I do think some people have a point that I may have been a little unclear with my power judgement of him. Yes really do I think his top team is basically just as strong as other characters top teams. But there are better options than him in those teams (yae for aggravate, alhaitham for hyperbloom). You do NOT pull Cyno for meta alone. But I still stand by that his best team belongs in the same tier and right next to if not just a bit below those other top teams. Good power level, very low account value is what I said, but I just want to make sure I’m clear that for power level other option are usually better. But anyone who says he’s weak, or Way below those teams I don’t think is being honest either.
one underrated advantage cyno has over alhaitham is consolidating both the quicken and hyperbloom driver into 1 unit, which lets him take full advantage of furina by running baizhu alongside nahida since alhaitham is dendro, he only has room for 1 other dendro on the team. you're not able to comfortably slot in baizhu without dropping nahida, which only leaves you with kuki for generating furina stacks if we ever get a teamwide electro healer that can also trigger hyperblooms off-field this will change, but right now alhaitham furina teams feel incomplete
I thought your assessment was pretty balanced. Too many stop at pure account value and not the details of what their best teams are and why they’re strong ✅
To be honest I'm not pulling for Cyno only because I don't have Nahida or Raiden, and they are on some of the most premier teams that I see you have on all of your videos featuring either one or the other. Until I get both of those characters @Jello Impact my account won't feel complete even though I know you would say different because I have almost all the other characters that you have, without Nahida or Raiden my account feels like it's lacking
Ive been using cyno religiously in abyss since his first run. No regrets. It was so satisfying using him in the second half of this abyss since there was no multiwave. Praying to finally get his c2 after losing some 50/50s. Great guide as always
cyno is a character that requires a lot of planing tbh but when hes good he is really good. i wish he felt that good in overworld but using him in abyss and combat events is always fun
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz That Is completely false. He can 36* the Abyss even at lower investiment with a 3* weapon and 4* supports. The only thing that he needs Is Nahida, but so do Nilou and Alhaitham, so it's not a Cyno only issue.
@@davidm0355 where's your proof then he can't 36s star abyss anymore he needs nahida baizhu furina now to even be viable atleast alhaitham got yaoyao and dmc as nahida replacement and nilou yaoyao collei works unlike cyno lmao
@@javelinmaster2 It's alright, I'm sure you'll be able to witness the General Mahahaha's punny jokes in the future should there be an event in Summer-u.
As a cyno player who pulled him on his first banner i'd like to warn all that you *REALLY* do not want to skip ER on him, all of his damage comes exclusively from his 80 energy burst and if you dont have it perfectly recharged by the end of the rotation you will wish you had pulled a different character His ER is extremely important and i'd seriously advise getting a solid 140% ER before focusing on his damage Another thing of note is that if you use DMC instead of nahida your ER problems are bigger Not only because he generates less particles overall but also because his dendro app is slower and this means less consistent thundering fury skill recharges (i still lack nahida so the 140% ER is based off DMC energy generation, with nahida you will need less)
This. While he was listing his weapon options, he kinda glossed over ER ones like Skyward Spine. These aren't half bad if you don't have ER built in your artifacts. My Cyno has like 150 ER, and it's so comfortable to be able to swap out early while still getting your burst back when you need it. It alleviates his multi wave downside.
I agree with this statement, nothing worse than finishing an abyss floor early into your burst so you didn’t get to recharge his energy. It happens so often that I don’t mind sacrificing a little damage in place of ER
You don't Really need 140% if you have Fischl ( She can Battery Cyno, Especially with Fav Bow even on C0) Now DMC's ER will be pain (Pretty sure everyone can C6 him), Running with Sac Sword will be great since he can get more energy For Last slot For Hydro XQ will be his best option cuz he could focus more on ER making it possible to run him without Sac Sword Or Any strong Shielder or can provide Healing,DR, or IR
It’s not practical since so many things can cause run time variations. It feels about 15- 20% better from all the testing I’ve done. Quite significant feeling to me.
@@JelloImpact yeah I understand, like with the pyro lectors. Thanks for replying though! Very cool. And yeah, a percentage stats opinion is fine too, thank you!
@@RecordToDeathToBoredom havent done that on spiral abyss, but i tried running him on yelan, nahida, yao yao with tenacity. it's actually very viable. though furina, nahida, and baizhu will boost your damage even further, especially if you equip baizhu with ttods and noblesse
Beidou is underrated with Cyno for mobbing content. She gives: Interruption resistance Damage Reduction AoE coverage Extra Shield for bonus survivability 100% Hyperbloom Ownership to Cyno 15% Electro Shred at C6 The ER cost is not really that much of a problem with Electro Resonance & Favge.
The thing is his team is strict, there's not much room for flexibility, Beidou could replace Nahida but then he loses a lot of bloom dmg, replace Furina then it's an aggravate team, works but not the best team for him, can't replace Baizhu though. I guess you could play Cyno Nahida(prototype amber) Xingqiu Beidou for a spin, don't know how strong though
@@naotonhan5253i have furina and baizhu, while i wait for nahida rerun, should i just use dendro mc? i also have c6 beidou, what would a team with cyno and her look like?
@@sayandas3876 it's not a good team, Collei skill can't keep up with Cyno's long burst, Barb off field hydro application is almost non existence, Beidou is compatible but kinda has a lot of ER requirement.
Went hard to get furina, so i had 1 pull after i got her and used it for fun on beizhus banner and what should i say, ive got him. since i really enjoy my cyno and i had a lack on supporter for him, all i can say now is... HE'S BACK BABY! And thanks for the Video! Perfect timing!
I tried him for the first time in the battle event that ended a few days ago and for some reason his eye skill felt so satisfying to use. I will be pulling for Kuki on the upcoming banner, but if I accidentally get Cyno in the meantime, I wouldn't mind.
Just watched your previous Cyno guide a few minutes ago, now you're posting another one! What a coincidence! Really want the General Mahahatra but don't have the primos nor the resin. Have all his other supports as well.
NGL, i don't really want him, but i kinda wanna pull just for the 4-stars on his banner. And if i get him, pretty decent unit that i have his best team built already.
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz hello there mr hater. Once again you comment bs under this video. To everyone else reading this reply - this dude literally replies under every comment here. Don’t pay attention to him. You certainly have better things to do😉 Peace ✌️
I started as a Razor main until Cyno came out and then pulled him. I've loved playing his teams since! It started with Cyno/Xingqiu/Collei/Kuki, and then Cyno/XQ/Nahida/Kuki. Baizhu replaced Kuki. I sometimes use Fischl over Xingqiu when facing things like Oceanid. Now that Furina is out, I plan on adding her in to make the team you mentioned in your video. He's not the best in overworld just due to him being burst focused, but you did mention that. I don't have any five star polearms and currently have him on R1 Ballad of the Fjords. Not sure yet if I want to try to go for his weapon or not this patch.
Thundering Fury really helps with Cyno's ER requirements and can easily reach higher damage totals in longer rotations compared to Guilded. You do have to be careful with your E timings cause from the third off-beat E onwards, Thundering Fury's cooldown reduction timing won't match with his Endseer passive. So basically after your 3rd Eyeseer skill, you have to wait even if your cooldown has reset, after which you can go back to spamming your skill off-cooldown. Also TF is overall more fun lol
is it really that good? I just got cyno & am hesitant to try TF since it sounds more complicated and less braindead, and i've been farming Deepwood/Gilded already, but you make it sound tempting. Maybe i will try later if i have extra resin to burn, haha.
Hard disagree on "Enguffing Lighting not good on him because he doesn't want the ER" Cyno is very energy hungry Engulfing not only help his energy problems, it's also reward him for doing so by converting ER to Atk buff
I managed to pull c0 Baizhu, Furina, and now Cyno today, but they're not very well built yet. No Nahida though. I've got Cyno on moonpiercer, but since every time I look up what's good for him everyone says something different, so moonpiercer he stays for now. Either way, good damage or not, I'm just happy to have him. I'm one step closer to collecting the Sumeru boys now!
I like Cyno and I tried to play him in so many different ways. I have pretty much every character important to his comps, and at the end of the day I had to put an ER artifact on him to make sure he always has his burst ready. His hyperbloom or quickbloom team are so much harder to play compared to the others. If you play him in a quickbloom with Furina Nahida and Baizhou with a ER artifact, he's pretty viable and you won't lose that much EM thanks to Nahida.
After the snub that he was done collectively by the community after his release, seeing this quality guide warms this Cyno main's soul. About the ER requirements, I'm running him with 4p GD and 146%, and he runs smoothly with other electros. However, in his Furina team (which I like to call Divine Justice) I have both her and Baizhu on fav to make them all work well, and even then there's been some moments where I'm still a bit short for his burst. It's definitely worth it, but just saying that non-TF Cynos might still struggle sometimes even with your threshold. Depends on the content, of course, as mob content gives more particles and it's not an issue there. I'd say 140s-150s is your minimum to feel more sure. Also, I've had a lot of fun and comfiness with Kuki as his healer and battery even if she steals a lot of hyperbloom pops (but that's not a problem since she normally has higher EM and stronger pop damage than him, even mine who wears tenacity in his team does a couple more k's)
Ive been having alot of fun playing Cyno with Zhongli, Beidou and Nahida. This team is quite fun. As for Hyperbloom i use him with Nahida yelan and kuki for the healing(kuki can be replaced for Beidou)
I'm a proud cyno main since release and I can assure you if you have baizhu and furina that shit is incredible, evrything dies instantly. (though bhaizhu and xinqui or yelan are also very good options if you don't have furina)
I pulled for him this banner because I like his character and know that I don't mind the longer rotation (I find quickswap annoying sometimes with my keyboard layout actually). I had a built Nahida, Fischl, and Kokomi already so knew I already had a pretty good team to slot him in to. Also already had a Deathmatch back from my non-f2p days lol. I only have him to level 60 atm (I hate farming the scarabs lol) but even now with very less than optimal artifacts he's still very quickly tearing through WL 8 enemies. I'm excited to see what I can do with him in abyss once I get him built a bit more. And he's just really fun to play.
@JelloImpact Could you make a best "unga bunga" teams guide? I am a pretty casual player and I love your guides on teams that do not require "sweaty" gameplay.
As I Cyno enjoyer, not gonna lie, I personally found new love for him when I started to play him in a Quickbloom comp that consists of: Cyno, Fishl/Beidou (depends on the enemies but mainly Fishl), Prototype Amber Nahida and Xingqiu. Resistance to interuption from XQ, healing from his swords and also Prototype, makes the team relatively safe, and the dmg this team makes is off the charts. Not sure if this team is mathematicly correct and for sure it has less overall dps then the Furina Cyno Quickbloom, but this team is unexpectedly comfy :)
this is exactly what im planning to do!! i accidentally got cyno a while ago (2.X? idk) and i really regretted it but since nahida might rerun soon im waiting for her and doing this team!!
I'm looking forward to Cyno. He's been kinda fun in the trials I've gotten to play him in so far (his story quest, the recent event) but all of them had pretty sus builds. Knowing he just gets better with proper investment is great. Thanks for the video. I feel like the only problem is pulling for Cyno feels almost like it comes with a Nahida requirement, his best non-Nahida teams seem... mildly cope? People talk about Furina/Baizhu/Dendro MC but I've only ever really seen it be successful when the other 3 units have enough investment the 4th could be anyone and it would work. I just about laughed when I saw a promising Baizhu/Xingqiu/Thoma team in your video... only for you to dash my dreams by saying it should be Nahida, lmao.
I actually think Cyno could potentially get better due to the upcoming Natlan region. We've learned that the new character(I'm not even gonna attempt to spell her name) is based off of Overload reactions, and apparently she is going to be absolutely insane times infinity for those, and we will definitely get more characters in the future for that reaction, so I think that Cyno could potentially have a better Overload team in the future. Overload is scaled on EM, after all. At the very least, I think overload teams could become a viable team for Cyno
We’re you referring to Chevreuse? Because if you did she limits the team to Pyro and Electro only which means giving up on Dendro reactions. I think she is great but for other units that can focus on Overload better than Cyno can. There aren’t many great off field pyro units that last as long as Cyno wants. Maybe Xiangling with constellations. But then you have 2 energy black holes on the team
@ThePenguinsKing Yeah, after playing with her I realize she isn't great with Cyno. But... my statement still stands that he could get buffed further and overload becomes viable with him as Natlan characters come out!
10:00 I think that Kitain Cross Spear is his best Weapon after his SIG; because it gives very HIGH ER%, which’s what needed to Cyno; because his best teams are without a secend Electro character, which will increase his neediness to ER%, such as teams as: Cyno Chaos, Cyno Quickbloom with Furina. Also for: Cyno, Yelan, Zhongli, and Nahida.
Just put an electro battery with him like fischl white tassel is better than any F2P weapon since his ult is NA but infused with electro and gives good crit rate
From the damage calcs I've done and seen gilded dreams only slightly edges out thundering fury in terms of rotational damage by about 2% with medium investment. . However once you consider Soss and put him in hyperbloom teams, both of which benefit from having high base em the difference becomes much bigger as jello basically said.
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzi personally had Cyno since his 1st rerun... Used him both with TF and Gilded sets... I would say TF is better if you don't have his signature weapon... But if you have Staff of Scarlett Sands... Gilded Dreams definitely better... Because of his EM scaling and how the weapon gives bonus attack based on EM... And in aggravate/Hyperbloom teams/taser teams... More EM is generally better... And if you run Cyno with electro resonance... You can get away with 120% er for his energy requirements... I never face energy problems when playing Cyno
@@mpr12 yeah but that 20% er could have been em instead 20% er is equal to 80 EM , you also are able to run double dendro by then which is another 100 EM , along with 4pc tf which increases electro based reaction by about 80 EM,
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz as I said... I already tried Cyno with both sets since long... And what I said is general case scenario... At the end of day... It's upto you... And which artifacts have better substats lol... Both sets just work fine on him... And one is better than other in different scenarios so yeah
Honestly I pulled Cyno on accident and the cost was minimal but seeing his potential, I wanted to commit by getting his weapon (which I did too) and that commitment is beginning to pay off
I got furina but don’t have the primos for baizhu. There’s no cyno team without cyno after all xdd had to leave someone behind. I’ve been using yaoyao with furina and it doesn’t feel bad at all and I’m not really into the meta stuff so maybe my expectations aren’t as high. Anyway i’ll try out the comp with furina and Yaoyao instead of baizhu and hopefully it works well 😊
I love Cyno, even before Furin, his best team was Xinchou, Baizhu, Nahida, and the team is extremely good. Now I have Cyno C2 already, and his weapon. But perhaps I'll pull for C3-4
Yeah he’s another “want” character, which you’ll only pull if you like his character, which is the case for me😂 I liked the team sections since i get to see the pros and cons of using him in a specific team.
so interesting question u said the ER sands was to much er for him with that being said it is easier to not having to use a secondary electro unit, current team i have since i dont have furina is cyno, fischl, kazuha, and biazhu.. was wondering with the ER sands i could swap out fischl for Xinqiu
Amazing guide! If possible, would you be able to do a similar guide on Ayato? I'm torn between pulling for him or Cyno...I like them both equally and am trying to decide which one to pull for !
So personally as a C2R1 Cyno haver, I still prefer to use Thundering Fury, to be able to use more skills during his burst. I'm not good enough to maximise them, but I still manage to fit always one and sometimes two extra skills. The extra energy helps with his needs as it's something I've been struggling with. I would probably need to get a bit more ER in general but.. eh.. it is what it is.
What are your thoughts on Cyno with Furina, Sucrose, & Barbara? Cyno is strong with Furina, Sucrose adds grouping and EM nonsense, and Barbara is a full heal for Furina, a heal for Cyno while his burst is up, and extra HP for Furina's DPS. I don't own Kazuha or Kokomi, and figured this comp seemed pretty solid.
17:05 That combo is only can be used in his Aggravate teams. The better combo with his Quickbloom team, is: Skill (off Burst), Skill (in the Burst State), Skill, (Eye Skill), Skill, (Eye Skill), Skill, (Eye Skill), skill, (Eye Skill)……. Until you Burst is off. In short, use his skill, whenever you get your Skill back, in Thundering Fury; with his Quickbloom Teams. 👍
I can even squeeze in 2E before the Eye skill if I have good ping 😂, so at the start it's like E-Q-E-E-E (Eye skill), then you have to slow down the 2nd round or you'll miss the eye, the 3rd round could be the same with 2Es. Kinda hard to follow through so basically I also just spam his E off cd😂
yep... thats true... i stoped using thundering fury since i got a cracked guilded dream set i was farming for alhaithan.... but when i was using TF with cyno i was just unga bunga all the time spaming E and pretty much always sinc up with the eye.... it was REALLY rare to messed up
I got Cyno accidentaly on his first banner, but at that time only traveler could provide him a good Dendro application, i still love his gameplay tho. Not a long ago i got him C2 and Signature, he absolutely destroys Hydro Tulpa in Abyss with almost no help! I am going for Nahida firstly for him( and secondly for Tighnari and Yae). Now his teams has more flexibility, you can use Yao Yao or Kirara as a 4* supports, Furina or Yelan\Xingqiu for hyperbloom and so on. Of course he may be more expensive and he really want Nahida for comfortable gameplay but it's always player decision to pull or not.
I hate that I don’t have nahida and baizhu. I still make him work with dendro mc, fischl, and a sustain character. It helps that I’ve got him c2, I don’t have many pulls left after arlechinno but I’m gonna be using them on baizhu so I can run fischl, furina, and baizhu with my Cyno
I got cyno so I'm here.at first, I regret getting him since I'm pretty sure I will not get a banner character since I got 3 times in a row (hutao, furina, baizhu). but somehow I can accept now since I got all the characters for his best team but after I finished build baizhu and furina
Cyno having a top tier team is great, but that also just adds more to one of his problems that I dread which is it feels bad to play in overworld. With Nahida, Furina, Baizhu, you might as well be playing 3 characters in the overworld cause enemies die before he even comes up.
All I do in overworld is just use Baizhu only then Cynos burst because Furina and nahida are overkill against easier enemies. Just make sure you give them more er in overworld situations
Nahida, baizhu/zhongly and fischl is very powerful too. Actually my favorite before golden troupe and fischl is even more op now. Just stay until a sec after her bird dissapear and you are good
I feel thundering fury is overall the best set imo. Specially at high investment since cyno shreds hard so you need to balance er far more. More power=harder balancing act with er
Another thing, just because he can stay onfield till the end of time.doesn't mean you want to. If your supports rotate quicker he got the option to do so just fine as his dmg doesn't change depending on when you finish as long as you get to the eye proc
@Fairy-Uvinq he benefits from both atk and em. U wanna balance out the two. Also, the reason why I suggested fishcl on tenacity is u wanna use her as a support. Yes, Golden Troup on her will make her deal some nice dmg, but with tenacity, it buffs the entire team including nahida. Also nahida's e-kill scales from atk&em. Golden Troup doesn't buff cyno nor the team only its wielders dmg, whereas tenacity buffs everyone. Just some food for thought.🙂
My first ever 5* was Cyno(lvl 90), hes curently using a favonius lance (lvl 80), my current team is Cyno(90), Baizhu(90), Xingqiu(80), Alhaitham(80) and its actually pretty strong if you use everyone's bursts first
I have Furina, Cyno, and Nahida but I wasn’t able to get Baizhu so I really don’t know what to do with him. I didn’t really want Cyno since I was planning to save for Yoimiya and I wasn’t guaranteed but I’m trying my best to use him anyway. I hope Baizhu is rerun soon though since I really need him with Furina
Cyno + Xq + Yelan + Nahida (prototype amber) EM EM CritDmg (900 EM inside Nahida's burst) TF 4pc + Deathmatch with 72%/224% crit ratio Hoping to get his signature weapon!
It's a hyperbloom Cyno team, I don't think you could get any uptime on quicken with both Yelan and Xq though. So yeah, Kuki will be a better option unless you want to play Cyno
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz yep.. what i think is... if u dont get the premium team... any other team is just mid and has better variations without cyno.... but i have to say.. hes premium team is one of the best C0 team right now in the game... the dif is night and day from hes previous one, and unlike the other teams.. thats no variations that does more dmg without cyno.... and if u just get constelations for him and not the others.. it goes even further.... soo thats it... u get the premium team or u just mid all around the town... lol... just to clarify the premium is the one shown on the vid.... (CYNO, FURINA, NAHIDA, BAIZHU)
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzYou can have a completely F2P as well... I completed Floor 12 with that team... Cyno DendroMC Beidou YaoYao Heck you can use Cyno with White tassel as well... Don't hate on a character if you don't know how to play him (Oh and I don't have Baizhu Yelan etc... Cyno still works great... I use Nahida and Furina in their separate Hyperbloom team)
My team for Cyno C0R1 is Hyperbloom Team Cyno = 4pc Gladiator, DPS Nahida = 4pc Deepwood, Xingqiu = 4pc Instructor and Kuki = 4pc Gilded. I dont mind the ER problem of Cyno cuz the hyperbloom and spread from Nahida E and Kuki is way too massive that I dont even to use Cyno's burst.
Cyno is definitely underestimated, but I think that Jello Impact overestimates him. Firstly, he's never the best alternative for a team. Alhaitham is better, Yae is slightly, but better, Keqing and DPS Raiden are approximately on the same level. Secondly, his long burst animation is uncomfortable and limits the characters he can play with. Although Yae and Keqing aren't that great in hyperbloom, they still have more characters to play with, because Cyno doesn't like being in a team with Kirara, Collei, Yao Yao, Sucrose, Jean, etc., which are decent in Keqing's and Yae's teams. Additionally, he doesn't have off-field electro damage or electro application, but Yae and Raiden do. Yae can be an off-field sub-dps in Spread, aggravate, taser and other teams, and Raiden is a great hyperbloom trigger (apart from having a hyper team without dendro, taser teams, and being a nice support slot in Eula teams, and, of course, Rational). Cyno is both not the best option in any team and not a very flexible unit with limited number of characters he can play with. Basically, if you don't want Cyno just because you like him, there's no reason to pull for him, because you can pull Raiden or Yae (if you have Kuki) and gain more. Although Keqing might be a slightly less powerful unit, especially in hyperbloom, if you do have her and Kuki or Raiden, Cyno is not gonna make your results in the Abyss much higher than they can be with Keqing. They are likely to be a bit higher, but still it's not enough to justify getting a character if you don't really like Cyno's lore, gameplay, etc. Even having Keqing and Kuki almost eleviates Cyno's value for your account (meta-wise). Of course, Jello Impact doesn't say "You must pull for him!", but his perception of Cyno affects the perception of his audience, and so some people might think: "I don't really like Cyno, but Jello Impact says that he's on the same level as Hu Tao and Alhaitham, and I like playing meta and having strong teams, so I'm gonna pull for him!" And then those people will find out the truth as they get more characters: "Wait! My Yae does more damage and is more comfortable! My Alhaitham does more damage and is more comfortable! My Raiden in most of her possible teams does more damage! My Hu Tao does more damage! And all of them (except maybe Hu Tao, but I'm not sure) are more flexible than Cyno! Why did I pull for him in the first place?! Oh, yeah, because Jello Impact said that Cyno is approximately on the same level with all these characters!"
I have raiden, yae and cyno. My cyno outperform any other char on my acc. He is very strong. Raiden is bad in hyperbloom. Her burst only 6 sec, and the huge cooldown. The good thing about hyperbloom, you always has 3 strong elements that can deal with almost any content
@@teenagesilver6512 It is your account and your experience. I'm talking about the overall strength of Cyno. About the opinion of many theorycrafters, such as TGS, Zajeff and others. Abyss clears with Cyno aggravate tend to be a little bit faster than with Keqing and a little bit slower than with Yae. And his hyperbloom clears are on average slightly worse than Alhaitham's. So if you invest more or less equally into Cyno and Yae, she's usually gonna be slightly better in aggravate, same with Cyno and Alhaitham in hyperbloom: Alhaitham is a bit better. And Cyno has a lot of other disadvantages that Yae, Alhaitham and others don't which I pointed out in my previous comment. When I was talking about Raiden in hyperbloom, I was referring to her hyperbloom trigger role when she only uses her skill. And she's the best character for this role, if you don't need a healer (than Kuki might be better). Cyno is better as a hyperbloom on-fielder, that's true. Hyperbloom is great, I agree.
@@masterjedicat now I see your point, and I agree. But in Alhaitham case, he can't use furina properly. If you take furina+baizhu, you lose nahida. If you take futina+kuki, you have a bad time to stack fanfare. The main reason is in furina. I think in both best teams it's arguable. And cyno has some flexible other picks too, but it's harder to contribute. Both alhaitham and cyno are dependant on nahida. Alhaitham isn't that good without nahida, you can say cyno is good with furina + baizhu + someone else, but does it make sense..
@@teenagesilver6512 You can give Nahida Prototype Amber, and although the healing from it is not ideal, with Kuki it's not bad. And then Alhaitham's alright with Furina. He can also use Baizhu, although it's obviously not ideal. You can use Alhaitham without Nahida on a double hydro team with Xingqiu, Yelan and Kuki, but Cyno would be much worse here. And you can use Baizhu, Yao Yao or Kirara instead of Nahida, though it's worse of course, but still better than Cyno without Nahida. Cyno needs Nahida more, than Alhaitham, and he needs Baizhu/Zhongli much more, than Alhaitham. Cyno has less characters to be on the team with. Kirara, Yao Yao, Yae and possibly some other characters are not very good with Cyno, but alright with Alhaitham. And the only unit Cyno can synergize with and Alhaitham can't - is Kazuha, but even then his buff is not long enough for Cyno's burst. Sucrose and other Anemo units are quite bad with both of them.
ı have C3 Cyno and ı have enough wish to make C6 but C6 is good enough ?? is it worth it or not ? ı love her playstyle but dmg is not good enough right now
The Kuki Team works really well with Xingqiu beacause his resistance to interruption and that of cyno is so great that you don't need a shield. And Xingqiu heals, wich is important because Kuki's healing is weak.
I like Ayato's character and design better, but i have very little need for him now that I have Neuvillette. I guess I can feel good about taking some shots on the Cyno banner for Kuki.
@qwertysysysyysysysyzz that's just false, give him his proper supports(Nahida, Furina and Baizhu) and he'll kill everything in-terms of vertical investment Cyno is one of the best characters , don't use the excuse of "not f2p friendly" when f2p players can afford Hu Tao double Hydro(HuTao-Furina-Yelan-Jean) alongside her cons and weapon
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz Cyno-DMC-Yaoyao/Kirara-Fischl Do your own research first, also her vertical investment value isn't that high compared to him, u can use the f2p argument but u can't deny his vertical investment value You have to remember the primo value of a C6 4⭐ character is equal to a C0 5⭐ character so keep this in mind when you're comparing team comps
@@DamslettesSIMP that's a shitty team lmao have u used it yourself?? Because i sure have and its so trash lmfao nice try but maybe do research yourself
Dang I have two accounts, and I have Furina and Cyno but not on the same account! Don't have Baizhu or Nahida at all either. I've pulled for Nahida before, and I'll probably do it again, but Baizhu just doesn't appeal to me whatsoever. Oh and it's good to see White Tassel is his best f2p weapon, that's what he's been using for a while now. I like how the titular white tassel on it matches his hair...
i wish i’d managed to pull baizhu first. he’s not great by himself or in other comps but i tried him out with furina, they were invincible! now pair those two with raiden or cyno? oof.
My main team is Tighnari, Cyno, Nahida, and Furina, and I really like playing it. Sometimes if I want to do a Cyno rotation, I replace Nari with Zhongli since I don’t have baizhu, but I think Zhongli is more useful to my Cyno than Baizhu. Also, in the overworld I don’t use Cynos burst as much as I want to because with Nahida, Cyno kills enemies really quickly and I feel like I’m wasting his burst when I use it. Which is a shame since I love using Cynos burst because he is really fun to play in my opinion.
@@bskilla4892he does a lot of damage if you invest enough into him my cyno is currently at C2 with my dendro MC kuki and Furina. My full rotation can do more than half a million dmg
Sometimes I feel like getting an element dmg piece is way easier than getting EM :^( Also, in the first team, can I replace Furina with Xingqiu? Bcos I'm using her in other team
I started playing genshin when cyno came out. And he's the reason why i stayed. I got him on a single pull and kept playing genshin cause i want to level 90 him. Then, tried getting nahida for him. Took me 170 pulls to get nahida. Hahaha
I want to build Cyno... but I just finished getting Furina and need Baizhu on top of Cyno... I'll figure out Baizhu replacement later. I'll try for Cyno now.
Do you think Raiden is a good dps even at c0 ? I know her rerun is upon us so im thinking about an electro dps like cyno or raiden but i keep hearing about her need for c2.
They require the same investment anyone that tells you raiden is better is misinformed, they both kind of rely on their c2 and weapon for big dps spikes and do about the same dmg at c0 but Raiden is more flexible which makes her a better pull for some people. Cynos new best team with Furina was found to out dps Raidens best team he just requires investment like jello said.
Raiden is a solid DPS (and also substantially better in parties where she isn't a main-dps where as Cyno has zero spot in a party where he isn't the Carry). Even without her C2 (which is just a giant damage buff during her burst and literally nothing else), Raiden can still drive on-field during her burst while providing powerful support benefits even while swapped to other characters, and is much easier to work around than Cyno as she requires very little field time to get the most out of the burst's benefits (she only needs 5 seconds of field time to maximize the energy refund). Given that they're roughly the same in Carry capacity at similar investment, I do think Raiden is overall stronger and much more valuable as a character, if you having to choose between them.
@@luckylazaros9653nukes aren’t everything he still does more dmg per rotation y’all have terrible brain rot from seeing big ss numbers, when a sustained dps is usually better for most content(Neuvi for example the most broken character has no nuke in his kit)One big hit doesnt=better dmg just more frontload
I need help I have had him since day one and I want some teams that have him without having a dendro character because for me the only one I have is dendro traveler which this is oddly embarrassing cuz I’m ar60 needing help with teams for him lol
Actually Alhaitham can use Kuki and Baizhu at the same time. The thing is, with Alhaitham between Nahida and Furina you have to pretty much decide between one or the other. You either want Furina's buff or Nahida's. Also, if you're in multiple wave content, Nahida will be better as she has much better AOE. In single target, Alhaitham can prefer sticking to Furina, Baizhu and even Kuki or Raiden to trigger hyperblooms. If you want a pure Spread team, Triple dendro Alhaitham with Baizhu, Nahida and Raiden, Fischl or Yae as the electro is super viable.
Just use yelan and nahida instead of baizhu furina people act like furina is the bomb when yelan gives identical buffs and better hydro application and particle generation lmao
Anyone with experience with Cyno on the Marechaussee Hunter set when playing him with Furina? I've got Nahida/Baizhu/Furina and I have Thoma & Jade spear so I'm seriously considering...
I plan to use that set on him because I kinda don't want to think about any TF combos and shit like that. I'll just get Marechaussee and press skill when the eye comes up.
honestly, I love cyno my boy but I still won't forget how dirty they did him with his kit... high on field time "carry" that depends on off field application but even his best supports have some let downs with him :/ nahida in multiwaves suck w him (you can use dendro trav but no dmg + circle impact so eh) and baizhu not lasting enough to be full comfy w him in my personal experience... like don't regret pulling for him 'cause I only pulled 'cause I liked him as a character but yeah, he's definitely not a good character to pull metawise, he's also very hard to build, he wants every single stat beside HP and DEF 😃 also pain to play overworld... it's just sigh... why do they have to fumble with a teyvat trailer character so bad
I do think some people have a point that I may have been a little unclear with my power judgement of him. Yes really do I think his top team is basically just as strong as other characters top teams. But there are better options than him in those teams (yae for aggravate, alhaitham for hyperbloom). You do NOT pull Cyno for meta alone. But I still stand by that his best team belongs in the same tier and right next to if not just a bit below those other top teams.
Good power level, very low account value is what I said, but I just want to make sure I’m clear that for power level other option are usually better. But anyone who says he’s weak, or Way below those teams I don’t think is being honest either.
one underrated advantage cyno has over alhaitham is consolidating both the quicken and hyperbloom driver into 1 unit, which lets him take full advantage of furina by running baizhu alongside nahida
since alhaitham is dendro, he only has room for 1 other dendro on the team. you're not able to comfortably slot in baizhu without dropping nahida, which only leaves you with kuki for generating furina stacks
if we ever get a teamwide electro healer that can also trigger hyperblooms off-field this will change, but right now alhaitham furina teams feel incomplete
I thought your assessment was pretty balanced. Too many stop at pure account value and not the details of what their best teams are and why they’re strong ✅
To be honest I'm not pulling for Cyno only because I don't have Nahida or Raiden, and they are on some of the most premier teams that I see you have on all of your videos featuring either one or the other. Until I get both of those characters @Jello Impact my account won't feel complete even though I know you would say different because I have almost all the other characters that you have, without Nahida or Raiden my account feels like it's lacking
@@sparces alhaitham still beats cyno even if he only has yelan and not furina lmao also doesn't need baizhu to be funtional as well
Your video is really good. People just don't want to change their opinion of characters. Changing someone's mind is really hard sometimes.
Imagine a world where Noelle wasn't the only one with a burst form you could switch out of and not lose it.
Welp.. there's Diluc also..
But.. welp... Noelle is just too stronk to let the game take away her infusion when offfield
Yes a fantasy world where genshin knows how to make competent characters lmao
@@lawfulgoodnun1646they peaked with neuvilette lol
Keqing has the same thing
How powerful would Noelle be if she was anything but Geo I wonder.
Ive been using cyno religiously in abyss since his first run. No regrets. It was so satisfying using him in the second half of this abyss since there was no multiwave. Praying to finally get his c2 after losing some 50/50s. Great guide as always
Me too! 13 days left for us 😅
@@danielwirth3091 I managed to finally get c2 with my leftover furina primos lol
cyno is a character that requires a lot of planing tbh but when hes good he is really good. i wish he felt that good in overworld but using him in abyss and combat events is always fun
i use c1r1 cyno, c2 baizhu, c0 nahida, and electro/hydro depending on content
Hes bad especially in f2p department which is 80% of the community
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz That Is completely false. He can 36* the Abyss even at lower investiment with a 3* weapon and 4* supports. The only thing that he needs Is Nahida, but so do Nilou and Alhaitham, so it's not a Cyno only issue.
@@davidm0355 where's your proof then he can't 36s star abyss anymore he needs nahida baizhu furina now to even be viable atleast alhaitham got yaoyao and dmc as nahida replacement and nilou yaoyao collei works unlike cyno lmao
yeah, honestly cyno is like a character designed to fight against bosses, but ngl baizhu c2 is a good upgrade for him for more dendro appli off field
the puns from Cyno are why he's worth pulling 😏
Yes, Cyno, he know, she know, we all know
His voice lines alone r worth it I swear.
Sadly I missed the events where I could see his puns.
@@javelinmaster2 It's alright, I'm sure you'll be able to witness the General Mahahaha's punny jokes in the future should there be an event in Summer-u.
As a cyno player who pulled him on his first banner i'd like to warn all that you *REALLY* do not want to skip ER on him, all of his damage comes exclusively from his 80 energy burst and if you dont have it perfectly recharged by the end of the rotation you will wish you had pulled a different character
His ER is extremely important and i'd seriously advise getting a solid 140% ER before focusing on his damage
Another thing of note is that if you use DMC instead of nahida your ER problems are bigger
Not only because he generates less particles overall but also because his dendro app is slower and this means less consistent thundering fury skill recharges (i still lack nahida so the 140% ER is based off DMC energy generation, with nahida you will need less)
This. While he was listing his weapon options, he kinda glossed over ER ones like Skyward Spine. These aren't half bad if you don't have ER built in your artifacts.
My Cyno has like 150 ER, and it's so comfortable to be able to swap out early while still getting your burst back when you need it. It alleviates his multi wave downside.
I agree with this statement, nothing worse than finishing an abyss floor early into your burst so you didn’t get to recharge his energy. It happens so often that I don’t mind sacrificing a little damage in place of ER
You don't Really need 140% if you have Fischl ( She can Battery Cyno, Especially with Fav Bow even on C0)
Now DMC's ER will be pain (Pretty sure everyone can C6 him), Running with Sac Sword will be great since he can get more energy
For Last slot
For Hydro XQ will be his best option cuz he could focus more on ER making it possible to run him without Sac Sword
Or
Any strong Shielder or can provide Healing,DR, or IR
ahh cyno, my first 5 star that i got from my first 10 pull on the game. benched him for a long time, but now is my strongest boss killer.
I wish there was a before Furina and after Furina comparison spiral abyss
It’s not practical since so many things can cause run time variations.
It feels about 15- 20% better from all the testing I’ve done. Quite significant feeling to me.
@@JelloImpact yeah I understand, like with the pyro lectors. Thanks for replying though! Very cool. And yeah, a percentage stats opinion is fine too, thank you!
@@RecordToDeathToBoredom havent done that on spiral abyss, but i tried running him on yelan, nahida, yao yao with tenacity. it's actually very viable. though furina, nahida, and baizhu will boost your damage even further, especially if you equip baizhu with ttods and noblesse
Beidou is underrated with Cyno for mobbing content. She gives:
Interruption resistance
Damage Reduction
AoE coverage
Extra Shield for bonus survivability
100% Hyperbloom Ownership to Cyno
15% Electro Shred at C6
The ER cost is not really that much of a problem with Electro Resonance & Favge.
The thing is his team is strict, there's not much room for flexibility, Beidou could replace Nahida but then he loses a lot of bloom dmg, replace Furina then it's an aggravate team, works but not the best team for him, can't replace Baizhu though. I guess you could play Cyno Nahida(prototype amber) Xingqiu Beidou for a spin, don't know how strong though
@@naotonhan5253 you can probably run him
cyno
baizhu
xingqiu/yelan/furina
beidou
Will still be a shit team compared to actually good ones tho
@@naotonhan5253i have furina and baizhu, while i wait for nahida rerun, should i just use dendro mc? i also have c6 beidou, what would a team with cyno and her look like?
@@naotonhan5253 hi i am a new player at ar 24 and f2p, so i wanted to know is cyno beidou collei and barbra a good team ?
@@sayandas3876 it's not a good team, Collei skill can't keep up with Cyno's long burst, Barb off field hydro application is almost non existence, Beidou is compatible but kinda has a lot of ER requirement.
to be honest i don't think cyno was ever as bad as people said
Thank you for the guide. Aside from artifacts shenanigans, playing Cyno is really enjoyable and his teams are the most fun in the game for me.
Went hard to get furina, so i had 1 pull after i got her and used it for fun on beizhus banner and what should i say, ive got him. since i really enjoy my cyno and i had a lack on supporter for him, all i can say now is... HE'S BACK BABY! And thanks for the Video! Perfect timing!
I tried him for the first time in the battle event that ended a few days ago and for some reason his eye skill felt so satisfying to use. I will be pulling for Kuki on the upcoming banner, but if I accidentally get Cyno in the meantime, I wouldn't mind.
Just watched your previous Cyno guide a few minutes ago, now you're posting another one! What a coincidence! Really want the General Mahahatra but don't have the primos nor the resin. Have all his other supports as well.
NGL, i don't really want him, but i kinda wanna pull just for the 4-stars on his banner. And if i get him, pretty decent unit that i have his best team built already.
@@CjoewD good luck with that. Hope you get the four stars you want and not just get Xiangling C150.
@@CjoewD pull on ayato banner then
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz I want him even less. I got Childe already. (First 10 pull trying to get Sayu).
more like
the general mahahahahahahaha (stolen from cy-yu)
I’m really happy that Cyno finally has his place in game and started getting some love
He doesn't have a place tho? Lmao
QB alhaitham is better
Aggravate keking is better
Hyperbloom raiden is better
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz hello there mr hater. Once again you comment bs under this video.
To everyone else reading this reply - this dude literally replies under every comment here. Don’t pay attention to him. You certainly have better things to do😉
Peace ✌️
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzstop inhaling copium with ur weakhaitham lmao
@@santabakure6264thank you for your consideration kind stranger 👑
@@santabakure6264 cry about it more you weakling,you can't even prove anything
I started as a Razor main until Cyno came out and then pulled him. I've loved playing his teams since! It started with Cyno/Xingqiu/Collei/Kuki, and then Cyno/XQ/Nahida/Kuki. Baizhu replaced Kuki. I sometimes use Fischl over Xingqiu when facing things like Oceanid. Now that Furina is out, I plan on adding her in to make the team you mentioned in your video.
He's not the best in overworld just due to him being burst focused, but you did mention that.
I don't have any five star polearms and currently have him on R1 Ballad of the Fjords. Not sure yet if I want to try to go for his weapon or not this patch.
finally a helpful video, I kept wondering what I should do without Nahida and wondering whether the new battle pass weapon would be good
I LOVEE your vids!!!
OK I got the picture, next I will aim to get baizu and cyno
Thundering Fury really helps with Cyno's ER requirements and can easily reach higher damage totals in longer rotations compared to Guilded. You do have to be careful with your E timings cause from the third off-beat E onwards, Thundering Fury's cooldown reduction timing won't match with his Endseer passive. So basically after your 3rd Eyeseer skill, you have to wait even if your cooldown has reset, after which you can go back to spamming your skill off-cooldown.
Also TF is overall more fun lol
is it really that good? I just got cyno & am hesitant to try TF since it sounds more complicated and less braindead, and i've been farming Deepwood/Gilded already, but you make it sound tempting. Maybe i will try later if i have extra resin to burn, haha.
Hard disagree on "Enguffing Lighting not good on him because he doesn't want the ER"
Cyno is very energy hungry
Engulfing not only help his energy problems, it's also reward him for doing so by converting ER to Atk buff
I managed to pull c0 Baizhu, Furina, and now Cyno today, but they're not very well built yet. No Nahida though. I've got Cyno on moonpiercer, but since every time I look up what's good for him everyone says something different, so moonpiercer he stays for now. Either way, good damage or not, I'm just happy to have him. I'm one step closer to collecting the Sumeru boys now!
I like Cyno and I tried to play him in so many different ways. I have pretty much every character important to his comps, and at the end of the day I had to put an ER artifact on him to make sure he always has his burst ready.
His hyperbloom or quickbloom team are so much harder to play compared to the others.
If you play him in a quickbloom with Furina Nahida and Baizhou with a ER artifact, he's pretty viable and you won't lose that much EM thanks to Nahida.
If you use thundering furry, he won't have er issues,why? Because he does like 12 elemental skills plus with TF. Each one generating 1 or 2 particles.
Finally some love for the General of Sands ❤
After the snub that he was done collectively by the community after his release, seeing this quality guide warms this Cyno main's soul. About the ER requirements, I'm running him with 4p GD and 146%, and he runs smoothly with other electros. However, in his Furina team (which I like to call Divine Justice) I have both her and Baizhu on fav to make them all work well, and even then there's been some moments where I'm still a bit short for his burst. It's definitely worth it, but just saying that non-TF Cynos might still struggle sometimes even with your threshold. Depends on the content, of course, as mob content gives more particles and it's not an issue there. I'd say 140s-150s is your minimum to feel more sure.
Also, I've had a lot of fun and comfiness with Kuki as his healer and battery even if she steals a lot of hyperbloom pops (but that's not a problem since she normally has higher EM and stronger pop damage than him, even mine who wears tenacity in his team does a couple more k's)
What is ur build? If kuki is giving more dmg on hyperbloom I think ur cyno is low on em...
just finally got baizhu yesterday, can't wait to build and use his best team
Ive been having alot of fun playing Cyno with Zhongli, Beidou and Nahida. This team is quite fun. As for Hyperbloom i use him with Nahida yelan and kuki for the healing(kuki can be replaced for Beidou)
I'm a proud cyno main since release and I can assure you if you have baizhu and furina that shit is incredible, evrything dies instantly. (though bhaizhu and xinqui or yelan are also very good options if you don't have furina)
I pulled for him this banner because I like his character and know that I don't mind the longer rotation (I find quickswap annoying sometimes with my keyboard layout actually). I had a built Nahida, Fischl, and Kokomi already so knew I already had a pretty good team to slot him in to. Also already had a Deathmatch back from my non-f2p days lol.
I only have him to level 60 atm (I hate farming the scarabs lol) but even now with very less than optimal artifacts he's still very quickly tearing through WL 8 enemies. I'm excited to see what I can do with him in abyss once I get him built a bit more. And he's just really fun to play.
The way I have every character in the list EXCEPT baizhu 😭😭😭😭 guess I'll try out the yelan/nahida comp, thanks for the list!
@JelloImpact Could you make a best "unga bunga" teams guide? I am a pretty casual player and I love your guides on teams that do not require "sweaty" gameplay.
Remind me for next ask jello.
Yoimiya or wanderer with zhongli
As I Cyno enjoyer, not gonna lie, I personally found new love for him when I started to play him in a Quickbloom comp that consists of: Cyno, Fishl/Beidou (depends on the enemies but mainly Fishl), Prototype Amber Nahida and Xingqiu. Resistance to interuption from XQ, healing from his swords and also Prototype, makes the team relatively safe, and the dmg this team makes is off the charts. Not sure if this team is mathematicly correct and for sure it has less overall dps then the Furina Cyno Quickbloom, but this team is unexpectedly comfy :)
this is exactly what im planning to do!! i accidentally got cyno a while ago (2.X? idk) and i really regretted it but since nahida might rerun soon im waiting for her and doing this team!!
I'm looking forward to Cyno. He's been kinda fun in the trials I've gotten to play him in so far (his story quest, the recent event) but all of them had pretty sus builds. Knowing he just gets better with proper investment is great. Thanks for the video.
I feel like the only problem is pulling for Cyno feels almost like it comes with a Nahida requirement, his best non-Nahida teams seem... mildly cope? People talk about Furina/Baizhu/Dendro MC but I've only ever really seen it be successful when the other 3 units have enough investment the 4th could be anyone and it would work. I just about laughed when I saw a promising Baizhu/Xingqiu/Thoma team in your video... only for you to dash my dreams by saying it should be Nahida, lmao.
You can use yao yao no? Or Get nahida before or after u get him.
To be honest, nahida is the best character in the game by a mile, she's almost required for any dendro team to be fully utilized
@@putent9623you can but dendro MC is better but if you have Nahida she will be better
7:46 You can just replace Kazuha; with Nahida, and give her the Prototype Amber; for some healing, and Insane Damage for Cyno, and Beidou.
4:46 I think you can replace Fischl with Beidou in Quicken (or even in Quickbloom instead of second Dendro if you're feeling confident)
Cant wait for the Ayato guide 😊
Here's the guide:
Step 1 - Get Neuvillette instead.
I actually think Cyno could potentially get better due to the upcoming Natlan region. We've learned that the new character(I'm not even gonna attempt to spell her name) is based off of Overload reactions, and apparently she is going to be absolutely insane times infinity for those, and we will definitely get more characters in the future for that reaction, so I think that Cyno could potentially have a better Overload team in the future. Overload is scaled on EM, after all. At the very least, I think overload teams could become a viable team for Cyno
We’re you referring to Chevreuse? Because if you did she limits the team to Pyro and Electro only which means giving up on Dendro reactions.
I think she is great but for other units that can focus on Overload better than Cyno can. There aren’t many great off field pyro units that last as long as Cyno wants. Maybe Xiangling with constellations. But then you have 2 energy black holes on the team
@ThePenguinsKing Yeah, after playing with her I realize she isn't great with Cyno. But... my statement still stands that he could get buffed further and overload becomes viable with him as Natlan characters come out!
10:00 I think that Kitain Cross Spear is his best Weapon after his SIG; because it gives very HIGH ER%, which’s what needed to Cyno; because his best teams are without a secend Electro character, which will increase his neediness to ER%, such as teams as: Cyno Chaos, Cyno Quickbloom with Furina. Also for: Cyno, Yelan, Zhongli, and Nahida.
He doesn't need THAT much ER
Just put an electro battery with him like fischl white tassel is better than any F2P weapon since his ult is NA but infused with electro and gives good crit rate
From the damage calcs I've done and seen gilded dreams only slightly edges out thundering fury in terms of rotational damage by about 2% with medium investment. . However once you consider Soss and put him in hyperbloom teams, both of which benefit from having high base em the difference becomes much bigger as jello basically said.
Thundering fury allows for no er% builds making it better tho, also bring able to spam skill more
If you use Hyperbloom, you can use him with Furina and run the Marechesesuruserss Hunter set
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzi personally had Cyno since his 1st rerun... Used him both with TF and Gilded sets...
I would say TF is better if you don't have his signature weapon...
But if you have Staff of Scarlett Sands... Gilded Dreams definitely better... Because of his EM scaling and how the weapon gives bonus attack based on EM...
And in aggravate/Hyperbloom teams/taser teams... More EM is generally better...
And if you run Cyno with electro resonance... You can get away with 120% er for his energy requirements...
I never face energy problems when playing Cyno
@@mpr12 yeah but that 20% er could have been em instead 20% er is equal to 80 EM , you also are able to run double dendro by then which is another 100 EM , along with 4pc tf which increases electro based reaction by about 80 EM,
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz as I said... I already tried Cyno with both sets since long... And what I said is general case scenario... At the end of day... It's upto you... And which artifacts have better substats lol... Both sets just work fine on him... And one is better than other in different scenarios so yeah
Honestly I pulled Cyno on accident and the cost was minimal but seeing his potential, I wanted to commit by getting his weapon (which I did too) and that commitment is beginning to pay off
Did you try him without the weapon because I'm also considering getting it too
I had for sometime but once the weapon was put on, I haven’t taken it off
I got furina but don’t have the primos for baizhu. There’s no cyno team without cyno after all xdd had to leave someone behind. I’ve been using yaoyao with furina and it doesn’t feel bad at all and I’m not really into the meta stuff so maybe my expectations aren’t as high. Anyway i’ll try out the comp with furina and Yaoyao instead of baizhu and hopefully it works well 😊
I love Cyno, even before Furin, his best team was Xinchou, Baizhu, Nahida, and the team is extremely good. Now I have Cyno C2 already, and his weapon. But perhaps I'll pull for C3-4
Yeah he’s another “want” character, which you’ll only pull if you like his character, which is the case for me😂 I liked the team sections since i get to see the pros and cons of using him in a specific team.
I was pulling for Lynet signature and got Arlecchino weapon. My Cyno is getting reborn
so interesting question u said the ER sands was to much er for him with that being said it is easier to not having to use a secondary electro unit, current team i have since i dont have furina is cyno, fischl, kazuha, and biazhu.. was wondering with the ER sands i could swap out fischl for Xinqiu
Amazing guide! If possible, would you be able to do a similar guide on Ayato? I'm torn between pulling for him or Cyno...I like them both equally and am trying to decide which one to pull for !
Yup it will be posted tonight most likely if not tomorrow
@@JelloImpact Thank you so much! About to go watch it now!
I used cyno in a furina team with 3 other hydro and got a perfect abyss clear.
So personally as a C2R1 Cyno haver, I still prefer to use Thundering Fury, to be able to use more skills during his burst. I'm not good enough to maximise them, but I still manage to fit always one and sometimes two extra skills. The extra energy helps with his needs as it's something I've been struggling with. I would probably need to get a bit more ER in general but.. eh.. it is what it is.
Ye tf is more damage and energy
What are your thoughts on Cyno with Furina, Sucrose, & Barbara? Cyno is strong with Furina, Sucrose adds grouping and EM nonsense, and Barbara is a full heal for Furina, a heal for Cyno while his burst is up, and extra HP for Furina's DPS. I don't own Kazuha or Kokomi, and figured this comp seemed pretty solid.
17:05 That combo is only can be used in his Aggravate teams. The better combo with his Quickbloom team, is: Skill (off Burst), Skill (in the Burst State), Skill, (Eye Skill), Skill, (Eye Skill), Skill, (Eye Skill), skill, (Eye Skill)……. Until you Burst is off. In short, use his skill, whenever you get your Skill back, in Thundering Fury; with his Quickbloom Teams. 👍
I can even squeeze in 2E before the Eye skill if I have good ping 😂, so at the start it's like E-Q-E-E-E (Eye skill), then you have to slow down the 2nd round or you'll miss the eye, the 3rd round could be the same with 2Es. Kinda hard to follow through so basically I also just spam his E off cd😂
yep... thats true... i stoped using thundering fury since i got a cracked guilded dream set i was farming for alhaithan.... but when i was using TF with cyno i was just unga bunga all the time spaming E and pretty much always sinc up with the eye.... it was REALLY rare to messed up
I got Cyno accidentaly on his first banner, but at that time only traveler could provide him a good Dendro application, i still love his gameplay tho. Not a long ago i got him C2 and Signature, he absolutely destroys Hydro Tulpa in Abyss with almost no help! I am going for Nahida firstly for him( and secondly for Tighnari and Yae). Now his teams has more flexibility, you can use Yao Yao or Kirara as a 4* supports, Furina or Yelan\Xingqiu for hyperbloom and so on. Of course he may be more expensive and he really want Nahida for comfortable gameplay but it's always player decision to pull or not.
I hate that I don’t have nahida and baizhu. I still make him work with dendro mc, fischl, and a sustain character. It helps that I’ve got him c2, I don’t have many pulls left after arlechinno but I’m gonna be using them on baizhu so I can run fischl, furina, and baizhu with my Cyno
I'll probably use 1 anemo character on my Cyno team. So it's Cyno, Nahida, Furina, Jean/Sayu. I feel like the anemo shred helps
Bro, I still can't see any f2p team for cyno😢
I got cyno so I'm here.at first, I regret getting him since I'm pretty sure I will not get a banner character since I got 3 times in a row (hutao, furina, baizhu). but somehow I can accept now since I got all the characters for his best team but after I finished build baizhu and furina
My cyno is in a team with Kokumi ,Nahida and Kazuha. Works well for me.
Cyno having a top tier team is great, but that also just adds more to one of his problems that I dread which is it feels bad to play in overworld. With Nahida, Furina, Baizhu, you might as well be playing 3 characters in the overworld cause enemies die before he even comes up.
Why would you care abt playing a top tier team in overworld?
All I do in overworld is just use Baizhu only then Cynos burst because Furina and nahida are overkill against easier enemies. Just make sure you give them more er in overworld situations
My plan is cyno mayonese hunter, furina, jean, and fishl, i dont know if it will be strong enough, but i will try
Nahida, baizhu/zhongly and fischl is very powerful too. Actually my favorite before golden troupe and fischl is even more op now. Just stay until a sec after her bird dissapear and you are good
I feel thundering fury is overall the best set imo. Specially at high investment since cyno shreds hard so you need to balance er far more. More power=harder balancing act with er
Another thing, just because he can stay onfield till the end of time.doesn't mean you want to. If your supports rotate quicker he got the option to do so just fine as his dmg doesn't change depending on when you finish as long as you get to the eye proc
@Fairy-Uvinq, though Golden Troup is amazing I'd rather use 4pce tenacity for the constant 20% with the Elegy.
@@shatie_geo_main9118 the difference in dmg is huge thou and cyno doesn't benefit as much from atk% and neither does nahida so yeah...
@Fairy-Uvinq he benefits from both atk and em. U wanna balance out the two. Also, the reason why I suggested fishcl on tenacity is u wanna use her as a support. Yes, Golden Troup on her will make her deal some nice dmg, but with tenacity, it buffs the entire team including nahida. Also nahida's e-kill scales from atk&em. Golden Troup doesn't buff cyno nor the team only its wielders dmg, whereas tenacity buffs everyone. Just some food for thought.🙂
So... i dont got nahida or baizu...
Can i even use cyno at this point? (got yaoyao, and a kirara c6 -.-)
Is there a non dendro build for him?
My first ever 5* was Cyno(lvl 90), hes curently using a favonius lance (lvl 80), my current team is Cyno(90), Baizhu(90), Xingqiu(80), Alhaitham(80) and its actually pretty strong if you use everyone's bursts first
I have Furina, Cyno, and Nahida but I wasn’t able to get Baizhu so I really don’t know what to do with him. I didn’t really want Cyno since I was planning to save for Yoimiya and I wasn’t guaranteed but I’m trying my best to use him anyway. I hope Baizhu is rerun soon though since I really need him with Furina
Cyno + Xq + Yelan + Nahida (prototype amber)
EM EM CritDmg (900 EM inside Nahida's burst)
TF 4pc + Deathmatch with 72%/224% crit ratio
Hoping to get his signature weapon!
What is this copium team lmfao
It's a hyperbloom Cyno team, I don't think you could get any uptime on quicken with both Yelan and Xq though. So yeah, Kuki will be a better option unless you want to play Cyno
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz yep.. what i think is... if u dont get the premium team... any other team is just mid and has better variations without cyno.... but i have to say.. hes premium team is one of the best C0 team right now in the game... the dif is night and day from hes previous one, and unlike the other teams.. thats no variations that does more dmg without cyno.... and if u just get constelations for him and not the others.. it goes even further.... soo thats it... u get the premium team or u just mid all around the town... lol... just to clarify the premium is the one shown on the vid.... (CYNO, FURINA, NAHIDA, BAIZHU)
I haven’t actually played since his release, what exactly does hyper bloom and quicken do? Is he still viable as a taser with Xingqiu?
Could Cyno be good with Chevreuse in an overload team ?
I also think Cyno is very underrated, he may not be the best pull for your dps but sometimes i think some persons take too far.
He's mid at best trash if u don't got furina or yelan or baizhu and especially dogsht without nahida
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz What's your point of he needs another 3 another characters? So do every character.
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzYou can have a completely F2P as well... I completed Floor 12 with that team...
Cyno DendroMC Beidou YaoYao
Heck you can use Cyno with White tassel as well...
Don't hate on a character if you don't know how to play him
(Oh and I don't have Baizhu Yelan etc... Cyno still works great... I use Nahida and Furina in their separate Hyperbloom team)
@@guilhermeferreiraherrera9629 alhaitham only needs kuki, hu tao only needs xingqiu, neuvilette can solo , cyno cant do shit
@@mpr12 lol where's your proof then record your gameplay or else everything you say is cap
My team for Cyno C0R1 is Hyperbloom Team
Cyno = 4pc Gladiator, DPS Nahida = 4pc Deepwood, Xingqiu = 4pc Instructor and Kuki = 4pc Gilded. I dont mind the ER problem of Cyno cuz the hyperbloom and spread from Nahida E and Kuki is way too massive that I dont even to use Cyno's burst.
Cyno is definitely underestimated, but I think that Jello Impact overestimates him. Firstly, he's never the best alternative for a team. Alhaitham is better, Yae is slightly, but better, Keqing and DPS Raiden are approximately on the same level. Secondly, his long burst animation is uncomfortable and limits the characters he can play with. Although Yae and Keqing aren't that great in hyperbloom, they still have more characters to play with, because Cyno doesn't like being in a team with Kirara, Collei, Yao Yao, Sucrose, Jean, etc., which are decent in Keqing's and Yae's teams. Additionally, he doesn't have off-field electro damage or electro application, but Yae and Raiden do. Yae can be an off-field sub-dps in Spread, aggravate, taser and other teams, and Raiden is a great hyperbloom trigger (apart from having a hyper team without dendro, taser teams, and being a nice support slot in Eula teams, and, of course, Rational).
Cyno is both not the best option in any team and not a very flexible unit with limited number of characters he can play with.
Basically, if you don't want Cyno just because you like him, there's no reason to pull for him, because you can pull Raiden or Yae (if you have Kuki) and gain more. Although Keqing might be a slightly less powerful unit, especially in hyperbloom, if you do have her and Kuki or Raiden, Cyno is not gonna make your results in the Abyss much higher than they can be with Keqing. They are likely to be a bit higher, but still it's not enough to justify getting a character if you don't really like Cyno's lore, gameplay, etc.
Even having Keqing and Kuki almost eleviates Cyno's value for your account (meta-wise).
Of course, Jello Impact doesn't say "You must pull for him!", but his perception of Cyno affects the perception of his audience, and so some people might think: "I don't really like Cyno, but Jello Impact says that he's on the same level as Hu Tao and Alhaitham, and I like playing meta and having strong teams, so I'm gonna pull for him!" And then those people will find out the truth as they get more characters: "Wait! My Yae does more damage and is more comfortable! My Alhaitham does more damage and is more comfortable! My Raiden in most of her possible teams does more damage! My Hu Tao does more damage! And all of them (except maybe Hu Tao, but I'm not sure) are more flexible than Cyno! Why did I pull for him in the first place?! Oh, yeah, because Jello Impact said that Cyno is approximately on the same level with all these characters!"
I have raiden, yae and cyno. My cyno outperform any other char on my acc. He is very strong. Raiden is bad in hyperbloom. Her burst only 6 sec, and the huge cooldown. The good thing about hyperbloom, you always has 3 strong elements that can deal with almost any content
@@teenagesilver6512 It is your account and your experience. I'm talking about the overall strength of Cyno. About the opinion of many theorycrafters, such as TGS, Zajeff and others. Abyss clears with Cyno aggravate tend to be a little bit faster than with Keqing and a little bit slower than with Yae. And his hyperbloom clears are on average slightly worse than Alhaitham's. So if you invest more or less equally into Cyno and Yae, she's usually gonna be slightly better in aggravate, same with Cyno and Alhaitham in hyperbloom: Alhaitham is a bit better. And Cyno has a lot of other disadvantages that Yae, Alhaitham and others don't which I pointed out in my previous comment. When I was talking about Raiden in hyperbloom, I was referring to her hyperbloom trigger role when she only uses her skill. And she's the best character for this role, if you don't need a healer (than Kuki might be better). Cyno is better as a hyperbloom on-fielder, that's true. Hyperbloom is great, I agree.
@@masterjedicat now I see your point, and I agree. But in Alhaitham case, he can't use furina properly. If you take furina+baizhu, you lose nahida. If you take futina+kuki, you have a bad time to stack fanfare. The main reason is in furina. I think in both best teams it's arguable. And cyno has some flexible other picks too, but it's harder to contribute. Both alhaitham and cyno are dependant on nahida. Alhaitham isn't that good without nahida, you can say cyno is good with furina + baizhu + someone else, but does it make sense..
@@teenagesilver6512 You can give Nahida Prototype Amber, and although the healing from it is not ideal, with Kuki it's not bad. And then Alhaitham's alright with Furina. He can also use Baizhu, although it's obviously not ideal.
You can use Alhaitham without Nahida on a double hydro team with Xingqiu, Yelan and Kuki, but Cyno would be much worse here. And you can use Baizhu, Yao Yao or Kirara instead of Nahida, though it's worse of course, but still better than Cyno without Nahida. Cyno needs Nahida more, than Alhaitham, and he needs Baizhu/Zhongli much more, than Alhaitham. Cyno has less characters to be on the team with. Kirara, Yao Yao, Yae and possibly some other characters are not very good with Cyno, but alright with Alhaitham. And the only unit Cyno can synergize with and Alhaitham can't - is Kazuha, but even then his buff is not long enough for Cyno's burst. Sucrose and other Anemo units are quite bad with both of them.
@@teenagesilver6512 you just suck at playing then lmao cyno doesnt even come close to Raiden hyperbloom
ı have C3 Cyno and ı have enough wish to make C6 but C6 is good enough ?? is it worth it or not ? ı love her playstyle but dmg is not good enough right now
The Kuki Team works really well with Xingqiu beacause his resistance to interruption and that of cyno is so great that you don't need a shield. And Xingqiu heals, wich is important because Kuki's healing is weak.
I like Ayato's character and design better, but i have very little need for him now that I have Neuvillette. I guess I can feel good about taking some shots on the Cyno banner for Kuki.
Better still try for ayato instead of cyno who will literally give your account negative value
@qwertysysysyysysysyzz that's just false, give him his proper supports(Nahida, Furina and Baizhu) and he'll kill everything
in-terms of vertical investment Cyno is one of the best characters , don't use the excuse of "not f2p friendly" when f2p players can afford Hu Tao double Hydro(HuTao-Furina-Yelan-Jean) alongside her cons and weapon
@@DamslettesSIMP guess what hu tao got options , even as f2p cyno doesnt lmao, his best is on the level of hu tao's mideocre team
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz Cyno-DMC-Yaoyao/Kirara-Fischl
Do your own research first, also her vertical investment value isn't that high compared to him, u can use the f2p argument but u can't deny his vertical investment value
You have to remember the primo value of a C6 4⭐ character is equal to a C0 5⭐ character so keep this in mind when you're comparing team comps
@@DamslettesSIMP that's a shitty team lmao have u used it yourself?? Because i sure have and its so trash lmfao nice try but maybe do research yourself
nice
Is it a better alternative to use Raiden instead of Fischl for Cyno team comps or nah?
I wish he was off field so i can play Alhaitham, Kaveh, Cyno and Tighnari. I know it doesn't work but it would be amazing if it did
Dang I have two accounts, and I have Furina and Cyno but not on the same account! Don't have Baizhu or Nahida at all either. I've pulled for Nahida before, and I'll probably do it again, but Baizhu just doesn't appeal to me whatsoever.
Oh and it's good to see White Tassel is his best f2p weapon, that's what he's been using for a while now. I like how the titular white tassel on it matches his hair...
i wish i’d managed to pull baizhu first. he’s not great by himself or in other comps but i tried him out with furina, they were invincible! now pair those two with raiden or cyno? oof.
being the only brown boy 5 star in game. I really2x like him my only wish is that his burst wouldn't end if i swap him out, just like razor
My main team is Tighnari, Cyno, Nahida, and Furina, and I really like playing it. Sometimes if I want to do a Cyno rotation, I replace Nari with Zhongli since I don’t have baizhu, but I think Zhongli is more useful to my Cyno than Baizhu. Also, in the overworld I don’t use Cynos burst as much as I want to because with Nahida, Cyno kills enemies really quickly and I feel like I’m wasting his burst when I use it. Which is a shame since I love using Cynos burst because he is really fun to play in my opinion.
I assure you anyone who summoned for him did not or does not regret it.
I regret it. He takes up a lot of resources and has very strict team comps. You can do so much more with other characters.
@@bskilla4892he does a lot of damage if you invest enough into him my cyno is currently at C2 with my dendro MC kuki and Furina. My full rotation can do more than half a million dmg
I dont got furina yet and even if i get her shes going to my xiao so should i just put yelan in her place?
If you know tell me because if it is yes this will help me alot
I already whaled hard for Furina so I don't really have much left for Cy yu- I mean Cyno......
Just hoping that saving for Navia is worth it.....
I play cyno,furina ,nahida and jean... With kitan cross spear for cyno... Not the best but works
Sometimes I feel like getting an element dmg piece is way easier than getting EM :^(
Also, in the first team, can I replace Furina with Xingqiu? Bcos I'm using her in other team
If you do it wont be quickbloom cause xingqiu applies a lot of hydro
I started playing genshin when cyno came out. And he's the reason why i stayed. I got him on a single pull and kept playing genshin cause i want to level 90 him. Then, tried getting nahida for him. Took me 170 pulls to get nahida. Hahaha
I Love his play style. I have Cyno on my 2nd acc. He just need Ult like Noel.
I want to build Cyno... but I just finished getting Furina and need Baizhu on top of Cyno... I'll figure out Baizhu replacement later. I'll try for Cyno now.
Yao Yao is a decent replacement
@@meisterhyperion207 She's what I might use. Maybe Kokomi.
@@joshsolders5543 kokomi would probably be better than yaoyao
Do you think Raiden is a good dps even at c0 ? I know her rerun is upon us so im thinking about an electro dps like cyno or raiden but i keep hearing about her need for c2.
Yeah she is great in national team and hyperbloom proc
They require the same investment anyone that tells you raiden is better is misinformed, they both kind of rely on their c2 and weapon for big dps spikes and do about the same dmg at c0 but Raiden is more flexible which makes her a better pull for some people. Cynos new best team with Furina was found to out dps Raidens best team he just requires investment like jello said.
Raiden is a solid DPS (and also substantially better in parties where she isn't a main-dps where as Cyno has zero spot in a party where he isn't the Carry). Even without her C2 (which is just a giant damage buff during her burst and literally nothing else), Raiden can still drive on-field during her burst while providing powerful support benefits even while swapped to other characters, and is much easier to work around than Cyno as she requires very little field time to get the most out of the burst's benefits (she only needs 5 seconds of field time to maximize the energy refund).
Given that they're roughly the same in Carry capacity at similar investment, I do think Raiden is overall stronger and much more valuable as a character, if you having to choose between them.
@@Marz333Raiden is more valuable and she has a nuke (even at C0) unlike Cyno.
@@luckylazaros9653nukes aren’t everything he still does more dmg per rotation y’all have terrible brain rot from seeing big ss numbers, when a sustained dps is usually better for most content(Neuvi for example the most broken character has no nuke in his kit)One big hit doesnt=better dmg just more frontload
So, how much ER is necessary with Gilded Dreams?
My cyno deals 16k per attack is that good enough?
I need help I have had him since day one and I want some teams that have him without having a dendro character because for me the only one I have is dendro traveler which this is oddly embarrassing cuz I’m ar60 needing help with teams for him lol
Dendro is literally his lifeline without dendro he is worse than xinyan or a on field c0 3 star bow yelan
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz to be fair I’ve seen Yelan with the 3 star hp bow go crazy
@@clgillit1125 but not good enough to be a good abyss clearing team, its just for dmg showcases
Yeah, he feels really bad out of his premium team. You could get away without Furina but without Baizhu and Nahida, just play another hypercarry 😂
Actually Alhaitham can use Kuki and Baizhu at the same time. The thing is, with Alhaitham between Nahida and Furina you have to pretty much decide between one or the other. You either want Furina's buff or Nahida's. Also, if you're in multiple wave content, Nahida will be better as she has much better AOE. In single target, Alhaitham can prefer sticking to Furina, Baizhu and even Kuki or Raiden to trigger hyperblooms. If you want a pure Spread team, Triple dendro Alhaitham with Baizhu, Nahida and Raiden, Fischl or Yae as the electro is super viable.
Just use yelan and nahida instead of baizhu furina people act like furina is the bomb when yelan gives identical buffs and better hydro application and particle generation lmao
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz hahahaha yeah right 👍👍👍
Now we wait for Ayato lol
he would be a good charater if his burst dont run out after swaping charater like old charaters idk why they decided to do this
Or at least refund his energy like Razor. He's such a strong and fun character, to be limited by that burst is a shame.
they started with klee lmao and never stopped since
Is jean good option to replace baizhu?
Right up their with Raiden? I don't know about that.
This man forgot that Xingqiu exists (for the hydro slot)
The true hydro archon, been carrying teams since 2020
On a paper Cyno is solid unit but in other way all electro units with Furina , Nahida and Baizhu gonna do the job.
Can this team work:cyno ,kirara ,Xingqiu, and dendro traveler.
Anyone with experience with Cyno on the Marechaussee Hunter set when playing him with Furina?
I've got Nahida/Baizhu/Furina and I have Thoma & Jade spear so I'm seriously considering...
It works pretty well good from my experience and the pieces weren’t that good either, it’s mainly good if you don’t have his signature weapon
I plan to use that set on him because I kinda don't want to think about any TF combos and shit like that. I'll just get Marechaussee and press skill when the eye comes up.
@@thechocowizard yea same here. Cant wait
honestly, I love cyno my boy but I still won't forget how dirty they did him with his kit... high on field time "carry" that depends on off field application but even his best supports have some let downs with him :/ nahida in multiwaves suck w him (you can use dendro trav but no dmg + circle impact so eh) and baizhu not lasting enough to be full comfy w him in my personal experience... like don't regret pulling for him 'cause I only pulled 'cause I liked him as a character but yeah, he's definitely not a good character to pull metawise, he's also very hard to build, he wants every single stat beside HP and DEF 😃 also pain to play overworld... it's just sigh... why do they have to fumble with a teyvat trailer character so bad
same feelings.. if only cyno didn't lose his burst while switching, just like noel... Why HOYO
@@teenagesilver6512 TRUEEE, honestly I would even like if his infusion was on skill, but still won't stop me from using that for sure