Well, even if the President is considered a threat, it wouldn't be wise to assassinate him if you want to seek legitimization from the public. To the public eye, Shield and Hydra are the same, and the agency isn't (entirely) above national/international law. I mean, they could assassinate him, but killing him with a sniper attached to a giant aircraft is not subtle to say the least.
@William Costigan, Or maybe not against Thanos specifically. But against the outriders at Wakanda? If those carriers could easily target more than 700,000+ individuals. They would easily be able to take a majority of the outrider army out. So long as Thanos isn’t there.
juicerlol Cap was right to distrust the government. I mean Secretary Ross should be the last person to call out people on how dangerous they are considering he was the one who led to the creation of the Hulk and Abomination. And how was he punished? By being promoted from General to Secretary. The accords was just an excuse to control the Avengers when they see fit
So, everyone on the Hellicarriers were Hydra, yes? I'm just having fun imagining Hydra approacing and recruting evil janitors, evil cooks, evil custodial staff to do their evil laundry, evil maintainence men, all the neccessary people for running a ship with at least a few hundred people on board.
@@N4Z.100 Because it's surprisingly how easy it is to get people to join a cause they believe is right. In many cases, what they believe in has good intentions at heart. Such as Christianity or what Muslims believe in. Take the German people under WW2 for instance. They chose to follow a man who promised to save them out of the life they ended up with after WW1. And as a result of it, millions of people died. The Germans themselves weren't bad people. They weren't evil. They just did what they believed was right, and they was guided by a madman so convinced in his own decision making, he believed everyone else was in the wrong, and needed to be stopped. Belief can cloud people's ideals and morals. And in Marvel, Hydra was after all a group that derived directly from the Nazis, just developing further on their militaristic and technological ideas, while staying hidden within S.H.I.E.L.D.
Dude, pls tell me when cap said even during his speech that each and every one in shield was hydra, if that was the case they wouldn't even need to make an announcement just kill everyone already
Sitwell said tony Bruce and doctor strange were all targets, but it’s implied that they were planning on killing all the avengers including the ones we hadn’t met at that point yet like ant man and Spider-Man and all the ones we meet after this movie
Si Hyeon Kim I don't know . It could be hell on Earth for all we know . They might even take over Wakanda and make indestructable carriers !!!!! Though on the bright side , if Helicarriers recieve a massive upgrade in the four years from TWS to IW . They can stop Thanos .
More than half of the avengers' team likely would survive. Hulk can't get shot to death, Thor is not locked on. Tony likely has a defensive mechanism to survive since he learned from Iron Man 3. Wakanda might come out and help, overall they can give a good fight
They probably will, because after season 1 finale (spoilers) Carter finds a suit that Steve used in episode 1 of what if, so there's a potential he's in there either as Steve or simply the winter solider. Hopefully season 2 has a what if scenario of this film
for anyone thats thinking Tony was in danger, he actually wasn't at all. after letting those missiles get anywhere close to his home in Iron Man 3 you can bet your ass Tony had systems in place to prevent and notify him of any more unexpected attacks like that. not only for himself but mostly for Pepper's sake. Tony ALWAYS LEARNS from his MISTAKES, as he has done in every single movie he has ever been in. because he always covers his ass as he said in IM3. had this been pre Iron Man 3 though then who knows what wouldve happened
I don't know if I should be creeped out that there was a secret shadow organization capable of killing me at the press of a button, or insulted that I didn't make their list as a "potential threat"
IMO, this is still the best Marvel movie. The high stakes, the emotional moments, the action, the suspense, and the political intrigue made this one of the greatest comic book films of all time!
I dunno if I'd say Hydra agents, I would be willing to bet a larger portion of it were people easily manipulated. I mean, how many people argued against chasing after Cap? How many just took that order for face value?
Useless agents is kinda what I meant by easily manipulated, bc what kinda spy is easily tricked, right? Can totally agree with potential ones too. All in all, it does mean Shield was 90% corrupt and or useless.
You forget this was already after hydra revealed themselves so they already fought some agents there and the building was basically evacuated. They also have like 20 bases and many of them could have been on mission. I’d say less than half of shield was hydra.
If the X-Men and the Fantastic Four had been part of the MCU, characters like Hank MaCoy (Beast), Charles Xavier (Professor X), Max Eisenhardt (Magneto) and Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic) would surely have been on that list of targets, as they are also scientific and political figures who could be a threat to HYDRA in the future.
I presume this was a coordinated effort on each carrier, since it does seem each needed at least someone to deploy the thing and fire on command. So in that case a countdown is effective here to make sure each gunner fires at the same time.
For all we know, the guy who did the countdown actually counted down fast, it's just that Cap just put in the Charlie targeting chip just in time. He and his commanding officer didn't know what Cap was doing in realtime, all they know (probably) was that they had to get the HeliCarriers shooting ASAP. Nevertheless, Hydra could've easily turned the tide, actually. Couple of their troops already went to Agent Hill's computer room; they probably already knew where that room is. All they had to do is send more dudes in, subdue Agent Hill and use the computer to repeat the process of locking onto millions of targets determined by Zola's algorithm. Remember, all the chips Cap et al did was to force the HeliCarriers to obey only Agent Hill's computer commands; Hill had to type in the order for the HeliCarriers to shoot each other (which she did, with a bit of hesitation, knowing Cap's still in the "Charlie" carrier). It didn't automatically force the HeliCarriers to target each other.
Well obviously, Thor wasn’t even on earth, cap and Nat were busy, Hawkeye was probably chilling with his family and the others weren’t established yet until during and after Age of Ultron. The only other person that could’ve been there would be Banner
You have to remember this is possibly billions of dollars worth of military equipment no including stuff like supplies or fuel that and is it possible its one of the 7 wonder's of the world all wasted because some guy hacked it.
They probably couldn't place it anywhere else, anyway. The above decks are prolly for storage of more planes and the munitions for the big guns. Moreover, Cap easily got into the "Alpha" carrier via sheer room-to-room combat. But yeah, you're right. A Quinjet easily broke through the glass walling, how much more if a SAM (hehe) hit it
That scene is legitimately terrifying, because of how DARN close to reality it is. A little more human work involved though, and no instant death machine in the sky, but still...
If you just imagine for a sec, thousands of important peoples would have died in seconds if Cap didn't manage to put the Chip on the Helicarrier, that Important peoples include Tony Stark... and basically everyone in Avengers Base and some places too...
I’m not convinced they would’ve died here, hulk definitely would survive because he’s bulletproof, strange would be protected by the ancient one, Wanda would probably be able to protect herself and her brother, Nat wasn’t targeted, Clint probably wasn’t targeted because he’s only human, vision wasn’t created yet, Thor was in Asgard, Scott was in jail, Peter was just a regular kid, and Rhodes was probably far out of range. So even if they didn’t succeed at stopping the helicarriers I’m 100% sure all the Avengers would’ve survived and eventually team up to take down hydra
@@TonyJaaFan1587 2 years later 😂 but I think they all would have been targets even where they were. I think Hank Pym and his daughter Hope for sure would have been targets, as would Peter Parker even though at this point didn't have his powers. Hydra was targeting potential future threats as well. Strange might have survived but I agree that the Ancient One might have found a way to save him. Wakanda for sure would have been targeted especially T'Chaka and T'Challa since Hydra had likely discovered their level of military power.
It took me 10 years to realize Tony Stark's full name is Anthony Stark.. I know Tony is short for anthony but for some reason I never questioned or ever thought about it for Tony Stark
I find it rather funny that War Machine told Cap "Congratulations, you're a criminal" in Cap3 when he already had the experience of being a criminal in Cap2. Sure, this time Cap has to fight fellow Avengers, but "Fugitive from SHIELD" has got to mean something. SHIELD is basically the CIA except it deals mostly with superpowered people, and while it didn't have War Machine, Iron Man or Vision...it did once had the Insight HeliCarriers. That's got to mean something. Point is, Cap probably didn't see fellow Avengers as much a threat in Civil War...except when taking Bucky into consideration, since it's that guy Iron Man et al were on the hunt for.
I don't know if real-life Earth already had such technology, but man it'd be scary if satellites can directly see us even when we're under some roofing. I mean, sure, the Insight Satellites can see the interior of the SHIELD HQ via the CCTVs placed there...but I bet there's not a CCTV inside Agent Hill's room, and still the Satellites can still see her...from above. Quite creepy, really.
Buddy we already had our FIRST peek back in the first avengers movie at the ending showing us the "A". You telling me you didn't saw that how could you miss that?! You must haven't seen the avengers yet I suppose.
Imagine a combination of Project Insight helicarriers, a good Ultron plus bots, the entire global military (if Wakanda helped them), and SHIELD with all those advanced weapons plus EDITH in the Battle against Thanos... a stomping bloodbath in favour of human beings (this could happen if bad decisions had been avoided).
And to think, when that bastard, Ross, confronted the Avengers about the “damaged” they caused, he used this as an example when Captain America literally saved millions from Hydra agents after they infiltrated the government that he represents.
I wonder what would happen if they really carried out the plan. Doesn't death of all threat to Hydra would spark more threat? Which would leading to killing every single person who isn't Hydra?
I think Zola's algorithm took that into account to. Simply put, those who aren't targeted are those who won't do anything or don't have the power to go against Hydra even if millions of people suddenly were killed.
If you actually watched the movie you would’ve heard Sitwell say the names of a bunch of people that would later be established as hero’s or were already established
The way that one Southern officer says 'Where are the targets? Where are the targets?' in confusion harkens back to Infinity War when Thor is like 'What did you do?! What did you do?!' or Cap going 'Where'd he go? Thor, where'd he go?' after Thanos' snap. The Russos know how to convey action and reaction in characters.
Pym was outside new york i recall he lived waay on the other coast...besides, they reached target saturation so once HYDRA purged the others they would get him
Alberto Vazquez There are a LOT of people listed as targets. We can assume that Pym was one of them and they didn’t mention him because why waste time listing names that the computers know about?
the Stark tower changed to the Avengers tower after Avengers 2012 and tony was in it, didn't notice that when i first watched this movie but damn i just love the continuity in these films
How so? The defenders weren't even a thing yet not until 2015 when Daredevil first showed up then came the rest. This took place in 2014 so I don't see why they will be targets. They were normal citizens at that time and yes they had their powers but they weren't public knowledge yet. HYDRA dosen't know they had powers so why will they be a threat to HYDRA as only normal citizens? You telling me HYDRA knew they had powers?! Heck only 3/5 were already a thing. Iron Fist wasn't even in NYC at that time not until 2016 when first he arrived and the punisher's family were still alive until 2015 when daredevil season 2 occurs and he becomes the punisher after his family was killed. So yeah that would have been practically impossible at that time and would have made zero sense!
I slowed this down to see the names and photos of all the targets. First of all why didn’t we see Bruce Banner or Stephen Strange on the list? They were both mentioned earlier on in the film but I can guess that Benedict Cumberbatch wasn’t associated with Marvel yet so that’s why Doctor Strange’s photo wasn’t used. But why didn’t we see James Rhodes? That’s what really got me. You think since he’s War Machine working for the U.S. military you’d think he’d be in this too. Wishful thinking I guess.
The target list thing if Hydra issues reminds me of Erik Kilmonger saying he'll track down anyone who well so much as think of being loyal to Black Panther. Not bad for those who got world domination on their minds 24/7
I got a point here they never targeted maria or fury or steve I know steve is in there but he is the only reason for failure of hydra or may be it is because he said hail hydra during endgame
0:28 Tony shouldn't be close to dying when you check the helicarrier shooting scene. It's not actually a high-speed projectile, meaning it's easy to detect and avoid. Similar to Iron Man 3, Tony Stark has experience against sudden missile attack and likely the improved MK43 would have saved his ass within seconds. It takes so much bullet to take down a part of the helicarrier, meaning it's going to take time before reaching Tony Stark unless they target him first. It's extremely likely he'd survived in this scenario. Besides, he hacked the helicarrier before so he know all the action it is going to do.
I like how they can predict what each person is gonna do in the future but I guess the purple space god coming to earth with 6 infinity stones(including the tesseract) was too much for Arnim Zola lol
they also teased the release of doctor strange in this film, in the rooftop scene the guy mentions that the algorithm targets potential threats such as bruce banner and stephen strange
@@АлексейГоровой-м8ж no, but they still predicted that he would be a threat somehow, like maybe he would help save an avenger and that avenger would go on to stop them
Hydra could have killed all the avengers easily with this, lol. Except Thor who wasnt on earth, and maybe Hulk who will be transformed when Banner would get "killed", just like when he shooted himself in the mouth.
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I gotta say, I find it rather comforting that President Ellis was targeted here. I don't want a president that Hydra wouldn't want to assassinate.
Well, even if the President is considered a threat, it wouldn't be wise to assassinate him if you want to seek legitimization from the public. To the public eye, Shield and Hydra are the same, and the agency isn't (entirely) above national/international law.
I mean, they could assassinate him, but killing him with a sniper attached to a giant aircraft is not subtle to say the least.
It's been a while since I sit a see every movie, that's the name of the MCU USA president? I mean, at that time?
@@katyespinoza1453 Yes, and we can see him in Iron Man 3
Ellis was a good president. Watch Iron Man 3.
@@wilvinn6747 You forgot the scene he's been in AOS
Those Helicarriers sure would have came in handy during Infinity Wars.
Why? So Thanos could crush them into dust as easily as he did to Titan's moon?
@William Costigan, Or maybe not against Thanos specifically. But against the outriders at Wakanda? If those carriers could easily target more than 700,000+ individuals. They would easily be able to take a majority of the outrider army out. So long as Thanos isn’t there.
@@northhem7898 In the endgame it would really help a lot, since Thanos didn't have the stones (so Thanos wouldn't be able to crash it)
@@johnt3606 He still has Sanctuary II at his disposal,he wouldn't need those stones
He could literally throw his sword at the heilcarrier and destroy it
Since Stephen Strange,who was a target,was saved,will this mean that Captain America indirectly saved Earth from Dormammu and Dark Dimension
Yep. Stephen Strange was destined to defeat Dormammu though, it was kinda set in stone.
Captain indirectly saved New York, Sokovia (Avengers 2 city) and the entire damn universe just by saving Strange and Tony Stark
He also indirectly saved the universe from thanos because tony was a target as well
@@TonyJaaFan1587 yea,since Dr Strange happened before Endgame I didn't choose to include it
@Proxima yes but she cant save Tony and Thanos will won
Wow, Tony was really close to dying.
George Hamilton and betrayed Cap later. How ungrateful
isn't he always though?
If Tony survived a helicopter missile attack right in front of his house in Iron Man 3, I'm pretty sure he could take this
juicerlol Lol a guy from YT thinks he knows shit about serious dillemas like this one
juicerlol Cap was right to distrust the government. I mean Secretary Ross should be the last person to call out people on how dangerous they are considering he was the one who led to the creation of the Hulk and Abomination. And how was he punished? By being promoted from General to Secretary. The accords was just an excuse to control the Avengers when they see fit
So, everyone on the Hellicarriers were Hydra, yes? I'm just having fun imagining Hydra approacing and recruting evil janitors, evil cooks, evil custodial staff to do their evil laundry, evil maintainence men, all the neccessary people for running a ship with at least a few hundred people on board.
its like religion bro ever wonder why muslims are so true to their religion.
@@rogerlow9107 how tf did u manage to bring muslims into this?
@@N4Z.100 Because it's surprisingly how easy it is to get people to join a cause they believe is right.
In many cases, what they believe in has good intentions at heart. Such as Christianity or what Muslims believe in.
Take the German people under WW2 for instance.
They chose to follow a man who promised to save them out of the life they ended up with after WW1.
And as a result of it, millions of people died. The Germans themselves weren't bad people. They weren't evil. They just did what they believed was right, and they was guided by a madman so convinced in his own decision making, he believed everyone else was in the wrong, and needed to be stopped.
Belief can cloud people's ideals and morals. And in Marvel, Hydra was after all a group that derived directly from the Nazis, just developing further on their militaristic and technological ideas, while staying hidden within S.H.I.E.L.D.
Dude, pls tell me when cap said even during his speech that each and every one in shield was hydra, if that was the case they wouldn't even need to make an announcement just kill everyone already
I’m going to make an educated guess and say that not everyone onboard was in on it. Statistically it has to be true.
"Kids, after being unemployed for a few months, your Aunt Robin got a job offer to join Captain America and The Avengers"
Where's that from?
@Sid i see...
@@johnyd.productions how I met your mother
@@kaashvi_Actually that’s a DC reference.
Robin is a male.
-Where are the targets?
-We are the targets!
Why are the targets
@@noobybooby9357
When are the targets.
I do you one better
*Why is targets?*
@@another501stguy I'll do *you* one better
*Who* are the targets?
@@RedCard94 that makes too much sense bro
After 7 years, I finally realize that one of the algorithm’s targets was Tony
Sitwell said tony Bruce and doctor strange were all targets, but it’s implied that they were planning on killing all the avengers including the ones we hadn’t met at that point yet like ant man and Spider-Man and all the ones we meet after this movie
Bruce Banner and Marc Spector too
We can appreciate Cap for saving his life.
It could be amazing that "What If?" animation series deal with the event when they failed to stop the Project Insight from Hydra..
Si Hyeon Kim
I don't know . It could be hell on Earth for all we know . They might even take over Wakanda and make indestructable carriers !!!!! Though on the bright side , if Helicarriers recieve a massive upgrade in the four years from TWS to IW . They can stop Thanos .
More than half of the avengers' team likely would survive. Hulk can't get shot to death, Thor is not locked on. Tony likely has a defensive mechanism to survive since he learned from Iron Man 3. Wakanda might come out and help, overall they can give a good fight
I’m sure they will in season two because right now they have to deal with ultra vision and the fact that he has all the stones
They probably will, because after season 1 finale (spoilers)
Carter finds a suit that Steve used in episode 1 of what if, so there's a potential he's in there either as Steve or simply the winter solider. Hopefully season 2 has a what if scenario of this film
0:27 Can we appreciate the fact that Steve Rogers manages to save Tony Stark’s life from being a target?
no
@@amasuainticachi
Lol, why? 😂
No. Because Tony Stark betrayed the Advengers in the next movie.
you think those missiles will reach TONY STARK lol !!!! He sure would have learnt his lesson from Iron man 3
for anyone thats thinking Tony was in danger, he actually wasn't at all. after letting those missiles get anywhere close to his home in Iron Man 3 you can bet your ass Tony had systems in place to prevent and notify him of any more unexpected attacks like that. not only for himself but mostly for Pepper's sake. Tony ALWAYS LEARNS from his MISTAKES, as he has done in every single movie he has ever been in. because he always covers his ass as he said in IM3. had this been pre Iron Man 3 though then who knows what wouldve happened
Would you be offended if you found out you were not on that list?
I don't know if I should be creeped out that there was a secret shadow organization capable of killing me at the press of a button, or insulted that I didn't make their list as a "potential threat"
Obviously their algorithm is wrong. I'm better as a recruit.
I was obviously on the list, but since I'm in TN, they hadn't quite got to me yet.
Yes.
even my dog is on the list, and i'm not., wth
This conflict is so underrated they were about to kill hundreds of thousands including the avengers and only cap is on the mission wtf
And black widow.
And Falcon.
Underestimated would be the better word
Even kids... imagine teenager kids being shot to death in the middle of a class
Oh wait
And Nick Fury, Maria Hill and Sharon Carter
IMO, this is still the best Marvel movie. The high stakes, the emotional moments, the action, the suspense, and the political intrigue made this one of the greatest comic book films of all time!
IMO TDK and this are on same level
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It's so good it would probably put many action films to shame. It's one of those movies that can bring superhero and action fans together.
Run Tony!
"Fire when ready"
Nah, Tarkin says it best xD
You may fire when ready
Sorry, Tarkin. The target's have...changed.
He is probably creating the Iron Legion or his Age of Ultron suit at this time.
"you may admire when ready"
Star Wars exists in the MCU. So it's possible the guy watched Tarkin blew up Alderaan and went, "Damn, I want to try that some day"
This scene never gets old! I still enjoy this movie despite I seen it multiple times
0:26 at the avengers tower, tony was a target... This makes The winter soldier movie prime to the survival of half the universe.
Tony saved Captain America in 2012...
Top Craft double save?
Would you look at that? Not more than a hundred people inside shield headquarter is a threat to Hydra. That mean at least 90% of them is Hydra agent
I dunno if I'd say Hydra agents, I would be willing to bet a larger portion of it were people easily manipulated. I mean, how many people argued against chasing after Cap? How many just took that order for face value?
Well, how about potential Hydra agent? Or useless Shield agent
Useless agents is kinda what I meant by easily manipulated, bc what kinda spy is easily tricked, right? Can totally agree with potential ones too. All in all, it does mean Shield was 90% corrupt and or useless.
The majority of Shield has to be useless. Otherwise a parasite shouldn't be able to infiltrate the organization for several decades.
You forget this was already after hydra revealed themselves so they already fought some agents there and the building was basically evacuated. They also have like 20 bases and many of them could have been on mission. I’d say less than half of shield was hydra.
0:27 Wow so Avengers Tower was actually shown before Age Of Ultron.
Damien in the first avengers movie as well lol... during the end when all of the letters fell off leave only the a
It was literally in the first Avengers movie..
Watch the 1st Avengers movie again..
@@jeffma7507 It's still called as "stark tower" before, well same tower but different in name.
@@jeffma7507 That was the "A" of "St-A-rk". It wasnt the avengers tower at that point
ITS HIGH NOON!
0:27 look under Tony Stark There are the rouso brothers
@@StevesSon no , he is correct
1:09 the moment you realized you're screwed.
Big Time.
His face read: I didn't sign up for this
Commander Nametager
Nah , the crew on Sanctuary 2 had it worse when Marvel came and the weapons didn't work on her.
0:27 Hey! TONY! How you doing in there? Designing a new suit for "Civil War"?
holy shit i never noticed that
i think this is before Age of Ultron. Tony pretty much creating MK43
@@ZGMFXGN0042 Yes, before Age of Ultron.
2013-2015 Tony designs Mark 43, Mark 44 codename Veronica (Hulkbuster) and Mark 45 all in Age of Ultron 2015.
@@ZGMFXGN0042 nah iron man 3 came out in 2013 this came out one year later so tony might have been making the age of ultron suit
And in an alternate MCU timeline caused by evil timetravelling alien androids, Hydra came just as close to succeeding in 1976 as in 2014.
If the X-Men and the Fantastic Four had been part of the MCU, characters like Hank MaCoy (Beast), Charles Xavier (Professor X), Max Eisenhardt (Magneto) and Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic) would surely have been on that list of targets, as they are also scientific and political figures who could be a threat to HYDRA in the future.
@Diavolo Jaegar The irony ohhh the bitter irony!
I have a feeling Charles Xavier would have easily uncovered Hydra within Shield though, unless he had absolutely no reason to snoop
McCree's ultimate in a nutshell.
0:27 wow i didn't remember that they teased the Avenger's tower in this movie...
well that was basically a thing by the end of Avengers.
if you pause it there, you can see tony stark as one of insight's target
@@xRyann_ We are thankful that Steve manages to save his life without Stark knowing. 😂
If you want to do something, just do it, no fucking count down.
Ok
I presume this was a coordinated effort on each carrier, since it does seem each needed at least someone to deploy the thing and fire on command.
So in that case a countdown is effective here to make sure each gunner fires at the same time.
@@MinecraftLD10 Good, detailed answer 👍
For all we know, the guy who did the countdown actually counted down fast, it's just that Cap just put in the Charlie targeting chip just in time. He and his commanding officer didn't know what Cap was doing in realtime, all they know (probably) was that they had to get the HeliCarriers shooting ASAP.
Nevertheless, Hydra could've easily turned the tide, actually. Couple of their troops already went to Agent Hill's computer room; they probably already knew where that room is. All they had to do is send more dudes in, subdue Agent Hill and use the computer to repeat the process of locking onto millions of targets determined by Zola's algorithm. Remember, all the chips Cap et al did was to force the HeliCarriers to obey only Agent Hill's computer commands; Hill had to type in the order for the HeliCarriers to shoot each other (which she did, with a bit of hesitation, knowing Cap's still in the "Charlie" carrier). It didn't automatically force the HeliCarriers to target each other.
John McClane: “Thanks for the advice!”
0:28 tony was the only avenger in the tower
Well obviously, Thor wasn’t even on earth, cap and Nat were busy, Hawkeye was probably chilling with his family and the others weren’t established yet until during and after Age of Ultron. The only other person that could’ve been there would be Banner
We can appreciate the fact that Rogers saved Stark’s life from being a target.
0:28 You can see Tony Stark.
I think the man below tony is Russo
They really tried to kill the director lol
Good thing that Rogers saved Stark’s life from being a target.
You have to remember this is possibly billions of dollars worth of military equipment no including stuff like supplies or fuel that and is it possible its one of the 7 wonder's of the world all wasted because some guy hacked it.
Hydra is like the star wars version of the empire
Nah cobras more like it
oh my goddd.. Tony Stark almost died and i just realised few minutes ago
Luckily Cap saved his a$$.
“You may fire when ready” 💥
0:28 Tony Chillin somewhere in the Avengers tower, Casually Eating Shawarma or Cheeseburger. While Steve Rogers was literally saving him.
Captain America winter solider its my all time favorite movie and lots of goosebumps
Sue Leung no
@@powerplantzone3944
What you mean, no? 😂 He just mentioned he liked the movie and you said NO. Lol, wut?
Whoever would built a system core like that, completely exposed, should be fired.
They probably couldn't place it anywhere else, anyway. The above decks are prolly for storage of more planes and the munitions for the big guns. Moreover, Cap easily got into the "Alpha" carrier via sheer room-to-room combat. But yeah, you're right. A Quinjet easily broke through the glass walling, how much more if a SAM (hehe) hit it
Actually tony stark was the target on this
We are thankful that Steve Rogers manages to save Tony’s a$$. 😂
Man giving orders is like the MCU grand moff Tarkin
This scene looks like a passage out of a Tom Clancy Novel. Mass Destruction on an unfathomable scale.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw the similarity.
@@josephrusso4828 Hear. Hear.
Everyone seeing Tony Stark as a target... isn't anyone noticing one Steven Strange?
The Fizio
He was already mentioned earlier in the film.
They didn’t show him being targeted because they mentioned him in a previous scene as well as Bruce banner
That scene is legitimately terrifying, because of how DARN close to reality it is. A little more human work involved though, and no instant death machine in the sky, but still...
0:08 Those helicarriers are not that far apart.
If you just imagine for a sec, thousands of important peoples would have died in seconds if Cap didn't manage to put the Chip on the Helicarrier, that Important peoples include Tony Stark... and basically everyone in Avengers Base and some places too...
tony stark just having a good day. while captain america is doing a mission hahaha
Can we appreciate the fact that Captain America saved Tony Stark’s life from being a target?
Every known superhero on Earth owes cap one. Ya hear me?
I’m not convinced they would’ve died here, hulk definitely would survive because he’s bulletproof, strange would be protected by the ancient one, Wanda would probably be able to protect herself and her brother, Nat wasn’t targeted, Clint probably wasn’t targeted because he’s only human, vision wasn’t created yet, Thor was in Asgard, Scott was in jail, Peter was just a regular kid, and Rhodes was probably far out of range. So even if they didn’t succeed at stopping the helicarriers I’m 100% sure all the Avengers would’ve survived and eventually team up to take down hydra
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2 years later 😂 but I think they all would have been targets even where they were. I think Hank Pym and his daughter Hope for sure would have been targets, as would Peter Parker even though at this point didn't have his powers. Hydra was targeting potential future threats as well. Strange might have survived but I agree that the Ancient One might have found a way to save him. Wakanda for sure would have been targeted especially T'Chaka and T'Challa since Hydra had likely discovered their level of military power.
The lesson here is to ignore your urge for dramatic countdowns. When you have a target lock, just press fire.
It may have been necessary in this situation, but I get your point 😆
NOT IRON MAAAAN!
We're the targets
Yup
It took me 10 years to realize Tony Stark's full name is Anthony Stark.. I know Tony is short for anthony but for some reason I never questioned or ever thought about it for Tony Stark
I find it rather funny that War Machine told Cap "Congratulations, you're a criminal" in Cap3 when he already had the experience of being a criminal in Cap2. Sure, this time Cap has to fight fellow Avengers, but "Fugitive from SHIELD" has got to mean something. SHIELD is basically the CIA except it deals mostly with superpowered people, and while it didn't have War Machine, Iron Man or Vision...it did once had the Insight HeliCarriers. That's got to mean something.
Point is, Cap probably didn't see fellow Avengers as much a threat in Civil War...except when taking Bucky into consideration, since it's that guy Iron Man et al were on the hunt for.
I don't know if real-life Earth already had such technology, but man it'd be scary if satellites can directly see us even when we're under some roofing. I mean, sure, the Insight Satellites can see the interior of the SHIELD HQ via the CCTVs placed there...but I bet there's not a CCTV inside Agent Hill's room, and still the Satellites can still see her...from above. Quite creepy, really.
I just realised we got a peek here at the Avengers tower ( with an "A" and not "Stark" written on it ) well before Avengers AOU.
Buddy we already had our FIRST peek back in the first avengers movie at the ending showing us the "A". You telling me you didn't saw that how could you miss that?! You must haven't seen the avengers yet I suppose.
Imagine a combination of Project Insight helicarriers, a good Ultron plus bots, the entire global military (if Wakanda helped them), and SHIELD with all those advanced weapons plus EDITH in the Battle against Thanos... a stomping bloodbath in favour of human beings (this could happen if bad decisions had been avoided).
Now that infinity war is out l can say now that the wintersoldier is still the best mcu film
And to think, when that bastard, Ross, confronted the Avengers about the “damaged” they caused, he used this as an example when Captain America literally saved millions from Hydra agents after they infiltrated the government that he represents.
Ross? You mean the guy that wanted to hunt down Hulk and weaponize him?
@@ricardoortiz4870 the very same. Some idiot in the capital made him the new secretary of defense.
I wonder what would happen if they really carried out the plan. Doesn't death of all threat to Hydra would spark more threat? Which would leading to killing every single person who isn't Hydra?
ultron said it best we create what we fear
I think Zola's algorithm took that into account to. Simply put, those who aren't targeted are those who won't do anything or don't have the power to go against Hydra even if millions of people suddenly were killed.
Just like Thanos used the stones to destroy the stones, cap used the helicarrier's to destroy the helicarrier's
Hydra: we choose our enemies, target them and kill them.
Thanos: How about random?
0:28 am I the only one who Is just realizing now that tony was also a target. I’m so stupid because clearly he was a threat to hydra.
If you actually watched the movie you would’ve heard Sitwell say the names of a bunch of people that would later be established as hero’s or were already established
@@TonyJaaFan1587 bit cheeky, I’ve watched the movie 3 times and I was just making a comment, I didn’t need your reply :)
I don't think anybody on those ships saw that coming. 😂
Man hydra is like the empire from Star Wars
The way that one Southern officer says 'Where are the targets? Where are the targets?' in confusion harkens back to Infinity War when Thor is like 'What did you do?! What did you do?!' or Cap going 'Where'd he go? Thor, where'd he go?' after Thanos' snap.
The Russos know how to convey action and reaction in characters.
wtf they targeted the president
HYDRAS plan was to kill anyone who was even a potential threat to their organization, not just active threats
It's a secretary of defense I believe
@@brentiusiacomus8963 they targeted Matthew Ellis in the Capitol, US President
They also targetted Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, and Stephen Strange.
@@brentiusiacomus8963 and the President
They never mention Dr. Hank Pym as a hydra potential target.
Alberto Vazquez You could've said the same for Matt Murdock, Skye and Jessica Jones.
Pym was outside new york i recall he lived waay on the other coast...besides, they reached target saturation so once HYDRA purged the others they would get him
Alberto Vazquez There are a LOT of people listed as targets. We can assume that Pym was one of them and they didn’t mention him because why waste time listing names that the computers know about?
Alberto Vazquez Well Peggy Carter is a potential target as well and they just left her alone.
Peggy had Alzheimer’s. She was basically already dead.
Dr.Steven Strange was on that list.
I loved the shield helicarriers
Rip
Unfortunately, HYDRA turned them into Death Stars
they knew they screwed up at 1:07
the Stark tower changed to the Avengers tower after Avengers 2012 and tony was in it, didn't notice that when i first watched this movie but damn i just love the continuity in these films
We can appreciate the fact that Rogers saved Stark’s life from being a target.
@@ricardoortiz4870 guess we can say Rogers payed back the favour after Tony saved his life in 2012 during the events of Avengers
@@SmoovyNovaFan I thought Hulk saved Stark’s life.
@@ricardoortiz4870 nope, Stark saved effectively saved everyone when he shot that nuke out the portal lol
In my headcanon, Matt Murdock, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Danny Rand, and Frank Castle are also targets.
How so? The defenders weren't even a thing yet not until 2015 when Daredevil first showed up then came the rest. This took place in 2014 so I don't see why they will be targets. They were normal citizens at that time and yes they had their powers but they weren't public knowledge yet. HYDRA dosen't know they had powers so why will they be a threat to HYDRA as only normal citizens? You telling me HYDRA knew they had powers?!
Heck only 3/5 were already a thing. Iron Fist wasn't even in NYC at that time not until 2016 when first he arrived and the punisher's family were still alive until 2015 when daredevil season 2 occurs and he becomes the punisher after his family was killed. So yeah that would have been practically impossible at that time and would have made zero sense!
@@itx.louiee doesn't zola's mind finds potential targets?
I slowed this down to see the names and photos of all the targets. First of all why didn’t we see Bruce Banner or Stephen Strange on the list? They were both mentioned earlier on in the film but I can guess that Benedict Cumberbatch wasn’t associated with Marvel yet so that’s why Doctor Strange’s photo wasn’t used. But why didn’t we see James Rhodes? That’s what really got me. You think since he’s War Machine working for the U.S. military you’d think he’d be in this too. Wishful thinking I guess.
Dr. Strange was in the list tho
0:28 if you have keen eyes that is...
Theres Tony Stark right there as the target...
The target list thing if Hydra issues reminds me of Erik Kilmonger saying he'll track down anyone who well so much as think of being loyal to Black Panther.
Not bad for those who got world domination on their minds 24/7
ALL HAIL THE NEW ALGORITHMS!!!
What If... Hydra Commits Genocide
0:26 is my middle school lmao
Captain America saved you lmao
Lol
Fire when ready. I’ll just fire now!
I got a point here they never targeted maria or fury or steve
I know steve is in there but he is the only reason for failure of hydra or may be it is because he said hail hydra during endgame
Has anyone ever noticed Tony Stark in the upper right corner at 0:28?I sure didn’t
We can appreciate the fact that Rogers saved Tony’s a$$ from being a target.
thanks for the clip =]]]]]]]]]
Anakin Skywalker I don't like sand
Bro the way how that guy turned at the end at 1:06 is so funny
If only the Algorithm realized that it didnt need to un-alive those individuals, it only needed to shadow-ban them from every aspect of life.
Technically, Thanos found an easier way to solve the problem by doing a finger snapper? Jeez.
0:28 stark
0:28 Tony shouldn't be close to dying when you check the helicarrier shooting scene. It's not actually a high-speed projectile, meaning it's easy to detect and avoid. Similar to Iron Man 3, Tony Stark has experience against sudden missile attack and likely the improved MK43 would have saved his ass within seconds. It takes so much bullet to take down a part of the helicarrier, meaning it's going to take time before reaching Tony Stark unless they target him first. It's extremely likely he'd survived in this scenario. Besides, he hacked the helicarrier before so he know all the action it is going to do.
He also helped design these specific models as proven by fury and the fact that they were flying with repulsor jets instead of rotors
I get your point overall but how are those guns you can see later in the movie shooting not high speed projectiles...
It’s not missiles that’s targeting people, it’s long ranged precision guns. It only fired missiles because it’s target was the helicarriers
I like how they can predict what each person is gonna do in the future but I guess the purple space god coming to earth with 6 infinity stones(including the tesseract) was too much for Arnim Zola lol
Honestly Dr Zola can't do much about it,I bet these helicarriers are mere ants compared to Sanctuary II
They predicted through Maths, not Magic, that's why they didn't saw Thanos coming or even HYDRA's defeaf. Don't confuse things.
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Exactly
What a waste those Helicarrier they're useful in Infinity War & Endgame but Hydra jump in mess anything else following there plan in crazy method
0:35 That’s Grand Moff Tarkin’s Line. You are not Grand Moff Tarkin.
0:27 can't believe tony was hanging out in the avengers compound. booooo
That's Avengers tower
1:07 It was at this moment that they knew.
They're fucked.
they also teased the release of doctor strange in this film, in the rooftop scene the guy mentions that the algorithm targets potential threats such as bruce banner and stephen strange
It is unlikely that the algorithm could predict that a brilliant surgeon in the future will become the Supreme magician of the Earth.
@@АлексейГоровой-м8ж no, but they still predicted that he would be a threat somehow, like maybe he would help save an avenger and that avenger would go on to stop them
Hydra could have killed all the avengers easily with this, lol. Except Thor who wasnt on earth, and maybe Hulk who will be transformed when Banner would get "killed", just like when he shooted himself in the mouth.
They are great weapons for the infinity war wakanda battle actually
Russo: Hail HYD-
Captain America: *switches out target chip* Charlie lock...!
Russo: Where are the targets? WHERE ARE THE TARGETS!?
Simply Big Brother if he has an itchy trigger finger
Biden would love to have something like this.
Maybe
people think this was bad but most of those people probably got snapped
if i was hydra psychologists philosophers historians and religious leaders would be on my hit list.
Why?
Where are the targets????!!!!!!
Cap: FUCKING REVERSE UNO CARD BIIIATCHHH!!!!
Everyone else: oh fuck gg...