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Haven't watched yet. Heard about bridge through a post on the Kotaku in action subreddit.
I have never heard of you before.
Also the main grifter I was referring to is grummz. Which I don't think should be disputed by anyone.
Watching now.
So what it really boils down to at the end is that I believe these companies are paying lip service to the concept (evidenced by ESG fund selloffs) and you think I'm wrong.
Cool.
cool response , i agree with Kirsche but i give you a like
appreciate the reply my dude. like I said in the video, I didn't think you were being disingenuous just didnt know about BRIDGE which is very understandable since I'm a literal who and the one talking about it.
I'm happy to give you all my links and sources if you want
You will find that Kirsche and her community are very, very good at keeping receipts. If you need any information, they can provide it easily.
care to elaborate why you think grumz is a grifter? this is my first time seeing anyone call him that
The fact that the conversation like this goes:
"Hey, we're doing this thing for DEI."
"Hey, they're doing this thing for DEI!"
"No we're not, what're you talking about you conspiracy theorist, this is harrassment!"
And we're just supposed to accept that, drives me crazy.
There’s a term for that. Its called gaslighting.
@@Dinoslay Gaslighting isn't real, you're just crazy.
"Theres no DEI in games."
"Even if there was it wouldn't be a big deal."
"DEI in games is a GOOD thing."
@@midnightfenrir
Narcissist's prayer
@@midnightfenrir Reminds me of the exact CRT loop. "There's no CRT in schools." "Let's ban it." "NOOOOOOOOO!"
CRT is another thing the public doesn't understand. Doesn't matter your political alignment, having finally read it, literally everyone arguing tooth and nail over it seems completely uneducated about why it's bad (and it is very very very bad).
"Are normies that unable to pay attention?"
Kirsche, i am so sorry
Yeah, it's unfortunate. There's so much information to digest that they just don't want to listen.
It's as she said before several times. There's so much information to go through that you can't really just do a short video on this subject.
Normies don't care about hobbies. They do things and move onto other things when they don't care any more.
Normies don't have passion for entertainment, they absorb it and move on with their real lives.
Normies are goldfish intellectually speaking, no wonder the self-proclaimed "elites" call them "the children." They literally are children in adult bodies.
Welcome to are knew Tldr culture that everyone seems to love to push on both sides. Like you should say Tldr before a long post or whatever as common courtesy. Just an insane way of thinking.
Is not just the information, is also that they are scare of knowing such facts. It would be a sudden change in their world views of all media and they will start to question everything they consume.
Some people can't handle or don't want to care.
Now, after we got smokescreen "victory", watch people pretend that there's no propaganda anymore in games, that have open propaganda. Kinda like people were in denial about Life is Strange, because it came out in the years before normies discovered this whole shitfest, and so they pretend it isn't a part of it, as well as many other games.
it's as predictable as the left and modern day hollywood films...and no matter how many times humanity repeats that same cycle of events, it keeps happening.
Remind me, I can't recollect much in LiS #1 but I do remember #2 was horrendous for it.
It was quite a while ago, though, so maybe I've just forgotten.
So apparently I've been talking about this one too many times cuz every time I bring up this subject in replies TH-cam hides or deletes my comment.
So the short version so what I'm saying is that you're right. Regular people are impatient. But rich people have patience. Unfortunately I can't go into it much more in depth than this now.
Just made an analogy about LiS1 being the first of 4 to arrive. Domain Bosses just ate it.
TH-cam will tell you it is Kirsche blocking them.
I watched Upper Echelon's video. He tried very hard to not notice the ideological aspect of DEI while trying to explain everything with money alone.
'Rationalist' trying to keep the world in his nice comfortable 'logical' frame not willing to accept that the 'rational' people can be just as driven by quasi-religious dogma as the religious people they feel they are 'better' than.
@@ssharp755 tl;dr in trying to rationalize something already irrational, Upper Echelon became irrational himself.
Irony is always the fate of anyone who lives by "better than thou" mentality.
@@TheRibbonRed If ideological or not, if consciously or not, it might have been a good thing, he did good to not bringt that part forward and focused on finance.
People tend to be a bit allergic, if "ideology" is named as a reason - especially instead of finance in an economic environment. It´s more publicly compatible, so more people might actually look out for it. In the end, why was it so important to even build a seemingly wrong study for the positive economic effects of DEI itself? Likely, because ideology/specific values or the path to reach it does not necessarily convince many.
can point out the small hats behind the level of this platform will ban you
Not just him, beluar doesnt mention it at all
I love how whenever a critical mass of our side starts to notice we are under attack, that's when the "we need to bring down the temperature/rhetoric" talk starts. Gotta hold back that pendulum on the downswing, or else there may actually be some accountability, or heaven forbid, walking back of Leftist/Globalist policies.
This! All the time!
It's frustrating, especially since enough influential people on the right tend to listen and back down at this point
I've always said time for talks are over, I actively shame people now for the last 10 years. I'm 32 and stopped this nonsense when I was 22.
@@christianedwards9025 Truth
"no no no we can't fight back, if we fight back then we are no better the the leftists who are winning, you don't want to win right?"
enough of imagining if the roles were reversed, reverse them.
I used to think all that forced diversity was just dumb companies trying to get popular with the youth.
Thanks Kirsche for showing how deep this shit goes and that i should probably be more aware of it.
you mean brainwashing children
@@fireunbroken7023Children are shopping around for potentisl employers based on their 'personal values'? Nobody does that for their highschool job lol. Most research has stated the obvious that younger workers want to work for businesses that reflect their politics.
@@singithi8556 are the two things I have to choose for the future generation I rather let them play them being brainwashed a 10 year old girl telling me that she is non binary now how did she learn that oh wait brainwashing also don't tell me something stupid even though I used to be just like you but not anymore and thank god I’m not
@@singithi8556 I wish I would believe you but since I'm a straight white male I can't get the job don't blame me blame TH-cam because I can't tell you the truth
As a younf worker, we don't care about politics.
We care about wages and work environments.@@singithi8556
The fact that Upper Echelon believes the McKenzie study caused this to happen for economic reasons, as opposed to being a bogus study used foe ideological reasons, is why I said he's incredibly naive.
It's also why I cant find that comment anymore.
I didnt see him claim that McKensey wasnt ideologicaly motivated (he said nothing towards their motivation at all) but that the REST of the financial world ran with it without any ideological insentive, but a financial one.
That’s what people miss. McKinsey wasn’t the cause just the excuse they could use to drive it through. TFA was already filmed before this study was released.
@@deusvermiculus1072 Do you honestly believe the financial world is that stupid that they cannot see through a single study that makes 0 sense?
That study just exists so they have something to point at so that uninvolved idiots who dont look into things are satisfied.
Anyone who reads that study over knows that its dishonestly using its stats to draw a conclusion they want.
@@donjohnson2758 EXACTLY.. and they were getting paid along the way.. they were "saving the world" and getting rich at the same time.. the last people who would be trusted to think critically
DEI and those crap are the new EBITDA so a BS ''insider'' lingo to hide margins of profit or lack there of '' looks at this EBITDA / DEI score look at them! LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS!!! only THOSE NUMBERS NOT the net profit margins PLZ!!! '' - some '' banker '' bro trying to sell you crap toxic stocks that barely brake inflation % + fees % in returns BUT MAN O MAN THEY ARE DIVERSE TOUGH !
What's wild to me is this man sat down and did all the research, and the conclusion he drew was that the financial viability was the problem. It's been over half a decade since Star wars inverted the money generator. Shit If I were to start going into examples of companies that push this to their detriment, I wouldn't even know where to stop. There comes a point when you're looking nearly 8 years back and this is still going on, that the conclusion of "they're stopping now because the profits aren't there" is just room temperature IQ.
In truth letting go of DEI is just a form of camouflage due to them realizing that people are onto them and their underlying goal of the whole thing.
Goes back 10 years at least. Everyone forgets GG1 was in 2014 and about the politicization already happening in all forms of media.
Now the DEI supporters claim it was just Mysogyny.
Smoke and mirrors. Also, TH-cam’s AI algorithm not letting me say it is just silly.
Aydin Paladin has a much better video going into studies showing pretty conclusively that there are ideological motivations involved and not purely fiscal.
Everyone also forgets that it takes at least 3 years to go from the initial draft of a script to the movie’s air date. DEI was introduced into the first Star Wars sequel the moment it was drafted and it was released into theaters in 2015. This indicates that DEI in its current form was present at least as early as 2012 and most likely even earlier. It has only recently hit critical mass of failure, but the buildup has been going on for at least 12 years.
I remember seeing this in my feed yesterday(?) and, after seeing people in the comments section mention BRIDGE and seeing others reply with “it’s in the video”, I watched all the way through and concluded he really didn’t sell BRIDGE anywhere _near_ hard enough
At least it’s finally starting to be addressed in other videos, for silver linings sake
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a grifter" Oldest grift in the book.
"You pointing out my bad faith arguments is bad faith argumentation!" is the exact same thing.
"All of those other snake oils are scams, but _mine_ works, honest!"
@@GD0nly don't tell dev that
@warlordjjj2111 I gave up on Dev ages ago, I saw in him the same behaviour I saw in people like Destiny and Mr Metokur.
@@GD0nly What did Mr. M do?
"You won, now stop looking! YEAHYEAHYEAHYEAH!"
That got me.
Filian was right about that air purifier being loud as fuck lmao
Fox hair gets everywhere?
"That vixen wasn't lyin'
That air purifier be loud"
Or something like that.
He lost me when he said that equity is good. It's only good for those on the receiving end.
Equity is only good for people who are bad at their jobs.
Equity is the direct opposite of merit.
Equity is plain bad. It's like saying robbing is good (for the thieves).
Equity is only "good" for rewarding mediocrity.
Especially when you have 10 people hired to do a job, 2 end up actually doing it, and the other 8 demand equal pay as the 2 doing the work, despite the lack of merit the 8 who did no work didn't earn.
@@isaiahwelch8066 expect some europeans to show up and tout how epic their social safety net is and how they pay less than americans for this or that. we already know, and now so does the third world. we'll see how much longer they get to enjoy that stuff.
You arent assuming willful lying, but i am.
Especially after he called everyone that thinks it's worse and more purposely malicious than he thinks it is a grifter.
:huh:
Because they are grifters, and even went as far as to sue him for defamation after he pointed out their true nature.
@singithi8556 found the lefty
@@singithi8556 "they" Who?
I said the exact same thing before i saw your comment! No way you can claim you know the information enough have enough knowledge on the topic to see someone else using that info for personal gain and come to the conclusions he came to. Hes bought off. Don’t know if its bought off with money or belief in the ideology but he did say theres nothing wrong with dei so i have my suspicions.
For such a logical-seeming creator, he really loves his appeals to emotion and strawmen.
@@singithi8556 which bait posts?
@@xyz39808ignore the other guy, he's all over the comment section reply baiting
@@singithi8556 Im talking about my opinion of him. Kirsche is a different person. If she does something right or wrong, it doesnt change my opinion of him. Whataboutism might be the strongest of all copes.
@@singithi8556 pretty sure to get baited is to be human. Weird self report.
That's the reason why I stopped watchin him, he is totally full of shit.
"TH-cam would have no reason to censor my name specifically." Oh fox lady, you underestimate yourself.
There was a video game commercial that included a clip of Yuri Besmonof. Articles criticizing the commercial called Besmonof "a conspiracy theorist" not what he actually was - an ex Russian spy
Yuri was a conspiracy _participant_ turned whistleblower, not a theorist.
The trailer was to CoD Cold War and was an absolutely epic trailer. It made so many people mad because how spot on Yuri was with modern events. The interview is frighteningly relevant.
Call of Duty Cold War
"doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, if you can't escape it, if it becomes part of your workplace, you'll just have to deal with it"
This is scarily similar to something that happened to my mom last year here in Argentina. She works at a hospital and she was forced to write an essay on "inclusivity in the workplace" or whatever to be allowed to keep working, in inclusive language no less. My mother wrote the essay in normal spanish at first because she hates inclusive language like most native spanish speakers who aren't ideologues. It was rejected and she had to rewrite it in inclusive language anyway, and again, if she refused they wouldn't allow her to work.
It's scary to think they're already trying the waters over here with the same or similar tactics, and this is not the first time they try to make people accept these views by force that I'm aware of, just the most relevant to that quote. My father treats me like a madman when I tell him all this stuff going on in the US and Europe will eventually affect us here if it succeeds over there, and most of my friends just chalk it off as conspiracy theory/terminally online nonsense (save for two who are also brothers) so I don't even bother with them.
What you just told us about is an example of *actual* colonization rhetoric. Don't let your own language and culture be protected, White -Man- Woman knows what is _actually_ best for you!
That DEI study is such cope. Minorities and Women in higher ranks probably means asians and women but they expand it to non-whites and women.
Also even if its statistically significant it doesn't mean that fast tracking minorities and women into high power positions will bring about good results.
Its probably only statistically significant in the first place because those few asians and women in those positions had to work harder than their peers to get their and are by stronger selection more qualified. Removing that selection and going even further by adding quotas you completely nullify any positives.
So this cannot actually be the start of DEI because this doesnt convince anyone to do something so stupid.
Its more a justification they can show uninvolved people who dont look too closely.
Bingo.
Every single megacorporation was created, fostered and maintained by men. All of them. Women and minorities ALWAYS come after.
🎯
I wager it is more that the bigger companies operate at an international scale so diversity becomes an outright necessity rather than actually desirable.
@@nevisysbryd7450 No it doesnt. There is nothing wrong with staffing each branch with local workers. No need to fly the indians to the US or the Americans to India.
True Diversity happens naturally when you are hiring the best of the best but that diversity is irrelevant compared to the skills that all those individuals possess.
If you in any way try to manufacture diversity you will not reap its benefits and it is likely you are doing it not to improve productivity but to push something sinister.
The worst bit for me was the comments in the video saying BRIDGE was just a rebranding of DEI clearly showing they have not looked into BRIDGE nor seen anyone look into it either.
CRT -> DEI -> ESG -> JEDI -> BRIDGE -> DEIB -> DEIBJ -> IED
I want to know who's telling them that BRIDGE is rebranded DEI, Kirshe is the source and shes made it clear it isn't, so whos mis-reporting
JEB
@@myth5588 Could you elaborate on what it is then?
@@Sephlock
As Kir herself has said several times:
BRIDGE is a tool that will be used to imbed DEI into the DNA of a company, and make pushing “the Message” part of everyone’s job, and not just the DEI-officers. These companies firing their DEI-staff are being deliberately misleading, because now every employee is a DEI-officer whether they want to be or not, and it will infect every facet of the business, from marketing, to production, to product-availability, to product-pricing.
This is BRIDGE’s own mission-statement, I don’t understand what you guys need to see how much bigger this is than a “rebrand”.
Just when we think that it is a win, we see the monster put on a new name tag.
Monsters love rebranding.
To quote Ahnuld’s film Predator, “if it seeps, we can whack it.” Not the exact quote, I know. Thank TH-cam AI for that.
Don't you know that every good boss fight has multiple phases with different forms, and when you defeat it, it just changes form again and gains 12 more bars of Hp? That's what they've been doing so far, and it's been working.
2nd health bar and remixed boss theme included
Failure by any other name is still failure. A strategy of not hiring the best (ie other than on merit) will still impact a business irrespective of the name you give it. Even if they rename/rebrand this ideology a dozen times a trend will emerge.. ie forced diversity harms businesses. That fact is inescapable.
'Everyone else is a grifter'
he says after copying Kirche's homework without crediting her, getting it wrong, and literally grifting.
Always was, he cried about muh racism and far right in his videos before
@@gfdnnfnfgnfgn His Early Life section holds the answers to his behaviour
He didn't even know Krische existed before why all assuming he is talking about her???
@@overlordshiina It's more like he did a poor job researching. You know, like if you don't cite an original source of a theory in a research paper most of your peers will think you're badly informed which then throws a bad light on your work.
@@CheeseOfMasters If you're not going to answer my comment don't bother tag me man. It's a simple question too.
I don't care what people say you are the first vtuber journalist. Keep bringing the facts and God speed.
It's crazy that I'm getting this news from an animated fox. Thanks for bring this to light, Kirsche. Frustrating times
The new and improved Fox news
The future is bizarre.
Again kirsche is the Messenger of the truth
Cherry of Truth? Or Fox of truth? 🤔
>"We need critical thinking"
>"The *REAL TRUTH* about..."
bruh
Is this the Kirsche Dev was crying about a month ago? She so based, though. Subbed!
Would you mind giving a refresher on what was he crying about? I've heard that something had happened involving one of his moderators, but can't seem to find the specifics anywhere.
Unless that's something different, then in that case I have more digging to do.
I don't know much about it, just that Dev has been sitting on the fence so much that it is now thoroughly up his ass. Kirsche is too far right for Dev (When all she seems to be doing is just fact-finding) and recently, Dev has gone more left.
@Cocytus127 Dev has never actually been a fence sitter. That's all BS from his shills. He's ALWAYS been quite left when you actually look at what defenses he uses for what companies or political subjects.
Always way easier on and more defensive of anything from the left.
She is indeed, Dev, sadly, was never based.
Yeah and by the way she likes Mistor Metokur and Josh Moon probably because they are not afraid to speak their mind and you need more people like that now than ever.
Sargon has a lot of nerve to be anti-vtuber for a guy that has regularly larped as a Mesopotamian conqueror for the last 10 years
Josh Moon doesn't like her either but he doesn't attack her Carl is more bitter against her because she's actually a fan of Jim.
to be fair.. vtubers are cringe af... but sargon is by far one of the biggest losers out there. kinda like destiny
@jerrdan100 that is such a stupid statement with no real meaning to it. It's like saying: youtubers that don't show their face and only use a PNG are cringe. Wtf does that even mean??
He is a Mesopotamian conqueror.
Mesopotatotuber pioneer
"all the diverse companies perform above the industry median"
yeah except they don't. it is easy to fund your own studies to get the articles you want....so that you can then link back to that made up information. if you actually read the research paper you can see how flawed their research methodology is. that is why research papers ALWAYS must describe their research methods in great detail. when papers don't have these descriptions it is not worth taking them serious to begin with and they will be discarded by peer reviewers by default. yet these mckensey papers get linked as if they have value :D
Literally what UE said
People really need to stop pausing video and yap about a unfinished point
The real point, and where UE gets it wrong, is that they DID have value. Those papers did exactly what they were designed to do, get companies to hire ideologues enmass. The data wasn't faulty by accident, it was deliberately skewed to achieve the desired goal.
@@masterdisciple6542 isn't what you said implied in the whole video?
Plus does UEG not realize that ESG is from Blackrock? Does he not realize the connection with the WEF? Like seriously guy just say it out loud. It's more than making money because there is always money to made.
So far as I know, Upper Echelon is firm in his belief that companies and corporations only do things for short-term profit.
This is basically the same conclusion he came to in his Parrot Analytics video, where he blamed websites like it for misguiding investors and shareholders. It seems that the notion that corpos would do something not just for profit makes no sense to him, so he dismisses it.
He also probably dismissed Kirche because she's an anime woman.
EDIT: Come to think on it, rewatching said video, it seems Upper Echelon believes that noone could truly believe in DEI because he thinks it's ridiculous. Oh, the woes of being smart to a fault.
The video in question is titled "The Company Destroying Hollywood" on his channel if you're interested.
He's not as smart or well read as he try to appear
Reminds me of Destiny's view on DEI as well. He doesn't think companies are willing to make sacrifices in the short term profit for a x10 return later. Which is delusional...
Shame. I used to enjoy his stuff.
UEG is not smart, he's good at presenting information, he's mid-intelligence at best.
I didn't claim he was smart. What I meant is that he can't fathom other people not thinking like he does. It is midwittery.
Maybe I could've put it in better words.
1:42:34 Upper Echelon: "That's what this video is... just an attempt at raw information."
Literally every bit of information he presented in his video that showed a source was filtered through other media.
No raw information what so ever.
Meanwhile, we've all gone through the full unfiltered info pages and even watched videos of them talking about it from their own mouths.
I used to watch Upper Echelon, now he is a disgrace, like many others.
@@thehairywookie-x5p Is it that bad now? like his videos are bad as a rule, not an exception?
This may be significant, because I may first and foremost be interested in a topic I'm not yet too familiar in, and I alone won't be able to know what I've been misguided on, because of the unknown unknowns.
Listen, I'm going to have to softly disagree with the man when he says diversity is a good thing. It's all well and good until you're on an engineering team where nobody can fucking understand each other. Seriously, it makes meetings and tasks that should take 15 minutes take 45 because there are constant miscommunications.
Honestly, in a general sense, diversity is neutral. In some cases, it's negative, and in some cases it's positive, but context is vital to decide which
Anyone thinking we're in the clear now is delusional.
Yup, but not as much as the people who believe that DEI is really a good thing.
I actually feel like dumbass now
I skimmed through about 2/3 of his video and left it at that, thinking "cool, another aware person, based echelon as usual"
I had no idea his conclusion was so mismatched with the general tone of the video
I can't fault him for looking at an aspect of this that isn't talked about enough, the business side. I think he could dive deeper, and hope he does, esp around ESG insurance.
But most people do not explain half the things he did and just keep screaming the w word at each other.
Its a 16min video and you skimmed through 2/3 of it?
You aware you are the normie with no attention span kirsche is talking about?
DEI angers me…but BRIDGE scares me.
Diversity for the sake of being diverse is a very bad thing. You either are organically or you are pretending and will fail. Tell your company you won't play the DEI game and will buck anything similar. 😊
It was a plot point is Transistor later on that "If everything changes nothing changes" That's their ideals at their core, they simply want to control the change they don't care if it makes things worse all they care about is that they changed it. It's basically like the kids that don't like how others are playing at recess so they tell the teachers. They didn't want to play they just didn't want others to have their peace. That's why DEI/BRIDGE is so bad.
DEI is bad because diversity by nature is a phenomenon that can only be recreated *naturally, not artificially.*
E.g; if an African guy joins the football club with the members consists of American, British and Japanese, and they go "You're welcome to join if you're interested in football" that's a Natural Diversity, a good kind imo. Because the diversity in the football club isn't the selling point but rather the activity itself; playing football because it's the commonality among the difference of race and cultures.
The bad example with the same analogy is when the members of the football club scout out an African guy who probably has no interest in football. Basically they recruit him just because he's an African, not because he's interested in football. As a result, either he doesn't contribute to the club or he lash out and try to ruin the football club's reputation to get it disbanded.
That's what happened in Hollywood. Those that were writers and actors weren't there because they have a passion to make the best film but rather they want the results of the passion; clout, money or even *cultural relevancy.* (Which is probably why DEI, BRIDGE, I&D or whatever the terms they're on now still committing this despite them falling the very logic of diversity, which might as well be their excuse/shield towards criticism.)*
The whole thing also completely disregards the nature of corporate scaling and international business in the question of why diversity has any level of correlation with success. It is entirely possible that they are more diverse not because it is natural for more successful companies to become diverse but because growing past a certain scale requires expanding to an international level which therefore _requires_ diversity which could very well be less preferable than homogeneity were if possible to achieve at scale.
So Kirsche, how does it feel to be the Person who will, historically, be remembered as the Person who unearthed Bridge?
You might just become to Bridge what Sargon became to Anita.
Becoming irrelevant would be a very bad thing for her to become.
@@mrbubbles6468 Are you implying that Sargon has become irrelevant?
@@Karaksonen Sargon has lost a massive amount of his audience and influence over the years. His attempt to become a politician has gone extremely poorly, and by focusing on politics he left his youtube audience to go find other people to watch. He still has some viewers and his podcast, but he is nowhere near where he was back when the skeptic community was a big thing.
@@mememaster695 He runs an successful business which he is trying to turn into a big english media outlet; How is that being irrelevant?
@@Karaksonen I am British, and I can tell you that no one in this country knows or cares about Sargon. He is one of many people who hang around Nigel Farrage. He has a fairly small, dedicated audience, but he is far from influential. I would be shocked if even 10% of Reform's voters know his name.
UE has a bit of a similar issues as Short Fat Otaku - there are some topics they cease or refuse to think on
for SFO it is Trump
for UE it is Elon (for some reason) and for some reason DEI/BRIDGE
I lost on him when he considered Community notes a worst thing ever without bringing any points besides telling he can 'easily manipulate them' without any example.
the bromie has a good tastes.
For me it was after Starfield or more specifically his followup to it, that was when he really showed his elitist "I'm better than everyone else and only my view is correct everyone else is stupid" aspect with elements of both sidesing, but the real lynchpin was when he started to walk back his support of previous statements of "SJW culture is ruining gaming" the latter two odious as they are can be attributed to a moment of weakness, angry at getting caught in the crossfire for liking the game but the 3rd one confirmed signs of a heel turn especially when combined. I've been afraid to confirm my suspicions since but this clinched it.
@@GodOfOrphans Oh yeah, I would not consider anything when it comes to his gaming tastes.
I have Sseth, Mandalore, Cyael, Fleekazoid and Max0r for that.
@@dandare9055 Excellent taste. TBH I can empathise with people who enjoy slop, I do too sometimes, it's when they start acting like their enjoyment of it is objective proof either of quality or that there aren't ideological elements that I take umbrage.
This ain't the first bad take from Upper Echelon Gamers. I haven't bothered with this guy in years
Well, technically he changed it to just "upper echelon," but I completely agree, he strayed from video games and things related to video games to every other area. He needs to stick to video games.
@user-ps7zq5sy1b I wouldn't necessarily mind him covering more than video games if he actually knew what he was talking about but he's gotten things wrong and then just got angry when people called him out on it
He's also a doomsayer about AI. Check out his AI videos if you'd like to see a guy completely go spazzoid over nothing.
What immediately comes to mind is the outrage regarding Starfield and the pronoun portion and how UE said it "wasn't a big deal" and was "such a non-issue."
No. For me and many others, it is a massive issue, and it will never stop being an issue for as long as I live.
I found it absolutely disappointing and disgusting that he downplayed the situation when, for so long, he was one of the few TH-cam content creators to speak up and out against this sort of nonsense.
it's funny they finally noticed kirsche talking about their bridge and are now out to discredit any way possible
at least not going noticed for so long actually helped you spread it out more :D
Respect for your strong will to uncover this matter as much as possible, this work is not appreciated enough and should be given much more attention...never give up👍
When i think about it, why would blackrock purposefully pay potential losses of companies, if not there is profit to be made by crippling companies.
The thing I wish more people would cover objectively (Which means more like UE than most of the anti-DEI youtubers) is how the ESG insurance works, and how they can make a big ESG project with 200 million of ESG funds, fail incredibly, and turn a profit.
That right there is the whole problem and why companies are fine with the complete erosion of their companies and their industries.
Well, there is profit to be made from transforming the culture.
Put simply, if major and wide reaching companies take losses over a protracted period of time, but successfully change the cultural fabric of society, they'll regain those losses and large profits in the future.
Silly and simple (somewhat historical) example: pretend the culture of today says that purple clothes are valuable and symbolic of royalty, due to the dangers of permanently dyeing fabric purple.
Then along comes someone who figures out a quick, safe, and efficient way of dyeing fabric purple. He would want to expand the culture of wearing purple fabric from just royalty, to all of the nobility, so he can make large amounts of money off of them as well.
So instead of charging them for it, for 3 years this man makes and gives away well tailored clothing in purple to many different nobles as a gift. They can't exactly turn it down if it's a gift given publicly, and soon enough there's enough nobles wearing his clothes that the culture has changed to make purple clothes fashionable for all the nobility, not just royalty.
Then he starts getting requests and commissions from nobles across the country, or perhaps the continent, for purple clothes tailored for them.
By changing the culture, he has guaranteed profits, despite operating at a loss for 3 years.
Big companies, governments, and organizations generally, who believe in the DEI ideology, use this type of reasoning. Changing purple clothing, to "If we can convince the public to buy products/watch shows based solely on 'diverse representation' or ESG scores, you'll be making money hand over fist, and have to work less to create a quality product."
Comparatively speaking, ESG scores are much easier to raise than the quality of products companies make. This is why Disney and major games studios have been pushing this so hard for almost a decade now. It's basically a cheat-code to printing money for almost 0 effort.
Same thing used to be done with religion and "good Christian companies", except they got slammed for using the religion of "pray in your homes, not on street corners" for marketing purposes.
Hope this helps.
@@Blaze4364
I agree.
But i can't quite see the potential end goal of blackrock, vanguard, etc.
I can guess that they want to commodify as many aspects of live as possible, with blackrock buying fertile land in Ucraine for cheap because of the war and next will be or is already housing.
Later maybe comes the CBDC...
Total controll.
The bigger the company the more it acts like a psychopathic person.
I still watch Upper Echelon, but I really am starting to see him fall into that pit of pretty much condemning people he thinks aren't as "smart" or "logical" as he is. The usual rabbit hole of being too neutral that he essentially blinds himself of the obvious and clear intent of the things he looks into. It's surprising how much he manages to smokescreen himself out of proper reasoning and how he resorts to calling everyone else grifters while he can't even look the evidence in the eyes, the same evidence he often shows bluntly to his audience. I'm getting tired of centrists that have no balls to take a side when things are this downright directly in front of you. Literal fence-sitters. I still think he does fantastic research... but his personal conclusions and supposed "unbiased" takes have been a stretch lately.
this is the ultimate fate of all "but both sides" types. They are forced into becoming defacto defenders of aggressors and unsavory types in order to maintain the neutral position and in so doing erode their own integrity
@@grandotaku2501, agreed. The Aristocratic Utensil has been making lots of solid points on this for quite some time now. And, for the most part, I definitely agree with him. We all have to make a decision as to where we stand when it comes to our foundational principles after all. Forcing a position/a false stance of "neutrality" will always just eventually corrode unto itself when tested by time.
Well I am tired of idiots just running there mouth with things that are easily disprovable and to be clear I am not talking about Kirsche.
Who do even think he is calling 'grifters'?
Also I am tired of cowards who make assumptions about people without doing the research and engage in tribalist brain rot of 'Us' vs 'Them'.
Collectivist tend to act the same no matter if they are on the left or the right.
The I'm a centrist shtick is often used to obfuscate the fact a person is just a coward they aren't centrists they are just cowards using it as a shield to remain Switzerland and not risk their skin, some of the other centrists I talk too will often refer to them as Centrist X in reference to gen x and the "we're the toughest generation you don't want to mess with us, we'll show you how tough we are by. Not caring and doing absolutely nothing about it with a puffed chest and maximum apathy like its cool!" It's irritating to those of us who are centrist minded bring me facts, my opinion may & can change if proven wrong. It's even more infuriating when they try to pass off their "Perpetual neutrality Syndrome" as Enlightenment (hence the gen x spin name) at some point you still have to pick a side and choose a hill to die on the whole point of being centrist is to let the facts be your guide to what side of the fence you make your stand on and hold that line until proven wrong or taken out not try to balance on it like a damn tight rope, then again centrist like me are often referred to as militant centrist because we have no issue mashing your face on said fence if you try to force us over it with ideology and feelings instead of facts. The "Right" has their own versions of the cowards sorry "Perpetual neutrality disabled" the talking heads with no direction that have talked in circles for decades about the woke and the infiltrator problems facing the west often former right establishment types but never actually doing anything about it or did even anything when they had the opportunity and in many case facilitated their now trying to sit around like they are Enlightened intellectuals passing the wisdom and will of resistance on to the next generation who'll suffer because of their inaction while still not preparing them for what's coming always with the message don't push back rely on the same captured and corrupt system like all the odds haven't been stacked against us and become a member to my channel. Christian conservatives have a version of that too the preachy do nothing god will fix it if you repent crowd or the don't fight back it's in gods hands crowd or the there's no need to fight when you have jesus the end has come give yourself to jesus crowd, always the same underlying do nothing roll over messaging. Even the left has their own versions like Tim Pool (enough said there) or Konstantin kisin who acts like it's all just a new trend that popped up in 2010 that'll die out eventually and refuses to look further cause it's a "Right wing Conspiracy theory, see look how contrarion I am guys ha ha ha!" and wants to take everyone back to square one with the same "Talks" everyone who's aware, left, right and centre over the last 100 years or so has already had for decades and still having because no one wants to address the elephant in the room and move past talking to doing because it means actual risk and addressing how it's going to end, why? Because it'll end the same way it always ends when dealing with Marxists commies, Mentally checked out Elites pumped up on delusions of godhood and with racists puppets who think they deserve something special because of the colour of their skin.
Every body wants a hero, no one wants to be the hero because it involves risking your own skin instead of sending prayers and good vibes and occasionally donating to a membership with cool little emotes. A fine example A certain orange fella nearly gets between his ears clapped and the rights response is "VOTE HARDER!" like the left hasn't been stacking that deck over generations through the captured education systems (that the right refuse to do anything about) and mass immigration, like conservatives have enough children they diligently raise to keep the left fanatics out of power forever like they aren't just going to keep going once they get back into power eventually anyway and the cycle repeats itself again even the other fanatic left strongholds will continue marching sabotaging any attempt at undoing the damage.
TDLR: plenty of cowardice to go around not just those in the centrist crowd suffering from a lack of backbone sorry "Perpetual Neutrality Syndrome" I can do PC too, Don't censor me again youtube.
@@grandotaku2501 Neutrality without drive is just apathy under a different name. Neutrality never means not taking a side when the info comes out it’s about analyzing things from an unbiased lens and following the path the information leads to even if the conclusion ends up siding with one of the political parties.
Kirsche shadow banned on youtube for going against DEI?
No
I still get her recommendations
I had to search several dozen videos down to find this channel despite explicitly searching for it.
@@alloounou6900 probably your own search suggestions, youtube suggestions are looking at what you searched for and what those that watch that kind of video looks at. If you don't look at it or stop for a while it fall off your suggestions. Then we have pushed suggestions which is another beast entirely...don't trust the bell or your timeline btw. Allways go directly to the channel
Nah even when I make new accounts, I end up back to kriche's videos in my recs one way or another.
I immediately discount anyone who unironically uses the term grifting. You can say hes looking at this from a normy perspective but how, HOW can you read what hes read claim you understand a topic to know who is attempting to use said information to obtain personal wealth and still come to those conclusions. He’s been bought off mark my words.
Him shilling that VPN at the end of the video, right after he talks about people grifting on this topic is some really good unintentional comedic timing.
@@MuffinMansBro I'd get more mad about VPN advertisements if they didn't serve an actual purpose. They're useless for most things advertised though.
You pretty much need one if you plan to play any P2P multiplayer games anymore though, if you don't want to get dox'ed by an angry teenager for hitting his car in GTA
@@BlazingOwnager Doxed by an IP address? Good fucking luck
he larped as a libertarian till he didn't like freedom of expression i guess
Guy is a smart normie and hopelessly naive regarding politics. That's honestly all there is to it.
To use an (unfriendly to the channel) example, Dev (SFO) does good philosophy and deep-dive research videos, such as his Skullgirls and Chuggaconroy videos. Dev also has absurd, naive, and wilfully blind takes on modern politics, getting increasingly so as time goes on. Dev is not stupid, he'd be easier to disregard if he was, just naive and wilfully blind for the most part.
Now I haven't (yet) read the 300 page Kirshe document about Dev and major players in his community's behaviour, but from the video Momma Occo did in the last couple days, that's a completely different situation.
Anyways, point is the Upper Echelon is just naive, and falling into the trap most smart people do of "well I know how to research from my experience with this topic, so this completely unrelated topic I'm sure I can research and find good info on, and filter out the bad, despite being completely ignorant about this".
More people need to take a Socratic approach to things, sweat to God.
Everyone needs to down vote that video. I don't believe he's not being disingenuous, he is. He read exactly what bridge was, then dismissed it. You don't need to comment on his video, just down vote it. He's keeping his viewers in the dark, and there needs to be a vote showing people don't agree with it.
Hes a lefty shill pretending to be centrist just like sfo
Thank you Kirsche Jones, your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Unfortunately Upper Echelon just do bear minimum research but i find it very sus that he skipped a lot of information.
I mean, it isn’t sus at all
He only does the bare minimum, never quotes his sources, and has a room temp IQ take on just about any topic he does a video on don’t be surprised.
@@donovangill3138 fair point
It's not sus at all, that's his content. He doesn't do deep enough research to understand the subject and therefore often misses a lot of nuances. That's why I stopped watching him actually, it just felt like I wasn't getting any new information out of anything he's talking about.
Been watching Upper Echelon for a few years now, and, while I wouldn't agree that he does the bare minimum, I do think he has been a lot more biased lately with how he forces this supposed "neutral" take on a lot of his conclusions. Hence, he seems to be leaving out more and more information that he feels would lead into something more conclusive and clear cut than he'd like. He's pretty much one of those types that thinks his own logic and reasoning is sound and unbiased when he's often, especially lately, been caught disregarding and calling out other people as grifters with zero sufficient evidence as a proper counterpoint to their findings. He used to be a lot better with how he handled data. Nowadays, he seems way too scared to give one side or the other a perceived "win" so to speak. And it's literal fence-sitting at its worst. Sadly, more and more pathetic.
It's funny when the "Oppressed revolutionaries" are simping for corporations.
Fscsm is a political system that believes that the state (that dictates the culture) should be indistinguishable from companies in a major merger between the two.
They are smpng for power, and understand when a corporation has been captured by their "state" they must preserve it to achieve their true desired end goal (establishing a Fscst state).
It isn't funny. It's strategy. They haven't changed since paperclip.
my comments get removed all the time, seemingly randomly.
im not using inappropriate language as far as i can tell
this one came through. There are many innocent words which youtube censors. For instance Bagstard's full name kept getting him demonized because youtube considers Ug*y to be a bad word
It isn't only the language you use. It seems that once you use nono words constantly your account gets flagged and your comments get hidden instantly.
@@ForumBlackwolfdave Yep, I often have completely reasonable comments deleted at this point, such that now I am more surprised when my comments remain....
@@ssharp755 It's seems to have gotten so much worse after that day. You know that 1 day where a big certain thing happened very recently.
Join the club.
Consider it a compliment, because it means they think you're dangerous and they're scared of you (and what you might say).
Kinda badass, when viewed in those terms. :)
So, Upper Eschelon is a deflector by coming to the wrong conclusions. It would explain why they wouldn't want to credit you.
Upper Echelon for the most part makes good content, but I get the feeling he has in common with Dev (Short Fat Otaku) that he gets off on being reasonable and neutral, and will always seek the "reasonable" center position on every issue.
haha yeah imagine trying to be reasonable, how unreasonable
@@powerbeard5653 Being reasonable and maintaining a veneer of reason aren't the same thing. If your schtick is being reasonable you always risk drinking your own Kool-Aid. Fortunately, UE hasn't gone too far down that path, yet.
@powerbeard5653
He not being reasonable he tries to look reasonable by being an eternal fence sitter.
If one site of the argument wants to eat shit and another wants to eat bread he will pick drinking piss because it is the middle "rational" opinion.
DEI, also known as Didn’t Earn It
Or the Latin word for God. It is their religion, after all.
@@johnparker8648 To be more precise: Deus means God, but the phrase Dei translates to “of God”. But yeah, cultism is strong with these folks.
@@johnparker8648 So, you could say it is Deus Ex Ignorantia
Lotus Eaters are Anime Racists. 🤣🤣🤣
I'm a fan of Lotus Eaters, and that is the most accurate and hilarious description.
for real, I didn't think they'd be unironic bigots about it, yet here we are. I unsubbed.
If you told me a few years ago, a fox girl with jiggly boobies would be the hero of gaming. I would have laughed my butt off.
Gaming? the west* these parasites are everywhere in everything doing the exact same thing in lockstep. If people paid the same attention to everything else going on instead of only paying attention when their bread and circus got interrupted this would of died at the boomers.
You're thinking with your simp brain. Stop that.
Never forget Echelon is a grifter. He went out of his way to defend Starfield not being woke because he loves stupid games.
I'll never fully understand why people can't seperate personal enjoyment of media from objective facts like it having ideologically motivated elements in it, yet that seems to be what breaks most people into becoming cathedralites in denial more so than anything else.
@@GodOfOrphans Exactly. I hate Insomniac Spider-Man 2 for being the woke trash it is but I did enjoy certain parts of it.
@@kenkaneki3873 I had basically the same experience with 1 it's not nearly as pronounced as it is with 2 but it's definitely there. Far from the only media I enjoyed despite such elements, it's not even close to the most extreme example either.
It's only human to not notice all the woke elements the entire point of subversion is to be insidious so of course some examples won't be obvious to the less hypervigilant but unfortuantely people get defensive when confronted with stuff they like having woke elements with proof even and then begin a donwards spiral of dishonesty and rationalization of how it somehow doesn't count and people who point it out are the real ideologues not the people who literally cannot help but insert their totalitarian ideology in everything they do. Every big game of last year had that exact pattern noticers being dogpiled by people still in the honeymoon phase of release.
@@GodOfOrphansExactly. The same applies to Baldur’s Gate 3. I loved the first Insomiac Spider-Man, but the wokeness was only ramped up in Miles Morales and 2, causing me to straight up miss them due to it. It also discouraged me from buying a PS5. But occasionally there’s a game so good that the woke elements interjected into it are mostly ignorable. BG3 had straight up beastiality and drag in it, but most of the game is incredible. I have yet to beat the third act as I hate the drag circus and Baldur’s Gate the city feels empty and lifeless to me, as the rest of the game was small villages where you were encouraged to talk to everyone, but in the city most of the NPCs have no dialogue, no identity, not even throwaway lines. It’s feels lonely and isolating. Which to be fair is pretty comparable to large cities, but it sucks. But I’ve had a blast playing through the first two acts multiple times. BG3 is easily one of my favorite games of all time, but that doesn’t mean I won’t criticize the hell out of that one city, out of the drag circus, and out of the bear sex scene. None of those add anything to the game, and they only hurt it. The same applied in the Spider-Man games. It hurt my enjoyment of the first, and as they doubled down, it forced me to miss games that I would have enjoyed as much as the first if they had just toned it down or removed it.
@@theradiantdehd3997 BG3 is infuriating because outside of the usual nonsense in the character creator it's downright based since the cult of the absolute is intentionally or not an almost perfect 1to1 allegory for marxism, but right at the tail end of act two the ideology starts creeping back in and drags the rest of the experience down down down to the gutter. And that's on top of all the other issues with Act 3
"Recalibration" and "programming" are some dystopian sounding terminology. Kinda disturbing
I watched his vid, and now I'll get to watch yours.
Edit: I'd like to say it was a mistake on his part, but I've caught myself more then once wondering about his motives so I have my doubts.
I'm going to clarify something -- from a historical perspective.
What UE, among others, doesn't get is this: What has been going on with the actual philosophy behind DEI and Bridge, Marxism, had its origins as a critique of the Industrial Revolution by Marx and Engels. This was originally an economic class struggle of the "Haves vs Have-Nots." This was Marx's original "work," if a do-nothing rich-kid grifter from 1870's Germany could actually do work.
That said, Marxism attempted to equalize the imbalance economically between the rich capitalist factory owners and poor factory workers. This led to what were the original unions in the US and elsewhere. But until the Red Revolution of 1917, Marxism never touched a society wholesale the way it did Russia, especially in the context of The Great War.
Despite the success of the Red Revolution murdering Czar Nicholas I and his family, Vladimir Lenin was dead by 1925. Josef Stalin took his place after murdering populist Leon Trotsky in Mexico City, in 1921.
Thus, for Eastern Europe, the Old Order of monarchy was dead, despite Russia being industrialized by 1905.
The actual culture war did not truly kick off until the Great Depression, when the Germans decided on socialism using the Nazis in 1932; Italy using fascism (the marriage of government to industry) with Mussolini and the Brownshirts; and with communism implemented by Stalin and the Soviets. In every Marxist economy and government a century ago, there were commonalities: No privately-owned guns in the hands of citizens. Severe oppression and repression of press, speech, and in Russia, religion. Top-down centralized control of the economy by central planners. And, severe authoritarianism by how each government treated critics. At least two countries, Russia and Germany, established concentration and prison camps for political opponents and rigged elections. And in Ukraine during the 1930s, 6 million people starved to death when Stalin sent the Russian Marxist intellectuals to collectivize the farms in Ukraine.
The "Great Experiment" by World War II was underway.
After the war, the Cold War saw the communists as the only Marxist power standing. Which is why the Soviets tried brute force-style military tactics and engagements such as Korea in the 1950s, Vietnam in the 1960s and 1970s, and Afghanistan in the 1980s, only to become so economically unstable that the USSR was no more in 1991.
Meanwhile, in the US, the capitalist nature of our economy spared us from certain economic and military destruction, despite us mirroring the Soviets more than we care to admit. However, the Marxists have always redefined language -- words, terms, and phrases -- to make their ideas more palatable. It began with "progressive" before the Great War. In the 1950s, it was "liberal." In the 1970s, it became "feminist." All of these terms has always identified a class of people in society the Marxists deem "oppressed." In the US, that identity is racial, which is tied to economics. In Eastern Europe in the 1990s, that identity was religious, as Eastern Europe is very homogenous ethnically.
This has always resulted in the perceived "oppressed group" being pseudojustufiably used, immorally and unethically, to gain power and "oppress the oppressors." This is why DEI philosophically is racist against, and prejudiced against, white people, and white men, particularly. Note: When the Marxists co-opted "feminism" as a redefined term in the 1970s, they succeeded in making gender a class identity struggle we see even now.
Today, we now see what the results of the Marxist long-term plans for the whole world are. It is perhaps one of the greatest ironies in my lifetime for a word like "woke," defined as "awake and aware," is used to describe masses of people who are actually ignorant as to the true historical nature of what we see today, and in some sense, be actually asleep because the education system failed to do its job, and educate the masses on true history. And what people like UE need to understand is, money is not the means, nor the end. The means is gaining influence with the masses, which technically costs no money whatsoever. In using redefined language, which Orwell warned about in his book _1984,_ the Marxists hope to institute a system of control that enough people support, that can, by itself, crush and destroy the opposition, which the Marxists see as their enemies worse than any abolitionist was seen by a slaveowner in 1850s America.
It is this history that people must learn, so that Marxism cannot succeed in the culture war. And of the four prongs of the Marxist war against all free peoples, whether militarily, economically, politically, or culturally, the only prong left to the Marxists is culture. All others Marxism failed to be victorious in, because culturally, the West was too strong and too cohesive. This social and cultural cohesion has been the target of Marxists who call themselves "feminists." They have tirelessly been working on the total destruction of the traditional nuclear family, gender identity that is scientifically verifiable, and other social and cultural norms that have stood the test of time.
To put things into perspective, I have read some quotes by prominent politicians, like LBJ, who was POTUS after the 1963 JFK assassination, as well as prominent feminists, and those statements echo, very closely, the Marxist notions which place the state in control of all education, control of children, and displacing biological parents when children are born. Add in the suppression of heterosexuality in favor of abnormal biological gender roles, using LGBTQ+, as well as Marxist control over entertainment and media, and the picture is crystal-clear: DEI and Bridge has been designed and implemented to indoctrinate and propagandize an unwilling global population so that those who see themselves as the social order architects can create the utopian society that Marx himself envisioned.
And what must be fundamentally understood is that the time of the Marxists persuading the world to adopt their social philosophy passed at the end of World War II. Since 1945, the Marxists have fundamentally been attempting to essentially fear-monger, intimidate, coerce, and if need be, use violence to implement their sociological changes, including government, whether the masses consent or not. This is why the UN has been a complete failure in its time, along with the USSR, and even the EU. All three of these political structures are designed to do one thing: Implement system-wide social control, while those in power insulate themselves from the masses. And fascistically, private business and enterprise, such as Disney, Campbell's Soup, and all the rest because of Blackrock and Vanguard, have copied that model. Which is why internal processes like TH-cam's appeals system is essentially an unmitigated illegal system process that continues to show itself a complete and total failure, especially where content creators like SSSniperwolf can corruptly violate actual law, but Vtuber clipper channels get removed because TH-cam fails to follow actual copyright law and the Fair Use doctrine.
In closing, if you have read this far, I appreciate you! You have shown yourself to being open-minded enough to learn history that should have always been taught, yet has been suppressed because it exposes the historical truth about the fact that DEI and Bridge is naught but the latest iteration of Marxism the Marxists are desperately trying to use to essentially engineer society, and thus control the people, thereby forcing the people to abdicate and abrogate liberties in the Marxist pursuit, and creation of, the social order they want to make reality -- whether you or I agree with them or not.
God. I can't believe the push for DEI came from another study going "hey, we did a study and found this. There isn't enough here to make a causal connection." Then the company that asked for the study just runs with it as gospel that there IS a causal connection. That shit is so common it's fucking tragic. They did the same for masks during Covid. "Hey, we did a study that found masks were 5% effective at stopping spread, but we did this in a lab in ideal conditions do not take this as proof it works IRL." Then they ran with mask mandates. It's fucking crazy how often this happens.
This is my first time watching one of your videos, and I really appreciate your "bringing receipts". It helped give a fuller context to some of the articles that Upper Echelon used, that he omitted paragraphs that said these companies were still doing the DE&I, just without the teams. I only had some vague knowledge of this topic, and feel I have a lot better understanding of what is going on with DE&I and BRIDGE. SO thank you so much for your explanations, and I will definitely have to check out and catch more of your videos.
How to write a comment without TH-cam deleting it?
I am tired of it.
The moderation tool has a bias in the worst ways its always evolving and reacting to the meta, moderation has jumped the shark.
Don't even bother I just assume all the good comments are automatically deleted no matter what idea or context, they might as well get rid of it all together at this point most of the comments left sloppy leftovers the filler stuff you scroll past or laugh at, I'm lucky to get a crude version of a normal comment passed while editing it just to pass.
I am actually interested the exact feedback auto deleted, I look to see what real people are saying elsewhere at this point and now am considering using twitter for the first time and dealing with its issues just to see real comments.
It's so bad I have trouble discussing 40k (some parts are mistaken as religion or magic maybe?) talking about the phycology of stuff like homelander (the moderation on homelander it's so bad you will find more people saying Cody Rhodes a guy playing a eudaimonic metal gear charter in wrestling is homelander then people actually talking about homelanders themes which definitely isn't possible (guess the teachings of Aristotle is somehow conservative and that's bad I guess? and or the suggestion that metal illness bad and is something to be fixed which is bad I guess?)) or the themes of Arthur Morgans (bad cowboy who becomes good cowboy and is redeemed which has redemption and redemption is inherently a constative and religious and that's bad to the bot!) like huh we at the cartoon stage now nobody would believe in a movie.
I know a lot of creators (most of the agreed on good ones by irls) are preparing for the ship to crash and making new boats like a hybrid of web 2 and web 3, the only person I see with confidence in the current web 3 meta is atroic not exactly a guy I would reckon many people will draft to their strategic council.
I tried to write a comment about the Sims and it got deleted, so yeah TH-cam sucks.
The real evil part is it persecutes accounts individually so the rules are different for everybody even following the meta doesn't work consistently. I recommend just straight up using cyphers or experimenting with different languages, the concern is that it might eventually figure those out though.
@@GodOfOrphans Just gotta encrypted all of your comments and put the key in your about page.
That wouldn't work right?
You've got to confuse the AI they have reviewing the context, never ever mention a big company, and always check your comments in a logged out browser to see if you actually got posted or got blocked. Shadowblocking comments is even more insidious than blocking them and YT won't tell anyone the rules.
DEI = Didn't Earn It
Logical conclution to, go woke go broke. Is to go woke with little or no budget. See "Live the work" and endless panels with ceos and DEI officers. Hide the message in different letters. Etc
The conclution to Didnt Earn It is that you get
"Diverse" and earned people.
End result is corporate america is become less and less white and the people who get put in power are the true believers who are also succesful in their field.
There was a time that Upper Echelon was doing good work, I started to watch less and less of them because they seem fence sit on these topics just to avoid being seen to favor the non-prog side too much. Hence why he had to call other more vocal critics of bridge as grifters.
a good journalist always sits on the fence and presents facts. then leaves the decision making up to the reader/viewer. people who can't see things from a neutral point of view are incompetent. always needing to pick sides, especially in times when there is no need, is what children do.
@@GiblixStudio He wouldn't call people like Kirsche a grifter for being more critical of bridge if he was really neutral and open to facts like a proper journalist, but I'll wait and see what he does if he ever makes contact with Kirsche
He’s right about the lot of the more vocal people though. That’s what makes him falling into those very same traps funny
He's the sort of person who believes the 'elites are too clever for us to uncover their schemes'. Ergo, all conspiracy theories must be false since we can never find them.
@@GiblixStudiohe calls entire groups of people grifters...
2 minutes in and this guys is already using the lefty argument "the other side is made of grifters".
Listening to him any further is a waste of time.
I mean, he’s right. If you can’t tell the majority of people are grifters and do not actually care you’ve not been paying attention.
dude. Dont make the fucking mistake of the left cult to think that there are no bad apples on "our" side as well.
You are telling me that Synthetic-"Freya being strong is feminist propaganda, and Atreius should "breed" the black out of Angraboda"-Man is not a grifter?
You are telling me there is no people screaming "woke" without looking into anything?
You believe there is no conspiracy theorists that come out to say this is all a cabal of old communist elites that sit together every month to plan "the worlds course" ?
Now that the pendulum has started to swing back, grifter arise naturally. Thats just what happens man!
@@mrbubbles6468You're not smart, you're just jaded. Most people who talk about something, care about that thing. This is a basic psychological fact.
Usually said right after “I’m not calling out or judging anybody”.
It’s like one of those “then the opposite happens” bits out of a Butch Heartman cartoon or something.
@@xenn4985 Especially when most of these people have been talking about it for a while...
Thanks for the expanded context with receipts. First time this channel was recommended to myself.
Might not be a plant, but he's definitely a vegetable Kirsche.
he's a plant, he has deep ties to the justice system in the USA, he's either bought out or drinks the same koolaid the corpos and politcos do.
I have a friend who works in IT, pretty high up he interacts with the millionaires running businesses in the IT sector and he came to me the other day spouting the same shit UEG was spouting that Microsoft was kicking DEI out to the curb and we were winning.
He REFUSED to listen to me about BRIDGE at all or SHRM, and when I brought up Kirsche the response was the typical "I dont take my information from an anime girl who is probably a man"
Completely neglecting the fact the dude uses the Zelda Majora's Mask moon as his avatar and calls himself Moon.
The hypocrisy of normies and those who succeeded really make me mad.
UE says "thanks for making it this far" possibly because of a video where people didn't get 30 seconds in before assuming its contents. It got silly, it was during the Sweet Baby Inc storm.
Oh yeah I remember that
A thumbnail and title on an asmongold reaction caused a whole storm on twitter for him
I mean even Kirsche did the same thing and so many people in the comment section, for some unknown reason as soon as he talked about grifters they instantly thought he was talking about them so for them he is a bad stupid guy that knows nothing about the things he is talking about....
You'd assume that his pinned comment highlighting that he didn't even know Krische existed until he saw the video would make them think but at last
I might have seen Kirsche before on an itsagundam stream thumbnail but I didn't know she was digging into Bridge and I didn't see the stream
Used to watch Upper all the time and then he kinda disappeared and came back crazier, like he lost his meds or something.
Maybe he went back to college and got indoctrinated. Or he started dating a Liberal
He seems to have a lot of hatred for "both sides", the usual BS centrists love to cope with, that being he thinks that, even when he has the information researched and archived with him, he'd rather present it in what he believes to be a "neutral" light because he doesn't want to feed one side or the other even when there's a clear indicator of a win for one. So, he'll resort to calling people grifters that have more clearcut conclusions than he does. It's sad seeing him go down this route. Been a fan of his for years, too.
I think he went lazy and centrist after his Sarfield video, where he said he got older and said he is wiser (summary) and then said he still believes what he said in previous videos "to a degree," those videos which got him millions of views. Maybe he should make a video of retracting previous videos.
@@user-ps7zq5sy1b, if he keeps doing this to the point where he'll directly attack even his own audience, he'll end up like Dev (ShortFatOtaku), JustSomeGuy, Destiny, etc.
@@user-ps7zq5sy1b That's what I was afraid of, like the instant people stop standing by their past especially if they claim to be older and wiser that's typically a sign of their T levels dropping and their stones shrinking into becoming a faux centrist. The ubiquity of these sorts of heel turns are what's driving people to the extreme ends the newly minted heels are oh so afraid of in the first place.
Calls others "grifters of higher order".
Try to position himself as the sole arbiter of "objectivity and accuracy."
Yeah, 20 seconds in and I remember why I stopped watching that hack.
Edit: Yeah, and as expected the guy that thinks himself intellectually superior to everyone else is easily fooled by the most basic strategies.
He is, like many of the people "against our side" totally incapable of understanding the concept that things like DEI are the symptom of an actual ideology and not just a business strategy.
These people have been so brainwashed by marxist propaganda about how "CaPiTaLisM" is bad and EVERYTHING they ever do is focused on money that they can't fathom the idea that said capitalism has been infiltrated by ideologues that now prioritize their political agenda over "making le money".
But they *are* grifters of the highest order.
Some people actually care. But some are literally just in it to fleece money. If your favorite creator constantly has thumbnails of glowing red eyes and titles like "DESTROYED!" or "INSTANT KARMA!!!" they are a grifter
@BlazingOwnager i find highly amusing that you just perfectly described UE and didn't realize it
You earned not only a subscribe but a notification of all videos.
Your knowledge is amazing.
Discrimination
Exclusion and
Incompetence
Getting normies to pay attention to this situation is like someone playing Baldur's Gate 1, skipping all the dialogue, then getting mad at the game for being ass and not knowing what to do or where to go.
Would of been nice if Eschy went at this with the same vim and vigor he did with Earth 2 and a couple other things...i wasn't feeling it with this vid and i actually ragequit watching it cause You did a far better job covering these literal World Takeover Villains.
@@ChazDragoon, honestly, nearly fell asleep with this one, too. And I usually am more engaged by his videos. This one was clearly just surface-level information. Felt like he's willfully ignoring tons of evidence of intent that's not for monetary gain because he thinks it'll only help people he considers or perceived as "grifters" to have more of an audience. Sadly, Upper Echelon is starting to gradually lose his way. Let's see how he'll respond (if he even does) to Kirsche. If he starts claiming that she's a grifters, that's when I'll unsub from him.
@@PsychoRavager it will certainly do a check his journalistic integrity...does he truly value it or will he be as he claims others?
Been watching UE for awhile now and saw the video earlier. Man really, REALLY needs to deep dive into it all. It's one of the rare times where he comes across as half-assing it.
I remember my first reaction to "oh whoopies we didn't realize it was unprofitable we're back tracking now" was "now they're going to just rebrand it and hide it better because it IS profitable just from investments instead of sales" and that's basically what they did, now instead of being a role in the org it's going to be part of every employees annual performance reviews.
Seems to me he is a grifter grifting about grifters.
Upper Echelon calling Grummz a grifter is the pot calling the kettle black.
When a dude leads with "trust me, these guys are just grifters," you know you're about to get grifted.
When someone thinks anyone who proclaims to agree with them is not a grifter, while spouting ridiculous titles about how 'instantly destroyed!' and 'done!' someone is, with thumbnails of fire and laser eyes, it makes me sad how deep people are into this stuff that they cannot see it for what it is
This reminds me of the ending story arc in the last two season of Stargate SG1 where an invading religion (the Ori) from another galaxy tries to take over our galaxy and it is every bit as evil as the Ori.
Hallowed are the J
Rev says desu sent me. Thank you for talking about bridge and bringing it into the light.
Ew. That man-woman-thing is a hack.
Love the LotusEaters, onya for being so on top of this - very impressive journalism and research 😊
Today someone decided to edit the VTuber Fandom profile of Kirsche to include a paragraph of what I can only consider insults out of spite.
Here is the first paragraph (supposed to be introductory) that you read upon clicking on the site:
*_"Kirsche is an overweight American Virtual streamer, often referred to as "Kir" or "Subhuman", often engages in sensationalist commentary hiding behind anime girls because she is far too ugly to present herself as is, also a huge hypocrite concerning things you can or cannot joke about."_*
Like Wikipedia, the contribution history of Fandom articles is accessible, but as long as you're logged in. This change was made at 9:05pm EST on July 19, if you want to look it up.
I do not understand how this can go through, although I might fundamentally misunderstand article hosts like Wikipedia and Fandom, I would expect changes like this to have a hard time going through.
The part of the previous introduction that was removed was as follows:
"Kirsche is an American Virtual streamer, often referred to as "Kir" or "Coconut"."
I do not know if this change has any link to this video, or any particular video for that matter. But this is the first thing people are confronted with when they search "Kirsche VTuber" and click the first link, like I just did.
I don't get why this would be let through, and I don't get what would make people decide to go out of their way to slander others. I do not think this is an inside joke from Kirsche's community (as it would be very badly executed if it was one), so I thought it was important to bring this to your attention.
I also do not want to stir the pot, whatever the pot might be in this case.
I comment about this purely because I think that kind of behaviour is wrong when directed towards anyone, and even more so in this manner. I believe hijacking collaborative informational efforts to bring someone down is morally unjustifiable.
Edit: I checked a bit further and the account responsible for the change seems to have been created solely for that purpose, having only that one contribution in its history as well as having the "New Account" and "New Editor" tag. I find the username chosen by that person to be quite ironic, but I specifically chose not to outright mention it, because of what I said in my original message.
@@mozvi1436thanks for bringing this to light
Thank you to the person that re-edited the article back to how it was very quickly after. I didn't feel like I was the right person to do it since this video was the first exposure to Kirsche that I had.
P.S (to the editor): your bio info is great
P.P.S: Thank you for this video Kirsche, I might have fallen into the rabbit hole too now.
Sounds like one of Destiny cucked fans. 😂
Been lurking for awhile and I have to say Kirsche, you're one of the only news sources I respect. I'm seriously considering getting into non-profit streaming because of the quality of your work, both as an entertainer and as a highly credible source of current news. Keep up the good work, I wish I could support you better.
In working for a company who touts DEIA as a benefit, even the company doesn't understand that Microsoft didn't dump their DEI staff and budget because DEI bad. But because they are restructuring using BRIDGE.
They've never heard of BRIDGE.
That's where government funded programs are. It's top-down, and need-to-know.
We need to share this information. Share this video to all other channel that are against DEI
That’s kinda funny that companies were threatened if they didn’t use DEI and now in real time, customers are threatening and actively not buying their crap for using DEI and making garage.
Thanks for bringing this to light. I almost thought we were in the green. 👍
Simply listening the people who are pushing this speak sickens me. People like Larry Fink are merely furthering the same thing that Yuri Bezmenov warned us about.
That reply-guy at the end reads like a GPT prompt
Upper Echelon has been having a lot of bad takes recently, because hes trying to force neutral opinions, on thing's that are totally Politically Left or Right, calling out stupidity on the Left and Right what neds done now, not trying to be a Centerist about everything.
Oh God it's boggie all over again!
That is kind of part of what being a centrist is, as well as a moderate, to be fair
@@christophermonteith2774 The problem with that is simple: if one side continues to moving in their direction, the center moves with it.
Fence sitters are the worst group in the political spectrum
Wow, I watched the stream last night for a bit but did not get to this point in Echelons video and figured his refusal to accept what he is literally reading himself might just be a kind of normalcy bias dialed up to a thousand, but after hearing him claim "It's not as bad as some people [grifters], as he primed the audience at the beginning, make it out to be" and sarcastically says "DEI is the driving force behind destroying Gaming" after literally having covered GamerGate2. Beyond "normie", if you even have a minimal desire to find truth, this is not how you argue.
Man he's become so obnoxious in the past moths
kirsche you need to understand that UEG plays the clickbait game. so of course he has to apologize for not being instantly gripping every 2 minutes
I used to watch him.all the time, he had some good videos, but he always lacks a real understanding of a subject, and I noticed that when he talked about stuff that I am at least a little informed.
This was a reason I stopped watching him that much
Pretty sure I'm done with Upper Echelon after this. So much factually wrong bullshit in his video, plus the increasing amount of Appeals to Emotions in his videos these days.
I work for a major IT firm and had an American survey sent to all of us britbongs.
I'd say half the questions were "how much do you love (aspect) of DEI?"
I knew it was a trap. You put anything negative, you'll be on their shitlist.
Then of course, they disclose everyone loves DEI. Aside from a few people, who are now long gone.
Great video again Kirsche! I went to the business college in Finland that is actually funded by Microsoft so i get to talk with a lot of people from corpo sphere ( Yes you probably do wonder why Finlands biggest business college is funded by an american company?) Anyways all this kinda stuff was kinda on prototype phase when i was in there, but more like a business suggestions than an actual solid foundations.
Now i have a little hack or a tip to handle this, because i spoke with a lot of business people (They are most lifeless and souless husks you ever meet and only really talk with powerpoints and pizza charts) but what is true for this day is that everything in business is decided in 2 years delay. This is universal way of making decisions on business sphere so what i advice everyone to do is not blindly start supporting these companies as soon they change their stuff, but wait for the 2 years and see if things change. Activists problem is that they are really impatient and wanna change to happen now, but if you chill and take 2 years of breaks from these companies and see what have changed every time when two years have been passed. That way they can't really do anything.
NOTE this is only how it works business wise of course you need to push back things so you can't just chill in that way, but if you wanna boycott then 2 years breaks and see what changes.