Still Troubles but Now...with Robots! - FFXIV Patch 3.2 Retrospective

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  • @TheIvoryDingo
    @TheIvoryDingo ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Midas is if I recall correctly also the only Tier (after the Normal/Savage split) that doesn't drop a mount upon clearing the 4th fight (instead giving a minion).

    • @ryu-kazuki
      @ryu-kazuki ปีที่แล้ว

      By split were you including Second Coil Savage?

    • @TheIvoryDingo
      @TheIvoryDingo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ryu-kazuki I more meant there being a 'story mode' version doable by everyone and a 'hard mode' version for the dedicated raiders.

  • @mattporter3162
    @mattporter3162 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The 3.25 relic step was aether oil which just needed 5 which you could get from 5 weeks of the old CT weekly quest or through i believe hunt seals or tomes. light farm was i believe 3.55 along side the victory lap for the lux stage

  • @YUXKE
    @YUXKE ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man I still remember the powerman5000 drama back then. Good times

  • @maxime_simard
    @maxime_simard ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Fun fact about the whole Powerman 5000 thing, they drop the lawsuit threat when they realize that it help people remember the band exist

    • @Violent_Wolfen
      @Violent_Wolfen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's funny, but you gotta admit part of that theme was taken from World's Collide.

    • @ziegfeld4131
      @ziegfeld4131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Violent_Wolfenits not though none of the notes are even close to the same

    • @darschpugs4690
      @darschpugs4690 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Violent_Wolfen Its wasn't, the notes, rythm and timing are completely different. was hilarious when soken said he had never even heard the song much less the band since they never gained any real popularity outside the us.

  • @mrcool9090
    @mrcool9090 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ok now it makes complete sense why Sephirot's theme has the lyrics "Say my name/Sephirot"

  • @red5robb1
    @red5robb1 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    100% need hall of the intermediate, hall of the advance and maybe even hall of the mechanics

    • @pentagonofpeople
      @pentagonofpeople ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Especially if that last one has the outdated but still used community terms for everything. As a player just getting into extremes/savages it's very confusing hearing terms like enumerations, proteans, and limit cuts

    • @dianauwu1312
      @dianauwu1312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@pentagonofpeopleThis, actually. XIV needs a glossary for raiding at this point.

    • @Slayerlord13
      @Slayerlord13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dianauwu1312 Hearing people on reddit try to unironically argue that terms like "chariot" are somehow better than descriptive terms for the same thing like "point blank aoe" or simply "OUT" is wild

    • @bathersbestie8986
      @bathersbestie8986 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Slayerlord13 Had me so confused, especially since the opposite is donut which is so simple lmao

    • @Slayerlord13
      @Slayerlord13 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bathersbestie8986 Apparently there's a weird old community term for that one too but I can't remember what it is.

  • @cparle87
    @cparle87 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Antitower needs all the love and props and kudos a person can give it.

  • @TheSteveSchulz
    @TheSteveSchulz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The genre for Sephirot's song is industrial. Also, it's amusing for Powerman 5000 to call out FFXIV when Trent Reznor could easily call out the iterations of industrial bands that came after him. People have influences and iterate/emulate from there. lol

  • @dangerousshoes
    @dangerousshoes ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, 3.2 was when i started playing the game. It really doesn't feel like I've been playing that long

    • @shadowsaiph
      @shadowsaiph ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, man. It's hard to believe it's been forever ago.

    • @dangerousshoes
      @dangerousshoes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doesn't feel like that long ago that everyone was progging Sophia EX haha

  • @DLMoridin
    @DLMoridin ปีที่แล้ว

    The first boss in anti-tower has a muppets reference as in one phase they sing part of "the moonlight connection" that Kermit is semi-famous for singing. while the second boss is a reference to David Bowie aka Ziggy Stardust who passed away about a month before the patch dropped. (boss called Ziggy summoning big rocks called stardust)

  • @-Teres
    @-Teres ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember starting to watch your streams around 3.2. At that time you had a weird background faded in. An office? Anyway, that was a long and great journey. Thanks for all the content and hard work for the ff community! And yess, Midas was great.

  • @Scerttle
    @Scerttle ปีที่แล้ว

    "I wanna help people" roulette sounds like an incredible idea ngl

  • @Backflip2002
    @Backflip2002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mentor system and Novice Network in general are hit or miss. I know that the one on Mateus is actually nice since we spend a bunch of time shitposting and if someone has a question we will stop messing with each other and answer it. Think like old Barrens chat from WoW mixed with a somewhat functioning guild you can get together with to do content. We also call out S-ranks and A-ranks/trains from time to to so it has something to keep both sprouts and mentors invested and part of a community which I tend to find lacking when I help friends on other servers/datacenters and see their NN.
    However I will say if it's not your vibe you will bounce off of it quick and when it is your vibe we tend to get sprouts that rush to get crafting mentor before getting to endwalker so they can stay and chat.

  • @photomatt11
    @photomatt11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is where I stopped playing in 2016 and then came back to in 2021.

  • @Chubbybrocast
    @Chubbybrocast ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i forgot stone sky sea existed lol

  • @darkwulf2k
    @darkwulf2k ปีที่แล้ว

    Brute Justice imho is still one of the best raid boss songs ever put out. 3.2 was one of my breaks, so i missed a bit of this one.

  • @Akidryt
    @Akidryt ปีที่แล้ว

    very interesting. I don't know a single person that really liked light farming back then nor nowadays xD

  • @ICountFrom0
    @ICountFrom0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hall of the novice has so many things not right in it right now... and would be a good way to come down on the side of "who's repsoncible for pulling and agro".
    But we need a bit more then "novice" training these days I think, with 90 levels to catch up on...

  • @UltimegaSeven
    @UltimegaSeven ปีที่แล้ว

    Sephirot taught me how to tank. Absolute chad damage that filtered me hard. I loved it cause when you survived the damage, you felt like a tank.
    Also Vortexer is a beast.

  • @shirox11
    @shirox11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Midas was the perfect raid tier. It’s probably my favourite tier in any mmo ever. It was challenging but unlike Gordias it’s encounters where all enjoyable where as Gordias only had A3 as a standout.
    Now I understand why savage is the way it is now and it’s not like i don’t enjoy it anymore, because i do. That small selfish part of me however just kind of wishes that Midas was the difficulty standard for savage.

  • @KitsuneScholar
    @KitsuneScholar ปีที่แล้ว

    Sephirot Extreme was the start of my curse. There was only one way I could actually join a party to do it. I was a Paladin. Main tank. I had been a healer main since 2.4. This thing happened a few times to me mind you.

  • @gjet35
    @gjet35 ปีที่แล้ว

    Midas (Savage) and Second Coil are my two favourite raid tiers of all time for XIV. I also have a slight soft spot for the rest of the Coil (First and Final) but Second cinches it for best tier there. All of the fights in Midas just tested your entire raid from start to finish - everyone had to get in on the fun (especially Quickthinx with his different jails). I could wax lyrical about both of these tiers but that'd take too long. If you can experience them minimum item level (or at least synced); do so. You won't regret it.

  • @moto3112
    @moto3112 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's the update that also gave us the job specific LBs if I recall right? I remember using Teraflare with my SMN in Midas for the first time instead of the meteor it was amazing

  • @TotoTheBest91
    @TotoTheBest91 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    iirc the light step for the anima weapon was 3.4. wasn't 3.2 the aether oil step?

    • @sonic4541
      @sonic4541 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct. You'd treat your anima weapon with aether oils that cost tomes but the alliance raid gave you a free oil upon clearing it for the week. But that wasn't until patch 3.3

  • @MrConfetywow
    @MrConfetywow ปีที่แล้ว

    i have always been a casual player in 14 and i dont remember hw first patches being that bad
    the game was semi recent, we had a lot of classes to try and level, crafting was good
    dungeons were a BIG step up from ARR so high level roulettes were really good
    normal raiding was new and not bad, and void ark was awesome

  • @TheScreamingIdiot
    @TheScreamingIdiot ปีที่แล้ว

    I want them to change the mentor crown to a watering can. So we can water the sprouts and help them grow :)

  • @trey9738
    @trey9738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3.2 is when I started 14 my first mmo and oh boy it was a challenge didn't know a damn thing about the game. Playing dps and pulling all the mobs in a dungeon not knowing wtf a rotation was. Omg it was definitely embarrassing

  • @theangriestpigeon4403
    @theangriestpigeon4403 ปีที่แล้ว

    Midas was when I stopped playing because it was when my friend stopped.
    I was only lvl 43, still in ARR, just plugging away on weekends, lving other jobs was such a dumb idea with how often I had to just stop and do them, and I have never seen a man so angry at a video game in my life. Haps is not lying, that robot gauntlet was not well thought out at all and each time I look up guides I just go, "what were they thinking"
    Not too bad today, obviously, but in HW, the playerbase was CONSIDERABLY dumber. Never forget people saying Nidhogg was busted because players just didn't mit.

  • @xierotron
    @xierotron ปีที่แล้ว

    Bring on 3.3 Happy the patch i returned at, well 3.35 and the Yo kai event

  • @NeroLucifarious
    @NeroLucifarious ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe it went to court but was judged that because its in the same vein as the music genre that its a part of it was bound to sound similar but ultimately not the song.

  • @ex0stasis72
    @ex0stasis72 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Gears of the Change" 😂

  • @gbtygfvyg
    @gbtygfvyg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sephirot unreal got rid of the permadeath from being knocked off, yeah.

  • @DeRedBaronCT
    @DeRedBaronCT ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not even sure where to put this but should I assume all job retrospectives are done now?

  • @vasilisvenompapadopoulos
    @vasilisvenompapadopoulos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mentor Roulette should be name as Carrying Roulette. New players queue EX to be carried.
    Me: i have to craft anyway. Leave

  • @TemLightKiBlade
    @TemLightKiBlade ปีที่แล้ว

    ?? There wasn’t a light phase until like the end of the heavensward relic, maybe second to last? This was the oil phase

  • @SventFulgur
    @SventFulgur ปีที่แล้ว

    So was the Powerman 5000 issue the reason Sephirot's bird is the only one that doesn't play its main theme properly?
    Also why are HW tribal mounts the only ones that can't do their mount actions?!

  • @ProfessM
    @ProfessM ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm almost sure this was the patch I joined the game.

  • @remjoleea5560
    @remjoleea5560 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sephiroth’s in ffxiv now? Yeah I saw One-winged Angel I the ul’dah aetherite room

  • @varmintx0
    @varmintx0 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...oh, reminded yet again that I still haven't gone and done Hall of the Novice just for completion sake. And I'm not currently subbed. I will forget again by the time I resub.

  • @Scerttle
    @Scerttle ปีที่แล้ว

    Sephirot's theme 100% sounds like When Worlds Collide mashed up with Supernova goes pop for almost the entire song lmfao. The fact that Soken had never heard of them is absolutely mind blowing cause it's uncanny. I know a bunch of folks who refer to it as "Legally Distinct PM5K"

  • @AceBadguy
    @AceBadguy ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool.

  • @italianradio6148
    @italianradio6148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your retrospectives of these are much more negative than I remember these patches to be. All of my friends and I were in a hyper-casual raiding group (didn't even do A6S until after nerfs) and this is honestly the first time I've heard these really negative opinions

  • @SonySteals
    @SonySteals 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why would Thancred be anybody’s favourite character 😂😂 I mean he’s designed to impress 12-16yo boys lmao

  • @wontononionslicer1004
    @wontononionslicer1004 ปีที่แล้ว

    All Alexander raid difficulties wise are just bs. story was top tier tbh.

  • @alijasim1470
    @alijasim1470 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The mentor system is a joke. A lot of normies play and know the game better than mentors. To be honest they should add another requirement, like defeating at least 5 Extreme fights (Sync). Just because you play healer or tank and are "nice", dosen't mean you should be a mentor.

    • @straysheep4467
      @straysheep4467 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mentorship is a mix of skill and personality. You should be at least moderately knowledgeable... and the current requirements meet that. Max rank with all roles plus 1500 commendations and 1000 dungeon runs.
      Someone clearing endgame content may be one of the best players on their server and still be a total knob that you wouldn't want welcoming people into the game or community.
      As long as the mentor program is a checklist and doesn't have any manual vetting process, it will be a mixed bag.

  • @virginiaslaughter4725
    @virginiaslaughter4725 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say ❤ your hair please don't shave it again

  • @NeroLucifarious
    @NeroLucifarious ปีที่แล้ว

    First.