I bought an Inflatable Paint booth for the workshop, it barely fits | Painting Parts for the D17
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Evan, I think it was Uncle Tony's Garage that taught me that cast iron is porous by nature, and it absorbs oils and grease that sits on it. When painting cast iron housings in particular, it is a good idea to take them to bare metal, and then heat the metal with a mapp torch to evaporate any trapped oils, etc. I hope this helps!
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Lacquer thinner or acetone for your wipe down. Mineral spirits leaves an oily residue. Put some on your finger and let it dry and you'll be able feel it.
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My wife is an artist and she confirmed that mineral spirits leave a residue so it would be better to just use a good degreaser and wipe the metal dry.
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oops .... love that you put things out warts and all.
glue some hooks on the top of the paint booth and hang the sides and top from the ceiling so it just hand there between jobs
I see what you are saying but for it to maintain its shape it has to have the blower going all the time.
You could try a needle gun to remove the paint, it is a air tool with a cluster of metal needles that when placed on the surface reacts like a jack hammer.
Cheers John.
I enjoy your videos. You make mistakes. You learn. You move on. And the things that you try is cool. The pond Duck Weed problems and how you try thing to fix it is interesting. I watch, Just A Few Acers Farm. And seems to know everything. You are learning and having fun. Keep it up and listen to listeners. But don't take their bad comments to heart. Keep making mistakes and learning. Great channel.
As reading many of the comments on preparation before painting .
There's four things that can affect a great paint job . Dust in the air can also be a little bit of a problem , warmth of the metal and the air temperature before , during and after until completely dry . Just using a small hand held torch to completely dry after wiping down with reducer . Just real quick passing of the torch so locking , flat washers , bolts heads and nuts all get completely dry of any oil as well .
Moisture levels can also be a problem during and after painting .
Strip the paint with nitromors, then wash down with acetone, repaint but always with the metal warm, Bakes on application, once on years on!!!
You will get it right Hoss! Your work is top notch. Keep your head up Evan, your work speaks for itself.
That is frustrating. Keep at it.
when using automotive paint always clean with lacquer thinner or a prep cleaner, lacquer thinner is also grate to clean your gun so you only need one product.
Lots of work good luck, Tent paint booth is a good idea
Mineral spirits leaver a slight oily film. Lacquer thinner completely evaporates. The lacquer thinner also should be compatible with the paint.
Build a rolling rack like a hanger for clothes then you can hang the smaller parts and it will allow you to get a better job quicker. The large frame may have been cold which will cause adhesion issues you can get lower temperature compatible primers and paint at industrial coating supply but it costs more . I think the lacquer thinner or denatured alcohol is a better choice than mineral spirits especially if it’s cold , prepaint panel wipe is what commercial painters use on lint free rags.
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There is a kind a paint remover that separate the paint like magic, get it.
Forget the paint booth. Use a tarp on the floor. As for the tractor, If you strip it, maybe a heat gun would help. I would first try cleaning a small part and then over spray with the new paint to see if I could get a durable overcoat that bonds well.
Mistakes made - much learned .
Boomer the paint isn't sticking. We always learn from our mistakes. Really enjoy your videos.
I agree with the "don't use mineral spirits" fellow as I always feel it leaves its own somewhat oily film behind. I have always done my final cleaning with lacquer thinner or acetone. I have done old farm engine and machinery restoration for over 30 years now and never had an issue with paint lifting. I too prep everything by sandblasting as well with leaves a good toothy surface to mechanically grab the paint and on many of those I only cleaned the freshly sandblasted surface with compressed air to remove and residual dust.
Clean with lacquer thinner works way better. Doesn’t leave any petroleum on the surface
Thank you Evan and Rebekah! I really enjoy your channel !
Go to Harbor Freight and get a bead blaster to remove the paint off the axle.
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Mineral spirits leaves an oil residue when dry. I ve been in paint industries for 25 years. Lacquer thinner or acetone will work something that has a high flash point. Also simple green is a great cleaner.
to clean a surface you need to use something that is not made from an oil product. most mineral spirits are oil-based products. what I have used is vinegar and it works great and is not as corrosive as lacer thinner
Hi. You can also use acetone to wipe down your parts before spray.
To degrease metal you could use Acetone that really works well and it is used in the metal industry.
Just wet the floor a little bit paint a land on the border. And then he mopped and cleaned it up
you should listen more to Pete , he is the man when it comes to restoring tractors. also you and Rebecca have a new bouncy house for you and the farm animals if the paint booth thing dont work out ! BTW next time you have $500 you want to throw away , I will gladly give you my full name and address so you can send me a check !
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I was taught to use Prepsol because it leaves no residue behind... Mineral spirits leaves something on the metal like an oil or something. Was told this by a friend who had experience and by the paint dealer. I am no expert myself. Wishing you the best as always.
I agree the mineral spirits is the problem, it dorsnt evaporate fully and leaves some oil
Hang the parts and paint all sides at once. Better finish and tougher paint job.
Looking like you have your work ahead of you take a wirebrush to it paintbooth is cool
I suggest buying or renting a needle gun to remove paint from large surfaces!
Etch primer then primer \under coat then top coat
I have done a lot of painting professionally dealing with Awl Grip paint and Emron paint. When wiping down the surface if bare metal you should use acetone or lacquer thinner. Primer you should spray on a two part epoxy primer. Sand all surfaces with 180 grit sand paper unless you are painting a show car, for equipment 180 grit is fine. Before you paint anything you should use a tack cloth not rags the rag will leave lint behind.
maybe find a sand blaster for the main part of the tractor
Paints that thin with mineral spirits are fine to be wiped down prior to painting. I've always been told to clean with the same thing you think the paint with. Some reducers are way too expensive for that; so acetone is usually my go to because it does not leave a residue. Keep in mind that you can wipe your parts with anything, so long as the final cleanup is with the right stuff and all the residual is gone.
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i would use acetone to clean with! it works great and drys fast!
I use acetone or mek (methyl ethyl ketone) as degreasers. As others have typed, mineral spirits is close to diesel fuel, e.g. oily.
Your certainly an honest guy, thanks for the upfront truth on what happened. I would like to think that most folks would be as upfront and honest as you, but sadly that's not always the case. Lessons learned from those types of experiences are a valuable tool to gain knowledge from. Good luck with the stripping and re-prime and paint, I'm sure you'll get it fixed. Thanks and have a good weekend!
Before you start stripping the paint on the rear end of your tractor… don’t forget to thoroughly cover your gas heaters. They are very sensitive to dust particles. Good luck Evan 👍😃.
The more reason not to strip and flake it off. Seal it with your new blend of paint.
I would use a needle scaler to remove the paint it would make it quicker
Try a needle peaner to remove the old paint !
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Hmm, lots of comments about prepping . I am not buying this being related to mineral spirits. Remember, M.S. are used by nearly every mfg to thin the paint. I think you had some kind of adhesion problem to the actual frame. You did mention the primer was old. I would look there first. Bottom line is that this is great vid to help all that paint. Nice job sharing the experience !
When you primer something, you MUST sand the primer before painting it, the paint will not adhere to unsanded primer
Try wax and grease remover from a store that sells auto paint and supplies (Napa etc.) as others have said, using mineral spirits is your main issue introducing an oily film.
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I’m not an expert Evan but I always used a painting degreaser and have always been pleased with the results.
I've got a friend that owns a body shop and I believe he almost always uses acetone and denatured alcohol to do his wipe down.
Check out Pacific Northwest Hillbilly. He goes over his parts with a torch to burn off any residual solvent.
This is not a criticism, just a guy that does similar things. I work at a dealership where we have a body shop. I restored a case 1394. The paint supplier recommended using imron because it's what the industrial paint shops use. Compared to the $100 a gallon that paint you are using I think it was $260. Plus the primer. With that, the amount of effort it takes to clean parts id recommend a professional paint product. My wife and I were mounting the loader mounts and it slipped and fell, put a hole in my driveway, and the paint was still intact. Just one guy to another advice. Good luck my friend and thank you for the videos. P.s. imron dry time is a longer so account for that, and I recommend wearing a tyvec suit or you will be orange
Back to the painting, due to the issues you are having I think you are correct the primer is the problem. You will need to remove all the paint that was applied. The best way to remove the paint would be paint remover and a high pressure sprayer. I know this is a real pain but it would be the quickest way to handle the problem. One thing to note you will need to dry the cast iron after you finish stripping so you will not have rust forming on the surface of the cast iron. Warm air / heat gun will do the trick. If you do get surface film of rust here is a treatment for that you can buy at most body shop paint facility’s.
Duck tape to patch the hole
You might want to contact Pete with Just a Few Acres Farm. He does a lot of farm tractor restorations.
Ya might want to turn the sound on and watch the video
Sorry about your paint problems. Great to learn some issues to watch out for. Nice to see a married couple working together even in the paint booth. A great demonstration of commitment to each other. Thank you for a great video!
Another product to use is acetone and or lacquer. When I moved to our new place in the building there was a make shift paint booth which i took down. Use a wire wheel on an angle grinder to help remove the paint and if it doesn't all come off, leave it and wipe it down. Mineral spirits has oils in it.
I remember when I was a younger man years ago I was alot like you, always rushing to finish a job, I finally learned to take my time and get it right the first time, other than that you do great work on pretty much everything you do, great video
I hope you figure it out. Nothing more real than showing your mistakes to the whole world on youtube. I appreciate your honest approach to showing the good and the bad. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out. Take Care!
Hang in there, your skills level keeps going up. I'd work along side you any day, you have a teachable spirit and good work ethic.
Cast iron needs to be around 70 degrees for it be painted, and the paint stick to the metal
Evan, I would just wipe down the rear end of that tractor with "Naker Lacquer" as we called it, and blow some new proper paint on her. That will work as the new paint dries it will bond and seal. It is a Allis Chambers and not a Shelby 500 Mustang going to Barrett Jackson for auction. A Good video. And looking forward to more. I thank you for sharing with us.
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Doing everything twice is the bane of the hobby rebuilder. Buck up, do not be disappointed, glove up and fix her.
you can also use acetone or denatured alcohol. mineral spirits leaves an oily film.
Evan your lucks as bad as mine but thats the way we learn. You can try a pneumatic needle gun to strip the paint if its just popping off. It'll work especially good for the tight places. Hope this helps. 👍🇺🇸
Yes, spirits for oil based paint but you should be able to get a special prep agent for epoxy. Thinners is for laquer but they havent made that for about 50 years. The worst thing I ever did was clean rust with phosphoric acid and not rinse and dry it properly. The paint NEVER dried.
I'd try a wire wheel to strip the paint.
Use a needle scaler to remove the paint. It’s will come right off.
Ouch! That bit you good! Live and learn, great video!
You created a monster
Remember the tractor at all embedded in the metal mineral spirits activate that all in the middle it does not clean. And remember primer and paint does not adhere to oil. An example: is to have something painted with all base paint and then fly to go over top of it with water base pain. It is good if you want a crackle. Then you would have to put clear on it so I had to stay on the wall.
Other than the noise that thing looks really handy. I'd be tempted to rig up some kind of extension so you don't have to listen to that fan whine the whole time you are working. A few bucks for some dryer vent or something like that would be money well spent for my sanity.
I noticed when you deflated it, it again fell on your sharp metal pieces on the side. Ouch!
Oh my gosh! A paint booth for an old tractor 🚜. Best of luck to you guys!!!
Break out the air blaster !
You are doing to have SUCH a beautiful AC when you are done! I cannot wait to see you doing this! Great job on deciphering what might have gone wrong, keep on keeping on! We all learn!
Nice temp booth. But you better store that thing where mice cannot get to it.
Hey man, ya know what? I was thinking that a pneumatic needle scaler used by welders might take that paint off of the tractor instead of a sandblaster. You'll need a really great air compressor though if you don't have one. Good luck.
Mineral spirits has oil in it whereas lacquer does not I have always used naphtha with the paint your using
Use wax and grease remover to clean before priming. Use 2 rags, one to wet it down and float contaminates up away from the substrate, the second one to wipe off to remove them. Acetone and lacquer thinner dry too quickly to do this. After cleaning, your go to primer should be an epoxy primer. Most have an induction time and a window of being "open " for topcoat. Also, last thing before spray is a tackrag for dust and particulates.
Good video, I always learn from my mistakes, and boy I made a lot of them. But that is the only way I learned. Have a great day.
no, it month for the finish drying and curing so check the labels on the paint you have
Mineral spirits is a petroleum based product. Petroleum is an oil. Lacquer thinner is a better way to go.
Thanks Evan
Great job looking great keep up the great work love your videos thank you
That's a bummer Evan. Hate to see that happen to you. May it all clean up really easy and be prepped again and painted and the paint harden and dry properly. Stay safe and hope you can have some fun with the redo. Fred.
My luck would be when I got half way thru painting a car or something we would have a power failure and the paint booth would collapse on top of me and the wet paint.
Good video. Still making progress.