Hi Helmuth! Love your videos! Would you consider doing a test run of the Dacia Jogger Hybrid? It's the same engine as the clio e-tech I know, but totally different body and weight, so it could be really interesting. Best wishes 🙂
I think its a good result , especially for its price and the fact that it is a 7-seater... if u divide 4,6l , or even with full load, 7 person an around 5- 5,5l, its a very low cost to travel. plus the lpg version of the same powertrain is probably way more enviroment-friendly.
You should come to make a fuel consumption test in Romania, especially in Bucharest. In this city, the fuel consumption is measured in litres/hour. Those values from your table does not match with the values obtained in many areas.
Even if the BC was 10% wrong the result would have been good. And research shows that BCs show too high consumption in over 70% of cases (according to ADAC, the worlds largest Automobilist-Club).
I see that you dont use a little more advanced methods as pulse&glide, engine on coasting (neutral) or for fun maybe even more extreme things as engine off coasting. Could you try something like that in one of your next videos?
I did coast quite a lot, although this is a real-life test and not a world-record attempt, so I try to show what is possible if driven "normally". Switching off the engine is rather dangerous, as some little helpers like power steering or -braking might not work then.
@@ecodriver1746 You did coast yes, but you used in gear coasting, which is perfect for driving down hills, it doesnt use any fuel, but it does slow down car more than neutral coasting, which uses a bit of fuel, but you travel further. Especially in combination with pulse&glide, also VW uses neutral coasting as a economy feature in their latest DSG. Another thing I do sometimes is to brake long before i come to red light to increase my chances (time) to be still moving when light changes to green. But I really hate traffic lights, I dont understand the advantages over just using roundabouts everywhere. But I have to admit, for a big car with petrol engine you achived impresive numbers, I doubt you could gain a lot with extreme hypermiling. Edit: Sorry, I watched video again and indeed you mention neutral coasting is sometimes usefull for maintaing speed. So you really try to use every sensible trick to lower consumption...
I decide what coast mode I use depending on what is needed. If it goes downhill and I need some braking then - of course - I keep the gear in, or if I see I will need to reduce the speed anyway. If the braking in the lowest possible gear is too strong, only then I decouple. It's not that one is better than the other, it depends on the circumstances and what you want to achieve.
Hey ecodriver, do you plan to do a video on the new Kia Sportage HEV? that is the car I've got on order and would love to hear your views and how much mpg you can get out of it 😎
Hi Aaren, I don't know yet whether I'll get this car, I'll put it on my list and let the dealer know. I depend on what they have available as show cars, as they need to be registered.
@@ecodriver1746 ah okay, thank you for taking the time to respond to me. Your videos are fantastic and get better and better everytime so I really hope you get the chance to test the new Kia Sportage so you can really push how efficient it is. Will keep an eye out and fingers crossed you can make a video soon! 😁
In the video I said circa, as this car had no official papers yet (temporary licence plate) and I took an average value from Wikepedia. As this is stated there with "1257 - 1327 kg", this was the 110 hp (there are two smaller engines plus a hybrid) and the best trim level, so I guess 1300 kg is a good guess, 1205 kg for this very car definitely too low.
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Interesting video as always Helmuth. Nice looking car and excellent value for money. Thank you for the scenic drives.
Thanks and you're welcome, much more scenic routes to come ;)
Hi Helmuth!
Love your videos!
Would you consider doing a test run of the Dacia Jogger Hybrid?
It's the same engine as the clio e-tech I know, but totally different body and weight, so it could be really interesting.
Best wishes 🙂
I think its a good result , especially for its price and the fact that it is a 7-seater... if u divide 4,6l , or even with full load, 7 person an around 5- 5,5l, its a very low cost to travel. plus the lpg version of the same powertrain is probably way more enviroment-friendly.
May well be. LPG is not very common around here.
@@ecodriver1746 not even here. unfortunately.
@10:41 When the Test Participant wishes that the Real-Life Consumption Test was performed in a lab environment! HAHAHAHA
Hahaha, yeah, it's just annoying how many stupid people out there are allowed to drive...
@@ecodriver1746 Adventure!
You should come to make a fuel consumption test in Romania, especially in Bucharest. In this city, the fuel consumption is measured in litres/hour. Those values from your table does not match with the values obtained in many areas.
They make sense in my area ;)
Buy electric and problem solved!
@@markmd9 an electric car is too expensive and it does make sens. That diference in price means thousands of litres and never will be amortised.
Hello, could it be that this good result is in part because of board computer error in calculating the consumption? Or is it accurate? Thanks
Even if the BC was 10% wrong the result would have been good. And research shows that BCs show too high consumption in over 70% of cases (according to ADAC, the worlds largest Automobilist-Club).
I see that you dont use a little more advanced methods as pulse&glide, engine on coasting (neutral) or for fun maybe even more extreme things as engine off coasting. Could you try something like that in one of your next videos?
I did coast quite a lot, although this is a real-life test and not a world-record attempt, so I try to show what is possible if driven "normally". Switching off the engine is rather dangerous, as some little helpers like power steering or -braking might not work then.
@@ecodriver1746 You did coast yes, but you used in gear coasting, which is perfect for driving down hills, it doesnt use any fuel, but it does slow down car more than neutral coasting, which uses a bit of fuel, but you travel further. Especially in combination with pulse&glide, also VW uses neutral coasting as a economy feature in their latest DSG.
Another thing I do sometimes is to brake long before i come to red light to increase my chances (time) to be still moving when light changes to green. But I really hate traffic lights, I dont understand the advantages over just using roundabouts everywhere.
But I have to admit, for a big car with petrol engine you achived impresive numbers, I doubt you could gain a lot with extreme hypermiling.
Edit: Sorry, I watched video again and indeed you mention neutral coasting is sometimes usefull for maintaing speed. So you really try to use every sensible trick to lower consumption...
I decide what coast mode I use depending on what is needed. If it goes downhill and I need some braking then - of course - I keep the gear in, or if I see I will need to reduce the speed anyway. If the braking in the lowest possible gear is too strong, only then I decouple. It's not that one is better than the other, it depends on the circumstances and what you want to achieve.
Hey ecodriver, do you plan to do a video on the new Kia Sportage HEV? that is the car I've got on order and would love to hear your views and how much mpg you can get out of it 😎
Hi Aaren, I don't know yet whether I'll get this car, I'll put it on my list and let the dealer know. I depend on what they have available as show cars, as they need to be registered.
@@ecodriver1746 ah okay, thank you for taking the time to respond to me. Your videos are fantastic and get better and better everytime so I really hope you get the chance to test the new Kia Sportage so you can really push how efficient it is. Will keep an eye out and fingers crossed you can make a video soon! 😁
Is there a way to see the entire spreadsheet with all the different cars?
Not yet, but I'm working on it.
Unladen weight is 1205KG, not 1300.
In the video I said circa, as this car had no official papers yet (temporary licence plate) and I took an average value from Wikepedia. As this is stated there with "1257 - 1327 kg", this was the 110 hp (there are two smaller engines plus a hybrid) and the best trim level, so I guess 1300 kg is a good guess, 1205 kg for this very car definitely too low.
What about stepway LPG?
Dunno. There are almost no LPG cars around here.
Can you test drive a dacia sandero stepway 1.0 tce auto?