Honestly, it's not about education level-it's about common sense and respecting the wellbeing of others. Not being lazy. Taking an ounce of pride in what you do every day.
I love the context given on the car stopped on the bridge. The sped up footage from the other camera helps to show that the car was not stopped and sitting there to delay the bridge opening, as some were claiming on a video I saw that only had the main footage.
Why isn't there something to block the end of the sidewalk when the bridge goes up, or an electronic device on each end to count how many pedestrians, and cars go across, or motion detectors, or something? No, just one person, no backups.
At 2:26 you can see the gate on the sidewalk swing shut. Why it was so late, I don't know. (It might be because it is intended as "one-way" so you enter moving towards the camera, the 1st gate shuts behind you, and you are expected to contiune to cross, and then the gate shuts behind you again.) How do you get a counter to differentiate between a person, a biker, a motorcycle, and a car? What happens if a pedestrian gets into a car on the bridge, so the counter thinks there is one more person on the bridge than there is? You would then need an override, which an incompetnet bridge operator could just hit regardless. And on this bridge, there is that little lookout area on the left, what happens if there is a pedestiran there? What if there is a seagull on the bridge setting off a motion detector? What if the tech gets hacked, and the operator is so used to relying on the tech they don't even look at the bridge? Who pays buy, instal, and mantain the counters/ motion detectors on the 617,000+ bridges in the US? It SOUNDS like an easy solution, but I don't think it is. I imagine this is a hard job, because you have so much responsibility, but likely spend much of your time just sitting there, bored, but you can't stop paying attention for incoming boats, and MUST follow procedure for each and every bridge opening, which this operator failed to do. Not a complicated job, but a hard one. That's no excuse. The individual needs to take responsbility for failing to properly to their job. The company needs to have better training, records, and procedures. If an employee in a job like this messes up, you don't reprimand, you RETRAIN.
And only requires an 8th grade education?????? Your lifting a huge piece of roadway vertically in the air! Maybe we should start requiring properly educated and trained people 🤔
Not really just check for pedestrians and push a button. It doesn’t really need a college education or doctorate’s degree to operate a $31,000 per year job.
@@justanamateur1682 You really moved the goal post there with “college education” and “doctorate degree” from “only requires an eighth grade education”
@@justanamateur1682 doesn't mean only having an 8th grade education should be enough to operate that. If your comfortable with someone who barely learned math operating this peice of machinery then move by one and cross it every single day please 👍. I don't even trust the people making my mcdoubles with there high school education 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Reno420alex Barely learned math? Where did you go to school? I was working on Algebra II in 8th grade & would've been further ahead had I not been goofin off.
$15 and only 8th grade education....absolutely ridiculous, they should atleast be requiring a high-school diploma and a college degree with a salary of $22 per hr.... the cheap always comes out expensive, especially at the cost of a life.
get what you pay for too. Hire someone at the same payscale and requirements of most fast food places and thats the quality of work you'll get in return.
They need to also post times of beige opening and in different languages in bold letters and ad caution lights and a draw line tonot pull up to close to opening and a old sign that this bridge is a draw bridge and that needs to be in different languages so people can read and brail also for blind people and a automatic voice recording that repeated it self with warnings and traffic safety security with emergency radios or phones on them when the bridge is going to open security goes out to assist with traffic lineup
Something that they are not mentioning is that after a certain amount of time some welfare recipients are required to get a job and the state of Florida helps them get it. That doesn't have anything to do with the requirements for being a bridge tender not requiring certification and regular testing or the lack of cameras monitoring their behavior but I have no doubt some of those doing that job got it by help from the state.
Do you know what frost bite is , I’ve encountered horrible things people throwing stuff at me while driving down the road as I have picked up trash in the neighborhood . Makes me sad that person has no regard for my life or safety .
Ya don't really need a college education to sit there and press a button to make the bridge go up and down. There's probably just no one that wants the job, so they take anybody that applies, then stuff like this ends up happening.
I'm sure a reasonably smart household pet could operate a bridge safely. Grade achievement has nothing to do with it - it's common sense and responsibility. Think even Harvard or Yale could provide those?
@@hugh007 my comment stems from the doubt that these people have the intelligence and the acuity to always be accurate in this important job. I’m not saying it has any thing to do with a high school diploma but certainly if someone has a discipline to finish high school and has any aspirations of having a long-term place at this job then there oughta be training to find out if they possess the skills to do the job. I haven’t heard from anyone if there’s training or not besides maybe a short orientation I may be watching a video. It can be boring sitting there all the time and nothing ever happens and then tragedy happens and the operators of the bridge have to be ready… kind of like an emergency dispatcher. After all there is a lot more is at stake than whether or not a ship that needs the clearance gets through.
They need to up the reguirements these are people's lives here and the city wants to be cheap on hiring people to work wait untill this happens to acity workers family member then they might do something and spend a little money to beef up reguirements on working synch a dangerous pice of eguipment they should also have monthly training and safety procedures and first aid training and disater relief training if not monthly at least every 6months and the training should be mandatory for all personnel so if someone has to cover a shift then they know what to do their also should be loud alarms warning that the bridge is going up just like on train tracks and they should explore the safety mechanical system of the garage door opener if something gets in the way it stops her agaiñthe city needs to be held acountable just like the worker on that shift they were just doing their job and now they will spend along time in prison when the city should have had these safety things ahead of time what good does it do to put the person in prison for this accident when their was never proper traing it is the city that should be in prison not the worker for a accident that he didn't have any traing in what to do
Seriously. Eighth grade education should be enough to look and see if there’s somebody standing on the bridge. That is not a degree program. There might be some integrity involved, but that’s not about education. Let’s not pretend that it is. The people who go ahead and open up a bridge with somebody on it need to be held accountable because it is actually their fault and a choice that they made.
@STEVE VENTO : i’m entirely with your first couple of sentences. After that, we’re speculating derogatively about education of people hired. That part is not fair. You’re trying to make this about Education. It’s not about that. You don’t have to have much education to decide whether or not to kill somebody because you can. And we can’t be saying that all people who are hired to operate bridges with moving parts can be described as you insinuate.Otherwise, everybody who was hired to do such a job would be killing people in their operations of the moving parts of the bridges. But I absolutely agree with the first idea that you offered. I think it’s entirely about that. You don’t have to be a nuclear physicist or even a high school graduate to decide not to kill somebody. That’s an ethical and criminal choice. When you try to make it about minimal educational standards or other descriptors used for hiring criteria, you take the responsibility of the criminal who chose to kill another human being, and try to put that on the hiring entity. That’s just not right. The only way there’s a hiring entity, even if it’s a government body, there’s responsibility for that is if they fail to do a criminal record check, or if they think there’s a reason to doubt the person’s sanity and don’t have it checked. Outside of those circumstances, it’s entirely on the person who makes the choice. At risk of belabouring the point, I’ll put it this way: if you hire somebody to fix your car, and that person takes your car and chooses to run into a street festival full of people, killing many and maiming more, what would that have to do with you and your hiring practices? That employees or contractors decision to do something so devastating would have absolutely nothing to do with whether he had advanced factory training on your make and model of car versus a couple of basic auto shop courses from his/her high school days. Unless you knew that person had terrible antisocial tendencies, or was on the cusp of a catastrophic nervous breakdown, How would that be your fault? The employee who makes the choice is the one who is responsible. Because even if you think about yourself as a person in middle school, which was your suggestion of an educational level used for hiring practices, at that point you didn’t kill anybody. It had nothing to do with your education. You probably didn’t even consider harming another human being. And even if somebody to get on your nerves or bully you, you may have considered making a swing, but not killing them. But chances are you didn’t, because you have appropriate social impulse control. Even with only that much education. It was about your choice and value system.
They need two People. One on each side. That way if I hit the button to raise the bridge without checking to clear it. The other person can check and don't hit the button because he sees something I didn't catch. Like a person on the bridge or even a car still going across.
Why do drawbridges not have sensors on them like roller coasters? You would think in the day and time where restaurants may only exist on Uber eats or DoorDash that technology could help avoid these sorts of things.
I would like to know what kept the driver of the car to stop on the bridge without clearing the end. I didn’t see any restrictions also the bicyclists was near enough to step off. Why were these questions not asked instead of trying to make a sensation of the facts
Did the woman fall through when checking the damage to the rear of her car? And, how did the car get through when the bridge was signaling to go up - was there a gate that goes down and she still drove past it? Or was there no gate? Ultimately, the bridge tender is responsible because her actions led directly to the old woman's death. If she did her job, then the old woman would still be alive. That said, the old woman also deserves some blame for her series of stupid actions (i.e. not paying attention to the draw bridge warnings that it's going up, stopping the car right at the gap, and at least in hindsight for us - falling through the gap because she again wasn't paying attention to her surroundings when there was obviously no ground there). One could say that seniors may have a hard time understanding what's going on, processing their surroundings, etc. - in which case then, those seniors shouldn't be driving in the first place if their reasoning skills are that poor.
Yes, that should have been being done, garage doors have been doing that for well over a decade. There's way too much technology and advancements for stuff like this to happen
A lot of places have that in higher income places , and still trash gets thrown around , make them take their trash to the dumpster, they should stop that . Spoiled . Not me . I take my own to the dumpster . It got so out of hand . It just sits in the hallways or street. It’s awful. My hands hurt much . Think about what I’m saying .
It would be great if the state legislature could do something other than the dumb-assery such as the don't say gay legislation they've been up to lately.
@@michaelcossey8474 The car stopped on the bridge hoping for an insurance claim. It could’ve stopped a couple feet away from the bridge. The driver has a lower IQ than most 8th graders.
It's seems a tablet with a simple app that measures if someone is awake would help. Self driving cars have them so why not bridges or other jobs where sleeping is a problem? I am sure it exists and possibly auto reports to another email or such. Tesla could share their technology for good publicity.
Why did she stop there? Wanted some money for her family. Get real. Like if they hear the belly etc why are they crossing. She sped up n then stop like come on. The cyclist was booking it. B.s smh
LMAO both the car and bicyclists where just trying to get payed. They had more than enough time to get off 😂😂 and as for the 79 year old, she literally stops at the edge and waits even after hearing the warning. Yeah they should check before drawing the bridge but she was most definitely trying to see if they would notice her. She committed suicide.
Racist. I guess this is your idiotic way of comparing her to the highly accomplished and competent Ketanji Brown Jackson while also implying all black women are underqualified. Go play in traffic.
Honestly, it's not about education level-it's about common sense and respecting the wellbeing of others. Not being lazy. Taking an ounce of pride in what you do every day.
A lot of easy jobs still require hiring only highly competent operators.
I love the context given on the car stopped on the bridge. The sped up footage from the other camera helps to show that the car was not stopped and sitting there to delay the bridge opening, as some were claiming on a video I saw that only had the main footage.
Why isn't there something to block the end of the sidewalk when the bridge goes up, or an electronic device on each end to count how many pedestrians, and cars go across, or motion detectors, or something? No, just one person, no backups.
At 2:26 you can see the gate on the sidewalk swing shut. Why it was so late, I don't know. (It might be because it is intended as "one-way" so you enter moving towards the camera, the 1st gate shuts behind you, and you are expected to contiune to cross, and then the gate shuts behind you again.)
How do you get a counter to differentiate between a person, a biker, a motorcycle, and a car? What happens if a pedestrian gets into a car on the bridge, so the counter thinks there is one more person on the bridge than there is? You would then need an override, which an incompetnet bridge operator could just hit regardless. And on this bridge, there is that little lookout area on the left, what happens if there is a pedestiran there? What if there is a seagull on the bridge setting off a motion detector? What if the tech gets hacked, and the operator is so used to relying on the tech they don't even look at the bridge? Who pays buy, instal, and mantain the counters/ motion detectors on the 617,000+ bridges in the US?
It SOUNDS like an easy solution, but I don't think it is.
I imagine this is a hard job, because you have so much responsibility, but likely spend much of your time just sitting there, bored, but you can't stop paying attention for incoming boats, and MUST follow procedure for each and every bridge opening, which this operator failed to do. Not a complicated job, but a hard one. That's no excuse. The individual needs to take responsbility for failing to properly to their job. The company needs to have better training, records, and procedures. If an employee in a job like this messes up, you don't reprimand, you RETRAIN.
When they green screened the lady's face on the bridge I totally thought about the teletubbies baby in the sun..
They are putting lives at risk with the only reguireing a 8th gra
Sounds like you meet the qualifications to work for them cant even spell requiring correctly
Guy on the bicycle was just trying to get paid
Lazy workers who just collect a pay check
well dont hire junkies
And only requires an 8th grade education?????? Your lifting a huge piece of roadway vertically in the air! Maybe we should start requiring properly educated and trained people 🤔
Not really just check for pedestrians and push a button. It doesn’t really need a college education or doctorate’s degree to operate a $31,000 per year job.
@@justanamateur1682 You really moved the goal post there with “college education” and “doctorate degree” from “only requires an eighth grade education”
@@justanamateur1682 doesn't mean only having an 8th grade education should be enough to operate that. If your comfortable with someone who barely learned math operating this peice of machinery then move by one and cross it every single day please 👍. I don't even trust the people making my mcdoubles with there high school education 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Reno420alex Barely learned math? Where did you go to school? I was working on Algebra II in 8th grade & would've been further ahead had I not been goofin off.
@@curiouser-and-curiouser yeah im sure you would have become a rocket scientist huh? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 BTW school isn't the same every where dummy even in America
Why is it always a death that needs to occur before changes are made so that no one else dies???
$15 and only 8th grade education....absolutely ridiculous, they should atleast be requiring a high-school diploma and a college degree with a salary of $22 per hr.... the cheap always comes out expensive, especially at the cost of a life.
get what you pay for too. Hire someone at the same payscale and requirements of most fast food places and thats the quality of work you'll get in return.
I have worked for people who had a college degree. Most of them were stupid, with no common sense.
Exactly!
Why hasn’t there been “ concern” before now?? Shouldn’t have been letting this go on for literally years.
The Bridges go up way too fast
They need to also post times of beige opening and in different languages in bold letters and ad caution lights and a draw line tonot pull up to close to opening and a old sign that this bridge is a draw bridge and that needs to be in different languages so people can read and brail also for blind people and a automatic voice recording that repeated it self with warnings and traffic safety security with emergency radios or phones on them when the bridge is going to open security goes out to assist with traffic lineup
And stop hiring ignorant ppl of course
Instead of firing, he/she should've been jailed for a few months too.
Something that they are not mentioning is that after a certain amount of time some welfare recipients are required to get a job and the state of Florida helps them get it. That doesn't have anything to do with the requirements for being a bridge tender not requiring certification and regular testing or the lack of cameras monitoring their behavior but I have no doubt some of those doing that job got it by help from the state.
Can only imagine what was going through that poor lady's head
How are people being hired? Quotas or merit? More need to be held legally accountable.
Shut the bridge down ahead of time giving everyone time out the heck is wrong with you this is 2022 seriously
Do you know what frost bite is , I’ve encountered horrible things people throwing stuff at me while driving down the road as I have picked up trash in the neighborhood . Makes me sad that person has no regard for my life or safety .
There’s your first problem… Bridge tenders only required up to an eighth grade education.
Bridge go up, bridge go down. Don't kill people. Does it take a diploma?
I’m sure a sane mind and eyeballs are enough to be a bridge tender
Ya don't really need a college education to sit there and press a button to make the bridge go up and down. There's probably just no one that wants the job, so they take anybody that applies, then stuff like this ends up happening.
I'm sure a reasonably smart household pet could operate a bridge safely. Grade achievement has nothing to do with it - it's common sense and responsibility. Think even Harvard or Yale could provide those?
@@hugh007 my comment stems from the doubt that these people have the intelligence and the acuity to always be accurate in this important job. I’m not saying it has any thing to do with a high school diploma but certainly if someone has a discipline to finish high school and has any aspirations of having a long-term place at this job then there oughta be training to find out if they possess the skills to do the job. I haven’t heard from anyone if there’s training or not besides maybe a short orientation I may be watching a video. It can be boring sitting there all the time and nothing ever happens and then tragedy happens and the operators of the bridge have to be ready… kind of like an emergency dispatcher. After all there is a lot more is at stake than whether or not a ship that needs the clearance gets through.
There's no cameras or sensors?
Why dows it not have an alarm that sounds loudly when the bridge is gonna open? Very scary
but why would you stop your car on the moving section of the bridge when safety is 20 feet ahead
They need to up the reguirements these are people's lives here and the city wants to be cheap on hiring people to work wait untill this happens to acity workers family member then they might do something and spend a little money to beef up reguirements on working synch a dangerous pice of eguipment they should also have monthly training and safety procedures and first aid training and disater relief training if not monthly at least every 6months and the training should be mandatory for all personnel so if someone has to cover a shift then they know what to do their also should be loud alarms warning that the bridge is going up just like on train tracks and they should explore the safety mechanical system of the garage door opener if something gets in the way it stops her agaiñthe city needs to be held acountable just like the worker on that shift they were just doing their job and now they will spend along time in prison when the city should have had these safety things ahead of time what good does it do to put the person in prison for this accident when their was never proper traing it is the city that should be in prison not the worker for a accident that he didn't have any traing in what to do
Seriously. Eighth grade education should be enough to look and see if there’s somebody standing on the bridge. That is not a degree program. There might be some integrity involved, but that’s not about education. Let’s not pretend that it is. The people who go ahead and open up a bridge with somebody on it need to be held accountable because it is actually their fault and a choice that they made.
@STEVE VENTO : i’m entirely with your first couple of sentences. After that, we’re speculating derogatively about education of people hired. That part is not fair. You’re trying to make this about Education. It’s not about that. You don’t have to have much education to decide whether or not to kill somebody because you can. And we can’t be saying that all people who are hired to operate bridges with moving parts can be described as you insinuate.Otherwise, everybody who was hired to do such a job would be killing people in their operations of the moving parts of the bridges.
But I absolutely agree with the first idea that you offered. I think it’s entirely about that. You don’t have to be a nuclear physicist or even a high school graduate to decide not to kill somebody. That’s an ethical and criminal choice.
When you try to make it about minimal educational standards or other descriptors used for hiring criteria, you take the responsibility of the criminal who chose to kill another human being, and try to put that on the hiring entity. That’s just not right. The only way there’s a hiring entity, even if it’s a government body, there’s responsibility for that is if they fail to do a criminal record check, or if they think there’s a reason to doubt the person’s sanity and don’t have it checked. Outside of those circumstances, it’s entirely on the person who makes the choice.
At risk of belabouring the point, I’ll put it this way: if you hire somebody to fix your car, and that person takes your car and chooses to run into a street festival full of people, killing many and maiming more, what would that have to do with you and your hiring practices? That employees or contractors decision to do something so devastating would have absolutely nothing to do with whether he had advanced factory training on your make and model of car versus a couple of basic auto shop courses from his/her high school days. Unless you knew that person had terrible antisocial tendencies, or was on the cusp of a catastrophic nervous breakdown, How would that be your fault? The employee who makes the choice is the one who is responsible.
Because even if you think about yourself as a person in middle school, which was your suggestion of an educational level used for hiring practices, at that point you didn’t kill anybody. It had nothing to do with your education. You probably didn’t even consider harming another human being. And even if somebody to get on your nerves or bully you, you may have considered making a swing, but not killing them. But chances are you didn’t, because you have appropriate social impulse control. Even with only that much education. It was about your choice and value system.
They need two People. One on each side. That way if I hit the button to raise the bridge without checking to clear it. The other person can check and don't hit the button because he sees something I didn't catch. Like a person on the bridge or even a car still going across.
I was cool with buddy in the suit till he made that pun. 😂😑 Really bro
Why do drawbridges not have sensors on them like roller coasters? You would think in the day and time where restaurants may only exist on Uber eats or DoorDash that technology could help avoid these sorts of things.
What happened to that woman is a tragedy but that lawyer really reads as a scumbag.
I would like to know what kept the driver of the car to stop on the bridge without clearing the end. I didn’t see any restrictions also the bicyclists was near enough to step off. Why were these questions not asked instead of trying to make a sensation of the facts
Jesus Christ, it's the easiest job ever and they get paid good money, wtf?
Fire them all get A.I to the job people are inefficient
They do the same thing in prison. The guards are more evil than the inmates. 8th grade education explains it all.
Should of stay in the car 🤦🏻♂️
Did the woman fall through when checking the damage to the rear of her car? And, how did the car get through when the bridge was signaling to go up - was there a gate that goes down and she still drove past it? Or was there no gate? Ultimately, the bridge tender is responsible because her actions led directly to the old woman's death. If she did her job, then the old woman would still be alive.
That said, the old woman also deserves some blame for her series of stupid actions (i.e. not paying attention to the draw bridge warnings that it's going up, stopping the car right at the gap, and at least in hindsight for us - falling through the gap because she again wasn't paying attention to her surroundings when there was obviously no ground there). One could say that seniors may have a hard time understanding what's going on, processing their surroundings, etc. - in which case then, those seniors shouldn't be driving in the first place if their reasoning skills are that poor.
Yes, that should have been being done, garage doors have been doing that for well over a decade. There's way too much technology and advancements for stuff like this to happen
A lot of places have that in higher income places , and still trash gets thrown around , make them take their trash to the dumpster, they should stop that . Spoiled . Not me . I take my own to the dumpster . It got so out of hand . It just sits in the hallways or street. It’s awful. My hands hurt much . Think about what I’m saying .
I’d rather have some sensors and electronics in charge.
Once again, why do we still use draw bridges
Why ask the same idiotic question once again?
@@Momusinterra because i once again didn’t get an answer? Lol
Why’d he stop though? Looks like he planned that so he can sue.
How effing hard is it to look at the bridgeway before opening it? I guess common sense and care isn't common🤷 ?
Idk how well someone can see if they are asleep. Lol
I’m not a personal valet trash pick up that’s how I’ve been treated.
They just need more people on a faster turn over? More stimulating and more interaction and more focus. ?? Just a thought.
Just post a large sign stating "cross at your own risk. Bridge tender may be a sleepyass diversity hire."
That would be a cool job too
It would be great if the state legislature could do something other than the dumb-assery such as the don't say gay legislation they've been up to lately.
@2:25 HOW IS THAT THE BRIDGE TENDER’S FAULT???
The bridge was opened while a car was on the span.
They let the bridge open when someone was on it. This isn’t rocket science.
@@michaelcossey8474 The car stopped on the bridge hoping for an insurance claim. It could’ve stopped a couple feet away from the bridge. The driver has a lower IQ than most 8th graders.
It's seems a tablet with a simple app that measures if someone is awake would help. Self driving cars have them so why not bridges or other jobs where sleeping is a problem? I am sure it exists and possibly auto reports to another email or such. Tesla could share their technology for good publicity.
I thought they only opened at rush hr, lunch time, and rush hr for lame fail boats?
Their supposed to have atleast a GED or High School Diploma you have to be aware at all times with these types of jobs
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Why did she stop there? Wanted some money for her family. Get real. Like if they hear the belly etc why are they crossing. She sped up n then stop like come on. The cyclist was booking it. B.s smh
Sorry coach potatoes u r not getting pay today..hahahehe.
Its the drivers fault they carried on when the warning signs was there no sympathy 🤷🏾♀️
LMAO both the car and bicyclists where just trying to get payed. They had more than enough time to get off 😂😂 and as for the 79 year old, she literally stops at the edge and waits even after hearing the warning. Yeah they should check before drawing the bridge but she was most definitely trying to see if they would notice her. She committed suicide.
The car who stopped on the bridge deserved that
We are humans we make mistakes
Biden would say she is the most qualified person for the job
Really? This is the best u can do, typing such drivel? This is not about politics or who is the president!
@@lenitaa7938 triggered
there’s always one mf talking about politics 🗿
Racist. I guess this is your idiotic way of comparing her to the highly accomplished and competent Ketanji Brown Jackson while also implying all black women are underqualified. Go play in traffic.
Stop embarrassing yourself and your community.