Luis is a great guy that gets misunderstood and judged too many times in the group. The surrogacy journey for him is very important to him because right now he isn't close with his family and wants to have a child of his own so he can heal to call family
But as Kemp said it makes more sense to find a great girl get married and then have a family than have a baby. He wants to skip too many steps and it is a bit concerning
Yes I thought the same too. 😁 and for his so called friends to give him no grace 🥲. Isn’t this the same thing parents do when choosing a surrogate 🤔 ! Seeing if your personalities mesh !
Luis isn’t gay, he just doesn’t know how to court women and interact with people normally given he grew up in that cult…but don’t get it twisted, he wants to be a playboy like Diamond, he just ain’t got the rizz for it
He’s not, he’s just annoying and lacks social cues. I think he does a lot of things for attention (they all do) but even with the surrogacy story if he was actually serious, he would have done so by now…it’s been 11 years since he was excommunicated and with his money and fame it wouldn’t be hard to get a surrogate. So he’s doing this for the cameras cause even his whole auditioning of ladies was ridiculous and I’m glad Ini went off on him. He’s actually so annoying and irritating to me
@mandymusembi751 That actually makes more sense. Not the ex communication being from 11 years ago 😮 He is milking it 😅 He's Namibian, which explains the social awkwardness. Namibian guys are so handsome, but they act so strange. I wonder how the socialization occurs because they seem to really not understand social cues at all.
Ini went off on Luis for absolutely no reason at all. That was uncalled for and so over the top. He was totally right for giving her the energy right back. He shouldn’t have apologized for a thing 🙄🙄🙄
I agree, and i feel like many ppl didn't. She was projecting her situation onto him & all other women - while terrible, uncalled for. He also DIDNT EVEN KNOW about her situation. I did think the meeting with his friends was odd BUT do ppl realize that ppl who do surrogacy DO have to do interviews to decide the best candidate to carry their child? They do get to make a choice. That's literally how it works.
Nadia’s behaviour was towards Annie was over the top. Calling her out is one thing but she went for the white meat. She should have sat this season out. She was fast to tell Zari what Annie was saying about her wedding but not what Fantana had to say. Nadia just doesn’t like Annie and was looking for all reasons to go for her.
Thank you! Finally someone said it. All I see is people praising her for bad behaviour when she CLEARLY crossed the line into projecting her own anger on someone else. Shameful.
I feel bad for Luis because Fantana is always coming after him and he has a right to defend himself. He’s the ONLY person on the show sharing a personal moment of his life and being made fun of because of it. If it was a woman having a surrogacy decision making process. She would get more sympathy
Their homes are rented. Annie’s house is actually rented to shoot her scenes. The apartments are from a well known hotel in Sandton. Kefi , Naked and Nadia own their homes
He never said there was a voice note. He said he was on the phone in 3 way and could hear her saying all those things about him. There was never a voice note. Annie sounded crazy continuously bringing up a voice note that never was
This whole voice note situation has been getting too much so I had to confirm for myself whether Annie was losing it or if Swanky is just lying. If you go back to season 2 episode 5 around the 6:50 mark, Swanky does imply that he has a recording of Annie on the call and he’s not releasing it for the sake of her kids. So Annie didn’t make it up🗣️ she still does need therapy though😩
This whole voice note situation has been getting too much so I had to confirm for myself whether Annie was losing it or if Swanky is just lying. If you go back to season 2 episode 5 around the 6:50 mark, Swanky does imply that he has a recording of Annie on the call and he’s not releasing it for the sake of her kids. So Annie didn’t make it up🗣️ she still does need therapy though😩
If they come back for season four, which I hope and pray they do, they do not need to do it without Andile!!!! That’s the voice of reason we’ve been missing. He’s being the calm in the storm this whole time and then this season he’s just gone. I don’t like it!
Beside the great fashion, the wigs and the beefs, we don’t see much. Zari supposedly a boss lady: we never saw her at work, running her businesses even for a minute. Diamond: no concert backstage, hanging out with the cast, not even a showcase. DJ Naked: never taped at a gig with cast members cheering. Swanky and Kefilwe: please Netflix, a pretend photoshoot of their styling at least! We would like to see them do what they do for a living.
@@longlegsshortpatience i agree with this! I think she feels shame that she had to do it and it reminds me of when Andy Cohen had to give a pep talk to Kandi to stop feeling shame
DJ Naked got me angry. Kayleigh really loves him and wants to spend the rest of her life with him but commitment makes him afraid to get serious. But Khanyi helped him out the last episode to make his decision.
Am I the only one who doesn't empathize with Luis wanting a surrogate. Ini struggled with fertility. Miscarriages and years of trying to get pregnant before going that route. Luis has not gone through the struggles of fertility. Surrogacy is often a route people take when they are unable to have a child. For many it is a last resort. For Ini she felt it was a slap in the face. Luis can create a family. Nothing is stopping him from the traditional route. For many women, they've tried everything before jumping to Surrogacy.
The issue with Ini and Luis was the fact that they didn't know each other. He shouldn't of invited her there because they didn't know each other's backgrounds, hence the argument. Nadia was in the right to put Annie in her place. Although Annie is going through something, it doesn't mean she had the right to attack Nadia. I love Swanky!! No swanky, no styling 😂
I get where Luis is coming from, but I understand Ini on a different level. I have experienced the loss of 2 children due to incompetent cervix. My first child was completely complication free , but from there, I had very traumatic pregnancies. And it's triggering. He didn't know what she'd been through. And I think to her it was traumatic for her. It wasn't something she did by choice.
Also the fact that no one is seeing Fantana’s play is funny to me. Sis is chasing the bag, THAT’S IT, THAT’S ALL!! She know Diamond ain’t a serious guy and she knows her career is non existent so she’s trying to be like Zuchu (his Tanzanian gf) fuck the superstar and hope to get signed under him (or get pregnant, whichever comes first) except Zuchu actually makes really good Bongo music 😅 She even said it when she was acting dumb when Nadia was going off on him, she pretends to be oblivious so he can keep her around and spoil her. That girl knew she wasn’t pregnant before the season started but she needed a storyline Personally I wanna see how far she’ll take it though I don’t care for her personally but she grew on me this season when she showed loyalty to her friends and providing adlibs for Nadia during the Annie cuss out show😂
2 words: INI EDO😍😍😍 Thats my girl from waaaaay back when i used to buy the African movie CDs from Brooklyn and Queens! Side note: Why Annie's wig was lifting in the back at the party Naked threw her?
Replay crew: I feel vindicated I was saying Luis is not the great guy he wants to portray. He thinks he’s above a lot of the men’s behavior on the show but at times acts worse than them. He needs to sit on someone’s couch instead of trying to be a father
I am from Nigeria and I love love Annie and pray she will get through it. I am also praying for tuface because he has been dealing with health issues for a while but he never talked about it.
I want to like Luis so bad but his desire for a partner and children is literally because he thinks they will heal him. Human beings are not props Luis, go to therapy. I feel like I missed something between Annie and Nadia, Nadia's anger was so intense.
Africans are not necessarily open books like Americans. It’s important to not compare shows in America to Africa. They can do better with giving a little more information about the cast but they can only do so much. People that are not married won’t open up all their business to the world. Africa is generally very judgmental, at the end of the day, they are Africans first.
@kempire omg! There's been a Black Hawk helicopter and a Jet that crashed right at Regan.. about 2 hrs ago.. all I thought of was your hotel view when you visited us in DC last weekend
I'm not sure if you see this yet but there's a new fiance NATASHA OSAWARU that's why he made the announcement so he's can marry her apparently Annie thought she was going to be a second wife she didn't know she was going to be replaced @@Kempire
I was thinking the same too and all you kept saying Kempire was how low they were flying and you hope it didn’t run into you. Maybe you do have some 3rd eye you partially tapped into . So sad
Respectfully they really ganged up on Luis and treated him unfairly because they know he doesn't want to argue. Swanky was out of line the way he spoke to him. I also don't think he was auditioning women in that way, because they knew why they were there and the women WANT to be surrogates and agreed to the meeting.
It was never a voice note it was a phone call he never said voice note that was Anne playing a voice note of swanky asking her can him and her have a meet up to talk
If you do go to Africa. Start with south africa, namibia and the whole southern region. Much easier to navigate than the west especially as a solo traveller.
Fantana and Diamond are the African version of Caresha and Diddy. And we saw how that worked out. Khanyi face is hard to look at it, it's literally pink. I don't mind Aunduille, bring him back.
Annie and you took him back after this voice note? I understand that you look him but girrrllllll, put a witch Dr on him and make him run backwards for the rest of his life. 😊
I wasn’t feeling Ini at all. Her actions towards Luis was over the top for no reason. She was looking for her 10 minutes and grasp at anything to get it. Nexttttt
I could te something was going on with Annie when I see her wig plus she was bobbing her head like she had the world on her shoulders. She was not very argumentative even when Nadia came at her. They never say why Nadia was angry and crying . I get to understand it’s because she lost her man.
People should give tuface a break it has never been confirmed he cheated not even once since they got married just basesless rumors. Amnie was desperate to marry him because he was a big freaking deal still a legend. She got engaged to knowing his ex pero was pregnant annie wanted to win by becoming the wife and excuse me that voicenote of her ranting was wrong on her part because the lady she thought he went to see was actually secretly married this woman is trouble she is reportedly in Rehab because of drugs so wjy are we overlooking that
Luis is a great guy that gets misunderstood and judged too many times in the group. The surrogacy journey for him is very important to him because right now he isn't close with his family and wants to have a child of his own so he can heal to call family
But as Kemp said it makes more sense to find a great girl get married and then have a family than have a baby. He wants to skip too many steps and it is a bit concerning
Yes I thought the same too. 😁 and for his so called friends to give him no grace 🥲. Isn’t this the same thing parents do when choosing a surrogate 🤔 ! Seeing if your personalities mesh !
@sunshinemoon7075 💯
Luis isn’t gay, he just doesn’t know how to court women and interact with people normally given he grew up in that cult…but don’t get it twisted, he wants to be a playboy like Diamond, he just ain’t got the rizz for it
Thank you for clarifying this. I was so annoyed like is he gay or not? 🤔
He’s not, he’s just annoying and lacks social cues. I think he does a lot of things for attention (they all do) but even with the surrogacy story if he was actually serious, he would have done so by now…it’s been 11 years since he was excommunicated and with his money and fame it wouldn’t be hard to get a surrogate. So he’s doing this for the cameras cause even his whole auditioning of ladies was ridiculous and I’m glad Ini went off on him. He’s actually so annoying and irritating to me
@mandymusembi751 That actually makes more sense. Not the ex communication being from 11 years ago 😮 He is milking it 😅 He's Namibian, which explains the social awkwardness. Namibian guys are so handsome, but they act so strange. I wonder how the socialization occurs because they seem to really not understand social cues at all.
Ini went off on Luis for absolutely no reason at all. That was uncalled for and so over the top. He was totally right for giving her the energy right back. He shouldn’t have apologized for a thing 🙄🙄🙄
Honestly that was Ini looking for a moment and a easy target
Yes same ! Like u can’t have kids so no one else can? That woman is very odd🥲
I agree, and i feel like many ppl didn't. She was projecting her situation onto him & all other women - while terrible, uncalled for. He also DIDNT EVEN KNOW about her situation.
I did think the meeting with his friends was odd BUT do ppl realize that ppl who do surrogacy DO have to do interviews to decide the best candidate to carry their child? They do get to make a choice. That's literally how it works.
The way Zari reads needs to be studied. The Housewives shade priceless and quick
Nadia’s behaviour was towards Annie was over the top. Calling her out is one thing but she went for the white meat. She should have sat this season out. She was fast to tell Zari what Annie was saying about her wedding but not what Fantana had to say. Nadia just doesn’t like Annie and was looking for all reasons to go for her.
Thank you! Finally someone said it. All I see is people praising her for bad behaviour when she CLEARLY crossed the line into projecting her own anger on someone else. Shameful.
Yea I can’t rock with Nadia. It was too much and nasty
I feel bad for Luis because Fantana is always coming after him and he has a right to defend himself. He’s the ONLY person on the show sharing a personal moment of his life and being made fun of because of it. If it was a woman having a surrogacy decision making process. She would get more sympathy
I agree with you 💯on Fantana! Why is she back?
For the people in the back👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I don't understand her
She really gets on my nerves
I cant stand her, she is fake and thirsty. She broke too
Their homes are rented. Annie’s house is actually rented to shoot her scenes. The apartments are from a well known hotel in Sandton. Kefi , Naked and Nadia own their homes
Zari owns her home too... Diamond as well purchased his house when he was still with Zari
He never said there was a voice note. He said he was on the phone in 3 way and could hear her saying all those things about him. There was never a voice note. Annie sounded crazy continuously bringing up a voice note that never was
@DJ-wl9iw actually Swanky left her a voice note when he heard about banker vs. 2Baba allegedly pregnancy rumours.
This whole voice note situation has been getting too much so I had to confirm for myself whether Annie was losing it or if Swanky is just lying. If you go back to season 2 episode 5 around the 6:50 mark, Swanky does imply that he has a recording of Annie on the call and he’s not releasing it for the sake of her kids. So Annie didn’t make it up🗣️ she still does need therapy though😩
Luis wasn’t dating that woman. He said she was his date but we never even saw them standing together let alone talking.
This whole voice note situation has been getting too much so I had to confirm for myself whether Annie was losing it or if Swanky is just lying. If you go back to season 2 episode 5 around the 6:50 mark, Swanky does imply that he has a recording of Annie on the call and he’s not releasing it for the sake of her kids. So Annie didn’t make it up🗣️ she still does need therapy though😩
If they come back for season four, which I hope and pray they do, they do not need to do it without Andile!!!! That’s the voice of reason we’ve been missing. He’s being the calm in the storm this whole time and then this season he’s just gone. I don’t like it!
I love me some Andile. He is Mr Smooooooth😍
Can’t believe TH-cam didn’t send me a notification 😢 praying for Annie’s mental health 🙏🏾
Beside the great fashion, the wigs and the beefs, we don’t see much. Zari supposedly a boss lady: we never saw her at work, running her businesses even for a minute. Diamond: no concert backstage, hanging out with the cast, not even a showcase. DJ Naked: never taped at a gig with cast members cheering. Swanky and Kefilwe: please Netflix, a pretend photoshoot of their styling at least! We would like to see them do what they do for a living.
Ini was vile and a hypocrite when it come to Luis.
Luis didn't deserve that
I thought she was doing way too much and then Swanky jumping in like a holler monkey.
Her reaction showed she’s not over not being able to conceive. She was projecting and there was a better way to decline.
@@longlegsshortpatience i agree with this! I think she feels shame that she had to do it and it reminds me of when Andy Cohen had to give a pep talk to Kandi to stop feeling shame
The homes are mostly rented / leased for shooting
DJ Naked got me angry. Kayleigh really loves him and wants to spend the rest of her life with him but commitment makes him afraid to get serious. But Khanyi helped him out the last episode to make his decision.
Kayleigh is wasting her time. She needs to move on and find a man that is excited about starting a life with her
... Until he makes her the literal "lord of the rings" lmao.
Am I the only one who doesn't empathize with Luis wanting a surrogate. Ini struggled with fertility. Miscarriages and years of trying to get pregnant before going that route. Luis has not gone through the struggles of fertility. Surrogacy is often a route people take when they are unable to have a child. For many it is a last resort. For Ini she felt it was a slap in the face. Luis can create a family. Nothing is stopping him from the traditional route. For many women, they've tried everything before jumping to Surrogacy.
The issue with Ini and Luis was the fact that they didn't know each other. He shouldn't of invited her there because they didn't know each other's backgrounds, hence the argument. Nadia was in the right to put Annie in her place. Although Annie is going through something, it doesn't mean she had the right to attack Nadia. I love Swanky!! No swanky, no styling 😂
I get where Luis is coming from, but I understand Ini on a different level. I have experienced the loss of 2 children due to incompetent cervix. My first child was completely complication free , but from there, I had very traumatic pregnancies. And it's triggering. He didn't know what she'd been through. And I think to her it was traumatic for her. It wasn't something she did by choice.
Also the fact that no one is seeing Fantana’s play is funny to me. Sis is chasing the bag, THAT’S IT, THAT’S ALL!! She know Diamond ain’t a serious guy and she knows her career is non existent so she’s trying to be like Zuchu (his Tanzanian gf) fuck the superstar and hope to get signed under him (or get pregnant, whichever comes first) except Zuchu actually makes really good Bongo music 😅
She even said it when she was acting dumb when Nadia was going off on him, she pretends to be oblivious so he can keep her around and spoil her. That girl knew she wasn’t pregnant before the season started but she needed a storyline
Personally I wanna see how far she’ll take it though I don’t care for her personally but she grew on me this season when she showed loyalty to her friends and providing adlibs for Nadia during the Annie cuss out show😂
Her husband is absolutely gorgeous
2 words: INI EDO😍😍😍 Thats my girl from waaaaay back when i used to buy the African movie CDs from Brooklyn and Queens! Side note: Why Annie's wig was lifting in the back at the party Naked threw her?
Watching season 2 when it came out I said that Annie shouldn’t come back for season 3. I could see something wasn’t right.
Replay crew: I feel vindicated I was saying Luis is not the great guy he wants to portray. He thinks he’s above a lot of the men’s behavior on the show but at times acts worse than them. He needs to sit on someone’s couch instead of trying to be a father
I am from Nigeria and I love love Annie and pray she will get through it.
I am also praying for tuface because he has been dealing with health issues for a while but he never talked about it.
I want to like Luis so bad but his desire for a partner and children is literally because he thinks they will heal him. Human beings are not props Luis, go to therapy.
I feel like I missed something between Annie and Nadia, Nadia's anger was so intense.
Reality TV isn’t new in Africa. What is the caller talking about. It’s been around for 2 decades.
Africans are not necessarily open books like Americans. It’s important to not compare shows in America to Africa. They can do better with giving a little more information about the cast but they can only do so much.
People that are not married won’t open up all their business to the world. Africa is generally very judgmental, at the end of the day, they are Africans first.
@kempire omg! There's been a Black Hawk helicopter and a Jet that crashed right at Regan.. about 2 hrs ago.. all I thought of was your hotel view when you visited us in DC last weekend
Me too. So sad!
Prayers and blessings for EVERYONE! " Sign O' the times " @@Kempire
I'm not sure if you see this yet but there's a new fiance NATASHA OSAWARU that's why he made the announcement so he's can marry her apparently Annie thought she was going to be a second wife she didn't know she was going to be replaced @@Kempire
I was thinking the same too and all you kept saying Kempire was how low they were flying and you hope it didn’t run into you. Maybe you do have some 3rd eye you partially tapped into . So sad
1:19:41 I would agree, think about it, when it gets too much, she leaves.
I hate the time difference. I love this channel but can never catch the live with my South African time 😭
Same😢
Ini is like Voila Davis in America
love all her movies
Fantana reminds me of Sweet Tea from RHOP.
Yes, very annoying 😊
I believe Luis was raised in a cult
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We need Fantana on the show. She’s actually playing dumb. She knows what’s up
@Kempire Thank you for the Live today actually Lives today . I needed it ❤❤❤❤❤
Respectfully they really ganged up on Luis and treated him unfairly because they know he doesn't want to argue. Swanky was out of line the way he spoke to him. I also don't think he was auditioning women in that way, because they knew why they were there and the women WANT to be surrogates and agreed to the meeting.
1:27:44 maybe she have a problem with women who don’t stand up for themselves. Look how she reacted with Fantana in reference to Diamond.
Didn't Swanky play some of the voice note at the end of season 2?
It was never a voice note it was a phone call he never said voice note that was Anne playing a voice note of swanky asking her can him and her have a meet up to talk
All they do is argue. Its weird. The anger never matches the crime.
Something about pretending to not know swanky’s occupation is…phobic
I don’t like Fantana either. She is annoying af to me
Too thirsty it hurts my head. Make her go away already
If you do go to Africa. Start with south africa, namibia and the whole southern region. Much easier to navigate than the west especially as a solo traveller.
I knew you wouldn’t like Luis because I sure didn’t I agree with you. 💯%
Fantana and Diamond are the African version of Caresha and Diddy. And we saw how that worked out. Khanyi face is hard to look at it, it's literally pink. I don't mind Aunduille, bring him back.
Annie’s behaviour on season 1 to 3 was off.
Annie and you took him back after this voice note? I understand that you look him but girrrllllll, put a witch Dr on him and make him run backwards for the rest of his life. 😊
zari’s husband said he works in minerals
Minerals for where? Dude has no job,runs no business. He is feeding off his sugar mama.
I wasn’t feeling Ini at all. Her actions towards Luis was over the top for no reason. She was looking for her 10 minutes and grasp at anything to get it. Nexttttt
I could te something was going on with Annie when I see her wig plus she was bobbing her head like she had the world on her shoulders. She was not very argumentative even when Nadia came at her. They never say why Nadia was angry and crying . I get to understand it’s because she lost her man.
Anne go get help and come back in grand style like in Yankee Girls movie, ok. love you beautiful, you"re too good for him.
Lagos... There's Real Housewives of Lagos
People should give tuface a break it has never been confirmed he cheated not even once since they got married just basesless rumors. Amnie was desperate to marry him because he was a big freaking deal still a legend. She got engaged to knowing his ex pero was pregnant annie wanted to win by becoming the wife and excuse me that voicenote of her ranting was wrong on her part because the lady she thought he went to see was actually secretly married this woman is trouble she is reportedly in Rehab because of drugs so wjy are we overlooking that
I absolutely detest that Fantana is a representation of Black American Women on this show.
I think Luis is gay
My thought too
He must be
Luis is dating no one. He’s looking for a beard
While Swank might be good at fashion, that’s it. Nothing else. He isn’t interesting.
Roman Catholicism doesn’t banish people pls. Not correct.