@@samphonnetgamgee5625 I know Heiser's work very well and can honestly say that he is certainly not a "New Age false teacher". Calling him an "apocryphal researcher" might not be too wrong since he does focus a lot on the writings of second temple Judaism and how these writings influenced the authors of the New Testament. But that doesn't make him a heretic. Most biblical scholars (if not all) acknowledge the fact that the New Testament authors also made use of the non-canonical Jewish writings of the time.
OK that's nice, but everyone just sees the tower. Read Genesis again, they were quite clear that they wanted to build the city with a tower to make a name for themselves *so they would not be scattered*. This is because God had *commanded* them to spread out and fill the earth, copying the command to Adam. They didn't want to scatter, so God scrambled their language, and they scattered.
The ziggurat was not built for that reason. They were built because of the fear of the return of Noah’s flood. The reason they wanted to build the Tower of Babel was so they wouldn’t scatter
I don’t necessarily disagree with you. I would be more dogmatic when it comes to “scattered” As being the main reason because that is in scripture. It is non-inspired writers like Josephus that points out the fear of potential floodwaters
None of your guesses are supported by the 9 verses given. The known purpose for building a ziggurat is to get the god to come down. You read into it about their fear of another flood, which God said he wouldn't do. If you are a scholar of ANE perhaps you should know that.
This is a dangerous statement and territory to enter into: Quoting 2nd line of text in video description: *" You’ve heard many Bible stories hundreds of times, but how many behind-the-scenes details are you missing? "* By that you can only mean going outside of scripture. There is nothing wrong with this as long as it is in alignment with scripture WITHOUT PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. There can be no contradictions elsewhere as a result. Otherwise your teaching scripture not from scripture but from outside and your seeking outside understanding that your itching ears want to hear rather then what the scriptures provided to use for the plain meaning and understanding. Scripture interprets scripture. This is extremely dangerous territory starting with an extremely dangerous statement to begin with. I am require to warn.
I disagree with this. The Tower of Babel can only be understood in light of the one who built it. When we examine the text we discover four things about the man who built The Tower. First, we know that Babel and the tower were built by a rebellious man. The definition of Nimrod is “to rebel.” This is not a man who seeks Yahweh’s presence. He is a rebel. Second, we know that Nimrod became “mighty over earth.” He ruled humanity and thus did not want people leaving his kingdom. He wanted them under his thumb. Third, we know that Nimrod was hostile toward Yahweh. He was a mighty hunter “before,” or “in the face of” or “in opposition to” or “hostile toward” Yahweh. He most certainly did not build this ziggurat in hopes of getting closer to Yahweh. Fourth, we know that they sought to make for “themselves a name.” They didn’t want Yahweh exalted. They wanted themselves exalted. That’s my 2 cents anyway. Take it for what it’s worth. This and a $5 will get you a cup of coffee.
It's from Zondervan...so of course it's a commercial for their Bible. Walton's info is confirmed by other scholars; it adds more ideas from the ANE to the text. Isn't it interesting the ziggurats are found across the World?
You need a lesson in atmospheric sciences. There is something called plasma tubes that surround the planet. They are at an elevation of 50 miles currently. Oxygen is magnetic hence aquifer systems producing magnetic fields. Every so often the planet floods by a collapsing of the atmosphere. This brings the ionosphere closer to the planet surface.Thousands of years ago that would’ve brought the plasma tubes within tower distance. This is backed by atmospheric sciences and electromagnetism
Nah. Think i'll pass. Why? Here's why: _The author is unknown although it is assumed by academics that the author was an Orthodox Jew based off the fact that the work shows influence from the Talmud, Rashi's commentary, Pirke de Rabbi Eliezer; the Yalkut; the Chronicle of Moses; Yosippon; Midrash Abkir and also the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible)._ [Wikisource] Hopefully you (anyone) don't need an explanation of the above paragraph. The answer(s) are contained w/in it. You should not object unless you're an Orthodox Jew who relies ONLY on the Talmud for interpretation(s).
Interesting theory. Problem is it conflicts with what God says in Gen 11. They were putting themselves above God. Gen 9:1 God commanded them to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. They were saying "No! Let us make a name for ourselves (not for God or His glory), otherwise we will be scattered abroad." In essence we want the glory, don't want to give it to God, and don't want to obey Him. Apparently, Dr. Walton is another liberal theologian who doesn't care what God's word says. I hope I'm wrong.
I believe they built the tower of babylon and ziggurats so high because they consciously remember the great flood during Noahs time and attempted to escape that fate by building as high as they could.
I am a Christian and not trying to be difficult here but if that were true, why would they start building in a low laying location rather than a mountain or at least a much higher plateau ? Some suspect they tried to reach God's Dome overhead.
I find it quite interesting that the Tower of Babel was apparently built "next to" or close by the existing Jewish Temple at that time. To me that shows how Nimrod and his disobedient followers were trying to set up a counterfit way of approaching God rather than in the manor that he had commanded them to. That way was through his Temple and the sacrificial offerings performed there by people with the recognized Priesthood authority to do so. As with Cains offering, Satan always trys to get people to disobey God by convincing them to do things their way and for their benefit rather than Gods.
Awesome! The only issue is, he ended it by claiming his study bible was exclusive from the others, and in saying that, he was trying to make a name for himself for his own gain. 🤔
God blessings love ❤ Israel 🇮🇱 forever. Never. Forget. The. Real meaning. We were. All divided. Into different. Languages. To. Learn. To respect. One another. God. Excists. Amen.
It seems they also tried to make a name for themselves by bringing the ark of the covenant onto the Philistine battlefield in 1st Samuel. They tried to use or manipulate His presence for their own purpose. That didn't go well either.
Read Obadiah 1. He ll tell you. Obadiah 1:4 (KJV) Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, (the eagle has landed) and though thou set thy nest among the stars, (nasa) thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD. Isaiah 14:13-15 (KJV) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
And yet..and yet, BOOK of YASHER (I hope you read it) says different. It was act of defiance as bricks were also covered with tar, so solid against any second flood --ziggurat was more as escape tower from water they surely well remembered, John.
@@DanielWesleyKCK Jasher is not a forgery. Saying that is proof that you haven't read it. The Bible quotes the Book of Jasher and i taught exhaustively from it. If you want to understand the Tower of Babel and the Land of Shinar or the ancient map of the world from the beginning and leading up to the flood and the confusion at the Tower of Babel 340 years after the flood; there is nothing stopping you from doing so. th-cam.com/video/d6p7mlSGTTw/w-d-xo.html
he makes good points but seems to ignore the mentallity of the people building the tower... they were rebels, not interested in God coming down, but rather survive another flood, and forming a community that refuses to spread out .
Babel can also be allegorical to man's sins....In the face of Holy God....We keep building our own lusts and anything named sin ...craving for power...minus God...its as sinful as eating forbidden fruit....as proud a sin as that of fallen angels' who were opposed to God.... But in a twinkle of an eye....The babel tower like sins are demolished that is forgiven by our Creator
Dr Walton and Michael Heiser are Key to understanding ANE. What a great gift YHWH has given us in their works.
Michael Heiser?? Certainly not. New Age false teacher. He's not even a Christian, just an "apocryphal researcher".
@@samphonnetgamgee5625 I know Heiser's work very well and can honestly say that he is certainly not a "New Age false teacher". Calling him an "apocryphal researcher" might not be too wrong since he does focus a lot on the writings of second temple Judaism and how these writings influenced the authors of the New Testament. But that doesn't make him a heretic. Most biblical scholars (if not all) acknowledge the fact that the New Testament authors also made use of the non-canonical Jewish writings of the time.
Whatwere zigurats for?
OK that's nice, but everyone just sees the tower. Read Genesis again, they were quite clear that they wanted to build the city with a tower to make a name for themselves *so they would not be scattered*. This is because God had *commanded* them to spread out and fill the earth, copying the command to Adam. They didn't want to scatter, so God scrambled their language, and they scattered.
Amen. Every. Desent person on earth. 🌏. ❤ god blessings.
Why separate people?
did you explain about the nephelim and the fallen angels?
Why di the hods destroyed kt?
The ziggurat was not built for that reason. They were built because of the fear of the return of Noah’s flood.
The reason they wanted to build the Tower of Babel was so they wouldn’t scatter
Uh I don’t know maybe it extremely difficult to build a ziggurat in the Ararat mountains?
I don’t necessarily disagree with you. I would be more dogmatic when it comes to “scattered” As being the main reason because that is in scripture. It is non-inspired writers like Josephus that points out the fear of potential floodwaters
Open that God will come down that is my biggest problem I don’t see that in scripture
None of your guesses are supported by the 9 verses given. The known purpose for building a ziggurat is to get the god to come down. You read into it about their fear of another flood, which God said he wouldn't do. If you are a scholar of ANE perhaps you should know that.
This is a dangerous statement and territory to enter into:
Quoting 2nd line of text in video description:
*" You’ve heard many Bible stories hundreds of times, but how many behind-the-scenes details are you missing? "*
By that you can only mean going outside of scripture. There is nothing wrong with this as long as it is in alignment with scripture WITHOUT PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. There can be no contradictions elsewhere as a result. Otherwise your teaching scripture not from scripture but from outside and your seeking outside understanding that your itching ears want to hear rather then what the scriptures provided to use for the plain meaning and understanding. Scripture interprets scripture. This is extremely dangerous territory starting with an extremely dangerous statement to begin with. I am require to warn.
I disagree with this. The Tower of Babel can only be understood in light of the one who built it. When we examine the text we discover four things about the man who built The Tower.
First, we know that Babel and the tower were built by a rebellious man. The definition of Nimrod is “to rebel.” This is not a man who seeks Yahweh’s presence. He is a rebel.
Second, we know that Nimrod became “mighty over earth.” He ruled humanity and thus did not want people leaving his kingdom. He wanted them under his thumb.
Third, we know that Nimrod was hostile toward Yahweh. He was a mighty hunter “before,” or “in the face of” or “in opposition to” or “hostile toward” Yahweh.
He most certainly did not build this ziggurat in hopes of getting closer to Yahweh.
Fourth, we know that they sought to make for “themselves a name.” They didn’t want Yahweh exalted. They wanted themselves exalted.
That’s my 2 cents anyway. Take it for what it’s worth. This and a $5 will get you a cup of coffee.
Love it... You put into words what I had in my head 😌😃😄
Thank you...
It's from Zondervan...so of course it's a commercial for their Bible. Walton's info is confirmed by other scholars; it adds more ideas from the ANE to the text. Isn't it interesting the ziggurats are found across the World?
You need a lesson in atmospheric sciences. There is something called plasma tubes that surround the planet. They are at an elevation of 50 miles currently. Oxygen is magnetic hence aquifer systems producing magnetic fields. Every so often the planet floods by a collapsing of the atmosphere. This brings the ionosphere closer to the planet surface.Thousands of years ago that would’ve brought the plasma tubes within tower distance. This is backed by atmospheric sciences and electromagnetism
Nimrod wasn't trying to erect this tower for YAH to come down. He wasn't trying to spread the kingdom of Yah. Read Jasher.
good comment!
Nah. Think i'll pass. Why? Here's why:
_The author is unknown although it is assumed by academics that the author was an Orthodox Jew based off the fact that the work shows influence from the Talmud, Rashi's commentary, Pirke de Rabbi Eliezer; the Yalkut; the Chronicle of Moses; Yosippon; Midrash Abkir and also the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible)._ [Wikisource]
Hopefully you (anyone) don't need an explanation of the above paragraph. The answer(s) are contained w/in it. You should not object unless you're an Orthodox Jew who relies ONLY on the Talmud for interpretation(s).
@REF_EsotericHistory But it shows influence from the Talmud
The Jasher you're referring to is a forgery.
@al karg Do you think that interpretations from the Talmud or other sources are absolutely of no use?
the background music is not exactly in the background; it's very annoying
Interesting theory. Problem is it conflicts with what God says in Gen 11. They were putting themselves above God. Gen 9:1 God commanded them to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. They were saying "No! Let us make a name for ourselves (not for God or His glory), otherwise we will be scattered abroad." In essence we want the glory, don't want to give it to God, and don't want to obey Him. Apparently, Dr. Walton is another liberal theologian who doesn't care what God's word says. I hope I'm wrong.
Since when has he been a liberal theologian?
Absolutely amazing insight
I agree.
There is no evidence on this insight.
I believe they built the tower of babylon and ziggurats so high because they consciously remember the great flood during Noahs time and attempted to escape that fate by building as high as they could.
Lol
I am a Christian and not trying to be difficult here but if that were true, why would they start building in a low laying location rather than a mountain or at least a much higher plateau ? Some suspect they tried to reach God's Dome overhead.
I find it quite interesting that the Tower of Babel was apparently built "next to" or close by the existing Jewish Temple at that time. To me that shows how Nimrod and his disobedient followers were trying to set up a counterfit way of approaching God rather than in the manor that he had commanded them to. That way was through his Temple and the sacrificial offerings performed there by people with the recognized Priesthood authority to do so. As with Cains offering, Satan always trys to get people to disobey God by convincing them to do things their way and for their benefit rather than Gods.
The exiting Jewish temple at that time? There weren't any Jews yet, let alone Judaism.
Awesome! The only issue is, he ended it by claiming his study bible was exclusive from the others, and in saying that, he was trying to make a name for himself for his own gain. 🤔
Um, the Lord definitely came down to that place ... And confused the languages ... Say no to One World Government ... Forever 🍃
There never has been one world government and there never will be this side of the second coming.
No mention of the Cyberdemon?
God blessings love ❤ Israel 🇮🇱 forever. Never. Forget. The. Real meaning. We were. All divided. Into different. Languages. To. Learn. To respect. One another. God. Excists. Amen.
Nice shirt color
It seems they also tried to make a name for themselves by bringing the ark of the covenant onto the Philistine battlefield in 1st Samuel. They tried to use or manipulate His presence for their own purpose. That didn't go well either.
it wasn't about having God in the pcket but to remove him
Exactly!!
Elon musk is trying to go to Mars. God what you think? (with due respect)
Read Obadiah 1. He ll tell you.
Obadiah 1:4 (KJV) Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, (the eagle has landed) and though thou set thy nest among the stars, (nasa) thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.
Isaiah 14:13-15 (KJV) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
@@collinb480 Lol seriously.
The musical background is a distraction and makes analytical thinking less possible. We do not need musical entertainment in bible study.
Kool
And yet..and yet, BOOK of YASHER (I hope you read it) says different. It was act of defiance as bricks were also covered with tar, so solid against any second flood --ziggurat was more as escape tower from water they surely well remembered, John.
The Jasher everyone keeps referring to is a very late forgery. Pay it no attention.
i see no contradiction
the ark was a tabernacle & sacred space that moves through chaos.
@@DanielWesleyKCK Jasher is not a forgery. Saying that is proof that you haven't read it. The Bible quotes the Book of Jasher and i taught exhaustively from it. If you want to understand the Tower of Babel and the Land of Shinar or the ancient map of the world from the beginning and leading up to the flood and the confusion at the Tower of Babel 340 years after the flood; there is nothing stopping you from doing so. th-cam.com/video/d6p7mlSGTTw/w-d-xo.html
he makes good points but seems to ignore the mentallity of the people building the tower...
they were rebels, not interested in God coming down, but rather survive another flood, and forming a community that refuses to spread out .
The God's that are mentioned here ... Are they in any way ancient aliens??
This is some horseshit
You try then...
Babel can also be allegorical to man's sins....In the face of Holy God....We keep building our own lusts and anything named sin ...craving for power...minus God...its as sinful as eating forbidden fruit....as proud a sin as that of fallen angels' who were opposed to God....
But in a twinkle of an eye....The babel tower like sins are demolished that is forgiven by our Creator
that is not true what you said , the ppl wanted to kill God and take over Heaven , read your Bible .