An overview of a selection of military belts using the Mills Equipment Company 'hook & loop' buckle design which was first patented in 1919. / riflemanmoore / riflemanmoore
Funny the 1908 belt system was adjustable, which we came back to using roll-pin buckles off old cargo straps with the 58 patttern belt. The plastic drill belt also came out in white for a while with brass clasp.
There's also the French pattern 1950 (not to confuse with the 1953 or 1950/53 with a Rapco square buckle) para belt ("ceinturon TAP Mle1950") very similar to the Belgian one but with only two rows of eyelets. I've seen also a Portuguese version, very similar to to French one but using web loops instead of metal ones.
Hi I want to get an original not a modern copy of the 1958 pattern belt where did you buy yours or do you know who sells originals. Many thanks, I really enjoy your videos
If you want one quickly and easily I advise eBay, if not then a militaria show should turn up plenty in varying condition. Glad to hear you enjoy the videos!
i am in sea cadets and we use a a white belt with the buckle cut from long rows of plastic cut to size this i worn white anklets wen carrying the cadet SA80 rifle on parade.
I remember those horrid plastic belts, we never really used them, when needed a stable belt would be worn or a '58 belt, rumour was to why was that it was said to rub holes in the jumpers of the Swift & Bold as unlike anyone else we moved around at 140 paces per minute!
Those green plastic belts were still being issued in the 90s, horrible belts and soon binned in favour of a spare 58 pattern belt or a stable belt. I think I only wore my one with my no2 dress after basic training. With the 95 pattern belts I do remember seeing some belts with a strip of velcro on the inside for adjustment. Not sure where they came from but I was issued the standard one, a length was just cut from the roll and it was thrown at me by the stores bod
Not so, though a common misconception, they are actually using 1937 Pattern but some of the pouches have the late quick-release closure which leads to the misidentification.
The Royal Navy PCS Belt is also a mills hook design but with chromed fittings
Indeed so.
Funny the 1908 belt system was adjustable, which we came back to using roll-pin buckles off old cargo straps with the 58 patttern belt. The plastic drill belt also came out in white for a while with brass clasp.
Karkee Web home - www.karkeeweb.com/
1919 Pattern - www.karkeeweb.com/1919main
RAF Officers Equipment - www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/officers/weo_raf
1925 Pattern - www.karkeeweb.com/1925main
1937 Pattern - www.karkeeweb.com/1937main
1944 Pattern - www.karkeeweb.com/1944main
1958 Pattern - www.karkeeweb.com/1958main
Thanks for sharing this tried and true design . If it works , don't change it 👍👏
Quite so! Glad you enjoyed.
Love me that hook and loop
I hear that.
Great video. Think i had that horrible green plasticy one in the cadets back in the late 70s
Many thanks!
There's also the French pattern 1950 (not to confuse with the 1953 or 1950/53 with a Rapco square buckle) para belt ("ceinturon TAP Mle1950") very similar to the Belgian one but with only two rows of eyelets. I've seen also a Portuguese version, very similar to to French one but using web loops instead of metal ones.
I have an East German utv belt and so far it seems like the buckle stays closed much more reliably when you wear the belt inside out.
Все гениальное просто ... пряжка!!!
Only one century, it seems like that design has been used for forever everywhere.
True indeed!
Funny I was thinking that myself it does seem forever.
when i got my p37 gear it came with an isreali mfg belt with hook & loop buckle. it looked like a p37 belt with eyelets down the middle.
How much do P1919 belts normally go for?
Great video. Thanks.
Many thanks!
Hi I want to get an original not a modern copy of the 1958 pattern belt where did you buy yours or do you know who sells originals. Many thanks, I really enjoy your videos
If you want one quickly and easily I advise eBay, if not then a militaria show should turn up plenty in varying condition. Glad to hear you enjoy the videos!
i am in sea cadets and we use a a white belt with the buckle cut from long rows of plastic cut to size this i worn white anklets wen carrying the cadet SA80 rifle on parade.
I remember those horrid plastic belts, we never really used them, when needed a stable belt would be worn or a '58 belt, rumour was to why was that it was said to rub holes in the jumpers of the Swift & Bold as unlike anyone else we moved around at 140 paces per minute!
That makes a lot of sense, I can well imagine it snagging and chewing a wooly pully to bits. Horrible stuff.
Hated the plastic belt soon got binned but some how I still have two in my collection!?
Subsequently acquired? I agree it is a horrible thing.
@@RiflemanMoore Na usual extra kit acquisition system ;-)
Ahah, of course! XD
Those green plastic belts were still being issued in the 90s, horrible belts and soon binned in favour of a spare 58 pattern belt or a stable belt. I think I only wore my one with my no2 dress after basic training. With the 95 pattern belts I do remember seeing some belts with a strip of velcro on the inside for adjustment. Not sure where they came from but I was issued the standard one, a length was just cut from the roll and it was thrown at me by the stores bod
Interesting to hear, I didn't realise they courlene belts were in use into the '90s.
Interesting. That sounds like the army though, for sure. Waste not want not.
The Iraqis also had a lot of 44-ish pattern webbing in use up to the 2003 invasion, seen any of that?
Indeed so, they used a clone of 1958 Pattern webbing as well.
How did the buckle not come undone?
Because it hooks securely together.
44 Pattern was used by 1st Airborne in Norway in 1945.
Not so, though a common misconception, they are actually using 1937 Pattern but some of the pouches have the late quick-release closure which leads to the misidentification.
The old 95 pattern working belt got binned when arriving at unit after training because it was a horrendous belt
That's certainly true.
And they're still used today for Australian ceremonial uniform.
Indeed, still pretty prevelant in many countries. As I say this video isn't comprehensive, I'm not sure how long it would end up being if it were!
As well as the British Army, in the RAF air training corps we still use the hook and loop working belt for our mtp greens.
Sliders, or to give them their proper name - Keepers.
Far superior to the keepers on M1956 webbing. I knew a corporal who took off the keepers and replaced them with the hook and loop.