bleed does accurate dmg now, so Enforcers axe does 7% more damage per m1. Hit for hit, it's better (I'll walk you through the math) Things to note: -"Scaled Damage" is max proficiency, 100 hvy -Proficiency adds 6.5% bonus TO WEAPON'S SCALING per point (39% max) -Each point into hvy gives [weapon's scaling x 0.01] extra damage per point -Power 20 multiplies your dmg by 19.98 to monsters -Not including enchants -Deepwoken rounds TO THE NEAREST TENTH IN BETWEEN STEPS -This is m1 for m1 -0% dvm -Bleed Is calculated as a 32% dmg boost on top of base damage (important, based off of how bleed is shown from weapon damage values) as opposed to a 30% boost which most seem to believe -I will be assuming you have speed boost active at all times many ways to. Parrying, dodging, venting, assasination, kills, mantras, and even secret family recipe thing thay go boom so speed demon should always be proccing -Evanspear Handaxe does 25 dmg (7.8 bleed) with 9.5 scaling (32.8 full) -Enforcers Axe does 26 dmg (8.3 bleed) with 10 scaling (34.3 full) You can already see how this is going to go, the base damage is worse on Evanspear already. > base means > final with the same Multipliers Scaled dmg w Bleed: (0.00075 x {BaseDamage x Attribute Scaling x Attribute Level x [1 + (Proficiency x 0.065)]} + BaseDamage) × 1.32 Evanspear - (0.00075 x {25 x 9.5 x 100 x [1 + (6 x 0.065)]} + 25 × 1.32 = 65.7 dmg) Enforcers Axe- (0.00075 x {26 x 10 x 100 x [1 + (6 x 0.065)]} + 26 × 1.32) = 70.1 dmg PvE Scaled (power 20): Scaled dmg × 19.9 Evanspear - 1307.5 dmg Enforcers Axe - 1395 dmg That's a 7% dmg difference IN BASE! The 87.5 damage will scale up as you multiply! This is different from a 7% multiplier. (Explaining how % multiplier vs % increase works for people who cant comprehend) With a 7% Multiplier, the effects of such a "miniscule" increase would do next to nothing. But with a 7% dmg increase, it is an increase to the final dmg. If you do 1000 dmg a hit and have 100% Multipliers, an extra 10% Multiplier will essentially have an effect of a 5% increase to your dmg. To increase your dmg by 10% you would need 20% more Multiplier.
@@saulgoodman9449 exactly, u don’t need a specific bell to get near high waves, even if you did then it wouldn’t ruin the point of it. Obviously smite and smoke screen and a few other PvP oriented bells would do shit but 🤷♂️
broodlord hits you -> you use bell -> half heal or ZERO heal cuz of All the dead gods -> 2 bars, no bell, cant run away cuz you getting a lot of stun by thunder monsters -> the broodlord use its jump -> you wipe.
Focus on the brutes -> get jumped by squibbos and get hit like crazy - > use payback and kill weaker mobs while spam m1ing -> run around while spamming ardour scream and m1s -> when bell is off cd then purposely get hit and repeat -> you win.
Adding the diluvian was a bad idea. When they rework pve so there isnt as big of a gap between pvp and pve builds in pve power then diluvian is gonna have to be reworked
@@breadbug. the pve rework was his idea but what i’m saying is that this will mean the diluvian becomes accessible for everyone, which is easy god loot. Because of this the diluvian would have to be reworked. Not sure if aga mentioned the diluvian part
why doesnt he click h? for ardour? wouldnt he have had more (posture) damage ? or does the sream and ardour not stack? should i only be using the scream?
that many sinners for what? you do realize everytime you reroll it puts your current bell in the hand, meaning you can pick the same one and hope for different variants each time
bro every time i make it to wave 50 and use corrupt pay back it never heals me and its only on wave 50 too i get zero heals all the time. how do you heal
its called corrupted payback and it has 2 variants, the beam and the normal one witch is the same but no beam, basically corrupted payback deals the damage the mobs did to you but corrupted makes u HEAL so its basically op
guys my stats are like
33 monster armor
49 dvm
480 hp
and like 30-40 phys
bleed does accurate dmg now, so Enforcers axe does 7% more damage per m1. Hit for hit, it's better (I'll walk you through the math)
Things to note:
-"Scaled Damage" is max proficiency, 100 hvy
-Proficiency adds 6.5% bonus TO WEAPON'S SCALING per point (39% max)
-Each point into hvy gives [weapon's scaling x 0.01] extra damage per point
-Power 20 multiplies your dmg by 19.98 to monsters
-Not including enchants
-Deepwoken rounds TO THE NEAREST TENTH IN BETWEEN STEPS
-This is m1 for m1
-0% dvm
-Bleed Is calculated as a 32% dmg boost on top of base damage (important, based off of how bleed is shown from weapon damage values) as opposed to a 30% boost which most seem to believe
-I will be assuming you have speed boost active at all times many ways to. Parrying, dodging, venting, assasination, kills, mantras, and even secret family recipe thing thay go boom so speed demon should always be proccing
-Evanspear Handaxe does 25 dmg (7.8 bleed) with 9.5 scaling (32.8 full)
-Enforcers Axe does 26 dmg (8.3 bleed) with 10 scaling (34.3 full)
You can already see how this is going to go, the base damage is worse on Evanspear already. > base means > final with the same Multipliers
Scaled dmg w Bleed: (0.00075 x {BaseDamage x Attribute Scaling x Attribute Level x [1 + (Proficiency x 0.065)]} + BaseDamage) × 1.32
Evanspear - (0.00075 x {25 x 9.5 x 100 x [1 + (6 x 0.065)]} + 25 × 1.32 = 65.7 dmg)
Enforcers Axe- (0.00075 x {26 x 10 x 100 x [1 + (6 x 0.065)]} + 26 × 1.32) = 70.1 dmg
PvE Scaled (power 20): Scaled dmg × 19.9
Evanspear - 1307.5 dmg
Enforcers Axe - 1395 dmg
That's a 7% dmg difference IN BASE! The 87.5 damage will scale up as you multiply! This is different from a 7% multiplier. (Explaining how % multiplier vs % increase works for people who cant comprehend)
With a 7% Multiplier, the effects of such a "miniscule" increase would do next to nothing. But with a 7% dmg increase, it is an increase to the final dmg.
If you do 1000 dmg a hit and have 100% Multipliers, an extra 10% Multiplier will essentially have an effect of a 5% increase to your dmg. To increase your dmg by 10% you would need 20% more Multiplier.
Basically, Enforcers Axe is better for Hell Mode and Dilluvian
I don’t remember ordering a yappachino
hey, If it's on the house you might as well take it
@@cyanalt2738 this could perfectly be the best lie on the world if it wasnt correct
when they finna give mobs chronostasis
i will find you if this actually gets added
Please dont
@kzlmao agree
That woud be the stupidest ove change ever
this is a peak change permafreshies deserve to suffer
if those chests are mid i wonder whats good
literally
Sinners, more idols, godrolls, etc
Whats ur dvm and monster armour? Also why use blood thirsty and not vampirism?@@quodil9303
Sinner's ash
mooneyes tome 2 3 in a run is gud i think
wanna give me some pathfinder elites (with rizz)
the fact that you need such a specific bell to get anywhere near high waves in diluvian kinda defeats the point of the diluvian???
if u wanna solo sure, also what even is the point of diluvian
Diluvian isn't meant to be done solo
@@icedpmhella loot, you get like at least 7 relics from wave 50
@@thebruh5745 literally an option to enter it solo built into the games dialogue but go off ig
@@saulgoodman9449 exactly, u don’t need a specific bell to get near high waves, even if you did then it wouldn’t ruin the point of it. Obviously smite and smoke screen and a few other PvP oriented bells would do shit but 🤷♂️
grand feast buff is really nice
broodlord hits you -> you use bell -> half heal or ZERO heal cuz of All the dead gods -> 2 bars, no bell, cant run away cuz you getting a lot of stun by thunder monsters -> the broodlord use its jump -> you wipe.
Focus on the brutes -> get jumped by squibbos and get hit like crazy - > use payback and kill weaker mobs while spam m1ing -> run around while spamming ardour scream and m1s -> when bell is off cd then purposely get hit and repeat -> you win.
@@quodil9303 use bell -> get hit by broodlord -> dont heal -> wipe
@@ner0zaki835realize that for wave 50 you use bell for dps instead of healing -> kill everything by using the strategy -> beat wave 50
@@quodil9303 if the bell is for dps, why Deep community use it for heal?
whats ur dvm, monster armor, phys res, and hp?
Can you do a build showcase
Please drop the build I'm begging you
Adding the diluvian was a bad idea. When they rework pve so there isnt as big of a gap between pvp and pve builds in pve power then diluvian is gonna have to be reworked
Shitting out my glorious king aga's origional take
@@breadbug. the pve rework was his idea but what i’m saying is that this will mean the diluvian becomes accessible for everyone, which is easy god loot. Because of this the diluvian would have to be reworked. Not sure if aga mentioned the diluvian part
Diluvian is easy with almost every build if your not retarded
i did a dilu and my build got genuinely gutted, its actually sad how this pve nerf is going to make me create a completely new build
All it did was fix the bleed damage bug..
@@ilikechicken5524 yeah now i have to look up a new build that uses an enforcers axe, great!
@@DoneThatSeenThat my evanspear build is fine, idk whats wrong with yours
@@DoneThatSeenThat just switch weapons they have the same weapon requirement???? the only talent change would be maybe getting speed demon
@@DoneThatSeenThat speed demon only procs on a single mob so evan is still better for diluvian
gran sudaruska pve builds completely unaffected by the nerf watching silentheart metamancers weep over bleed nerfs:
i mean the nerfs arent that bad since silentheart builds were just THAT strong
@@crem444 I don't need anything more than my illegal silentheart gran build
@@ChronicDeepwokenAddict that sounds atrocious
They finna add dukes to dilluvian
Are you the v2.1 or 2.2 dragon king the 2.2 is intel
the guy called "brute lord" gives anti heal btw, its how 95% of ppl with corrupt pback die
Broodlord*
build is where? 👀
why doesnt he click h? for ardour? wouldnt he have had more (posture) damage ? or does the sream and ardour not stack?
should i only be using the scream?
You should be spamming scream. Scream activates ardour on mobs instead of coming from your player but they don’t stack
No point of using ardour on mobs, I only use it on humanoid npcs
I love beam payback
0:30 bell heals you when you have all the dead gods?????????
health packs
I got a health pack
build link?
how much dvm?
I just got an astral enchant stone, should I go speed demon enforcers axe or evanspear? Or should I wait to see if they change pve anymore
wait, for this next update to see
You should bank it and wait till the changes to pve
@@user-fy1gb3xg8i ok
@@maxvalor7023 Alr thanks
Wait for update but i recommend putting it on enforcers axe better critical more dmg
last time i did wave 50 i wiped cuz payback didnt heal me 3 times in a row
blud got non corrupt payback 😭
you either didn’t have corrupt payback or you had anti heal from broodlord. Use corrupt payback for dps rather than healing because of broodlord
@@quodil9303 i thought his atdg only halved your healing
I got literally nothing
yeah but it would also take like 20 idols and like 5 sinners ash for the laser corrupter payback
that many sinners for what? you do realize everytime you reroll it puts your current bell in the hand, meaning you can pick the same one and hope for different variants each time
5 sinners ash for 1 bell...
5 sinners ash??? U tripping bro
5 sinner ash is crazy lmao
@@iamayumpig yeah but u gotta get the laser variant lol so if ur unlucky it could take more than 5
People who cry about bleed nerf when they learn that mage brickwall exist
Mage brick wall is so mid 😭
how do you make your life go down at bit per bit? idk much of deepwoken
use viscosity enchant on one of your equipment
how do people just casually get corrupted payback
Used a sinners ash
What build
i was wondering why the fuck am i bleeding too much
the bug was only active in pve, not againts players
true
Skipper where is my astral I still don’t have it
How do people kill this many monsters when I cant even kill a bandit leader let alone a sharko
lol
curse of bloodthirsty, umbral knight, or grim for dilluvian?
cobt cuz it’s per hit
bro every time i make it to wave 50 and use corrupt pay back it never heals me and its only on wave 50 too i get zero heals all the time. how do you heal
U arent hitting them with ur laser beam
brute lord negates corrput pay back
focus on broodlord
on wave 50 use corrput payback as a damage counter not a heal
yes use it for dps until broodlord is dead
naah mf is healing with the anti heal on him wtf
So why are we not just using enforcers axe?
Cuz I don’t feel like it
The bleed change WASN'T A NERF, it was a bug fix
Fr lol people so dumb
I know but it nerfed pve
@@quodil9303 No it didn't. Literally nobody knew about the "bug". Everyone thought that the Evanspear bleed was normal, and they treated it as such.
"it was mid": has a chest with 6 relics and a 2 star PEN CBoW
idols n smiths are pretty common esp in diluvian
cbow doesn't even need an explanation that shit value IS COOKED 💔💔
cbow worth a gobletto
@@quodil9303 true....
Whats ur dvm and monster armor?
33 monster armor
49 dvm
480 hp
and like 30-40 phys
WHAT BELL IS THAT AND WHAT DOES THIS BELL DO CUZ ITS CRAZYYY
its called corrupted payback and it has 2 variants, the beam and the normal one witch is the same but no beam, basically corrupted payback deals the damage the mobs did to you but corrupted makes u HEAL so its basically op
is this the dragon king one from mr skipper
It is, he confirmed in a discord vc.
BUILD PLIS
it litterelly does ruin everything
it doesnt
@@TheKrakenBoss it makes dilu so much slower
@@duckworth27not by a lot
@@quodil9303 its like 1.277x faster which is alot when you grind it alot
@@quodil9303actually it is a lot, i have an m1 silentheart astral evanspear and it doesnt do as much as it used again, 10x more bleed is a lot
at some point ferry just better
Build and diluvian strat pls
dragon king v2.2 I’ll make a strat for diluvian video soon
better to use enforcerer axe over evan after bleed nerf no?
Probably
oh wow its so easy with corrupted payback! who knew you could just run around and use corrupted payback (this is sarcasm)
lol
everyone before still used cpayback tho
how much dvm and monster armro do you have?
33 ma 49 dvm
Now do it without bell
No thanks
CotBT or Umbral?
Cobt since umbral got nerfed
@@quodil9303 How? Was it a silent nerf? I didnt see in the patch
literally just play ice mage lol
Can u send me a build gran suda mage?
not a perfect jus bug
it's not a nerf it was a bug
Ik but it nerfed pve
what enchant are you using
curse of the bloodthirsty
Why you use coB
I don’t got astral
Now do it without corrupt payback😘
diy - do it yourself monkey boy, impossible
Physical corrupted sacred field☠️
even prebugged evanspear cant do it without cpayback
@@iamayumpig u could just simply search "deepwoken solo diluvian no corrupt payback". Some even do it without sacred field or any bell
No thanks
join lancelot pve division!
I did a few weeks ago and its so dry so i left
@@quodil9303this is actually so real (I build make-)
Buildd
yeah, nice hacks buddy...
Why are you here
REVERT EVANS
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