THE BEST QUEEN! - House of The Dragon Episode 10 Reaction
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Suzy & Steejo finally react to House of The Dragon. House of the Dragon is an American fantasy drama television series created by George R. R. Martin and Ryan Condal for HBO. A prequel to Game of Thrones (2011-2019), it is the second television series in the A Song of Ice and Fire franchise.
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Thank you for all the love on GOT & HOTD. See you next week for a new adventure together! - Suzy and Steejo
Thank you for all the reactions. It’s been fun watching with you guys.!!
Can't wait to re-watch vikings with yall
Oh my goodness I hope we get a Breaking Bad reaction
I was going to say something nice then realized you called us dumb 😮
But we need Outlander, though!
"And with his death, the war of ravens and envoys and marriage pacts came to an end, and the war of fire and blood began in earnest.”
Seeing Luke/Rhaenyra get their comeuppance was so satisfying.
9 episodes of plot armor and BS preventing Rhaenyra from facing any consequences for her mistakes. All can be thrown out now that the war has started.
@@DanLanningPRTeam yuck
I love when people comment book passages. 😊
I love when people comment book passages. 😊
@@KatBee00 I mean it’s 100% true. Literally a whole season where she does not not face the consequences for her actions once until the finale.
Luke took Aemmond´s eye NOT Jace, Jace was the one who threw the sand in his face. - The 3rd dragon was Rhaenys with Mellys . She said she wanted to patrol the Gullet herself
it was jacaerys dragon vermax who eat the goat come on keep up
@@anonymous-bb2dw Come on be KIND and less condescending. Everyone misremembers something sometimes.
Oh, the irony 😂
@@beautifulbluebell2037 someone can't take irony
@@anonymous-bb2dw Maybe someone should look up the meaning of irony.
Old dragons are slow but STRONG, and the books explain that it takes a lot of strength to fly in a storm - specifically says that if it wasn't in a storm Arrax would have had speed on his side, but as it was a heavy storm, he was struggling just to stay in the air.
And Vhagar also had plenty of combat experience, and a "killer instinct". Viserys' warning that "The Targaryens control the dragons" was an illusion played out in this situation. Both Luke and Aemond lost control of their dragons, the result was the first battle of the war.
51:43 "It was at this moment Aemon knew he f**ked up". 😂
The reason for the childbirth scene was to show she birthed a dragon, with scales like Dany did. I totally missed it on my first viewing so not surprised they did as well. But there was a reason for the scene and the length of time they spent on it.
It was absolutely not needed
@@leonrobinson2475 didn't say it was needed, said there was a reason 😉
I understand why most of people had missed it, it was too long, horrific and we would rather not look. I wish they had shown that the birth was difficult and then someone in the dialog would told us that the baby had the dragon features.
Yeah, I really only caught on to the dragon features when I saw the artist who made the prosthetic fetus posted a non bloody version on their Instagram... Because yeah in the show it's so covered in gunk you can't really see the details...
You know I would be curious if visenya actually survived if she might have had some dragon features like some scales it would have been cool and if many people would be in awe of her not disgust since she would look like a dragon and many would see her as a god. Targaryens say they are the blood of the dragon and they don’t mean that figuratively it is literally as well they are hybrids human/dragon hybrids and that’s why still borns come out looking like hybrids since they haven’t fully formed in the womb to get human features. I just think everyone would look to her as a god especially the small folk if she looks part dragon.
He didn’t want to kill him. He was really just toying with him until the dragons didn’t heed their commands.
I don't think he was toying, but he definitely didn't want him dead either.
Prophecy is really important to the Targaryens because it was due to a prophecy that they survived the Doom of Valyria and became the last dragonriders in the world.
Their ancestor, Daenys the Dreamer, had a dream of the Doom 12 years before it happened. Daenys' father, Aenar Targaryen, believed her and moved the family to Dragonstone. The Doom happened 12 years later.
Also, if you take into account Aegon's dream - he dreamt of the Long Night. This led to him conquering Westeros which he was successful in which would only lead succeeding Targaryens to further believe in the importance of prophecy.
Fun fact, Cersei hated Tyrion because of a prophecy. That women she went to who told her the future about her children also told her (in the books) that her brother would be the one to kill her. The show omitted this. Cersei always thought this brother would be Tyrion. Many book readers believe it will be Jaime (another reason people hated his character end in the show. They made him Cersei's bitch again in the end).
Daemon wanted to let those guards (who had not yet sworn one way or the other that if they swore fealty only to switch sides later he’d be coming for them.
The birth scene showed that Rhaenyra and her dragon have a deep connection with the dragon feeling her pain as she labored
Yeah, the birth scene showed the targaryens connection to their dragon and additionally showed lore within the Targaryen family. The targaryens are drawn to incest for fantasy magical reasons to keep the dragon riding blood pure... But it also increases the risk of premature stillborn babies that have dragon-like features when birthed (like Daenerys also experiences in GOT with her premature babe). The artist who did the prosthesis for the stillborn fetus in the show posted a not-drenched-in-blood version on their Instagram and when you can see all of the minute details of the prosthetic baby, and it is EXTREMELY detailed and a beautiful piece of art, truely... It has scales like a dragon... So yeah I think the scene definitely wasn't unnecessary as it had a COUPLE of purposes. But also I can understand why these two potentially thought it to just be gratuitous gore for gratuitous gores' sake, in the moment.
Aegon was crowned with the crown of Aegon the Conqueror
I like how the crown seems to fit ackwardly on his head, as a reference to how inadequate he is.
@@Raminagrobisfr yesssss
@@Raminagrobisfr Still not inadequate enough as queen who called 'Meagor with Teats' 😂
@@RaminagrobisfrStill greater than Rhaenyra Aka Maegor with teats😂
@@Raminagrobisfr yet he was somehow a better ruler compared to rhaenyra when she sat the throne for like 6 months
she did more damage to the realm than 10 Aegons could
It's exactly like Viserys said: "The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion. They're a power men should never have trifled with." It's exactly what we see at the end of this episode. The dragons do what is their instinct, not what their riders tell them to do.
Luc took his eye. That's why Alicent wanted Criston to bring her Lucerys' eye in that episode. 😊
If only Luke could have stopped Arrax from flame blasting Vhagar causing Vhagar to go kill mode
@@DanLanningPRTeam if only aemond wasn’t chasing after him in the first place
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince if only Luke had given the eye years ago then he'd be alive today.
How'd they even miss that?💀
@@jessi17miel aemond said he didn’t care about his eye after getting a dragon…which is it? Lmao
The baby was a dragon birth, like Dany's Rhaego. Because the Targs have dragon blood, from time to time babies are miscarried or stillborn with reptilian features. Rhaenys is waiting on Corlys' decision regarding choosing sides, and will follow her husband's decision.
I don't think she was just following her husband's decision. Corlys didn't want to support Rhaenyra, but Rhaenys pursued her husband and in the end, they both went to fight for the black. BUT yes, she couldn't make a decision regarding the sides, because she wasn't representing the house Velaryon by herself.
Aemond just wanted to scare Luke, but he took it too far and lost control of his dragon. He fucked up real bad. You can hear him shouting no as Vhagar chomps on poor Luke
It was intentional in the book
Yeah, they softened a lot of characters in the show@@shukei26
"the idea that we control the dragons is an illusion" said Viserys in ep1
@@shukei26 I mean no one was there. It could have played out just like it did in the show but is remembered by historians as an intentional act.
@@shukei26 well in the book Rhaenyra was Maegor w tits so... yeah seems legit.
43:49 Daemon's gonna mess up the war? Without him, The Blacks are a lost cause.
I want to say in the books Otto hand the sense not to go to dragon stone himself he sent a maester to do it. He had the sense to know that Rhaenerya and Daemon would’ve killed him as soon as they see him after everything he did. Show sent him for dramatic effect but still need him alive for stuff later. It considered massively disrespectful for him to go himself and say that though.
“It’s choosing sides that stared the whole mess” -Princess Shireen Baratheon to her father in the Dance of Dragons
Shireen herself is a direct descendant of Rhaenyra and Daemon through her paternal great-granma (which was a targ) but her House, the Baratheons fought on the green side, Aegon's side.
Ohhh. Interesting. I love book details. @@Alejojojo6
@@Alejojojo6 yeah and Baelor the Befuddled, Daeron the Dumbass, and Aegon the Unworthy. Not a great line to be proud of tbh.
@@Alejojojo6 this would explain why and how Stannis feels the way he feels about Rhaenyra by calling her a usurper, even though the King chose her.
The dumbest thing she ever said
I ABSOLUTELY love the chemistry between both of you!!!
Since you asked about the book narrator: the book is actually someone combining at least 3 different accounts of the events and sometimes those different accounts disagree about some of the events that happen and why, so often it's up to the reader to decide for themselves what happened and why. I actually like that the show has preserved some of that vagueness by skipping around in time and not always having characters state their motives. It lets people have different perspectives of the story, as you can see from reading your comments. Loved the comments and I'm excited to see what you watch next.
And the books are supposed to have been written 150 years after HotD, so the Maesters are not at all dealing with events in the memories of living people. Even when the source materials for the books do not contradict each other, there is plenty of room for the books to be in error or to be putting a “modern” spin on history.
53:39 lol I feel that anger, esp in the moment. Luke and his dragon were so cute 😢😢😢😢 they didn't deserve that
51:02 the entire scene at the end with Vhagar and Arrax will always be the perfect example of when Viserys said “The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion”
you guys still didn't understood daemon's character and its ok he is a complex one. his ambitions are smaller than he's love for his family.
29:15 Aegon wears the crown of Aegon the Conqueror, which was worn by Aegon and Maegor before.
Rhaenyra wears the crown that was made for Jaehaerys and then became Viserys' crown
In the book, one of Borros’ daughters who wasn’t chosen told Aemond “I wouldn’t want a handicap half man anyways” basically and Luke showed up who maimed him, so he definitely got triggered. But he never meant to kill his nephew, just scare him.
Shows dragons have their own mind and emotions and can get pissed off
The connection between dragon and rider is on an emotional level. In the book, Vhagar screamed when Aemond's eye was cut out, she feels his pain, anger and hatred that the criminals went unpunished. The consequences for the body after losing an eye are pain for the rest of your life. The dragon always feels everything; the priority for the dragon is preserving the life of the rider. Vhagar did not listen to Aemond because she was protecting him and herself. For Vhagar, Aemond's life is more important than his orders.
yes and vhagar has seen combat with other dragons before and is alot less hesitant to go for a killing blow
Aemond knows it's a declaration of war... He wanted to scare him, not kill him. He fucker up spectacularly
The book this is based on is written somewhere near the year 300 by a maester at the citadel, this happened 200 years ago so he gathers old letters, maester journals and and testimony's people have made. mainly he uses three sources who were there and who left behind their account of the events.
1. Orwyle the black maester - who wrote down what happened from his perspective.
2 Septon Eustace - a priest of the seven (alicents faith)
3. Mushroom a dwarf jester, you see him briefly playing the drums at rhaeneras wedding.
all of these three wrote what happened long after the war ended and all of them have very biased accounting, and the book brings up all examples of events before saying well most likely this happened or we will never know. The show has a lot of liberty with this and just tells their own story with it since it can be adapted in many ways. for example. rhaenyra sleeping with Criston goes like this.
Orwyle says Criston wanted to sleep with her but she was only interested in daemon.
Septon said Criston was a knight who took holy vows so of course he didnt have any interest in her but she tried to seduce him but he refused her.
Mushroom says rhaenyra slept with Daemon to practice to seduce Criston but before she could he found her in bed with Daemon and that made him furious. (mushrooms versions are always the most violent and sexual as possible, i believe he claims rhaenyra slept with him too.)
Same things goes with what happened when lord beesbury got killed, one says he got killed in the room, one other said he just got imprisoned and then died and mushroom says a serving maid dropped honey on the floor and he slipped on it and fell out the window getting implaed on spikes. and so on and on with everything else.
Aemond: No Vhagar! No!
👵Vhagar: Don't worry Visenya. I got this.
Dornish Flashbacks 😎
Interesting thing I never noticed until now. Doesn’t matter if Luke is stressed or Calm he speaks to his dragon in high Valyrian. Aemond speaks Valyrian when he is confident and feeling himself. The moment Aemond gets stressed out he speaks English to Vhegar 😂
Lmao😂
It seems to me that lucerys was fluent like his mother was in high Valyrian at her age since it was the only language she would speak to daemon and viserys but mainly daemon. Lucerys definitely seems fluent since how easily he speaks it probably more fluent than jace.
Daemon does not want the throne lol he just wants his wife birthright returned to her…writers confirmed daemon never wanted the throne only his brother approval. Great reaction btw and can’t wait for you guys to react to season 2.
The child birth scenes in the series has been VERY important, it's a reality women had to face during times in history without the technology to assist. Sometimes grotesque things are needed to be shown and seen in its entierty so as to stress the point. I am not a mother but I asside from loving this series and my fave too our peaceful King Viserys, I really appreciated the severe, and extreme, life threatening birth scenes because it was a reality. Art is supposed to bring out emotions, any emotions. It is supposed to move you whether good or bad or revolted. That is the purpose of art.
I think that you can portray the brutality of medieval child birth without resorting to grousome shock factor scenes. IMO it was for publicity. - Steejo
@@SuzySteejoand IMO I disagree, because it was clearly, PURPOSEFULLY done that way, to be as authentic to the story as possible and not for publicity. The birth scenes, iirc, were not (blatantly) in promo trailers. No one (media, reactors, reviewers) even talks about the childbirth scenes, outside of when watching the eps where it happens. I think you are reaching, by saying it's for publicity. There is no evidence to support that.
It must be understood that sometimes things need to be shocking. Especially in series/film that allow for it. There are many examples like this in history. Films about war/human rights can be VERY grotesque and violent, but IS very much needed to portray the horrors, or else how can people truly imagine it. Nope. Sometimes it must be seen. And as one commentor so brilliantly quoted, Queen Aemma said in ep1, that the birth bed is their battlefield. And the series decided to REALLY show that, which is excellent storytelling.
@@SuzySteejoSHock factor would be explicitly showing them pulling the kids out in full view and detail. What we have is very tasteful.
Aemond wasn't happy because he never meant that to happen. He told Vhagar not to go after him. But when Arrax spit fire at the old lady because he was so scared old lady got pissed. Aemond just wanted to scar Luce, and never meant to kill him, maybe hurt a bit because he's a sick but nut actually kill. THAT'S why he looked like that.
It's funny how much of a turn everyone makes from GoT to HotD, especially when it comes to egging on Rhaenyra to go on the offence early in the episode. 😃
Up until this point, I think most show-only viewers hadn't considered how much of an advantage Vhagar really means for the Greens.
Rhaenyra wasn’t being dumb by not going to war with the Hightowers. She just wanted to avoid bloodshed and win through diplomacy. Unfortunately things didn’t go to plan.
Aegons crown is also made of valyrian steel, worn by Aegon the conqueror.
THANK YOU Steejo for getting it. In a feudal society the King is the ultimate law and if he chooses to change the succession from eldest male to the eldest child that’s his right. Would love to see you guys react that the season 2 trailer.
The thing that I never understood about the Greens is that Rhaenyra is a Targaryen so therefore she has the royal lineage. Who cares if her sons weren't fathered by Laenor? She's the royal bloodline, not him. It's a totally different situation than with Joffrey, for example, because Robert was the royal bloodline and Joffrey was not fathered by Robert.
Exactly!!!
According to the laws (not me, the laws hahaha), Rhaenyra coudn't inherit the throne because she isn't a firstborn son. In GOT everybody "knew" Joffrey was the first trueborn kid(of course not) of Robert n Cersei.
@@Shuy-vw9br the King and council CHANGED that law though, period. They even had the ceremony with all the horses swearing fealty. So, the LAW was CHANGED.
@@monlovchel Well they did change it, right? Even you emphasizing this change, in succeeding ages after this, was the inheritance of thrones conducted as you suggest?
Oldest males come first, older brother comes first before a younger, bastards don’t inherit anything. These are the rules of the medieval world, idk why people try to insert their own ideas.
No one is morally good in this story but most people love the blacks
The only thing the blacks have going for them is Daemon.
@@Adanu191I still don't understand why would anyone root for daemon(show) he killed his wife, one of the main reason rhaeneyra's marriage was hastened, even now cares nothing but for him and his kids with rhaeneyra to be king...... Wants war only because he hates otto....... Also the fact that he tells himself that the greens murdered him. (A male lysa tully)
@@Durran196 You seem to be under the impression morality is a good way to judge characters. I do not judge characters by morality.
@@BornInsane0 Although, I believe that Alicent's portrayal in the show was a bit more sympathetic than in the book.
@@Durran196 People like Daemon as a character, because he´s complex and amazingly well written. They root for him is because of how loyal he is to his family and the people he trusts, however, they only focus on the good side of him, completely ignoring some terrible things he´s done, which is why we simply shouldn´t root for anyone, nor pick sides. Because all the characters have done some good things and some very bad ones as well
Vhagar be like: *ARRAX SHOT FIRST! IT'S NO LONGER A WAR CRIME! LET'S FOOKIN' GOOOOO!*
"Did that teenager just slap me? Oh no, now it's on. Grandma is going to whoop some ass and have herself a snack"
HAHAHAHAHAH
Vhagar: FK THIS XIT, I'LL GO FOR THE KILL.
Daemon only cares about his family not the Throne, he loved his brother.
So the books are written from the point of view from a jester and a historian and they recollect the events of house of dragon and they both have different sides and different versions of the same event. The historian is very by the books and gets his sources from royals while the jester, he talks to the people from the underground and does a more dramatic interpretation. It’s up to you how to decipher the books, but in the show it is supposed to be exactly what actually happened, stated by mr gorge ER Martin lol
The reason for all the childbirth is in this world, that’s a woman’s battlefield and it shows how incredibly amazing women r in their own right. Rhaenyra’s mom said it in the first episode, the birthing bed is out battlefield. I think it’s awesome. Unlike most nonsense Hollywood shows (women being amazing at everything but motherhood)….
The point is that before modern times childbirth was downright dangerous for women. We find it very graphic and shocking today but it was stark reality for almost all women for most of human history.
I liked that they focused on child birth instead of sex like GOT.
It's interesting how male characters can be great at everything & it's fine lol
@@gunkulator1 yup I’ve watched modern childbirth and it still looks just like that if u do it by squatting with a mid-wife. What always bothers me is GOT and HOD r extremely violent but that doesn’t bother folks as much as this. Like Ramsey Bolton skinned people alive and they r worried about child birth? Lol
52:10 maybe it was the fact that he was screaming "NOO!! NOOO! VHAGAR NOOOO!!!"
"Where's tyrion?" Not born to fuck up things for dany yet.
The crowning is so emotional...
I wish we would have gotten a scene like that for Dany. Emilia Clarke would look fabulous...
Rhaenyra is a bad ass. I can't imagine having a sane thought after going through what she did.
Vhagar is also the grandma of Arrax (Luke's dragon) so when Arrax puffed some fire at her she was like "a'ight listen here you little $hit" 😅
I think Luc is the one who picked up Jace’s knife and took Aemon’s eye. Because I remember Alicent telling Chadley, “Bring me the eye of Lucerys Targaryen,” and that he was the littlest child in the room.
The childbirth thing in this episode was necessary to show that she was having a BATTLE with her own body. She needed to be doing Queen things and could not because she went into labor, and that scene showed her determination. It was powerful!
" Childbirth is our battlefield, Rhaenyra "
Yaaaaaaaaas!!! Poor rhaenrya loses her father, her baby and her son and her throne within days!!! If any1 had the excuse to burn down the red keep it’s her lol!
"The Red Keep has never fallen." - Cersei
@@sproductionsinc famous last words 😆
History will show why she was just as unfit to rule as her brother was.
hahah agreed!
The prophecy is the reason why aegon I decided to conquer Westeros in the first place.
54:45 who someone's heirs are is one of the most important aspects of the legitimacy of a claim to the throne.
57:35 "I feel like you could have communicated that better without being so visual" indeed, as the saying goes, "Tell, don't show!" Oh wait its the opposite.
How do you still not trust Damon, he was always loyal to his brother and he’s loyal to rhaenyra
To those who have just started reading the books, as good as the first few are they don't truly start to diverge from the show until the end of book three.
I hope you both react to the season 2 teaser! I’m glad you enjoyed the show!
aemond was trying to scare luke but they both lost control of their dragons. you can hear them both yelling no to their dragons. rhaenyra losing her father, her baby, and the throne all in one episode is absolutely insane, can't even image what shes going through. can't wait to see your guys reactions for next season!
like a truck driver trying to scare an annoying cyclist - and then accidentially runs over him
I get your point about the birth scene. But my oh my, I do love them, they are so impactful, and necessary. Especially this last one. Young Rhaenyra talked about the fear of being just a royal womb, doing your duty to produce heir even if it means losing your life just like her mom. Child birth somehow synonymous with the theme of losing/taken away. A violent one.
When Joffrey was born she lost her baby daddy (or being taken away from her). Now she lost her 2 children & the throne (again, being taken away from her). And for me the graphic birth scene really underlined that theme: the raw violent pain of losing. And they did it GoT style, just lay it bare as it is, messy and all. Blood, gooey, and pull-baby-out-Queen-style. Gut wrenching. Yet, so badass.
I love how Rhaenys thought of Jace, Luke and Joffery when it came to who she will ally with. Like they know they aren't their "true" grandkids but it still doesn't matter, they care about the kids genuinely. Also it was Rhaenys flying with Jace and Luke, she said she would patrol the gullet to stop trade.
I love Suzy's reaction to Team Green, had me dying and it is exactly how i felt, and YES Steejo, this first season very much was a prequel. A lot of this season is one chapter in the books and in one is titled "Seeds of War" so it very much was just setting up the real story, The Dance of Dragons.
Aegon got Aegon the conquerors crown. A plain ringlet of valyrian steel embedded with rubies. It was given to him to remind everyone that he is the legitimate heir of house targaryen along with the sword Blackfyre
It's funny how you'll use and follow the rules when they benefit the argument you want to make but as soon as they don't as soon as they become slightly inconvenient you'll abandon them.
Everyone does that. We’re humans, not machines. How we feel about things matters just as much as the logic behind our reasoning. It’s how we are and you should get over it 😅
@@MsAaannaaa I mean you could try to have consistency in your arguments.
as someone who has watched HODTD i love these videos so much, you guys are by far the most entertaining reaction channel ive watched.
Vhagar,despite being giant and old, is not slow, she is also the only Dragon who has knowledge of battle strategy. She is no longer at her peak, but she is wise.
The birth scene was there to show Rhaenyra’s loss - that Alicent’s actions may have directly led to the death of her only daughter, one of many losses that drive her over the edge.
Did it have to be that brutal, probably not.
Great reaction, guys. A couple of things:
1.Lucerys did take Aemond's eye.
2.Rhaenyra having bastards is indeed an issue. She committed treason which stripes her of any claim she previously had. Plus, she messes with the succession line as the iron throne will eventually end up to illegitimate sons. Having a bastard king while there are trueborn Targeryan sons means that Rhanyra is in turn usurping her brother's birthright.
3.The scene with Aemond and Lucerys confirms how much he took to the heart his father's reaction. He never was ok with loosing an eye for gaining a dragon. He said what he said to protect his mother when he realised Viserys simply didn't care about his "second" family. Visery's in my opinion is the one to blame for this mess. Every single desicion he made was wrong and eventually led to the destruction of his own house.
Ps. I'm neither team black nor green. I have favourites on both. I know that from my comment it seems like I support the greens but I just find that people have a harder time getting their perspective. 😅
The thing is that most people interpret things by today's values and standards and fail to see how seriously questionable Rhaenyra's actions are under a different value system and code of honour.
You nailed it
In terms of who got what crown, Aegon got Aegon the Conquerors crown which had been kept safe for years, and Rhaenyra has Viserys crown
One thing that worries me about the show is a couple things were made "accidents" that were not accidents in the book. I hope they dont make a certain thing that should happen next season an "accident" to make the greens look better. B and C
I share that concern too. But I think even despite that, most of people will blindly choose the Back side anyways.
As viserys said daemon has ambition yes but not for the throne
Daemon is all for family & valyrian culture, he's the greyest character as George himself has said, he's very loyal to his family
&he's a good dad
It was actually Luke, who took Aemond’s eye. This was Aemond’s chance to even a score, but of course Luke wasn’t down for it.
He did score it though. Got his revenge by killing him.
I love all the call backs to earlier in the season in the finale. Daemon’s side vs Otto’s side on the steps with Rhaenyra flying in. Jace saying that Dragon Riders should bear the messages, like Rhaenyra said to her father. *chefs kiss* is it August yet?!?!?!
Before Rhaenyra and a potential baby boy, who was the heir to the Iron Throne? Daemon. For 14+ years, it's been Daemon. Yet, in all that time, did Viserys ever confide in him about the Song of Ice and Fire? Not once. That's what pissed him off. Wasn't Rhaenyra, wasn't the throne. All he ever wanted was to be close to his family, and Viserys apparently never even saw him as an heir.
Aemond just wanted to scare Luke. Luke had to rely on his dragon to go through the storm, he couldn't see a thing.
I'm sure Vhagar, the oldest dragon alive, is very well-versed in intimidation. She could've killed Arrax a few times there and there. Arrax, however, is a small puppy in comparison, who got really scared for his master and decided to fight back to defend him. Didn't really hurt Vhagar but pissed her off completely.
Aemond made an ancient war dragon scare a small inexperienced baby dragon that loved his master the most and didn't think something could go wrong. But he never meant to kill him.
"The idea that we control dragons is an illusion", Viserys.
@@lucasbelmonte2832 Daemon had immense respect for his ancestry, so I do believe that was just an excuse to deny his brother’s objective.
I don’t think his anger was directed at Rhaenyra. He was angry with everyone, all the time, except for her.
But, yes, he wanted war, he wanted to avenge his brother and his wife, and she had different plans, that definitely frustrated him.
I think the birth scene was meant to highlight how connected the dragons are to their rider's emotions. So that when Arrax attacked Vhagar and vice versa, we understood that they weren't commanded by their riders and that the dragons attacked based off Aemon and Luke's hatred for each other.
Loved the consistent uploads on HoTD 🐉 That dragon chomp scene was one of the coolest things I’ve seen.
A dream?? Targaryens don't just dream... they have prophetic dreams, it's well known, that's how they survived the Doom of Valyria. So they can't afford to ignore dreams that look like that... As far as Visaerys or Rhaenyra know the end of the world could come at any moment, what if Westeros is burning, its armies destroyed after a long civil war??? It is something to take into consideration.
Aemond didn't want to kill Luke, he was just messing around. But Arrax took action disobeying Luke, and Vhagar went for the kill.
Wtf are you saying? Vhgar tried to eat him multiple times before arrax did anything stop being a stan
You have to understand that Arrax is a baby dragon, he grew up with Luc. The connection between the two is similar to Rhaenyra and her dragon, they feel each others fears. Vhagar is a WAR dragon, Aemond decided to play around and scare Luc not really comprehending the fact that dragons are not slaves. They have minds of their own and Vhagar probably assumed that this was a kill moment. Aemond was losing control the moment he made the decision to go after Luc, Vhagar was already trying to kill them before Aemond realized.
@@alliereed2002 Agreed. Was indeed a really bad moment for the kid and the lil dragon. =/
waiting for suzy to flip a table... arrax is faster than vhagar because her size and old age slows her down but the storm affected arrax badly while vhagar was heavy enough for it to have no effect
I am a man of 43, and now after the season of this show, I think I know everything about childbirth.😊
Luke took Aemonds eye. It was Jace knife, but he dropped it and Luke took it & took Aemonds eye.
33:50 Great scene for Daemon lovers 😂
The dragon that Daemon is singing to is Vermithor. Vermithor belonged to King Jaehaerys Targaryen, the old king at the beginning of the show that was king before Viserys. Vermithor is the 2nd oldest and 2nd biggest dragon currently and does not have a rider.
Luke took his 👁.. & it was Rayneys on the 3rd dragon that flew out
There's a reason they showed the baby scene this time, actually. Most people miss it but....the baby is deformed...it's missing a limb, has some scales on its head, and there's two tiny little bumps where dragon horns would be, on the back of the head. You can only see it for a few frames and most people are, understandably, not looking super close.
So, much like Dany's baby was born dead with dragon-like features, so was Raenyra's (and a bunch of other targ babies throughout history.) The genetic curse of the Targs....there's fan theories on why it happens but I won't spoil that.
Thanks guys for your amazing reactions on season 1, see you again soon as you'll be reacting to season 2, season 2 will be here this summer!!
Aegon got Aegon the Conqueror’s crown and sword. It was sort of Alicent’s way of legitimizing Aegon in the eyes of the people.
43:09 that is indeed not “wormy” but vermi (Vermithor) xDD
Jace technically owned the knife, came at Aemon WITH the knife... but then dropped it, and Luke picked it up and took out Aemon's eye.
It was Luke who took Aemond’s eye 47:46
22:53 *"I swear towards the meme!"*
42:49 "but we know that he (Daemon) always wanted the throne himself".... Where do you guys get this from? From Otto? Otto, whom you should know by now constantly sought to keep Viserys away from Daemon so that Otto could better manipulate Viserys? You have never seen Daemon do anything except try to get his brother's attention/affection. Daemon has never taken steps to usurp his brother's throne. Daemon knew Viserys was a weak king, which is why he always sought to protect him from himself and the people he surrounded himself with (his Small Council). I'm not sure how you make it past the first couple episodes without seeing Otto's pretty obvious strategy of keeping Viserys isolated from Daemon by constantly sowing seeds of doubt regarding Daemon's intentions and the throne.
Except we all know that Aegon's prophecy comes true, and that Viserys was correct, right up until his death, that the Prince Who Was Promised Who Will Defeat the Night and Bring the Dawn will be born from Rhaenyra's bloodline. Also, Luc took Aemond's eye.
People will happily watch horrific violence but get very overwhelmed by specifically child birth, even though it’s more a part of our lives. I think the show just wanted us to see it in its danger and have a good proper look, and empathise with the people going through it. Unnecessary…yet also very necessary.
Women who have gone through miscarriages like myself don't agree and don't need the reminder on TV when watching a show about politics and dragons. It was very insensitive.
@@SuzySteejo That’s fair enough! I’m sorry for what you went through, and I’m sorry this show brought it back for you instead of escapism. It’s an entirely valid response and I don’t want to take away from that.
"Fire and Blood" is the book that inspired House of the Dragon and it is written as if it were a historical book, with some moments having different versions of events, however, some things are well established.
Rhaenyra and Alicent in the book are ambitious and influential women, leaders of the factions, but the series preferred to turn them into pawns.
Absolutely hate that choice by the show writers. They can overcome it if they let Rhaenyra and Alicent be who they are meant to be in Season 2
It's written as if by a maester writing a history who had researched accounts and testimonies by various people (including maesters, septons, and a court jester) but had no first hand knowledge himself. The jester ("Mushroom") tended to spin lurid tales (but might have been one of the few to hear actual conversations, as he was always around the court), and as both maesters (from the citadel in Old Town) and septons (priests of the Faith of the 7, headquartered in Old Town) had close ties to Old Town (run by the Hightowers), their versions could be biased. It's what GRRM refers to as the "unreliable narrator". What we're getting in the series is supposed to be (according to GRRM), what actually happened, and there was some grain of truth in the conflicting accounts.
For example, in the relationship between Rhaenyra and Ser Criston, one story had him seducing her, and she rejected him, and others had her seducing him, with him rebuffing her. Given the way it played out in the show, there was a grain of truth to both sides... she seduced him, "soiling his white cape", and he asked her to flee to Essos with him, which she rejected. That caused the break between them with him turning against her.
@@bill.godwin-austenWhere does Martin say that HOTD is what really happened?
@@bill.godwin-austen In none of the accounts were Rhaenyra or Alicent said to be spineless pawns being manipulated by men
@@bill.godwin-austengrrm has said the show and the book are different canons, that’s especially apparent with all the age changes and stuff
It WAS Luke, not Jace, who took his eye!
@@itsthatgirl98_ that's cool... But for this show, they kept thinking it was Jace.
They really had to do that to us, the most innocent child always gets pegged
Team Grey (not green or black) - but i am one of those who like to think that I pay attention to details (& I have the advantage of having read the books) I just pick my favs (good and bad) and the characters that I despise. This is family fighting each other and there are major flaws on both side. For instance, Rheanyra behaved entitled and nasty to the Baratheon Lord and now she needs their support. It's all Viserys fault to me, he never put Rhenearya and especially his wife and Daemon in check. Neither side cares about the people they are stepping on. But all of his kids matter in the prophecy of a song of ice on fire. This wheel that they created and Dany burns to the ground & Jon is cast out of in the end ... This show is 🙌
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Lol how rhaenyra was nasty & entitled wtf R U talking abt? Both sides aren't the same, it's all the green's fault of not for them the war wouldn't start in the 1st place, it's literally hightowers vs targs, dragonstone vs oldtown, don't ever disrespect the blacks by bringing them down to green's level
@@laza0202 hey,
this show is the Dance of Dragons aka the Targaryen interfamily war.
My comment is just my opinion: I'm not on either side. "It's the choosing that is the problem" .. 🪦 Shireen B.
The only character that I placed blame on was Viserys because he was not just a dad, he was King (a person of authority). He was nice, peaceful, smart But in action, no one respected him because he wouldn't Really do anything. Another example for team
Green then: His wife dressed His Kids in Green as opposed to his other Child (Rhenearya) and grandchildren.. for years this went on, he did nothing. He is a King. All he had to do was demand that all of his kids wear the same color. He could have moved his wife into an actual Hightower away from the kids if she continued to cause problems.
& Rheanrya was being nasty but that doesn't mean I don't think she would be a good Queen if she can now get the throne? And is it worth it?
I think you guys need to keep in mind that a small percentage of people that watch your videos leave comments. Most of us just watch and enjoy.
Don‘t know if anyone had point it out already but it was Luke who took Aemonds eye not Jace
Common sense. Big dragons fly faster in open space than small dragons. While small dragons are faster at close quarters and swifter at tight corners.
The greens has the coolest dragons. Can't wait for Aegon's dragon Sunfyre🐉
Same I’m soooo excited to see Sunfyre! Syrax’s gold already looks cool and amazing so I know Sunfyre will look unreal
It’s not as simple as the princess being heir bc on the kings death bed his succession plan was misinterpreted so alicent fought for what she thought was his dying wish for the kingdom even if it played into her hands as what she wanted for years. She did what she thought her duty was like she had done for her entire life either by her father or husband. She didn’t think she was usurping the princess she thought she was following a command the same alicent that she has always been
She knew what she was doing, that didn't make sense that she wasn't aware her father was planning that usurpation. Nothing that viserys said indicated that he wants aegon to be on the throne for many reasons such as aegon 1st of all is incompetent & rapist he was ignored by viserys his whole life, viserys never changed his mind abt the succession even when he has 3 sons or when alicent was telling him to, she knows how much viserys loves rhaenyra, he was literally half dead yet stood & went to protect & further fix Luke's claim & by extension rhaenyra's claim.
Now ur telling me despite all this on his death bed he said I want aegon on the throne?!! For what? Ur stupid if u believe alicent, she's a slave to her father & patriarchy, she's jealous hypocrite lier, she's 2nd person responsible for this war
After all this time now she has realized she was a tool to her father, yet she keeps being a slave to him, & does as he wants
What's her goal in the show? Like she's a woman yet usurps another women & cuz of this situation for women doesn't get any better in westorous it becomes yet another excuse to not give women power
Alicent has been harassing and abusing Rhaenyra and her children. She also protected Larys who killed Harwin, the father of Rhaenyra's children and she protected and put her rapist of a son who sold his children to fighting pits on the Throne... But it was for duty, somehow she thought she was doing something right lol. Must be that... Of course.
@@LolLilol-uw3ou you call it harassing and abusing I call it holding her accountable for her actions bc she’s not behaving like a future Queen should and she’s being called out for it every time she doesn’t behave like she should and if she wants to stop being called out and judged well behave according to your station or don’t let the judgement of others get to you. Instead she wants to not act like a Queen and expect no one to have a problem with it. You can’t be a spoiled brat and then cry when people call you out for being a spoiled brat. Also once again all you guys can say about alicent is how she responded to the wrong doings of others😂 I’ve yet to hear anyone say what alicent has done wrong her actions specifically. All of my issues with the princess are because of things she’s done not that of her husbands or father or children. I judge her on her screw ups alone
@@jakehart60 Just the beginning makes the whole response useless lol.
@@LolLilol-uw3ou idc I said what I said and stand by every word I said I believe what I believe and I’m turning off notifications for this post so argue with yourself
Its fine if you don't like the birth scene, but to say they just did it for shock value is utter bullshit. Y'all need a little more humility about the fact that you just might not get what they were going for rather than making stupid assumptions.
There was literally no need for it apart from the shock value, to look into it any further is stupid 😂
@@ErgRyarksHorse shit. Did you not notice how birth was a massive theme all season? Yet you want to skip it in the finale because its too gruesome for you? Even if that's your position, fine, but you can't say it was just for shock value when that's just blatantly and obviously not true.
@BrendanBeckett you looking all into it like it's some piece of artistic representation when in reality it's just gruesome for the sake of shock 😂 but go ahead keep inventing backstorys in your mind like all fan fiction
@@ErgRyarks Bruh
Aemond wasn’t happy about it. It was more a case of “oh shit, this might have gone too far.”
Lucs actually the one who took aemonds eye
Can't wait to start season 2 with you guys this summer. I've enjoyed going through this journey for you and cant wait to see what you do next. 29:19 Aegon's crown was the same one worn by Aegon the Conquerer. Not sure why the same crown wasn't always passed down since it was the same family.