American Civil War - River War Pt 1 - Up the creek but have ironclad

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  • @Norbert_Sattler
    @Norbert_Sattler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    "This time we are going to talk about an interesting subject"
    You make it sound like interesting subjects are the exception rather than the rule here. :P

    • @dougfoust117
      @dougfoust117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Bro replace the emoticon with "lol" and this is the exact sentence I came down here to type. Faux paragraph break and all. I'm kinda creeped out.

    • @JimmyMon666
      @JimmyMon666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What I consider interesting other people may not. I can watch a whole video on Naval logistics and enjoy it. Though what I find funny is when I was in the U.S. Navy, I would have been bored to tears about Naval history. I was in my 20's, and those kinds of things were furthest from my mind. Now in my 40's, I can't get enough history content.

    • @na3044
      @na3044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair the earliest Ironclads are a VERY interresting subject.

    • @jesperandersson7000
      @jesperandersson7000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dougfoust117 hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @MasterVerk98
    @MasterVerk98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    "One fleet, slightly used." Was lowkey the best thing in this episode.

    • @AdmRose
      @AdmRose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Also the sign that Congress had ready before the ink dried at Appomattox.

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AdmRose
      Not even close.

    • @ablethreefourbravo
      @ablethreefourbravo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      It's right up there with when Drach called the French navy something akin to, "A rather truculent unit of the British fleet reserve."

    • @johnbailey4734
      @johnbailey4734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Guess what: War is not funny. I notice there are no mentions of casualties or suffering in these programs.

    • @ablethreefourbravo
      @ablethreefourbravo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@johnbailey4734 what? People die in war? Why didn't somebody tell me this?

  • @Heegaherger
    @Heegaherger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +661

    During the battle of Island #10, there was an amusing incident that can be found in the official archives. The battle took place just upstream from New Madrid on the TN/ KY border where there was an S-curve in the river. There was a battery that looked straight up the river and that was getting attention from the Bombardment barges as first threat. At one point the Union forces stopped firing and the battery commander watched a small steam boat approach is battery under a flag of truce and inquire about terms of surrender. The battery Lt. was confused and asked what the union officer was talking about. The union officer, now confused basically said,”Sir, your battery is flying the white flag. Don’t you want to surrender?” The confederate looked to his signal flag he had been using to communicate with the local headquarters and realized to his chagrin that the flag was white. There was then an apologetic conversation about the improper use of a white flag to communicate with the rear and that he had no intentions to surrender. I can imagine the Union officer had a bit of a chuckle at the mistake. He then apologized for his mistaken intent, went back up stream and the bombardment continued. When I read this in the Official archives, I had a good laugh at the absurdity of it and show the weird things that can happen in war.
    This report is in the archives (it was on a right hand page) but I read it back in the early nineties so I may be wrong about some of the details.
    Edit: I am familiar with many of the etiquette of the time period and the above incident a great example of those courtesies in action. For those who would like to look into this, I believe it was a report from the Confederate officer and should be found in the Confederate's records.
    Further Edit: See below for post with sited report per official archives

    • @Corristo89
      @Corristo89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Probably the best definition of a "civil war" xD "Apologies my good sir for our improper use of the flag of truce"... proceeds to shoot guy in the face.

    • @Heegaherger
      @Heegaherger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@Corristo89 I have always found the various stories of the Courtesies of War the fascinating regardless of the time period.

    • @austinlange7210
      @austinlange7210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      “Whoa, whoa. Everyone just hold on. We got a rule dispute.”

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Big oof

    • @davidvonkettering204
      @davidvonkettering204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Reading the Official Records myself, right now! Just finished Series 1 Volume seven, and reading now about that very battle! Can't wait to get to the Confederates' side of things [We weren't beat!"]
      Library of Congress has the entire series available online.
      Listed as "The War of the Rebellion" and comes with maps and everything!

  • @PanzerMan332
    @PanzerMan332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    "Put your faith in God and gunboats."
    Americans are second only to the Spartans in war-time rhetoric.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      You mean like "Praise the lord and pass the ammunition", and "Nuts!"?

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I kind of like Cromwells quote put your faith in God and keep your powder dry.

    • @alexreisner6725
      @alexreisner6725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@michaelsommers2356 and “damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead”

    • @timesthree5757
      @timesthree5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Men the enemy are ahead, they are behind, they are to the left and the right. They can't get away from us now.

    • @sancocho1718
      @sancocho1718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      "Come on, you sons of bitches, do you want to live for ever?!"

  • @staticinmotion8614
    @staticinmotion8614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    That the Union had functional ironclads 1000 miles inland prior to the Battle of Hampton Roads has always been one of my favorite obscure history facts. So excited to see you covering the Brown Water Navy.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Yeah but the Confederates had one in the middle of an African desert so there.

    • @SA-xf1eb
      @SA-xf1eb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wingracer1614 😀

    • @josephdedrick9337
      @josephdedrick9337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@wingracer1614 very useful and a cliver cussler book.

    • @ammoalamo6485
      @ammoalamo6485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@wingracer1614 That was the ironclad that shot down a helicopter. right?

    • @jeffbybee5207
      @jeffbybee5207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wingracer1614 css Texas last ironclad built at Richmond captured and sold 1867 iirc. In Cussler book escapes with treasure and Abe Lincoln

  • @alexanderkaitz1197
    @alexanderkaitz1197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    There is one Civil War ironclad still in existence which can be visited, the USS Cairo was raised from the mud of the Yazoo in the 1960s and is currently housed at the Vicksburg National Monument.

    • @PhoenixT70
      @PhoenixT70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've been to her, and she is in rough shape. If there wasn't a sign that read "USS _Cairo,_ I would think she was a small destroyed power plant.

    • @bernardtaylor7768
      @bernardtaylor7768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There was an Ironclad sold to the Victorian Navy in Australia the remains are still visible. Search HMVS Cerberus there are a few good pics of it.

    • @perotekku
      @perotekku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      USS Carondelet has a really tragic story.
      Extremely busy in the war, sunk and lost for over a hundred years. Clive Cussler tracked it down, and when he went to search the river, found out a river dredger had passed over the wreck only two days before, destroying her.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    "Spoilers: The Union won" - Drach
    *Surprised Pikachu face*

    • @minarchist1776
      @minarchist1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Darn! Why did he have to go and ruin the ending? :-)

    • @Gingerbreadley
      @Gingerbreadley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      “Wait am I in the wrong timeline again”

    • @WalterReimer
      @WalterReimer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Well, recall that there are still some fools who believe otherwise, despite all evidence to the contrary.

    • @AsbestosMuffins
      @AsbestosMuffins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      "The south shall rise again!"
      "Why?"
      "Uh.... um... heritage?"
      "Were your ancestors even here in the 1860s?"
      ".........no."

    • @minarchist1776
      @minarchist1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@AsbestosMuffins And to a certain extent ditto for a lot of people demanding reparations for slavery. To be taken from a bunch of people whose ancestors were in other countries during the Civil War. To say nothing of the descendants of Union soldiers and sailors who would be expected to pony up for that.

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    The Battle of Vicksburgs was brilliant and it is still being studied for the hybrid warfare in terms of amphibious operations.

    • @roll4initiative872
      @roll4initiative872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Just so, the whole campaign was a demonstration of Grant's outstanding Generalship.

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@roll4initiative872 the navy always gets ignored in the western campaigns in favour of Grant which is a shame, especially since Grants first major victory, the battle of Fort Henry was really won by a naval squadron that forced the fort to surrender before Grants army even arrived

    • @observationsfromthebunker9639
      @observationsfromthebunker9639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Despite the armchair historians focusing on the eastern campaigns, the Civil War was really won when Vicksburg fell and the Confederate armies were driven out of Tennessee later in 1863. Grant had learned everything about how to defeat Confederate armies by that time. A less skilled commanding general than Lee would have never lasted into 1865.

    • @roll4initiative872
      @roll4initiative872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@observationsfromthebunker9639 I concur,, Vicksburg was to the Civil War as Midway was to WWII, it was only a matter of how long the opposition would last (not that it felt that way to the participants in either case).

    • @totalwar1793
      @totalwar1793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@roll4initiative872 I think it was up in the air until the Emancipation Proclamation was released, as the only way the CSA would have won is if there was a British/French intervention and they wouldn't intervene with slaver nation

  • @MatthewChenault
    @MatthewChenault 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    There’s a life-sized mock-up of the USS Monitor at the Mariner’s Museum in Newport News, Virginia as a part of their Monitor exhibit. This also includes mock-ups of the Monitor’s turret when it was first discovered and what it was like prior to it sinking.
    I know about this because I was there opening day of the exhibit with my reenacting unit.

    • @stopspammandm
      @stopspammandm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You beat me too it! (Should have looked before I posted :-) What unit were you with? I was a member of Co H 32nd VA

    • @MatthewChenault
      @MatthewChenault 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stopspammandm, 12th Va. Co. B.

    • @MatthewChenault
      @MatthewChenault 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stopspammandm, I was ~12-13 when they opened up the exhibit, so I was with the line infantry. However, I was there for the opening ceremony with my mother and brother. Fun event, to say the least.

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JegerVonOni They raised her turret, engines, and a few other pieces but her hull for the most part still remains where she sank

    • @perotekku
      @perotekku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sirboomsalot4902 Yeah, the hull was left both as a war grace, but also for the fact that it's extremely fragile after all those years at the bottom.

  • @michimatsch5862
    @michimatsch5862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    Maybe when you discuss maps again have like small arrows pointing at the river or location because I had a hard time following on the map.

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I was trying to follow this using Google Maps on a second monitor... and could not.

    • @Executioner9000
      @Executioner9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      As an American that knows where these rivers are, I agree with the above.

    • @murderouskitten2577
      @murderouskitten2577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      i second this notion.
      Drach , stop being stingy on graphics

    • @parrot849
      @parrot849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@murderouskitten2577 Stingy may be a bit harsh; decent graphics are a time consuming process, and in this case, where it involves an interview of a guest expert, it’s difficult to predict where the conversation is going to go into detail and call for helpful visual graphics

    • @murderouskitten2577
      @murderouskitten2577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@parrot849 i was being sarcastic ;)

  • @augustosolari7721
    @augustosolari7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +835

    The guest is talking just like he is fighting a Demon inside trying to possess him.

  • @mattbishop2021
    @mattbishop2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As a 40 year enthusiast of Civil War ironclads I didnt know I needed you to do this until you did it.

  • @augustosolari7721
    @augustosolari7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    World: the civil war Will see the development of the ironclad.
    Confederacy: introduces cottonclads.

    • @MatthewChenault
      @MatthewChenault 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      To slightly terrify you, the first Armored train (and first railway Gun used in combat) was made by the Confederacy. Some of the cars were armored with tightly-wrapped cotton bails strapped to the sides.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @William Mulvaney unless allowed to siphon water... on the other hand, I bet that would cause buoyancy and stability issues for ironclads...

    • @MatthewChenault
      @MatthewChenault 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@seanchick8451, yeah. It was used during the Battle of Savage’s Station as a part of Lee’s overall plan to drive McClellan back. He wanted an armored railway train to drive forward and assault the Union’s main depot at Savage’s Station in order to cut the army off from supply. So, in order to do this, Lee asked for the navy to build him an armored railway car with a front-mounted cannon. They ended up granting this request, built the armored railway gun, and had the honor of manning the gun when it was driven forward down the Richmond and York River railroad line (a line that’s still in service, by the way) to meet the federals at Savage’s Station.
      Unfortunately for Lee, the battle ended in a stalemate, though the federals would abandon the station and move southward towards Glendale.

    • @Delgen1951
      @Delgen1951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You use what you have.

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If god gives you cotton make cottonade

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    the fact that the Union Navy was able to go from a few ships to being able to blockade THE ENTIRE SOUTH in a few short years is mind boggling because you had to have people, ships, ships to supply those ships, people on those ships, and so on and so forth, and they started with next to nothing

    • @NathanDudani
      @NathanDudani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      L o g i s t i c s

    • @naverilllang
      @naverilllang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      In fairness, this was in a time and place where a requisitioned merchant ship equipped with a couple 9 pounders passed for a warship.

    • @harryrcarmichael
      @harryrcarmichael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And that is why the north won.

    • @L0stEngineer
      @L0stEngineer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Apparently, the U.S. went from a 10,000 man army and a few ships to one of the biggest militaries and economies in the world during those years. They had everything needed to be a world dominating empire, at the time, but instead went "nah" for 75 years.

    • @LeCharles07
      @LeCharles07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@L0stEngineer It was more fun to get the Europeans to pay for our world dominance by buying weapons for their pointless wars. /shrug

  • @hermatred572
    @hermatred572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    "But Have Ironclad" -Jefferson Davis when Lee surrendered

    • @MatthewChenault
      @MatthewChenault 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sad reacts only for Jefferson Davis.

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Hunley is technically still "sunk", only in a tank of treated water in a preservation lab.

  • @popuptarget7386
    @popuptarget7386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    At Vicksburg, you can see the remains of the USS Cairo that was sunk and recovered in more recent times. As it was under river silt, there were lots of artifacts recovered.

  • @blogsblogs2348
    @blogsblogs2348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    The one thing I liked about this period.. when I was young.. was that you could make models of the monitors in about 5 minutes..

    • @charlesbaker7703
      @charlesbaker7703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      John Ericsson probably thought the same. USS Monitor went from laying down to launch in less than 100 days.

    • @iansadler4309
      @iansadler4309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The mortar boat model from Paper Shipwright probably took as long - but it is free!

    • @AceMoonshot
      @AceMoonshot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol I made a DIY one. I used one of those brass spray nozzles you get for your garden hose as the cannon.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What I like about this period is that I could ride a bike to several battlefields (born and raised in Richmond). Highly recommend visiting Drewry's Bluff if you're ever in the area. I would not want to have to take a ship up that river with that big ass canon on the hill.

    • @ianwilkinson5069
      @ianwilkinson5069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @William Mulvaney Ive always wanted to do something like that and never knew where to start.

  • @princeoftonga
    @princeoftonga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    When you guys talk about personalities being important during this war it’s even true for senior officers on opposing sides! A lot of officers above colonel knew each other personally.

    • @STScott-qo4pw
      @STScott-qo4pw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      i believe most of them went to the same military academies.

    • @bushranger51
      @bushranger51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@STScott-qo4pw Most likely many went to West Point and some even to VMI as these two were the first Military Academies, it is said, and probably true, that Robert E Lee was commandant of West Point at an early stage of his career, so would have known personally many of his opposing generals and senior Union staff. No wonder the Native Americans called it the Brother War.

    • @floydvaughn9666
      @floydvaughn9666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@STScott-qo4pw The Dahlgren brothers. One was owner of Dunleith at Natchez. The other was Union Navy. Invented the Dahlgren cannon. His son was killed on a cavalry raid on Richmond.

  • @waltspence5508
    @waltspence5508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Did not know that the Union had armored warships other than monitors. Very cool.

    • @WalterReimer
      @WalterReimer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The USS 'Cairo' was raised years ago, partly restored, and is on permanent display at Vicksburg.

    • @nukclear2741
      @nukclear2741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Quite a fair amount as well. The Monitor was one of 3 selected designs, the other 2, one was a Gloire like vessel, and the third had armor so thin, it might as well not been armored.

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you want a good book going into this topic, look up Thunder Along the Mississippi. :D Aaaaall about the river ironclads and Pook's Turtles.

  • @cartmann94
    @cartmann94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    General Winfield Scott to Lincoln:
    My Anaconda Plan don’t, my Anaconda Plan don’t want none.
    Until you give it ironclads and guns, hun.

  • @jlvfr
    @jlvfr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    "Row row row your boat, gentle down the ri.." *_BOOM_*

  • @Odin029
    @Odin029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I never thought a Drach video would ever mention my neck of the woods since I'm so far inland, but here we are. I'll even let that 'Nashville not as important as New Orleans' swipe slide.

  • @mattsgrungy
    @mattsgrungy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    When he said "It was one of the Confederacy's main sources of beef" I thought he meant "beef" like "disagreement"....
    I think I need to go get a coffee.

    • @ablethreefourbravo
      @ablethreefourbravo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It *is* possible he meant both versions...

    • @77Cardinal
      @77Cardinal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Texas has always been like that.

  • @erikdavid2061
    @erikdavid2061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Confederate shipbuilding be like:
    Oi, boss! Look what the Mekboy has come up with!

    • @crissagram
      @crissagram 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Paints ship red...

    • @TrenFrost
      @TrenFrost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      *Salesman slaps roof of ironclad* This’un fits so much dakka in it!

    • @L0stEngineer
      @L0stEngineer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I do say, general WarBozz, why are those boys in blue screaming about "For the Greater Good" on their charge. Should we get the dander up and give em a good Crumpin?

    • @ThroneOfBhaal
      @ThroneOfBhaal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Red uns' go fasta!
      *Dakka Dakka Dakka*

    • @GeneralJackRipper
      @GeneralJackRipper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Accurate.

  • @SgtBeltfed
    @SgtBeltfed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    There's a full size replica of CSS Neuse in Kingston, North Carolina, along with the remains of the original ship.

    • @Veldrain
      @Veldrain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A few of us toured those while we were down touring the USS North Carolina. An excellent replica.

    • @XianMakaw
      @XianMakaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Kinston.

  • @emil8598
    @emil8598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This expert guest dude is such a great storyteller! Could listen to him talk about stuff for hours

    • @samswift102
      @samswift102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you like Sean Chick you should check out “Thersites the Historian”, Chick is a frequent guest there.

  • @ErikHare
    @ErikHare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Great to hear Sean Chick! His book on Petersburg is a must read for Civil War buffs. My great-great grandfather was there with the 11th Pennsylvania Cavalry so I had a special interest. His contribution here on the river campaigns was just fabulous and I am so glad you had him on!

    • @toddmoss1689
      @toddmoss1689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the tip! I understand that my g-g-grandfather was there with the 26th Mississippi.

  • @HarrisonsHistory
    @HarrisonsHistory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I always love your longer form documentaries about these niche topis. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @timengineman2nd714
    @timengineman2nd714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Battle of Memphis, Union Commander: "I'm going to imitate Nelson and defeat the Rebels!"
    Confederate Sniper: Sees him and shoots him!
    Therefor the Union Commander did indeed imitate Nelson!!!

    • @Packless1
      @Packless1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ...admiral Nelon and admiral Yi: "...welcome to the club...!"

  • @Bananaskin101
    @Bananaskin101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Cottonclads, now that's one hell of a trade off, stop/reduce iron shot damage at the expense of inflammable armour 😏

  • @roll4initiative872
    @roll4initiative872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Union: **Walks into New Orleans** This is mine now.

  • @admiraltiberius1989
    @admiraltiberius1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely love this episode, love hearing my home state of Louisiana being talked about in depth.

  • @SirWilliamKidney
    @SirWilliamKidney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I think it's an artifact of the microphone, but Sean's voice seems to drop register and get really deep occasionally and it's a little freaky. I imagine it would give me a bad acid trip, if I was, you know, on acid. Other than that, great video, love Drach's work hope he keeps it up!

    • @nigelsmith7366
      @nigelsmith7366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sean sounds stoned lol.... Must have been 4.20 when making this doco lol

    • @rolfs2165
      @rolfs2165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More likely a connection issue if Drach is recording it all on his end.

    • @rolfs2165
      @rolfs2165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More likely a connection issue if Drach is recording it all on his end.

    • @BlackMasterRoshi
      @BlackMasterRoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      are you kidding? that shit would be hilarious on acid

    • @theswampcleaner3856
      @theswampcleaner3856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you ever tried acid?

  • @Lfcsweden-n5m
    @Lfcsweden-n5m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Few people has a voice fit to documentaries more the drach. Love hearing him explain things 😍

  • @_Sandlapper
    @_Sandlapper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Would love to see a video on the Confederate gun boat CSS Pee Dee. The state of South Carolina has been doing a lot of archeological work in rediscovering her and raising her three cannons out of the Pee Dee River near Florence, SC.

  • @Raptor747
    @Raptor747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The funny thing about river-based warfare in that era is that they could more or less slap shit together and put it into the water, stick a gun on it, and it'd have a use. So all sorts of crazy ideas and improvised measures were used, and could actually be affordably employed by both sides.

  • @randallreed9048
    @randallreed9048 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The CSS Hunley was found intact in the outer extent of Charleston Harbor. The wreck was so complete that the bodies of the final crew were found at their duty stations. The gold piece mentioned at 1:03:44 is on display at the very neat museum/preservation facility where the Hunley and many artifacts are on excellent display. It is worth a trip to see; not to be confused with the so-so sub-scale replica at the entrance to the Charleston Museum on Meeting Street.

  • @GrahamWKidd
    @GrahamWKidd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Things I did not expect to learn watching Drach:
    US Geography!!

  • @reaperking2121
    @reaperking2121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the name of this episode. Had me smiling before we even got to the juicy naval history

  • @nathanbrown6427
    @nathanbrown6427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great, often overlooked, subject.

  • @bfcalixis2478
    @bfcalixis2478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love Sean's streams with Thersites. Excellent choice of guest, Drach.

  • @adamsandahl142
    @adamsandahl142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Both the wrecks of the CSS Neuse (Albemarle Class Ironclad Ram) and the CSS Jackson another casemate Ironclad have been raised and are on display in North Carolina and Georgia respectively. The Monitor’s turret, guns, engine, screw, etc. are raised from the Atlantic off Cape Hatteras and are on Display in Norfolk Virginia. The Cairo as mentioned is also above water in the Vicksburg Military Park. The CSS Neuse in addition to being preserved in a climate controlled museum, has a FULL SCALE wooden replica built just a few blocks from the museum that you can tour on Saturdays for FREE. I have been recently and it was amazing to step onboard a replica of a Civil War Ironclad and if your even near Kinston North Carolina I highly recommend you see both the raised wreck and the replica!

  • @McEwanMaster
    @McEwanMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeeeeeesssss, I've been waiting for something like this!! The ACW naval scene, and the Brown Water theatre in particular is a huge interest of mine, so thank you for doing this and thank you for Sean Chick for helping you discuss it!

  • @The_Viscount
    @The_Viscount 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm so glad you mention the James River. So many people forget anything that isn't the Mississippi because of the Anaconda Plan. But the James is strategically imperative because of Richmond. I've spent summers in Richmond and I've seen the James with my own eyes. There are places in modern Richmond, mere miles from the old city, where it would be easy to land troops. The Confederates can't let the Union forces anywhere near there.
    As our guest says, the real strength of the Confederate river combat was the use of coastal artillery. You've mentioned before, Drach, that for most of history, coastal artillery trumps warships. It's more stable and usually big. This is true in the Civil War too. Cliff side artillery is devastating.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Looking at the armored trains of this time I was struck by the cross over between the armour on river boats and the armour on the trains. So you will see the use of cotton bales to protect some Confederate trains and railroad rails one some Federal trains.

    • @Mishn0
      @Mishn0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cotton bales as armor wasn't new. Look at the battle of New Orleans in 1814.

    • @bluemarlin8138
      @bluemarlin8138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean the Japanese strapped mattresses to the island of one of their carriers in WWII, so...

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mishn0 I was more looking at the connection between the way both ships and trains were similarly armoured. I had not known about the use of cotton bales in New Orleans so thanks for that.

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bluemarlin8138 Thanks. I did know about the Japanese using mattresses on their carriers. I felt sorry for the poor sailors whose mattress came back full of bullet holes and bomb splinters.

    • @billwilson-es5yn
      @billwilson-es5yn ปีที่แล้ว

      Those RR flat cars carrying cannons were the World's first self-propelled artillery.

  • @thomasnoble1816
    @thomasnoble1816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I would be interested in a video on the Monitor class as a whole. Looking at the photographic record with an amateur's eye , the later variations appear to me to be substantial improvements on the prototype. The question of seaworthiness interests me especially given the fate of the USS Monitor. It seems a lucky thing that the Monitor's original trip to Hampton Roads did not end its career early! Presumably all monitors would have to make similar fraught journeys from shipyard to station.

  • @slartybartfarst55
    @slartybartfarst55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was an excellent collaboration. Really enjoyed the views reaching beyond the actual River conflicts.

  • @davidbrennan660
    @davidbrennan660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Iron clad Drach on a Wednesday is a good Wednesday well spent.
    The fun stories are an added bonus.

  • @Johnnycdrums
    @Johnnycdrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful presentation, thank you, Drach.

  • @biscuitninja
    @biscuitninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    This guy's voice all if a sudden drops like 3 octaves... is he letting his demon out?

    • @stevebodine7101
      @stevebodine7101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I thought I was the only one who heard it!

    • @andrewstallings6548
      @andrewstallings6548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indigestion? Not being rude. It was what I thought of when I noticed it.

    • @DudokX
      @DudokX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Sounds like packet loss artefacts

    • @jlvfr
      @jlvfr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wonder if it could be a problem with his mic?

    • @CaptainCoffee37
      @CaptainCoffee37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sounds more like an encoding issue to me. Drach has occasionally had the same issue in some of his longer dry docks.

  • @aw34565
    @aw34565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video. Could we have a video on the Royal Navy's own riverine warfare efforts on the Yangtze River?

  • @davidtuttle7556
    @davidtuttle7556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m s simple man. I see a Drach video, I sip my tea or coffee and press play.

  • @SuperPhester
    @SuperPhester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Tyler and Lexington came up the Tennessee River during the Battle of Shiloh, and fired on the South, Thus relieving the pressure on my great grandfather who was wounded earlier in the day defending for the North. Excellent production, Thank you Drach and Sean!!

  • @michaelk19thcfan10
    @michaelk19thcfan10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I live near Petersburg in Virginia. I have been to the battlefield site. One can still see the remnant of The Crater.

    • @kemarisite
      @kemarisite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Messiness Ridge: "Hold my beer."
      (I'm guessing these 17 mine detonations left an enduring impression on the local geography.)

    • @legoeasycompany
      @legoeasycompany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kemarisite The fact there's still an undetonated mine or two in that region must be horrifying. But given the last mine going off only took the unluckist cow in history away with it should be okay now.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you haven't already, head up to Drewry's Bluff. Cool little river fortification.

  • @tacocruiser4238
    @tacocruiser4238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sean Chick is a big contributor to the TH-cam channel "Thersites The Historian". Sean is a good guy and knows more about the U.S. Civil War than anyone. But he is also fairly knowledgeable about history in general. He also knows alot about the Napoleonic Wars.

  • @Charliecomet82
    @Charliecomet82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    US Army and Navy cooperating-WW2 Japanese military men must have been sick the day that part was covered in class...

  • @gruffen2222
    @gruffen2222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Am I the only person that much prefers videos with drach narrating the entirety. Not to disparage any of the guests but I definitely prefer 100% pure drach crack

    • @markrobinson9956
      @markrobinson9956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are not the only one. As an American, I found the guest's almost giddy delight as he considered ways the rebellion could have succeeded to be thoroughly offputting.

  • @timclaridge7455
    @timclaridge7455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks Drach, for my Wednesday night( in Tasmania) dog walking time entertainment😀 you never fail to come up with the goods, and give me an excuse to keep on walking and listening.

    • @GrahamWKidd
      @GrahamWKidd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Victoria watcing on the sofa.

    • @timclaridge7455
      @timclaridge7455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GrahamWKidd drach = lockdown saviour?

    • @GrahamWKidd
      @GrahamWKidd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timclaridge7455 I started watching 5 minute guides from 001 this lockdown!

    • @timclaridge7455
      @timclaridge7455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GrahamWKidd perfect!

  • @BrionBoyles
    @BrionBoyles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Confederate ironclads were doomed by one common failure: the availability of decent propulsion machinery. Darn near all of their engines were salvaged/repurposed riverboat engines, many of them from older and far smaller vessels not able to propel 10x their designed tonnage. Thus, grossly under-powered, there were few that could move at more than 6 kts. Some could not even keep themselves in position on the river...much less steam upriver... being unable to fight the current.
    While a dearth of iron for armor and facilities for repairs were great hardships, a Confederate ironclad could be defeated by a company of Union infantry... because they simply could not escape. Ergo, most of them were lost at the hands of their own crews to avoid capture.
    For a great read on the subject, I recommend "Engines of Rebellion: Confederate Ironclads and Steam Engineering in the American Civil War" by Saxon Bisbee.

  • @stephenrickstrew7237
    @stephenrickstrew7237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks For another fascinating episode … The Virginia WVA highlands is the Home of some of the most beautiful river Basins The Potomac … the James … the Roanoke … the New “ironically the worlds 2nd oldest and north flowing ‘ and the Holsten … this area is also rich in coal , iron , lead , and potassium nitrate … the local Railroad Bridge over the New wasn’t captured until the last week of the war …The James River Canals Went as far north as what is now the I81 corridor …and the Potomac canal was Washington’s pet project

  • @zachcd390119
    @zachcd390119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Monitor was actually found off the coast of North Carolina past the Outer Banks. It is currently undergoing the long process of restoration (as much as can be done) at the Mariner's Museum in Hampton, VA. The same museum has a replica of the CSS Virginia. This is the museum you showed at 1:05:15

  • @Scarheart76
    @Scarheart76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Is it me, or did the recording of this make the guest Sean Chick, at times, sound a bit like he was possessed?

    • @jlvfr
      @jlvfr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, his voice does fluctuate a bit...

    • @steviebrd1065
      @steviebrd1065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was indigestion at first.

    • @AnimeSunglasses
      @AnimeSunglasses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You mean the SUDDEN BASE VOCALS?

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You mean, that's not normal?
      I thought daemonic posession happens to everyone...
      Well, crap...

    • @cheshire4856
      @cheshire4856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It has happened to Drach a few times too.

  • @josephpicogna6348
    @josephpicogna6348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad I finally got to listen to this outstanding program, as are they all, and I was surprised to see it was released so long ago. I must’ve been napping that day!
    I’m a huge fan of Shelby Foote, actually corresponded with him after I found the signed first edition of all three volumes, in a bag on the sidewalk near to my boyhood home. He very graciously declined my offer to return them to him and suggested that I keep them for posterity.
    I don’t mean to sound rude but in hundreds of hours of reading his works and listening to his interviews, I never really thought that I was listening to a southerner. This program, by contrast, while very informative and enjoyable, makes me believe that I have just heard an unabashed confederate talking about the river actions. Last I recall, it was the union a lot, the Confederates nothing.
    I would also recommend the museum at the Washington Navy Yard for some incredible artifacts from the Civil War.

  • @aidanfarnan4683
    @aidanfarnan4683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What I'm taking away from this is that McClellan was *WAY* more important in riverine combat than I thought.

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Him and Scott saw the importance of squeezing the lifeblood out of the CSA with the Anaconda plan.

  • @blaudrachen
    @blaudrachen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the best episode yet. Very fascinating. So glad this is a series

  • @thesuit4820
    @thesuit4820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Nashville, while not as important as New Orleans, was still important as a town with BOTH kinds of music.

    • @MrWaalkman
      @MrWaalkman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Country *and* Western!

    • @spudskie3907
      @spudskie3907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Time for some Blues Brothers quotes!

    • @SpicyTexan64
      @SpicyTexan64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hate Illinois Nazis

    • @johnbuchman4854
      @johnbuchman4854 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rock & Roll!

    • @benjaminstout941
      @benjaminstout941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank, half pack of cigarettes, it's dark out, and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it."

  • @steveschlackman4503
    @steveschlackman4503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The photographs and drawing are fantastic.

  • @Axel0204
    @Axel0204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    While it is not a particularly well known river in the US, the James River is a fairly large one, in breadth if not in length. I work right on the river near were it empties into the Chesapeake Bay, and the river is just over 5 miles wide from bank to bank at that point.

    • @franzenders344
      @franzenders344 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was a bit disappointed that Fort Monroe was not mentioned. It gave the Union a headstart on advancing up the James River.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've crossed just about every bridge over the James (and the Williamsburg Ferry) and it's pretty wild how different they all are. From tiny little things like that one up by the Powhatan prison to monsters like the James River Bridge or Monitor-Merrimack tunnel.

  • @jameskilcoyne1955
    @jameskilcoyne1955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I conduct tours of the Red River Campaign 1864. There is a lot more to it than general history has attributed to it. It was an overall Confederate strategic victory and since the South ultimately lost the war it is easy to brush it off as just a side show. But, it was close to being a "complete" Southern victory and had that occurred it would have changed history.

  • @tremor3258
    @tremor3258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been to the Cairo at Vicksburg, fascinating museum in the park.

  • @paultiffanyrutherford5898
    @paultiffanyrutherford5898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear sir,you are brilliant.But the fact that you interview American naval history,which really changed naval technology.Deeply interesting, and your feedback is outstanding.Thank you sir for bringing more color into my life!!!!Paul Rutherford,Dallas Texas.

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love all the armored sidewheelers, its absolutely absurd

  • @mikeklaene4359
    @mikeklaene4359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The "Brown Water Navy" has always been of interest. IN the past I have read a book by Gary Joiner and one by Angus Konstam on the subject.
    During 1967, after having been drafted, the US Army sent me to Ft Eustis, VA which is on the James River between Newport News and Williamsburg. There I learned how to operate landing craft and tug boats.

    • @EvanRobertsonHD1
      @EvanRobertsonHD1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I took a Louisiana History class at LSU Shreveport about a decade ago with Gary Joiner, we learned the whole Red River Campaign and read the same book if I recall. He is an exceptionally good history professor.

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It was a Civil War because everyone used their best manners during the fighting. Pinkies extended during bayonet charges!

  • @claycountybrian5645
    @claycountybrian5645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings from Clay County, Missouri !
    Thank you BOTH for this !
    A distant relative of my mother, Peder O. Hill, was Captain of Mess No. 4 on the USS Cairo ( yes, KA-row, Thanks again ) so this had personal interest for me.
    After the USS Cairo was sunk, he was transferred to the tin-clad Forest Rose and POSSIBLY the Rattler.
    He survived the war , but died in 1890, aged 55, as a result of being run-over by horses. I left out a lot.
    THANKS AGAIN ! 570 thumbs UP !

  • @lukerettie
    @lukerettie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An interesting book covering some of the river campaigns is 'Ironclad Captain: Seth Ledyard Phelps and the U.S. Navy 1841-1864' by Jay Slagle. It is many years since I've read it but I very much enjoyed reading it when I used it for my Advanced Higher History dissertation in school many years ago

  • @BobSmith-dk8nw
    @BobSmith-dk8nw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah. One of the impressions I've gotten of Lincoln - was that he tended to interfere in his Generals Running of their Armies. So - while he had some complaints about some of his Generals - some of his Generals had complaints about him too.
    Another odd thing - is that - "The South" did not secede as a whole. Each State in what became the Confederacy seceded for it's own reasons which were not the same from State to State. It's my understanding that when Virginia had voted on secession - it voted NOT to secede. Then - Lincoln demanded that Virginia, among other states raise troops to go suppress South Carolina. While Virginia had decided not to secede itself - sending it's troops to attack another State - was not something it was going to do - and it was at that point - because of Lincoln demanding that it do so - that it voted again - and this time did vote to secede.
    If Lincoln had simply let South Carolina go ... can you imagine an economically or politically viable Confederacy without Virginia? The other thing about this - was that Virginia was not the only state to secede for this reason.
    One last comment about post Civil War use of the Rivers by the Army. The Missouri River, one of the major tributaries of the Mississippi, goes west as far west as Western Montana
    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Missouri_River_basin_map.png
    and has among a plethora of other rivers, the Yellowstone feeding into it. So - River Traffic was fairly important to this area of the West and was used by the Army during the American Indian Wars.
    .

  • @JayVeeEss36
    @JayVeeEss36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In WW2, I'm pretty sure British General Slim requisitioned some ships for his army in Burma. He named one of them after his daughter. The British Admiralty weren't happy with this as only they get to name HM ships. I'm pretty sure I read it in Slim's book "Defeat into Victory." Great book. Great video as always

  • @oldmandan4244
    @oldmandan4244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the collaboration and the topic. I am a big fan of the naval developments of the American Civil War.

  • @JediKnight19852002
    @JediKnight19852002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If and when you are able to come over to the states, I would gladly show you around the Richmond/Petersburg area; Drewry's Bluff, Tredegar Iron Works, City Point, and the remnants of the William Trigg Shipbuilding Company

  • @Ccccccccccsssssssssss
    @Ccccccccccsssssssssss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like your interviews Drach, thank you!

  • @fabianzimmermann5495
    @fabianzimmermann5495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's awesome, seeing Sean on this channel. He often makes videos with the youtube channel Thersites the Historian and did some extensive tier lists about Japanese and allied Admirals in the Pacific, for example.

  • @77Cardinal
    @77Cardinal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done. Thank you!
    "General Banks, the fleet is stranded in the Red River and capture is imminent!"
    "Impossible! I have a map here that clearly shows a blue line on it!"

  • @hughdanaher2758
    @hughdanaher2758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Union General Fremont was the first to order the building of ironclads by the conversion of salvage vessels on the Ohio River.

  • @RhodeIslandWildlife
    @RhodeIslandWildlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Mr Chick and Dr Felton.

  • @Moredread25
    @Moredread25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Interesting collaboration. I've seen Sean on Thersietes the historian's channel.

  • @middleway5271
    @middleway5271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT pictures! Really fun!

  • @Justin-rv7oy
    @Justin-rv7oy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never ever ever expected Sean to be on here, I was like, WTF, love his channel though.

  • @erichneal3062
    @erichneal3062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to understand how these ironclads got to New Orleans/lower Mississippi and Mobile. They were not ocean going vessels. They could not be locally manufactured. They could not come from up river until Vicksburg was taken. Presumably they were built on the Eastern seaboard. Were they towed by ships to get down there?

  • @Maddog3060
    @Maddog3060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is going to be an interesting series.
    The guy you were talking too, though... was his voice dipping low because of connection issues, or is he a lizard person?

    • @keefymckeefface8330
      @keefymckeefface8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      oh man dont mention the lizard overlords in a thing about the civil war, the southern apologists might not spot the joke and see it as confirmation of a black-mexican-jewish-commie-lizard conspiracy.....

  • @redjacc7581
    @redjacc7581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the pictures of ships during this period are fantastic.

  • @McNubbys
    @McNubbys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "I shall commission my own gunboat"-Drachinifel...You heard him, man your patreon stations!(disclaimer Drac in no way condones me doing this...I just want it to happen lol🤣)

    • @brendonbewersdorf986
      @brendonbewersdorf986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I really want my own paddle gunboat lol paddle steamers are really cool

    • @timberwolf1575
      @timberwolf1575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can see a modern Kentucky style gun boat. A fiberglass fishing boat with two paddles and a port and starboard AR-15 duck taped to the gunwhale...

  • @themandolinmaniac
    @themandolinmaniac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at 48:50, did anyone else notice the microwave tower up on the hill to the right? This was long before radio. LOL

  • @Christopher-N
    @Christopher-N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    (16:58) That's not the first time I've heard something on this channel regarding the naval part of the Boer Wars (though which Boer War isn't distinguished). I think it'll be quite the video when it comes up.

    • @brendonbewersdorf986
      @brendonbewersdorf986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There was a naval aspect to those wars? Wow color me impressed I never knew that and I've studied the Boer wars a bit in the past I would definitely love to see a video on that

    • @Christopher-N
      @Christopher-N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brendonbewersdorf986: I didn't know anything about the Boer Wars, let alone the dismounting of naval guns to use inland.

    • @v0n1b0
      @v0n1b0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The best known example of naval guns being brought overland during the Boer War is the Relief of Ladysmith.

  • @petersouthernboy6327
    @petersouthernboy6327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The way in which Grant's Ironclads ran the vaunted Vicksburg defenses on the Mississippi River was quite a stroke of genius. Apparently, the fort guns couldn't deflect down far enough to cover the river bank closest to the city.

  • @Hucklongfin
    @Hucklongfin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    McClellan would’ve been a great chief of staff for a “fighting” general.

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, a blind believer of the popular myth I see.

  • @toddmoss1689
    @toddmoss1689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for inviting Sean to discuss the war on the rivers. Joint warfare during the Civil War is very interesting and I’m looking forward to the 2nd installment.

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Drach gets his civil war info first person via exorcism.

    • @Nick-rs5if
      @Nick-rs5if 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Underrated comment!

  • @mugluvin3300
    @mugluvin3300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got into Drachinifeld recently as I love his coverage of navel history and it being something I wanted to learn more about subscribed. I was very pleasantly surprised to hear Sean Chick on as I am a big fan of listening to him and Thersites talk about military history and the like, history in general really. So I am happy to hear two informed and lively entertaining people hash it out for over an hour while I game away in my living room.