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  • @AntJoseph_
    @AntJoseph_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Insane how this game still looks gorgeous today

    • @MatWilson2612
      @MatWilson2612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is at triple the resolution, but yes it looks great.

  • @BryanSteacy
    @BryanSteacy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This sounds weird, but I find your videos so relaxing to watch. You're just such a good driver its nice to sit back and watch the car be used to its full potential.

  • @fabiobarroso3345
    @fabiobarroso3345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Car: Toyota 7 Race Car '70
    Engine: Panoz Esperante GTR-1 Race Car '98
    Brakes: Audi R8 Race Car '01
    Transmission: Nissan R92CP Race Car '92
    Circuit: Circuit de Le Sarthe

  • @blisshope05
    @blisshope05 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Vtec never dissapoints🥴

  • @Cole_King
    @Cole_King 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Do you ever lose any race or are you just a master at driving? 😂😂😂

    • @xTimelessGaming
      @xTimelessGaming  4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      There's a few videos that i lose the race bruh... lol hehe 😋😂

    • @budaroddy
      @budaroddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He did lose a few times but still a master driving

    • @rodolfovillanuevaperez1678
      @rodolfovillanuevaperez1678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He never loses, because he believes in the heart of the engine!❤️🚘

    • @mirata7748
      @mirata7748 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      xTimelessGaming damn your videos never disappoint :D good luck man

    • @darkobelisk4076
      @darkobelisk4076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He plays this game for 9 hours a day, every day for 16 years.

  • @LazloRTR
    @LazloRTR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The car actually handle pretty good at "stock", I remember being surprised at how good it was. It's too bad on gt4 anything fwd with 400 ish hp is practically undrivable due to massive wheelspin, even with qualifying tyres.
    And I'm not talking about understeer wheelspin, it just turned into a burnout machine

    • @TheNicoxoxD
      @TheNicoxoxD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So practice the throttle and try a different setup, usually every car has they setup for stock spec so if you upgrade the car and still use the same setup you will have bad results.

    • @LazloRTR
      @LazloRTR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      matizu Actually I just test stuff, and yeah apparently it's not that bad. _Except_ 1st gear off the line, you really have to take it real easy
      I guess I was using keyboard that time, because I tried using both controller and keyboard and while controller is somewhat manageable, keyboard is just impossible
      also not a whole lot of ff cars can actually reach 400hp so what I mean would be max upgrade

    • @TheNicoxoxD
      @TheNicoxoxD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LazloRTR yeah i mean im a racing driver and at least we never use the first gear, just for starting the car, so if you are using the 1st gear in a race you are not going to have the best acceleration without spinning the wheels leaving a corner, take in mind you are racing a 400HP FWD car

    • @TheNicoxoxD
      @TheNicoxoxD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LazloRTR take in mind i just race a LADA Samara 8v with 140 HP and even in 2nd gear we have some wheel spin, imagine a car with 400HP

    • @Menolifee
      @Menolifee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      anything with 400 FWD HP is practically impossible to drive without wheelspin in real life too theres a reason they dont make cars like that. its just realism.

  • @splash4567
    @splash4567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    1:34 is it me or the ding sounds kinda creepy?

    • @chanshaunleo2103
      @chanshaunleo2103 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It sound low pitched, it is kinda creepy this way tho

    • @pram0385
      @pram0385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You're horny, man.

    • @quizzys7106
      @quizzys7106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We are horny men

    • @SEX_TRAINER
      @SEX_TRAINER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@quizzys7106 I can't control my horny level.

    • @DGP406
      @DGP406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what's creepy about that you absolute fruit

  • @michelevianello1683
    @michelevianello1683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Too much understeer, if you haven't already: stiffen up springs at the back to neutralize it. You'll go much faster.
    Otherwise jack up the downforce or change tyres to a harder type on the back to create oversteer. For FF drives, the trick is to create a front/back imbalance that will help the back turn earlier to straighten the car. That Civic will fly.
    At the front, jack up your negative camber to a -3.0/3.5. Make your dampers softer on compression at front to reduce lock. Jack up the slip differential or install one if you can: jack it up to 20/25 at the front for the acceleration phase. This will tackle wheel spin at corner exit.
    Then, soften stabilizers a little bit, car looks bumpy and prone to lose composure during hard braking.
    Also, raise height a little bit at the front, this will give your front a little more room to breathe and give you much more traction. Front should be higher than back to promote weight transfer during acceleration and braking.
    Limit power to 490/500 bhp. Change gear ratio according to circuit, to calibrate properly you should aim for last gear at red line on the longest straight.
    (Former worldwide 17th ranker back in the day and amateur real life racer)

    • @michelevianello1683
      @michelevianello1683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Chaves Floraz Hi, care to argue?

    • @DS007sn
      @DS007sn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      seems accurate, but there's one thing, that civic was 4WD, at least it was in the garage

    • @michelevianello1683
      @michelevianello1683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DS007sn good point, I incorrectly assumed that since it's a Civic it was FWD!
      Well if it's 4WD slip differential is a given and stiffening springs at the back is even more helpful, since they have active traction :)

    • @michelevianello1683
      @michelevianello1683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@user-qf6uu8kr4w mate I'm class 1990

    • @dominicancheif117
      @dominicancheif117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You’re right, I made a car similar to this in forza and was having similar issue with the car, but I followed your setup and it helped me get rid of the understeer and the car is much easier to drive. Thanks dude

  • @matheuscostamartins6743
    @matheuscostamartins6743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Car:caterham fireblade
    Engine:ford gt 2005(Max performance)
    Brake:formula
    Chassis stock
    Transmission:formula
    The best channel,best work.thanks✌

  • @rodolfovillanuevaperez1678
    @rodolfovillanuevaperez1678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these races and I love this Gran Turismo you are great brother! ❤️🚘

  • @IgorSant0ss
    @IgorSant0ss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Playstation 2 Épico melhor console já lançado.

  • @Tony-112
    @Tony-112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Other cars: vroom
    Civic: RRRRRRrrrrrr

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its Vtec Power engine and Initial D
      always together

    • @Tony-112
      @Tony-112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ sure is 😁

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tony-112 Vtec power is Takumi Fujiwara Initial D this pilot is awsome

  • @Cole_King
    @Cole_King 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I don't actually remember this civic is it a secret car ?

    • @Cole_King
      @Cole_King 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @3213232 1231223 I never got that far I obviously can't drive 😂

  • @nat99997
    @nat99997 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started playing this game again 2 weeks ago and its unreal that there are such recent videos of this game out. Kudos to you for making this content.

  • @DavidRSAT
    @DavidRSAT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Damnit, it doesn’t have the *EEEEUUUUAAGGGHHHHHH* sound.

    • @katsuro9226
      @katsuro9226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Why can I hear this?

    • @z-trip5457
      @z-trip5457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As dumb as it looks, everyone knows exactly what sound you mean.

    • @sourcey6620
      @sourcey6620 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😏

  • @aleksanderkysiak9540
    @aleksanderkysiak9540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    2:12 Thumbnail

  • @millionairequack9773
    @millionairequack9773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    ceo of gt4

  • @christiangabz3516
    @christiangabz3516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Graphics still never disappoint.

    • @amy-295
      @amy-295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes from an old game its good

  • @budaroddy
    @budaroddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This awesome friend, congrats to oogabooga for the request haha

  • @alejoknight007
    @alejoknight007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i love gran turismo 4

  • @acevsarcadexii2618
    @acevsarcadexii2618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    wow a 4wd civic now thats crazy

    • @Laurent312
      @Laurent312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AceVsArcade XII does a car like it exist? 4wd and 500 + hp?

    • @christiandevos9280
      @christiandevos9280 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is an awd civic in real life making 1300hp. You can find it on TH-cam

    • @slonky821
      @slonky821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Laurent312 you must be new to the internet

    • @TwpsynMawr
      @TwpsynMawr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Laurent312 of course.. Its just crv running gear but bolted to you're vtec lump of choice 😉

    • @yittmashups
      @yittmashups 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Laurent312 Tuned Evos, WRX's, GT-R's. Also, that Honda Gathers Drider Civic Race Car is 186 hp stock.

  • @hitmaniak1737
    @hitmaniak1737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful old good times with Gran Turismo

  • @BuchoVids
    @BuchoVids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice little Honda, but it looked quite drifty on some turns, like quite unstable

  • @minoltaaa
    @minoltaaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, haven't been on this channel for a year or two and you're still making great content! I made a request about a year ago and I wonder if you still do hybrid requests?

  • @andrelima5124
    @andrelima5124 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legendary car, game, soundtrack, graphics, racetracks everything man !

  • @SssagaBenches4U
    @SssagaBenches4U 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God damn, i drive a sedan version of '98 Civic. Same front look, same aftermarket headlights.
    Not nearly the same power though.
    I doubt this is based on real-life Civic unless it was heavily turbo boosted. Dunno, never played games on consoles. Am only here cause of '98 Civic, hehe.

  • @NJDJ1986
    @NJDJ1986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that's how it should be. A race car Civic like this should be racing against these super race cars

  • @LaatiMafia
    @LaatiMafia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have never gotten into these FF race cars. The moment you stop understeering in the 3rd corner, the opponent has already lapped you :P

  • @victorlucena988
    @victorlucena988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Things this game need is more cars on the grid and races of endurance with weather change only. The other things have to be the same. Cars, menu, ost... all the same. And multiplayer of course.

  • @polfr1374
    @polfr1374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When Gran Turismo's games had so many cars than the last one...🤔.

    • @amy-295
      @amy-295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its hidden

  • @v88box21
    @v88box21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HYBRiD Request:
    Car: Peugeot 206 Rally Car '99
    Engine: Suzuki ESCUDO Pikes Peak '98
    Brake: Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II '04
    Chassis: Bentley Speed 8
    Transmission: Audi Le Mans quattro '03
    Track: Circuit de Sarthe (no chicanes)
    also this may sound like the devil car named Assoluto Squaldon from Rage Racer, a racing game made by Namco, the 3rd Ridge Racer game.

  • @purwantiallan5089
    @purwantiallan5089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DAVID vs Goliath Challenge accepted.

  • @moniqueorr1161
    @moniqueorr1161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My father has this game and I play sometimes

    • @budaroddy
      @budaroddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your father is a men of culture aswell

  • @elbeto7750
    @elbeto7750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am fascinated by the games of great tourism. and I enjoy these videos, you are very good.

  • @VictorSchofield
    @VictorSchofield 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of my good ole' elementary school days! ♥

  • @just181
    @just181 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The graphics actually better than the crew 2

  • @ferrarisp1466
    @ferrarisp1466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GT4 is the best! Hands down!

  • @spinda2spinda
    @spinda2spinda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously, some Initial D over ANY of these videos works so well with how good the driving is

  • @gallardos8617
    @gallardos8617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Также играю на эмуляторе)) для меня это лучший гоночный симулятор👍👏

  • @samueldebritoesilva5821
    @samueldebritoesilva5821 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Granturismo ist ein sehr gutes Spiel, sehr guter Geschmack 😁😁

  • @matikaslongadog8223
    @matikaslongadog8223 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4wd civic.. noice build by gathers

  • @davinazare4852
    @davinazare4852 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    here from Brazil I watch all the very top videos and play a lot 👏🤙🤙

  • @jdm757
    @jdm757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hope GT7 uses the tried and true formula from GT3/GT4.
    Would love to see the series return to what made it great

  • @miket570
    @miket570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How were these graphics possible on PS2? Amazing game.

  • @goralAdrian
    @goralAdrian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, can I ask about tips to mod the Gran Turismo 2? I wanna add some livery and stuff like that to game but I don't how to do this magic.

    • @xTimelessGaming
      @xTimelessGaming  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry mate, idk how to mod cars on GT2...

  • @gunma_shadow
    @gunma_shadow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tomoyuki's new ride!

  • @defm1
    @defm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever come up with a way to get analogue throttle input?

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      GT4 had that on the PS2. Do you mean on a modern controller? In that case, remap the accelerate and brake to the triggers - we've gone backwards in terms of face buttons sin the PS2 since they are no longer analogue.

  • @goralAdrian
    @goralAdrian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It worth to build a fast computer to play "Gran Turismo 4"? I wanna play a lot of this game.

    • @Andreaa729
      @Andreaa729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No dude, i make a rig computer for play this at 8x native ahahahh

    • @AkinaJVS
      @AkinaJVS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes

  • @wenskansas4466
    @wenskansas4466 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play racing game not for win 1st but to feeling sensation as the real racer, so I like using cokpit cam..

  • @Syncopia
    @Syncopia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have your own tune settings? Either way it looks like a hectic job controlling this thing. Nice driving.

  • @藤真士龍
    @藤真士龍 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    シビックに煽られるスーパーカーの絵面やば!爆笑😂😂
    それにしてもこのシビック、
    コーナーの立ち上がり綺麗すぎない?
    ホイルスピンも良い感じで
    軽量のFFとは思えないくらいめっちゃ滑らか

  • @Sieraaa
    @Sieraaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you need to try it with nissan MMR cup car. It will look funny bcs the car is cute and smol

  • @stormgsreal
    @stormgsreal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep making gran turismo 4 videos

  • @zayrahernandez4555
    @zayrahernandez4555 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me: I like that car
    The car: 🚗💨

  • @DS007sn
    @DS007sn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty good, btw the settings on the description are the only changed? I also play GT4 but setting up the graphics can be quite tricky, i have a i7 8700k and a gtx 1080ti, and depending on the settings its way too buggy

  • @idkwhatowritehere-p3m
    @idkwhatowritehere-p3m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the V-TEC kicks in

  • @DriftR35
    @DriftR35 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @0:38 So we’re just going to ignore that fact that this car “4WD” lol

  • @mefastman77
    @mefastman77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder why polyphony digital never decided to port these beautiful games onto pc... Afterall, they were all made on a computer.

    • @AkinaJVS
      @AkinaJVS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      because they were made on a contract with sony to be playstation exclusives, just like a ton of other games are exclusive to each console

    • @AkinaJVS
      @AkinaJVS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and the game being made on a computer doesnt mean it would work on one, gran turismo games are known for pushing the playstation to its limits and that can only be done by really tailoring the game to run well on the PS hardware, and that's a feat

  • @itsatrap4986
    @itsatrap4986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Honda

  • @MrErickNilson
    @MrErickNilson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. I choose the car I like ...
    (AMG CLK GTR, BMW McLaren, Peugeot 905, Esperante, Pescarolo Peugeot...)
    2. I choose the track ...
    ( Deep Forest, Autumn Ring...)
    3. I put the difficulty at maximum!
    (Then Group C appears and the race becomes difficult and fun!)
    A friendly arcade race with maximum difficulty is much more fun than many simulator championships!
    Gner Gamer has done this many times in Brazil.
    He taught me to look for races with the highest A Spec score: 200 points.

  • @konstantinosblanos2471
    @konstantinosblanos2471 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Half of the video be like VTEC KICKED IN YOOOO

  • @budaroddy
    @budaroddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sportsmanship with the IA

  • @htg97
    @htg97 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can i play it with my Thrustmaster RS300 GT wheel?

  • @budaroddy
    @budaroddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Today my friend GustinGorriz got 450 ppl in his stream of GT4 missions, i think nothing hits better than this GT
    (Also with the slipstream mission of R34 you get mention a few times on the chat haha)

  • @pedrofigueiredo6590
    @pedrofigueiredo6590 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know how you do it, I still can't get it to look this good, Great video by the way
    any advices?

  • @Oldheadontheblock
    @Oldheadontheblock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol they need to work on the braking sound because it sounds like them cars GTA San Andreas.

  • @wenskansas4466
    @wenskansas4466 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like using cockpit cam when playing this game in psp..

  • @LucifenaQuinn
    @LucifenaQuinn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved that game so much

  • @7319slava
    @7319slava 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Profi*

  • @Justapilot_9700
    @Justapilot_9700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the fact that his traction control was off 👌👌

  • @jimkoutso2008
    @jimkoutso2008 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hybrid
    Mazda 787B (black and hyperspeed codes):
    Engine:succ
    Transmision:stonks
    Chassis:helth
    Brakes:hacc
    Suspension:kek
    You did that with the stock,stuck,stick hybrid video

  • @jeremygamecircle8252
    @jeremygamecircle8252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never seen this car, probably because I havnt play the game in years due to the fact that my ps2 cant play it still, its working but its stuck everytime I finish a race, keep in mind that I was racing with no music either lol.

  • @motoringsportsgt1777
    @motoringsportsgt1777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unreplaceable love.. Gran turismo.. this special thanks for KAZUNORI YAMAUCI

  • @diethersantos6404
    @diethersantos6404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do Ford GT LM Spec II In White On Hong Kong With 20 Laps!!

  • @enzodietrich5
    @enzodietrich5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best game

  • @franjimenez4911
    @franjimenez4911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍

  • @shepherdy1738
    @shepherdy1738 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's fucking crazy how fuckin good this game looks till this day

  • @VanoR1i
    @VanoR1i 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    KANJO!!!

  • @yaj_skyler5975
    @yaj_skyler5975 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gt5 and gt6 made this civic really slow. I was really upset.

  • @louisb6895
    @louisb6895 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many ps2 games do you have ?.

  • @pikminologueraisin2139
    @pikminologueraisin2139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cup car vs gtr
    seems legit

  • @Luisml8
    @Luisml8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi can u do a video setting up a emulator in pc please?

    • @xTimelessGaming
      @xTimelessGaming  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All the settings is in the description mate.. or u can download my PCSX2 in teh description below.

    • @Luisml8
      @Luisml8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xTimelessGaming link to download GT4?

  • @mustafasanane237
    @mustafasanane237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make a game once. No patch no updates its crazy

  • @HatemBenArfaYT
    @HatemBenArfaYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @benisvillageiniran5457
    @benisvillageiniran5457 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite compact race car

  • @MatWilson2612
    @MatWilson2612 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have your changed the saturation or similar? Mine doesn't look this colourful at all lol.

    • @xTimelessGaming
      @xTimelessGaming  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm using PCSX2 Shaders:
      Saturation : 50
      Brightness : 50
      Contrast : 60

  • @senetaireluluenviree
    @senetaireluluenviree 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice

  • @はげ-j3p
    @はげ-j3p 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice civic

  • @nabilaiman1348
    @nabilaiman1348 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's v-tec time

  • @saveriodinardo9418
    @saveriodinardo9418 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow👏👏👏

  • @eRa_Zsh
    @eRa_Zsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I won once, even it was 200 point game

  • @amy-295
    @amy-295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u try gt5 on rpcs3

  • @m4rkss
    @m4rkss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Si que son potente esas luces

  • @weesamexpress6730
    @weesamexpress6730 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can hear a bit of the gearbox whine similar to the M3 GTR's

  • @the_illuminati_thugga3810
    @the_illuminati_thugga3810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:15 "Family car cup" all cars are either Corvettes or Vipers lol

  • @xboxgymkhanaacademy
    @xboxgymkhanaacademy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:04 that sound oh my god that fucking sound

  • @Deffnotshadow6641
    @Deffnotshadow6641 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice vid

  • @highlanderdeminas
    @highlanderdeminas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    pscx2 emulator?

  • @yoanfernanda
    @yoanfernanda 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4WD? How? Why?

  • @Liam__-
    @Liam__- 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    EK❤