Do you think the CNE should publish the results? By law the results should be tabulated in the next 48 hours after totalization. After two weeks, please help me understand why wouldn’t they publish those results if they would instantly and easily prove the opposition and the US wrong
@@onielrodriguez9194 Dictators aren't cool, but that's not a "but". The US as a singular country is responsible for 3 out of 4 dictatorships arising after WW2. The US should be contained and dictators aren't cool. The two go hand-in-hand.
@anli9730 it's about getting perspective from people on the ground living through maduro's regime. The one guest spoke to this a little near the end, but failed to touch on so much more of what actual citizens are going through. Most were looking to this election as a means of change and hope, now many are trying to leave like the millions before them.
@@machsimillian14 look for spanish media from other countries that do that here, they do this a lot, and everybody agree, that maduro has to go and stop going after us for wanting a change
Don't forget the racket of taking from poorer less powerful people in our own country. The country can get by just fine without rackets but not oligarchs and giant conglomerates. They go belly up if their conspiracy with govt on patents and research is halted. Point being, what we do abroad we do at home.
somebody didn't pay attention in Capitalism 101. What, next you're going to ask why we need poor people to exploit for cheap labor in the name of corporate profits? Still wonder why neither party puts a dent in poverty? Same reason slave owners didn't have a habit of freeing slaves. Capitalism doesn't work without an underclass to exploit. The sh*t Uncle Sam doesn't want you to know...
A very good question. I genuinely think the US as we know it cannot exist without modern imperialism like this. it's going to take a lot to turn over from this horrific stain on humanity.
@@G00PM45T3R As we know it, yes. Most people fear the kind of change it would take. But by denying that change, they’re just setting themselves up for much worse outcomes later. Probably not too much later though.
@@fatemehm2949 u can see Maduro's conscience shine thru him, and the reluctance to disclose election results in 2024 speaks of collusion unlike in 2018 when Trump tried to overthrow VZ with his tweets and weaponizing fb
@@stevenkellysillick4042That's what they said last time. And many times before. They don't want the country to function independently. They want it to help fuel America's ambitions, like most other countries. I'm not saying Maduro is a perfect leader. But it is a known fact that the US has tried to iIIegaIIy change the course of the country's future numerous times.
The difference is trump tried to do what maduro is doing but the American system heald up since it's a stronger democracy Whereas Venezuela is a corrupt dictatorship
@@DanielMartinez-rt2rn the point of that question is if everyone believed that Maduro won, everything would be peaceful in Venezuela. The only thing that created chaos was the publishing of voting data by the opposition party and the the government's refusal to provide this same information to the Venezuelans supporting their declaration of the winner.
A difference is that in the USA there were accusations of fraud and government systems were used to publicly demonstrate it was not true. The various USA governments (states published the vote tallies In Venezuela the government has refused to make public the voting tallies that support the governments choice of winner. Regarding the Jan 6 2021 event in the USA there would have been little wrong if rioters had not invaded the government building, the Capitol, and threaten the safety of government officials. There is a big difference between the democratic system in the USA and Venezuela. But Venezuela can serve as a good lesson and warning against allowing one political party gain complete control of the government as happened with the popular uprising that support Hugo Chavez in 1998 and constitutional changes shortly after aimed at keeping the Chavez party in control in the future.
Dimitri Lascaris (Canadian Lawyer) on his youtube channel has a segment on his experience as an observer of the recent Venezuelan election. You will see a very, very secure process. The US needs to stop regime change operations in Latin America! Oops, I forgot, we are exceptional and make our own rules.
Sure, so secure. It's easy to opine when you see only what they want. Would you think that the elections of your country is secure when all branches are in control of the official party? The government of Venezuela has centralized everything. I need a new identity card, but because I live in Germany and the system of identification is under the control of the ministry of justice, I have to travel to Venezuela to do that instead of being offered by the Venezuela's consulate. You don't know how corrupt is the Venezuelan bureaucracy and the government's institutions.
@@ramonalejandrosuare Dude, Venezuelan politicians have been corrupt for decades and this government is not a exception. Maduro is not popular; Chávez is a different story, but Maduro is not. If the communist party is also against PSUV and Maduro, then that would tell you something. If you don't know how it is to live under the bureaucracy under this government and how its economic policies failed because they thought oil is going to last forever.
@@CarolbulangerThe US has crippIed their economy intentionally. Also, I wouldn't trust their information if I were you. These are the same things they said about just about every democratic leader they've overthrown. As an African, I know of this well.
@@chuletaization Diem was a nasty dictator chosen by the CIA because he was Catholic. They arrested monks, burned down temples, made a law against celebrating Buddhas birthday (that’s like a law against Christmas in the US. When Buddhists protested, Catholic troops fired live rounds into the crowd killing a few. All that ruined the negotiations with Kruschev and kicked off the American War. So Diem was a pretty bad guy. Not saying he deserved a bullet in the back of the head tho, that’s not Buddhist.
NSAM 263 was real, not just a claim in the movie JFK. Jack was pulling everyone out of 'nam. Given the date that he signed it, it sounds like the CIA "went rogue" and carried out their plans for Vietnam's resources. That sounds like something that would result in even more people at that infamous alphabet agency getting fired.... Of course, Kennedy could no longer fire anyone just 3 weeks after the Diems were killed. NSAM 273 (signed by LBJ) reversed 263 and eight months later was the Gulf of Tonkin "incident". If you're willing (in the early 1980's) to hire and train people from a neighboring country to overthrow a democratically elected government in Central America? Merely to protect the (banana and other) profits of a famous and already incredibly wealthy family? Well then 20.2 million barrels of Oil consumed domestically in the USA every day will surely "motivate" the alphabets. They'll probably get full cooperation from elected branches of government as well. Sure, we produce a lot domestically right now (apparently refinement makes oil travel a bit complex) but that's "right now". Venezuela has the most reserves of any OPEC nation. Finally this : In the 1970's and before, just one breadwinner (on average, per family) was driving to work. Now? 2 breadwinners per family. Make wages liveable again and you're potentially saving, not quite 50% on Commuter energy consumption but you're definitely cutting consumption. _Oil company profits as well? Yes. Someone say; "Bingo, that's why"._
It's been 30 days. Where are the official results now ? Everybody who got up to defend Maduro will have to have a long think about their political compass.
Yeah, I think we all know this. Even those who defend the Americans know it. I'm not even a "fan" of Maduro. But it is very clear that the US is meddIing in their affairs for material gain.
What a disappointment for this channel to have narrated the event outside the crude and dictatorial reality of the Maduro regime. It makes me wonder if I'm being manipulated on the other issues, since as a Venezuelan I'm intimately familiar with the criminal reality of the Maduro regime. Shame on Democracy Now.
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Im not a fan of Maduro, but 60 years of an embargo didn't lead to anything good in Cuba, so not surprising that economy wrecking sanctions against Venezuela haven't caused anything good
it is fraud tho and it comes from a real venezuelan brodie, maduro robbed the elections and theres actual proof of the acts committed, hackers have seized the CNE’s computers and have actually found the actual results
To clarify, here are some inconsistencies presented in this video: 1) the CNE had less than two weeks to present results; it has not done that. 2) the ballots presented by the opposition have been examined by the UN and other organizations and there little evidence that discredits them 3) being aligned to the right is not the same as being wrong. This shows a lack of clarity and bias. Thanks
Is true to admit Guaido was a disgusting scam, but Edmundo was chosen fairly. The opposition is a mere cover of stained corruption which is manipulated by chavismo, but putting him is the only way of getting rid of them without triggering victimization diplomatically. That, or just an inner armed rebellion but this second thing is easier said than done.
Omiten el pequeño detalle de que - las actas en manos de la oposición son tan oficiales como las que oculta el CNE - que el CNE es una instancia cooptada totalmente por el Régimen - que, igualmente, el Tribunal Supremo de Justicia es una instancia más del Régimen - y que el cuento de Gobierno vs oposición ya cambió para ser dictadura vs un pueblo hambriento de justicia y libertad
Commentators omit some key details: . Ballots rendered by the opposition parties are as official as the ones the CNE refuses to made public . The National Election Council is an organization co-opted by the Maduro’s Regime. . The Supreme Court in Venezuela has been co-opted by the Government too . This is not more a they say we say situation; is not a Left-right controversy; it is a overwhelming majority of the people claiming for justice and freedom. This include people that in the past supported Chavez.
@@rrodriguezbe Thanks. Another source for the election voting data (Actas) is from Maduro's political party. they also have the same copies of the voting data. The claim that the opposition party is not proving fraud should not be relevant to Venezuela or the Supreme Court. They should be evaluating the real and official data and showing it. They aren't. Does anyone think the Supreme Court will make the voting data public? Not likely.
No, they are discontented with the lack of services provided by their government and the authoritarian rule forced on individuals. Maduro could remove all sanctions very easily: allow honest democracy.
I am an anti-imperliast from El Salvador. My partner is Venezuelan born but left before chavez. I hear it all from my partner, who despises maduro and the form of socalism that has developed in venezuela. I also do my own research. I have to say this is the most balanced youtube video I have been able to find. Most mainstream media completely ignores any talk about the impact of sanctions. And downplays the serious corruptuon and violence committed by the opposition over the decades. Folks really need to do their own redearch to get the whole picture. It is not as straightforward as you are being told. And also, there is not one singular venezuelan voice. When people tell you to "listen to venezuelans", this also includes those who want U.S. interference out of their country. I have listened to different interviews from all types of venezuelans. I think it is fair to say there is discontent. But to say they ALL want maduro out and ALL want U.S. intervention is naive and selfish.
I would like to add to you thoughts, that the displeasure Venezuelans are showing in the election against Maduro, does not necessarily mean they don't support socialism in their government. Being against Maduro is being against government corruption and mismanagement of services for Venezuela. Maybe people should be talking about Maduro not being a very good manager of socialism. Venezuelans want better management.
Venezuela is an oil-bearing society that has the potential to be a big rival to American oil companies. The shock to the US system could be very severe if there was a oil rival in Latin America. This is the economic reason the US State Department with iron necessity launches attacks on Venezuela, it is only to slow down Venezuela’s capacity to be a competitor to the US. Should Venezuela seek to develop their oil rich reserves through arrangements with Brazil, India, China or Russia, all hell will break loose in Washington. There is an ironic element to US policy in that what they do not want to happen will happen, almost driven to happen, as oil becomes the currency of a nation all currencies want a commodity that will give their respective nations the same or better political and economic advantages. To be king of the hill of the world market today is to own and control two primary commodities very few nations are allowed to get their hands on, i.e., oil and nuclear weapons. All this competition driven by the power of commodities over humanity will lead to a third world war because it cannot lead to anything else.
@@fatemehm2949 On a social-psychological level the point I make about “...the power of commodities over humanity...” is a power objects have over human beings...none of us exercise “Free Will” not even the Oil Oligarchs exercise free will, as we are dependent on Oil or nuclear weapons. The car and the car industry, the workers in the car industry are an accessory to Oil do not exercise Free Will. Government, the Middle Class, Working Class, all Humanity in this era of Oil and Nuclear weapons has no free will and/or self-determination while life in general is directed by commodities in particular.
@@MrDXRamirez Yes and No. Humans need to make nature and natural resources to the benefits of all humanity. So the problem is not oil the problem is the Imperialism and its octopus' legs stretching to different corners of the World. Humans' greed and Western Imperialism's tricks need to be monitored closely by freedom loving people.These two guests are not freedom fighters. They are played by Imperialism
- The Carter Center - a gold standard of neutral objectivity - has said that the Venezuelan “cannot be considered democratic. … The election took place in an environment of restricted freedoms for political actors, civil society organizations, and the media. Throughout the electoral process, the CNE [the Venezuelan election council] demonstrated a clear bias in favor of the incumbent.” - A panel of UN election experts, and the only other group officially invited by the CNE to observe the elections, has reported that the elections lacked “basic transparency and integrity,” criticizing the CNE for announcing Maduro as the winner without showing the tallies, which it said “had no precedent in contemporary democratic elections.” - Days before the election, Human Rights Watch said, “Arrests of opposition members, arbitrary disqualifications of opposition candidates, and efforts to further restrict civic space have severely marred the electoral process in Venezuela. The elections are taking place in a context of years of systematic human rights abuses by the government and a severe humanitarian crisis that has forced roughly eight million people to leave the country.”
The Venezuela leadership {like that of Argentina 2 years ago} has been distancing their nation from the IMF-dollar casino System. Instead, they are reorientating toward the BRICS plus dynamic, and may join the BRICS in October!
Maduro can keep his oil, but if there is a limited market to sell to it’s not going to do him much good. US was largest consumer of VZ oil, but not with the sanctions
Yes, after maduro and his regime destroyed pdvsa they sing a contract with chevron to continue to sell oil to the USA which was just extended a few days ago, as you can see it’s all a charade
Both things can be true... Maduro is an ass who should not be in power. But that doesnt mean the US should intervene and doesnt mean people should support the current "opposition". It might be necessary to support them just to bridge to a more stable democratic system. Because Maduro will not allow that. But the US doesnt want real democracy in Venezuela either
la cosa es que bajo la oposicion no nos perseguiran por una publicacion, incluso si es inocente, tengo conocidos que fueron agarrados, tu vision es muy simplista.
US has no right to remove a seat president in Venezuela, they need to mind their own business. The seat president to get their ambassador out of Vénézuéla right now stop interfering in people business. Their gas is for sale, is not Haiti that democrat destroying.
Yeah no...all of these sites have been pushing propaganda for maduro. The people want him gone. Just because you're anti-imperialist doesn't mean that you overlook abuses of power in plain view. Wanting the US to stop interfering with Venezuela doesn't automatically make the government legit and desired by the people.
I’ve been stunned how democracy now has been pretending that Maduro’s regime did not BLATANTLY steal the election. And I say this as supporter of Chavez.
Unfortunately Venezuela is one of their blind spots. Similar to how they are with China (though in that case it’s because they are too harsh on China).
Many many channels have been doing the same. It's as mystifying as how the world continues to allow for the atrocities in Palestine. Neither makes sense
Since the CNE hasn't released the uncounted ballot receipt evidence, I don't see how you can say "blatantly" when there are still shadows of a doubt. But I'm open to hearing your perspective if you'd like to share it, or share your sources
To me it's just common sense voters always punish leaders for economic down turns. They don't care if it was caused by events out side of control of the leader. There's no way Maduro could win in a fair election.
Amnesty for all the real charges of drug trafficking. El Cartel De Los Soles is a Venezuelan organization headed by high-ranking members of the Armed Forces of Venezuela who are involved in international drug trade under the complicit approval of chavez, maduro and his posse.
"As Americans, we need to understand the root causes of why so many people are leaving Venezuela and coming to the U.S. Their currency has lost its value, jobs are scarce, and people are desperate to find stability. Simply closing the borders won't solve the underlying issues because people can find other ways to enter. While I'm not into politics, I believe that by uncovering the truth behind this crisis, we can help Venezuela reclaim its stability and restore the decent living conditions it once had."
Oh! I think you mean the conditions before American backing one rebel group after another to achieve a regime friendly to American companies and organizations that allow the resources and manpower from other countries for profits inherently tied to the American dollar? Or do you mean the conditions they had before European global land acquisition and exploitation of the indigenous peoples, under the rich merchants and militaries of the most powerful monarch and oligarchy leaders of the "civilized world"?
We don't need to understand the root causes. We need to LISTEN to the people of those countries and help THEM build their own future. Not the USDA 85/15% leanest approved future
all it takes is for the Venezuelan government to allow democracy to happen freely in their country. That should be simple, but it has not happened. Maybe someone should discuss how their constitution has changed to promote dictatorship, making it very difficult to remove the political party in power.
Most people that have opinions on Venezuela elections have little to no idea how our electoral system works, and did not even research all the electoral activities that take place before and on the day. Maduro was the one candidate the left had, the " opossition " had over 5 . Anyone who calls themselves a revolutionary or part of the left and chooses to overlook the main superior goal of battling 🇺🇸 imperialism, because of contradictions within chavismo,or critiques against Maduro, is a comfortable hypocrite. The fact that the discussion is over results and ballots and not over the criminal sanctions placed upon us just tells you what the moral compass in the world points to. Bravo Leonardo❤ por tu digna postura. Viva Chavez y Fidel y viva Palestina libre.
pero que clase de mitomana eres? soy venezolano y las pruebas de que las elecciones no fueron limpias son demasiadas y contundentes, que te pasa en la mente?
Thanks for saying the truth and keeping a level head. People are very quick to buy into propganda. And then they end up regretting their choices. I don't know if he won or not, but even if he did, the US would still be doing what it's currently doing. They just want him gone.
This seemed like a reasonable video and discussion about the Venezuelan election. However, when I go to the comment section it immediately jumps away from Venezuelan democracy to USA international affairs. Again, the smokescreen comes up to change the topic from the responsibilities of the Venezuelan government to promote democracy and the political power of its people. I heard the excuse again that the government has not made public the voting details data because it has 30 days to do so. We know they have access to all of that data in order to conclude Maduro won. It seems easier for the Maduro government to mobilize its police/military/collectivo gangs against demonstrators rather than to release voting data. Why?
It's my second commentary bc I hadn't listened to the end of the talk in the first one and I think what we're watching playing out here is also the unequivocal exposition of both the corrosion of the left, nationally and globally, and the antidemocratic character of the representative bourgeois liberal "democracy". First, one guest said that the global left cannot attach the support for Bolivarian revolution to Maduro being in power and there's a lot of problems here, connected to what I said against the representative democracy that only represents the interests of groups whatever they are and not the majority of the people: Venezuela's situation cannot be decided as a global dispute between sides, it's a sovereign country and when its people are hungry it's not "the global left" that feeds them. On the other hand, Leonardo Flores is distorting the situation to oblige all the fruits in the basket to be orange or apple, so if you are against Trump and Bolsonaro you must be against Venezuelan opposition AS IF that means to be pro Maduro no matter the shit he does or says - Leonardo Flores and the horrible "global left" are just repeating the one sided and dictatorial division that run and ruined the very left in the post WWII with the false dilemma that to be against U$A and capitalism you must be pro whatever shit was said and done by the communists in power. Those people learned nothing and that's what has made me start to advocate for global and local participatory democracy bc this cat and mouse game only serves the professional politicians in both sides who are mostly representative of groups and lobbies and not of the citizens. One of the major problems that led to the corrosion of the left both locally and globally is its adherence to the rules of the representative democracy which is inherently antipopular and antidemocratic that's why it's now totally taken by fascists around the world. And finally, no one fighting in this is fighting for the people of Venezuela but for its own agenda, political and economic power and fossil fuel, the same for the left and the right, be Brazil or U$A or Europe: NO ONE CARES FOR THE INTERESTS AND NEEDS OF THE PEOPLES wherever in the world that's why I say that representative democracy won't never serve the people's interests, it's against its core functioning, so only participatory democracy can save peoples around the world from bad govts of whatever the ideology bc in the end they don't act quite differently in their thirst for power - watch Bolivia that it was the nearest to a socialist govt and now it's a mess with even allegations of auto coup besides the military, totally corroded by the attachment to power and capitalism, while people are in crisis and divided. Sorry if I was not precise and clear. São Paulo, 13/August/2024 - 14h05 (-3GMT).
Have you paid attention to the plans Machado has proposed for a future Venezuela? Far right politicians are a very rare breed in Latin America. Right and Left are not important anymore. More critical is their support for democracy. Their promise to leave office if they are not successfully helping their country and people.
@@ThedL-h3m Pero el TSJ es el maximo instancia en vza, y en el poder de la ley yo creo, aun que fue el trabajo del cne, en este situaccion el TSJ manda en el territorio venezolano
@@XRPSwan pero sabes acaso lo que pasa en mi pais? todos los poderes tienen como presidentes personas que fueron miembro publico del partido de chavez, como elvis amoroso del cne, y william saab del tsj
Mr Flores - what’s with the picture of the White House in the background? Are you representing the US, or just trying to add “legitimacy” to your comments? What you should have in the background is a picture of the Machado rally with 10’s of thousands of unhappy voters. You, or your family, must be on the Maduro payroll.
First, the disagreements in this segment seemed too tepid to be worth calling a “debate”. Mr Velasco, who appeared to me fairly level-headed, did note that Maduro has lost the support of many staunchly Chavista neighborhoods. Mr Flores, on the other hand, seems to be living in a parallel reality. His comparison of Gonzalez and Trump is downright crazy. Also, note that he twice evaded answering why he thought the CNE’s was withholding of the detailed tally sheets. (Where the answer is obvious: the sheets show that Gonzalez won.) I applaud Amy for at least mentioning human rights reporting in her introduction, but sadly there was zero attention paid in the interview to eliciting responses to the shooting deaths of a couple dozen people, the arbitrary arrests of around 2,000, the ransacking of the opposition headquarters, the threats to arrest opposition figures, operation Knock-Knock where “enemies of the state” are picked up in the night. Essentially, Venezuela is a litmus test for those on the left who are motivated by principle, and those (like Max Blumenthal, Katie Harper, Aaron Mate, Code Pink, the National Lawyer’s Guild, and many more) who are driven by dogma. These are people who are happy to quote Amnesty International, the Carter Center, and the UN when their findings accord with their world view, but who ignore or repudiate these findings when they don’t like what they say. Final thought: the left (or portions thereof) and the right share the common fallacy that Venezuela is a referendum on socialism. The referendum here is on human rights and dignity and fairness, on authoritarianism and oppression and corruption. I encourage listeners of Democracy Now not be on the wrong side of history when it comes to Venezuela.
Excellent, especially your final statement. Governments everywhere should take note that over-centralization of government and making political parties more important than what they do for the people of their countries will lead to authoritarianism, hardships for their people and loss of democracy. This is true for socialism, capitalism, any form of social order. Venezuela has experience this during the past ~century both left and right. Suggested reading on Venezuelan politics and governance: Allan Carias
nah frl they needa get real venezuelans on this shit with the actual regime that they experienced cus this chicano author has heard and known of that but hasnt experiemced it like me
I don't think Venezuela should have an opposition. I think the people who've been running Venezuela for the past 25 years should continue to run it forever.
Not really. Venezuela simply eliminated the middle class and joined them with the poor class of Venezuelans. The rich stayed rich by either leaving Venezuela or joining the power structure of the Maduro regime. They forgot that much of the economic success of the country came from the middle class, people that were educating themselves and making industry work.
The whole world demands and supports that the will of the people of Venezuela be respected. Freedom for Venezuela. Maduro the people of Venezuela do NOT want you they are tired of living in misery!!!!👊👊👊🇻🇪❤️🩹
👉Not sure, however, it's most likely , as its clear he favors maduro and celia - in lowercase on purpose. His reference to "Stop The Steal" ensures he is a chavista / madurista 💫
I am always blown away by all you guys saying the US is somehow to blame for Central America fumbling. I pray that ALL of Latin America can secure their own country so they WILL STAY HOME! Shitting on yer neighbors and sending guys like the ones talking WHILE they are in the US vs home FIGHTING to liberate THEMSELVES... It is silly and pathetic
Why the us and the west won't leave this country alone is not a mystery. You can't just take a country's resources.
Ohhh but you can! And they might get Essequibo too if Citgo gets carved up
i mean, it's not a mystery. world's largest proven oil reserves in Venezuela.
@@nohaydeque334 Without vza oil, we would be looking at 280 dollars a barrel
Sure. You should have been born in Nazi Germany and the USA should have left that country alone.
Do you think the CNE should publish the results? By law the results should be tabulated in the next 48 hours after totalization. After two weeks, please help me understand why wouldn’t they publish those results if they would instantly and easily prove the opposition and the US wrong
No matter what you think you should not support the US intervening in any of these Latin American countries anymore
True, but at the same time dictators aren't cool either lmao
@@onielrodriguez9194 Are you including the one party, no opposition, leader of the US coup government in the Ukraine as well??
@@onielrodriguez9194 Dictators aren't cool, but that's not a "but". The US as a singular country is responsible for 3 out of 4 dictatorships arising after WW2. The US should be contained and dictators aren't cool. The two go hand-in-hand.
@@vladdrakul7851 whataboutism
@@onielrodriguez9194 Yes, so lets tackle Biden and Netanyahu.
Please interview venezuelan citizens.
Amen
Dudes in the interview were born and raised in venezuela. Do you think all venezuelans think exactly alike?
@anli9730 it's about getting perspective from people on the ground living through maduro's regime. The one guest spoke to this a little near the end, but failed to touch on so much more of what actual citizens are going through. Most were looking to this election as a means of change and hope, now many are trying to leave like the millions before them.
@@machsimillian14 exactly
@@machsimillian14 look for spanish media from other countries that do that here, they do this a lot, and everybody agree, that maduro has to go and stop going after us for wanting a change
Can we really not get by as a country without the whole racket of taking from poorer and less powerful nations?
Don't forget the racket of taking from poorer less powerful people in our own country. The country can get by just fine without rackets but not oligarchs and giant conglomerates. They go belly up if their conspiracy with govt on patents and research is halted. Point being, what we do abroad we do at home.
somebody didn't pay attention in Capitalism 101. What, next you're going to ask why we need poor people to exploit for cheap labor in the name of corporate profits? Still wonder why neither party puts a dent in poverty? Same reason slave owners didn't have a habit of freeing slaves. Capitalism doesn't work without an underclass to exploit. The sh*t Uncle Sam doesn't want you to know...
My thoughts exactly. Idk if the US can
A very good question. I genuinely think the US as we know it cannot exist without modern imperialism like this. it's going to take a lot to turn over from this horrific stain on humanity.
@@G00PM45T3R As we know it, yes. Most people fear the kind of change it would take. But by denying that change, they’re just setting themselves up for much worse outcomes later. Probably not too much later though.
Stop interference in affairs of Venezuela
But this time Maduro really lost in the tally
HOW DO YOU KNOW?
@@fatemehm2949 u can see Maduro's conscience shine thru him, and the reluctance to disclose election results in 2024 speaks of collusion unlike in 2018 when Trump tried to overthrow VZ with his tweets and weaponizing fb
@@stevenkellysillick4042That's what they said last time. And many times before. They don't want the country to function independently. They want it to help fuel America's ambitions, like most other countries. I'm not saying Maduro is a perfect leader. But it is a known fact that the US has tried to iIIegaIIy change the course of the country's future numerous times.
@@TD1237 who the fuck are you talking about
Convenient that you cut off the interview clearly not at the end.
I need someone to explain...If USA supports the opposition in other countries then what was the problem with the January 6th opposition?
Exactly, it's hypocrisy...
The difference is trump tried to do what maduro is doing but the American system heald up since it's a stronger democracy
Whereas Venezuela is a corrupt dictatorship
They tried to prevent the peaceful and democratic transfer of power
@@DanielMartinez-rt2rn the point of that question is if everyone believed that Maduro won, everything would be peaceful in Venezuela. The only thing that created chaos was the publishing of voting data by the opposition party and the the government's refusal to provide this same information to the Venezuelans supporting their declaration of the winner.
A difference is that in the USA there were accusations of fraud and government systems were used to publicly demonstrate it was not true. The various USA governments (states published the vote tallies In Venezuela the government has refused to make public the voting tallies that support the governments choice of winner.
Regarding the Jan 6 2021 event in the USA there would have been little wrong if rioters had not invaded the government building, the Capitol, and threaten the safety of government officials.
There is a big difference between the democratic system in the USA and Venezuela. But Venezuela can serve as a good lesson and warning against allowing one political party gain complete control of the government as happened with the popular uprising that support Hugo Chavez in 1998 and constitutional changes shortly after aimed at keeping the Chavez party in control in the future.
We have oil as Venezuela which has the largest oil resources in the world along with minerals and litio.
The US needs to LEAVE VENEZUELA ALONE!!!
No! repression, troture and genocide are violations of universal human rights. The US should NOT overlook any of these attrocities.
CNE should publish the results!
You like dictators? Shocker
@@antoinecharlesdegaulle580 USA's system of government is bourgeois garbage and we have no moral authority to change any regime
Comunista
Hey, I heard Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia, but that probably doesn't have anything to do with anything.
Lift the Sanctions.
no bru what the fuck is wrong with u, want innocent people to die
As much as I don’t like Maduro, ik damn well I don’t like how the US interferes in Latin American Politics
What about Lula and Boric making the same calls for transparency?
Venezuela is their neighbour. The US is not.@@NewDealDem2187
Dimitri Lascaris (Canadian Lawyer) on his youtube channel has a segment on his experience as an observer of the recent Venezuelan election. You will see a very, very secure process. The US needs to stop regime change operations in Latin America! Oops, I forgot, we are exceptional and make our own rules.
Sure, so secure. It's easy to opine when you see only what they want. Would you think that the elections of your country is secure when all branches are in control of the official party? The government of Venezuela has centralized everything. I need a new identity card, but because I live in Germany and the system of identification is under the control of the ministry of justice, I have to travel to Venezuela to do that instead of being offered by the Venezuela's consulate. You don't know how corrupt is the Venezuelan bureaucracy and the government's institutions.
Did he watch the counting?
@@Carolbulanger You sound like January 6th opposition.
@@ramonalejandrosuare Dude, Venezuelan politicians have been corrupt for decades and this government is not a exception. Maduro is not popular; Chávez is a different story, but Maduro is not. If the communist party is also against PSUV and Maduro, then that would tell you something. If you don't know how it is to live under the bureaucracy under this government and how its economic policies failed because they thought oil is going to last forever.
@@CarolbulangerThe US has crippIed their economy intentionally. Also, I wouldn't trust their information if I were you. These are the same things they said about just about every democratic leader they've overthrown. As an African, I know of this well.
Reminds me of Vietnam 1963 when Ambassador Lodge offered Diem amnesty, but he refused and was killed by the CIA faction, with his brother
Amnesty for what? What offences were Diem and Maduro convicted of?
@@chuletaization Diem was a nasty dictator chosen by the CIA because he was Catholic. They arrested monks, burned down temples, made a law against celebrating Buddhas birthday (that’s like a law against Christmas in the US. When Buddhists protested, Catholic troops fired live rounds into the crowd killing a few. All that ruined the negotiations with Kruschev and kicked off the American War. So Diem was a pretty bad guy. Not saying he deserved a bullet in the back of the head tho, that’s not Buddhist.
@@chuletaization being Kennedy's BFF
NSAM 263 was real, not just a claim in the movie JFK.
Jack was pulling everyone out of 'nam. Given the date that he signed it, it sounds like the CIA "went rogue" and carried out their plans for Vietnam's resources. That sounds like something that would result in even more people at that infamous alphabet agency getting fired.... Of course, Kennedy could no longer fire anyone just 3 weeks after the Diems were killed. NSAM 273 (signed by LBJ) reversed 263 and eight months later was the Gulf of Tonkin "incident".
If you're willing (in the early 1980's) to hire and train people from a neighboring country to overthrow a democratically elected government in Central America? Merely to protect the (banana and other) profits of a famous and already incredibly wealthy family? Well then 20.2 million barrels of Oil consumed domestically in the USA every day will surely "motivate" the alphabets. They'll probably get full cooperation from elected branches of government as well. Sure, we produce a lot domestically right now (apparently refinement makes oil travel a bit complex) but that's "right now". Venezuela has the most reserves of any OPEC nation.
Finally this : In the 1970's and before, just one breadwinner (on average, per family) was driving to work. Now? 2 breadwinners per family. Make wages liveable again and you're potentially saving, not quite 50% on Commuter energy consumption but you're definitely cutting consumption. _Oil company profits as well? Yes. Someone say; "Bingo, that's why"._
It's been 30 days. Where are the official results now ? Everybody who got up to defend Maduro will have to have a long think about their political compass.
The Americans want their OIL.....
to sell it to europe lol
Ay no, Rusia and China don't want it...
Yeah, I think we all know this. Even those who defend the Americans know it. I'm not even a "fan" of Maduro. But it is very clear that the US is meddIing in their affairs for material gain.
Where are the actas for the election?
What a disappointment for this channel to have narrated the event outside the crude and dictatorial reality of the Maduro regime. It makes me wonder if I'm being manipulated on the other issues, since as a Venezuelan I'm intimately familiar with the criminal reality of the Maduro regime. Shame on Democracy Now.
No more intervention!!
Thank you for reporting honest news
Alert ‼️ 🚨 don’t give any money to this ONGs if you want support Venezuelans try to support then directly. This kind of ONGs create the problem to get money the situation 🚨
Lift sanctions
Dont fund the opposition
See if economy and quality of life for them improves
Hey! 30 days after proclamation now. What’s the excuse now?
Awesome job DN!
So does this mean Venezuala is becoming more like the US. Or the other way round?
more like us
This isn't our business
it is tho
u wanna see us free or what? wanna get more oil or what
@@sb59kyou claim to want to be free but your opposition leader is a zionist who doesn't want to see palestinians free. Make it make sense.
Yes nothing to to with US affairs. Other than the oil
@@Espen_Bosclearly some are genuinely interested and concerned on it
Im not a fan of Maduro, but 60 years of an embargo didn't lead to anything good in Cuba, so not surprising that economy wrecking sanctions against Venezuela haven't caused anything good
Question? 🙋🏾♂️would being the country with the largest oil reserve play a major role in this supposed “fraud”?
it is fraud tho and it comes from a real venezuelan brodie, maduro robbed the elections and theres actual proof of the acts committed, hackers have seized the CNE’s computers and have actually found the actual results
Amnesty? That's suspiciously funny..
To clarify, here are some inconsistencies presented in this video: 1) the CNE had less than two weeks to present results; it has not done that. 2) the ballots presented by the opposition have been examined by the UN and other organizations and there little evidence that discredits them 3) being aligned to the right is not the same as being wrong. This shows a lack of clarity and bias. Thanks
You are being too nice, this is vulgar propaganda.
@@Ciudadana_Cero de que hablas?
@@ThedL-h3m It is full of lies. The election was stolen from Venezuelans by Maduro.
Another US educated and funded "Democracy" candidate, just like Guiado!!!
Is true to admit Guaido was a disgusting scam, but Edmundo was chosen fairly. The opposition is a mere cover of stained corruption which is manipulated by chavismo, but putting him is the only way of getting rid of them without triggering victimization diplomatically. That, or just an inner armed rebellion but this second thing is easier said than done.
Omiten el pequeño detalle de que
- las actas en manos de la oposición son tan oficiales como las que oculta el CNE
- que el CNE es una instancia cooptada totalmente por el Régimen
- que, igualmente, el Tribunal Supremo de Justicia es una instancia más del Régimen
- y que el cuento de Gobierno vs oposición ya cambió para ser dictadura vs un pueblo hambriento de justicia y libertad
Commentators omit some key details:
. Ballots rendered by the opposition parties are as official as the ones the CNE refuses to made public
. The National Election Council is an organization co-opted by the Maduro’s Regime.
. The Supreme Court in Venezuela has been co-opted by the Government too
. This is not more a they say we say situation; is not a Left-right controversy; it is a overwhelming majority of the people claiming for justice and freedom. This include people that in the past supported Chavez.
@@rrodriguezbe Thanks. Another source for the election voting data (Actas) is from Maduro's political party. they also have the same copies of the voting data. The claim that the opposition party is not proving fraud should not be relevant to Venezuela or the Supreme Court. They should be evaluating the real and official data and showing it. They aren't. Does anyone think the Supreme Court will make the voting data public? Not likely.
People are discontented with the sanctions.
No, they are discontented with the lack of services provided by their government and the authoritarian rule forced on individuals. Maduro could remove all sanctions very easily: allow honest democracy.
quien te dijo? el hijo de maduro? ni idea tienes de lo que pensamos la mayoria
Sanctions are because of repression of the Venezuelan people by the establishment.
I am an anti-imperliast from El Salvador. My partner is Venezuelan born but left before chavez. I hear it all from my partner, who despises maduro and the form of socalism that has developed in venezuela. I also do my own research. I have to say this is the most balanced youtube video I have been able to find. Most mainstream media completely ignores any talk about the impact of sanctions. And downplays the serious corruptuon and violence committed by the opposition over the decades. Folks really need to do their own redearch to get the whole picture. It is not as straightforward as you are being told.
And also, there is not one singular venezuelan voice. When people tell you to "listen to venezuelans", this also includes those who want U.S. interference out of their country. I have listened to different interviews from all types of venezuelans. I think it is fair to say there is discontent. But to say they ALL want maduro out and ALL want U.S. intervention is naive and selfish.
I would like to add to you thoughts, that the displeasure Venezuelans are showing in the election against Maduro, does not necessarily mean they don't support socialism in their government. Being against Maduro is being against government corruption and mismanagement of services for Venezuela. Maybe people should be talking about Maduro not being a very good manager of socialism. Venezuelans want better management.
Bull shit 😏
Wow. Both of your comments are brilliant. Thanks for this. I agree with you two.
La gran mayoria de nosotros queremos a maduro fuera, si quiera lo dudas?
@@duaneinlow8868 lo unico que queremos es poder elegir quien gobierna, y maduro no nos deja
Talk to the majority of Venezuelans
Venezuela is an oil-bearing society that has the potential to be a big rival to American oil companies. The shock to the US system could be very severe if there was a oil rival in Latin America. This is the economic reason the US State Department with iron necessity launches attacks on Venezuela, it is only to slow down Venezuela’s capacity to be a competitor to the US. Should Venezuela seek to develop their oil rich reserves through arrangements with Brazil, India, China or Russia, all hell will break loose in Washington.
There is an ironic element to US policy in that what they do not want to happen will happen, almost driven to happen, as oil becomes the currency of a nation all currencies want a commodity that will give their respective nations the same or better political and economic advantages. To be king of the hill of the world market today is to own and control two primary commodities very few nations are allowed to get their hands on, i.e., oil and nuclear weapons.
All this competition driven by the power of commodities over humanity will lead to a third world war because it cannot lead to anything else.
No habia leido cosa tan estupida hoy. Gracias por ser el primer animalito.
@@Pilostudio very intelligent analysis by @MrDXRamirez
@@fatemehm2949 On a social-psychological level the point I make about “...the power of commodities over humanity...” is a power objects have over human beings...none of us exercise “Free Will” not even the Oil Oligarchs exercise free will, as we are dependent on Oil or nuclear weapons. The car and the car industry, the workers in the car industry are an accessory to Oil do not exercise Free Will. Government, the Middle Class, Working Class, all Humanity in this era of Oil and Nuclear weapons has no free will and/or self-determination while life in general is directed by commodities in particular.
@@MrDXRamirez Yes and No. Humans need to make nature and natural resources to the benefits of all humanity. So the problem is not oil the problem is the Imperialism and its octopus' legs stretching to different corners of the World. Humans' greed and Western Imperialism's tricks need to be monitored closely by freedom loving people.These two guests are not freedom fighters. They are played by Imperialism
- The Carter Center - a gold standard of neutral objectivity - has said that the Venezuelan “cannot be considered democratic. … The election took place in an environment of restricted freedoms for political actors, civil society organizations, and the media. Throughout the electoral process, the CNE [the Venezuelan election council] demonstrated a clear bias in favor of the incumbent.”
- A panel of UN election experts, and the only other group officially invited by the CNE to observe the elections, has reported that the elections lacked “basic transparency and integrity,” criticizing the CNE for announcing Maduro as the winner without showing the tallies, which it said “had no precedent in contemporary democratic elections.”
- Days before the election, Human Rights Watch said, “Arrests of opposition members, arbitrary disqualifications of opposition candidates, and efforts to further restrict civic space have severely marred the electoral process in Venezuela. The elections are taking place in a context of years of systematic human rights abuses by the government and a severe humanitarian crisis that has forced roughly eight million people to leave the country.”
2:16 yet they won’t say the same for pakistan 😢. Only speaking their own truths
Right wingers in Venezuela and the US are so bitter because Maduro won and is keeping the oil 😂
What about Boric and Lula?
I don't think he won, but yeah, that's why they're pissed. lol
No stolen oil for Uncle Sam.
The Venezuela leadership {like that of Argentina 2 years ago} has been distancing their nation from the IMF-dollar casino System. Instead, they are reorientating toward the BRICS plus dynamic, and may join the BRICS in October!
Maduro can keep his oil, but if there is a limited market to sell to it’s not going to do him much good. US was largest consumer of VZ oil, but not with the sanctions
Yes, after maduro and his regime destroyed pdvsa they sing a contract with chevron to continue to sell oil to the USA which was just extended a few days ago, as you can see it’s all a charade
Leonardo is right!!!
Haha I knew it this channel is just awful
Both things can be true... Maduro is an ass who should not be in power. But that doesnt mean the US should intervene and doesnt mean people should support the current "opposition". It might be necessary to support them just to bridge to a more stable democratic system. Because Maduro will not allow that. But the US doesnt want real democracy in Venezuela either
la cosa es que bajo la oposicion no nos perseguiran por una publicacion, incluso si es inocente, tengo conocidos que fueron agarrados, tu vision es muy simplista.
Por qué el Tribunal no presenta las actas de las mesas de votación oficiales.
MCM hasta el final, salvo el tribunal LMAO
Stop the cyber attacks
US has no right to remove a seat president in Venezuela, they need to mind their own business. The seat president to get their ambassador out of Vénézuéla right now stop interfering in people business. Their gas is for sale, is not Haiti that democrat destroying.
Mind their own business, but buy Venezuelan oil?
Very disappointed by Democracy Now because of THIS PROGRAM AND ITS GUESTS
hmmm?
HE BETTER LEAVE OTHERWISE HE'S GOING TO THE JAIL WHERE HE WON'T SEE THE SUN NEITHER THE MOON
DN is literally the only source I personally would even begin to trust on this subject.
You are grossly misinformed then
@@gorecki4612 Thanks, random youtube person.
Venezuela gang's
Useful Idiots w/ Anya Parampil - Everything you need to know about Venezuela's elections in 12 minutes
Yeah no...all of these sites have been pushing propaganda for maduro. The people want him gone. Just because you're anti-imperialist doesn't mean that you overlook abuses of power in plain view. Wanting the US to stop interfering with Venezuela doesn't automatically make the government legit and desired by the people.
The people of Venezuela they are starving Muduro should leave the country for a better future and let the people be happy again
I’ve been stunned how democracy now has been pretending that Maduro’s regime did not BLATANTLY steal the election. And I say this as supporter of Chavez.
I’m still shocked how people still get manipulated so easily like you 😂
Unfortunately Venezuela is one of their blind spots. Similar to how they are with China (though in that case it’s because they are too harsh on China).
Many many channels have been doing the same. It's as mystifying as how the world continues to allow for the atrocities in Palestine. Neither makes sense
Since the CNE hasn't released the uncounted ballot receipt evidence, I don't see how you can say "blatantly" when there are still shadows of a doubt. But I'm open to hearing your perspective if you'd like to share it, or share your sources
To me it's just common sense voters always punish leaders for economic down turns. They don't care if it was caused by events out side of control of the leader. There's no way Maduro could win in a fair election.
Ask all the venezuelans leaving in the millions
We are not in a he said she said scenario. We have the actas
amnesty for what???????
Amnesty for all the real charges of drug trafficking. El Cartel De Los Soles is a Venezuelan organization headed by high-ranking members of the Armed Forces of Venezuela who are involved in international drug trade under the complicit approval of chavez, maduro and his posse.
For fixing an election and being a dictator who re wrote the constitution , the courts , government and is crushing any dissent
Now watch as commentors just regurrgitate US propganda in response to your question lol.
"As Americans, we need to understand the root causes of why so many people are leaving Venezuela and coming to the U.S. Their currency has lost its value, jobs are scarce, and people are desperate to find stability. Simply closing the borders won't solve the underlying issues because people can find other ways to enter. While I'm not into politics, I believe that by uncovering the truth behind this crisis, we can help Venezuela reclaim its stability and restore the decent living conditions it once had."
Maybe simply US sanctions are destroying their lives ....
Oh! I think you mean the conditions before American backing one rebel group after another to achieve a regime friendly to American companies and organizations that allow the resources and manpower from other countries for profits inherently tied to the American dollar?
Or do you mean the conditions they had before European global land acquisition and exploitation of the indigenous peoples, under the rich merchants and militaries of the most powerful monarch and oligarchy leaders of the "civilized world"?
We don't need to understand the root causes. We need to LISTEN to the people of those countries and help THEM build their own future. Not the USDA 85/15% leanest approved future
all it takes is for the Venezuelan government to allow democracy to happen freely in their country. That should be simple, but it has not happened. Maybe someone should discuss how their constitution has changed to promote dictatorship, making it very difficult to remove the political party in power.
Also remove sanctions and then stay away
Most people that have opinions on Venezuela elections have little to no idea how our electoral system works, and did not even research all the electoral activities that take place before and on the day. Maduro was the one candidate the left had, the " opossition " had over 5 .
Anyone who calls themselves a revolutionary or part of the left and chooses to overlook the main superior goal of battling 🇺🇸 imperialism, because of contradictions within chavismo,or critiques against Maduro, is a comfortable hypocrite. The fact that the discussion is over results and ballots and not over the criminal sanctions placed upon us just tells you what the moral compass in the world points to.
Bravo Leonardo❤ por tu digna postura.
Viva Chavez y Fidel y viva Palestina libre.
bot
pero que clase de mitomana eres? soy venezolano y las pruebas de que las elecciones no fueron limpias son demasiadas y contundentes, que te pasa en la mente?
Thanks for saying the truth and keeping a level head. People are very quick to buy into propganda. And then they end up regretting their choices. I don't know if he won or not, but even if he did, the US would still be doing what it's currently doing. They just want him gone.
This seemed like a reasonable video and discussion about the Venezuelan election. However, when I go to the comment section it immediately jumps away from Venezuelan democracy to USA international affairs. Again, the smokescreen comes up to change the topic from the responsibilities of the Venezuelan government to promote democracy and the political power of its people. I heard the excuse again that the government has not made public the voting details data because it has 30 days to do so. We know they have access to all of that data in order to conclude Maduro won. It seems easier for the Maduro government to mobilize its police/military/collectivo gangs against demonstrators rather than to release voting data. Why?
It's now 30 days after the election...
Hands off The bolivarianrevolution!
Liar. This is not Bolivarian.
??? debate
It's my second commentary bc I hadn't listened to the end of the talk in the first one and I think what we're watching playing out here is also the unequivocal exposition of both the corrosion of the left, nationally and globally, and the antidemocratic character of the representative bourgeois liberal "democracy".
First, one guest said that the global left cannot attach the support for Bolivarian revolution to Maduro being in power and there's a lot of problems here, connected to what I said against the representative democracy that only represents the interests of groups whatever they are and not the majority of the people: Venezuela's situation cannot be decided as a global dispute between sides, it's a sovereign country and when its people are hungry it's not "the global left" that feeds them. On the other hand, Leonardo Flores is distorting the situation to oblige all the fruits in the basket to be orange or apple, so if you are against Trump and Bolsonaro you must be against Venezuelan opposition AS IF that means to be pro Maduro no matter the shit he does or says - Leonardo Flores and the horrible "global left" are just repeating the one sided and dictatorial division that run and ruined the very left in the post WWII with the false dilemma that to be against U$A and capitalism you must be pro whatever shit was said and done by the communists in power. Those people learned nothing and that's what has made me start to advocate for global and local participatory democracy bc this cat and mouse game only serves the professional politicians in both sides who are mostly representative of groups and lobbies and not of the citizens.
One of the major problems that led to the corrosion of the left both locally and globally is its adherence to the rules of the representative democracy which is inherently antipopular and antidemocratic that's why it's now totally taken by fascists around the world.
And finally, no one fighting in this is fighting for the people of Venezuela but for its own agenda, political and economic power and fossil fuel, the same for the left and the right, be Brazil or U$A or Europe: NO ONE CARES FOR THE INTERESTS AND NEEDS OF THE PEOPLES wherever in the world that's why I say that representative democracy won't never serve the people's interests, it's against its core functioning, so only participatory democracy can save peoples around the world from bad govts of whatever the ideology bc in the end they don't act quite differently in their thirst for power - watch Bolivia that it was the nearest to a socialist govt and now it's a mess with even allegations of auto coup besides the military, totally corroded by the attachment to power and capitalism, while people are in crisis and divided.
Sorry if I was not precise and clear.
São Paulo, 13/August/2024 - 14h05 (-3GMT).
Maybe the US wants Maduro in power and sanctioned?
Lift the sanctions
And this Chanel call them self democracy now 😂. Bunch of lefties interviewing leftists 🙈 embarrassing
Release the actas!
FREE VENEZUELA PEOPLE 😢
How in the woRLD the USA HAS ANY RIGTH TO OFFER MADURO TO LIVING ITS PRESIDENTIAL STATUS ..
WE SUPPORT MADURO …….
Maduro lost the election and now he has "lost" the verification receipts.
this youtube channel is definitely the Fox News of progressives
She is far right selected by the US.
Have you paid attention to the plans Machado has proposed for a future Venezuela? Far right politicians are a very rare breed in Latin America. Right and Left are not important anymore. More critical is their support for democracy. Their promise to leave office if they are not successfully helping their country and people.
maduro es un titere de china y rusia que nos ha hecho sufrir mucho a los venezolanos, algo tambien a tener en cuenta
Unfortunately we can't trust Maduro nor Gonzáles/Machado.
Trust no one
es millones de veces mas creible mcm que maduro, tienes alguna duda? como pones a los dos al mismo nivel?
@@ThedL-h3m Pero el TSJ es el maximo instancia en vza, y en el poder de la ley yo creo, aun que fue el trabajo del cne, en este situaccion el TSJ manda en el territorio venezolano
@@XRPSwan pero sabes acaso lo que pasa en mi pais? todos los poderes tienen como presidentes personas que fueron miembro publico del partido de chavez, como elvis amoroso del cne, y william saab del tsj
@@XRPSwan realmente crees que hay separacion de poderes real? si has investigado sobre la situacion.
Mr Flores - what’s with the picture of the White House in the background? Are you representing the US, or just trying to add “legitimacy” to your comments? What you should have in the background is a picture of the Machado rally with 10’s of thousands of unhappy voters. You, or your family, must be on the Maduro payroll.
Maduro forever nothing else
Kinda sus DN cuts the video off abruptly
valenzuela
How shameful is this program has turned into a mouth piece of the USA imperialism.
Facts!!
Wrong this piece was balanced
America bad lol go live in Russia or China or Venezuela if America is so bad
President Maduro win election usa Venezuela affairs alone
Help us! SOS Democracy now for Venezuela. Stop comunist regime. Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua and Latam free of comunism please!
First, the disagreements in this segment seemed too tepid to be worth calling a “debate”. Mr Velasco, who appeared to me fairly level-headed, did note that Maduro has lost the support of many staunchly Chavista neighborhoods. Mr Flores, on the other hand, seems to be living in a parallel reality. His comparison of Gonzalez and Trump is downright crazy. Also, note that he twice evaded answering why he thought the CNE’s was withholding of the detailed tally sheets. (Where the answer is obvious: the sheets show that Gonzalez won.)
I applaud Amy for at least mentioning human rights reporting in her introduction, but sadly there was zero attention paid in the interview to eliciting responses to the shooting deaths of a couple dozen people, the arbitrary arrests of around 2,000, the ransacking of the opposition headquarters, the threats to arrest opposition figures, operation Knock-Knock where “enemies of the state” are picked up in the night.
Essentially, Venezuela is a litmus test for those on the left who are motivated by principle, and those (like Max Blumenthal, Katie Harper, Aaron Mate, Code Pink, the National Lawyer’s Guild, and many more) who are driven by dogma. These are people who are happy to quote Amnesty International, the Carter Center, and the UN when their findings accord with their world view, but who ignore or repudiate these findings when they don’t like what they say.
Final thought: the left (or portions thereof) and the right share the common fallacy that Venezuela is a referendum on socialism. The referendum here is on human rights and dignity and fairness, on authoritarianism and oppression and corruption. I encourage listeners of Democracy Now not be on the wrong side of history when it comes to Venezuela.
Excellent, especially your final statement. Governments everywhere should take note that over-centralization of government and making political parties more important than what they do for the people of their countries will lead to authoritarianism, hardships for their people and loss of democracy. This is true for socialism, capitalism, any form of social order. Venezuela has experience this during the past ~century both left and right. Suggested reading on Venezuelan politics and governance: Allan Carias
Dude, The Ven. gov. oppressed the opposition in earlier elections first, then The U.S. imposed sanctions. It was first
el huevo and then la gallina...
Access to the America economy is not a human right. Increase the sanctions.
Why would a Chicano author have any saying on the issue of Venezuelan elections?? A matter he clearly ignores!
Chicano better than YT opinions 😂
nah frl they needa get real venezuelans on this shit with the actual regime that they experienced cus this chicano author has heard and known of that but hasnt experiemced it like me
EDMUNDO GONZALEZ URRUTIA,
PRESIDENTE ELECTO DE VENEZUELA! 🇻🇪
These dictators have no shame
😂😂😂😂 is this a comedy ???
I don't think Venezuela should have an opposition. I think the people who've been running Venezuela for the past 25 years should continue to run it forever.
They think so too.
Ladron😮
At least they have income equality❤
do they have income equality, though?
Not really. Venezuela simply eliminated the middle class and joined them with the poor class of Venezuelans. The rich stayed rich by either leaving Venezuela or joining the power structure of the Maduro regime. They forgot that much of the economic success of the country came from the middle class, people that were educating themselves and making industry work.
The whole world demands and supports that the will of the people of Venezuela be respected. Freedom for Venezuela. Maduro the people of Venezuela do NOT want you they are tired of living in misery!!!!👊👊👊🇻🇪❤️🩹
Wow...Is Flores related to Celia Flores?
Terrible!
👉Not sure, however, it's most likely , as its clear he favors maduro and celia - in lowercase on purpose. His reference to "Stop The Steal" ensures he is a chavista / madurista 💫
Achichincles 🐍 De 😈🔚🤨 Ya Saber Quien 🤬 Otrax Vex 🤡🥱💤 Pobre
Leonardo Flores y Alejandro Velasco, both Venezuelans, 😢 will be judge for beeing on the wrong side of history. Something for your consideration
😢
Leonardo Flores is a liar. The Regim in Venezuela is the oppressor not the victim.
Maduro lost. Deal with it leftys. 😅
I am always blown away by all you guys saying the US is somehow to blame for Central America fumbling. I pray that ALL of Latin America can secure their own country so they WILL STAY HOME! Shitting on yer neighbors and sending guys like the ones talking WHILE they are in the US vs home FIGHTING to liberate THEMSELVES... It is silly and pathetic
Is your complaint similar to that of Maduro complaining that Gonzales didn't show up at the supreme court or face him, man to man?
The moment Maduro start talking you tube change automaticly next video 3 times.
Far right? Sure commy comrade
What biased "media....." I am out.