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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- The iconic speech towards the end of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty now edited with some relevant imagery.
Was really inspired to edit this by these two videos that really analyzed the speech:
(by Max Derrat)
• The Most Profound Mome...
(by LogosSteve)
• The Most Profound Mome...
Be sure to check out these two video breakdowns of the speech which truly inspired me to edit this:
(by Max Derrat) th-cam.com/video/jIYBod0ge3Y/w-d-xo.html
(by LogosSteve) th-cam.com/video/6V_HzEPHFYE/w-d-xo.html
2022: The media accused Kojima himself of assassinating Shinzo Abe. It’s almost terrifying how well this scene aged.
THIS. kek.
WHAT? Any source on that?
@@PrekiFromPoland those are very old, but basically some french news said that the assassin of Shinzo Abe looked alike Kojima and blame him for that
@@AzumarillConGafasBv We reached a point where stuff like this happens. Society really fell…
@@AzumarillConGafasBv If I remember correctly, what happened was that some trolls were posting online talking about the assassin and included a picture of Kojima, and that French news station didn't bother to look into it and assumed that was the assassin.
The scary thing isnt that this nails the head these days but rather that this speech was created 2001.
Russian invasion, misinformation, cyber war, fake news, damn boy
1998 actually. This was written back in 98, but we didn’t get to hear it as a public until 2001
Yeah it is interesting. I bet nobody excepting it to come true but it did come true, of course it did because it was fate.
@@RavenGamingOverLord not fate, just a simple calculation.
Yeass
Kojima warned us... He warned us in his own games.
This is what Big Boss Was struggling against... At least for soldiers and warriors used in conflicts, whoever wanted to play "War" with human lives had to pay Outer Heaven...
Even Kojima fell victim to his own warnings of the dangers of digital Mis-information. When Former prime minister Shinzo Abe was shot a couple months ago, 4chan made a joke(i would assume it was a joke anyways) post with pictures of Kojima wearing Russian styled hat, another with a Joker shirt, another with a Che Guevara shirt and said that the shooter was a far-left commie, incel. The Far-Right news outlets ate up this information and spat it back out as the truth. Kojima Productions has filed a lawsuit on the outets who slandered him as a killer
as opposed to someone else's games
Lol, as if Kojima was the one who came up with this.
@@sirlimen333 it was not him thats for sure!!! Infact co written Wrighters did the lifting including mgs 1 2 3 since mgs3 mgs4 was ah wraps for the series yett HIDEO KOJIMA went crazy and wanted the series to continue he even said he wanted to get ride of snake including politics and make mgs world wide game!
I remember how much people hated MGS2 because the bait and switch with Raiden, but it was decades ahead of its time
I hated it too but with each replay, I came to understand and appreciate what had been done and why. I almost rage quit because of the naked bit but I'm glad I stuck it out... That sounded wrong lol
It was the first game of the series I played, so I never experienced that bait and switch. Ppl still go on about it to this day as their main argument for disliking it. It's like, ok buddy, you got a hard-on for Snake, we get it. 😂
Edit: anyone else notice the 'Titanic' reference with the names Jack & Rose?
I honestly did hate it the first time I played it because the first game just left a huge impact on me, snake was just a unique character and that voice, david hayter delivered on the voice acting (I was 11 years old and I didnt even know half of what the game was telling me) but over time I got over it and appreciated him and what Hideo was intending in doing, I hope we get remakes for the ps5, I doubt it though since konami is fucking greedy
True
I remember haters of the series calling it convoluted and pretentious. Its amazing how little of it made sense to me back then and how much sense it makes to me now, it's like it was made in the future and sent back in time.
"This goes against our community standards"
@Carlos Gabriel I was being sarcastic
@@paulloughlin3732 completely missing the entire point of the video! You even put quotation marks.
@@scotvanrice2988 I put in quotation marks because I am quoting the likes of Facebook, Twitter and the others. If they saw this video I imagine that would be their response, and their attempt at censorship so I don't think I missed the point of the video at all. I think some people are missing my point.
@@paulloughlin3732 I'm totally with you. Scrolling through the comments after watching this video. Seeing yours and it's exactly the "create context" line. This goes against our narrative. It's mad to watch a video about censorship and free will, seeing your comment and not seeing the sarcasm. It's like, did the message go over their heads?
@@scotvanrice2988 yeah, thought people might have picked up on it with the quotation marks but nope! Glad you did! But it's amazing how relevant this game and this sequence in particular is now!
The irony of all of us watching this on TH-cam is almost so dense you can cut it
Looooool
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"So what's mgs2 about?"
"Walking robot Tanks"
"Actually, NO!"
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Well yes, but actually no
Its terrifying how "right" the AI are. This game came out when again? Goddamn future sight of Kojima
2001,for Playstation 2
@@lancerotalucardhd8793 Nice.
@@lancerotalucardhd8793 written in 1998-1999 though
@@HistoryandReviews well,it was launched in 2001 MGS 2 so yeah you get it
Written by Fukushima as well.
This game supposedly prophesised an impossible dystopia, and yet here we are, two decades later, reaping the fruits of our ignorance. How do we change it?
We can't. It's too late
No more internet, maybe?
It's human nature clashing with the evolution of technology. Either we're all zombified by big Tech leaders or were given the freedom to think for ourselves but also be inundated and manipulated by junk information aka "fake news"
Well idk..But maybe take this speech as a Motivation?
th-cam.com/video/azHIWZxUgPY/w-d-xo.html
Get rid of politics altogether. Go back to living in grass huts in the mountains. Destroy the internet
Well done. I was a kid when I first heard this. I'm 29 now.
Same
Am 37 now but same idea. Pretty sure this video is going to blow up with people making this same comment.
That is interesting
Think I was like 3 when it came out and now I'm 23
I was 4 when this game came out. I'm 25 now.
You somehow made the conversation more chilling as it was
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Just to ad more relevance to the video, this quote is also fake. It’s a meme circulating on Facebook. But there is no proof that Orwell ever sad or wrote this.
@@simont.n.4229 "add". An ad is what Facebook lives off of. ;)
@@simont.n.4229 irony (both sides)
Kojima warned us about revengeance fans all the way back in the 2000s
Can you explain?
@@kenobigaming5755 memes
@@lucasfig2002 the DNA of the soul
Kojima warned us about Survive 😂
Rising is good and I love Raiden there, but I prefer MGS2 and the Raiden that is still growing...
"Everyone withdraws into their small gated community, afraid of a larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds, leaking whatever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large"
Scary. The AI Rose was referring to safe spaces and echo chambers.
echo chambers have existed long before the internet, however the existence of the former made the rise of echo chambers go through the roof
@@zello4075 there evolution echo chamber but even more worse
4chan and Reddit.
@@RedPlaystationController Also Discord servers and, as crazy as it sounds, online Hangout games like Roblox and VR chat
It’s honestly horrifying how well the game predicted what the current world is like.
People who hate MGS2 is still stick on the Raiden switch and not seeing the bigger picture, it has took us 10 to 20 years to truly understand this message and this is truly spotted on. Everything GW is saying describe our society as a whole. As a kid I truly never understand this because i was a kid but then after 10 years later after the game release on HD remaster that I slowly understand it but now another 10 years and i see the picture Kojima was trying to say, MGS3 is a great game but this right here is something of premonition, revelation, we need to give this game more praise than it should, this game has truly stand with the tides of time itself. I feel like that switch was needed to help people to understand the story that much deeper If you still don't want to see the full picture and still upset about Raiden switch to Snake then you are truly lost and shows how small minded you truly are.
well said
I am pretty confident Kojima has inside information
here are a few facts regarding MGS2
9-11-01 (New York) the false flag event happened. (twin towers)
(originally MGS2 was going to be called MGS3 which was to represent the 3 tallest buildings in NYC
(Twin towers and Empire State) was switched to MGS2:Sons of liberty
10-26-01 The “Patriot act” is signed (as a result of the so called “terrorist attacks”) giving the gov power to spy on us
11-13-01 Metal Gear solid 2 sons of liberty is released - The game starts and ends in New York…..and the main antagonist are called “The Patriots” aka illuminati
11-13-01 (metal gear solid 2 release date) to 8-24-2002 (Hideo Kojima's birthday) is exactly 9 months and 11 days apart
Not to mention your 1st mission as raiden is disarming bombs for a controlled demolition of big shell just as the controlled demolition (9-11)
2-3-2002 - Patriots win the superbowl (scripted to win as a means to galvanize the American pubic being "patriotic" to fight the so called "war on terror"
Real. For me personally MGS2 is the 1984 of the 21st century. Way ahead of it’s time
While the message is great and a spot on predicition mgs2 just simply put isn't as fun or as good overall as MGS3 is. It's hardly a comparison because of how much of a total package mgs 3 is and the fact that by the time mgs3 came out kojima had a lot more time to work with the PS2.
@@GarrakS is that even your own thought?
It is scary how underrated this piece of dialogue is from one of the most succesful franchises of videogames. Kojima is a genius
What I find most eerie and difficult to wrestle with is that the AI in the game make very valid points. At least in terms of problems like rampant garbage information constantly trending and never fading.
Everytime i hear mgs2
In my brain: *LALILULELO*
My monkey brain: Say that three time's fast.
😂
THE LALILULELO?
I recall when Qanon came onto the scene back in 2017. As soon as the term 'the patriots' started being thrown around, MGS was the first thing I thought of - at first it really took me back & couldn't believe what I was seeing with my own eyes. I'm 34 now & still remember using dial up internet to get cheat codes for my Nintendo 64 games with AOL instant messenger being the only way to talk to friends outside of school etc.. Gen Z is too young to see what the internet has become, while our parents are too old. Take that a step further and x>75% of millennials are too ignorant to see what the internet has become & they are the ones who had the best chance at doing so. But, to say the least, it's fascinating watching this play out. Shout out to those who are watching the insanity of the world being live-streamed, while also keeping their emotions grounded & not being compromised. Thanks for making this video.
It's quite tragic in a sense. Millennials were around when the internet culture was at it's infancy and arguably mostly 'innocent'. But much like many things human beings acquire for generations, we found a way to turn it into a tool and a weapon and none of us did anything to stop it or rather we were to ignorant to know what was happening under our noses. The internet in the mid 2000s and earlier 2010s is infinitely different from what it is now. And the more time goes on, the better MGS2 ages.
Gen Z is a stupid term
@@HakunonMatata innocent? Webcam p0rnea has been around since 1996
@@HistoryandReviews no it makes perfect sense ... Gen X -> Millenials (aka Gen Y) -> Gen Z (aka Zoomers etc)
It's just following a precedent
Well said
Jesus this is actually haunting, good job.
keep in mind that the script for mgs2 was written in 1999, before the turn of the millennium and the game was released in 2001.
before smartphones, tablets, apps, and every other modern day necessity, this game predicted the upcoming future excellently.
Our GW isn't working good. They actually make that false "truth"
Or it’s trying to free us but we aren’t listening
All of George Soros' doing, the CIA is working under his thumb
Oh no they are actually working *perfectly* in creating context
Our what
that's because it's humans who are our GW, our current AI only automates it, as opposed to being the real decider, and there's more than one, meaning you got different ideologies competing to create context.
I had my phone open on another app while doing something else and suddenly the colonel AI starts talking in my headphones from this video. Nightmare fuel.
This speech was already scary because it's true, but those pics made it even scarier
It is always better to explain using images, visual info with audio(or text) is crucial to understanding. l wished games had more examples, but it is complex, it depends on the context of the game but alas, you're pretty good!
They should have pulled MGS1 and went to the stock footage
@@WeCareAlot4693 stock footage of what? The game came out in 2001, the things it was warning us about wouldnt even begin to exist in even their most innocent earliest form for a handful of years yet, and many many more years before the internet warped into the very thing described by the patriots AI here.
For me, the implications with the original text without these images hit harder.
maybe use your own fucking brain
The shit with the social media apps talking to Raiden at the end was some chef's kiss shit; perfect. Great job.
I love how confident the AI is when it says "Absolutely"
Kojima was at his creative peak for this game. Nothing held back.
He hatched with Metal Gear, and then spread his wings with Metal Gear 2, and with Metal Gear Solid he began to fly. But with Metal Gear Solid 2 he reached new heights, heights of which that haven’t been reached since.
Well said. I totally agree! He kept adding to MGS2 also. We got substance with the VR missions, the exclusive PlayStation 2 skateboarding mini game, they making of documentary and also the document of metal gear solid 2 which allowed us to free roam anywhere in the map and inspect the 3D models using the game along with tons of other game assets. No other metal gear game got that treatment, and for good reason.
Metal gear solid 3 was complete and utter disappointment of a video game. Can't stand it in fact.
While i think he peaked with Mgs 3 (things like gameplay, details, story and characters), Mgs 2 was where he absolutely went full power with his philosophies and sociology, so great that only now we are understanding what he wanted to tell us
Sure it wasn’t his friends?
i'm kinda speechless lol
Take notice that this come from a game that was released in 2001 but the script was written in 1999.
Before youtube, twitter, full internet access, smarthphones.
La Li Lu Le Lo.
TH-cam refused to translate this to "Patriots"
Day li sun leo
remember Asmondgold looked at a trailer for MGS3 Delta and said "I hope they series doesn't become political" with a straight face
ironic that you do that statement, this is what AI meant when it said that they want to create context. "We are not the one smothering the world you are"
The video is bone chilling
They warned Us
Kojima warned us
Based
@@ssus the good thing is we still remember because till this day we are telling Sony and Konami to bring those games back! people need to know whats going on....especially the younger generations because shit is sketch right now
@@EdwardGutierrez90 too bad Konami Kicked Kojima out and Sony is making the worst decisions ever
@@ssus It's almost like they can't produce these kind of games anymore with spot on conspiracies post 2008 because of the great filter
To be fair, it wasn't about walking robot tanks.. :p
This will blow up
Crazy how this held up, especially now with the AI voices we have.
What a masterpiece of editing
This aged well, too well.
Shrek: "Can you stop being prophetic FOR ONE MINUTE KOJIMA!"
Kojima is God! The man saw this coming even though the age of the internet was just beginning at 1999
That he is, Grey Fox, that he is!
Kojima saw it coming because he works for the freemasons/illuminati
@@godisreal2537 yup exactly
The first time I played this game I poop my pants in this scene. I was 18 at the time
I was 13 or 14, it blew my mind. Changed my whole world/political perspective honestly. I had always had passing thoughts of something like 'The Patriots.' Such a brilliant script, brilliant game. One of the best 💪🏼
@@oldschooltakingyaback good thing my older brother was with me while I was playing and asked me "what the hell David the game is possessed"
I was younger then that when I first experienced this and I didn't quite understand it and it's implications, fast forward a few years and I understood the meaning, fast forward to now and we live in this prophesied world. To me it's just like Ghost In The Shell, many of the terms and concepts you don't fully understand when you're younger but upon reviewing them again you not only understand them better but the comparisons to those events in real life are now more apparent. Japanese media often have deep introspection that is quite frankly staggering compared to western media which doesn't hit those same levels.
Oh my Gosh... Kojima... You were right all the time.....
I always listen this part of the game when I am trying to get some shut eye....idk why but its just refreshing to me because at least I am somewhat aware of whats going on more than most, and now it seems most of those people who ignored the signs are going bat shit crazy because they cant handle reality and how effed up this world can truly be...of course we should always look to the brighter side of things, stay well friends.
Who would have guessed GW was the good guy all along.
The reality is the honest brutality
Outstanding job! Really gives chills!
it's strange that this vid could perfectly be one of the "real footages" that appears in some codec conversations
Remember, they had to edit this game just before launch because 9/11 occurred. Now we have our artificial intelligence (AI) systems they spoke about in this game. When we get the SOP system in mgs4, then we're really screwed.
There was an article I read sometime ago that said ID tagged weapons were being developed. Not sure if it's true or false, but that right there is already cause for concern.
I literally was working on the same video and saw that you beat me to it. I can’t say I would have done a better job. It’s eerie how accurately Kojima was able to predict the current state of affairs, regardless of what the game was actually about. It’s so relevant.
imagine someone hack the entire time square billboard and show this video to civilians
MGS2 and Deus Ex (2000), i think they were trying to tell us something. But instead of pondering what, people instead took to heart Raiden slipping on bird poopoo, and JC doing the funny haha what a shame quote.
Effort rarely sells in they way you’d hope
The same goes for American Psycho and any similar media that has something insightful to show. This is all because people decide what to take with them, what they like, they will choose.
It all depends on the eyes of our souls. If our eyes are dirty, then even the most holy phenomenon, will be considered dirty from us.
Of course, there is always some funny moments to remember by but the most important thing is to remember the insightful and live by it.
By taking what you like to take from conversations, people, topics, you prove that you completely miss the point and only want to make your life, by your own set of rules. It also references the concept of always blaming others and not taking responsibility, we don't want our little mask to crumble and show our true self.
great upload
When it comes down to abusing censorship for malicious objectives the question becomes "who are we to judge or interpret the perception of truth for others let alone be qualified for it?"
Written in 1999 . Made into a video game that released just after 9/11.
That time he apologized for predicting 9/11
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat he most likely had inside information from the release date of MGS2 To his birthday is exactly 9months and 11 days
he probably had inside information.
Imagine if this talk was by a half body Rose and Roy Campbell
And whom talks just change their eye colour
get of my head get of my head get of my head get of my head get of my head get of my head get of my head
I swear I get chills just listening to this
After whatever is happening , we are here today July 14 2024
that influencer thing hit me pretty hard, made me rethink how I get my information
Do not let yourself be an inchon. Declare yourself AN EXON.
The reality of 2024
My favorite part of the game
From 2001...But written in 1999, which is even better ;)
A masterpiece. Remember when that guard went peepee on Raiden’s head? A true masterpiece indeed.
The game purposely featured snake in places where you play as Raiden in its trailers to add to the "propaganda" and "fake news" themes of the game.
Absolutely genius
This is the way the world ends not with a bang but a whimper
-T.S. Eliot
my favourite political party, transgender
You already possess by memes LGBTQ ideology
@@kerryvanskonsol792 yeah, it's the ideology flag, a Marxist created one.
Did they make you censor a certain flag? Wow this is "creating context" in action
I wasn't the only one who noticed. It wasn't like that before
It is. How ironic, but wonder if he censored it himself because it took like 5 people to tell him that is the trans flag, and not the Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist symbol, I don't think they even have a flag.
@@ArgentWolf95 yes and it's ok it was the trans flag. They also manipulate and create context to benefit the system's goals
@@Bendeth0 absolutely. I think he believes in the woke ideology so that's why he censored it, ironic. he likely believes in the context created for the transgenders. In reality they're just pawns to benefit marxists, who run the system.
A lot of these ideas Kojima used come from Marxism.
So, everything Solidus feared, has actually come to pass?
What colonel fails to mention:
People that create trivial information or conivent partial truths are actually relatively doing same thing as the patriots. The difference here is their "intentions in how they use creation of pretexts or contexts to create a conivent explanation for their own objectives even if unintentional."
Colonel raises important philosophical question:
"Should people that abuse creation of pretexts, contexts especially, explanations have rights to "free speech rehtoric" to give explanations for anyone in public when they're doing it so irresponsibility by creating misinformation?"
Okay don't take me as an apologist guys. But technically the patriots had the least kills and unnecessary deaths in the game. Thats what made me stop and wonder if they weren't just gaslighting us.
Convince me this scene wasn't just footage from mk ultra.
This is a perfect edit adapted to it.
The original name of this, is called Ideological Subversion, it's how context is created. First part of it is Demoralization, second is Destabilization, Third is Crisis, and lastly: Normalization.
“What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.”
"“They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.”
"“As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore,” said Bezmenov. “A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fat-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That’s the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization.” - Yuri Bezmenov
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That happened before. This is nothing 'new'
@@troywright359 that's what i'm saying. Communists have been doing this for a long time. Current subversions are new advances in the philosophies and methods though, partly because of technology.
@@troywright359 That's what i'm saying. It's just much more powerful because of the internet.
I think I'm gonna find a nice hole to cry in.
The La Li Lu Le Lo have already won.
So, we live in a world where everything Solidus feared, came to pass?
@@Joshua_N-A just scroll this same video’s comment section and you’ll see how many people are still proving the S3 program is in working order.
2:45 the meme...
The DNA of the soul, they shape our will, they are the culture, they are everything we pass on
You can view the ai as part of the big stock firms and holdings such as blackrock as one in the same. They reward certain companies with points and bumps if they follow whats acceptable
Was the Aphabet gang flag always censored? 😒 that shit is coming off extra spooky
Can someone send this to Nina Jankowicz ? We literally have a Disinformation Governance Board.
Sounds like some kind of ministry.
Gameplay : stealth soldier vs giant robots
Lore :
My god, this game's script was written in 1999. Before social media, before smartphones, before the internet even became mainstream.
"I'll decide for myself what to believe and what to pass on!" 😒
*"But is that even your own idea~?"* 🙃
Its crazy to think that this game franchise also has bipedal tanks and a woman giving birth during d-day.
This get scarier each day, especially when we are now entering the age of artificial intelligence
This came out in 2001, crazy.
Спасибо за создание контекста, в словах о том как создание нужного контекста влияет на первоначальную мысль…
Это немного даже забавно.
KJ Knew what was coming - so good
Love what you did with this, great stuff.
this concept was taken from 1984 it wasn't written by Kojambles, he merely spinned it into the plot because it sounded cool, people need to stop pretending he's a good writer especially after mgs4, 5 and death stranding
"Merely spinned it"
Ok, i wanna see you coming up whit an original plot, whitout taking inspiration from anybody.
@@angelis1123 lol cope
@@wwld9823 Bet you can't
@@angelis1123 copenhagen
Not just George Orwell. It';s been a key point of Socialist governments for the last century. Kojima is only accurate on how Digital Technology would adapt these theories. He also made it in a way a lot more people would eventually understand it. Deus Ex does these topics better, but this codec call, is actually a good representation of it.
The concept has been used by Soviet Union, and even the Nazis. It's called Ideological Subversion.
th-cam.com/video/Y9TviIuXPSE/w-d-xo.html
I collect knowledge and i fucking loved how you used mgs2 for real life stuff great job
We're in the flashpoint now boys.
Can't see the AI as evil anymore.
That's probably the most terrifying part, 20 years later, and the AI makes more sense than the heroes
Both are wrong.
@@Adeptus_Mechanicuswho?, man and it's creation?
Damn this is good. Does anyone have access to the track thougth? It's terrifyingly awesome.
Got chills down my spine multiple times, even though I've heard this speech so many times. Adding some real-life footage and commonly used social media apps as talking images dramatically intensified the gravity of what the AI was trying to prevent; an eerie, contextless dystopia governed by "truth". Kojima and his team literally prophesized the future on a 2001 video game.
Visionaries, all of them.
The prideflag made my jaw drop. I... forgot how one-sided the lgbt are.
It’s actually the TERF flag
@@SedLanas that's actually one of the gender ideology flags.
@@SedLanas You do realize that's just the trans pride flag with the gender identity symbol in the front right? Most TERFs would probably scoff at the idea of "Gender Identity"
The counter Argument to Deus Ex's Helios Merger.
All those words, but these are coming from A.I. whose only as good as the people who made them. They represent only those who gave them such a view on humanity, but never walked alongside those who they look down on. And they lack compassion for others, that still means that such an entity and the person who made them that way still can't be trusted to lead.