Can you imagine what it was like in this world _before_ the first intentional copper smelt? I've heard it theorised that the first smelter/ blacksmith would probably have started their career by cleaning out the ash from "last night's" fire and noticing that there was a very hard, somewhat malleable and likely shiny (dull lustre) lump of "stuff" in the pile of ash. They probably then uttered the rallying cry of every scientist throughout the ages: "That's odd..."
@@t84t748748t6 More likely is that they used large stones to surround the fire (sometimes dropping them into the hot embers). Some would contain those precious metals.
As an experienced rock hunter: Always stay together, wear a hardhat when there is any chance of anything falling on your head (ALWAYS) and don't go into abandoned mines and start digging.
@@WowYaska Probably very badly, with a lot of zinc smoke. Hopefully they new to stay out of the direction the smoke was blowing. It's possible to die from just 1 period of smelting if you inhale it :/ They would make a furnace of clay and a probably a clay crucible.
@@WowYaska They would melt it, in a forge, pour off the dross, or knock it off with a rock hammer, then melt it again, knock it off, and again,and it gradually emerged purified. I have done this myself.
You say the copper age was a "brief period" from roughly 5000 to 3000 BC, that's about the same ammount of time as it is between the foundation of the Roman empire and now
This video would be even more interesting if you explored low tech methods to extract the copper or even if you discussed how you think they may have done it. They didn't have a science lab to make their copper tools. ;)
@sheldon pereira the thing with copper is that it turns green as it oxidize so finding red copper on the surface might not be possible. He could easily go into the plastic age and make a plastic camera.
"Alright guys, today I'm gonna show you how to make a muffin pan. It's completely unrelated to me being shouted at by my mom for ruining her muffin pan..."
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WOW! I've held plenty of pieces of Malachite and Azurite in my hands over the years... but to see them occurring in the field in the form of huge blue cliffs is quite amazing.
I am pretty sure they simply used much purer copper and/ or used other, most likely less efficent, extraction methods. Note that he says that he uses "the best way" and not the way of caveman.
Not sure if analytics tell you what parts were watched or what point they watched until but I hope you know that putting your ads at the beginning and splitting them into two parts doesn't stop me from skipping them.
Awesome! I love that you are willing to explore the entire process from beginning to end. We all take this stuff for granted, but you show us how hard it is to do on a diy scale. Thanks for sharing your journey of exploration with us.
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Not possible. Coal and diamonds are are made from the same base material but are created by two completely different processes. One cannot form the other.
He can asssume its pure enough for his purposes. He isnt looking for pure copper, he is looking for a workable metal. It just so happens copper is one of the easiest to extract.
X-ray florescence isn't exactly a highly accurate method of assay. It will give you roughly what's in a sample and a very rough approximation of the ratios, but it should never, ever be used to determine purity. At the very least you need a gas chromatograph for that. The X-ray guns are a quick and dirty SWAG.
Well the quickest way is to just compare densities. What else would be in there? Sulfur, lead, iron/carbon (steel), and whatever was in the original ore. Silicates? I don't know. It would probably be lighter than pure copper, but maybe not. Anyway, pretty easy to do a quick and dirty density test.
@@zombesn that would be like the purity tests the ancients knew to do. It would be a start. That's also why Andy pulled off the slag from the top when it was melted, though the pour looked like it might have had a chunk of impurities on the bottom.
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"Using accurate classical 9000BC techniques that our ancient human ancestors used to extract and purify the copper - one of the first metals our species ever purified.." ...uses a plastic bucket to collect the rocks, throws them into a 4x4 Off Road Jeep, drives home to electrically grind the ore into a pure sulphuric acid solution and connect to a battery and strain through coffee filters and sulphuric acid onto a metal muffin tray.. Uhhhmm... I spotted a mistake... Real accurate, except for the one anachronism where you are wearing a modern watch in this video. Otherwise I would have been totally bought it.. I was fooled up until then!
I dont really get where he said "this is how they did it 3-5k years ago" I know its a channel concept, but where does it say that?? I can only read in the description how he did it
@Please Complete All Fields He did certainly not use the same chemical process. Electricity hasn't been around that long, and while sulfuric acid was already discovered a very long time ago, it could not have been manufactured in the required amounts. Instead, they probably reduced the copper ores by repeatedly baking/smelting the ores in a furnace.
@@entcraft44 He did if briefly explain why the modern refining methods: The modern ore is too low grade to use ancient methods designed for high grade ore.
So you found a plane ticket to and from, a car rental, and accounted for your time at min wage and only spent 535 dollars? You needa share your travel agent with me.
American Engineering I don't think that this is a wasteful video. I don't think I'm the only person who finds these videos highly educational while still being interesting.
@@Ontarianmm I live in the middle of nowhere and yes.. they make themselves known ...very known.. Woke up at 2:43 am to hear what sounded like a messed up speaker.
Awesome. Really gives you a sense of just how far we've come as a civilization. Materials that used to take hundreds of man-hours to produce are just dirt cheap now and taken for granted.
Extracting and smelting metals is so fascinating. So many people today learn about the past and just hear about each "age" not knowing how it was done. The Periodic Table of Elements Coloring Book is mine. I wish I had known about this channel before I wrote it.
They didn't have the right kind of raw material. With thin coatings of mineral, leaching is the most economical and fastest way. Otherwise you have to chip off all the little bits of mineral one rock at a time vs. soaking and dissolving mineral while you can use the time for other activities.
yeah I've seen some east asian dudes make some bronze age smelting with clay ovens and hand powered blowers to keep the wooden fire going. And they got almost all the copper just by crushing the rocks and just dumped it in to the oven. about 24h, and they already had drops of copper at the bottom of the oven. Then they took that and placed those in these stone cups that they reheated until they had them smelted. Overall no more than two days of work. This coating shit no doubt catches all the copper, but it too the guy a week or two to get the copper out.
Was digging for some iron when broke some stone. To my surprise, the cave started to cave in around me. I rushed to put a torch on the ground and it saved me from the cave in. There was a lot of gravel.
Man, 5 minutes in and this video made me miss Ft. Irwin. I used to sleep in my snake and scorpion proof (ie zipped completely up) sleeping bag.. with my discman.. on rocks throughout those wadies. OPFOR was pretty fun back in the day.. I miss that place.. and time.. not the 145° quite as much.. but even that made one feel alive.. close to death.. but alive.. thanks for bringing back to the fore!
Geez, you have such beautiful ore rich places in US. I studied Geology in Germany and we never visited such places full of metal. I guess it is because in Germany the rock is empty, we got all we could get and they even started to reuse the waste rock from heaps to get all rest of usable metal out of it.
Sweden use to have a lot of copper mines, they once had their currency based on it. But I think in the USA they have hugh open pit mines in Arizona and places so there really is no need to play with these places. Just imagine the demand for copper shells in WWI, WWII.
Very inspiring. It's amazing that early man figured these things out in the first place. I thought copper and iron extraction was 'round about' until I read about Titanium. ... not only things like metals, but look up how chocolate came about and what a complex process it actually is. Who was smoking what when someone said " ... let's make some chocolate".?
Man it’s so cool! Your making it exactly like they used to make it! If they had all of those technologies you use like beakers, I love this series but I wish you did literally EVERYTHING from scratch, only using the tools you made yourself.
Some auto parts stores sell it. There's a half dozen ways to make it from scratch, and it's basically ancient tech. It's also a good idea to make pH paper beforehand. Grow some red cabbage, extract the pigment onto slips of paper and voila.
Burn sulphur in a vessel & bubble the evolved Sulphur Trioxide gas through water. It's a crude method & it generates a lot of heat. S8 + 12O2 > 8SO3^ SO3 + H2O > H2SO4
I want to see you try to make a foot powered lathe. (Treadle lathe) It’s supposed to be a pretty simple design and it would be cool to see you attempt that
I understand this video is already a few months old, but as someone with a Geology Bachelor there are somethings I could point out: *First and most important is safety, You guys let yourselves be separated in an area you were unfamiliar with for quite some time. Although with the dirt roads it`s unlikely you would have gotten lost, what if one of you was bit by a snake? You went into an old abandoned mine tunnel without protective gear, I`m not sure if you had anyone outside knowing your status if the mine had collapsed. You started picking rocks without eye protection, and also you should remember to never go under rock walls that seem to have a negative dip or hanging state. You grinded silicates and worked with acid without proper masks to protect your respiratory system. You may have had someone help you with this stuff, but for those who might see your video and think: Going out with a pickaxe to mine some rock we have no idea about seems like a good idea, it`s not. It`s dangerous. ** Green is not the only color of copper minerals, Blue as well as Brown (bronze) can be indicators. You may have noticed that the surface of those rocks seem to be more Green than their centers. That`s because when in contact with air and water, some minerals can be leached or washed out of rocks, and some other like copper bearing minerals stay. But what has happened here is that Other, less colour intensive copper minerals like Chalcopyrite have weathered into things like malachite. This weathering happens at surface and joints more than other places. *** I see a lot of people in the comments wondering how this was done in ancient times. Extraction of metals from rock has different ways, what was done in this video is usually referred to as Hydrometallurgy in general which still has many different ways. There is also Pyrometallurgy, which you could say was more the case with ancient mining and metallurgy. They both in their essence, have to do with Redox states of elements, in short, in the bronze age people would gather the source rock, put it in a kiln, smelter, someplace they could control the temperatures and what entered and what exited, use fuel, usually wood to heat the rocks, let air in or add other materials in specific times and then gather the desired resultant material such as metals like copper at the end.
There was a huge copper "mine", in the Great Lakes, used by the Native Americans and early explorers. I don't know what the purity of the ore was, but it seemed to be a pretty popular place.
First timer to this channel ever and I must say that I liked this video quite a bit. The challenging content and plan you set out when making this video is both interesting and engaging the way you filmed it. I must admit I have always wondered just how one would find a metal and then separate from rock to pour into a pure metal tool mould. Copper being a semi valuable metal, depending on how much you can find and use is a fantastic choice for this video. Anyways well done and I think I am even going to subscribe in case your other videos are just as interesting as this one is!
That ingot of copper would have been extremely valuable in ancient times. It could be a short sword, a bunch of arrow heads, religious idol, symbol of status, a piece of armor, or a tool like a hatchet, shovel or farm hoe.
Yeah, labor was cheap, but materials were expensive. A lack of technology to harvest and process metals made acquisition slow and time consuming. Like the video said, ancient times would only mine from rocks rich in copper ore that were easier to extract.
There are TH-camrs that make everything from scratch. If I was one of them, copper would be extremely valuable. To me that's a big part of electronics. The furthest I've seen someone make it in their series is very small amounts of cast iron that they plan on making into a small knife😂
@@ricksmith1673 Are you really an "MD" and asking that question? Just the arrow heads could mean surviving or winning a battle, or three years worth of big game meat. Try reaching any major organs in a buck or wild pig...
Marcos Mota why the hell would you expect a doctor of medicine to be knowledgeable in all things ancient materials. Even something that is obvious in retrospect might be hard to realize by making that connection.
This is so huge though, he can now make metal. Copper work-hardens too, so he can get decently hard metal just by hammering it. This opens the door to nails, fasteners, fittings, and so much more. Future projects can include copper, maybe bronze if he refines some tin. Then we'll be really getting somewhere.
My main issue with this except for the fact I got tired only from watching the entire process, is the fact that I kept imagining myself trying to create copper the same method you did (assuming I had the equipment) is a police drug bust into my home and me screaming "please officer, I'm only creating copper!".
For most of the video I was thinking I'd like to see the ancient method of making it, but at the end you say that you'll demonstrate that in the future. So I'm glad about that. It'll be interesting to have seen both.
Where the hell am I supposed to find sulfuric acid in the middle of an abandoned island? (Not that I am on one.) It would still be nice if you would smelt the rock, instead... Even if just to show it happening and to compare the alloy yield compared to the pure yield.
@@capnbilll2913 Depends on where you are in the world - and how old the island is. Sulphur is reactive and burns easily so finding it on an island that has vegetation would be rare.
AWESOME 😎👍👍 The adventure made your smelting of copper, priceless. And made you awesome indeed for sharing this great video. Keep up the good work. Sincerely Tom Weidler in Las Vegas Nevada
True. However, I would argue the point is finding and refining resources. Not so much the accurate-to-the-times processing. Granted it would be cool to see how it was done before technology, but the time and effort would be ENORMOUS. I would much rather see the effort put into making things out of the raw resources he has collected.
@@WizzyFilms he said at the end his copper wasn't rich enough to do the inefficient ancient techniques and that he bought rich copper ore and was planning on doing it the old way.
Man, this is giving me flash backs of me young'un days. With some un'explained funcking reason i loved the green color (and purple but this part is irrelevant) I used to go around all the swimming beaches i knew just swimming along the bottom collecting/scoureing all the green pebbles/rocks.
Dang, when you dumped that mill out and I seen those big round things. I was like what is that. And you’re not excited!!! But it was the balls from the mill. I know!!! No comment needed. I’ll finish my coffee before anything else happens.
When im recovering metals , i leach the copper out with black iron and a one to ten diluted acid , its a redox reaction and the copper falls to the bottom as the iron goes into the acid , pour thru a coffee filter and keep the black pouder witch is copper sulfide , a little capping flux and fire ! No electricty needed , even had gold show up in samples !
Can you imagine what it was like in this world _before_ the first intentional copper smelt? I've heard it theorised that the first smelter/ blacksmith would probably have started their career by cleaning out the ash from "last night's" fire and noticing that there was a very hard, somewhat malleable and likely shiny (dull lustre) lump of "stuff" in the pile of ash. They probably then uttered the rallying cry of every scientist throughout the ages: "That's odd..."
You put it so well...
Haha
i can understand a simpel man finding pretty green stone's and than just for the heck of it toss in the fire and watch if it does anything
@@t84t748748t6”whadaya know, I’ve discovered copper” 😅
Take it easy fruitcake.😂
@@t84t748748t6 More likely is that they used large stones to surround the fire (sometimes dropping them into the hot embers). Some would contain those precious metals.
Man, that rock dude's hair was majestic.
I came here to look for a comment about that guys hair
lol wtf is with his hair
You look pretty rocky yourself, though...!
a teacher of mine has the same hairdo xD
Like a peacock?
As an experienced rock hunter: Always stay together, wear a hardhat when there is any chance of anything falling on your head (ALWAYS) and don't go into abandoned mines and start digging.
Artisankat Studios I’ve just started watching this guy and I’m stunned why he doesn’t bother buying a hard hat.
Well... he got one of those right.
How did they smelt it back in the day?
@@WowYaska Probably very badly, with a lot of zinc smoke. Hopefully they new to stay out of the direction the smoke was blowing. It's possible to die from just 1 period of smelting if you inhale it :/ They would make a furnace of clay and a probably a clay crucible.
@@WowYaska They would melt it, in a forge, pour off the dross, or knock it off with a rock hammer, then melt it again, knock it off, and again,and it gradually emerged purified. I have done this myself.
You say the copper age was a "brief period" from roughly 5000 to 3000 BC, that's about the same ammount of time as it is between the foundation of the Roman empire and now
And yet it is a brief period of time.
Bronze age 5000 - 1100 (bc) Egyptian, Minoic, Assirus, Ittity, all these Cultures are from that age.
Brief - primarily coz the Global popular Historical Education system almost NEVER mentions Copper Age. Almost. Thus, brief.
Compared to the time scales he is referring to, yes. It is a brief period. Do you folks really not get context?
All of human history is just a mere blink in comparison to the cosmic timescale
This video would be even more interesting if you explored low tech methods to extract the copper or even if you discussed how you think they may have done it. They didn't have a science lab to make their copper tools. ;)
Who is "they" here
@@tonylee1667 the bois
@@tonylee1667 primitive people
More interested in how they did it 2000 years ago
DEFINITELY! That's what I thought the video was going to show!
aliens
@@YskarAlbumLuna Errr...No.
lol it could be tho, there's a lot of possibilities, we'll know someday i guess. I try to keep my mind open to anything.
@@YskarAlbumLuna No, because mankind did do it 2000 years ago! So good luck with that then...
You're getting so much better at producing those materials! Keep up the good work. Always looking forward you your videos!
I was going to comment the same thing. Also, I can't believe this channel hasn't hit a million yet. Soon..
@sheldon pereira the thing with copper is that it turns green as it oxidize so finding red copper on the surface might not be possible. He could easily go into the plastic age and make a plastic camera.
"Alright guys, today I'm gonna show you how to make a muffin pan. It's completely unrelated to me being shouted at by my mom for ruining her muffin pan..."
lol
Lmao
Jonny2myren sounds like Cody from codyslab
Thank you
He should have bought his own; he knows muffin pans are affordable.
The new minecraft update looks incredible
yes
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION
The Spanish Inquisition what’s your main weapon?
Guillotine 👍
The Spanish Inquisition wrong it should be fear, fear and surprise TWO! Your two main weapons are fear surprise and an almost ruthless efficiency THREE! Your three main weapons are fear surprise ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope oh DAM
WOW! I've held plenty of pieces of Malachite and Azurite in my hands over the years... but to see them occurring in the field in the form of huge blue cliffs is quite amazing.
It’s green, not blue.
So glad your getting a more sizable amount it makes the end result a lot cooler
What makes that copper muffin even cooler is water
so the cavemen just found some batteries and sulfuric acid
How did they make the first computer and remember you have to have a computer to program a computer
All the technology we have is very advanced actually and was no easy task
Brutha
Isis Dean search up alan turing
I am pretty sure they simply used much purer copper and/ or used other, most likely less efficent, extraction methods. Note that he says that he uses "the best way" and not the way of caveman.
"Scratch" must be some really awesome stuff. It seems to be the raw ingredient for just about everything. I mean, like, EVERYTHING!!
You need to use a mask to handle grinding of the silica! To anyone who reads this, please use protective gear for your lungs when grinding!!
Yeah, you don't want to get silicosis, or dust pneumonia
Thanks mom
Andy: **spends 535 dollars to get some copper**
**gets 2.50$ back from the ore**
*STONKS*
And after the video youtube gave him alot of money!
Mohit Kumar STONKS
U could say its STANKS
The Spanish Inquisition
I wasnt expecting you
SKONKS
The bucket animation was just adorable. Love it.
"OOO ITS SHINY" - a big part of human history, tbh
Not sure if analytics tell you what parts were watched or what point they watched until but I hope you know that putting your ads at the beginning and splitting them into two parts doesn't stop me from skipping them.
Fashy Dream Girl 😂
“My mom is going to be so mad when she sees what I did to her muffin pan!”
🤣🤣🤣
It doesn't matter how much it costs, it's just can you refine it or not. You have proved that you can.
Great job!! So much more organized and clean than usual. No big messes
GET IN TO THE COPPER!
XD
Scrap dat shit homeboy
*Get to the.....
GET TO THE COPPER. Zum Kupfer gehen
Ruined the quote.
Awesome! I love that you are willing to explore the entire process from beginning to end. We all take this stuff for granted, but you show us how hard it is to do on a diy scale. Thanks for sharing your journey of exploration with us.
I have a land area of copper etc just message me
If snakes are on your mind, stomp heavily around where you intend to work, the stomping will alert snakes as to something to big to eat approaches, the snake will either haul butt or sound off alerting you, so you can take safe steps. PEACE
Great advice, thank you~
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"So many holes, I don’t know which one to go into”. Yeap, thats what he said.
my thoughts exactly
Me reading a fucked up hentai
From coal to diamond next
Eyy kremit, I luv u
Yes please!
Not possible. Coal and diamonds are are made from the same base material but are created by two completely different processes. One cannot form the other.
Coal also has too many impurities to be compressed into diamond. Graphite though, TECHNICALLY possible, but with billion dollar equipment.
That puts a lot of pressure on him
Need to see the more primitive way, you know just incase of time travel
check out the primitive channels such as survival skill primitive.
From stick to Ak47
It won't be too long before he's making a Nuke. Or a Space Station.
stick wins
"Today I show you how you can make a teleporter from scratch."
Why should the end point be an assault weapon? What about something benevolent, like from stick to EKG?
+Evan Barnes Because guns are cool
If Dr stone had an TH-cam channel
That rock dude was really ROCKing his hairstyle
You need to somehow assess the purity of your ‘muffin’... maybe send it to Cody and get him to use his X-ray spectrometer on it?
He can asssume its pure enough for his purposes. He isnt looking for pure copper, he is looking for a workable metal. It just so happens copper is one of the easiest to extract.
X-ray florescence isn't exactly a highly accurate method of assay. It will give you roughly what's in a sample and a very rough approximation of the ratios, but it should never, ever be used to determine purity. At the very least you need a gas chromatograph for that. The X-ray guns are a quick and dirty SWAG.
Well the quickest way is to just compare densities. What else would be in there? Sulfur, lead, iron/carbon (steel), and whatever was in the original ore. Silicates? I don't know.
It would probably be lighter than pure copper, but maybe not. Anyway, pretty easy to do a quick and dirty density test.
@@Prometheus720 that would be like the worst purity test lol
@@zombesn that would be like the purity tests the ancients knew to do. It would be a start. That's also why Andy pulled off the slag from the top when it was melted, though the pour looked like it might have had a chunk of impurities on the bottom.
"I wasn't talking to you, Alexa!" 😂😂😂
When I saw the dude who took a look at your rocks, all I could think for the rest of the video was "Now that's commitment to one's hairdo"
Guy on Ancient Aliens has weird hairdo
Guy who collects copper rocks has weird hairdo.
CONFIRMED metalsmithing is ancient alien technology!
He must have a duel against Yugi later
I had to read to the comments until I found one on his hairdo!
Cayotes, rattlesnakes... Big deal.
In Norway we've got sheep!!
Lol
In Florida we have everything it’s scary
Do your sheep have pointy teeth? Be very afraid.
@@ace127 Yeah, I heard horror stories about those swamp kitties. What was the other name for them. Oh right, Alligators.
Pssshwwwaahhh ... here in South Africa we have baboons that can come into our houses... And lions, elephants, zebras, rhinos, Eiland buck and many more in nature reserves.. lol and sheep and domestic livestock
. Lol
I want you to know that the Tuskin Raider reference did not go unappreciated. 5:05
That geologists hair though.
Terrifying
Greaser, billy
"Using accurate classical 9000BC techniques that our ancient human ancestors used to extract and purify the copper - one of the first metals our species ever purified.."
...uses a plastic bucket to collect the rocks, throws them into a 4x4 Off Road Jeep, drives home to electrically grind the ore into a pure sulphuric acid solution and connect to a battery and strain through coffee filters and sulphuric acid onto a metal muffin tray..
Uhhhmm... I spotted a mistake... Real accurate, except for the one anachronism where you are wearing a modern watch in this video.
Otherwise I would have been totally bought it.. I was fooled up until then!
I dont really get where he said "this is how they did it 3-5k years ago"
I know its a channel concept, but where does it say that?? I can only read in the description how he did it
@Please Complete All Fields He did certainly not use the same chemical process. Electricity hasn't been around that long, and while sulfuric acid was already discovered a very long time ago, it could not have been manufactured in the required amounts. Instead, they probably reduced the copper ores by repeatedly baking/smelting the ores in a furnace.
Yeah the fact this guy is using modern tools with modern knowledge and still has this much trouble working with metals is just... wow.
6,000 BC
@@entcraft44 He did if briefly explain why the modern refining methods: The modern ore is too low grade to use ancient methods designed for high grade ore.
So you found a plane ticket to and from, a car rental, and accounted for your time at min wage and only spent 535 dollars? You needa share your travel agent with me.
anyone else notice that youtubers get paid to make the most wasteful videos?
American Engineering so do tv shows
yeah. why are people so interested in junk.
American Engineering I don't think that this is a wasteful video. I don't think I'm the only person who finds these videos highly educational while still being interesting.
how do u plan to use this knowledge that this video has educated u with?
Mining is a passion, good to see something worthy watching! Thank u from a miner from Pakistan
did.... did you say AZERIGHT!!!! CHAMPION!!! THE WORLD NEEDS OUR HELP!!!
5:30 "I am worried about snakes"
I would be more concerned about finding a mountain lion in their.
there*
The lions would make themselves very known. They don't tend to attack groups so there is that at least.
@@Ontarianmm I live in the middle of nowhere and yes.. they make themselves known
...very known..
Woke up at 2:43 am to hear what sounded like a messed up speaker.
Make some medieval steel weaponry please
U love this channel I watch this over Netflix keep this up
Awesome. Really gives you a sense of just how far we've come as a civilization. Materials that used to take hundreds of man-hours to produce are just dirt cheap now and taken for granted.
Extracting and smelting metals is so fascinating. So many people today learn about the past and just hear about each "age" not knowing how it was done. The Periodic Table of Elements Coloring Book is mine. I wish I had known about this channel before I wrote it.
smelting it is so much easier
They didn't have the right kind of raw material. With thin coatings of mineral, leaching is the most economical and fastest way. Otherwise you have to chip off all the little bits of mineral one rock at a time vs. soaking and dissolving mineral while you can use the time for other activities.
@@markbowling3859 cant you just scrape the slag/dross?
yeah I've seen some east asian dudes make some bronze age smelting with clay ovens and hand powered blowers to keep the wooden fire going. And they got almost all the copper just by crushing the rocks and just dumped it in to the oven. about 24h, and they already had drops of copper at the bottom of the oven. Then they took that and placed those in these stone cups that they reheated until they had them smelted. Overall no more than two days of work. This coating shit no doubt catches all the copper, but it too the guy a week or two to get the copper out.
You people have no idea who Jeff Williams is obviously. He’s smarter than most of anyone who comments on here
Whoever smelt it, dealt it
Copper
Made: $2.50
Spent: $550
Video
Made: $1,500
Spent: $0
A lot of work hours go into creating a video as well.Definitely not a 0$ spent case.
Stonks
Travel expense,gas, and other things come into play as well
*insert Minecraft joke about digging straight down here*
Was digging for some iron when broke some stone. To my surprise, the cave started to cave in around me. I rushed to put a torch on the ground and it saved me from the cave in. There was a lot of gravel.
Dude, the mine was a horizontal mine I believe
That dude must be smart lmao
@Creations and circuits You just haven't modded it my friend. Copper has been common in the modding community since like 2014
Man, 5 minutes in and this video made me miss Ft. Irwin. I used to sleep in my snake and scorpion proof (ie zipped completely up) sleeping bag.. with my discman.. on rocks throughout those wadies. OPFOR was pretty fun back in the day.. I miss that place.. and time.. not the 145° quite as much.. but even that made one feel alive.. close to death.. but alive.. thanks for bringing back to the fore!
Geez, you have such beautiful ore rich places in US. I studied Geology in Germany and we never visited such places full of metal. I guess it is because in Germany the rock is empty, we got all we could get and they even started to reuse the waste rock from heaps to get all rest of usable metal out of it.
Sweden use to have a lot of copper mines, they once had their currency based on it. But I think in the USA they have hugh open pit mines in Arizona and places so there really is no need to play with these places. Just imagine the demand for copper shells in WWI, WWII.
Very inspiring. It's amazing that early man figured these things out in the first place. I thought copper and iron extraction was 'round about' until I read about Titanium. ... not only things like metals, but look up how chocolate came about and what a complex process it actually is. Who was smoking what when someone said " ... let's make some chocolate".?
Man it’s so cool! Your making it exactly like they used to make it! If they had all of those technologies you use like beakers, I love this series but I wish you did literally EVERYTHING from scratch, only using the tools you made yourself.
th-cam.com/video/3nneL6zDEMA/w-d-xo.html
They had electricity in prehistoric times?
How did you make sulfuric acid?
Some auto parts stores sell it. There's a half dozen ways to make it from scratch, and it's basically ancient tech. It's also a good idea to make pH paper beforehand. Grow some red cabbage, extract the pigment onto slips of paper and voila.
@@chrisbalfour466 a fellow amateour chemist i see.
Burn sulphur in a vessel & bubble the evolved Sulphur Trioxide gas through water. It's a crude method & it generates a lot of heat.
S8 + 12O2 > 8SO3^
SO3 + H2O > H2SO4
Hydrogen Peroxide and Elemental Sulfur works, it's slow and need a closed container, Sulfur oxides are after all gases.
I know how to make it- many ways like pyrite and stuff-but I was wondering how they got it,and if they made it then why not record it
That’s still really cool. I naturally have a fondness for copper.
Really interesting,thanks for showing the whole mechanics of doing the process
Congrats on 900k!
I want to see you try to make a foot powered lathe. (Treadle lathe) It’s supposed to be a pretty simple design and it would be cool to see you attempt that
foot powered ball mill
Is no one going to talk about that guys hair?
It's EPIC!
It was incredible!
He might be a bit of a stoner
Hell yeah bro Dave the rock guy used to be my history teacher back in high school I’m from that time. Give a guess to what car he drives
sadly every one is talking about his hair
Process is so refinary and firmed. Thank You.
I understand this video is already a few months old, but as someone with a Geology Bachelor there are somethings I could point out:
*First and most important is safety, You guys let yourselves be separated in an area you were unfamiliar with for quite some time. Although with the dirt roads it`s unlikely you would have gotten lost, what if one of you was bit by a snake? You went into an old abandoned mine tunnel without protective gear, I`m not sure if you had anyone outside knowing your status if the mine had collapsed. You started picking rocks without eye protection, and also you should remember to never go under rock walls that seem to have a negative dip or hanging state. You grinded silicates and worked with acid without proper masks to protect your respiratory system. You may have had someone help you with this stuff, but for those who might see your video and think: Going out with a pickaxe to mine some rock we have no idea about seems like a good idea, it`s not. It`s dangerous.
** Green is not the only color of copper minerals, Blue as well as Brown (bronze) can be indicators. You may have noticed that the surface of those rocks seem to be more Green than their centers. That`s because when in contact with air and water, some minerals can be leached or washed out of rocks, and some other like copper bearing minerals stay. But what has happened here is that Other, less colour intensive copper minerals like Chalcopyrite have weathered into things like malachite. This weathering happens at surface and joints more than other places.
*** I see a lot of people in the comments wondering how this was done in ancient times. Extraction of metals from rock has different ways, what was done in this video is usually referred to as Hydrometallurgy in general which still has many different ways. There is also Pyrometallurgy, which you could say was more the case with ancient mining and metallurgy. They both in their essence, have to do with Redox states of elements, in short, in the bronze age people would gather the source rock, put it in a kiln, smelter, someplace they could control the temperatures and what entered and what exited, use fuel, usually wood to heat the rocks, let air in or add other materials in specific times and then gather the desired resultant material such as metals like copper at the end.
There was a huge copper "mine", in the Great Lakes, used by the Native Americans and early explorers. I don't know what the purity of the ore was, but it seemed to be a pretty popular place.
your mom should be mad how you used that pick lol
wow, the "guy who knows rocks" had a serious hairstyle
It defied physics and explanation.
Money well spent. Man’s curiosity is his reward.
You are among the most valuable people of the world. Awesome!
3:38 Maaaaaaayyynnnn I feel like I'm in real life MINECRAFT!
First timer to this channel ever and I must say that I liked this video quite a bit. The challenging content and plan you set out when making this video is both interesting and engaging the way you filmed it. I must admit I have always wondered just how one would find a metal and then separate from rock to pour into a pure metal tool mould. Copper being a semi valuable metal, depending on how much you can find and use is a fantastic choice for this video. Anyways well done and I think I am even going to subscribe in case your other videos are just as interesting as this one is!
That ingot of copper would have been extremely valuable in ancient times. It could be a short sword, a bunch of arrow heads, religious idol, symbol of status, a piece of armor, or a tool like a hatchet, shovel or farm hoe.
Yeah, labor was cheap, but materials were expensive. A lack of technology to harvest and process metals made acquisition slow and time consuming. Like the video said, ancient times would only mine from rocks rich in copper ore that were easier to extract.
There are TH-camrs that make everything from scratch. If I was one of them, copper would be extremely valuable. To me that's a big part of electronics. The furthest I've seen someone make it in their series is very small amounts of cast iron that they plan on making into a small knife😂
@@ricksmith1673 Are you really an "MD" and asking that question? Just the arrow heads could mean surviving or winning a battle, or three years worth of big game meat. Try reaching any major organs in a buck or wild pig...
Marcos Mota why the hell would you expect a doctor of medicine to be knowledgeable in all things ancient materials. Even something that is obvious in retrospect might be hard to realize by making that connection.
Excellent video.
Nice work!
OMG the rock store guy is a ROCKABILLY! Gotta respect that level of dedication to a pun.
For your next attempt, you could try northern Michigan for copper ore, copper was a major export in the 1800’s
The Michigan mines produced pure copper sheets and lumps with no refining needed. Incredible
It’s called Copper Harbor for a reason. From what I understand, you can find small copper nuggets on the beach/shallows.
I work geology at an Arizona copper mine. This is... humorous. :-D
I'm also a geologist... I do agree.
For the next metal extraction you might want to check out bioleaching. It's more cost effective with low purity ores.
I like that clink clink sounds when mariop puts rocks in bucket tho😂
This is so huge though, he can now make metal. Copper work-hardens too, so he can get decently hard metal just by hammering it. This opens the door to nails, fasteners, fittings, and so much more. Future projects can include copper, maybe bronze if he refines some tin. Then we'll be really getting somewhere.
pours out a chunk of copper "that's a pretty expensive muffin!"
THE MUFFIN PANS
Should be presprayed with PAM cooking spray.. 🏠
My main issue with this except for the fact I got tired only from watching the entire process, is the fact that I kept imagining myself trying to create copper the same method you did (assuming I had the equipment) is a police drug bust into my home and me screaming "please officer, I'm only creating copper!".
For most of the video I was thinking I'd like to see the ancient method of making it, but at the end you say that you'll demonstrate that in the future. So I'm glad about that. It'll be interesting to have seen both.
So glad I found this.
_"...Unfortunately, the directions to it were a bit vague, and took us on a bit of a wild goose chase..."_
*_Mojave, ... Mo' problems_*
mo bamba
Where the hell am I supposed to find sulfuric acid in the middle of an abandoned island? (Not that I am on one.)
It would still be nice if you would smelt the rock, instead... Even if just to show it happening and to compare the alloy yield compared to the pure yield.
Sapioit That would all depend on whether the island had any copper ore on it.
You can make sulphuric acid by smelting copper sulphide ore.... (the fumes are NASTY).
Sounds like something someone on an abandoned island would say
Most islands are volcanic, sulfur deposits are common.
@@capnbilll2913 Depends on where you are in the world - and how old the island is. Sulphur is reactive and burns easily so finding it on an island that has vegetation would be rare.
That copper dude had absolutely mint hair ^-^
6:34 You must break rocks from the pointed side and pick up them from the shovel like side. ⛏️
AWESOME 😎👍👍
The adventure made your smelting of copper, priceless. And made you awesome indeed for sharing this great video. Keep up the good work. Sincerely Tom Weidler in Las Vegas Nevada
from plastic to c4
@MB294 Even though C-4 is called "plastique", it's not made from plastic.
@@hugehappygrin it was a joke
Using metal to make metal seems a bit cheaty ;)
sulfuric acid too. and electricity.
True. However, I would argue the point is finding and refining resources. Not so much the accurate-to-the-times processing. Granted it would be cool to see how it was done before technology, but the time and effort would be ENORMOUS. I would much rather see the effort put into making things out of the raw resources he has collected.
@@WizzyFilms he said at the end his copper wasn't rich enough to do the inefficient ancient techniques and that he bought rich copper ore and was planning on doing it the old way.
The first thing an ancient copper miner would have done is make a copper digging tool and cook his next meal with the obsolete one... ;)
I wonder why the mine was abandoned, considering the ore was right at the surface in plain sight. Copper is a fairly valuable material.
probably abandoned due to competition
This a highly elaborate process for acquiring pure Copper!
Man, this is giving me flash backs of me young'un days.
With some un'explained funcking reason i loved the green color
(and purple but this part is irrelevant)
I used to go around all the swimming beaches i knew just swimming along the bottom collecting/scoureing all the green pebbles/rocks.
7:59 looking like The Who’s down in whovill
I was like " copper metal? What genre is that?" :d
You could make 30 feet of 1/2 copper plumbing pipe with that muffin.. Then it would be worth 20 times more.
Probably the best Hardcore Ironman video in all of Runescape.
Dang, when you dumped that mill out and I seen those big round things. I was like what is that. And you’re not excited!!! But it was the balls from the mill. I know!!! No comment needed. I’ll finish my coffee before anything else happens.
Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
5:18 my first time encountering a girl.
Usually girls only have 2 holes down there 👇
Hahahahahahahahahahahahah
Girl = cave. Just wow ahahahaha
how do you feel in tight place there
@@jamesliu2577 enjoyment
Collab with Cody to enhance your refining results?
But never the king of random they used to be good but now everything is click bait and has shitty animations at the start
When im recovering metals , i leach the copper out with black iron and a one to ten diluted acid , its a redox reaction and the copper falls to the bottom as the iron goes into the acid , pour thru a coffee filter and keep the black pouder witch is copper sulfide , a little capping flux and fire ! No electricty needed , even had gold show up in samples !
Very nice...very nice indeed. You had an idea...you went with....you made it happen. Cool,cool, cool. Love it.