shrike... Doesn't have team utility. Her vision scout not only reveals other team locations, but also provides an antiheal. Doesn't have as easy to hit escape as Myth. Her AOE stun has more area than Myths pushback, and can be used on multiple enemies. Doesn't have the ability to engage without line of sight. Her ult goes through walls and can be combo'd with her vision. Has the highest damage and second highest range in the game Has insane mobility potential with the right items to enhance her long range dash What are the strengths of shrike? Well she synergies very well with Kingpin and Myth which both can provide massive CC for her to secure both her stun and double snipe. Why is she weak? She can be dove. Since she does more damage from range, she becomes ineffective at close range. How to play Shrike? Well you have to stay at range and work with your team so you can follow up on CC and receive healing/shielding/movespeed. Omen shields can be broken with her snipe but if there are other enemies around you have to focus them because it will take too long to kill Omen. She counters Hudson well because he is stationary and an easy target when shooting. Similar to other team based brawlers, you have to kill targets in a certain order to maximize potential. For example, if you kill their healer first, this is usually a good tactic; a healer will usually have lower health and also killing them will stop their healing potential. If you focus the tank, you will likely get focused by their damage and not be able to kill your target. I notice that bad Shrikes will often focus the wrong targets, not use their stun, and not focus targets for the double tap. Since the #1 ranked player atm mains shrike, I don't think this video is accurate. Shrike is definitely not trash, in fact, she's pretty disgustingly good. You can insta down people with two shots. There are some games that you are just hitting all your shots and you kill everyone, and others where you can't hit hypermobile characters. This is why she is best played in Squads where you have a high CC tank that can help set you up, or a healer to keep you alive.
She's not broken, but people saying she's not good, or a "skill check" becoming useless against good players are delusional. If she's in a good mmr lobby chances are she's gonna be played properly. Gl "just diving" a shrike that hangs next to or just slightly behind her team, uses her shift (and possibly other mobility powers) properly while flick trixkshotting in mid air.
For anyone who played League, she's the Darius of Supervive. She stomps in low elo because low elo doesn't know how to play against her. They line up for her slow as hell double tap then screech out when big number goes brrrrr because they didn't tap WASD after seeing her clear indication of a basic attack. Like how with Darius, low elo lets him walk up to them so he can apply stacks then hit you for massive damage. However, beyond low elo she's genuinely trash. Like you touched on, it doesn't help that there is another "sniper character" [is Shrike really a sniper whenever her basic fire is similar range as most other character's?] who fills Shrike's role but is actually useful. When I saw the 24/7 live beta patch notes, I was disappointed she didn't see any kind of buff or improvement. She's the cover girl, I hope they don't leave her in the abyss; because with how she is now I basically see any fight against a team with a Shrike as an easy 3v4 freelo.
Except here her dash can refresh infinitely if she lands the initial slow/ground and she can preload her damage shot off her dash as well. You either give up against Shrike or you dive with your team and focus her like she can nuke your team because she will eventually lol. She may not be OP/broken but she's still ridiculously unfun to play as or against
@@shanegale6143 I'm making the comparison of Darius as the historic low elo pubstomper to Shrike as the low elo pubstomper. Darius is good in higher mmr, but as a couterpick (gotta make this clear before you spit out some out of context opgg stats). If you blind pick Darius in high elo, like how every game of Shrike is a blind pick, you're going to have a bad time.
@@ItsLouisnotLouis Yea not sure if i would trust this guys opinion lol. Darius even at his very weakest has always been at least B-tier (even as a blind). And sure he was known as pubstomper like, 12-11 years ago. Maybe 8 if ur being generous To anyone reading who wants a proper comparison i think one that makes alot of sense is AP w max kaisa. Strong poke neutral game .. IF and only WHEN she can hit her easily dodgable skillshot *twice*. Is extremely unreliable (read: useless) in the event of a collapse/any skirmish situation where the DPS needs to interface within any distance shorter than max range. Despite being somewhat mobile. Offers zero utility outside of her potentially high but unreliable dmg If ur old school then maybe pre-rework nidalee idk
I wont agree.... As much some points are righrt she is kinda pubstomper, with her current set she can be OP against begginers and medium players while weak/decent if palyers are more skilled and familiar with game... Player base is still going to establish but there is still more sytuation she can be problem then not. We all gonna see how shes gonna be handled after EA but i wont call her trash right now...
Imo she is not trash BUT she is not good. Shes one of the worse character cus her kit is dogshit but overall she's not super bad unlike what everyone says
What about using her in a premade environment where your team plays around her strong neutral game and can choose heroes with strong disengage to get people off her?
I think the argument is that you’re better off building your team around a stronger Hunter than her. Building off a Myth or Shiv will ultimately give you more value than building off of a Shrike
Homie her weakness is that she has to hold her dash? Wich also grounds everyone that engages on her. Sure men. I get that she is weak in area with many walls but other than that she has crazy pressure and is one of the strongest characters because of her range,stun and dmg over long range
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you gotta admit it is pretty funny the shrike bot almost 2 taps you while glazing myth
lmao THAT shrike is op
shrike...
Doesn't have team utility. Her vision scout not only reveals other team locations, but also provides an antiheal.
Doesn't have as easy to hit escape as Myth. Her AOE stun has more area than Myths pushback, and can be used on multiple enemies.
Doesn't have the ability to engage without line of sight. Her ult goes through walls and can be combo'd with her vision.
Has the highest damage and second highest range in the game
Has insane mobility potential with the right items to enhance her long range dash
What are the strengths of shrike? Well she synergies very well with Kingpin and Myth which both can provide massive CC for her to secure both her stun and double snipe.
Why is she weak? She can be dove. Since she does more damage from range, she becomes ineffective at close range.
How to play Shrike? Well you have to stay at range and work with your team so you can follow up on CC and receive healing/shielding/movespeed. Omen shields can be broken with her snipe but if there are other enemies around you have to focus them because it will take too long to kill Omen. She counters Hudson well because he is stationary and an easy target when shooting. Similar to other team based brawlers, you have to kill targets in a certain order to maximize potential. For example, if you kill their healer first, this is usually a good tactic; a healer will usually have lower health and also killing them will stop their healing potential. If you focus the tank, you will likely get focused by their damage and not be able to kill your target. I notice that bad Shrikes will often focus the wrong targets, not use their stun, and not focus targets for the double tap.
Since the #1 ranked player atm mains shrike, I don't think this video is accurate. Shrike is definitely not trash, in fact, she's pretty disgustingly good. You can insta down people with two shots. There are some games that you are just hitting all your shots and you kill everyone, and others where you can't hit hypermobile characters. This is why she is best played in Squads where you have a high CC tank that can help set you up, or a healer to keep you alive.
She's not broken, but people saying she's not good, or a "skill check" becoming useless against good players are delusional. If she's in a good mmr lobby chances are she's gonna be played properly. Gl "just diving" a shrike that hangs next to or just slightly behind her team, uses her shift (and possibly other mobility powers) properly while flick trixkshotting in mid air.
Lol you haven't played her at a high level.
Shes trash lol, stop coping
She is hands down the worst her entire kit is based on he left click basically
For anyone who played League, she's the Darius of Supervive. She stomps in low elo because low elo doesn't know how to play against her. They line up for her slow as hell double tap then screech out when big number goes brrrrr because they didn't tap WASD after seeing her clear indication of a basic attack. Like how with Darius, low elo lets him walk up to them so he can apply stacks then hit you for massive damage.
However, beyond low elo she's genuinely trash. Like you touched on, it doesn't help that there is another "sniper character" [is Shrike really a sniper whenever her basic fire is similar range as most other character's?] who fills Shrike's role but is actually useful. When I saw the 24/7 live beta patch notes, I was disappointed she didn't see any kind of buff or improvement. She's the cover girl, I hope they don't leave her in the abyss; because with how she is now I basically see any fight against a team with a Shrike as an easy 3v4 freelo.
Are you implying darius is bad above low/average mmr ?
its twitch. Noob stomper, weak kit.
Except here her dash can refresh infinitely if she lands the initial slow/ground and she can preload her damage shot off her dash as well. You either give up against Shrike or you dive with your team and focus her like she can nuke your team because she will eventually lol. She may not be OP/broken but she's still ridiculously unfun to play as or against
@@shanegale6143 I'm making the comparison of Darius as the historic low elo pubstomper to Shrike as the low elo pubstomper. Darius is good in higher mmr, but as a couterpick (gotta make this clear before you spit out some out of context opgg stats). If you blind pick Darius in high elo, like how every game of Shrike is a blind pick, you're going to have a bad time.
@@ItsLouisnotLouis Yea not sure if i would trust this guys opinion lol. Darius even at his very weakest has always been at least B-tier (even as a blind). And sure he was known as pubstomper like, 12-11 years ago. Maybe 8 if ur being generous
To anyone reading who wants a proper comparison i think one that makes alot of sense is AP w max kaisa. Strong poke neutral game .. IF and only WHEN she can hit her easily dodgable skillshot *twice*. Is extremely unreliable (read: useless) in the event of a collapse/any skirmish situation where the DPS needs to interface within any distance shorter than max range. Despite being somewhat mobile. Offers zero utility outside of her potentially high but unreliable dmg
If ur old school then maybe pre-rework nidalee idk
She's kinda frustrating to play against at early game when u don t have ur spell, other than that it's ok
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I wont agree.... As much some points are righrt she is kinda pubstomper, with her current set she can be OP against begginers and medium players while weak/decent if palyers are more skilled and familiar with game... Player base is still going to establish but there is still more sytuation she can be problem then not. We all gonna see how shes gonna be handled after EA but i wont call her trash right now...
Imo she is not trash BUT she is not good. Shes one of the worse character cus her kit is dogshit but overall she's not super bad unlike what everyone says
Cap. Hotbisquit, the 6000 rp rank 1 player is literally maining her rn. Don't listen to this guy. Play what you like.
Shrike bot olmost kill him with two shoots
that’s bc she’s op…
What about using her in a premade environment where your team plays around her strong neutral game and can choose heroes with strong disengage to get people off her?
I think the argument is that you’re better off building your team around a stronger Hunter than her. Building off a Myth or Shiv will ultimately give you more value than building off of a Shrike
Just play myth. Literally better shrike
Wrong
Homie her weakness is that she has to hold her dash? Wich also grounds everyone that engages on her. Sure men. I get that she is weak in area with many walls but other than that she has crazy pressure and is one of the strongest characters because of her range,stun and dmg over long range
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You use the amplifier build on shrike and that doesn't allow you to go big game hunter and the extreme ms buff you get from using it.