Genius move by Honda-- great way to introduce motorcycling to beginners by making it accessible. They'll be making die hard Honda fans sooner than later.
It's weird because scooters are laughed at and it's just a scooter with plastic on it. But as long it looks like a motorcycle people will buy it. Iv own a Grom and a Ninja 400. Overall scooters are the way to go for chill rides. I never owned a Harley but having a back rest would be amazing when riding.
I just called 5 stores near my area and away from my area and they all said mid October would be their next chance of even getting some navis in stock. Now I see why e-bikes are even more popular. They are easily available.
I don't think you have to be broke though, for this little guy to be a valid option over some of the other options out there. I get what you're saying though ;)
@@HondaProKevin I have a 2022 Grom abs, F.I ...12 in wheels front & back... A Vespa GTS 300abs F.I. 2 other big bikes all abs and F.I. I kind of buy bikes to ride them not work on them... 😁
@@juliebraden6911 I don't care what you think ,English isn't my mother tongue....my spelling is really good in my first language, I bet you only can speak one language 😆
It's a cute little bike. I have a Monkey and love the little bikes. Wish they could go a bit faster. Oh well. The big problem is theft. 2 guys and a van and they can dissappear quickly.
Same here, I'm a massive fan of these little bikes but like you said - theft can be a MAJOR problem with them. That's why I always preached to guys when I was selling these mini bikes that you better have good insurance, it's cheap and will save your butt should someone decide to just toss it in the back of their truck / van while you're parked somewhere. I'm with you on the speed too, it'd be nice if all of them could at least get up to around the 60mph mark so you could feel a little more confident with hopping on different roads.
@@petersimplifemy used one had an air tag on it lol. I took it for a ride and Google told me my rides were being tracked lol. You can ping the tag and make it beep, took a while but we found it and removed it
I am 63 and just moved to a new country . Got a NAVI for sight seeing around the city and shopping . Have up grated to a bigger bike for more exploring. Have never owned two bikes at the same time.But I don't know if I could ever let my little buddy go. New bike is in the shop having after market touring parts added. Surprised when I said " take your time guy's " Got a bud who can get me around. hahaha
Picked mine up in Independence, MO (KC) yesterday for $2,800 out the door. It is Grasshopper Green and it was one of the last two in the metro; the only one left is Honda Red and it is $3,200 out the door.
Appreciate it Ron! lol you're not wrong there, sadly! I have been seeing more and more released over the last few weeks though when compared to the last couple of months so hopefully that's a positive sign of what's to come with availability issues. We're still nowhere near the end of the supply issues from this rona mess, it's going to be another year or more before we start to see any hint of normalcy on that front.
BIG VALLEY HONDA, RENO NEVADA HAS MORE THAN A FEW NAVI ,S 4 4 4 SALE ! AND WE JUST BOUGHT A > C T 125 TRAIL,, AFTER WAITING 13 L O N G MONTHS.. SO THEY SAY> GOOD THINGS COME IN SMALL PACKAGES & THE WAIT > IS SOON FORGOTTEN ! ! SEE YA ,, T 2 T...
I 100% agree. I had a deposit down for almost 3 months before I got mine. Be prepared to pay almost double to get it out the door of a dealership too. My fiancé LOVES this bike though. Just last week I installed the Hot Laps exhaust and now her Navi is almost as loud as my 22’ Grom SP with the Vance & Hines Hooligan exhaust. She gets so excited taking off from an intersection now that she just leaves me in her dust. Aftermarket exhaust makes the Navi so much meaner but you’ll have to wait about 7 weeks if you want that as well because that is a bespoke exhaust from Japan. As Kevin said, all the parts are pretty cheap too but you will have a hard time finding where to purchase them. The Navi has VERY uncommon tire sizes and because of the low clearance between the rear tire and the back of the crankcase, larger tires are just not an option without other modifications. I like to build up my bikes with a lot of aftermarket parts like most who have Groms, that said; I would recommend this bike but also warn of the challenges regarding parts for this bike.
$1807 turns into $2400 after delivery fee , fuel surcharge fee and all the other usual fees. The lights dim at idle from what other reviewers have said along with carb issues and relatively poor gas Mileage for that size engine
@@NickShootsGuns honda carbs should be as reliable as the sunrise, but the Navi's is a lottery. Just remember this was a bike regulated out of the Indian market because of poor emissions. A few too many cut corners.
in my country you cant advertise a bike or car for 1807 and not sell it at that price, the only extra costs are accessories plus on road cost, eg the cost of plates and registration, all taxes and assembly charges must be inclusive in the retail price, and if you are using it off road you dont need plates or registration
All they need to do now is have the tire companies make off road tires for it or have Honda boost the OEM tire sizes on these scooters. I would buy one tomorrow if i could install dual sport tires on it.
I bought mine used with no intention of doing so, but I love it. I got it cheap and was going to flip it but it's too fun. The $1800 price range is not accurate from what I've seen though, after tax license, and all the dealer fee's I've seen, look to pay at least $2400. I know tax doesn't count, but the dealer fees are always there.
Great vid! Love how you compare the metro and ruckus to this. All the disappointment I see is comparing this to the grom. Its a scooter that you swing your leg over. If you have any mechanical sense at all or you use the bike at least once every few weeks the carb will never be a problem. People forget that carbs we’re commonplace on everything not many years ago. The ruckus and metro still have carbs and they sell out everywhere still.
Scooters are normaly higher. So this is 41.1 inches vs 40inch of the grom. Your best bet is to just go to the dealer and seat on one. If you think it's still to high they can lower suspension or you can do the mounting on pegs trick.
IMPORTANT: Parts are cheap, BUT completely unavailable. Bend a fork, thats a 6 month wait to get the parts from Honda to a dealer with a “critical status” ticket from Honda Corp. Do NOT buy this bike until parts become avail or you’ll be regretting it. Also, the forks, they’re the same as the Honda 50… This bike is cheap but is also built CHEAP. It didnt sell in India bot because they didnt like it, but because its quality isnt there which is unlike Honda, but thats what a price point bike gets you.
Different strokes for different folks ;) I'd still like to get my hands on one of those and see what they're all about as I've only seen them in pictures / videos and that can only do so much. People seem to be enjoying them though and the more mini bikes we have on the market, the better!
@@HondaProKevin we do not get the Navi in the UK but plenty of clones, engines are cheap as chips if you want more power, just need to keep tools and loctite with you on a ride, i have a Skyteam clone of the ct70 with a 125 manual motor, off on it now to the local bike meet, great fun.
One other thing you should know before buying a new Honda NAVI at $1,807.... $1,807 MSRP + $250 freight + $195 administration fee + $143 sales tax. $2,395 Out the door. If you live in the Dakota's and under 18 add another $500, then....$2,895 Wow not so cheap as the hype would have u believe. instead my oldest brother choose to buy a 2006 Honda civic with 98,000 miles in good condition instead for $3,200
One thing I'm curious about is if the CVT transmission allows for engine braking when slowing or going downhill, or does it just freewheel? Hopefully so, since it only has drum brakes. What has front drums these days? they can't be that much cheaper.
I agree with Phillip . If money is the number one issue this bike is the way to go. But I have had more than enough carbs to work on for a life time. As always another good review.
Same here bud, I've gotten to the point to where I could care less about anything with a carb these days - unless it's something that just really tickles my fancy so-to-say lol and has everything else going for it. I think the price point on this thing makes a lot of people forget about the carb woes and I'm one of them, it's cheap enough and has quite a few other positives that would make me forget about that at the end of the day. Thank you, appreciate the kind words ;)
The only place that sells honda navi is power sports something 999 shipping cost assembly fees the 1807 dollar price .in all the bike is $ 4200 out the door ! Made in mexico that is not a bargain!!
Hey @HondaPro Kevin I want to buy the new 2022 Honda Vario 160 (Only available in Indonesia). I’m in Chicago, & my Honda dealership doesn’t have any kind of importing system in place….so how would I go about getting one (if at all possible)? 🤔
I have a HD Road Glide Special in my Garage. I want to ride it everyday but its too big to have a "neighborhood" ride. The preparation before riding is too much for me for a "short" ride. Im thinking of getting a Navi as secondary Motorcycle.
hard for me to choose between this or the grom. I could just go buy the Navi and not finance it at all but I worry about the carb. I dont know how to work on bikes so. I live in East TN where it does get cold and the bike might sit for a few weeks during the winter. Anyone have any input to help me decide?
Cars are highly regulated and they have important laws to prevent you to just brining it over. Only now you can buy old Japanese kei cars and skyline. For motorcycles it's easy as buying something from China showing the paper of origin and VIN then boom street legal. Lol
Had a ruckus I only sold it when I moved it was no longer practical and could not handle the hill I live on. Now I’m 4.5 miles from work and can store it in the warehouse to avoid theft which is a really sad reality out my way. It needs to be completely secured indoors or poof, gonezo in broad daylight. Would need to modify it some for more top speed though four lanes of Rt6 known as suicide 6 you need to get ahead of the traffic to survive
lol right! Next to their lawn mowers, this 0.9 gallon tank has to be the smallest they've thrown on anything in a LONG time. The next smallest I can think of on a bike would be the Motocompo and it was around the 0.5 - 0.6 gallon mark.
Oh, and for more options look at Indian and Mexican sites where it's been pretty popular for customization. A lot of stuff, even factory Honda, that never made it to US market. Go figure.
I am also 5'2 and just got my Navi. If I was any shorter, I wouldn't make it. But at 5'2 I have just enough room to get my feet on the ground enough to control/hold it up
It a waste of money I burned mine at a party for laughs I painted it's name on the gas tank we called it the knobber a cheap little blow for the down now it's a pile of melted plastic now it's were it belongs lemay
I think the point you make about Navi being a better learner bike then the other minis is often overlooked. Things like DCT and controls in different places will make it harder for new riders to graduate to a bigger bike
Genius move by Honda-- great way to introduce motorcycling to beginners by making it accessible. They'll be making die hard Honda fans sooner than later.
I never liked motorbike but I got this and now I am In Love . Craving a bigger bike now
It's weird because scooters are laughed at and it's just a scooter with plastic on it. But as long it looks like a motorcycle people will buy it.
Iv own a Grom and a Ninja 400. Overall scooters are the way to go for chill rides. I never owned a Harley but having a back rest would be amazing when riding.
Inexpensive transportation, and easy to ride for a beginner. Great video Kevin, ride safe.
I just called 5 stores near my area and away from my area and they all said mid October would be their next chance of even getting some navis in stock. Now I see why e-bikes are even more popular. They are easily available.
Imo the Navi is the perfect starter motorcycle for a beginner
If your really broke it's a good Moto
I don't think you have to be broke though, for this little guy to be a valid option over some of the other options out there. I get what you're saying though ;)
@@HondaProKevin I have a 2022 Grom abs, F.I ...12 in wheels front & back... A Vespa GTS 300abs F.I. 2 other big bikes all abs and F.I. I kind of buy bikes to ride them not work on them... 😁
What if you're bad at spelling?
@@juliebraden6911 The spelling doesn't matter so much as long as they can read the fine print and sign.
@@juliebraden6911 I don't care what you think ,English isn't my mother tongue....my spelling is really good in my first language, I bet you only can speak one language 😆
quit making your voice rise at the end of sentences, sheesh.
Just be prepared to bend over a sales desk at most dealerships… I was charged $3400 OTD at Del Amo Powersports in Redondo, CA in June of this year.
Also, I can’t find replacement tires for it for less than $200/tire and my only options are to import it from Europe.
My experience has been the same, almost double out the door.
@@joujimiichi1 $200 per tire?! That’s insane! That’s about the same for a full size car tire wtf
The dealerships are screwing everybody! My SIDE X SIDE WAS 3,000 MORE THAN ADVERTISED PRICE!!! 1,600.00 IN FREIGHT charge!!!
It's a cute little bike. I have a Monkey and love the little bikes. Wish they could go a bit faster. Oh well. The big problem is theft. 2 guys and a van and they can dissappear quickly.
Same here, I'm a massive fan of these little bikes but like you said - theft can be a MAJOR problem with them. That's why I always preached to guys when I was selling these mini bikes that you better have good insurance, it's cheap and will save your butt should someone decide to just toss it in the back of their truck / van while you're parked somewhere. I'm with you on the speed too, it'd be nice if all of them could at least get up to around the 60mph mark so you could feel a little more confident with hopping on different roads.
DITTO,, FOR A H.D. HARLEY LOSS > A VAN 4 BAD DUDES 2 PIPES THRU THE SPOKES,, VOOORM THERE OFF IN 20 SECONDS..
You could put an AirTag on it
@@petersimplifemy used one had an air tag on it lol. I took it for a ride and Google told me my rides were being tracked lol. You can ping the tag and make it beep, took a while but we found it and removed it
not worth it than there’s some e bikes that u can upgrade the speed to go atleast 70 mph !!
I am 63 and just moved to a new country . Got a NAVI for sight seeing around the city and shopping . Have up grated to a bigger bike for more exploring. Have never owned two bikes at the same time.But I don't know if I could ever let my little buddy go. New bike is in the shop having after market touring parts added. Surprised when I said " take your time guy's " Got a bud who can get me around. hahaha
Man its crazy how the dealerships putting huge dealer fees on it they asking 3,500 out the door almost double the price of the bikes 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Picked mine up in Independence, MO (KC) yesterday for $2,800 out the door. It is Grasshopper Green and it was one of the last two in the metro; the only one left is Honda Red and it is $3,200 out the door.
Guess I won't be getting this scooter then, buying a car is stressful enough going through a dealership and it's definitely not worth that pricetag
dealership mark ups are crazy !! man I hate dealing with the dealers
Awesome information.
Only 1 major problem,
FINDING A NAVI!!!!!!!!!
Appreciate it Ron!
lol you're not wrong there, sadly! I have been seeing more and more released over the last few weeks though when compared to the last couple of months so hopefully that's a positive sign of what's to come with availability issues. We're still nowhere near the end of the supply issues from this rona mess, it's going to be another year or more before we start to see any hint of normalcy on that front.
Guess I'll have to wait next summer to get a Navi. Now I have to focus my money on getting Christmas gifts for my 2 girlfriends.
BIG VALLEY HONDA, RENO NEVADA HAS MORE THAN A FEW NAVI ,S 4 4 4 SALE ! AND WE JUST BOUGHT A > C T 125 TRAIL,, AFTER WAITING 13 L O N G MONTHS.. SO THEY SAY> GOOD THINGS COME IN SMALL PACKAGES & THE WAIT > IS SOON FORGOTTEN ! ! SEE YA ,, T 2 T...
@@rodneysherwin4489
Unfortunately Chicago is a long way from Reno Nevada.
I 100% agree. I had a deposit down for almost 3 months before I got mine. Be prepared to pay almost double to get it out the door of a dealership too. My fiancé LOVES this bike though. Just last week I installed the Hot Laps exhaust and now her Navi is almost as loud as my 22’ Grom SP with the Vance & Hines Hooligan exhaust. She gets so excited taking off from an intersection now that she just leaves me in her dust. Aftermarket exhaust makes the Navi so much meaner but you’ll have to wait about 7 weeks if you want that as well because that is a bespoke exhaust from Japan.
As Kevin said, all the parts are pretty cheap too but you will have a hard time finding where to purchase them. The Navi has VERY uncommon tire sizes and because of the low clearance between the rear tire and the back of the crankcase, larger tires are just not an option without other modifications. I like to build up my bikes with a lot of aftermarket parts like most who have Groms, that said; I would recommend this bike but also warn of the challenges regarding parts for this bike.
$1807 turns into $2400 after delivery fee , fuel surcharge fee and all the other usual fees. The lights dim at idle from what other reviewers have said along with carb issues and relatively poor gas Mileage for that size engine
Let me know where you found one for 2,400.00. In calif it’s 3,500.00 OTD
@@grooviefan
I live in South Carolina so everything is cheaper here compared to California
People are having carb issues with them? How... it's literally so easy to work on
@@NickShootsGuns honda carbs should be as reliable as the sunrise, but the Navi's is a lottery. Just remember this was a bike regulated out of the Indian market because of poor emissions. A few too many cut corners.
Kick start is another plus. Never have to worry about a dead battery.
Great video. Too bad it is marred by dealer greed. OTD for the Navi in CA is > $2800. As you said, this is a $600 bike in the rest of the world.
Got mine 2 days ago, $2,600 OTD, we were fine with that.
@@charlottesmom Good for you. There are still a handful of Honda dealers (usually in smaller towns) doing MSRP+fees without markup.
@@sitechca70 Marking them up any amount over what we paid is ridiculous! Its good there are honest dealers around. 👍🏻🏍️
I grabbed a used 2023 model with 88 miles for $1600 out the door here in Ohio. Still brand new and warranty.
@@dan43213 I live in ohio can you tell me the deakler thankyou
in my country you cant advertise a bike or car for 1807 and not sell it at that price, the only extra costs are accessories plus on road cost, eg the cost of plates and registration, all taxes and assembly charges must be inclusive in the retail price, and if you are using it off road you dont need plates or registration
It's called MSRP you can even buy stuff lower then MSRP. What you want is the OTD price that's what I do when I shop in the US.
Do you need a motorcycle license to operate this?
Yes, in NV and CA everything required for a bigger bike applies.
All they need to do now is have the tire companies make off road tires for it or have Honda boost the OEM tire sizes on these scooters. I would buy one tomorrow if i could install dual sport tires on it.
I bought mine used with no intention of doing so, but I love it. I got it cheap and was going to flip it but it's too fun. The $1800 price range is not accurate from what I've seen though, after tax license, and all the dealer fee's I've seen, look to pay at least $2400. I know tax doesn't count, but the dealer fees are always there.
Great vid! Love how you compare the metro and ruckus to this. All the disappointment I see is comparing this to the grom. Its a scooter that you swing your leg over. If you have any mechanical sense at all or you use the bike at least once every few weeks the carb will never be a problem. People forget that carbs we’re commonplace on everything not many years ago. The ruckus and metro still have carbs and they sell out everywhere still.
That is the exact same fuel petcock as on the quad. You cannot go wrong with the Honda.
That blue one with green looks sick. What would one like that go for? $10k?
Wish it was 125/160cc, like the Honda Click
Somebody brought a Navi to Champ Street at Pittsburgh international raceway with a big frame slider on it. Top speed 50 mph!
Is this a good beginner bike for a short 4' 11" person?
Scooters are normaly higher. So this is 41.1 inches vs 40inch of the grom. Your best bet is to just go to the dealer and seat on one. If you think it's still to high they can lower suspension or you can do the mounting on pegs trick.
Zero electronics should made this easier to produce, and more available than a bike loaded with chips.
IMPORTANT: Parts are cheap, BUT completely unavailable. Bend a fork, thats a 6 month wait to get the parts from Honda to a dealer with a “critical status” ticket from Honda Corp. Do NOT buy this bike until parts become avail or you’ll be regretting it. Also, the forks, they’re the same as the Honda 50… This bike is cheap but is also built CHEAP. It didnt sell in India bot because they didnt like it, but because its quality isnt there which is unlike Honda, but thats what a price point bike gets you.
It was pulled from India market because it couldn't meet updated emission standards, not a lack of popularity.
Im not going to lie it looks pretty boss i want to deliver pizza on it
Still waiting for the Dax 125!!!
In America? Me, too, but I think we’re going to be disappointed.
It looks cool nice cruiser don’t underestimate it
Rather have an icebear champion, Skyteam ct70 clone.
Different strokes for different folks ;)
I'd still like to get my hands on one of those and see what they're all about as I've only seen them in pictures / videos and that can only do so much. People seem to be enjoying them though and the more mini bikes we have on the market, the better!
@@HondaProKevin we do not get the Navi in the UK but plenty of clones, engines are cheap as chips if you want more power, just need to keep tools and loctite with you on a ride, i have a Skyteam clone of the ct70 with a 125 manual motor, off on it now to the local bike meet, great fun.
Good , budget, introduction bike until the ‘Joe ECONOMY changes / GETS BETTER….(2024) DJT❤
where can i get that digi dash!?!
One other thing you should know before buying a new Honda NAVI at $1,807.... $1,807 MSRP + $250 freight + $195 administration fee + $143 sales tax. $2,395 Out the door. If you live in the Dakota's and under 18 add another $500, then....$2,895 Wow not so cheap as the hype would have u believe. instead my oldest brother choose to buy a 2006 Honda civic with 98,000 miles in good condition instead for $3,200
One thing I'm curious about is if the CVT transmission allows for engine braking when slowing or going downhill, or does it just freewheel? Hopefully so, since it only has drum brakes. What has front drums these days? they can't be that much cheaper.
do you need drivers license for this one?
$3000 Canadian base bare bones model
I agree with Phillip . If money is the number one issue this bike is the way to go. But I have had more than enough carbs to work on for a life time. As always another good review.
Same here bud, I've gotten to the point to where I could care less about anything with a carb these days - unless it's something that just really tickles my fancy so-to-say lol and has everything else going for it. I think the price point on this thing makes a lot of people forget about the carb woes and I'm one of them, it's cheap enough and has quite a few other positives that would make me forget about that at the end of the day.
Thank you, appreciate the kind words ;)
The only place that sells honda navi is power sports something 999 shipping cost assembly fees the 1807 dollar price .in all the bike is $ 4200 out the door ! Made in mexico that is not a bargain!!
Hey @HondaPro Kevin I want to buy the new 2022 Honda Vario 160 (Only available in Indonesia). I’m in Chicago, & my Honda dealership doesn’t have any kind of importing system in place….so how would I go about getting one (if at all possible)? 🤔
Question HondaProKevin,
is Honda still manufacturing the Navi for 2023?
I have a HD Road Glide Special in my Garage. I want to ride it everyday but its too big to have a "neighborhood" ride. The preparation before riding is too much for me for a "short" ride. Im thinking of getting a Navi as secondary Motorcycle.
🙂
Please let us know where we can buy a Navi in California for less then 3,500. Nobody is taking one home for anywhere like list of 1807.00
3k out the door
I can't find body plastic s anywhere.. where u getting them for 20 bucks? I want a red set...
hard for me to choose between this or the grom. I could just go buy the Navi and not finance it at all but I worry about the carb. I dont know how to work on bikes so. I live in East TN where it does get cold and the bike might sit for a few weeks during the winter. Anyone have any input to help me decide?
Premium fuel and an oz of seafoam, nothing to worry about.
I love riding the Honda grom. But I'm 5"8 so I hate bending over. I sold it way befor I thought of adding risers.
this is street legal but a suzuki jimny is illegal and not road worthy...blah
lol it's funny how that stuff works sometimes!
Cars are highly regulated and they have important laws to prevent you to just brining it over. Only now you can buy old Japanese kei cars and skyline.
For motorcycles it's easy as buying something from China showing the paper of origin and VIN then boom street legal. Lol
Do you need a license to ride one of these things? My license expired a long time ago and didn't bother to renew it
Had a ruckus I only sold it when I moved it was no longer practical and could not handle the hill I live on. Now I’m 4.5 miles from work and can store it in the warehouse to avoid theft which is a really sad reality out my way. It needs to be completely secured indoors or poof, gonezo in broad daylight. Would need to modify it some for more top speed though four lanes of Rt6 known as suicide 6 you need to get ahead of the traffic to survive
They need to make a 300-400cc bike with a clutch for $2,500
So this bike doesn't hold a full gallon?
lol right! Next to their lawn mowers, this 0.9 gallon tank has to be the smallest they've thrown on anything in a LONG time. The next smallest I can think of on a bike would be the Motocompo and it was around the 0.5 - 0.6 gallon mark.
Just picked mine up yesterday in KC!
Where do I find that trunk shown at the 1:31-1:32 mark?!
I'm in the "won't touch a carb with a 10 ft pole," but for the price, I'll learn to live with it.
Ran down 1st tank of gas to reserve. Got 50 miles without using reserve.
My neighbour has one and it's Tite!
Made in Mexico so how much if Purchased in Tijuana?
Where can I find those side panels to change colors? I’ve been looking for them
Oh, and for more options look at Indian and Mexican sites where it's been pretty popular for customization. A lot of stuff, even factory Honda, that never made it to US market. Go figure.
Agree... I just bought a black one from Mexicali
Paid close to 3.1 k for mine 😢 in NYC
I’m 5”2 am I tall enough to ride the Navi ?? I’m deciding between buying this or an E Bike ???
I am also 5'2 and just got my Navi. If I was any shorter, I wouldn't make it. But at 5'2 I have just enough room to get my feet on the ground enough to control/hold it up
01:53 how can I get the bike to look like that?
It’s bad ass just don’t wipe out
I kinda want one
So an M1 or M2 would be needed for this in California?
M1 it goes 50mph.
It a waste of money I burned mine at a party for laughs I painted it's name on the gas tank we called it the knobber a cheap little blow for the down now it's a pile of melted plastic now it's were it belongs lemay
I think the point you make about Navi being a better learner bike then the other minis is often overlooked. Things like DCT and controls in different places will make it harder for new riders to graduate to a bigger bike
Mine keeps turning off at every stop WHY???! 😑