Intoxicants: Imam Abu Hanifa vs the rest | Mufti Abu Layth

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  • Mufti Abu Layth talks about Imam Abu Hanifa's fatwa on intoxicants in comparison to the rest of the scholars.

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  • @nitrogen4626
    @nitrogen4626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    "Wine is not haram because of its name, it is haram due to its effects. So anything which has the affect of wine is haram."
    - imam jafar saadiq

    • @samsmith6279
      @samsmith6279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree.

    • @truthseekerBVC
      @truthseekerBVC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't ever quote a definitive Hadith on ahkaam without the reference.

    • @nitrogen4626
      @nitrogen4626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@truthseekerBVC kafi v6 h11966

    • @truthseekerBVC
      @truthseekerBVC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nitrogen4626 Lol Usool Al Kafi reference. Senior reseachers in even Qom have admitted 90% of it is dubious. The chains are appalling.

    • @nitrogen4626
      @nitrogen4626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@truthseekerBVC No the chain is authentic according to allama majlisi ☺

  • @truthseekerBVC
    @truthseekerBVC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Off to have some of the remaining rum cake from Christmas then😂😂😎

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne ปีที่แล้ว

      why are christians such creeps

  • @islamforall437
    @islamforall437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I don't even wanna try anything intoxicating.
    I fear ALLAH.

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Khat?

  • @mainulhusainkhan1333
    @mainulhusainkhan1333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I loved the God-complex part 8:58 "achchha? Allaah never said it haraam? cholo, main hoon naa? ....... I'll declare it haraam..."

  • @kaalufshinni3576
    @kaalufshinni3576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Muslims who act in absolutist and literalist (read Salafi) terms about what is permissible often go to extremes in practicing what is permissible( or what is haram). As you say what is allowed or permissible doesn't mean its good or should be implemented to the letter .Permissible doesn't mean you should do it, it just marks the boundary if what is allowed.
    An example of permissibility being stretched to the edge is cousin marriages, very common in Arab and Indo Pak cultures. Just because it is permissible doesn't mean that it should become the norm. It's medical dangers are obvious and it should be a practice that is rare and not the norm. It's the same message in your example of Maliki saying all animals except the pig are haram. It doesn't mean you should start eating dogs.
    Arabs in the Peninsula are famous for eating lizards. It is not haram, but this doesn't mean all Muslims should eat lizards ( except Salafis, they will eat whatever the Arabs eat).
    In a famous hadith, some Arabs prepared lizard meat for the prophet. When he was about to eat it, someone mentioned to him that it was lizard meat. He withdrew his hand in horror, and declined to eat it. He waas asked if it was haram, and he said it wasn't , but that he wouldn't eat it because it was not part of his culture and traditions.
    Even when things are within the permissible, you have to understand how to deal with this based on reasoning, science and even your own cultural practices.
    Stretching permissibility in this way( for example eating lizards, marrying cousins) is like people being shown the border of their country and everyone decides to move to the border and live there, just because it is permissible to live there.

  • @jubayerrahman35
    @jubayerrahman35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have become amazed by your answer.
    May allah give you long life.

  • @muhammado708
    @muhammado708 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That fact we have both an innate ability and desire to search for the truth means that God designed this in us. Which means that the uncertainty that comes from self reliance is part of the journey we are supposed to go on. God would not have given us the ability to reason and then somehow have forgotten that we would use that reasoning to understand him/her and his/her motivations :)

    • @Ryan-lf6ds
      @Ryan-lf6ds ปีที่แล้ว

      her? one helluva ability, son.

    • @saifchowdhury9405
      @saifchowdhury9405 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      helluva ability eh that He is a He?@@Ryan-lf6ds

  • @sparephone8228
    @sparephone8228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm not convinced that khamr 'was just wine'. There were many variations of alcoholic drinks 1450 years ago. Mankind has had a long history of fermenting alcoholic drinks of various types, including wine and beer. I'm sure the use the term al-khamr is meant in the general sense. According to Umar Ibn Al-Khatab, khamr is that what fogs the brain. Hence any substance, solid, liquid or gas which makes a person intoxicated is a khamr. By the way those who restrict the meaning of khamr to 'wine' only do this to uphold their ideas of qiyas, deduction by 'analogy', something completely rejected by Ibn Hazm and the Zaheeri legal school of thought in Sunni Islam.
    Mufti has another video about beloved Sheikh Asrar and hallucinogens. I'm afraid I do not agree that somehow they are not haram. We have a general command in the Prophet's sunna making it clear that it is forbidden to endanger our lives. Losing one's self controll by taking hallucinogens is not what Islam asks of Muslims. All these drugs have serious side effects. Islam asks Muslims to be fully in control of their faculties at all times and especially when doing ibadah.

    • @sparephone8228
      @sparephone8228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@c5quared626 Hi
      Not sure your what your point is. Islam allows self defence like all idiologies. The general principle I was referring to is how Muslims should behave like in the social sense. Strongly recommend reading 'State and Government in Islam' by Muhammad Asad.

    • @sparephone8228
      @sparephone8228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@c5quared626 Because these activities are socially and morally destructive.

    • @sparephone8228
      @sparephone8228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@c5quared626 Muslims can't drink alcohol period. The Qur'aan also prohibits any Muslim coming near prayer when intoxicated.

    • @escapethetrap8196
      @escapethetrap8196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Prayer not accepted for fourty days once you take khamr . Khamr is forbidden end of

    • @sparephone8228
      @sparephone8228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@c5quared626 I'm not 'Hanafi'. If he allowed 'honey wine', you ned to ask him or the scholars that follow him. I've already expalined 'al-khamar' is a general statement, especially as its using the definate article. Anything that fogs the brain is an intoxicant. It does not have to be delibarate, it could be even be accidental, therefore any acts of ibadah when intoxicated are not accepted. The fiqh question seems to be 'what percentage of alcohol will cause no intoxication ?' The answer is clearly complicated. We know some Muslims drink 'Alcohol free ' lager. The quantity of alcohol is too small to have any effect. However the best advice is just stay away from them.

  • @sifatraihan3455
    @sifatraihan3455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I wonder if Ibn Sina followed the early Hanafi ruling on alcohol. He praises wine (in small quantities) for its ability to aid to philosophical speculation in his autobiography. Either that, or he just didn’t care what the fuqaha had to say.

    • @siartje
      @siartje 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Source?

    • @lilsomething8905
      @lilsomething8905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wine (made from grapes and/or dates) is prohibited in Hanafi Fiqh.

    • @TingTong2568
      @TingTong2568 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Andalusian_ this proves the theory of northern origins of the Quran.

  • @icysaracen3054
    @icysaracen3054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I read somewhere that around 800 or 900 AD, the King of the Bulgars decided to ditch paganism and choose monotheism to “get on with the times”. He chose Christianity over Islam because he did not want to give up the drink.

    • @icysaracen3054
      @icysaracen3054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abusafoura4807 Kiev Rus you mean?

    • @lavish_1717
      @lavish_1717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Western people seem to have a tough time parting from alcohol

    • @huzafah_
      @huzafah_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lavish_1717 lmao a lot from the abbasids are too

    • @mr.x653
      @mr.x653 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Volga Bulgars converted to Islam. It was the King of the Rus who converted to Christianity instead of Islam because of alcohol

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne ปีที่แล้ว

      why are christians in muslim spaces. leave us alone

  • @seletarroots3258
    @seletarroots3258 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The entire topic of haram and halal has transformed Muslim peoples into 5 year olds in their level reasoning. Really. Very few dual concepts have had such a damaging intellectual and philosophical impact on large groups of people for so long. And so persistent as well!

  • @silentlofderis7225
    @silentlofderis7225 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How much is small and doesn't become intoxicant/Haram?
    In the past I got drunk just from 320mL of beer with 4.8% alcohol, so the tolerance is different for people
    Prevention is best, and Allah knows best

  • @kashifjaved1446
    @kashifjaved1446 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Khamar is not just wine but anything the clouds or covers the head so clouds judgement

  • @Forevertheprophecy
    @Forevertheprophecy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First comment. Shout out the og mufti.

  • @ShakerSultani
    @ShakerSultani 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love how he includes Pabst Blue Ribbon on the thumbnail

  • @sicherheitstechnik7282
    @sicherheitstechnik7282 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But what about the hadith in Sahih Muslim were the Prophet said: Every intoxicant is khamr and every intoxicant is haram?

    • @MrGoldUTC
      @MrGoldUTC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I address this hadith in my video on Hanafi fiqh and Medicinal Chemistry explaining Abu Hanifa's position. If the broad definition of khamr is used, this hadith quickly falls apart logically and suddenly water and caffeine become haram (water intoxication and stimulant psychosis from caffeine are both possible in large amounts and I'm sure you're aware of the hadith that says if something intoxicates in a large amount a small amount is forbidden)

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You could include coffee and Tea both which I love as well as alcohol. They all have their place in our diet

  • @saifchowdhury9405
    @saifchowdhury9405 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As Allah told in the book, How do term a thing Haram when I have not. ? Quran does not make the intoxicant Haram, wine, or anything other drinks, it is discouraged. Please don't interpret and expound, just convey what is revealed.

  • @hamedkadkhodaie7715
    @hamedkadkhodaie7715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It went from imam abu hanifah from the rest, to imam malik from the rest. 🙂

  • @John-qo6fs
    @John-qo6fs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Naughty Naughty Naughty

  • @SROUMALD
    @SROUMALD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As far as I know , many Shahabas used to fermented meals or fermented fruit juices , actually Imam abu hanifa loves it . I love Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Malik , I distance myself away from Imam Shafei and Imam Ahmad. I think most of the fitna comes from them and they change many ruling according to Banu Umayyah.

    • @averroesthecommentator2989
      @averroesthecommentator2989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      proof that Imam Abu Hanifa loved it? Just out of curiosity.

    • @SROUMALD
      @SROUMALD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@averroesthecommentator2989 you don't need to believe in it .

    • @averroesthecommentator2989
      @averroesthecommentator2989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SROUMALD wtf is that supposed to mean? 😂

    • @SROUMALD
      @SROUMALD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@averroesthecommentator2989 what the it means

    • @lilsomething8905
      @lilsomething8905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Abu Hanifa didn't love it, even though he believes it's okay.

  • @riazuddin1761
    @riazuddin1761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative as usual

  • @uncledemon5821
    @uncledemon5821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mufti what is worse paying interest on your mortgage or buying the house with ill gotten gains, just to throw a spanner ..... ps in your opinion obviously

    • @alhassangangu4357
      @alhassangangu4357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of them is allowed. You can rent to stay away from internet

  • @consolefragging9392
    @consolefragging9392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I found my scholar.

  • @leandrojulian7155
    @leandrojulian7155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about frogs according to this reasoning?

  • @azizovich85
    @azizovich85 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything is Halal unless its clearly mentioned as Haram in Quran and hadith .

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not true

  • @Hybrid_Netowrks
    @Hybrid_Netowrks ปีที่แล้ว

    But still that verse is using a very clear word فاجتنبو regarding خمر so how it is haram?

  • @saleemdurrani1
    @saleemdurrani1 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to you, if dogs,lions, tigers, gorillas, hyenas, monkeys,cats, snakes, are not haraam, what stops you from not eating them? You should eat them and also encourage ppl to eat the "halaal" things.

    • @MomoAfterDark
      @MomoAfterDark 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve eaten alligator. It’s delicious.

    • @Alejandro-te2nt
      @Alejandro-te2nt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lots of muslims do things that are not haram but not moral, usually to do with women.

  • @icysaracen3054
    @icysaracen3054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Didn't some of the post rashidun Caliphs secretly brew the stuff?

    • @ZarasthuraGyattt
      @ZarasthuraGyattt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Post Rashidun Caliphates(Rashidun-Rightly Guided), were tyrants not rightly guided. Most Fuqaha' against them, even the family of Prophets leads a lots of rebellion

    • @lilsomething8905
      @lilsomething8905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZarasthuraGyattt Didn't Umar (ra) dilute strong nabeedh with water and drink it?

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZarasthuraGyattt same thing with the rashidun khalifas

  • @alhassani626
    @alhassani626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The prophet said that never make Nabeedh out of raisins and dates together. Either make it out of grape or dates.

  • @bosbanon3452
    @bosbanon3452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think he said the other intoxocant aren't same with khamar but they still haram and khaamar is the wrost , the hudud is only applied to khammar the other will only be punished with tazir or punsihment that lesser than hudud

  • @fahid3342
    @fahid3342 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is alcohol besides wine haram?

    • @MrGoldUTC
      @MrGoldUTC ปีที่แล้ว

      Only if taken at a level that causes intoxication. I'm a pharmacist and a Muslim as well so I made a video explaining the Hanafi fiqh perspective on my channel from a medicinal chemistry and pharmacology point of view while examining Abu Hanifa's evidence from the Quran, Sunnah and accounts of the Sahaba

    • @neutral235
      @neutral235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes if they intoxicat you then every drug is Haram unless if used for curing a diseases

  • @JoyBoy--SunGodNika
    @JoyBoy--SunGodNika 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mufti your doiing it!

  • @themasterclass8340
    @themasterclass8340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could have explained the doubts on Homoeopathic medicines. Many scholars say it is haram. Pls explain m

    • @adeebniyazi
      @adeebniyazi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If it's a medication, i believe it's definitely not haram. These maulanas don't know half the things they utter out of their mouth. Take your meds properly.

    • @themasterclass8340
      @themasterclass8340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adeebniyazi bro, you have no idea what is Mufti.. He is Done of Knowledge of this century. Chiragh lekar bhi aisa mufti nahi milega....

    • @adeebniyazi
      @adeebniyazi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themasterclass8340 bhai I'm not saying anything against mufti abu layth. I meant to say that in general the opinions of maulanas are everything is haram.

    • @lilsomething8905
      @lilsomething8905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Homeopathic medicine is pseudoscience

    • @nawabKhan-tv7vh
      @nawabKhan-tv7vh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themasterclass8340 homoepathy par unka kya khayal hai ji 😭

  • @IrfanKhan-resistance
    @IrfanKhan-resistance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Salam! From Pakistan. Mufti please! Make video on the reason behind muslim conquest? Why conquest instead of spreading message of Islam and how it isn't aggression? How is conquest, invasion halal and justified which started in rashiddun calihpate to rest.

    • @rayyanamir8560
      @rayyanamir8560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      After conquest, Muslims thought it would be easier to spread Islam as it would have greater influence of Islam on the masses. I'm not justifying it. But that's what they thought.

    • @IrfanKhan-resistance
      @IrfanKhan-resistance 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rayyanamir8560 No, Bro. It was justified and islamically legalized for personal lust for wealth, gold, properties and women. Daawah is not conquest. Islam came to Malaysia, Indonesia through traders who inspired people by their character n moral values. Daawah is not about military conquest and convert people through terror and hostility. This is wrong morally n ethically. If you can't convince and win the hearts of people instead of their lands then its not Islam. This is huge decieve and lie to Muslim world. We've always been so proud for ruling 3 Continents. Aggression can't be justified. British did the same. Last expedition led by Hazrat Osama R.A that took place in last days of prophet's life was against arab rebellious tribes on the border areas who were plundering, looting and creating chaos and were backed by Persians or Romans but after Prophet death all other expeditions are questionable/ambiguous.

    • @IrfanKhan-resistance
      @IrfanKhan-resistance 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Heisenberg Not just Usman. After prophet s.a.w when Khilafat came into existence hazrat abu bakar started expedition and after that it never stopped. One more thing was that the dispute between Ali and Mavia was also due to hazrat Usman who designated more of bannu Ummaya Governors on many provinces and this is called nepotism and favoritism which eventually destroyed merit of khilafat and Democratic norms and these all feudal goons of bannu umayya revolted against hazrat Ali at once in his tenure. Mavia was the first who turned Khilafat into monarchy, absolutism, dictatorship.

    • @ikbalcoeg9273
      @ikbalcoeg9273 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't compare the Sultan or king to religion. Sultan and king have ego to conquer other country

    • @MomoAfterDark
      @MomoAfterDark 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re talking politics and earthly matters now.
      You don’t know how God judged them. They were mortal men just because they use Gods name means nothing

  • @muhammadsalah6275
    @muhammadsalah6275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In spain, Is normal too sit down in the park and smoke hachis and later run and pray and look like a chinese when Is praying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ohh ohh ohh Abu hanifa Abu Hanifa

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nothing wrong with that fanatic

  • @FardeenKhan-hg3hp
    @FardeenKhan-hg3hp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Frist you change your look. Your getup rapper alike.

  • @jameelan123
    @jameelan123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work Mufti saheb.. You are doing it right...

  • @Soomaaliya1989
    @Soomaaliya1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Depends on how you let Mohammed and his desert companions define the define what the word "intoxication" means. It is a matter of degree!

    • @jj-yi1ne
      @jj-yi1ne 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you cant follow muhammad. you can only follow the imams

    • @MomoAfterDark
      @MomoAfterDark 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jj-yi1neI only follow God. The imams are humans not a God to be followed

  • @mohammed._.fawwaz
    @mohammed._.fawwaz ปีที่แล้ว

    You noty noty😭😭

  • @ramadan4660
    @ramadan4660 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Accusing someone of playing God is worse form of arrogation of godly attributes than declaring something hram due to common characteristics.

  • @user-user-user-user.
    @user-user-user-user. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👍🏻🇺🇸

  • @shirazlodhi836
    @shirazlodhi836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice video

  • @ahmedmohammad7300
    @ahmedmohammad7300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God-complex 😂😂😭😭

  • @sajjadhussain7257
    @sajjadhussain7257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙄🤪👍🏼🐕