So I know youre super unlikely to read this but I wanted to say it. This channel absolutely made my career. Back in 2017 i was a college student and a Linux hobbyist. I started watching your tutorials to learn as mucb as I could simply because I was very interested in it. Fast forward to summer 2018 and I get an offer from a security firm based on my Linux knowlege! The bachelors degree may have gotten me the interview, but the skills I learned from you won me this awesome job. I have amazing employers who are honest and transparent, my salary has increased an average of 15% per year consistently. Im the Linux SME for a team of Engineers that I manage and I can trace all of that success directly back to tutoriaLinux. And even if you never read it I wanted to thank you for that.
You're the best man! I signed up for your first course on Udemy when it first came out and you were so helpful and sent me very encouraging emails. This guy is the best.
i started my first job as full stack developer and got offer of $2,629.58 (1.92 lakh) per year . i worked there for almost 1.3 year and after that i started givings interviews and after that i got selected in a company they asked me what's your expectation i told them $6,847.86 (5 lakh ) per year. but they offered me $ 7,121.77 (5.2 lakh) per year . that hit me hard and happily i resigned my old company and joined this company :)
this is a great topic for techs and sys admins and I whole-heartedly agree, MAKE THEM PAY YOU WHAT YOU'RE WORTH. Others in the industry suffer when you don't hold your ground on compensation. Many senior admins are now making six figures or more per year. These are usually seasoned systems engineers and admins who understand most aspects of design build models and practices and how to support the systems and the environments they operate in. A mid-level skilled person should be in the $75-$90K per year and junior admins ahould be in the $55-$70K. When should you accept a little less? When the benefits and work-life balance of the company are strong. But If you're working as a contractor or as a second party consultant where the benefits are waning, DEMAND TOP DOLLAR. More than likely they will be prodding you to work extra time etc. So YOU ARE WORTH IT. You'll never be able to recoup the extra time taken from you.
I was teetering on whether or not I should supplement my current Linux education with you hands-on course. After this video, I'm sold. Having spent 15years hoping from support center to support center, with no certs, has my head banging against the help desk ceiling. I chose Linux, after listening to another TH-camr's interview with Shawn Powers and devouring copious amounts of content you produce. Thanks for all that you do. I'll circle back when I land that sysadmin position that'll turn things around for me professionally!
Here's a good one. If you give a number and they immediately say "ok" or "that works" then you went too low. If you stay there for a length of time, you have just cut yourself off at the knees for several years. Thus the math. Always know your number for the locality and national average by position. Hint: some of these numbers are being skewed relative to the current "cough" situation. Now relative to stats...... you will all be smoothed..... But you knew that would come if you paid attention in macro econ (economies of scale) and stats.
First Tech Job out of college (Dec 2000), the Network Ops Center was hiring in 18 new hires. All offered the same initial offer. In my final semester of college, we took a resume, interview and salary negotiation course (Thank you DeVry)! Rather than accepting the first offer (+ signing bonus) I countered with a $5k range which was $3-8k over what they offered. They returned and met my low end of the salary and met the high-end on the signing bonus. Years later, some others in the hiring group got to chatting and it turns out I was the only one who negotiated. The other important thing to add here, once you're hired in, it's easy to get locked into their pay progression model, which likely will not be as competitive as the initial hiring opportunity.
Hello, i worked 1 year as a intern, and well a pretty common thing here in brazil is, I was NOT working as an intern at all, from the very first day i was doing a full employment job, only diference i worked 30 hours a week and got paid less.I know it's not right and all.But i have 34 years my second job on it and still finishing graduation so i took it.Thing is though, now i have been "promoted" after much negotiation on my part as a regular, and the senior guy on my position just moved to another team, so i am basically assuming a LOT of responsabilities and work from the senior guy, i end up staying with 70% os his activities, which is super demanding for me. My initial offer was 2,800 a month.Which is 33.600 a year.I got already vibes from my manager that i should be really pleasead to have been admited, but still i am definitley being paid less then i should, and somehow i must feel grateful, lol.Anyway next year i intend on asking for a rise, How would you say i should approach this? *Just litte background, everyone compliments me on my job, like i do it well.I i've learned a lot and i think i am fufilling the position of the senior guy reasonably well, ofc it is not very complex position, i work with IAM, Identity and access management on IBM.I completed 1 year of internship on june this year, and got hire on jully.
Should I negotiate my salary with 0 experience in IT meaning my first IT job as junior cloud engineer/junior system administrator or wait until I'm 1-2 years in my career, first?
It’s possible that you won’t get much more than the initial offer, but I have seen even junior engineers get several thousand over the initial offer, with basically zero experience (although not zero skill).
Generally good advice, Dave -- especially if going to work for huge $Businesses. It's always worked for me. If however, you're wanting to work in Academia or in the public sector, you are not necessarily just in it "for the money" on its own. The best jobs I've had haven't necessarily been the best paid but were without doubt the most satisfying, ultimately, not only to myself but for the people I was helping. Horses for courses, I guess, as Programming, DBA or sysadmin jobs aren't an actual "vocation".
Yeah, money has never been the most important thing for me, but I want to encourage people to ask for it anyway - it certainly doesn’t hurt! For some people the technical work can itself be a vocation - building an incredibly complex system from the ground up can be quite rewarding. For me, it’s in helping new people get started, making teams run really well, helping people feel good about their work, and generally helping organizations that make the world a better place with more leverage than I can muster alone. Definitely agree with you there!
i've been doing apps support on Linux platforms for a while now and studied aws, linux sys-admin, jenkins, ansible, puppet, terraform, git, Kubernetes etc in my own to allow me to gain the skills for a devops engineer ... but I find myself asking for less even less than what I'm earning now just to secure a place doing the devops stuffs ? is that bad ? i feel like if you ask for more they expect your knowledge & experience to also be higher and the tech test will also be harder ....but anyway I'm starting to give up as it seems like companies (in the UK) prefer devops that comes from a software development background .... PS: will you be doing anymore course on Udemy ?
I would not expect your salary to go *down* as you move into devops. Actually I would expect it to dramatically rise, based on what you said. Time to move to a new company, maybe?
What's your experience with people coming from academia into tech. I have quite a bit of experience but not in industry. Any advice other than pushing for ten percent over the initial offer?
I appreciate that you’re trying to generalize from the video, but I don’t think it’s as simple as 10%. I’d familiarize myself with the glassdoor salaries for the job/industry/location/experience and then target the high end of that curve when discussing salary. Working with a recruiter can help you tremendously as well. One of my friends just moved from a lower-level to a higher-level support gig and got herself a 20k+ raise (dramatically more than 10k above the initial offer). Another thing I’d recommend is distilling some of your academic experience into “projects” that you practice giving elevator pitches for in the mirror. This will let you have an analogue for the “improved build pipeline for 20% developer time savings” pitches that other applicants will have prepared.
I made a video a while back that included some negotiating tactics for tech interviews - if you’re looking for specific techniques that’s probably a good place to start.
make a video on best books(/blogs/articles) written by industry experts on embedded linux and device drivers which are not that much popular but are really good which gives knowlede about industries. dont tell about oreilly books..or standard books that every one say for example LDD3
I don't really work in the embedded/device driver/kernel programming space, so I'm a really bad person to ask for recommendations about this :-D. Sorry! I prefer to stick to what I have experience with, otherwise this channel would just turn into another "top 10" soup.
Start here: 1.- (yes, the first was published by Oreilly, but it's written by the God of the Linux Kernel, and the entire book is there to download, for free. www.kroah.com/lkn/ 2.- www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-embedded-distro/index.html 3.- I dug out the author's pic and intro to his awesome series on device drivers from the web archive, but the entire series, made into an excellent book is also there to download both in text and pdf formats. web.archive.org/web/20170107202540/www.linux.org:80/threads/the-linux-kernel-drivers.4205/ www.linux.org/threads/linux-kernel-the-series-free-ebook-download.9865/ www.linux.org/threads/linux-kernel-the-series-pdf.10062/ www.linux.org/threads/the-linux-kernel-series-every-article.10640/ All of these are excellent resources.
Book mentioned in the video:
Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It
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So I know youre super unlikely to read this but I wanted to say it. This channel absolutely made my career.
Back in 2017 i was a college student and a Linux hobbyist. I started watching your tutorials to learn as mucb as I could simply because I was very interested in it.
Fast forward to summer 2018 and I get an offer from a security firm based on my Linux knowlege! The bachelors degree may have gotten me the interview, but the skills I learned from you won me this awesome job. I have amazing employers who are honest and transparent, my salary has increased an average of 15% per year consistently.
Im the Linux SME for a team of Engineers that I manage and I can trace all of that success directly back to tutoriaLinux. And even if you never read it I wanted to thank you for that.
Hey! Awesome to hear that; congratulations! You clearly did the hard work to succeed. I hope you’re having fun!
You're the best man! I signed up for your first course on Udemy when it first came out and you were so helpful and sent me very encouraging emails.
This guy is the best.
Aw thanks, I appreciate that. I hope it was useful in the long run (and maybe even a fun way to learn, instead of a million dry tutorials in a row)!
i started my first job as full stack developer and got offer of $2,629.58 (1.92 lakh) per year . i worked there for almost 1.3 year and after that i started givings interviews and after that i got selected in a company they asked me what's your expectation i told them $6,847.86 (5 lakh ) per year. but they offered me $ 7,121.77 (5.2 lakh) per year . that hit me hard and happily i resigned my old company and joined this company :)
this is a great topic for techs and sys admins and I whole-heartedly agree, MAKE THEM PAY YOU WHAT YOU'RE WORTH. Others in the industry suffer when you don't hold your ground on compensation. Many senior admins are now making six figures or more per year. These are usually seasoned systems engineers and admins who understand most aspects of design build models and practices and how to support the systems and the environments they operate in. A mid-level skilled person should be in the $75-$90K per year and junior admins ahould be in the $55-$70K. When should you accept a little less? When the benefits and work-life balance of the company are strong. But If you're working as a contractor or as a second party consultant where the benefits are waning, DEMAND TOP DOLLAR. More than likely they will be prodding you to work extra time etc. So YOU ARE WORTH IT. You'll never be able to recoup the extra time taken from you.
I was teetering on whether or not I should supplement my current Linux education with you hands-on course. After this video, I'm sold. Having spent 15years hoping from support center to support center, with no certs, has my head banging against the help desk ceiling. I chose Linux, after listening to another TH-camr's interview with Shawn Powers and devouring copious amounts of content you produce. Thanks for all that you do. I'll circle back when I land that sysadmin position that'll turn things around for me professionally!
Here's a good one. If you give a number and they immediately say "ok" or "that works" then you went too low. If you stay there for a length of time, you have just cut yourself off at the knees for several years. Thus the math. Always know your number for the locality and national average by position. Hint: some of these numbers are being skewed relative to the current "cough" situation.
Now relative to stats...... you will all be smoothed..... But you knew that would come if you paid attention in macro econ (economies of scale) and stats.
First Tech Job out of college (Dec 2000), the Network Ops Center was hiring in 18 new hires. All offered the same initial offer. In my final semester of college, we took a resume, interview and salary negotiation course (Thank you DeVry)! Rather than accepting the first offer (+ signing bonus) I countered with a $5k range which was $3-8k over what they offered. They returned and met my low end of the salary and met the high-end on the signing bonus. Years later, some others in the hiring group got to chatting and it turns out I was the only one who negotiated. The other important thing to add here, once you're hired in, it's easy to get locked into their pay progression model, which likely will not be as competitive as the initial hiring opportunity.
Hello, i worked 1 year as a intern, and well a pretty common thing here in brazil is, I was NOT working as an intern at all, from the very first day i was doing a full employment job, only diference i worked 30 hours a week and got paid less.I know it's not right and all.But i have 34 years my second job on it and still finishing graduation so i took it.Thing is though, now i have been "promoted" after much negotiation on my part as a regular, and the senior guy on my position just moved to another team, so i am basically assuming a LOT of responsabilities and work from the senior guy, i end up staying with 70% os his activities, which is super demanding for me.
My initial offer was 2,800 a month.Which is 33.600 a year.I got already vibes from my manager that i should be really pleasead to have been admited, but still i am definitley being paid less then i should, and somehow i must feel grateful, lol.Anyway next year i intend on asking for a rise, How would you say i should approach this?
*Just litte background, everyone compliments me on my job, like i do it well.I i've learned a lot and i think i am fufilling the position of the senior guy reasonably well, ofc it is not very complex position, i work with IAM, Identity and access management on IBM.I completed 1 year of internship on june this year, and got hire on jully.
Alan Simas get a new job. Never accept added responsibility without them opening the pocket book.
its a new trend, jump for 70, jump again for 30, salary doubled, in just 3 months, new trend
Should I negotiate my salary with 0 experience in IT meaning my first IT job as junior cloud engineer/junior system administrator or wait until I'm 1-2 years in my career, first?
It’s possible that you won’t get much more than the initial offer, but I have seen even junior engineers get several thousand over the initial offer, with basically zero experience (although not zero skill).
Depends whether you have real skills or not.
@@tutoriaLinux thanks, say no more! 🕴🏿
Generally good advice, Dave -- especially if going to work for huge $Businesses. It's always worked for me. If however, you're wanting to work in Academia or in the public sector, you are not necessarily just in it "for the money" on its own. The best jobs I've had haven't necessarily been the best paid but were without doubt the most satisfying, ultimately, not only to myself but for the people I was helping.
Horses for courses, I guess, as Programming, DBA or sysadmin jobs aren't an actual "vocation".
Yeah, money has never been the most important thing for me, but I want to encourage people to ask for it anyway - it certainly doesn’t hurt! For some people the technical work can itself be a vocation - building an incredibly complex system from the ground up can be quite rewarding. For me, it’s in helping new people get started, making teams run really well, helping people feel good about their work, and generally helping organizations that make the world a better place with more leverage than I can muster alone. Definitely agree with you there!
No one said « just » for the money. This a limiting belief to stay « just « poor
TLDW: negotiate your salary.
Awesome advise as always! Can you do this for internships as well?
Flair and grace David.? You are awesome Awesomeness is all we can expect from each other you taught me that
I was trying to listen to fast buck Friday by Jefferson starship bought Dave came up I am not ashamed
i've been doing apps support on Linux platforms for a while now and studied aws, linux sys-admin, jenkins, ansible, puppet, terraform, git, Kubernetes etc in my own to allow me to gain the skills for a devops engineer ... but I find myself asking for less even less than what I'm earning now just to secure a place doing the devops stuffs ? is that bad ? i feel like if you ask for more they expect your knowledge & experience to also be higher and the tech test will also be harder ....but anyway I'm starting to give up as it seems like companies (in the UK) prefer devops that comes from a software development background ....
PS: will you be doing anymore course on Udemy ?
It’s bad, specially as great devops ppl are rare
I would not expect your salary to go *down* as you move into devops. Actually I would expect it to dramatically rise, based on what you said. Time to move to a new company, maybe?
What's your experience with people coming from academia into tech. I have quite a bit of experience but not in industry. Any advice other than pushing for ten percent over the initial offer?
I appreciate that you’re trying to generalize from the video, but I don’t think it’s as simple as 10%. I’d familiarize myself with the glassdoor salaries for the job/industry/location/experience and then target the high end of that curve when discussing salary. Working with a recruiter can help you tremendously as well. One of my friends just moved from a lower-level to a higher-level support gig and got herself a 20k+ raise (dramatically more than 10k above the initial offer). Another thing I’d recommend is distilling some of your academic experience into “projects” that you practice giving elevator pitches for in the mirror. This will let you have an analogue for the “improved build pipeline for 20% developer time savings” pitches that other applicants will have prepared.
I made a video a while back that included some negotiating tactics for tech interviews - if you’re looking for specific techniques that’s probably a good place to start.
Thanks I'll take a look!
make a video on best books(/blogs/articles) written by industry experts on embedded linux and device drivers which are not that much popular but are really good which gives knowlede about industries.
dont tell about oreilly books..or standard books that every one say for example LDD3
I don't really work in the embedded/device driver/kernel programming space, so I'm a really bad person to ask for recommendations about this :-D. Sorry! I prefer to stick to what I have experience with, otherwise this channel would just turn into another "top 10" soup.
@@tutoriaLinux ok.
Start here:
1.- (yes, the first was published by Oreilly, but it's written by the God of the Linux Kernel, and the entire book is there to download, for free.
www.kroah.com/lkn/
2.- www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-embedded-distro/index.html
3.- I dug out the author's pic and intro to his awesome series on device drivers from the web archive, but the entire series, made into an excellent book is also there to download both in text and pdf formats.
web.archive.org/web/20170107202540/www.linux.org:80/threads/the-linux-kernel-drivers.4205/
www.linux.org/threads/linux-kernel-the-series-free-ebook-download.9865/
www.linux.org/threads/linux-kernel-the-series-pdf.10062/
www.linux.org/threads/the-linux-kernel-series-every-article.10640/
All of these are excellent resources.
@@Kaio7 okay i will go through it ...thanks