Dota 2 Ability Draft - Ability Tier List - HWP Podcast Episode 2

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  • @tacogodboomdogg
    @tacogodboomdogg 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just finished the video, and there's a lot to like. W list overall.

  • @I_play_io_cause_he_cute
    @I_play_io_cause_he_cute หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cool content, excited to see more

    • @HWPAbilityDraft
      @HWPAbilityDraft  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! We'll be putting up more videos this week. Stay tuned!

  • @tinymarshable
    @tinymarshable 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with most of your picks, but some of them I find a bit questionable. The main ones I find questionable are:
    1. You are overvaluing Coup (pronounced coo) by a large amount. It's one of the lowest win rate abilities in the game. A single point in blade dance is a bigger dps increase than a single point in coup.
    2. I find it crazy you value feral impulse so highly when compared with Devour. WIth the correct creep consumed, devour and feral impulse are nearly identical abilities, with devour providing a bigger damage bonus, a sizable GPM boost, and more utility.
    3. Black hole doesn't deserve to be first pick/deny territory imo.

    • @TheGlenn8
      @TheGlenn8 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah that Coup rating is crazy. Coup should be a third pick the majority of games. Wasting an ult slot on a crit that's like worse than most non-ult crits is crazy. If there's any other crit in the draft you should pick it over Coup 99% of the time. Coup should also just NEVER be first picked. There's always something better than it. And it should only ever be second picked if there are like 2 carry heroes in the game and you already have the good carry abilities from the other one and Coup's all that's left. To add insult to injury, coup shard is utter garbage if you're a ranged hero.
      Also wild that they put coup over Fervor. Fervor is like waaaay better than coup.

  • @Gustavo-ui2bi
    @Gustavo-ui2bi หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whoever is in charge of the thumbnails, YOU ROCK

    • @HWPAbilityDraft
      @HWPAbilityDraft  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, Gus! I hope you enjoy my Dota-fied memes.

  • @TheGlenn8
    @TheGlenn8 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The reason why defensive passives like dispersion have such a high winrate is because you don't have to do anything to make them work.

  • @TheGlenn8
    @TheGlenn8 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Personally I think channeled abilities always are a little worse than they seem because channeling is counter synergy with attacking and mobility and casting other spells.

  • @tacogodboomdogg
    @tacogodboomdogg 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How is Divine Favor griefing? You just pick as a last pick as a safelane support, and bring a headdress to lane and make your carry survivable af.

  • @HeavensBane53
    @HeavensBane53 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Demonic Conversions in griefing tier....really? I confess I've never drafted it in AD but that's only because it's not an ability I find especially fun; from my experience with it playing as Enigma I would say that spell is quite strong. So long as the enemy laner(s) don't have the spells to quickly clear them (and In AD they often won't) it's an oppressive laning spell and even without scaling from Enigma's talents it's still a solid farming tool. That spell alone makes Enigma an effective zoo hero and with how snowbally AD can be i feel like the value of zoo should go up. I could see putting it in the situational tier, since it's an early game focused spell that flops if the enemy has effective counters, but any lower feels like its underselling just how potent the eidolons are. Hell, I feel like they'd be even better in AD, since you could get them on a higher HP hero than enigma to make them tankier and get more lockdown spells to hold people down while they kill them.
    Divine Favor as bottom of griefing tier also seems a bit odd cause being able to give an ally 20 armor will almost always be useful, especially with how much people love passive fueled right click builds in AD, and on the rare occasion you get a heal draft the heal amp is at least a decent bonus. If nothing else you can pick it up late on a support build and make some use out of mek and the armor to help keep the carry alive, and I've certainly had to settle for worse as a last pick support skill before.
    Disseminate was the other one I feel might be lower than it probably should be. In this case I have very little experience with the skill, since I've only played SD once since the skill was reworked and I've certainly never drafted it, but a spell with an up to 35% damage amp + a weird dispersion/fatal bonds esque effect just conceptually sounds like something you could get some good mileage out of. It's another spell where I can think back to numerous past drafts where I absolutely would have taken it over a spell in a higher tier.
    I am glad to see essence shift not being put in instapick (even if it usually is instapicked) though. I've been in games where there wasn't a single hero that could really make use of it, only for it to be snatched up instantly anyways and end up kinda ruining that person's draft when they tried too hard to build around it. Still, with how utterly absurd it is on the right heroes I don't think it could go anywhere lower than first/deny pick, no matter how overrated it might be.

  • @lees4416
    @lees4416 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wth is this disruption rating? You ALWAYS pick a stun over it and it's not even that much different from astral, arguably even worse, illusions don't do THAT much
    You overrated fortune's end too. It's low 2-4 under a lot of stuns

  • @PombaoDumau
    @PombaoDumau หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will forever die on the hill that essence shift is extremely overrated.

    • @HWPAbilityDraft
      @HWPAbilityDraft  หลายเดือนก่อน

      We agree! If it's taken on a hero model that doesn't let you get many hits off in a fight, its very disappointing.

    • @magnontaur
      @magnontaur หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HWPAbilityDraft It's a weird spell to rate, because it's kinda broken/instant pick material with those 5-6 ranged agi heroes like gyro luna medusa viper drow etc, but other than those it's kinda mid, it's quite overrated on agi melee imo with the exception of like very rare super broken melee builds

    • @atknbal3319
      @atknbal3319 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats a very low pace skill i dont like it unless with a pairing