@@hoimoitoigoi PURELY K is one of the biggest Karaoke brands in China. What Jiao said is the irony of the group’s K member proportion (the group is made of purely k)
ikr i was soo pissed how come wen zhe who can rap dance fu yaning who literally got called an all rounder su ruiqi who can sing like a beauty but no instead huening BYEhyyh called called im not stanning this Ke1per group
@@heluhdatzaza IKR!! at least support Hikaru, Mashiro, and Xiaoting because that’s what I’m doing. 1 Korean vote equals to 10 votes, and the single voting system put the foreign trainees at a huge disadvantage. Even the criticism they get wasn’t fair at all. The show was rigged, and we all know it.
@@heluhdatzaza if it's not for Xiaoting I won't support the group for sure...really sorry to say that since I voted for her everyday but at this point I would have preferred her out from the top 9 and directly ignoring "Kep1er". But since she is in... I will try to listen to their songs and if their music is my cup of tea then I'll consider to stan.
@@bubblyladyg4387 who gave no screentime and gave a lot of evil edit towards chinese trainees?, do you think that doesn't affect who is going to be voted by the audience? XD
I think they should’ve just done open voting instead k vote solely accounting 50% of the total votes… maybe that would have helped, but in the end it’s a kpop group and they’re going to market towards Koreans 🤷🏽♀️
When the candidates for the top1 and top2 places were announced I lost all hope for Yaning and SuRuiqi The Chinese girls deserved so much better 😭 and Xiaoting will be all alone now by herself with no c-girls I hope she'll be okay
@@q_q123 it also has to do with koreans hating chinese members, k votes had 50% weightage, so ofc k members will rank higher. most korean people didnt vote for chinese trainees. but mnet evil edited chinese trainees which was wrong.
Yup... when I saw Hikaru on P7, I thought Xiaoting would be top 5, for sure, but they kept on calling K trainees. When they said Xiaoting, Suyeon and Myah were candidates for P9, I almost closed my laptop becase wtf...
It seems like Liang Jiao wants to cry, I mean, c-group has been through a lot, from evil editing to staff discrimination. And they endured all of that just for one of them to make it? It's totally unfair, I can imagine how disappointed Shen Xiaoting must have been too.😭
Ikr, thats what I thought too:"( At this point Imma just be a xiaoting solo stan. She deserves sm better than this. If only another Ctrainee debuted with her, she would be less likely to feel loneliness...
Once Yeseo was called i knew it would be only Koreans ahead of her. Its was an terrible move by Mnet to change the voting system at the final. It was suppose to be an Global Girl Group but at the end it wasn't. TWICE has more non-k than Kep1er.
They never changed anything. The ratio of k votes to global votes was always the same and we all agreed it made sense as it is a K-pop group. The cell system and the 3:3:3 forced voting was hated, as was the 1:1:1 voting. One pick is the only fair voting as it doesn’t force you to vote on a nationality. The C trainees didn’t get there because people didn’t like them as much as other contestants, and that’s literally the point of the show. Mnet didn’t do anything wrong. Whatever they do, people will hate. They rig? Haaaate. They don’t rig? Hate, they should’ve, we hate the lineup. They force you to vote for C and J trainees? Hate, we should vote on who we want on skill, not nationality. They lift the restriction? Hate, the ones you wanted didn’t win, so they should force us to vote for them so they win. Come on.
@@PiggiesInTheRain I mean also the weightng is 50% korean votes, 50% international which doesn't help the non-korean trainees since koreans prioritize koreans only.
@@PiggiesInTheRain of course the voting system was a disaster, Mnet wanted a global group and ends with that... Look at how Koreans voted : if they had chosen alone, the 9 would be Koreans lol
@@PiggiesInTheRain I agree that i believe it wasn't rigged, but the 50% international 50% korea made the 3:3:3 and 1:1:1 system doomed from the start because its been said time and time again korean will vote for korean. International fans also like the Korean trainees so they get votes in that demographic aswell but when it comes to the 50% Korean voting the C and J trainees are at a disadvantage.
The 1:1:1 was very good in the porpoise of creating a global GG... And the 50/50 votes favorites the Koreans sooooo much.. keep in mind that 1 K-vote equals to 8/9 Non-K votes.
How were u expecting Xiaoting to debut on a very high rank when she ranked 16th in interim ranking??? And k trainees 1 pick fanbase are huge. Especially BAHIYYIH had the most strongest and biggest 1 pick fanbase since the beginning.
@G-Taehyung i don’t think people are upset that not everyone can debut. that wasn’t the issue. it was them selling us on this idea that it would be a 3-3-3 GG. or at least a GG that didn’t have an overwhelming amount of K group girls. to give SXT 1st place every single week and then have her take 9th and have no other C trainees debut felt like they just used the “global” theme to pull in fans and votes and use them. like why include the japanese and chinese girls at all if they were just going to debut korean girls? they should’ve just kept it a korean show instead of dragging them all into it and giving them the hopes to debut, and evil editing everyone but the K trainees. people are just upset by how the whole show portrayed anyone that wasn’t korean as being lazy, ungrateful, mean, or untalented
They did the C trainees dirty. It’s such an offense to the girls who worked so hard to not even be judged on their talents. They were not loved solely for their nationality. I’m sure Liang Jiao’s heart broke here for her girls. Xiaoting felt the same, even though she made it into the group.
I am sorry but i can't accept your opinion. Koreans don't love Chinese members no reason. Other Chinese members distort Korea War except only Xiaoting so Koreans don't love them. I know they are so attractive but I don't wanna pick them although they distort Korean culture and Korea War. Also most Koreans including me think if they want to be k-group members, they should have shown the minimum courtesy to Koreans, like Xiaoting. Most Koreans think k-members are more skilled than most c-members. Other people say Korean hate C-member for their nationality but this is not true. If other c member except Xiaoting don't distort Korea War, Koreans purely pick them. I hope you are not offended by my comment. Thank you for reading my comment
@@soso-jw2gw Ok, so if you think Xiaoting is the only member who isn’t political, why is she in 9th place? Shouldn’t she be in top 3? Why are the Japanese members so low (Hikaru/Mashiro)? Why is Yurina so low? There is a clear bias towards Korean members, regardless of talent. You can’t deny that.
@@soso-jw2gw just fucking dont invite them at the first place. Bring them in then lock the door to humiliate them make Korean so satisfy..... yea...more...more..
@@soso-jw2gw this is a survival show, you are supposed to judge them based on their talents NOT NATIONALITY. if you vote for them based on their political stance then you should start stanning politicians instead 🙄
@@Mchannelw Since the Girl's Planet program is a Korean program, most of the team members communicate in Korean, so if you look at the program, you can see that the Korean members mainly lead the practice and activities. Chinese and Japanese members don't speak because they can't speak Korean fluently. In addition, Top Nine's Korean members are especially superior in personality, dance, and vocals than other Korean members. So, even if Koreans like Japanese or Chinese members, the members they like the most are K-member, so I think there are a lot of Koreans in Top Nine. Plus, Koreans think Xiaoting is less attractive and skilled than other top9 members and global people did't pick her too ,so she is in 9th place. This is my opinion so this can be different with other Koreans
I voted for Su Ruiqi everyday. I was thinking of giving a vote between her and Xiao ting. C group deserves better. I hope another agency creates a girl group with YaNing and Ruqui
If I'll be honest, it's not just mnet that I blame for the evil editing but those international fans as well who are too sure that xiaoting's, yurina's, ruiqi's, mashiro's, and hikaru's spots were secured because if they didn't think that way in the first place they might have chances to keep their rank high, yurina and ruiqi would have debut as well. Everyone think their spots are secured and decided to vote for other trainees si when the interim rank for the final line up was revealed, everyone panic vote after realizing no spot is secured. This is also not just because of those international fans but also because of the 1 pick vote and that heavy weight of k votes which is 50% so 1 vote from a k fan is equivalent to 10 votes. If mnet didn't changed the voting systen to 1 pick, xiaoting, mashiro, and hikaru would rank high, yurina and ruiqi would also make it to top 9
Yaning might be given better resources(Chinese term for opportunities) by her company since she did quite well here and gained quite a few international fans. Ruiqi however has been a bridesmade way too many times. With 10th place in Chuang 2020 and now again missing debut by 3 spots, it must be heartbreaking for her.
@@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 i think fans really voted por them, like why would they stop voting for them when the final and the most important votes are about to come?? makes no sense, what played them bad was the 50/50 and the evil editing towards the C trainees, without it the final lineup would be sooo different and i dare to say even better
@@tzy5954 i know but my point is, the fans were too relax at first until the interim rank for the final line up was released. Most of the fans I've seen have put their focus on xiaoting, mashiro, and hikaru. Yes they of course give focus to yurina as well however the problem is it wasn't enough. Compared to xiaoting, who have the support of c fans, mashiro and hikaru who have the support of j fans, yurina is barely talked about by j fans or i should say, yurina isn't loved by j fans as much as they love the other two which also the reason why intl votes aren't enough to bring her to top 9. Intl fans are as well divided because of course they have their own pick. But like i said on my first comment, i also blame mnet for the change in voting system. Yurina, xiaoting, mashiro, and hikaru, they were filler votes for 3 pick vote. Keep in mind that koreans hold 50% of the power in the voting and they would pick the most popular c and j trainees for the 3 pick vote which is why those 4 i've mentioned are filler votes. I'm not saying they don't have a strong fandom but compared to koreans who have the 50% rights in the votes, the international fans don't hold much power. But again, the fans are also at fault here because they are too relax that the spots of those 4 are secured so they instead focus on their 1 pick and those with lower ranks. If the voting system wasn't change we'll probably get 4K, 3J, and 2C or atleast maybe yaning, ruiqi, or yurina could debut
@@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 the fans were not relaxed at all, the reason why xiaoting was first in all of the other rankings is because of the cell/9 person voting system so other people like mashiro and hikaru were just filler picks amd that's why they ended up in top at the start, most of the fanbases for the c group trainees were strong anyway during the last round like fu yaning and su ruiqi but due to mnet's rigging they literally made it seem like international votes was nothing compared to the korean votes
As a Chinese, I’m extremely pissed off. Like when Xiaoting was called, I felt like she didn’t want to be there if her sisters weren’t going to debut with her. Just seeing her reaction, and that fake smile which looked like it was just for the show, was really heartbreaking. Just my opinion, but I’m not going to stan this group. I’ll support Hikaru, Mashiro, and Xiaoting, but that’s it. Congrats Mnet you debut a “Global group”……
As a Chinese, I agree and it's quite infuriating that they evil edited the c group trainees and treated them poorly compared to j and k group on top of that to only have 1 c group member in the final line up however I'm quite relieved for other c group members because if they can't treat them right just for a few months then they can't treat them well for 2.5 years.
Everything was made for k group to succeed. Korea counted for 50% of votes as well as votes during the livestream being worth double but the live was 8pm korean time while everyone else was asleep…. Also the one vote policy ensures that most Koreans will vote for K group members AND their votes count for 50% of all votes even though Korea makes up a minority of the total votes.
That's what I was talking about. The foreign members were like just added in the last minute by the knetz for the group to make money overseas easier. How sad. International voters didn't have much say, really.
@@TiFanyHwang I understand that of course. But they marketed it as a global girl group. And the whole concept was to have girls from C,J,&K. And to have it be so biased towards k members rubs me the wrong way. They could have just included a lot of foreign trainees and it wouldn’t have been a big deal. But they whole point of the show was the three groups.
Understandable because Korea is their main market. Would you make a survey on other country if you're selling the product on your own country? Shows like these are obviously based on Fan base and we can't do anything about it. Just congrats them and hope other trainees who are deserving can debut.
i mean the timing of the show doesnt really matter since japan and china have similar time zones to korea, the only people who would be asleep by then are americans and countries nearby to usa
She was whispering Xiaoting's name when they were about to say the second P1 candidate and then... I wonder what her reaction was when she found out that Xiaoting was P9
if Bahiyyih's and Xiaoting's ranks were swapped around there wouldn't be such an uproar... i feel so bad for both of them, Bahiyyih getting the hate for being top2 and Xiaoting for being the sole C trainee in the lineup by herself. both of their reactions imo looked like they didn't want to be there in the moment when they were called up, especially Xiaoting.
Just the disappointment in her eyes seeing that non if her C sisters nor her lover Yurina make it into the debut group. Was so heart breaking 💔, you can tell she had enough of the bs.
Yeah i felt like she didnt even want to debut anymore without any C group members there or Yurina there with her. She even said: "I was ready to go off stage" smth like that
If they debuted real top 9 by votes alone, Jiao would have had her cgroup big sisters in, and SXT would be 5th place 1. Huening Bahiyyih 525k 2. Sakamoto Mashiro 488k 3. Seo Youngeun 442k 4. Choi Yujin 428k 5. Shen Xiaoting 425k 6. Fu Yaning 419k 7. Su Ruiqi 418k 8. Ezaki Hikaru 387k 9. Kim Chaehyun 363k Mnet’s method of converting Korean votes to more points was basically legal rigging.
chaehyun was backed by aespa fans, right? that's really interesting how she went from top9 in this ranking to top1 in 50/50 seeing yeongeun that high is also surprising, i feel like she went pretty unnoticed throughout the show (at least compared to other contestants)
@@zee3e no, youngeun has her loyal international fans. she is in top 5(?) in global votes. well i wouldnt say loyal but after that one pick maybe those fans are panicking to vote for her. whats weird for me is chaehyun entering top9 in global votes, but bc you mentioned aespa’s fans, i now get it
@@zee3e Youngeun had a pretty organic rise in popularity compared to most of the other girls who had good edits, bad edits, a bit of both, etc. She had a pretty neutral edit throughout the show and showcased her talents every round, and once she got both benefits last round I figured she was in!
I have to say, even though the cell thing they attempted in the beginning was weird, I see its value now. I figured since the show started out with 33 Korean girls, 33 Japanese girls, and 33 Chinese girls, that it would ultimately boil down to 3 Korean girls, 3 Japanese girls, and 3 Chinese girls in the final lineup. I guess this is what the fans voted for, though. I doubt Mnet would risk another vote rigging scandal...
They followed the system but the system itself was rigged for K trainees. 1 Korean vote was worth like 10 international votes. I guess it's not technically rigging if they tell you upfront they're cheating LOL
@@gappmoe Oh dang, I didn't realize it worked that way. The voting systems they were coming up with were so confusing that I gave up trying to make sense of it, lol.
@@Rose0004 MNET made it so there can NEVER be more than 3 foreign debuts... and they can only be low debuts. Someone explained to me that the voting system is 50% Korean votes and 50% global votes. Knets almost exclusively vote for K trainees, while international fans vote fairly evenly for K J and C trainees. SO 3/4+ of all votes go to K trainees and C/J can only receive 1/4 of votes at MAX. It will almost always end up with top 6 in K group and the bottom 3 in C/J group
The votes may not have been rigged but: 1. The screentime of girls 2. The evil editing 3. That one girl vote policy Ruined everything. And don't fight me by saying that the one girl vote policy was okay. Bruh am I voting to stan a solo artist? No. What's the essence of calling it a global girl group with uneven KCJ count. "The group is for kpop so k group members have more debut members" -- Who said that fans won't support the group if they do the 3:3:3 ratio. Didnt mnet see the views of these foreign (C,J) girls all througout the show? What's the use of letting people all around the world to vote for this when the online voting (during the show) happened at 7:20 PM KST when other fans are asleep. AND THE VOTES FOR THAT TIME ARE DOUBLED. Honestly, I feel bad for C group members. They were used to hype people at the start with Xiaoting's Rumor rap, Fu Yaning's we go up, Su Ruiqi's snapping. So sad for them BUT i know there are BETTER opportunities for them. Please cast these talented girls. Mnet doesn't deserve these girls.
Yep. It was even proven that mnet tried to picture the C girls as these troublemakers and K girls as the innocent ones. Additionally, K-voters (who are known to be biased) had the majority vote.
Fr and in my opinion the C group girls were much more talented. It should’ve been 3:3:3 and you should’ve been able to vote for one member in each nationality group. From there each member who had to top 3 votes in each group should be put in the team. That would make it even between nationality’s
It'S KpOp It ShOuLd JuSt Be KoReAnS Then why the fuck invite other nationalities then??? Next time MNET just focus on the Koreans then. You'll still have international viewership, seriously. Just ride this current K-wave, no need to incite xenophobia by inviting foreigners and then triggering Knetz to just vote for their own K-trainees bec turns out they don't want any foreigners in the final lineup 🙄 Hope this is the last time you invite foreigners on your shows. 🙄🙄🙄
imagine being yaning yurina ruiqi that makes the show popular and because of them the views increase for about 60% and doesnt debut because of stupid k vote 50% ratio
To be fair yurina still wouldn’t have made it if the Korean wasn’t weighted higher… she would only have been #12…. People literally just didn’t vote for her enough
2 things: 1. The group name sounds stupid 2. I felt like the foreign members were added last minute so it would be easier for them to make money overseas.
@@swirlybun9616 I knew that. Didn't you read "I felt", or do you not read at all? Before the finale started, I had visited some Korean forums to see how they had been planning to vote during the live broadcast; I found that they were willing to replace some k contestants with foreign ones just for the sake of making money overseas easier. Not sure how smart you are, but don't assume that you are smarter than everyone. Cheers
I am not sure if it was her sister sitting beside her, but you can hear her say "C group C group" 2 times. They were really hoping for a few of there C group sisters to make it into the debut line 🤧. The look in Shen Xiaoting eyes when she won looked like she didn't even wanna go up as she was so disappointed. That none of her C sisters made the debut line nor her LOVER Yurina.
I am really worried for xiaoting, like all her best friends didn't make it (including yurina) and she is not even fluent in Korean. I know all the other girls are nice but sincerely don't know if she is geniurely happy in this group or not. I hope she will keep a good mental health and best love and support!
Most Chinese Netizen wants 7/2/0, most of us are not happy that SXT made it. You can read the chat spamming 7/2/0 and even Liang Jiao wanting the C girls returning to China to debut. However, we’re still happy for SXT, and we’re worried for SXT’s future. She may or may not be mistreated, she may or may not be lonely as the only C girl. We just want her back and we will treat her like a treasure, it honestly feels like South Korea stole our treasure. 😭
21st Century Tidbits because they think sxt deserves a better rank and there’s no other c group trainees to debut with her, the cnetz are afraid sxt is gonna be isolated in the group because she’s the only c group trainee
I see lots of global fans saying thank god Xiaoting make it. But we Chinese just feel we get humiliated by them. We just want every C girls come home. U can see here even C contestants Liang Jiao want them back.
Not Chinese( I’m Vietnamese) but yeah i feel you, i really root for Yaning and was watching the whole stream just to wait for a C-group. Poor SXT, being used as a toy. I feel bad for C-members and you guys too, this is art and shouldn’t be related to anything political. Hope the C-girls stay strong and keep follow their dream. Pray for SXT😢
even tho I'm not Chinese, when the mid interm rank was announced, I feel like this group should debut only K-group. Its so much dishonored for those girl who carried the show placed in the lower ranking.
As much as I want to stan the group, but I can't. Maybe I'll be just solo stan of xiaoting and hikaru. I knew it when Youngeun was announce the rest in the higher rank will be all from K groups and xiaoting being the 9th place. It's just so unfair how this line up is made. Mnet evil edit the C girls and make the K girls be the hero + aside from hikaru and mashiro there's no screentime for J girls (small screentime of shana though). From the start of the show, mnet already set their want ratio, so they evil edit c girls as much as they want bc they're all so powerful + no screentime for j girls since they're more talented.
Yall dont understand business. China banned promotion of kpop, which is why its a risk to put many of them in the group. And the main market for the groupre koreans, its just fair they get the most say in everything. And besides, it was still fair... If we only consider k votes, myah and suyeon will get in replacing mashiro and hikaru. If we only consider the international votes, rui qi and yaning get in replacing yeseo and dayeon. It means both koreans and international fans would get 7 of the trainees they voted for. I dont know why yall see it as unfair
They didnt evil edit the chinese because they are powerful, they evil edit the chinese because they are from china, a place that have a stupid government that banned the promotion of kpop in their country. So dont blame mnet for not wanting to risk losing profitability in their group...
@@crudojoshuaricofort8795 If they do not want people from China. Why invite Chinese trainees then? They clearly do not like Chinese bc they're carrying the show + can outshine the k trainees
As soon as 1 & 2 were announced I skipped ahead to see who got ninth. I wasn't sitting through another half hour of dramatic pauses when I was already so let down. Su Ruiqi and Fu Yaning ran that show and got nothing for it. Evil editing from mnet. Discrimination from Korean voters. Character assassination from global voters on twitter..... I only hope some company in Korea is smart enough to reach out to them. We need these fierce girls in k-pop. We NEED them. Su Ruiqi had so much support until the last 2 episodes.. people just gave up on her. Now she will go to college and we will no longer see her..... I just want to cry.
That's what I thought was gonna happen!! Would be more fair but that first episode when they announced that the group will have no limits on any group I knew it was gonna be trouble
Mnet really brought those c group girls to only evil edit them and I was really lost for words when Xiaoting wasnt announced for candidate for first place it was obvious that Xiaoting later on became 9th place so we atleast got a c group girl in the final line up
Yesterday during the votes, I last smiled when Youngeun was called.... After that I lost my smile because all those who were called were K group trainees.... I was actually shocked not to see Xiao Ting battling with someone for top 1.... But I'm not surprised because it's Mnet anyway.... They'll make more Korean trainees debut
@@ankitarath1828 mnet was trying to make a bunch of foreign trainees debut though? they revealed the whole interim ranking where they were out of the top 9 to alert ppl and make them vote for them. it's only the fans to blame for not voting harder for their fav c j picks in the first place. in fact you should thank mnet for revealing the rankings so early so you could panic vote for c j trainees, bc they only barely got in bc of panic voting...
@@jiaverse actually, k votes weigh around 8x more than international votes, and koreans will obviously vote for k trainees. sometimes no matter how much you vote, it won’t be enough. i saw someone say su rui qi and fu yaning had near double votes of suyeon, but still ranked behind her. int can vote all they want, but they cant compare to the votes of koreans.
If you think the votes are rigged then I'm telling you that it's not. The reason xiaoting, mashiro, and hikaru ranked low in top 9 is because fans become too sure that their spots are secured especially xiaoting. However, we also need to consider that other ktrainees (especially bahiyyih) have a very strong support from not just k fans but intl fans as well. K votes are also 50% and we know koreans will vote for k trainees. Intl fans votes are pretty much divided which caused those three I've mentioned above to rank low. I'm pretty sure mnet was also panicking because there aren't any c trainees being called before the announcement of the top 9. Dayeon would be 1st, bahiyyih wouldn't debut, Ruiqi or Yaning would probably make it or mnet would put one of the two to replace bahiyyih in the top 9 (knowing how fans love these two as well) if the voting was rigged. But at some point, I'm happy the other c trainees did not debut because they might have missed the opportunity but atleast they are free from poor treatment
@@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 Yup, knetz gave a few foreign contestants (popular ones) filler votes because KP900 was their initially "ideal" lineup. Plus, they prioritized nationality over anything else.
Sxt is literally THE face of this show. This show relied on her considering how many times she's been center and the role of the killing part, all the way up to the last mission...
@@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 I don't think the show ever made any official statement that P01 as center. Based on the last episode, I think it'll be between KDY and SXT since they've had the narrative of competing against one another as center.
@@sha6146 LMAO In your delusion they didn't have that much of fanbase. In fact, they did have that much of fanbase to the points they're actually ranked #6 & #7 respectively if it's raw votes. They only get pulled by xenophobic koreans whose 1 votes weight equal 20 international votes.
@@sha6146 i was talking abt evil editing and international fans did their best to surpass the 50/50 votes from Korean fans to save their non Korean picks.
@@diffie.hellmannn You are talking af is Xiaoting didn't have a fanbase from the show he participated in China, or if others didn't have BIG fanbases thanks to Aespa, for example, saying that they were supporting #1, or Yujin who ALREADY debuted, or maybe Mashiro, who was knew by a lot of people cuz she was a JYP trainee and is Itzy's friend, or Yurina, who is a well-know actrees in Japan and has a big fanbase, or aaaaaaaall chinese trainees who participated in Produce 101 China loooool Almost all of them had a big fanbase, why are you crying for Bahi" "privilege" if almost all of them have that stupid "privilege". Just bullshit.
Guysss, if the ratio of korean votes & international votes isn't "1 : 20" Xiaoting's will be in the 5th place, Yaning in the 6th place and Ruiqi in 7th place. 😭😭😭😭
Imagine if the final group was Xiaoting, Fu Yaning, Su Ruiqi, Yurina, Mashiro, Hikaru, Yujin, Seo Youngeun, and Bora. The perfect combination of talent and visuals. Nevertheless, I am still gonna support the group because they all worked hard to debut.
She is as disappointed as everyone who isn't supporter of Bahiyyih or Chae Hyun... like I was supporting Su Rui Qi, but was happy for each of the 3-9 announcement... but top2 is just so undeserved
KNETS better leave XIaoting alone... How long before they dig into her past to try to find something to cancel her over.. All foreign idols in Korea have a hard time but especially Chinese.... I'm worried for her.. I know she has studied well but she isn't fluent in Korean and has no one in the group to talk to....
@@Evelyn-oy4ueLiving in the West it's so weird seeing people being so openly discriminatiory with no backlash.... All of C girls were beautiful 😭 every trainee there was beautiful...
@@odeliamili7129sorry, i didn't meant that they also didn't come far and I am respecting them. I just want this hatred to the group to be lessen you know? Thank you though for having a conversation to me. Nice knowing you!!
He was sad. Jiao I totally understand you, I really hoped to see that more girls from the C group will debut :''( they were one of the most talented in the program
agree, not gonna stan.. bet the fandom will suck too, looking at how they brought bahi to 2nd place not being able to acknowledge that she does not deserve 2nd place considering her screentime and talent at this point in her career.
@@serendipitized IOI have sohye, Izone have Hyewon, WannaOne have Lai Guanlin. Bahiyyih is undoubtly better than those people, at least she got the basic idol skill plus solid fandom who will actually buy their albums.
well they're based in korea, ofc korean opinions matter more unless your country wants to take them in and fund their whole career LMAO korean fans are the base of the group and what matters because they are K-POP
i was honestly expecting yurina or xiaoting to fight for first place against chaehyun or against each other, never imagined xiaorina out of the final top3. i'm still so sad.
i read somewhere that a yurina fanbase stopped voting for her becaushe she is from a rich family, but idk, also some people thought she had assured debut so they stopped voting and xiaoting, well, she is chinese so it was obvious that she will not be top1/top2 or center
You all are just hating at this point. If you don't want to support the group then don't. If you still do, then do so. It's like you're all proud on hating over a 17 year old girl. Your hate won't change things
If it weren't for Korean:International 50:50 🤔 1. Huening Bahiyyih 2. Sakamoto Mashiro 3. Seo Young Eun 4. Choi Yu Jin 5. Shen Xiao Ting 6. Fu Ya Ning 7. Su Rui Qi 8. Ezaki Hikaru 9. Kim Chae Hyun
holy hell this lineup is good. 4:3:2 is a decent proportion, we have cute members and fierce members, kang yeseo doesn't have to debut as a literal minor and xiaoting isn't alone (although i'd give xiaoting the first place and swap hiyyih for yurina, hiyyih is mad talented but she wasn't debut ready because of her age and very short training period)
it’s absolutely ridiculous that shen xiao ting is the only c group trainee. she probably expected that, but still; it is simply unexceptable to market this group as a “global” group when 6/9 trainees are korean.
I also think, fans should really consider the dynamic of the group that they would like for the next survival program. I genuinely have not seen Bahiyyih interact and build a strong connection with the other girls (honestly never seen her so why did she even have fans (we know why, it’s her brother)) A solid fan favourite Yurina and Su Rui Qi who the other girls like and respect for their talents and individuality. Gone to waste.
@@rn7da At the beginning bahhi was my pick because I didn't have anyone to vote for, but as the missions went by, (like other picks I added) I never saw her take initiative, she never stood out, she never tried a position and I stopped liking her. How does someone who does not stand out become popular? She had the advantage of the brother of the popular group and big company and most of that fandom denies it, you can go to twitter and check the fanbases and the vast majority are fans of TX* and BT*.
If it wasn't because of the 50-50 rules (which wasn't fair), there will be 3 Chinese in the group which are Xiaoting, Ruiqi, and Yaning. But the Korea 50% vote rules allowed Dayeon and Yeseo to debut since they got a lot of votes from Korea.
the visible shock in Liang Jiao's face when she heard Huening Bahiyyih called, I think that's a sign enough. She cheered for her C group and J group team mates the whole time, this shit is fucking ridiculous, Mnet really decided to say fuck the rest of the world, 50% of the votes come from korea but everyone can only vote for one person. No fucking shit Kgroup trainees win, they almost definitely have higher fanbases in korea.
@@assyifaaisya8398 yes ofc !! ive loved them since debut and i hope more people will continue to support them after gp999 instead of saying they will and then forgetting about them yknow. I hope fnc will promote them better :( they're way too talented
I'm not hating on bahi but yeah there is more deserving girls than her. She isn't one to blame but the people who voted for her. Most people vote for her doesn't even watch the show and just know she's a sister of kai. They just want interaction between the two in the camera but didn't care about her talent. Sadly, because of this mindset of people the deserving girls got robbed
knetz aren’t interested in survival shows anymore. you can see it on their votes, if you compare the korean votes itself to the amount of votes during produce era (which only uses korean votes), you can definitely see a huge difference. mnet made a “difference” to invite japanese and chinese to the show to gain attention worldwide. But at the end of the show, most korean trainees will eventually debut for the sake of their pride. Like there’s no way a kpop girlgroup will consist of more foreign members than korean. And also, 1 korean votes could weigh 8-10 intl votes. That actually says a lot, especially with the one pick system where they didn’t need to vote for non korean contestant. For example, xiaoting and other top ranked foreign contestants dropped from the top9 during the interim rank, and only 3 made it. It’s because they were used as a filler vote (before one pick system, they must vote for 1k1c1j). it’s sounds unfair,, but you know koreans are the one who runs the show…
"Now I hope our C sisters debut in China" Bruh, I totally agree. After witness 1-8 line up, seems like they push Xiaoting up so global fan not 100% upset because no one from C group chosen
Her reaction when P2 is being announced is totally me. The exactly same reaction and at that time I almost things that I got ears problem like lmao wth like I never expect it because in my mind I already expects other people who much likely to get it
By the end of the series xiaoting was really my only top 3 trainee but I can understand why liang jiao is upset. imagine going through this tough experience, getting mistreated by the staff an evil edited by mnet, just to only have one C girl debut... instead of the outcome I'm more upset about the mistreatment/evil editing because we did get a solid group in the end, I just wish the C trainees were able to have a better experience on the show
@@sha6146 yeah but the concept of the entire show was to have a GLOBAL group with chinese, japaneses and korean members… they bring 33chineses trainees for only one debuting ? (And She almost didn’t make it) Same with the j trainees… At the start of the show, everyone thought the ratio would be 3:3:3 due to the system vote They could just debut a group without having to waste the time of foreign trainees who clearly didn’t have a chance to debut (with the system of vote)
@@loso_ll the ratio would have been like that if only mnet still used the C-J-K vote. I was also shocked by how the ranking was like that because I wanted my picks to be there :((
the fact is , they don’t like Chinese but they still want to get money from them. So they include 1 as a “hostage” , so they can do evil editing to others members and give a low rank to meet Koreans’ expectation. “Win-Win” for both Mnet & Koreans, money for Mnet and fulfillment for Koreans. ( Sorry my opinion become a bit offensive , but I’m pissed off by the result, it’s my first time to know, a show can try so hard to make a rank such ridiculous that all first 6th to be themselves and also claimed as “international” And most of the trainees had even less screen time than a Korean trainee’s mother?! ) I like all the girls, but Mnet no way!!
Mnet is a corporation. They know they can't sell kpop to China but they used C trainees as a way to get more atention to the show. And in the end they put Xiao Ting at the final lineup as a joke to say "There is your C member, this is fair." Y'all know whatever her name is, has a big fandom because of her brother and crazy boyband fans spend a lot more money. Mnet knew it and that's why they did edited C members as chaotic as they could. They stole all this talented trainees their debut just because their own interests.
? I'm sure they didn't want her as well, evident with her barely having screentime except for the introduction episode. It's just that she has crazy support from her fanbase (some of that fanbase of course is from her connection). But the voting system really crewed the C-group and its so obvious Mnet doesn't care about them tho😞
@@rn7da Yeah, you're right. But what I don't get is, why Bahiyyih needed to join this survival. Even if she debuted in a not so high-tier entertainment company. Just by her name alone, she'd automatically get some buzz and make it. It's just sad that some girls who actually joined this because they lack opportunities didn't get to debut.
@@janthony5386 Idk but maybe she doesn't _want_ to make it in just by her name alone? Maybe she wanted to show that she could grow and do well herself. But no matter what happened during the show I'm sure we'll see much more improvement from her now that she's in the final debut lineup.
Knowing knets, i'm honestly terrified for Xiaoting.... they will dig into her past until they find something to hate her for... no Chinese idol in Korea is safe from discrimination... I'm so worried for her.
Yaa but the top 1 is on par with Kim Bora even tho I think Bora is better. But ya this line is ok expect the top 2. The spot wasted, the spot could have been someone more talented
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“It’s been a while since I went to KTV, guess I’ll go PURELY K next time.” I totally understand, Jiao ;(
omgggg 💀 didnt understand untill i read it again from the comment
Clueless 👈 me
What did she mean
@@hoimoitoigoi me too
@@hoimoitoigoi she was saying she'll go as a korean (nationality) next time ;; because its Korean TV (KTV)
@@hoimoitoigoi PURELY K is one of the biggest Karaoke brands in China. What Jiao said is the irony of the group’s K member proportion (the group is made of purely k)
The fact that she got all pissed for not seeing ANY C group trainee in the 8th first places and closed the stream... Honestly same
Same!!! I knew Xiaoting was gonna be P9 so I just stopped watching the stream. C-group was ROBBED!!!
@@Avi.joyyy12 Sooo robbed, I even was scared of Xiaoting, thank god she made it to P9, but so embarrassing to see the disrespect to China
mnet only showed the talent from k group, j group and c group were just as talented if not better.
Yup same
And Yurina too .. still can’t get believe she didn’t get to top 9
You can tell she was just waiting for C group trainees but she never got it. It was so sad honestly 😢
Hi, my friend, great to see you here😊
ikr i was soo pissed how come
wen zhe who can rap dance
fu yaning who literally got called an all rounder
su ruiqi who can sing like a beauty
but no instead huening BYEhyyh called called im not stanning this Ke1per group
@@heluhdatzaza IKR!! at least support Hikaru, Mashiro, and Xiaoting because that’s what I’m doing. 1 Korean vote equals to 10 votes, and the single voting system put the foreign trainees at a huge disadvantage. Even the criticism they get wasn’t fair at all. The show was rigged, and we all know it.
@@heluhdatzaza if it's not for Xiaoting I won't support the group for sure...really sorry to say that since I voted for her everyday but at this point I would have preferred her out from the top 9 and directly ignoring "Kep1er". But since she is in... I will try to listen to their songs and if their music is my cup of tea then I'll consider to stan.
@@heluhdatzaza What can we do? Some people are always thirsty for visuals with underwhelming talent... #SAD
I just don't get why mnet called chinese girls to the show if they wouldn't let them debut, it's so sad honestly
we voted not mnet
U all called mnet for rigging the show one they didn't u don't like it
@@bubblyladyg4387 and? one-pick worldwide was 4-6 for c-group
@@bubblyladyg4387 who gave no screentime and gave a lot of evil edit towards chinese trainees?, do you think that doesn't affect who is going to be voted by the audience? XD
I think they should’ve just done open voting instead k vote solely accounting 50% of the total votes… maybe that would have helped, but in the end it’s a kpop group and they’re going to market towards Koreans 🤷🏽♀️
When the candidates for the top1 and top2 places were announced I lost all hope for Yaning and SuRuiqi
The Chinese girls deserved so much better 😭 and Xiaoting will be all alone now by herself with no c-girls I hope she'll be okay
girls that had strong one pick fanbase won
@@bubblyladyg4387 Ruiqi and Yaning would like a word
@@q_q123 it also has to do with koreans hating chinese members, k votes had 50% weightage, so ofc k members will rank higher. most korean people didnt vote for chinese trainees. but mnet evil edited chinese trainees which was wrong.
@@bubblyladyg4387 korean picks won... if votes were weighed equally ruiqi and yaning would've made it as they have really strong one pick fanbase
I mean Xiaoting will get along but sad to say Fu Yaning didnt get to debut
on the lead up to the top 1&2 announcement, i really kept thinking "WOW xiaoting jumped from being a top9 candidate to top 2" lmfao
Yup... when I saw Hikaru on P7, I thought Xiaoting would be top 5, for sure, but they kept on calling K trainees. When they said Xiaoting, Suyeon and Myah were candidates for P9, I almost closed my laptop becase wtf...
I dropped my phone accidentally when jingoo announced the 1st place candidates
if you thought xiaoting would jump 14 spots in 3 days,,,,that's on you LMAO
@@hoseokandsansblackgf4676 LMAO .... anything can happen... so shooo shooo go away
@@airflyer5238 “anything can happen” but it didnt 🤨
It seems like Liang Jiao wants to cry, I mean, c-group has been through a lot, from evil editing to staff discrimination. And they endured all of that just for one of them to make it? It's totally unfair, I can imagine how disappointed Shen Xiaoting must have been too.😭
so trueeeee!!!! tho i’m glad they escaped this bs! kepler????? man i’d be running for the woods
Ikr, thats what I thought too:"(
At this point Imma just be a xiaoting solo stan. She deserves sm better than this. If only another Ctrainee debuted with her, she would be less likely to feel loneliness...
@@armandv.c4903 me too, she wanted to debut with su ruiqi 😭😭😭😭
@@armandv.c4903 I would solo stan the Japanese and Chinese only 🙄
@@mackenziebendezu9229
Couldnt get much sadder:"(
Once Yeseo was called i knew it would be only Koreans ahead of her. Its was an terrible move by Mnet to change the voting system at the final.
It was suppose to be an Global Girl Group but at the end it wasn't. TWICE has more non-k than Kep1er.
They never changed anything. The ratio of k votes to global votes was always the same and we all agreed it made sense as it is a K-pop group. The cell system and the 3:3:3 forced voting was hated, as was the 1:1:1 voting. One pick is the only fair voting as it doesn’t force you to vote on a nationality. The C trainees didn’t get there because people didn’t like them as much as other contestants, and that’s literally the point of the show. Mnet didn’t do anything wrong. Whatever they do, people will hate. They rig? Haaaate. They don’t rig? Hate, they should’ve, we hate the lineup. They force you to vote for C and J trainees? Hate, we should vote on who we want on skill, not nationality. They lift the restriction? Hate, the ones you wanted didn’t win, so they should force us to vote for them so they win. Come on.
@@PiggiesInTheRain I mean also the weightng is 50% korean votes, 50% international which doesn't help the non-korean trainees since koreans prioritize koreans only.
@@PiggiesInTheRain of course the voting system was a disaster, Mnet wanted a global group and ends with that... Look at how Koreans voted : if they had chosen alone, the 9 would be Koreans lol
@@PiggiesInTheRain I agree that i believe it wasn't rigged, but the 50% international 50% korea made the 3:3:3 and 1:1:1 system doomed from the start because its been said time and time again korean will vote for korean. International fans also like the Korean trainees so they get votes in that demographic aswell but when it comes to the 50% Korean voting the C and J trainees are at a disadvantage.
The 1:1:1 was very good in the porpoise of creating a global GG...
And the 50/50 votes favorites the Koreans sooooo much.. keep in mind that 1 K-vote equals to 8/9 Non-K votes.
She was so angry she couldn’t continue the livestream. Guess she was afraid she might say the wrong thing. I totally feel the same angst!
I feel bad for Yurina,Su Rui Qi,Yaning,and Bora. Please support Cherry Bullet!
same here 💔
yaning??? NAAHHH
same here :c
jfifkd 😐
@@nyangseo YAHHHH shes great
I was waiting for xiaoting to be battling for her top 1 spot and au ruiqi and Yurina for 9 even tho these 2 should’ve both debuted
Yeah, me too. I was soooo disappointed when they announced no 1 candidates
@@IamAmeGreen same.. when ye seo got announced, i knew it was gonna be k group til top 2 but didnt expect the top 1 candidates.....
How were u expecting Xiaoting to debut on a very high rank when she ranked 16th in interim ranking??? And k trainees 1 pick fanbase are huge. Especially BAHIYYIH had the most strongest and biggest 1 pick fanbase since the beginning.
yeah me too and i know bahiyyih is going to debut but im not expecting her to rank that high her solo stan is massive
@@IamAmeGreen why? These girls were really hardworking, but now you are saying they didn't deserve it... Just because your fav didn't make it
Jiao closing the stream and not even waiting for 9th place was such a mood cuz that's what I did too... fucking ridiculous
@G-Taehyung OMG THANK UOU, FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS THAT NOT EVERYONE CAN DEBUT
@G-Taehyung As a C-trainee, maybe she's just sad when no Chinese were called. Just Xiaoting in the last place, barely making it.
Yeah its just bullshit because I know she's rooting for her C group sisters. 1/33, really mnet wtf.
@G-Taehyung i don’t think people are upset that not everyone can debut. that wasn’t the issue. it was them selling us on this idea that it would be a 3-3-3 GG. or at least a GG that didn’t have an overwhelming amount of K group girls. to give SXT 1st place every single week and then have her take 9th and have no other C trainees debut felt like they just used the “global” theme to pull in fans and votes and use them. like why include the japanese and chinese girls at all if they were just going to debut korean girls? they should’ve just kept it a korean show instead of dragging them all into it and giving them the hopes to debut, and evil editing everyone but the K trainees. people are just upset by how the whole show portrayed anyone that wasn’t korean as being lazy, ungrateful, mean, or untalented
Same
They did the C trainees dirty. It’s such an offense to the girls who worked so hard to not even be judged on their talents. They were not loved solely for their nationality. I’m sure Liang Jiao’s heart broke here for her girls. Xiaoting felt the same, even though she made it into the group.
I am sorry but i can't accept your opinion. Koreans don't love Chinese members no reason. Other Chinese members distort Korea War except only Xiaoting so Koreans don't love them. I know they are so attractive but I don't wanna pick them although they distort Korean culture and Korea War. Also most Koreans including me think if they want to be k-group members, they should have shown the minimum courtesy to Koreans, like Xiaoting. Most Koreans think k-members are more skilled than most c-members. Other people say Korean hate C-member for their nationality but this is not true. If other c member except Xiaoting don't distort Korea War, Koreans purely pick them. I hope you are not offended by my comment. Thank you for reading my comment
@@soso-jw2gw Ok, so if you think Xiaoting is the only member who isn’t political, why is she in 9th place? Shouldn’t she be in top 3? Why are the Japanese members so low (Hikaru/Mashiro)? Why is Yurina so low? There is a clear bias towards Korean members, regardless of talent. You can’t deny that.
@@soso-jw2gw just fucking dont invite them at the first place. Bring them in then lock the door to humiliate them make Korean so satisfy..... yea...more...more..
@@soso-jw2gw this is a survival show, you are supposed to judge them based on their talents NOT NATIONALITY. if you vote for them based on their political stance then you should start stanning politicians instead 🙄
@@Mchannelw Since the Girl's Planet program is a Korean program, most of the team members communicate in Korean, so if you look at the program, you can see that the Korean members mainly lead the practice and activities. Chinese and Japanese members don't speak because they can't speak Korean fluently. In addition, Top Nine's Korean members are especially superior in personality, dance, and vocals than other Korean members. So, even if Koreans like Japanese or Chinese members, the members they like the most are K-member, so I think there are a lot of Koreans in Top Nine. Plus, Koreans think Xiaoting is less attractive and skilled than other top9 members and global people did't pick her too ,so she is in 9th place. This is my opinion so this can be different with other Koreans
I voted for Su Ruiqi everyday. I was thinking of giving a vote between her and Xiao ting. C group deserves better. I hope another agency creates a girl group with YaNing and Ruqui
If I'll be honest, it's not just mnet that I blame for the evil editing but those international fans as well who are too sure that xiaoting's, yurina's, ruiqi's, mashiro's, and hikaru's spots were secured because if they didn't think that way in the first place they might have chances to keep their rank high, yurina and ruiqi would have debut as well. Everyone think their spots are secured and decided to vote for other trainees si when the interim rank for the final line up was revealed, everyone panic vote after realizing no spot is secured. This is also not just because of those international fans but also because of the 1 pick vote and that heavy weight of k votes which is 50% so 1 vote from a k fan is equivalent to 10 votes. If mnet didn't changed the voting systen to 1 pick, xiaoting, mashiro, and hikaru would rank high, yurina and ruiqi would also make it to top 9
Yaning might be given better resources(Chinese term for opportunities) by her company since she did quite well here and gained quite a few international fans. Ruiqi however has been a bridesmade way too many times. With 10th place in Chuang 2020 and now again missing debut by 3 spots, it must be heartbreaking for her.
@@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 i think fans really voted por them, like why would they stop voting for them when the final and the most important votes are about to come?? makes no sense, what played them bad was the 50/50 and the evil editing towards the C trainees, without it the final lineup would be sooo different and i dare to say even better
@@tzy5954 i know but my point is, the fans were too relax at first until the interim rank for the final line up was released. Most of the fans I've seen have put their focus on xiaoting, mashiro, and hikaru. Yes they of course give focus to yurina as well however the problem is it wasn't enough. Compared to xiaoting, who have the support of c fans, mashiro and hikaru who have the support of j fans, yurina is barely talked about by j fans or i should say, yurina isn't loved by j fans as much as they love the other two which also the reason why intl votes aren't enough to bring her to top 9. Intl fans are as well divided because of course they have their own pick. But like i said on my first comment, i also blame mnet for the change in voting system. Yurina, xiaoting, mashiro, and hikaru, they were filler votes for 3 pick vote. Keep in mind that koreans hold 50% of the power in the voting and they would pick the most popular c and j trainees for the 3 pick vote which is why those 4 i've mentioned are filler votes. I'm not saying they don't have a strong fandom but compared to koreans who have the 50% rights in the votes, the international fans don't hold much power. But again, the fans are also at fault here because they are too relax that the spots of those 4 are secured so they instead focus on their 1 pick and those with lower ranks. If the voting system wasn't change we'll probably get 4K, 3J, and 2C or atleast maybe yaning, ruiqi, or yurina could debut
@@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 the fans were not relaxed at all, the reason why xiaoting was first in all of the other rankings is because of the cell/9 person voting system so other people like mashiro and hikaru were just filler picks amd that's why they ended up in top at the start, most of the fanbases for the c group trainees were strong anyway during the last round like fu yaning and su ruiqi but due to mnet's rigging they literally made it seem like international votes was nothing compared to the korean votes
As a Chinese, I’m extremely pissed off. Like when Xiaoting was called, I felt like she didn’t want to be there if her sisters weren’t going to debut with her. Just seeing her reaction, and that fake smile which looked like it was just for the show, was really heartbreaking.
Just my opinion, but I’m not going to stan this group. I’ll support Hikaru, Mashiro, and Xiaoting, but that’s it. Congrats Mnet you debut a “Global group”……
Same buddy same...
As a Chinese, I agree and it's quite infuriating that they evil edited the c group trainees and treated them poorly compared to j and k group on top of that to only have 1 c group member in the final line up however I'm quite relieved for other c group members because if they can't treat them right just for a few months then they can't treat them well for 2.5 years.
she looked so sad
Same. Only this 3 girls. But i hope they leave the group 😭
Buddy same.... I'm gonna support Hikaru, Xiao Ting and Mashimallow (i gave her a nickname😅) the most but I won't be stanning the group
Everything was made for k group to succeed. Korea counted for 50% of votes as well as votes during the livestream being worth double but the live was 8pm korean time while everyone else was asleep….
Also the one vote policy ensures that most Koreans will vote for K group members AND their votes count for 50% of all votes even though Korea makes up a minority of the total votes.
That's what I was talking about. The foreign members were like just added in the last minute by the knetz for the group to make money overseas easier. How sad. International voters didn't have much say, really.
I mean... Its kinda obvious, they're a kpop group, the most important target is korean
@@TiFanyHwang I understand that of course. But they marketed it as a global girl group. And the whole concept was to have girls from C,J,&K. And to have it be so biased towards k members rubs me the wrong way. They could have just included a lot of foreign trainees and it wouldn’t have been a big deal. But they whole point of the show was the three groups.
Understandable because Korea is their main market. Would you make a survey on other country if you're selling the product on your own country? Shows like these are obviously based on Fan base and we can't do anything about it. Just congrats them and hope other trainees who are deserving can debut.
i mean the timing of the show doesnt really matter since japan and china have similar time zones to korea, the only people who would be asleep by then are americans and countries nearby to usa
She was whispering Xiaoting's name when they were about to say the second P1 candidate and then...
I wonder what her reaction was when she found out that Xiaoting was P9
when they were announcing top 2 candidates, you can also see wen zhe whispering and pointing at xiaoting in the background too
@@andieethechibii Sis be praying lol. I was so disappointed when Xiaoting wasn't called 😑
Actually most of Cnets feel being humiliated for this 9th ranking during streaming, they all said xiaoting deserve better and should quit this group
if Bahiyyih's and Xiaoting's ranks were swapped around there wouldn't be such an uproar... i feel so bad for both of them, Bahiyyih getting the hate for being top2 and Xiaoting for being the sole C trainee in the lineup by herself.
both of their reactions imo looked like they didn't want to be there in the moment when they were called up, especially Xiaoting.
they were crying what 💀
Yeah xiaoting looked so over it by the time she was announced!! Go from being number 1 the whole time to being 9th. I'd be annoyed too
Just the disappointment in her eyes seeing that non if her C sisters nor her lover Yurina make it into the debut group. Was so heart breaking 💔, you can tell she had enough of the bs.
Even though bahiyyih is my pick , I wished her and xiaoting ranks were swapped so that they will not receive hate
Yeah i felt like she didnt even want to debut anymore without any C group members there or Yurina there with her. She even said: "I was ready to go off stage" smth like that
If they debuted real top 9 by votes alone, Jiao would have had her cgroup big sisters in, and SXT would be 5th place
1. Huening Bahiyyih 525k
2. Sakamoto Mashiro 488k
3. Seo Youngeun 442k
4. Choi Yujin 428k
5. Shen Xiaoting 425k
6. Fu Yaning 419k
7. Su Ruiqi 418k
8. Ezaki Hikaru 387k
9. Kim Chaehyun 363k
Mnet’s method of converting Korean votes to more points was basically legal rigging.
chaehyun was backed by aespa fans, right?
that's really interesting how she went from top9 in this ranking to top1 in 50/50
seeing yeongeun that high is also surprising, i feel like she went pretty unnoticed throughout the show (at least compared to other contestants)
@@zee3e no, youngeun has her loyal international fans. she is in top 5(?) in global votes. well i wouldnt say loyal but after that one pick maybe those fans are panicking to vote for her. whats weird for me is chaehyun entering top9 in global votes, but bc you mentioned aespa’s fans, i now get it
@@zee3e Chaehyun is koreans pick. She pass korean beauty standard. But i never thought her to be rank 1. Well. She's also talented.
@@zee3e Youngeun had a pretty organic rise in popularity compared to most of the other girls who had good edits, bad edits, a bit of both, etc. She had a pretty neutral edit throughout the show and showcased her talents every round, and once she got both benefits last round I figured she was in!
@@avi3354 Hopefully the 1st place isn't the center, cuz honestly, she doesn't give out that center aura at all
I have to say, even though the cell thing they attempted in the beginning was weird, I see its value now. I figured since the show started out with 33 Korean girls, 33 Japanese girls, and 33 Chinese girls, that it would ultimately boil down to 3 Korean girls, 3 Japanese girls, and 3 Chinese girls in the final lineup. I guess this is what the fans voted for, though. I doubt Mnet would risk another vote rigging scandal...
It's not, but the system work to, which is most of k trainee debut. This is new girl group debut, yes, but global debut? Never.
They followed the system but the system itself was rigged for K trainees. 1 Korean vote was worth like 10 international votes.
I guess it's not technically rigging if they tell you upfront they're cheating LOL
@@gappmoe Oh dang, I didn't realize it worked that way. The voting systems they were coming up with were so confusing that I gave up trying to make sense of it, lol.
It's what KNETZ voted for tbh, since they hold 50% of the votes... Glad xiaoting debut but only c girl and no xiaorina and rip yxy cell
@@Rose0004 MNET made it so there can NEVER be more than 3 foreign debuts... and they can only be low debuts.
Someone explained to me that the voting system is 50% Korean votes and 50% global votes.
Knets almost exclusively vote for K trainees, while international fans vote fairly evenly for K J and C trainees.
SO 3/4+ of all votes go to K trainees and C/J can only receive 1/4 of votes at MAX.
It will almost always end up with top 6 in K group and the bottom 3 in C/J group
the way she said “i hope our chinese sisters debut in china now” 💔
The votes may not have been rigged but:
1. The screentime of girls
2. The evil editing
3. That one girl vote policy
Ruined everything. And don't fight me by saying that the one girl vote policy was okay. Bruh am I voting to stan a solo artist? No. What's the essence of calling it a global girl group with uneven KCJ count. "The group is for kpop so k group members have more debut members" -- Who said that fans won't support the group if they do the 3:3:3 ratio. Didnt mnet see the views of these foreign (C,J) girls all througout the show? What's the use of letting people all around the world to vote for this when the online voting (during the show) happened at 7:20 PM KST when other fans are asleep. AND THE VOTES FOR THAT TIME ARE DOUBLED. Honestly, I feel bad for C group members. They were used to hype people at the start with Xiaoting's Rumor rap, Fu Yaning's we go up, Su Ruiqi's snapping. So sad for them BUT i know there are BETTER opportunities for them. Please cast these talented girls. Mnet doesn't deserve these girls.
Yep. It was even proven that mnet tried to picture the C girls as these troublemakers and K girls as the innocent ones. Additionally, K-voters (who are known to be biased) had the majority vote.
Actually one girl policy was okay tho what makes it worse is the voting ratio between korean and international votes.
@@jen-jl5dn Wait where and when is this? Is it true?
Fr and in my opinion the C group girls were much more talented. It should’ve been 3:3:3 and you should’ve been able to vote for one member in each nationality group. From there each member who had to top 3 votes in each group should be put in the team. That would make it even between nationality’s
It'S KpOp It ShOuLd JuSt Be KoReAnS
Then why the fuck invite other nationalities then???
Next time MNET just focus on the Koreans then. You'll still have international viewership, seriously. Just ride this current K-wave, no need to incite xenophobia by inviting foreigners and then triggering Knetz to just vote for their own K-trainees bec turns out they don't want any foreigners in the final lineup 🙄
Hope this is the last time you invite foreigners on your shows. 🙄🙄🙄
imagine being yaning yurina ruiqi that makes the show popular and because of them the views increase for about 60% and doesnt debut because of stupid k vote 50% ratio
To be fair yurina still wouldn’t have made it if the Korean wasn’t weighted higher… she would only have been #12…. People literally just didn’t vote for her enough
Jangan lupakan Cai Bing!! Banyak juga yang menonton acara ini karena "baronaya" Cai Bing
im really disappointed at the final lineup :( yurina, bora, ruiqi ill always be supporting you :,)
also xiaoting deserved better..
Support bora at cherry bullet
2 things:
1. The group name sounds stupid
2. I felt like the foreign members were added last minute so it would be easier for them to make money overseas.
The second point is the dumbest thing I ever heard. The votes weren’t rigged this time.
@@swirlybun9616 but the votes were still unfair because of the vote weight coupled with korean xenophobia
@@swirlybun9616
Korean votes weighed more than international votes. They should have stayed with one member of each group
@@swirlybun9616 I knew that. Didn't you read "I felt", or do you not read at all?
Before the finale started, I had visited some Korean forums to see how they had been planning to vote during the live broadcast; I found that they were willing to replace some k contestants with foreign ones just for the sake of making money overseas easier.
Not sure how smart you are, but don't assume that you are smarter than everyone. Cheers
@@Ohyeahhahaha Which website Korean forum you visited before?
Never saw her looks this sad before..
I am not sure if it was her sister sitting beside her, but you can hear her say "C group C group" 2 times. They were really hoping for a few of there C group sisters to make it into the debut line 🤧. The look in Shen Xiaoting eyes when she won looked like she didn't even wanna go up as she was so disappointed. That none of her C sisters made the debut line nor her LOVER Yurina.
Xiaoting is going to feel so lonely being the only C trainee.. At least she is friends with Youngeun..
@@lovebts nah, her bestie is Hikaru... Youngeun is her 2nd daughter
@@noobiedesu4814 I thought Yurina was her bestie…
Even some of the chat was saying c group
i can bet you she shut off the livestream so she could talk about how crap the lineup is
Everyone did so I'm not surprised
frrrr she said "y'all I gotta go,tea has to be spilt"
Exactly! The only thing C and J Group trainees got from this show was a middle finger from mnet
@@pmpm4537 they literally said it would be a global group so they could profit off china and japan, and then they debut 6/9 korean girls.
@@chloefarrah8598Correct. Mnet made the voting system advantageous to koreans so that when one pick time comes, more korean trainees would move up.
I am really worried for xiaoting, like all her best friends didn't make it (including yurina) and she is not even fluent in Korean. I know all the other girls are nice but sincerely don't know if she is geniurely happy in this group or not. I hope she will keep a good mental health and best love and support!
Clearly not. Her facial expression spoke too loud
I read that she's an introvert, I can relate when there's no one I'm close to☹️ I hope they treat her well(?)
Yeah how is she gonna talk to people...
Isn't youngeun her best friend as well tho?
I thought she was close with Yujin, Hikaru and especially Youngeun
The final line up could've been worse, but definitely could've been better
i genuinely don't think it could have been worse
@@Mhochul we could’ve had Myah & Yaning… it could’ve been worse for sure
@@kayla2293 yanning is good. I would rather have yanning and myah over bahiyyih. So yeah this lineup could not be worse because it's already the worst
@@hueningbahibitch then you should Vote For Yaning Like We Vote For hiyyih
@@vivianayumnam1001 "We" as in every single TXT fan regardless if "we" watched the show or not?
Most Chinese Netizen wants 7/2/0, most of us are not happy that SXT made it. You can read the chat spamming 7/2/0 and even Liang Jiao wanting the C girls returning to China to debut. However, we’re still happy for SXT, and we’re worried for SXT’s future. She may or may not be mistreated, she may or may not be lonely as the only C girl. We just want her back and we will treat her like a treasure, it honestly feels like South Korea stole our treasure. 😭
She will be very lonely, this is saddening
May I ask why chinese netizen arent happy with SXT making it?
I feel the same way too. If they want c girls then have at least 2. Its so sad to see her alone in the lineup as C representative 😭
Tambien le roban su amistad con yurina :( estoy segura que si yurina hubiera debutado con ella no se sentiria sola
21st Century Tidbits because they think sxt deserves a better rank and there’s no other c group trainees to debut with her, the cnetz are afraid sxt is gonna be isolated in the group because she’s the only c group trainee
I see lots of global fans saying thank god Xiaoting make it. But we Chinese just feel we get humiliated by them. We just want every C girls come home. U can see here even C contestants Liang Jiao want them back.
Not Chinese( I’m Vietnamese) but yeah i feel you, i really root for Yaning and was watching the whole stream just to wait for a C-group. Poor SXT, being used as a toy. I feel bad for C-members and you guys too, this is art and shouldn’t be related to anything political. Hope the C-girls stay strong and keep follow their dream. Pray for SXT😢
thanks.. I know mnet and k-netz will debut more K girls, but the ranking is unacceptable.
even tho I'm not Chinese, when the mid interm rank was announced, I feel like this group should debut only K-group. Its so much dishonored for those girl who carried the show placed in the lower ranking.
Sometimes action speaks louder than words. I almost didn’t want she xiaoting to debut with Kep1er after 2nd was announced.
During the announcement for the 9th place, I didn't care who made it at that point
True because no yurina with her
Same buddy same, tbh all j group too
I was ready for Shen Xiaoting no1 and us fans battling it out with our emotions for Yurina and Su Rui Qi to battle it out for no9.. but here we are.
tbh same
She's such a mood. My favorite trainees were from c group 😭
wait but using mirror to show the screen this is so smart
this is what im talking abt!
she's indeed a smart girl!
ikr i was waiting for someone to say this
As much as I want to stan the group, but I can't. Maybe I'll be just solo stan of xiaoting and hikaru. I knew it when Youngeun was announce the rest in the higher rank will be all from K groups and xiaoting being the 9th place. It's just so unfair how this line up is made. Mnet evil edit the C girls and make the K girls be the hero + aside from hikaru and mashiro there's no screentime for J girls (small screentime of shana though). From the start of the show, mnet already set their want ratio, so they evil edit c girls as much as they want bc they're all so powerful + no screentime for j girls since they're more talented.
Well, supporting a specific member only would be a good option. I'm feeling ot8 right now.
all we saw was shana, literally every two seconds she had screen time
Yall dont understand business. China banned promotion of kpop, which is why its a risk to put many of them in the group. And the main market for the groupre koreans, its just fair they get the most say in everything. And besides, it was still fair... If we only consider k votes, myah and suyeon will get in replacing mashiro and hikaru. If we only consider the international votes, rui qi and yaning get in replacing yeseo and dayeon. It means both koreans and international fans would get 7 of the trainees they voted for. I dont know why yall see it as unfair
They didnt evil edit the chinese because they are powerful, they evil edit the chinese because they are from china, a place that have a stupid government that banned the promotion of kpop in their country. So dont blame mnet for not wanting to risk losing profitability in their group...
@@crudojoshuaricofort8795 If they do not want people from China. Why invite Chinese trainees then? They clearly do not like Chinese bc they're carrying the show + can outshine the k trainees
As soon as 1 & 2 were announced I skipped ahead to see who got ninth. I wasn't sitting through another half hour of dramatic pauses when I was already so let down. Su Ruiqi and Fu Yaning ran that show and got nothing for it. Evil editing from mnet. Discrimination from Korean voters. Character assassination from global voters on twitter..... I only hope some company in Korea is smart enough to reach out to them. We need these fierce girls in k-pop. We NEED them. Su Ruiqi had so much support until the last 2 episodes.. people just gave up on her. Now she will go to college and we will no longer see her..... I just want to cry.
I really want to see them together ❤ in a group. Let's hope for the best!
@@nagmadhingra Ruiqi, Yaning, Cai Bing in one fierce group and Xiaoting can join after 2 years with this group 😂👍
They should have stuck with 3K, 3J and 3C til the end. What was the point in the entire show.
For real
Exactly
That's what I thought was gonna happen!! Would be more fair but that first episode when they announced that the group will have no limits on any group I knew it was gonna be trouble
right
When K8 ranks higher than C2 FYN and C3 SRQ, you know this is bullshit at its finest
Mnet really brought those c group girls to only evil edit them and I was really lost for words when Xiaoting wasnt announced for candidate for first place it was obvious that Xiaoting later on became 9th place so we atleast got a c group girl in the final line up
Yesterday during the votes, I last smiled when Youngeun was called.... After that I lost my smile because all those who were called were K group trainees.... I was actually shocked not to see Xiao Ting battling with someone for top 1.... But I'm not surprised because it's Mnet anyway.... They'll make more Korean trainees debut
More like guests💀
The c stands for "cameo" and "click bait"
@@ankitarath1828 mnet was trying to make a bunch of foreign trainees debut though? they revealed the whole interim ranking where they were out of the top 9 to alert ppl and make them vote for them.
it's only the fans to blame for not voting harder for their fav c j picks in the first place. in fact you should thank mnet for revealing the rankings so early so you could panic vote for c j trainees, bc they only barely got in bc of panic voting...
@@jiaverse actually, k votes weigh around 8x more than international votes, and koreans will obviously vote for k trainees. sometimes no matter how much you vote, it won’t be enough. i saw someone say su rui qi and fu yaning had near double votes of suyeon, but still ranked behind her. int can vote all they want, but they cant compare to the votes of koreans.
xiaoting as p9 just feels disrespectful
like even until the end, they were going to use her
and then barely give her anything
If you think the votes are rigged then I'm telling you that it's not. The reason xiaoting, mashiro, and hikaru ranked low in top 9 is because fans become too sure that their spots are secured especially xiaoting. However, we also need to consider that other ktrainees (especially bahiyyih) have a very strong support from not just k fans but intl fans as well. K votes are also 50% and we know koreans will vote for k trainees. Intl fans votes are pretty much divided which caused those three I've mentioned above to rank low. I'm pretty sure mnet was also panicking because there aren't any c trainees being called before the announcement of the top 9. Dayeon would be 1st, bahiyyih wouldn't debut, Ruiqi or Yaning would probably make it or mnet would put one of the two to replace bahiyyih in the top 9 (knowing how fans love these two as well) if the voting was rigged. But at some point, I'm happy the other c trainees did not debut because they might have missed the opportunity but atleast they are free from poor treatment
@@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 Yup, knetz gave a few foreign contestants (popular ones) filler votes because KP900 was their initially "ideal" lineup. Plus, they prioritized nationality over anything else.
Sxt is literally THE face of this show. This show relied on her considering how many times she's been center and the role of the killing part, all the way up to the last mission...
@@panhiay9864 let's just hope that she get the center position because i believe center positions can change and doesn't necessarily based on ranking
@@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 I don't think the show ever made any official statement that P01 as center. Based on the last episode, I think it'll be between KDY and SXT since they've had the narrative of competing against one another as center.
C group carried the whole show but msnake did them dirty
Not really. In fact, the voters did since they didn't have that much of fanbase
@@sha6146 c group has big fanbases in china, they are just on chinese platforms
@@yaqisoba2809 if only the ratio was 3:3:3 then maybe a lot of u would like it :(
@@sha6146
LMAO In your delusion they didn't have that much of fanbase.
In fact, they did have that much of fanbase to the points they're actually ranked #6 & #7 respectively if it's raw votes. They only get pulled by xenophobic koreans whose 1 votes weight equal 20 international votes.
@@sha6146 i was talking abt evil editing and international fans did their best to surpass the 50/50 votes from Korean fans to save their non Korean picks.
The ‘????’ in the chat when they announced the second candidate for 1rst place 😭😭💀
Bruh ikrrr 🤣🤣
Periodt
😂😂😂
Yurina and Ruiqi deserved better, it would’ve made the distribution better and people wouldn’t have made such an uproar…
she cut it just when the only chinese girl appeared 😭
we all knew there won't be many foreign trainees in the line up but 2J and 1C AT THE LAST 3 PLACES is just ridiculous tbh
Mnet to c group and j group be like, "thank you for your participation, we hope you enjoyed your stay :D".
her reaction to bahiyyih is so relatable lmao
Right like I'm sorry she's talented but how tf did she get 2nd it makes no sense😭
@@safiyakhan8473 OFC it's very obvious why she made it on 2nd place. Huge fanbase plus brother privelage
@@diffie.hellmannn yes I know :(
@@diffie.hellmannn You are talking af is Xiaoting didn't have a fanbase from the show he participated in China, or if others didn't have BIG fanbases thanks to Aespa, for example, saying that they were supporting #1, or Yujin who ALREADY debuted, or maybe Mashiro, who was knew by a lot of people cuz she was a JYP trainee and is Itzy's friend, or Yurina, who is a well-know actrees in Japan and has a big fanbase, or aaaaaaaall chinese trainees who participated in Produce 101 China loooool
Almost all of them had a big fanbase, why are you crying for Bahi" "privilege" if almost all of them have that stupid "privilege". Just bullshit.
@@ryu4ever 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Well said sister
I really wanna support Cgroup girls right now! They're so talented!
kind of late buddy... 😭
its too late.
Guysss, if the ratio of korean votes & international votes isn't "1 : 20"
Xiaoting's will be in the 5th place, Yaning in the 6th place and Ruiqi in 7th place. 😭😭😭😭
Except for her being part of C group and Bora, I don't think there was anybody left that she actually performed or interacted with.
Jiao is the twin that lasted longer, so she still had some practice time with the shoot team so she interacted with yujin, hiyyih, myah
You mean you need the TV no showcase what's up 24/7 nonstop obviously no
The whole 50/50 weighting was so strange. Bora had more international votes than chaehyeon but placed 15th whereas chaehyeon placed 1st
chaeyeon has ALOT of korean fans apparently
and might be backed by aespa fans in exchange for voting for them??
1 korean vote is equivalent to 9-10 international votes. korean votes have more weigh in voting
@@zee3e Yeah i saw æspa collab on twitter
@@zee3e knetz really love chaehyun more than you think, she is look like standard beauty in korea
@@karinaazzahra8870 but she doesn't have a center aura XD
Imagine if the final group was Xiaoting, Fu Yaning, Su Ruiqi, Yurina, Mashiro, Hikaru, Yujin, Seo Youngeun, and Bora. The perfect combination of talent and visuals. Nevertheless, I am still gonna support the group because they all worked hard to debut.
Would changed Faning and Rui Qi to either Xing Qiao,Yeseo,or Chaehyun but yeah i also agree with that line up!
She is as disappointed as everyone who isn't supporter of Bahiyyih or Chae Hyun... like I was supporting Su Rui Qi, but was happy for each of the 3-9 announcement... but top2 is just so undeserved
I was so surprised cause top 2 wasnt outstanding at all during the entire show
bahiyyih is talented and she deserves to debut, stop hating on her
@@rn7da Girl go get some help. You're effing delusional
@@rn7da oh shut the fck up. she literally can't be seen in the show. how u gonna tell us she's TALENTED?
@@diffie.hellmannn
I wonder how bahiyyih lives with so much hate even though she didn't do anything wrong
KNETS better leave XIaoting alone... How long before they dig into her past to try to find something to cancel her over.. All foreign idols in Korea have a hard time but especially Chinese.... I'm worried for her.. I know she has studied well but she isn't fluent in Korean and has no one in the group to talk to....
@@Evelyn-oy4ueLiving in the West it's so weird seeing people being so openly discriminatiory with no backlash.... All of C girls were beautiful 😭 every trainee there was beautiful...
The final line up was just as disappointing as their group's name
Please respect to the one's who have debuted. They come so far.
@@sha6146
Please respect to the actual top 9 that's not getting any privilege by korean votes. They come so far.
@@odeliamili7129sorry, i didn't meant that they also didn't come far and I am respecting them. I just want this hatred to the group to be lessen you know? Thank you though for having a conversation to me. Nice knowing you!!
@@sha6146 The hatred to the group will exist as long as the fact that this group is formed by koreans's xenophobia still exist on this world.
@@odeliamili7129 yeah ik :((
He was sad. Jiao I totally understand you, I really hoped to see that more girls from the C group will debut :''( they were one of the most talented in the program
I couldn't care less for this group, feels like a big joke to CN and JP contestants...
Bye then
Yep.
agree, not gonna stan.. bet the fandom will suck too, looking at how they brought bahi to 2nd place not being able to acknowledge that she does not deserve 2nd place considering her screentime and talent at this point in her career.
@@serendipitized IOI have sohye, Izone have Hyewon, WannaOne have Lai Guanlin.
Bahiyyih is undoubtly better than those people, at least she got the basic idol skill plus solid fandom who will actually buy their albums.
this kind of lineup is the reason why mnet rigged the rankings from previous shows. now i understand.
Mnet lowkey knew what they were doing huh? Lmaoo
On the one hand,we are global girl group, the other hand,Korean vote: International vote =50%:50%. Is Korea = half of the world??? What a joke Mnet!
well they're based in korea, ofc korean opinions matter more unless your country wants to take them in and fund their whole career LMAO korean fans are the base of the group and what matters because they are K-POP
@@jiaverse yeah but if you look at twice the foreign members are the most popular in the group..
It’s ridiculous how xiaoting went from rank 1 to rank 9 but I guess it’s by voting not choosing 🙁
i was honestly expecting yurina or xiaoting to fight for first place against chaehyun or against each other, never imagined xiaorina out of the final top3. i'm still so sad.
i read somewhere that a yurina fanbase stopped voting for her becaushe she is from a rich family, but idk, also some people thought she had assured debut so they stopped voting
and xiaoting, well, she is chinese so it was obvious that she will not be top1/top2 or center
@@daianatorrez792 i think people stopping voting because they thought she was safe makes more sense
the way she closed it on biyihh's speech 😭
Haha same
Mood
💀
You all are just hating at this point. If you don't want to support the group then don't. If you still do, then do so. It's like you're all proud on hating over a 17 year old girl. Your hate won't change things
Cancel liang jiao or whoever twin that is!!
""Our Chinese sisters debut in China""
Queen Spill the Tea❤️
Liang Jiao reaction is so freaking real.
If it weren't for Korean:International 50:50 🤔
1. Huening Bahiyyih
2. Sakamoto Mashiro
3. Seo Young Eun
4. Choi Yu Jin
5. Shen Xiao Ting
6. Fu Ya Ning
7. Su Rui Qi
8. Ezaki Hikaru
9. Kim Chae Hyun
holy hell this lineup is good. 4:3:2 is a decent proportion, we have cute members and fierce members, kang yeseo doesn't have to debut as a literal minor and xiaoting isn't alone
(although i'd give xiaoting the first place and swap hiyyih for yurina, hiyyih is mad talented but she wasn't debut ready because of her age and very short training period)
She forgot about the 9th ranking😭
Cuz it mad frustrating
it’s absolutely ridiculous that shen xiao ting is the only c group trainee. she probably expected that, but still; it is simply unexceptable to market this group as a “global” group when 6/9 trainees are korean.
i understand her, when they announced p01 i didn't even pay attention to it anymore😢
I also think, fans should really consider the dynamic of the group that they would like for the next survival program.
I genuinely have not seen Bahiyyih interact and build a strong connection with the other girls (honestly never seen her so why did she even have fans (we know why, it’s her brother))
A solid fan favourite Yurina and Su Rui Qi who the other girls like and respect for their talents and individuality. Gone to waste.
bahiyyih's fame is not only because of her brother, she is also talented. Why can't you see that?
@@rn7da Keep on defending your bAhIyYiH. You're doing a great job!
@@diffie.hellmannn
yuh girl, Not because your fave didn't debut you hate the rest, you won't change anything anymore
@@diffie.hellmannn you're so childish lmao
@@rn7da At the beginning bahhi was my pick because I didn't have anyone to vote for, but as the missions went by, (like other picks I added) I never saw her take initiative, she never stood out, she never tried a position and I stopped liking her. How does someone who does not stand out become popular? She had the advantage of the brother of the popular group and big company and most of that fandom denies it, you can go to twitter and check the fanbases and the vast majority are fans of TX* and BT*.
If it wasn't because of the 50-50 rules (which wasn't fair), there will be 3 Chinese in the group which are Xiaoting, Ruiqi, and Yaning.
But the Korea 50% vote rules allowed Dayeon and Yeseo to debut since they got a lot of votes from Korea.
I know it's her dream but can Xiaoting say thanks but no thanks to Mnet as boycott?
I don’t see why she would, at least not right now she would probably want to enjoy the feeling for a little bit if she did decided to boycott
why would she be stupid and do that? bye.
that would be a great idea but i don't see why she would
The Chinese trainees deserve so much more, I understand how she feels..
the visible shock in Liang Jiao's face when she heard Huening Bahiyyih called, I think that's a sign enough. She cheered for her C group and J group team mates the whole time, this shit is fucking ridiculous, Mnet really decided to say fuck the rest of the world, 50% of the votes come from korea but everyone can only vote for one person. No fucking shit Kgroup trainees win, they almost definitely have higher fanbases in korea.
When bahiyying is called the comments are question marks lol
who cares? at least she debuted lol
We know why
my ideal lineup was shen xiaoting, kawaguchi yurina, kim bora, guinn myah, seo youngeun, kim chaehyun, nonaka shana, kang yeseo and wenzhe :(
Support bora at cherry bullet
Sounds good 🥺
@@assyifaaisya8398 yes ofc !! ive loved them since debut and i hope more people will continue to support them after gp999 instead of saying they will and then forgetting about them yknow. I hope fnc will promote them better :( they're way too talented
this lineup is too good fawk 😢
YES FINALLY SOMEONE SAID WEN ZHE, BECAUSE SHE REALLY IS TALENTED, I WAS SOBBING BECAUSE SHE'S NOT DEBUTING, MNET LITERALLY ROBBED ALL CGROUP
She looks so done about the result
I'm not hating on bahi but yeah there is more deserving girls than her. She isn't one to blame but the people who voted for her. Most people vote for her doesn't even watch the show and just know she's a sister of kai. They just want interaction between the two in the camera but didn't care about her talent. Sadly, because of this mindset of people the deserving girls got robbed
Exactly bahiyyih don't deserve this
This
Her expression same with me when announcing 2nd reserve candidate for Top 1 🥺
4:02 that's exactly how I reacted when they announced another K-group 😂😂😂 She's such a mood
Salute to the creator to only show the main points… it really saves time :)
Thank you for watching ☺️
Her reaction is all of our reaction too. Even the trainees didn't expect bahiyyih to debut, from their faces when her name's called
same. fucking same.
knetz aren’t interested in survival shows anymore. you can see it on their votes, if you compare the korean votes itself to the amount of votes during produce era (which only uses korean votes), you can definitely see a huge difference.
mnet made a “difference” to invite japanese and chinese to the show to gain attention worldwide.
But at the end of the show, most korean trainees will eventually debut for the sake of their pride. Like there’s no way a kpop girlgroup will consist of more foreign members than korean. And also, 1 korean votes could weigh 8-10 intl votes.
That actually says a lot, especially with the one pick system where they didn’t need to vote for non korean contestant. For example, xiaoting and other top ranked foreign contestants dropped from the top9 during the interim rank, and only 3 made it. It’s because they were used as a filler vote (before one pick system, they must vote for 1k1c1j). it’s sounds unfair,, but you know koreans are the one who runs the show…
I'm honestly shocked Xiaoting came in 9th and Yurina didn't even get in the top 9. I was expecting them to be numbers 1 & 2.
out of the thing that i regret in my life, is when i watch this show. Chinese trainees deserve better, su rui qi deserves better.
The way she was chanting “C group, C group, C group” All of C group deserves better
I can feel her disappointment through the screen
"Now I hope our C sisters debut in China" Bruh, I totally agree. After witness 1-8 line up, seems like they push Xiaoting up so global fan not 100% upset because no one from C group chosen
This is a group composed of girls who barely performed together, they're gonna have to work hard on their chemistry
Her reaction when P2 is being announced is totally me. The exactly same reaction and at that time I almost things that I got ears problem like lmao wth like I never expect it because in my mind I already expects other people who much likely to get it
the bottom 3 should just do a sub unit and leave the group
By the end of the series xiaoting was really my only top 3 trainee but I can understand why liang jiao is upset. imagine going through this tough experience, getting mistreated by the staff an evil edited by mnet, just to only have one C girl debut... instead of the outcome I'm more upset about the mistreatment/evil editing because we did get a solid group in the end, I just wish the C trainees were able to have a better experience on the show
She looked so stressed out at 4:15 😭😂 damn she's relatable
4:08 SAME JIAO SAMEE, the moment they announced bahhiyyih i got so pissed tho cause i was expecting for xiao ting :(
For reals
But good thing, xiao was still debuting with them. Bahiyyih really did deserve it.
@@sha6146 Yeah but there was trainees that deserved it more
@@____Sunflower____ like yurina, ruqi, wenzhe. Even myah lol
@@sha6146 Are you serious? she needed more practice
Even twice is more "global" than this group, i’m quite disappointed
This group could have been better
There is like only one difference between their line up though. Twice has like 4 foreign members while Kep1er has 3. Not much of a difference
@@sha6146 yeah but the concept of the entire show was to have a GLOBAL group with chinese, japaneses and korean members… they bring 33chineses trainees for only one debuting ? (And She almost didn’t make it)
Same with the j trainees…
At the start of the show, everyone thought the ratio would be 3:3:3 due to the system vote
They could just debut a group without having to waste the time of foreign trainees who clearly didn’t have a chance to debut (with the system of vote)
@@loso_ll the ratio would have been like that if only mnet still used the C-J-K vote. I was also shocked by how the ranking was like that because I wanted my picks to be there :((
I really thought Xiaoting and Su Ruiqi can debut together 🤧
Girl! I relate!!! The top 2 was..........
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*Ok bye!
I appreciate you for going away and not continue however she still deserves it
the fact is , they don’t like Chinese but they still want to get money from them. So they include 1 as a “hostage” , so they can do evil editing to others members and give a low rank to meet Koreans’ expectation. “Win-Win” for both Mnet & Koreans, money for Mnet and fulfillment for Koreans.
( Sorry my opinion become a bit offensive , but I’m pissed off by the result, it’s my first time to know, a show can try so hard to make a rank such ridiculous that all first 6th to be themselves and also claimed as “international” And most of the trainees had even less screen time than a Korean trainee’s mother?! ) I like all the girls, but Mnet no way!!
Mnet is a corporation. They know they can't sell kpop to China but they used C trainees as a way to get more atention to the show. And in the end they put Xiao Ting at the final lineup as a joke to say "There is your C member, this is fair." Y'all know whatever her name is, has a big fandom because of her brother and crazy boyband fans spend a lot more money. Mnet knew it and that's why they did edited C members as chaotic as they could. They stole all this talented trainees their debut just because their own interests.
? I'm sure they didn't want her as well, evident with her barely having screentime except for the introduction episode. It's just that she has crazy support from her fanbase (some of that fanbase of course is from her connection). But the voting system really crewed the C-group and its so obvious Mnet doesn't care about them tho😞
stop hating on bahiyyih she doesn't deserve it, that's not her fault
@@rn7da Yeah, you're right. But what I don't get is, why Bahiyyih needed to join this survival. Even if she debuted in a not so high-tier entertainment company. Just by her name alone, she'd automatically get some buzz and make it. It's just sad that some girls who actually joined this because they lack opportunities didn't get to debut.
@@janthony5386 Idk but maybe she doesn't _want_ to make it in just by her name alone? Maybe she wanted to show that she could grow and do well herself. But no matter what happened during the show I'm sure we'll see much more improvement from her now that she's in the final debut lineup.
Knowing knets, i'm honestly terrified for Xiaoting.... they will dig into her past until they find something to hate her for... no Chinese idol in Korea is safe from discrimination... I'm so worried for her.
the final lineup was 6 koreans and none of them was Kim Bora????? 💀bruh at least produce had main vocalist but here...
Yaa but the top 1 is on par with Kim Bora even tho I think Bora is better. But ya this line is ok expect the top 2. The spot wasted, the spot could have been someone more talented
@@kevinlim2309 agree
Liang jiao is such a mood, we had the same reaction
Chinese trainees deserves justice from the shit they had to go thro cause of knetz and mnet
Am I the only one who struggled to see her watching this.. woww such a pure soul