This was so much fun to listen to!! It's really fun to hear other people be passionate about a story/character you wrote yourself thank you so much for taking the time to do this! I absolutely loved it and this makes me excited and happy to share more!!
I love the way you presented all of this! The latter portion may be conjecture, but it doesn't feel like it falls outside the realm of possibility within the bounds of the world.
Finally someone understand when vtubers make lore so deep that you question the background of it how is connected to the vtuber and i love how jowol make his lore so mysteriously that he can make up story lore that is deep that your hooked in to it👑
Okay, you cooked here omg. I think vtuber lore is so underrated. I really enjoyed the way you explained everything so thoroughly and continued to include information that supports your theory. THE LAYERS I SWEAR. I cannot wait to see more lore released. I definitely will be back if you make an updated one later. Awesome vid!
Thank you so so much!! I did my best to be as thorough and support all the ideas I had so I really appreciate that you saw and pointed that out! QuQ When the new lore is revealed I absolutely will be making an update
Excellent presentation and summary! You present some interesting ideas without reaching to far I feel. Something I've been curious about are the slimes at the mansion. Because of the Summer outfit vid, we know they exist in the setting. He's mentioned before that he simply "Found them in thee woods around the mansion." And that, for reasons he doesn't seem to know, they fashioned those wooden doll bodies to mimic The Doll. Almost makes it sound like something he witnessed, something that happened recently. They clearly care for him, but why? Do they care for Joel, or Damiya? Yes they represent the chat, but is there more in terms of story? Another thing I don't think we've gotten a clear yes/no on is if he exists in the same setting as the world being built for the Monster girl facts. He's mentioned that's a modern setting as well.
I think the doll's spirit simply was looking for the child, or possibly, its "soul", in a reincarnated form. Joel, the child, and the missing person all share quite similar haircuts, and, while the Nun form is an alternative universe, Joel in that video have brown/yellow eyes, just like the child (though brown eyes are common), but that does mean that... from the scenes we've seen of Joel, if counting the "nun" video of Joel as canon, he shares the same haircolour, an unkept version of the same hairstyle, and the same eyecolour as the child.
I do have a very prominent question ever since I’ve seen the lore video. That question is where the mansion is located. In the video, although I’m not sure if it was acting or not but, Joel seems the be able to get ‘tired’ or rather some sort of pain after a stream. This leads me to ask for the location of the mansion. Is this mansion close to the big city? Is so how come no one has decided to trespass into the mansion. And if it were very secluded considering how we have satellite view on maps how is it no one has questioned the existence of this mansion?
Its def close enough that Joel somehow got BACK to his old apartment and carried his pc the whole way back. So its in walking distance of some kind I imagine.
Very interesting, this is the first video I seen dedicated to vtuber lore. As someone who is interested in different vtuber lores (including jowols) nice, I like how much thought you put into the theories👍
👀 I loved to listen to your theories! And esp been wondering about the lil siluetthe shaping up here and there too, or well, been wondering about alot like you confirm: One know so little to nothing! Great theory video, fun to hear your toughts about it c: !
Awesome video Anna! It really is fun getting to see the break down of the lore videos little tidbits. I think your theory has a lot of merit. I always thought the first missing person looked similar to the kid in the painting, but the time difference between modern and victorian means it couldn't be the same person. Definitely looking forward to future lore videos and subsequent theory ones.
DUDE! That was awesome! Holy shit. After watching this I share your theory that the ghost is the doll, and raise you the theory, based on your Joel could look like the doll maker, what if Joel is distantly related to either the doll maker or the lady the doll is based on? 🤔 or, kinda like a Kagome/Kikyo kinda thing, what if he's the reincarnation of one of them? same soul no memories of previous lives 👀
a thing i'd like to add is i remember joel mentioning golems can sometimes just appear from an artist putting enough love into a creation. it could be possible the doll maker was an artist trying to grieve by crafting sculptures in the image of the departed. when one day one of these dolls began to move and act on it's own, and the dollmaker not fully understanding what was happening saw it as a second chance of sorts. not seeing the doll as it's own being may have pushed damiya to take on a more monstrous form in self defense.
I have a few questions that you dont have to answer just on my mind. 1 maybe the mansion is protected by magic so thats why no one else but who Jowol has invited cant find the mansion. 2 what happened to his body cause he went back to his apartment so how did he not know what happened to his body. Ill probably edit as i think of some questions sorry 3 how does the mansion have power and internet, like Joel just brings back his pc and boop plugs it in. 4 how did Joel know how to get back to his apartment so easy? 5 how is Joel getting food like he talks a lot about chicken nuggies for chat. 6 kinda thinking on how he interacts with other streamers mainly when they come in and really start/end stream how do ubers find it, like he has said ill order you an uber or how was the uber ride. Like huh youre deep in the forest supposedly. Man, people's lore is so cool.
This was so much fun to listen to!! It's really fun to hear other people be passionate about a story/character you wrote yourself thank you so much for taking the time to do this! I absolutely loved it and this makes me excited and happy to share more!!
Give us the lore 😁
I love the way you presented all of this! The latter portion may be conjecture, but it doesn't feel like it falls outside the realm of possibility within the bounds of the world.
Finally someone understand when vtubers make lore so deep that you question the background of it how is connected to the vtuber and i love how jowol make his lore so mysteriously that he can make up story lore that is deep that your hooked in to it👑
Two ways to kill a doll golem is by smashing its head or melting the entire thing
Okay, you cooked here omg.
I think vtuber lore is so underrated. I really enjoyed the way you explained everything so thoroughly and continued to include information that supports your theory. THE LAYERS I SWEAR. I cannot wait to see more lore released. I definitely will be back if you make an updated one later. Awesome vid!
Thank you so so much!! I did my best to be as thorough and support all the ideas I had so I really appreciate that you saw and pointed that out! QuQ When the new lore is revealed I absolutely will be making an update
Excellent presentation and summary! You present some interesting ideas without reaching to far I feel.
Something I've been curious about are the slimes at the mansion. Because of the Summer outfit vid, we know they exist in the setting. He's mentioned before that he simply "Found them in thee woods around the mansion." And that, for reasons he doesn't seem to know, they fashioned those wooden doll bodies to mimic The Doll. Almost makes it sound like something he witnessed, something that happened recently.
They clearly care for him, but why? Do they care for Joel, or Damiya? Yes they represent the chat, but is there more in terms of story?
Another thing I don't think we've gotten a clear yes/no on is if he exists in the same setting as the world being built for the Monster girl facts. He's mentioned that's a modern setting as well.
I think the doll's spirit simply was looking for the child, or possibly, its "soul", in a reincarnated form. Joel, the child, and the missing person all share quite similar haircuts, and, while the Nun form is an alternative universe, Joel in that video have brown/yellow eyes, just like the child (though brown eyes are common), but that does mean that... from the scenes we've seen of Joel, if counting the "nun" video of Joel as canon, he shares the same haircolour, an unkept version of the same hairstyle, and the same eyecolour as the child.
I was thinking the same thing when she was talking about why Spiral Eyes was following Joel!
I do have a very prominent question ever since I’ve seen the lore video. That question is where the mansion is located. In the video, although I’m not sure if it was acting or not but, Joel seems the be able to get ‘tired’ or rather some sort of pain after a stream.
This leads me to ask for the location of the mansion. Is this mansion close to the big city? Is so how come no one has decided to trespass into the mansion. And if it were very secluded considering how we have satellite view on maps how is it no one has questioned the existence of this mansion?
Its def close enough that Joel somehow got BACK to his old apartment and carried his pc the whole way back. So its in walking distance of some kind I imagine.
I do think that Spiral Eyes is the soul of the doll because if you look at the dolls eyes they are eerily close to spiral eyes.
I got into the community a few months ago and oh wow, i didnt even notice those details in the lore video
Very interesting, this is the first video I seen dedicated to vtuber lore. As someone who is interested in different vtuber lores (including jowols) nice, I like how much thought you put into the theories👍
Dann Anna! This was super interesting theory crafting. You have also a very nice voice. Good job!
Awww, Im happy you like my voice! Thank you very much!
👀 I loved to listen to your theories! And esp been wondering about the lil siluetthe shaping up here and there too, or well, been wondering about alot like you confirm: One know so little to nothing!
Great theory video, fun to hear your toughts about it c: !
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Awesome video Anna! It really is fun getting to see the break down of the lore videos little tidbits. I think your theory has a lot of merit. I always thought the first missing person looked similar to the kid in the painting, but the time difference between modern and victorian means it couldn't be the same person. Definitely looking forward to future lore videos and subsequent theory ones.
DUDE! That was awesome! Holy shit. After watching this I share your theory that the ghost is the doll, and raise you the theory, based on your Joel could look like the doll maker, what if Joel is distantly related to either the doll maker or the lady the doll is based on? 🤔 or, kinda like a Kagome/Kikyo kinda thing, what if he's the reincarnation of one of them? same soul no memories of previous lives 👀
a thing i'd like to add is i remember joel mentioning golems can sometimes just appear from an artist putting enough love into a creation. it could be possible the doll maker was an artist trying to grieve by crafting sculptures in the image of the departed. when one day one of these dolls began to move and act on it's own, and the dollmaker not fully understanding what was happening saw it as a second chance of sorts. not seeing the doll as it's own being may have pushed damiya to take on a more monstrous form in self defense.
OOOOH thats a really good take on it!!
I have a few questions that you dont have to answer just on my mind.
1 maybe the mansion is protected by magic so thats why no one else but who Jowol has invited cant find the mansion.
2 what happened to his body cause he went back to his apartment so how did he not know what happened to his body.
Ill probably edit as i think of some questions sorry
3 how does the mansion have power and internet, like Joel just brings back his pc and boop plugs it in.
4 how did Joel know how to get back to his apartment so easy?
5 how is Joel getting food like he talks a lot about chicken nuggies for chat.
6 kinda thinking on how he interacts with other streamers mainly when they come in and really start/end stream how do ubers find it, like he has said ill order you an uber or how was the uber ride. Like huh youre deep in the forest supposedly.
Man, people's lore is so cool.
I just realized how did no one catch Joel going back to his apartment he's a 6'1 doll huh
I’d love to see more videos on vtuber lore 💗