2016, with zuma fucking up big time in dec 2015.
He hasn't heard about the Guptas
Now the Oppenheimers and Ruperts
I am so concerned, look what has happened in just over 5 years.....scary and sad sad sad.
Whatever Jakkie……………...….Mandela Magic is exactly whats going on in SA today.
Mandela was a sucker for whites not Africans he sold the Country
Given the current demographics, spiraling educational system results and HIV statistics, there is only one possible future for S. Africa. Expect white flight on a country wide level.
RideOrHike i dont think south africa really needs to be loved by European countries...... I not all about Europe
+Mountain MAN To say they stole it is an outright lie. Actual history shows that the Boers bought the land from the African Kings and the price they paid. There are documents and titles in a museum.
Mountain MAN LOL I thought it was just my opinion ? Do your own research .
Mountain MAN The documents exist whether you believe it or not doesn't matter . But it does make people like you look foolish .
***** Having a nice little conversation with the voices in your head ?
Investors? Please don't invest. Take your money and run
Which company would invest in a country where the government can just up and take anything they want? That is a huge risk to investors. Not only are they going to starve to death ,but their country's economy will collapse. South Africa has doomed themselves.
This was produced 5 years ago - so what does your picture look like now? I would think rather different & unfortunately a lot worse under the ANC - I won't bother to even mention possible EFF rule. A forecast gone horribly wrong!
November, 2020. Glad I never trusted 'Institutes' or Mandela Magic, just the factual history of all African countries as a reliable model for SA's future.
Lol what else. Lol at idiots. And just north is Rhodesia - Zimbabwe. To build things you need high IQ.
Wonder what Mr Cilliers is predicting now?
Best case is South Africa adopts a policy of education for the majority of South Africans. Implementation will be difficult with schools and colleges being burnt down and the Anc and Eff agenda of whites are to blame. Cyril Ramaphosa will try to get the land redistribution without compensation bill through. Mugabe is gone but has he been replaced by a new face further south? Land reform will only work if the land is properly managed. A lot has happened since this Tedx talk.
Looking at this again today reminds me that options can disappeared just as quickly. Talking about change changes very little but by doing change changes everything. Go figure.
So, this man is discussing how much socialism South Africa should have. He is missing the point. Socialism is no the solution. It is the problem.'
Regards,
Geoff. Reeks
Rubbish
Regards
I think we're past the discussion part....
That last statement about a constituent system is utter hogwash. The only reason that South Africa is not in the same check mate situation as Zimbabwe, is precisely because we have a proportional system, rather than a constituent system. Also, the proportional system encourages a multi party system, with a variety of voices being heard, while the constituent system entrenches two parties that becomes unchallengable. There is no gerrymandering in a proportional system. And the argument that you can hold your local MP accountable is hogwash. When you look at voting patterns in the mixed local government system, most people vote for the party, not the candidate. You could be the best DA candidate in the entire party: If you them move to another party, the people will vote for your replacement. The constituent system can only truly be democratic when the local MPs is chosen by the local population, free of any party loyalties.
At a federal level, it would make sense. Other than that I can only see the country breaking up.
this is simply to attract investors
Yep, this is essentially a scam. SA is a disaster and it will be for the foreseeable future. It's probably going to get worse... Bafana Bafana is a pipe dream, let alone this guy's dreams.
I knew he was JOKING when he said Mandela Magic. LMAO. The Rainbow 🌈 Nation is a farce.
I recommend you watch Frans Cronje 2015 presentation at the Cato Institute instead - South Africa: The Next 10 Years www.cato.org/multimedia/events/south-africa-next-ten-years
October 2018 and we are worse than the worst forecast that was presented in this talk.
A sinking ship with too many holes and water in board to save it.
Sorry but if you can get out.
Man you are Zimbabwe two. Just wrap and leave.
In 2022 this sounds weird. The ANC is totally unresponsive and some in it are attacking the judiciary.
Here in 2018 they just passed a law to take farming land from white people, for being white. Poverty is on the rise still and things are worse than ever. RIP AFRICA
get rid of zuma and his gang .
Very interesting and all, but does he know da wey?
Jan Ruud Schutrups my Brodda. He does not kno de wey.
Ai ai ai! En nou 2018 hoop ek hy het nog soveel selfvertroue oor wat hy se!! Hoop maar sy ogies is nou oop! Hierdie is NIE n ekonomiese reus nie en die “government en EFF” is nie die maatjies wat hy gedink het nie! Ai ai ai!!!
Next he'll be expressing his schadenfreude at having such brilliant high quality ministers with the utmost integrity, like Zuma, or Ace Magashula
History always repeats itself. Judgment Day has arrived for South Africa, they have doomed themselves. It's like the old saying goes, never bite the hand that feeds you because what comes around goes around and Karma discriminates on no one.
I want to move to South Africa to be a farm hand
That's...out the box I'm not even gonna lie to you bro😂😂😂
I guess you have a death wish
The EFF in parliament is good news 😅😅😅😅😅
Why not start an independent new money and call it something else. Print a lot of a new named money system independent from international banks and interest, change the mindset of the majority of people to be willing to work. Government can't give people jobs, the people should change their mindset towards work. Inequality is a mindset in the majority people that needs to be looked at and carefully addressed. My mindset and perception is what changes my life. Change starts within. People need to realize why work exists. Firstly for food, secondly housing, thirdly to have a good life and to enjoy your life. You can't start with the last, start with the necessities. If you don't know why you are working for money, then what is the point of working at all?
In 2018 a nation divided
This aged badly
This comment section is the reason we can't get along
We can if we play the ball and not the man. Keep it factual. Opinions are the glue fouling up this machine.
south africa .will be chicago soon .
Chicago is kindergarten as compared to south Africa
SA should take chicago as a model in its current state
@@h.m.5724 What are you talking about?🤡 I don't see any kids with machine guns over here
I find it sad that when a great soul like Nelson Mandela comes into change a nation....you have successors who mess everything up again. The good thing is that there is always hope that another wise leader will come in to fix the mess of Zuma & Ramaphosa.
Today is the 25th October 2017, Hillcrest, Durban, Kwazulu Natal, South Africa, Africa, Southern Hemisphere, planet hearth, Mandela is dead, Zuma's work being done, your cristal ball is fake and we are done here...
eduardo landolt Today is the 8th March 2018, Germiston, Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa, Africa, Southern Hemisphere, Planet *Earth* , Zuma has Resigned, Ramaposa is currently fixing all of Zuma's mistakes, you are to quick to a conclusion and we are done here...
fixing the problems by doing what exactly ?
@@Azrael-me1tm" Ramaphosa is fixing all Zuma's mistakes" He doesn't even know what "mistakes" Zuma has made, never mind fixing them. The Zondo Commission has cost R 700 million so far investigating "State Capture" - Zuma's mistakes you call it- and nobody has been prosecuted yet. Nor is it looking likely anyone will be prosecuted because they are all connected to the ruling party. No fixing being done - yet.
@@Azrael-me1tm Zuma is being prosecuted now (2020) for things he broke before he became President (weapons transaction circa late '90's). He (Zuma) will probably be dead by the time his appeal against conviction is heard. So no, nothing is being fixed. Not yet !!!
Agree with you commander, closing our borders is key - we're sitting with 2 mil illegals in S.A. no wonder crime is high, jobs are few. Appointing Prince Mashele as President will also help!
Elizna Algera blacks have no land and are poor. Thats the real problem. Sooo buddy fix that before they change the constitution and take all the land.
If you are part of SA why would u want 46 million people having no land or homes.
Well a country is a body and if most of the cells in the body are sick the whole thing dies.
So because whites dodged reperations, land and other privilages now you will suffer.
DA MUST DO THIS
Camilo Nxele thank you
In 2017 even worse with state capture, the Zuptas & Guptas involvement with international crime syndicates. The smelly snake ball is slowly starting to unravel & it does not look good. Personally I feel that Jakkie Cilliers has all the best qualities inherent in many Afrikaners, a frank optimistic honesty in assessment & approach to state involvement & economic growth being one of them . In the cess climate we are living in that honest approach is his downfall . He has not calculated the primitive sly brain at work into his positive equations .My opinion.
It is impossible to give neutral analysis of political or economic landscape. Somehow you will show signs of baisness.
God save the British Queen not the Dutch one.
we have a king now :P
😂 this didn't age well. Last I heard this guy was working at McDonald's.
He did not take into account the civil war scenario!
Fracking did not happen 2018 now!
I bet this guy was also a Tesla short seller.
that was 2014, 2017 is another story!!!!!
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To much negativity in the comment section
EUROPE IS THE BLAME THERE. LEAVE AFRICA ALONE
Ja, go tell that to the millions of African refugees in Europe. If you want to be communist slaves for Russia and China, go to back to West Africa.
Wonder what the Covid saga has caused the forecasters to rethink their strategies of forecasting which are not much different from astrology in hindsight.
Karma is chasing those who brutally came to South Africa
I agree the Buntu will suffer badly for invading South Africa.
@@jw841 Buntu?🤡🥱
This is outdated.
What an unbelieveable load of crap...I think South Africa is in -1 growth rate right now not even to mention ESCOM is failing and the water is slowly becoming undrinkable from sewage...he sounds professional however which is why people listened.
It is not true, you must listen to an african entrepreneur and listen to get a positive perspective" tony "
The continent still has good resources to sustain its people - it has a large population of young people and mineral resources, much of which are yet to be discovered. With global racism and nationalism on the rise, the West will help us speed up inter African trade and reduce reliance on the West. When immigrants from developing countries no longer have a need or desire to move to Europe or the USA, a fast aging West will find itself needing workers they cannot produce in their own countries and I'm curious as to how that will affect their economies. We just need to keep our resource scout of the greedy hands of Western and Chinese exploiters and the process will take off. Progress is inevitable. I am sorry so many white people have this bitterness and anger in their hearts. At the same time, I believe non African immigrants will replace them from Europe and Asia. Development in Africa does not have to depend on the West or on white people. Economies are not dependent on or based on race or nationalities. Vestiges of Colonialism will eventually fade from our consciousness and new generations born into a tech heavy world will not harbor the same insecurities we currently have. It may take a decade or two or more but Africas progress is inevitable. South Africa will keep improving its infrastructure even if it's with Chinese help but it will get to where the quality of life for Africans will be enough to bring a dynamism and vibrancy that satisfies its people. We dont need to measure wealth by western standards. Even if in SA a lot more people are living a lot better than during Apartheid. I live in the USA but go home to SA often enough to see for myself as evidenced by the quality of life family members have moved up to. My American wife and children are definitely impressed and their connections with their cousins in SA gets them excited about the future. They are attending universities and preparing to be engineers, marine biologists and entrepreneurs. Many of my nephews and nieces where born after Apartheid and have no personal experience living under those laws- they do not carry the baggage that goes with that past. Yebo. Siyeza. Nizobona. South Africas strategic geopolitical position is a huge asset. Yeah! Inspite of the ANC stinking farts. A nation ultimately is greater than any individual or political party. Humans are born and die, nations live on a lot longer than we do.
@@lindsaydunn2869 I agree with most of your statements but am not sure if you are right. Which, i suppose, makes me wrong too!!
Mandela Magic really??? Give us our Land back then we can implement Mandela magic
Dream on