Check this video out how we made the Model Y ride even softer without breaking the bank Model Y Tein EnduraPro Plus review from Rish and Raj th-cam.com/video/bMWUhm-sUAM/w-d-xo.html
@@Surfinsurance yes, range and daily comfort are more important to me than the occasional need or want for speed. But that’s just me. I know and respect others who feel differently.
Excellent review. I like how you thought it was the same then changed your mind after getting into the LR. Also great job on making a fair review with the same wheel/tires.
I had a 2023 LR and now a 2024 YP. Also drove a 2023 YP back to back with the LR last year to compare. For me, the YP feels no less comfy, yet WAY better body control and overall feel. Even the braking and steering feel better. It’s just … “more like a good BMW” I would say. So that, along with the power and superior looks, easily sealed the deal. (I also really like the new stealth grey color!!)
I noticed the MY makes a lot of rear motor noise at higher speeds (45+ mph). Surprising at price range. Other EVs for less have been silent in my experience
Our recent video shows they updated the performance shocks as well in late 2022 onward. As for the long range it is smoother but we were able to get it even better with the aftermarket Tein shocks.
My 2022 MYLR has some problems with the suspension, it makes much noise and wobble on an uneven road but it does not meet the "Tesla standard" to get a new one to repair, here is what the Tesla staff said: you could pay for 2023 softer suspension but it will affect my warranty. I am still struggling is it worth getting an OEM suspension in this situation.
Just spoke with a Tesla salesperson who was aware of your video. He said Freemont has only been putting confort suspensions on performance models since January, and yours was most likely an early Dec 2022 build? If it's true that you pulled the shocks out and checked part numbers, would your guess be that Tesla did indeed change the model Y performance's suspension, but that the 'comfort' goal was just a complete fail? Any idea if there has at least been any suspension improvement at all over older versions of the car? I'm shocked and disappointed by the findings of your video!
I cannot make assumptions but can only show you the results. There is a difference in comfort between early 2022 and our 2023 model. We do have the most updated “comfort” spec on our Y but it still differs from the Long Range 2023 Y.
I am confused - was this a comparison of suspension between two models or between two years/versions of the same model? - was it a 22 performance? - had the suspension been updated since you got it?…
Did you happen to record efficiency during these tests? I'm wondering how the efficiency of the performance with the 19" wheels compares to the efficiency of the LR.
Thank you for the video! I placed an order for the 2023MYLR. If you could go back, would you buy (MYLR or MYLP)? Side note: I’m not worried about the different wheels because I have connects and could get some at a good price, but I know other things are different. Would those difference be worth the $4k?
The only difference would be the wheels, which you can always sell for about 3K, and then getting track mode/colored calipers, as well as lowered stiffer suspension. With that you can decide if it's worth it. That's a really tough one to answer honestly.
it will raise it about 15mm. Totally not worth it. Just buy these shocks from us. Better than 2023 LR and save you some money. zevcentric.com/collections/model-y-coil-suspension/products/tein-endurapro-plus-adjustable-shocks-model-y?variant=43706983448821
I have trouble deciding between MYRL 23 and MYP 23. I like the look’s of the MYP better, and the acceleration is really fun. But I value ride comfort higher with the MYLR still being really fast. There is a lot of MYP-owners saying that the difference between ride comfort in MYP vs MYLR is marginal for the 2023-version. But this video shows that MYLR 23 probably would be a better daily driver with the more comfortable suspension? The price difference does not matter to me, I just want to do the right decision..! 😅
You can do like I did and get a MYLR and swap out the stock wheel covers for the EVBASE ones that look similar to the MYP. That way you get the benefits of the MYLR suspension with a look that similar to MYP.
it absolutely is but totally not worth it. You're going to find more comfort at a lower cost with more versatility getting these zevcentric.com/collections/model-y-coil-suspension/products/tein-endurapro-plus-adjustable-shocks-model-3-y?variant=43332869751029
Thanks Dennis. It’s because of you and @teslaraj that we got this Y with the $7500 off albeit I wish I waited 2 more weeks LOL. #teslalife #fomo_or_bust
Bought my Tesla Y LR on december 2022, on the car's Infotament screen, says the model is 2023, also the car was made in Germany. What are the odds my LR model have the new suspensions ? :)
Both LR and Performance had a revision. Stay tuned for our next video where we compare the different revisions and offer an even greater replacement to improve ride comfort without breaking the bank.
@zevcentric Do you have more info on how the ride heights were the same with the stock suspensions? Based on the Tesla website the Performance should be lower by 0.6 inches.
@@zevcentric Dammit, I thought the only difference was the tire wall size that made the ride stiffer. I may have to change my order and get LR with Boost package.
@@zevcentric I am selling my 22GT with 26k miles on it this week. I got it new in 21. Love the car, but it has tons of hardware/software/system glitches and issues for a >$100k car. I’m here looking for suspension solution before buying a modelY.
Two months ago I drove the Berlin model y LR with ‘softer’ suspension. I noticed a slightly better, but still a firm/ poor suspension. Still waiting for Tesla to add an adjustable coilovers suspension like all the German cars have. Or ‘legalize’ the aftermarket suspensions, so it won’t affect our warranty.
@@zevcentricthis is a wrong thought, they are not illegal in Europe. I installed my TEIN’s this week. After market suspensions already exist since decades on any car in France. What is important is to have an OE type from the manufacturer and not changing car height.
@@brunolarivain8793 i take it you are responding to the original commentor ans not us. We are unaware of the legalities but sounds like he is a German resident and implied he couldnt use it.
@@zevcentric yes indeed, just reassuring everyone that the TEINS after market suspensions are not illegal in Europe and distributed here. The issue is only at commercial level. Most of the time, repair garages will refuse to install them because they can only install parts they would sell (for warranty also). And TEIN resellers do not do installs (as opposed to you guys).
Thanks for this video. I like softer a softer suspension and was truly on the fence between MYLR vs MYP and this made the decision clear.
Check this video out how we made the Model Y ride even softer without breaking the bank
Model Y Tein EnduraPro Plus review from Rish and Raj
th-cam.com/video/bMWUhm-sUAM/w-d-xo.html
Did you try out 2023 versions of both MYLR and MYP?
@@Surfinsurance yes
Would you still have chosen the MYLR if MYP had the same price?
@@Surfinsurance yes, range and daily comfort are more important to me than the occasional need or want for speed. But that’s just me. I know and respect others who feel differently.
Woah! That’s incredible can’t wait to see what you guys do next!
Suggestion - no one cares who raj or Richie is. Just say if it's the LR or P. We can't remember who has what
We put that in the title to help you know which person owns what trim and am pretty sure the trims are reiterated in the video as well.
Excellent review. I like how you thought it was the same then changed your mind after getting into the LR. Also great job on making a fair review with the same wheel/tires.
Thank you so much!!!!
I had a 2023 LR and now a 2024 YP. Also drove a 2023 YP back to back with the LR last year to compare.
For me, the YP feels no less comfy, yet WAY better body control and overall feel. Even the braking and steering feel better. It’s just … “more like a good BMW” I would say.
So that, along with the power and superior looks, easily sealed the deal.
(I also really like the new stealth grey color!!)
@ZEVcentric USA CAn I ask for the Long Range did you notice any wind noise and a high pitch whining sound while driving?
I noticed the MY makes a lot of rear motor noise at higher speeds (45+ mph). Surprising at price range. Other EVs for less have been silent in my experience
The newer 3/Y are more quiet than the older ones actually. This is normal for the 3 and Y. We just turn up the radio.
Thanks for this video. Which roof sunshade are you using?
Yes, I agree my 2022 model y Performance is much stiffer compared to my 2023 model y long range is very smooth.
Our recent video shows they updated the performance shocks as well in late 2022 onward. As for the long range it is smoother but we were able to get it even better with the aftermarket Tein shocks.
Guesss thei question that no one can answer, will the Juniper have this suspension or better?
Correct, nobody knows.
I wish the ride on the MYP wasn’t so terrible. I’ve listed it for sale after 60 days of ownership 😢.
We got a inexpensive option to fix the ride quality check this video out th-cam.com/video/bMWUhm-sUAM/w-d-xo.html
Buy these and keep your Y. zevcentric.com/products/tein-endurapro-plus-adjustable-shocks-model-3-y
I'll swap you @joshuamoore2820 I have a 23 mylr7 in SoCal I took August 1st
Yes. I was impressed with the new one
My 2022 MYLR has some problems with the suspension, it makes much noise and wobble on an uneven road but it does not meet the "Tesla standard" to get a new one to repair, here is what the Tesla staff said: you could pay for 2023 softer suspension but it will affect my warranty. I am still struggling is it worth getting an OEM suspension in this situation.
2023 OEM wont be as comfy as the shocks we provide.
Just spoke with a Tesla salesperson who was aware of your video. He said Freemont has only been putting confort suspensions on performance models since January, and yours was most likely an early Dec 2022 build? If it's true that you pulled the shocks out and checked part numbers, would your guess be that Tesla did indeed change the model Y performance's suspension, but that the 'comfort' goal was just a complete fail? Any idea if there has at least been any suspension improvement at all over older versions of the car? I'm shocked and disappointed by the findings of your video!
I cannot make assumptions but can only show you the results. There is a difference in comfort between early 2022 and our 2023 model. We do have the most updated “comfort” spec on our Y but it still differs from the Long Range 2023 Y.
Check out this video th-cam.com/video/Lmq648g1KYg/w-d-xo.html
I am confused - was this a comparison of suspension between two models or between two years/versions of the same model? - was it a 22 performance? - had the suspension been updated since you got it?…
Did you read the description? We compare a 2023 MYP updated suspension to 2023 MY LR updated suspension.
Did you happen to record efficiency during these tests? I'm wondering how the efficiency of the performance with the 19" wheels compares to the efficiency of the LR.
If both are in chill mode and both have the same wheels and tires they should be equally efficient. Thats the easiest way to test this.
Thank you for the video!
I placed an order for the 2023MYLR. If you could go back, would you buy (MYLR or MYLP)?
Side note: I’m not worried about the different wheels because I have connects and could get some at a good price, but I know other things are different. Would those difference be worth the $4k?
The only difference would be the wheels, which you can always sell for about 3K, and then getting track mode/colored calipers, as well as lowered stiffer suspension. With that you can decide if it's worth it. That's a really tough one to answer honestly.
Is it possible to do a ride height comparison? i have the 2020 performance and i'm dying to switch out to the revise LR suspension
it will raise it about 15mm. Totally not worth it. Just buy these shocks from us. Better than 2023 LR and save you some money. zevcentric.com/collections/model-y-coil-suspension/products/tein-endurapro-plus-adjustable-shocks-model-y?variant=43706983448821
Got the 2023 Modely Y Performance and it has the Brembo brakes in the back. It's from Giga Berlin tho.
I have trouble deciding between MYRL 23 and MYP 23. I like the look’s of the MYP better, and the acceleration is really fun. But I value ride comfort higher with the MYLR still being really fast. There is a lot of MYP-owners saying that the difference between ride comfort in MYP vs MYLR is marginal for the 2023-version. But this video shows that MYLR 23 probably would be a better daily driver with the more comfortable suspension? The price difference does not matter to me, I just want to do the right decision..! 😅
Then get a P and upgrade the shocks. Where are you located?
@@zevcentric I am located in Sweden 😅 It will be a company car so I can’t do any changes to the car…
You can do like I did and get a MYLR and swap out the stock wheel covers for the EVBASE ones that look similar to the MYP. That way you get the benefits of the MYLR suspension with a look that similar to MYP.
@@sbrown02 great idea! And still keep the extra range 😎
Do you know if the 2021 suspension is swappable with the 2023 ‘comfort’ suspension ?
it absolutely is but totally not worth it. You're going to find more comfort at a lower cost with more versatility getting these zevcentric.com/collections/model-y-coil-suspension/products/tein-endurapro-plus-adjustable-shocks-model-3-y?variant=43332869751029
GREAT VIDEO 📈
Thanks Dennis. It’s because of you and @teslaraj that we got this Y with the $7500 off albeit I wish I waited 2 more weeks LOL. #teslalife #fomo_or_bust
@@zevcentric hahaha love it!
Bought my Tesla Y LR on december 2022, on the car's Infotament screen, says the model is 2023, also the car was made in Germany. What are the odds my LR model have the new suspensions ? :)
I don’t know honestly. I am so sorry. I only know about USA builds.
Yes, MY23 from Berlin has comfort suspension
So the new MYP had a new suspension? Or only the long range had the suspension upgrade?
Both LR and Performance had a revision. Stay tuned for our next video where we compare the different revisions and offer an even greater replacement to improve ride comfort without breaking the bank.
A question on ride height, in the video you mentioned that it was the same? Was that measured both front and back?
Yes but we have seen some current Y's where the P is still about 15mm lower than the Long Range.
@@zevcentric Thank you. Do you know if the P in those cases are lower in both the front and the back?
Yes front and rear is both lower.@@Surfinsurance
@zevcentric Do you have more info on how the ride heights were the same with the stock suspensions? Based on the Tesla website the Performance should be lower by 0.6 inches.
@@anthonyli4879it's interesting because that is true on most performance Y's. They are 415mm hub to fender and LR should be 430mm.
You show the rear springs.
Did you change the front springs too?
All oem.
@@zevcentric
oem ??
@@robwanless7551 we are comparing 2 completely factory vehicles here.
@@zevcentric ok
Thanks
@@zevcentric enjoyed the video. Good info. Thank you.
Didn’t they upgrade the suspension for the 2023 performance too?
Yes. Please check out the video after this where we test the P shocks outside of the Y.
how much of a difference did you notice going from 21" uberturbine to 19" Gemini wheels?
It definitely gets smoother and range improves but the ride still sucks.
@@zevcentric Dammit, I thought the only difference was the tire wall size that made the ride stiffer. I may have to change my order and get LR with Boost package.
hated the damn music!
Voice over music was very difficult to hear
Nice
Brand new Y performance may be better.
Simple don’t buy a Tesla buy an Audi instead I don’t know why people put up with the terrible ride quality. They have a lot to improve on.
We have an E-Tron also and it has its own share of issues.
@@zevcentric I am selling my 22GT with 26k miles on it this week. I got it new in 21. Love the car, but it has tons of hardware/software/system glitches and issues for a >$100k car. I’m here looking for suspension solution before buying a modelY.
@@patrickswagner1007send me an email with your location and will see how to help. Have you driven a Y yet?
@@patrickswagner1007 zevcentric@gmail.com
@@zevcentric thank you. I test drove LR ydsy. Plan to test drive a Prf and buy in 2-3 months.
Can easily see your body jitter in your MYP.
Yup it’s pretty bad. We just put some tein shocks and H&R lowering springs on the P today. It’s amazing. New video coming soon.
Two months ago I drove the Berlin model y LR with ‘softer’ suspension. I noticed a slightly better, but still a firm/ poor suspension. Still waiting for Tesla to add an adjustable coilovers suspension like all the German cars have. Or ‘legalize’ the aftermarket suspensions, so it won’t affect our warranty.
It is so unfortunate that it's not legal over there. Is that due to TUV standard? I agree that the suspension is better but still not good enough.
@@zevcentricthis is a wrong thought, they are not illegal in Europe. I installed my TEIN’s this week. After market suspensions already exist since decades on any car in France. What is important is to have an OE type from the manufacturer and not changing car height.
By the way the change from my MY Berlin june 2023 is amazing. I started with 8F/8R but this is way to firm ; 10F/12R is perfect and the way to go !
@@brunolarivain8793 i take it you are responding to the original commentor ans not us. We are unaware of the legalities but sounds like he is a German resident and implied he couldnt use it.
@@zevcentric yes indeed, just reassuring everyone that the TEINS after market suspensions are not illegal in Europe and distributed here. The issue is only at commercial level. Most of the time, repair garages will refuse to install them because they can only install parts they would sell (for warranty also). And TEIN resellers do not do installs (as opposed to you guys).