Irresponsible parents. These parents haven’t owned up to their responsibility to train their kids. Biko, who is this government that is supposed to train your children? Are Government funds not from collected taxes? Very irresponsible. They keep calling Allah’s name? Why? Take responsibility for your actions. More fundamentally, why should you take money from the private sector to train children? These socialist ideas have led us to ruin. Many southern families are now having 2-4 children.
What are resources? I challenge you to tell me what these “resources” are? Taxes? Oil proceeds? Solid minerals? I would like the Government to review the payscale and benefits for the civil service and elected officials. Perhaps parents marry their daughters off so there is are less mouths to feed. These parents don’t take any pride in their children.
@Tom Der kinderen about Europea will suffer it tooi, there will no resources to steal in Africa. So it not only Africa that will suffer climate changes.
I'm against it because having a lot of people and on top of it young people is a wealth and a blessing. The issue is that the resources need to be managed better. Western countries would do anything to have our population and our youth.
its the SAME. 👉🏾Action is conscious. 𝐹𝑜𝓇 𝐸𝓍𝒶𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑒; Abrahamic faiths pollute the Earth & agrees with laws to do so. why? because Earth isnt the final destiny..the clouds are ☁ 🌥 🌤 ☁ . vs animist faith aka prior dominant belief system who kept the earth 🌍 🌎 🌏 pristine. 𝑀𝒶𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓃 𝒶𝓃𝒸𝒾𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝐸𝑔𝓎𝓅𝓉 𝒶𝓁𝓈𝑜 𝒻𝑜𝓁𝓁𝑜𝓌𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 "𝓌𝒶𝓎 𝑜𝒻 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒" Truth, Justice, Balance, Order, Compassion, Harmony, and Reciprocity Africa, Australia, Amazon, Nepal, Japan, Fiji; it echoed everywhere AND LAWS ARE MADE BY MAN's BELIEF SYSTEM 𝐹𝑜𝓇 𝐸𝓍𝒶𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑒 2; Abrahamic faiths💕, loves,💕,💕, to aid the-less-fortunate. Politicians in those country do not banned donation or voluntary work. Tax is the Law... except for you know who. no special law for Pregnant nuns 𝐹𝑜𝓇 𝐸𝓍𝒶𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑒 3 : atheist politicians and atheist soldiers arent trusted; because what principle drives them? 👉🏾the Action wiil come from his/her conscious.
cinnamonstar808 If humanity can master space exploration and colonization. Population explosion could not be an issue anymore as there are abundance of resources and vast space in our solar system and nearby star systems. Space is really the final frontier to all mankind
Is why you need NO religion at all.. religion only creates social problems (poverty) and war - but you won't so look forward to a terrible future, you all earned it..
@J Audrey wrong.. if this was the case, please explain why there are so many wars in Africa, between Christianity and Islam.. why there is so much friction in all countries between Christianity and Islam... also why the poorest and most desperate people in the World, are the ones who are the most religious.. so where is your evidence... ??? But then religion is the invention of humans... so in that respect those humans who cannot see the nonsense religion is, are humans with problems.. are you one of them ?
@J Audrey then you might like to think, why is it that people in the most religious countries are desperate to get out to more non religious countries where they cause turmoil in those countries, which is why there is a rising tide of resentment against these religious nutters.. and then I could ask, since you think you know so much, do you have the slightest idea of the history of religion and mythology.. I can't say I am holding my breath as the normal hypocritical aspect of people like you, is that you throw a few words out and then run, as you are incapable of debating your position.. and I thought I would put this in now, as I can't be bothered to waste my time posting again when you fail to make an intelligent response.. but I am very happy to be proved wrong..
@@Flex2212 Not really what about the arabian gulf where they are flourishing economically countries like saudi arabia and the UAE are doing fine despite being one of the most religious countries in the world
@@an_1232 Gulf states are flourishing "economically" because of the oil resources they can exploit. They are just starting to build an economy around that for the time after that. Their situation is in no way comparable.
Common sense beats religion. Look at your children and be the judge. As a Nigerian it isnt ok to be born to beg for food.. family planning is not "evil", it offends no one. Not even God. It is ignorance even among the educated because of religion and cultural norms to feel its otherwise
Nigerians need to change their mindsets immediately,this issue has reached critical levels and it's mind boggling to me that inspite of the glaring challenges over population will bring about, people still lay so much emphasis on child bearing,it doesn't cease to amaze me that people can't on their own look at the situation and decide to have one or two children at the most for the time being until the population issue is in check.We need an intervention and we need it now,our beliefs are creating situations that are not sustainable, keep culture and religious beliefs aside and become practical because having kids you can't take care of and who will just be frustrated in so many different ways when they grow up is ridiculous.
You don’t know northern Nigeria. It is the basement of hard core Islamic fanatics. The Emir of Kano who is highly educated tried to educate them to embrace education and forward-thinking values but they ganged up against him. They created a lot of problems for him and the man was thus silenced. As things are today, Kano State government still routinely organizes mass wedding - an even that brings many women together en-mass for men to shop, compare and buy. Think about that. That’s why those of us in the south want a secession from the north. We don’t share the same values!
This is the most intelligent conversation I have ever heard from African people on TH-cam. Good job guys.I'm Nigerian, based in the United states and I'm indeed very impressed.
And it happens to be in a area dominated by Islam. Leave little girls alone, and let education alone as well. Learning the Quran will not create architects, engineers, doctors etc..
They must give the Islam ideology back to the racist Morrocan and Arab slave traders who introduced this nonsense to West Africa when they subjugated Blacks and enforced their imperialistic-colonialist ideas upon the people!
thanks for this comment, i am Nigerian , and i will tell you that this problem is mainly in the north where the politicians keeps them the people uneducated, so as to be manipulated and be controlled, the north rely on this for electoral and revenue sharing purposes, that is why you hear them talk about government and blame the government for problems they caused themselves, this kind of situation can not be found in the south.
Adezi Chris ..No , don’t blame religion.Africans generally have always give birth to lot of children because in the past the more children you have ,you are likely to do better in farming and defending your Territory. This culture has been passed over to generations.Religion only play a very small role because it does not apply to everyone ..Teenage child birth ,Polygamy,lack of sex education too.There just many factors to these .One can’t blackmail religion for African problems
Times have change to keep having lots of children. Some aspects of religion and culture is an hindrance to development, so Adezi, you are so right: re: see what religion has done to my people.
"The truth is, There is no law when it comes to child marry in (Kano) the northern Nigeria, When girls speak they are silence with islamic Sharia laws."
@Lucas. What an ignorant, tribalistic bigot. This coming from guys, who can't mention the five pillars of Islam, are now authorities on Shari'a law. Conflating Sharia law & local traditions nothing new & nothing exclusive to the North.
This is not Islam or islamic law it is culture. Islamic law gives women and girls the right to chose who, when or if they want to marry and encourages education it allows women to speak up it is just culture mixed with religion that shuts them up they are confused
@@Flex2212Nowadays because there is no single leadership for muslims people have moved away from their roots and have mixed culture with religion and don’t the difference. Islam allows women to speak out and gives them the right to decline and chose to marry when ever they want. Forced Marriage is not allowed and if islam was practiced properly they wouldn’t have this problem as true shariah gives the right for Girls to decline marriage and demand education, in many arab countries most people in universities are women and they tend to marry at later ages. We need legislation in Nigeria the imam is ignorant we need. Islam is fully compatible with family planing and even contraception and a requirement for having a family is that you must be able to afford a family and children if you can’t, you cant get married.
If you put a border fence around then they will figure it out themselves when it gets to cramped. It is probably the easiest way than to try to convince them now.
If you think only the north is the problem, you are mistaken. There are a lot of bastard children roaming everywhere in Nigeria, majority who become area boys, kidnappers, bandits etc.
Just want to commend the journalist. She is smart and clever. As for the Imam, Religion must be done with common sense. If the government resources are not yet there, use common sense to limit the number of children you have in order to reduce suffering and death of women and children.
If govwrnment gwts involvwd with popularion control it will be the women who war is waged against and female fetuses that will fill abortion bins. Just like what happened millions in China. Know the implicatioms and consequences before choosimg to mimic what the Chinese themselves have now reversed policy on.
The Iman sounds ridiculous, he said "Allah will determine how many children you should have"....Islam and Christianity has ruined the minds of our people globally.
@@bigapple9610 Should be "killed"? Are you promoting genocide of religious people? I don't agree with the Imans assessment, but I also don't want him to be "killed". People will naturally distance themselves from fundamentalist and bigot interpretations of religion once given a proper education that allows them to understand natural science and rational decision making. No need to act like a savage and "kill" anyone!
@alfonso m. I take it that your problem is about belief in God. If it's about population boom, that's global issue. China & India are way ahead of Africa on that. Take your atheist BS someplace & leave Christians & Muslims practice their faith, 'cos I don't see anyone shoving their faith down your throat.
Besides, you guys are blinded by your ignorance or bigotry or both. The Imam, summed up everything in one sentence, "mismanagement of resources in Nigeria". Case closed. Fun fact, America, has the land & means to feed the entire global population, yep, the rest is politics. And I bet West Africa, has the land & developing means to feed the entire African continent.
Amazing debate, you can feel the passion of these people for a better Northern Nigeria. We need more outspoken and action-driven individuals across the nation.
@@Dhuxul9 It's not. There's no need for uneducated wealfare customers in continent that is barely standing up. Europe will collapse and then Nobody gets anything. In fact Europe will collapse in few years. Propably before 2030.
Thanks for this panel Edith. I enjoyed hearing what the women, the ones actually giving birth, had to say. Also, if you can’t afford to feed, house, educate, clothe, and give medical care to one child and mother, what makes you think having more is a good idea???
@Tracchofyre I think the ones who have stayed in Europe for a few years now should have learned enough about how more desirable societies function, to go back to their homeland and improve it to the standard they like.
I am pro family planning. I have a big issue with Africans having a mindset of giving birth to children for the government to train (That is so 1960). Like one of the contributors said, we should start taking responsibility for the education of our children as well as the living condition of our families. Taking responsibility will help them to live above religious sentiments and do what needs to be done. Also, It’s high time the society stopped limiting the significance of wives to just pleasing their husbands and birthing children even to their own detriment . The dreams of a woman are still valid even in marriage ; FYI taking care of children is a full time job and a whole lot will have to be sacrificed to take care of many children.
bukkie banks ...in as much as we support family planning....I don’t know where you got the information that Nigerians give birth for govt to train ? Have you ever see or heard of a child train by govt?
The secularization of policy amongst the values of different groups of people in Nigeria will be a challenge. Would it even be possible to allow women who don’t agree with their male counterparts to find new living situations? How much protection should separate states have to conduct their operations whilst receiving funds from the government. A new standard for Nigeria?
Firstly, very interesting, secondly, the young woman who asked the questions, a very smart woman, I ask myself and many others this question, why is there so much poverty in Africa? Africa is the most resource-rich continent in the world, but the people are the poorest in the world. I am a father myself. I raised 5 children, part of the time I was a single father, my children were close to my heart, I only went to 4th grade, if a father can't earn enough money to support his family, he shouldn't force his wife to have children if the child is not getting enough to eat and is malnourished, their brain cannot develop properly and the child is unlikely to do well in school. The child cannot become a businessman, then the situation in the country will never get better.
@oceej0 . No sir, nobody in Hausa land said so. This expose made that error. Lagos is not only the most populous in Naija but one of the world's mega cities. Sadly, one of the worst.
I love this debate it's really put a sauce in my soul how wish we can have this information constantly get to my peoples all around Nigeria 🇳🇬 🇳🇬 it is going to give us the quality view of what it take to move our country forward God bless Nigeria 🇳🇬
The government in Nigeria should just put laws to stop 🛑 these child marriages and safeguard from these child abuse. Any men who marry children must be arrested. I applaud these women who are speaking up on the panel.
I am so worried about the population explosion. I actually feel ashamed to be human sometimes. Forget corona, WE are the virus. This video gives me a shred of hope for us though. It seems more and more Africans are growing concerned with the population problem.
Yes Neil, the person who understand what human as species have done to our home the earth, that person feels ashamed, and that drives us to be better and nurture better future as well.
2035-2040 nigeria supras indonesia in population nigeria 5.25 and indonesia 2.27 because indonesia industrial 4.0, indonesia not accepting refugees, american accepting refugees
Some nigerians stay complaining about the government and not doing what they can do for themselves. The population is growing too fast, when the government refused to give stable electricity, Nigerians bought their own private generators for their homes and businesses. When the government refused to provide clean water, Nigerians got their own boreholes. When the quality of education in public school started depleting, Nigerians started sending their children to private schools. Please help yourself and don't wait for this nonsense government
So you want to use generator and bore hole till eternity. You like the noise/environmental pollution? Plus it's expensive and killing off SMEs since expenses cut well into profit margins. Also bore holes can deplete underground basin water. The government needs to take and deliver on its responsibilities to its people
The government in Nigeria is literally non existent. So give birth to children you can take care of. Nigerians have to solve their own problems by themselves because of this. Nobody likes noise pollution but the alternative is not having electricity for large amounts of hours even after paying electricity bill. This will cause unproductivity and a lot of businesses depend on electricity to survive.
The reason the northern part of Nigeria is able to sustain this population boom without check and balance " is because they are getting free lunch from the south" and they are very comfortable with it.
Thank you so much for this video... letting us know people's ideas on these topics brings conversations that will over time help us make a neutral decision.👏
More power for the woman to take control of their future, they should not be treated as a man property but as a individual with equal mental capacity as a man.
Women themselves do not want an equal. They are biologically wired to choose partners based on security and would always be looking to monkey branch and trade up.
@@joegee6434 Lagos has a considerable population replacement rate compared to northern Nigeria. If the country was to divide, the north will become landlocked and poverty will be rampant. The north holds the highest poverty rate in Nigeria at 86 percent of Nigeria poverty population. I am fine with 3. 😂
Religion has really affected Africa and Nigeria in particular in a negative way that we can't use our brains , but am happy we can still see light among darkness .
The only thing we blacks inherited from the Arabs & Europeans is religion. Notice all societies full of religious indoctrination, lack education & nationalism and always ridden with violence.
Nigerian we get such imam ....i can't believe ....that degree of illiteracy to my beloved Nigerian? Giants of África? God ......i can understand why is easy of any Nigerian to say anything. Good job my Kenyan sister for the interview and patience .... isn't easy to hear somethings.... No wonder i am not journalist
Having kids you can't afford is a fast track to poverty. Also, having fewer children you can focus on them and put more resources into them to ensure a better quality of life for the outcome of that child.
Parents ought to take charge and raise their kids properly, it doesn't always have to be western education and govt help. Basic morals, parents being role models of working ethics(be it farming, shoe making, keeping guard, bricklayer, barber, trader etc) will help their kids to be a blessing to their community. The problem is parents do not want to accept their responsibilities. Family units make up a nation, if they are not in order, you get a country like Nigeria. All the corrupt politicians are also family units, were they raised by their parents properly or taught to go fastlane and hammer by hook or crook?
My heart goes out to all the women of the world that are seen as nothing but breeding cows by their husbands and religious leaders. To see the women forced to birth child after child against their will when they can barely feed or care for themselves is heartbreaking.
It's gender inequality, patriarchy within our families, community, religion, the government (corruption) etc so if those things can be tackled in Africa as a whole we could prosper
I'd say it's a curse, like 100M Nigerians are in extreme poverty, what good will more people do if Nigeria can't fix its poverty and infrastructure problem
I love what DW is doing to expose the problems and challenges of Nigeria in the open both in North and South Nigeria. People are coming out to speak. The issue of inequality of population and resources on ground, corrupt government, japa(emigration)...etc
The earth does not belong to you! In fact you're not even an Aborigine! Ancient Nigerians are the 'first people' everywhere including Europe and America!!!
This is one of the best Nigerian journalists I have seen. Was very objective and let everyone Express their views without imposing her opinions in questioning. Awesome interview 👍🏿👍🏿
She was not objective. She share the same malthusiam position as her external bosses who wish to see our population numbers dwindle so their people can take more of what belongs to Afrikans..
I'm not really interested in this debate, but I can't stop watching this aesthetically pleasing woman, who's intellect is impressive, her demeanor, her enclothed cognition, her articulate responses, her open ended questions opening dialog for critical thinking and analytically reasoning, encouraging new solutions through different Perspectives.
The media man from the govenor will never say anything against the government... he knows deep down in his conscience that the government is not doing the needful... Thank God down here in the south we're educating more women than even men... I'm proud of we the southern part of Nigeria...we don't have high illiteracy, early marriage and the most problems they have down there
Africans must learn how to manage, admin and operations of the economies. Population explosion is a good thing but Africans must learn equity, righteousness, order, justice and truth. That’s what brings prosperity, peace, harmony and tranquility. The truth is that everything in Africa is in chaos , disorder, corruption, poverty you name it.
Nigeria is NOT YET over-populated, but with the population boom seen since year 2000, where 60million children were added, there is a chance in 2040, the population would be 400 million. That should scare u because governance and development is not catching up with the growth. No consistent electricity, in 2020, roads are still poor, imagine doubling the population in these conditions.
@@josephpowon9031 dont compare.. as nation develops, there is reduction in population rate.. nigeria now holds most poor on earth 90 million..that means in 2030, it will be the poorest on earth if nothing is being done.
@@josephpowon9031 it called economy recession and by 2030 things will start getting better so don't say that, nigeria is still developing just rn we have no president for 8years
Hello Ms kiman, I as Kenyan I really feel bad for my Africans when I see people around me having many as 6 to10 children & they are poor, Now what do you expect to happen is killing each other because of land 🤔🤔🤔
Gambia is a Muslim country,but girls cannot marry until 18. Northern Nigeria can do this too. The Imam is not that wrong,the population could be a blessing if utilised.
The issue is how does the country cater for the population. Solve the corruption problems and people will manage themselves automatically. Free education, free healthcare, improve agriculture, create employment and entrepreneurship. The government cannot force birth control on people. The culture will not allow it. As long as people see children as their retirement plan, nothing will change. Population control is population time bomb in the future. Look at Europe with the baby boomers retiring and look at China and Japan. They now rely on immigration to cater for their older generation. Japan is a dying nation. And China has realized the time bomb coming for them and they have reversed their one child policy, but the damage is already done. Africa should not look outside our culture to solve the problem. Africa is blessed in so many ways. Our resources should be made available to the people and care for all our children.
This lady is so good but also help uncover our country, here in kenya there is alot of monopoly by the government and corruption and what have you which should be bursted open by these interviews.
The problem is the countries that surround Nigeria. They are very poor and the people feel like Nigeria can fix their own problem. But it can't. Nigeria doesn't really have the infrastructure to help people on the bottom. That is why the people on the bottom find themselves in worst shape than where they come from. And Nigerians find themselves being squeezed even more, so in return, they force to leave their country to find better pastures.
I am very happy you took this debate to Kano because from what I hear the government of kano state is directly involved in organising mass marreiges for it citizens without properly employing them.
if anything Nigeria should be making more kids. the real problem is demanding our government to be useful. statistically, Nigeria has enough resource to carter for its people but the management of this resource has failed us continuously. the imam is right, even if there are fewer people in Nigeria if its resources are mismanaged there would still be problems.
"We have everything poor" has the answer! Please stop comparing Nigeria to other African countries. They have strong cultures, they speak their own language, they own and exploit their resources. Nigeria is at that level "just because" successive leaders don't care about doing better dot.
@@cinnamonstar808 Yes, it is about politics. Nigeria has a unique history compared to other African countries. Nigeria has been able to get on the road of rapid growth and development at any time for the last 40 years. Remember Abuja being built in the 70's. Nowadays, even with a barrel at $100, local politics seems to rely on private sector for any massive investment (except the train). In 2021, if Nigeria is still poor it is due to mismanagement by Nigerians. Talking about poverty and / or imperialism in Africa while including Nigeria is JUST wrong.
@@jean-lucturquin6557 In 1970, Nigeria only had 56 million. Now around four times that many. Takes a lot of resources to house, feed, educate, etc. Mexico had a problem with population problem in the 1970s, but went with family planning. Mexico only doubled and is far better off than Nigeria now.
The boom of a population isn't the rain that falls too much. Therefore, instead of curse or blessing, it should be, responsible or irresponsible. If we have too much children we can't feed, who must be born to face the tragedy of hunger, miseries because we have no means, without doubt, we are irresponsible. We must educate ourselves on the idea that a child requires means. Therefore, we must have a number of kids that we can properly look after.
That imam is same as the senator who has 28 children am from the south am scared of getting married cause I don't have enough resources to take care of 2 kids spoke with my fiance that I want 2kids max she said 3 and my monthly income is 300k naira and someone in the north with just 15k monthly has 8 children what is wrong with this northern people sometimes I just feel like supporting people who wants the country divided
Could be a blessing or a curse, but let's not pretend like it's an African problem. Europe had a population boom before it decreased, Asia also. It's a human problem, not a black problem. Mismanagement of funds supposed to be educating people and improving their skills is one of the major problems. Africa is merely passing through what Europe and Asia went through in the past now. Further development will decrease this problem, sadly African leaders are corrupt so I don't see that happening anytime soon. Human nature is funny though, in the future... 😂 😂 This very same Africans will also be complaining about low and slow population growth. We're humans, we cry about everything. Educate woman and offer them rights like everyone, and African cultures should stop overpowering women and treat them like humans. Balance and equality of power between men and women is how you balance population growth. I grew up in a poor community but my mother was fortunate enough to attend college, my grandmother was working as a maid paying her fees. She decided to only have child she can afford. Most of her peers didn't receive proper schooling and they had about 3 or more children they couldn't afford. Nigeria has huge potential, will be interesting to see how they solve this problem. Remove corruption, and Nigeria will be an African superpower. This coming from a South African. Good Luck 🇳🇬
I genuinely believe that European institutions don't fear overpopulation. They fear economic development accompanies by population stabilization. Lets not pretend that these missionaries aren't already sterilizing unsuspecting women already. It's insidious tactic and disturbing. They encouraged China to establish the one child policy and now before they're population even reaches the same income levels as rich countries they face the burden an aggressive population decline. The Chinese government has acknowledged the one Child policy as a mistake and the fact that this reporter decided to use that same policy as a theoretical solution in a democratic country blew my mind.
Exactly, it''s good to see Africans who can think for themselves instead of falling for this thingly veiled, racist, islamophobic BS being presented as something as simple as a refusal to engage in family planning.....
But those leaders are also a product of the culture that made them. If the way to power is having to fight through a corrupt system then of course most leaders are going to be corrupt!
First of all you got this all wrong this has nothing to do woth relgion cause in the comment section people are blaming Islam but islam doesn't tell you to have alot kids
Spar demon No body is blaming Islam, I said the problem that any country is facing is created by the leaders with the religious leaders because most of the laws are twisted for their interest or to deceive their followers.
Religion is blaming the government, government is blaming the people vise vise. I think everyone is rite and wrong.. And I don't see any reason why a senator of the federal republic of Nigeria would be collecting 50m a month and the Nigerian teenager can't have 20k a month attach to his or her name
Psalms 127:3-5 “Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him. Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one's youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court”
It sounds like theirs too much faith in government to solve the population problem. Individuals and private businesses is the answer to most problems. Government is better for infrastructure problems.
Very foolish people that got their education from Ikorodu motor park. Half of Africa is food insecure. Without "da west", millions would starve. So many of our diets and traditional garbs are gotten from products supplied by "da west" @@princessdewi4626
Religion and politics shouldn’t be mixed together!!!!... how come us Africans follow a religion that wasn’t ours to begin with We follow the religion more than the people who brought it in. I’m not saying religion is bad, but it has lead to a series of misfortunate events based on religious beliefs You can keep your religious beliefs, just don’t try to use it with politics cause it leads to many problems!!!....periodt
We are not saying for Africans to stop having children, but it is not sustainable for every family to have 5, 6 or 7 children. At least try to limit the number of children to 3. The population would increase sustainably without depleting the natural resources.
But birth control is contrary to nature and against God's commandment to people to multiply. Pro-life viewpoint is very suggestive to have big families, yes 6 or 8 children, however many that married people can produce. Reasons to have more children are universal and can apply to *ALL* families.
With due respect, the Imam representing the conservative voice is clear indication that there is need for reeducation. The malams may have good intentions, but out of lack of interaction, they felt to understand other interpretations of Islam.
@@dubemellit2932 we can't say that, it provided platform some good things in history, say translating Greek and Persian philosophy and science into Arabic which was later translated into Latin and subsequently English. That contributed to western civilization as we know it today.
@@Olori-Ogun I agree with you, but the two are not completely separable. It is like western civilization and English language, though they are two separate things, they are interrelated.
@@ismailhashim596 western civilisation according to credible scholars started in ancient Greece, they spoke ancient Greek, it had nothing to do with English.
Basic idea - Unemployed youth can lead to crime. You have to check that. Either give them jobs or begin setting measures. Setting measures how ever you want to do it. If that lady said Islam does not encourage having children you cannot afford, this should not be difficult.a
@Ms. Kimani: I’d seen a few of your Pan African vlogs, & I applaud your work! I’m a Nigerian American, & I find this Population boom issue that you’re addressing to be, Cogent! The rampant birthing & large families have cultural & religious renderings that perpetuate this Scourge! The women & their children pay the ultimate price, Edith, as the men aren’t held responsible for the children they help bring into the world. Nigeria has No laws on the books to institute ‘Child support’, No mechanism for implementation of such laws, & Men or Women as may be have No employment opportunities to enable Compliance! Too many mouths to feed while resources are diminishing constantly! Erstwhile the primary mode of life N living was subsistence farming, parents needed farm hands just to keep up, and so traditionally men took multiple wives & unrestrained birthing as some of the children are lost to or were victims of SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome) as well as the effects of inadequate nutrition... ~ Fast forward to our times & we find fewer farmlands for Crops, younger folks are heading to Cities & have little or no interest in Agriculture, not many Job opportunities except for Civil service employment opportunities and that very Nepotistic! It’s crazy for the people in Africa especially Nigeria! There aren’t any Easy answers as I’m personally against Abortions, Child neglect and spousal abuses and abandonment! ~ Edith this time around, let’s not do a ‘One & Out’ and consider this matter resolved...Return to it time and again! Education, Employment Opportunities, Family planning requiring Sex education for Men and Women, and finally a spiritual awakening is perhaps the All encompassing Solutions that’ll afford the Answer! ~ what say you, Edith?😘👍🏽✅
What is being practiced in Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, Saudi arabia, UAE, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait but to mention a few. It isn’t the religion of Islam, it is the culture and misunderstanding of the religion.
Are you pro or against family planning? We welcome your views on this topical issue.
Irresponsible parents. These parents haven’t owned up to their responsibility to train their kids. Biko, who is this government that is supposed to train your children? Are Government funds not from collected taxes? Very irresponsible. They keep calling Allah’s name? Why? Take responsibility for your actions. More fundamentally, why should you take money from the private sector to train children? These socialist ideas have led us to ruin. Many southern families are now having 2-4 children.
What are resources? I challenge you to tell me what these “resources” are? Taxes? Oil proceeds? Solid minerals? I would like the Government to review the payscale and benefits for the civil service and elected officials. Perhaps parents marry their daughters off so there is are less mouths to feed. These parents don’t take any pride in their children.
Government this, Government that?
@Tom Der kinderen about Europea will suffer it tooi, there will no resources to steal in Africa. So it not only Africa that will suffer climate changes.
I'm against it because having a lot of people and on top of it young people is a wealth and a blessing. The issue is that the resources need to be managed better. Western countries would do anything to have our population and our youth.
This is why we need to separate religion and politics. They dont mix together
its the SAME. 👉🏾Action is conscious. 𝐹𝑜𝓇 𝐸𝓍𝒶𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑒; Abrahamic faiths pollute the Earth & agrees with laws to do so. why? because Earth isnt the final destiny..the clouds are ☁ 🌥 🌤 ☁ .
vs animist faith aka prior dominant belief system who kept the earth 🌍 🌎 🌏 pristine. 𝑀𝒶𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓃 𝒶𝓃𝒸𝒾𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝐸𝑔𝓎𝓅𝓉 𝒶𝓁𝓈𝑜 𝒻𝑜𝓁𝓁𝑜𝓌𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 "𝓌𝒶𝓎 𝑜𝒻 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒" Truth, Justice, Balance, Order, Compassion, Harmony, and Reciprocity
Africa, Australia, Amazon, Nepal, Japan, Fiji; it echoed everywhere AND LAWS ARE MADE BY MAN's BELIEF SYSTEM
𝐹𝑜𝓇 𝐸𝓍𝒶𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑒 2; Abrahamic faiths💕, loves,💕,💕, to aid the-less-fortunate. Politicians in those country do not banned donation or voluntary work. Tax is the Law... except for you know who. no special law for Pregnant nuns
𝐹𝑜𝓇 𝐸𝓍𝒶𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑒 3 : atheist politicians and atheist soldiers arent trusted; because what principle drives them? 👉🏾the Action wiil come from his/her conscious.
cinnamonstar808
If humanity can master space exploration and colonization. Population explosion could not be an issue anymore as there are abundance of resources and vast space in our solar system and nearby star systems.
Space is really the final frontier to all mankind
Is why you need NO religion at all.. religion only creates social problems (poverty) and war - but you won't so look forward to a terrible future, you all earned it..
@J Audrey wrong.. if this was the case, please explain why there are so many wars in Africa, between Christianity and Islam.. why there is so much friction in all countries between Christianity and Islam... also why the poorest and most desperate people in the World, are the ones who are the most religious.. so where is your evidence... ??? But then religion is the invention of humans... so in that respect those humans who cannot see the nonsense religion is, are humans with problems.. are you one of them ?
@J Audrey then you might like to think, why is it that people in the most religious countries are desperate to get out to more non religious countries where they cause turmoil in those countries, which is why there is a rising tide of resentment against these religious nutters.. and then I could ask, since you think you know so much, do you have the slightest idea of the history of religion and mythology.. I can't say I am holding my breath as the normal hypocritical aspect of people like you, is that you throw a few words out and then run, as you are incapable of debating your position.. and I thought I would put this in now, as I can't be bothered to waste my time posting again when you fail to make an intelligent response.. but I am very happy to be proved wrong..
I am a Muslim myself, but this imam is outta touch with reality.They should stop child marriages, very simple.
The problem of most muslim societies on the planet seems to be: Why are there not more Muslims like you? Do you have an idea?
@@Flex2212 Not really what about the arabian gulf where they are flourishing economically countries like saudi arabia and the UAE are doing fine despite being one of the most religious countries in the world
Nigeria should invent a law to bring population down in the next few years so population doesn't project to 700 million by 2100.
@@an_1232 Gulf states are flourishing "economically" because of the oil resources they can exploit. They are just starting to build an economy around that for the time after that. Their situation is in no way comparable.
You're a infideI for not following prophet's teaching of marrying 6 years oId girIs
Common sense beats religion. Look at your children and be the judge. As a Nigerian it isnt ok to be born to beg for food.. family planning is not "evil", it offends no one. Not even God. It is ignorance even among the educated because of religion and cultural norms to feel its otherwise
He just want to have unprotected sex.
if women have only one kid be more rich thinking like a popr people if have 2 or more stop to born miserables kids
Man don’t give birth that’s why imam is saying women must bring more kids, but a lady insists because who feels it knows it
Edith Kimani is a solid journalist. Fantastic moderation on a very important topic.
She's beautiful and smart
@@johnohando2390 najifunia kuewa mkenya lol
Honestly, she’s top notch!
🏴🇰🇪 Edith KIMANI is a KENYAN AFRICAN Lady. "GOD" BLESS her.
Nigerians need to change their mindsets immediately,this issue has reached critical levels and it's mind boggling to me that inspite of the glaring challenges over population will bring about, people still lay so much emphasis on child bearing,it doesn't cease to amaze me that people can't on their own look at the situation and decide to have one or two children at the most for the time being until the population issue is in check.We need an intervention and we need it now,our beliefs are creating situations that are not sustainable, keep culture and religious beliefs aside and become practical because having kids you can't take care of and who will just be frustrated in so many different ways when they grow up is ridiculous.
Separate laws and religion and do what right for the nation
You don’t know northern Nigeria. It is the basement of hard core Islamic fanatics. The Emir of Kano who is highly educated tried to educate them to embrace education and forward-thinking values but they ganged up against him. They created a lot of problems for him and the man was thus silenced.
As things are today, Kano State government still routinely organizes mass wedding - an even that brings many women together en-mass for men to shop, compare and buy. Think about that. That’s why those of us in the south want a secession from the north. We don’t share the same values!
Eradicate Islam using the military. It's an Arab supremacist religion.
This is the most intelligent conversation I have ever heard from African people on TH-cam. Good job guys.I'm Nigerian, based in the United states and I'm indeed very impressed.
I agree
Red liar
If this is the most intelligent conversation than Africa is doomed
But China have law on population control
And it happens to be in a area dominated by Islam. Leave little girls alone, and let education alone as well. Learning the Quran will not create architects, engineers, doctors etc..
They must give the Islam ideology back to the racist Morrocan and Arab slave traders who introduced this nonsense to West Africa when they subjugated Blacks and enforced their imperialistic-colonialist ideas upon the people!
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thanks for this comment, i am Nigerian , and i will tell you that this problem is mainly in the north where the politicians keeps them the people uneducated, so as to be manipulated and be controlled, the north rely on this for electoral and revenue sharing purposes, that is why you hear them talk about government and blame the government for problems they caused themselves, this kind of situation can not be found in the south.
@@jonathanogbone9925 you lied you have your fair share of child marriage & pregnancy, poor education and bad governance wherever you come from
Jonathan Ogbone ....you forgot to mention Islam...the Arab secret cult founded by warlord and women panties stealer momoha
Look at what religion has done to my African people!
Adezi Chris ..No , don’t blame religion.Africans generally have always give birth to lot of children because in the past the more children you have ,you are likely to do better in farming and defending your Territory. This culture has been passed over to generations.Religion only play a very small role because it does not apply to everyone ..Teenage child birth ,Polygamy,lack of sex education too.There just many factors to these .One can’t blackmail religion for African problems
What about China and India?
Times have change to keep having lots of children. Some aspects of religion and culture is an hindrance to development, so Adezi, you are so right: re: see what religion has done to my people.
Adezi Chris
Thank you , " TOTALLY AGREE " brothers and sisters , Read me on this , and read me well . Religion is a " CREP/RUBBISH " CRIMINAL /ACT .
Why ppl do not understand this ,is beyond my " COMPREHENSION " PEACE AND LOVE TO ( MOTHERLAND ) .
"The truth is, There is no law when it comes to child marry in (Kano) the northern Nigeria, When girls speak they are silence with islamic Sharia laws."
@Lucas. What an ignorant, tribalistic bigot. This coming from guys, who can't mention the five pillars of Islam, are now authorities on Shari'a law.
Conflating Sharia law & local traditions nothing new & nothing exclusive to the North.
@@COO415 Why is it so often muslim countries then?
This is not Islam or islamic law it is culture. Islamic law gives women and girls the right to chose who, when or if they want to marry and encourages education it allows women to speak up it is just culture mixed with religion that shuts them up they are confused
@@Flex2212Nowadays because there is no single leadership for muslims people have moved away from their roots and have mixed culture with religion and don’t the difference. Islam allows women to speak out and gives them the right to decline and chose to marry when ever they want. Forced Marriage is not allowed and if islam was practiced properly they wouldn’t have this problem as true shariah gives the right for Girls to decline marriage and demand education, in many arab countries most people in universities are women and they tend to marry at later ages. We need legislation in Nigeria the imam is ignorant we need. Islam is fully compatible with family planing and even contraception and a requirement for having a family is that you must be able to afford a family and children if you can’t, you cant get married.
@@an_1232 That sounds good but looking at reality, I am very skeptical.
Talk is not enough, right?
The north really needs to educate it's people on family planning. Oan, Nigeria is actually VERY diverse!
If you put a border fence around then they will figure it out themselves when it gets to cramped. It is probably the easiest way than to try to convince them now.
@@PiecesOfNatureHonestly
If you think only the north is the problem, you are mistaken. There are a lot of bastard children roaming everywhere in Nigeria, majority who become area boys, kidnappers, bandits etc.
I never thought about it that way. It's easy to blame the government for all your problems but everyone individually has the power to make change.
Just want to commend the journalist. She is smart and clever.
As for the Imam, Religion must be done with common sense. If the government resources are not yet there, use common sense to limit the number of children you have in order to reduce suffering and death of women and children.
If govwrnment gwts involvwd with popularion control it will be the women who war is waged against and female fetuses that will fill abortion bins.
Just like what happened millions in China. Know the implicatioms and consequences before choosimg to mimic what the Chinese themselves have now reversed policy on.
The man is nonsensical ,does he want to end up like Bangladesh.
@@BonsuBigWhale China has now more power in Nigeria than Nigeria. That is what happened.
She is beautiful too
The Iman sounds ridiculous, he said "Allah will determine how many children you should have"....Islam and Christianity has ruined the minds of our people globally.
alfonso m
I agree with you my brother. Islam and Christianity should be killed in that country for it to be scientific and forward thinking.
I Agree
@@bigapple9610 Should be "killed"? Are you promoting genocide of religious people? I don't agree with the Imans assessment, but I also don't want him to be "killed". People will naturally distance themselves from fundamentalist and bigot interpretations of religion once given a proper education that allows them to understand natural science and rational decision making. No need to act like a savage and "kill" anyone!
@alfonso m. I take it that your problem is about belief in God. If it's about population boom, that's global issue. China & India are way ahead of Africa on that.
Take your atheist BS someplace & leave Christians & Muslims practice their faith, 'cos I don't see anyone shoving their faith down your throat.
Besides, you guys are blinded by your ignorance or bigotry or both. The Imam, summed up everything in one sentence, "mismanagement of resources in Nigeria". Case closed.
Fun fact, America, has the land & means to feed the entire global population, yep, the rest is politics. And I bet West Africa, has the land & developing means to feed the entire African continent.
Amazing debate, you can feel the passion of these people for a better Northern Nigeria. We need more outspoken and action-driven individuals across the nation.
Idris Busari ...better north please...and better Islam
@@dubemellit2932 nope Christian as well
Nigeria will never develop and become rich when it has so many mouths to feed.
migration is an option especially to Europe since population is declining there
Mehta do you want migrants then
@@Dhuxul9 It's not. There's no need for uneducated wealfare customers in continent that is barely standing up. Europe will collapse and then Nobody gets anything. In fact Europe will collapse in few years. Propably before 2030.
@@Dhuxul9Europe doesn't want that
It will when it puts to a stop to poor Europe sponging of them & bleeding their resources.
Thanks for this panel Edith. I enjoyed hearing what the women, the ones actually giving birth, had to say.
Also, if you can’t afford to feed, house, educate, clothe, and give medical care to one child and mother, what makes you think having more is a good idea???
Because you can take a raft to Europe and get free housing and food. That's why.
@Tracchofyre I think the ones who have stayed in Europe for a few years now should have learned enough about how more desirable societies function, to go back to their homeland and improve it to the standard they like.
It shows what a man you are if have lots of kids
I am pro family planning.
I have a big issue with Africans having a mindset of giving birth to children for the government to train (That is so 1960).
Like one of the contributors said, we should start taking responsibility for the education of our children as well as the living condition of our families. Taking responsibility will help them to live above religious sentiments and do what needs to be done.
Also, It’s high time the society stopped limiting the significance of wives to just pleasing their husbands and birthing children even to their own detriment . The dreams of a woman are still valid even in marriage ; FYI taking care of children is a full time job and a whole lot will have to be sacrificed to take care of many children.
bukkie banks ...in as much as we support family planning....I don’t know where you got the information that Nigerians give birth for govt to train ?
Have you ever see or heard of a child train by govt?
The secularization of policy amongst the values of different groups of people in Nigeria will be a challenge. Would it even be possible to allow women who don’t agree with their male counterparts to find new living situations? How much protection should separate states have to conduct their operations whilst receiving funds from the government. A new standard for Nigeria?
I can't understand why they want so many children when they can't feed,educate or even have decate medical care
It's because they are selfish!
It shows how manly you are to have lots of kids
Firstly, very interesting, secondly, the young woman who asked the questions, a very smart woman, I ask myself and many others this question, why is there so much poverty in Africa? Africa is the most resource-rich continent in the world, but the people are the poorest in the world. I am a father myself. I raised 5 children, part of the time I was a single father, my children were close to my heart, I only went to 4th grade, if a father can't earn enough money to support his family, he shouldn't force his wife to have children if the child is not getting enough to eat and is malnourished, their brain cannot develop properly and the child is unlikely to do well in school. The child cannot become a businessman, then the situation in the country will never get better.
Lagos is actually the most populous state in Nigeria.
@oceej0 . No sir, nobody in Hausa land said so. This expose made that error. Lagos is not only the most populous in Naija but one of the world's mega cities. Sadly, one of the worst.
Is hausa and fulani same?
@@qwerty-vp1sb no- but are similar( they intermarry) and both muslims
That’s a commercial center dude
People go there for opportunities
@@COO415 it developing
Fantastic discussion. Well done Edith Kimani ❤. I watch a lot of 77 Percent and i think this is my favorite 😍 ❤
I love this debate it's really put a sauce in my soul how wish we can have this information constantly get to my peoples all around Nigeria 🇳🇬 🇳🇬 it is going to give us the quality view of what it take to move our country forward God bless Nigeria 🇳🇬
The government in Nigeria should just put laws to stop 🛑 these child marriages and safeguard from these child abuse. Any men who marry children must be arrested. I applaud these women who are speaking up on the panel.
They are lazy. They won't do anything.
That's one the problems of religion.
I am so worried about the population explosion. I actually feel ashamed to be human sometimes. Forget corona, WE are the virus.
This video gives me a shred of hope for us though. It seems more and more Africans are growing concerned with the population problem.
Yes Neil, the person who understand what human as species have done to our home the earth, that person feels ashamed, and that drives us to be better and nurture better future as well.
Let’s not be part of the problem.
@@Kathakathan11 I try to do my part.
2035-2040 nigeria supras indonesia in population nigeria 5.25 and indonesia 2.27 because indonesia industrial 4.0, indonesia not accepting refugees, american accepting refugees
Nothing worse than a self hating human bring
Some nigerians stay complaining about the government and not doing what they can do for themselves. The population is growing too fast, when the government refused to give stable electricity, Nigerians bought their own private generators for their homes and businesses. When the government refused to provide clean water, Nigerians got their own boreholes. When the quality of education in public school started depleting, Nigerians started sending their children to private schools. Please help yourself and don't wait for this nonsense government
So you want to use generator and bore hole till eternity. You like the noise/environmental pollution? Plus it's expensive and killing off SMEs since expenses cut well into profit margins. Also bore holes can deplete underground basin water. The government needs to take and deliver on its responsibilities to its people
The government in Nigeria is literally non existent. So give birth to children you can take care of. Nigerians have to solve their own problems by themselves because of this. Nobody likes noise pollution but the alternative is not having electricity for large amounts of hours even after paying electricity bill. This will cause unproductivity and a lot of businesses depend on electricity to survive.
@@ibukunoluwaishola1486 Naija should work on a nuclear energy option.
@@BonsuBigWhale or solar
@@ibukunoluwaishola1486 since 2015 we never have a government #Buharimustgo
The reason the northern part of Nigeria is able to sustain this population boom without check and balance " is because they are getting free lunch from the south" and they are very comfortable with it.
It’s the poorest region in Nigeria you idiot 😂
Thank you so much for this video... letting us know people's ideas on these topics brings conversations that will over time help us make a neutral decision.👏
@O.V.O`S_ILLUSIONS many thanks for your comment. Keep it locked!
Today in many states families want 1 or 2 kids to look after, and for a better future for the kids.
More power for the woman to take control of their future, they should not be treated as a man property but as a individual with equal mental capacity as a man.
Amen!
Women themselves do not want an equal. They are biologically wired to choose partners based on security and would always be looking to monkey branch and trade up.
it wont happen in poor countries , because the problem is still putting food in table .
Sometimes more capacity if we're keeping it real.
@hannahi9355 lmao, almost never
Fertility rate:
Lagos 3 kids per female
North Nigeria 6 kids per female
@Rupesh Thakare hi
Both are very high rates
@@joegee6434 Lagos has a considerable population replacement rate compared to northern Nigeria. If the country was to divide, the north will become landlocked and poverty will be rampant. The north holds the highest poverty rate in Nigeria at 86 percent of Nigeria poverty population. I am fine with 3. 😂
Not Africa just say Nigerian are increasing especially in the north Nigerian
Can you name a single African country where the population is not increasing?
What about mali chad south sudan niger ugand tanzanaia dr congo??Almost all african countries have enormous fertility rate
@@PiecesOfNature Will name two. Namibia (2.6 million people), Botswana (2.3 million people)
@@chesshudsen4643 a quick search says they are Both increasing even though they are desert countries.
@@chesshudsen4643 it increasing by percentage
And most of their population is in South Africa.
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Most of Nigerian population of 200 million is in SA? 😂😂😂Ignorance on rampage
You south Africans always sticking your fat noses in what doesn't concern you
Religion has really affected Africa and Nigeria in particular in a negative way that we can't use our brains , but am happy we can still see light among darkness .
The only thing we blacks inherited from the Arabs & Europeans is religion. Notice all societies full of religious indoctrination, lack education & nationalism and always ridden with violence.
Edith Kimani a fantastic journalist, I'm rooting for her success
Nigerian we get such imam ....i can't believe ....that degree of illiteracy to my beloved Nigerian? Giants of África? God ......i can understand why is easy of any Nigerian to say anything. Good job my Kenyan sister for the interview and patience .... isn't easy to hear somethings.... No wonder i am not journalist
Yes we are giant of Africa 🇳🇬😘
@@okonkwodavid644 Lol ....foolish bragging. Nigeria is a useless and a failed state.
Having kids you can't afford is a fast track to poverty. Also, having fewer children you can focus on them and put more resources into them to ensure a better quality of life for the outcome of that child.
Parents ought to take charge and raise their kids properly, it doesn't always have to be western education and govt help. Basic morals, parents being role models of working ethics(be it farming, shoe making, keeping guard, bricklayer, barber, trader etc) will help their kids to be a blessing to their community. The problem is parents do not want to accept their responsibilities. Family units make up a nation, if they are not in order, you get a country like Nigeria. All the corrupt politicians are also family units, were they raised by their parents properly or taught to go fastlane and hammer by hook or crook?
Well said
My heart goes out to all the women of the world that are seen as nothing but breeding cows by their husbands and religious leaders. To see the women forced to birth child after child against their will when they can barely feed or care for themselves is heartbreaking.
The guy at 0.21 and his ilk are Nigeria’s biggest headache. The one at 2.02 is spot on. The first lady with the red scarf put it brilliantly.
It's gender inequality, patriarchy within our families, community, religion, the government (corruption) etc so if those things can be tackled in Africa as a whole we could prosper
Feminism is coming for Africa and will destroys communities like it did in the west. Better think first before you wish ..
@@mmichels3662 no I am for true feminism not the ones in the west
I just love this anchor. She coordinates her questions well. Her abilities make me love her to the moon and back.
I'd say it's a curse, like 100M Nigerians are in extreme poverty, what good will more people do if Nigeria can't fix its poverty and infrastructure problem
Remove islam .... Peace in nigeria
Islam is going nowhere!
Remove yourself from the
the planet! The earth belongs to Allah!!!!
This was beautiful. Keep it up and it's good for Nigerian unification.
i feel like the north and south will split because of this issue one day
I love what DW is doing to expose the problems and challenges of Nigeria in the open both in North and South Nigeria. People are coming out to speak. The issue of inequality of population and resources on ground, corrupt government, japa(emigration)...etc
Keep growing, that's great.
Just do it over there
🤣🤣🤣. Am from Ghana and am scared cos a lot of Nigerians moving to my country now.
The earth does not belong to you! In fact you're not even an Aborigine! Ancient Nigerians are the 'first people' everywhere including Europe and America!!!
Who gives a fk
@@craiganthonyhill
You do! Gotdamn devil !!!!
@@kano3030 / you are a true colonizer and should be deported back to Nigeria as soon as possible!
This is one of the best Nigerian journalists I have seen. Was very objective and let everyone Express their views without imposing her opinions in questioning. Awesome interview 👍🏿👍🏿
She is not Nigerian
She's kenyan
She was not objective. She share the same malthusiam position as her external bosses who wish to see our population numbers dwindle so their people can take more of what belongs to Afrikans..
Kenyan *
Actually Edith is Kenyan lol
"Brother. Ismail Thanks so much for the statistics And saying the facts. peace bro."
Very scintillating discussion. Well organized. More of such is necessary.
Great interviewer, she knows what questions to ask!
I'm not really interested in this debate, but I can't stop watching this aesthetically pleasing woman, who's intellect is impressive, her demeanor, her enclothed cognition, her articulate responses, her open ended questions opening dialog for critical thinking and analytically reasoning, encouraging new solutions through different Perspectives.
Do you want to date her
@@hugodaniel8975 Date her?!..That's wifey material right there! 💍 💒
The media man from the govenor will never say anything against the government... he knows deep down in his conscience that the government is not doing the needful...
Thank God down here in the south we're educating more women than even men... I'm proud of we the southern part of Nigeria...we don't have high illiteracy, early marriage and the most problems they have down there
Discovering this 77percent channel just upgraded my respect for DW
Would be better if you were able to feed or accommodate 90% of the population otherwise it's just total madness
Not only the government is the problem but society, religion etc
Africans must learn how to manage, admin and operations of the economies. Population explosion is a good thing but Africans must learn equity, righteousness, order, justice and truth. That’s what brings prosperity, peace, harmony and tranquility. The truth is that everything in Africa is in chaos , disorder, corruption, poverty you name it.
Maybe the explosion is a good thing. Let's help them by not taking in the excessive amount of migrants in the future. Im talking as a non-african.
Nigeria is NOT YET over-populated, but with the population boom seen since year 2000, where 60million children were added, there is a chance in 2040, the population would be 400 million. That should scare u because governance and development is not catching up with the growth. No consistent electricity, in 2020, roads are still poor, imagine doubling the population in these conditions.
400 million thats alot of people,currently Kenya is at 50 and its seen as a lot and by 2050 its projected to rise to 80m
@@josephpowon9031 dont compare.. as nation develops, there is reduction in population rate.. nigeria now holds most poor on earth 90 million..that means in 2030, it will be the poorest on earth if nothing is being done.
@@josephpowon9031 it called economy recession and by 2030 things will start getting better so don't say that, nigeria is still developing just rn we have no president for 8years
Hello Ms kiman, I as Kenyan I really feel bad for my Africans when I see people around me having many as 6 to10 children & they are poor, Now what do you expect to happen is killing each other because of land 🤔🤔🤔
Brilliant and I am impressed with the discussants.
Gambia is a Muslim country,but girls cannot marry until 18.
Northern Nigeria can do this too.
The Imam is not that wrong,the population could be a blessing if utilised.
Facts 💯
The issue is how does the country cater for the population. Solve the corruption problems and people will manage themselves automatically. Free education, free healthcare, improve agriculture, create employment and entrepreneurship. The government cannot force birth control on people. The culture will not allow it. As long as people see children as their retirement plan, nothing will change. Population control is population time bomb in the future. Look at Europe with the baby boomers retiring and look at China and Japan. They now rely on immigration to cater for their older generation. Japan is a dying nation. And China has realized the time bomb coming for them and they have reversed their one child policy, but the damage is already done. Africa should not look outside our culture to solve the problem. Africa is blessed in so many ways. Our resources should be made available to the people and care for all our children.
Nothern Nigeria is the problem of Nigeria. They reason with their foot
@emmmany..No sir, the problem of Nigeria are people like you who reason with their butt holes.
Mumu, just JUST SIT DOWN!.
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Foot? More like anus
This lady is so good but also help uncover our country, here in kenya there is alot of monopoly by the government and corruption and what have you which should be bursted open by these interviews.
The problem is the countries that surround Nigeria. They are very poor and the people feel like Nigeria can fix their own problem. But it can't. Nigeria doesn't really have the infrastructure to help people on the bottom. That is why the people on the bottom find themselves in worst shape than where they come from. And Nigerians find themselves being squeezed even more, so in return, they force to leave their country to find better pastures.
Great journalist!!!!!!
In my opinion If you don't have economic conditions to create 6 children,have only two ou three,it is better to give a better conditions of live.
I am very happy you took this debate to Kano because from what I hear the government of kano state is directly involved in organising mass marreiges for it citizens without properly employing them.
We are glad you enjoyed it!
if anything Nigeria should be making more kids. the real problem is demanding our government to be useful. statistically, Nigeria has enough resource to carter for its people but the management of this resource has failed us continuously. the imam is right, even if there are fewer people in Nigeria if its resources are mismanaged there would still be problems.
To make more kids is an atrocious recommendation. Please avoid any position of policy-making.
19:00 was heart breaking. You can hear the pain in her voice. I wonder if she was forced into a marriage.
Wow the accent in northern Nigeria is unique
I like this discussion. I think more of this should be done in the North. I am happy this is happened in Kano
"We have everything poor" has the answer! Please stop comparing Nigeria to other African countries. They have strong cultures, they speak their own language, they own and exploit their resources. Nigeria is at that level "just because" successive leaders don't care about doing better dot.
Poverty is Politics. Nigeria will be fine for the future
@@cinnamonstar808 Yes, it is about politics. Nigeria has a unique history compared to other African countries. Nigeria has been able to get on the road of rapid growth and development at any time for the last 40 years. Remember Abuja being built in the 70's. Nowadays, even with a barrel at $100, local politics seems to rely on private sector for any massive investment (except the train). In 2021, if Nigeria is still poor it is due to mismanagement by Nigerians. Talking about poverty and / or imperialism in Africa while including Nigeria is JUST wrong.
@@jean-lucturquin6557 In 1970, Nigeria only had 56 million. Now around four times that many. Takes a lot of resources to house, feed, educate, etc. Mexico had a problem with population problem in the 1970s, but went with family planning. Mexico only doubled and is far better off than Nigeria now.
Unique history...i dont think so
The boom of a population isn't the rain that falls too much. Therefore, instead of curse or blessing, it should be, responsible or irresponsible. If we have too much children we can't feed, who must be born to face the tragedy of hunger, miseries because we have no means, without doubt, we are irresponsible.
We must educate ourselves on the idea that a child requires means. Therefore, we must have a number of kids that we can properly look after.
Thank you, DW, for going on the ground in Africa!
That imam is same as the senator who has 28 children am from the south am scared of getting married cause I don't have enough resources to take care of 2 kids spoke with my fiance that I want 2kids max she said 3 and my monthly income is 300k naira and someone in the north with just 15k monthly has 8 children what is wrong with this northern people sometimes I just feel like supporting people who wants the country divided
Are people honestly pretending this is a good thing?
It is , everything have blessings and caused
Low IQ
Blessing. Blessings of GOD Maketh Rich, He added no sorrow To It... everything GOD Maketh is Beautiful....
Could be a blessing or a curse, but let's not pretend like it's an African problem. Europe had a population boom before it decreased, Asia also.
It's a human problem, not a black problem. Mismanagement of funds supposed to be educating people and improving their skills is one of the major problems. Africa is merely passing through what Europe and Asia went through in the past now. Further development will decrease this problem, sadly African leaders are corrupt so I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Human nature is funny though, in the future... 😂 😂 This very same Africans will also be complaining about low and slow population growth. We're humans, we cry about everything. Educate woman and offer them rights like everyone, and African cultures should stop overpowering women and treat them like humans. Balance and equality of power between men and women is how you balance population growth. I grew up in a poor community but my mother was fortunate enough to attend college, my grandmother was working as a maid paying her fees. She decided to only have child she can afford. Most of her peers didn't receive proper schooling and they had about 3 or more children they couldn't afford. Nigeria has huge potential, will be interesting to see how they solve this problem. Remove corruption, and Nigeria will be an African superpower. This coming from a South African. Good Luck 🇳🇬
I genuinely believe that European institutions don't fear overpopulation. They fear economic development accompanies by population stabilization. Lets not pretend that these missionaries aren't already sterilizing unsuspecting women already. It's insidious tactic and disturbing. They encouraged China to establish the one child policy and now before they're population even reaches the same income levels as rich countries they face the burden an aggressive population decline. The Chinese government has acknowledged the one Child policy as a mistake and the fact that this reporter decided to use that same policy as a theoretical solution in a democratic country blew my mind.
Exactly, it''s good to see Africans who can think for themselves instead of falling for this thingly veiled, racist, islamophobic BS being presented as something as simple as a refusal to engage in family planning.....
Lack of education leads to overpopulation and poverty, Nigerians must be educated.
Edith is soo good!👌🏾
Mass education would help check population growth. Democratize education!
"The problem that any COUNTRY is facing is created by the leaders of that country and the religious leader's of that country."
But those leaders are also a product of the culture that made them. If the way to power is having to fight through a corrupt system then of course most leaders are going to be corrupt!
First of all you got this all wrong this has nothing to do woth relgion cause in the comment section people are blaming Islam but islam doesn't tell you to have alot kids
Spar demon No body is blaming Islam, I said the problem that any country is facing is created by the leaders with the religious leaders because most of the laws are twisted for their interest or to deceive their followers.
Religion is blaming the government, government is blaming the people vise vise. I think everyone is rite and wrong.. And I don't see any reason why a senator of the federal republic of Nigeria would be collecting 50m a month and the Nigerian teenager can't have 20k a month attach to his or her name
It's going to be a curse.. trust me on this.. I m n indian..
Psalms 127:3-5
“Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him. Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one's youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court”
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It sounds like theirs too much faith in government to solve the population problem. Individuals and private businesses is the answer to most problems. Government is better for infrastructure problems.
Very educative
100 billion people can live in Africa and still have enough space to live and food to eat at longs as the West does not interfere.
Fool
Very foolish people that got their education from Ikorodu motor park. Half of Africa is food insecure. Without "da west", millions would starve. So many of our diets and traditional garbs are gotten from products supplied by "da west" @@princessdewi4626
Religion and politics shouldn’t be mixed together!!!!... how come us Africans follow a religion that wasn’t ours to begin with
We follow the religion more than the people who brought it in.
I’m not saying religion is bad, but it has lead to a series of misfortunate events based on religious beliefs
You can keep your religious beliefs, just don’t try to use it with politics cause it leads to many problems!!!....periodt
The reporter is so beautiful.
We are not saying for Africans to stop having children, but it is not sustainable for every family to have 5, 6 or 7 children. At least try to limit the number of children to 3. The population would increase sustainably without depleting the natural resources.
But birth control is contrary to nature and against God's commandment to people to multiply. Pro-life viewpoint is very suggestive to have big families, yes 6 or 8 children, however many that married people can produce. Reasons to have more children are universal and can apply to *ALL* families.
With due respect, the Imam representing the conservative voice is clear indication that there is need for reeducation. The malams may have good intentions, but out of lack of interaction, they felt to understand other interpretations of Islam.
Ismail Hashim ....nothing to understand in Islam ,it’s a disease
@@dubemellit2932 we can't say that, it provided platform some good things in history, say translating Greek and Persian philosophy and science into Arabic which was later translated into Latin and subsequently English. That contributed to western civilization as we know it today.
@@ismailhashim596 Arabic is a language whereas Islam an ideology...
@@Olori-Ogun I agree with you, but the two are not completely separable. It is like western civilization and English language, though they are two separate things, they are interrelated.
@@ismailhashim596 western civilisation according to credible scholars started in ancient Greece, they spoke ancient Greek, it had nothing to do with English.
Basic idea - Unemployed youth can lead to crime. You have to check that. Either give them jobs or begin setting measures. Setting measures how ever you want to do it. If that lady said Islam does not encourage having children you cannot afford, this should not be difficult.a
@Ms. Kimani: I’d seen a few of your Pan African vlogs, & I applaud your work! I’m a Nigerian American, & I find this Population boom issue that you’re addressing to be, Cogent! The rampant birthing & large families have cultural & religious renderings that perpetuate this Scourge! The women & their children pay the ultimate price, Edith, as the men aren’t held responsible for the children they help bring into the world. Nigeria has No laws on the books to institute ‘Child support’, No mechanism for implementation of such laws, & Men or Women as may be have No employment opportunities to enable Compliance!
Too many mouths to feed while resources are diminishing constantly! Erstwhile the primary mode of life N living was subsistence farming, parents needed farm hands just to keep up, and so traditionally men took multiple wives & unrestrained birthing as some of the children are lost to or were victims of SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome) as well as the effects of inadequate nutrition...
~ Fast forward to our times & we find fewer farmlands for Crops, younger folks are heading to Cities & have little or no interest in Agriculture, not many Job opportunities except for Civil service employment opportunities and that very Nepotistic! It’s crazy for the people in Africa especially Nigeria! There aren’t any Easy answers as I’m personally against Abortions, Child neglect and spousal abuses and abandonment!
~ Edith this time around, let’s not do a ‘One & Out’ and consider this matter resolved...Return to it time and again! Education, Employment Opportunities, Family planning requiring Sex education for Men and Women, and finally a spiritual awakening is perhaps the All encompassing Solutions that’ll afford the Answer!
~ what say you, Edith?😘👍🏽✅
We need a follow up video for 2024!!!
Islam is the new calamity that would befall on Nigeria
Please the south should run away from the north 🤣😂😅
What is being practiced in Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, Saudi arabia, UAE, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait but to mention a few. It isn’t the religion of Islam, it is the culture and misunderstanding of the religion.
@@Eneroi Conservative branches of christians, muslims, and jews all seem to want big families.
Interviewer speak English clear and well❤❤