I tried FLAX SEED. No grinding, sifting, dust, etc. The seed mixed directly with the Amour Etch according to the instructions in this video does produce the dappled, water etched effect very nicely. You can get flax seed at your grocery store. People add flax seed to their morning cereal like granola, etc.
Great post Paul ... I have used acid many moons ago and too many issues working and disposing of chemicals. There used to be a "Fake" screen print ink that created a sand blast effect. I used it for signage on office glass doors and full size windows so people were aware of the glass. Be safe mate...
Thanks Ken! I don’t like working with HF acid. It’s too dangerous, so when the bottle I have runs out, I’ll use this method going forward. Hope you’re good mate!
Always a pleasure to watch, showing us how to make a basic entry level pieces, with some basic tools and accessible products, thank you so much. Even Paul's workspace is mainly his kitchen bench ha! outstanding!
Thanks very much! It is a shame but it’s too risky sharing a process that’s so dangerous. This way is more expensive but so much safer that the traditional method
Thanks Stuart. You can if you just want etched glass, but the finish is too smooth for glue chipping. It also won't touch the backing paint of a mirror so you'd need a sandblaster for that. Great stuff though and the etched finish is lovely
Thank you for these tutorials. I’ve had an idea that I’d like to try out and this tutorial is such a great start. Have you done an etch on the back of the mirror? I was going to use a mix of screen printing and the mirror spray paint but I couldn’t find the plain glass and thought a more cost effective way could be to etch the back of the mirror. I won’t be using the HC acid but similar product that you are using here, as a test. I’m a complete newbie to all this glass work and can’t wait to get started with it.
Yes, after some more research it does appear that I would need to strip the paint first then somehow remove the silver finish. I’ve read somewhere that Ferric Chloride or even bleach should work with silver based glass. Do you have any experience on this and what would you recommend?
‘A pretty cool solution!’ Nice chemistry pun! Also, not having a sand blaster has kept me from experimenting more but with this information I feel super excited.
Now THIS is something I could try right away! I already have the Armor Etch and maybe I’ll try the rice suggestion or vermiculite. I might even try a double etch to see the effect (cleaning the glass in between). A sandblasting setup has eluded me for a year now, but this method has got my enthusiasm up! How does gilding look on etch? I’m sure I must have seen examples on FB, but I’m not remembering.
That’s awesome Ted, I’m so glad you’ll be able to make your first piece!! Let me know how you get on, I’m really looking forward to it. It’s been a long time coming my friend 😎 Gilding on acid etched glass looks amazing. Watch the intro to my first vid and you’ll see the ‘Ink & Paint Club’ sign that is just acid etched and gilded
Glad you're enjoying the vids! This won't work for glue chipping because the etch is too smooth for the glue to grip on to. This may be an alternative though: th-cam.com/video/jMZuSIynl94/w-d-xo.html
So you used black spray paint for the black areas? If so, does the solvent in the black spray paint not have any bad effects on the mirror effect paint that has already been sprayed?
Paul I enjoy the channel. I am a graphics designer and am trying my hand at glass chipping. I do not have a sand blaster but do have a laser engraver and my question is do you know if anyone that is etching glass has any success with the chipping on laser etched glass. Thank you for the channel.
Someone on the Facebook group tried it and had some success. I’ve never tried it so I don’t know whether it would achieve the same result as sandblasted glass
Great video and techniques again! I have a question : I cut vinyl, applied it to the reverse of a picture frames glass and sprayed it with the same mirror effect as you. For me, I sorted of "melted" the edge of the vinyl and bled through. Any ideas why ? Your edges look lovely and clean!
Could be the adhesive on the vinyl, I only use oracal 651 cause it's chemical based adhesive instead of water based like 641. If edge lifts that's why. I chemical silver all the time, never had a issue with lifting
The trick I used for this is to check the local goodwill and thrift shops. I go every weekend and come back with 2-3 new frames with glass that I can use from about $3-6 each.
@@VektorHaus Same here. If I can’t find vintage ones at goodwill, I’ll take a torch to a wooden frame, clean it with a bristle brush, and apply some finish.
никакое другое вещество кроме плавиковой кислоты HF не способно травить стекло. Ионы фтора присутствуют в пузырьке из других соединений в присутствии воды. Это только рекламный ход для начинающих
As a beginner I love the budget builds, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Very cool Paul, and easy! My Armour Etch arrived today. Can't wait to give this a try. Thanks for more great ideas.
Glad you're enjoying the vids! Have fun with the Armour Etch!! :D
Oh this is some kind the answer of big question how to make it w/o acid. Love this. Thank you!
Fantastic video, I've been wanting to use HF acid for so long now. But this looks like an amazing alternative. Thank you for the video mate
No worries, glad you found it useful!!
I tried FLAX SEED. No grinding, sifting, dust, etc. The seed mixed directly with the Amour Etch according to the instructions in this video does produce the dappled, water etched effect very nicely. You can get flax seed at your grocery store. People add flax seed to their morning cereal like granola, etc.
Thanks for sharing, I'll definitely be giving it a try!!
Great post Paul ... I have used acid many moons ago and too many issues working and disposing of chemicals. There used to be a "Fake" screen print ink that created a sand blast effect. I used it for signage on office glass doors and full size windows so people were aware of the glass.
Be safe mate...
Thanks Ken! I don’t like working with HF acid. It’s too dangerous, so when the bottle I have runs out, I’ll use this method going forward.
Hope you’re good mate!
Always a pleasure to watch, showing us how to make a basic entry level pieces, with some basic tools and accessible products, thank you so much. Even Paul's workspace is mainly his kitchen bench ha! outstanding!
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it! :D
you are a great teacher, an expert artist, I really like what you do. I want to know more. Thank you for everything.❤
Thanks very much!!
Absolutely love this channel Paul, I really want to get into this I’ve looked at it for years but the info was never there until you come along!
Thanks Josh I really appreciate it! Let me know if you need any help when you get started 😎
Great effect! This process is something I would feel comfortable doing. Thanks for sharing!
You’re very welcome 😎
thanks for covering this! After about a full year of gilding I feel comfortable enough to give this task a go!
btw beard is looking killer dude!
Cheers mate! The beard is history now 😢 shaved it off for Valentine’s Day 😎
Another beautiful result, Paul.
Thanks again for a great video!
Thanks Mark!!
Wow awesome! Thanks for sharing. I will be trying this...
Thanks!!
Love this video! Thanks, can't wait to get my armour etch.
Cheers Herve! Glad you enjoyed it mate!
hey, great video! I tried it with rice a few years back, so cool you had almost the same thinking but with lentils! nice texture, well done
Thanks very much!
That looks great. Much more accessible than hydrofluoric acid, which I believe could eat your arm off😱
Thanks Mark! I do hate using HF acid so this will be my preferred method once by bottle of HF is empty :)
It's a shame you removed the original acid etching video, but this is just genius as a way to make the technique safer and more accessible.
Thanks very much! It is a shame but it’s too risky sharing a process that’s so dangerous. This way is more expensive but so much safer that the traditional method
I also like paul's channel. It is great. Thanks u
Thanks very much!!
Good video.
So, if armour etch, not diluted, makes a cloudy effect like sand blasting... could you use AE undiluted instead of sandblasting?
Thanks Stuart. You can if you just want etched glass, but the finish is too smooth for glue chipping. It also won't touch the backing paint of a mirror so you'd need a sandblaster for that. Great stuff though and the etched finish is lovely
Hi Happy Gilder can any thing be used like glass or wood chips to give it that look.
I haven’t tried it but wood is acid resistant so that might work.
Thank you for these tutorials. I’ve had an idea that I’d like to try out and this tutorial is such a great start.
Have you done an etch on the back of the mirror? I was going to use a mix of screen printing and the mirror spray paint but I couldn’t find the plain glass and thought a more cost effective way could be to etch the back of the mirror.
I won’t be using the HC acid but similar product that you are using here, as a test.
I’m a complete newbie to all this glass work and can’t wait to get started with it.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Unfortunately it won't work on the back of a mirror because mirror backing paint is acid resistant.
Yes, after some more research it does appear that I would need to strip the paint first then somehow remove the silver finish. I’ve read somewhere that Ferric Chloride or even bleach should work with silver based glass. Do you have any experience on this and what would you recommend?
‘A pretty cool solution!’ Nice chemistry pun!
Also, not having a sand blaster has kept me from experimenting more but with this information I feel super excited.
That’s awesome, let me know how you get on :D
Now THIS is something I could try right away! I already have the Armor Etch and maybe I’ll try the rice suggestion or vermiculite. I might even try a double etch to see the effect (cleaning the glass in between).
A sandblasting setup has eluded me for a year now, but this method has got my enthusiasm up! How does gilding look on etch? I’m sure I must have seen examples on FB, but I’m not remembering.
That’s awesome Ted, I’m so glad you’ll be able to make your first piece!! Let me know how you get on, I’m really looking forward to it. It’s been a long time coming my friend 😎
Gilding on acid etched glass looks amazing. Watch the intro to my first vid and you’ll see the ‘Ink & Paint Club’ sign that is just acid etched and gilded
If you left the mix on the glass longer than 35 mins would you get a deeper impression?
Incredible
Just curious, how did you come up with your measurement ratios of etch to water?
I'll never forget when I left my coat on the pickling bench in dental school. Burned the back clean off.
Hydrofluoric acid that is.
Bloody hell 😲
love your videos. if i were to use this method could i achieve chipped glass. i do not have a sand blaster so im trying to find a good alternative.
Glad you're enjoying the vids! This won't work for glue chipping because the etch is too smooth for the glue to grip on to. This may be an alternative though: th-cam.com/video/jMZuSIynl94/w-d-xo.html
Очень интересно видио. Будет чем занятся на выходных! Привет с России . Спасобо за подробное видео👍
Glad you enjoyed it!!
So you used black spray paint for the black areas? If so, does the solvent in the black spray paint not have any bad effects on the mirror effect paint that has already been sprayed?
No it doesn’t, but the mirror spray is very aggressive if sprayed on most paints, so it’s best to get that stuff down first
@@happygilder It looks like it didn't harm the black when you added the antiqued silver last so that's good.
@@questort you have to do really thin coats, otherwise it eats the other paint away
Awesome!!
Thanks!!
Have you tried damar varnish and stippling or forking yet? That works pretty pretty pretty nice too
I haven’t tried it yet but I’m definitely going to. I’ve seen some lovely effects with damar so I’m keen to experiment 😎
@@happygilder SERIA MUY INTERESANTE VER UN VIDEO CON ESTE PROCESO! IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE A VIDEO WITH THIS PROCESS!
Quick question, with HF you need to sand blast it like glue chipping. Would you consider it good practice to do the same with this process?
You don’t need to sandblast glass for acid etching. It works best on clear glass
Can the paste be re-used?
Do you use plate or regular glass?
I use plate glass :)
Paul I enjoy the channel. I am a graphics designer and am trying my hand at glass chipping. I do not have a sand blaster but do have a laser engraver and my question is do you know if anyone that is etching glass has any success with the chipping on laser etched glass. Thank you for the channel.
Someone on the Facebook group tried it and had some success. I’ve never tried it so I don’t know whether it would achieve the same result as sandblasted glass
Thank you I will let you know if I get something figured out
Great video and techniques again! I have a question : I cut vinyl, applied it to the reverse of a picture frames glass and sprayed it with the same mirror effect as you. For me, I sorted of "melted" the edge of the vinyl and bled through. Any ideas why ? Your edges look lovely and clean!
Thank you! The mirror paint is very corrosive so you have to apply it in lots of very thin coats rather than an even coating like most spray paints
@@happygilder thanks for that. I'll be more conservative with my application next time.
Could be the adhesive on the vinyl, I only use oracal 651 cause it's chemical based adhesive instead of water based like 641. If edge lifts that's why. I chemical silver all the time, never had a issue with lifting
@@scotthendricks79 ok - thanks - I will look at that. I just buy the cheapest.
Do you have a video about framing or making custom frames for the glass?
Unfortunately framing isn’t one of my strong points so I won’t be making a video about that anytime soon 😄
The trick I used for this is to check the local goodwill and thrift shops. I go every weekend and come back with 2-3 new frames with glass that I can use from about $3-6 each.
@@VektorHaus
Same here. If I can’t find vintage ones at goodwill, I’ll take a torch to a wooden frame, clean it with a bristle brush, and apply some finish.
for how long you leave the acid on the glass?
35 min
Amazing, and cheap too
Cheers!
You should always put acid into water. Probably not a big deal here but it's dangerous.
Thanks man. When I use HF acid I always add it to water so it doesn’t spit. I should probably do the same with the armour etch
I bet rice would be a good substitute also.
I reckon you’re right! :D
It is only dangerous if a person is stupid.
Agreed :D
никакое другое вещество кроме плавиковой кислоты HF не способно травить стекло. Ионы фтора присутствуют в пузырьке из других соединений в присутствии воды. Это только рекламный ход для начинающих