“He is so dense.” *INHALES* He figured out her identity twice. TWICE. And Marinette didn’t figure it out once. And ADRIEN is dense? In the first season, Kim is a meanie. In the next seasons, he is a swimming talking wholesome child.
flameball537 In stormy weather 2, no I really don't think that he did in that episode, he nearly found out Mari had a crush on him, I'll rewatch it after this video
2:03 THATS IT. Am I the only one that's getting sick and tired of everyone saying Adrien is dense and blind? He is the only character in the series that has actually figured out Ladybugs identity (Not once but twice!) Plus, Marinette keeps on denying her feelings for him. (Ex being puppeteer 2.) So how is he suppose to know she likes him? And let's not forget that Marinette is just as dense as Adiren is. I mean, she didnt know Cat Noir loved her until he officially told her in Glacitor. (Balcony Marichat scene, where she says "You're in love with Ladybug? For real?) And every single time Alya says Adrien looks like Cat Noir, Marinette says "Ugh, whatever. Hes a 1000% time more amazing then Cat Noir" (Ex being the Mime and Frighteningale.) Just ugh! 😠 I hate it when people say Adrien is so dense even tho Marinette is just as dense as he is! Ugh! 😠 Anyways, thank you for listening to my rant.
Marinette is the true blind one here. I still agree about Adrian being dense and blind, but Marinette didn't figure out Chat liked Ladybug until season 2.
June Moon not only that but he’s pretty much been homeschooled for most of his life so it’s understandable how he doesn’t recognize Mari’s love for him. Her constant awkward encounters make it difficult for him to understand so yeah most of this density is on Mari
@@ibobam9215 Overall, I feel like something is off about this video. Most importantly the 2nd half: The main villain and the the 2 main protagonists are not in the S tier, BUT Luka is there?! What? Why? Luka is not as important to the plot. You can delete Luka from the show, nothing will change that much!
@@z-one5941 that's what I thought too! Placing marinette and adrien at a and b while they are supposed to be the main characters doesn't add up correctly
Ibo Bam Look at it like this: Aiden was thinking about the characters’ POTENTIAL to grow, not what they are already. That’s why the main characters didn’t rank very high.
Me: Cartoon Apocalyse has uploaded lets watch and see what he has today Also me: " sees video tittle " oh no The rest of the fandom: "Ready to attack if they take shots at their favourite characters "
What impact on the show could have the 2 main protagonist? Luka, a side character, who is pretty poorly developed is obviously "more important". I'm sarcastic.
@@z-one5941 i totally agree i hope that Aiden will have a look of the comments about it. He can like the character but for the second part about the importance of the characters in the story it is rubbish.
All I've seen luka do is be nice and exist... but like nothing else. I'm most annoyed when I see him in an episode because I just don't get his purpose.
[ READ TILL END ]👇👇👇 Lila: "How would you describe me?" Adrien: "ABCDEFGHIJK." Lila: "What does that mean?" Adrien: "Adorable, beautiful, cute, delightful, elegant, fashionable, gorgeous, and hot." Lila: "Aw, thank you, but what about IJK?" Adrien: "I'm just kidding!" #miraculousminibug 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Nyxx7389 Idk who he is but ik for a fact its not the boy who was akumitized in sand boy bc the boy was young probably around Ninos brothers age (I do know Ninos brothers name dw)
When you think about it Gabriel is the reason why we even a have a story in the first place, every hero needs an antagonist. So in a way Gabriel is probably the most important character in the show.
For the most part i don't have a problem with your choices. I would put Adrien on the S tier for both lists. The first because he is an amazing character, even with his broken home life he still acts kind and cares for everyone, he can be dense but its understandable, he has been locked away for a good chunk of his life after all. The second list would be S-SSS because as a show writer you have this character that is a main hero but at the same time his father and secretary/nanny are the villains, his mother is in a coma in his basement, he has to constantly be on the move as a hero/modal/fencer/student/voice actor/Chinese student, that still keeps up appearances. Felix may become a threat, and he has some control over Lila and what she will be able to do as his "friend". to me this opens up an insane amount of things the writers can do in the future and all of these things can either cause him to break down or he can embrace all of his responsibility and use that experience to be a better hero and also help ladybug with her new balance of responsibilities as the new guardian. he just has some serious potential. Now i may get hate for this, but i think Luka needs to be moved down A LOT at least in the first list because as of now he is just too perfect, its boring. But in the show writers list i would keep him in th S tier. In my opinion it would be amazing to have him be the "too perfect to be true" type of character and he eventually becomes a villain. Someone who has always been regarded as perfect could end up having a breakdown if something they are passionate about doesn't go their way. This could lead to a fall for him. As of now he accepts that Marinette may not like him the way he likes her, but if they end up a couple and he sees that she now does. Then when they inevitably break up he will break because he may not have been seen perfect like he always has been in the past and it will be a new experience for him. now the question would be, how would he react? That could lead to a strong villain and maybe not just an akumatized person. Also in my opinion this has peaked through a little. Now this may just be me seeing things but at the end of 'Desperada' when Luka and Adrien are playing the guitar and piano Luka does seem to have a challenging expression aimed at Adrien. Now that could be because of how Marinette sees Adrien, or something as simple as him challenging another musician in that moment. Then again i could have just been seeing things. Either way that would be a good thing to show for him and give him more depth and potential to explore. Apologies for the long comment but i just felt like i should get my thoughts out there, maybe others will start to see thing a little differently now. maybe even give Cartoon Apocalypse and other fans some more things to brainstorm and theorize about. If not than that's ok too. Thanks for reading this if you did. Also it would be interesting to see everyones thoughts on this.
@@averemack lol i tend to get lost in thought a lot so i come up with lots of scenarios for things i am interested in at the moment. never really thought of it as deep but i can see that. I also like to see things from many different prospectives so i can understand pretty much every ones opinions as long as they don't go over bored with expressing them. i may have done that idk for sure i will have to see how people take the comment i guess. apologies if this is odd to anyone.
@@averemack nah i've never actually looked into that... may be interesting though. back almost a half hour later to do this edit. i took a 16personality test and apparently I have a Mediator personality.
I feel like Adrien's potential is super high because he can become emotionally unstable with certain secrets and how his family is a bit messed up... Anyone could just betray him at any moment it's sad.
Aiden: Luka deserves nothing other than S! Me: So the perfect boyfriend cliché with zero emotions and no personality is better than our 2 main protagonists and bunch of other characters? Nice.
I agree i have always found him boring and get a little annoyed by how many people put him on a pedestal. To me he is just bland, nice and everything nothing against him for that just not interesting.
@@Enzelon Most of the fans that put him on this unrealistically high pedestal are the fangirls who for some reason don't like the 2 protagonist. Yes, sounds super strange, but the Luka fans don't like Marinette... at all. And hate Adrien. Luka is basically what an average fangirl has always wanted: an absolutely perfect boyfriend with no flaws.
@@z-one5941 i can see that being true to an extent a lot of fans do think less of Marinette and Adrian, usually because they think Marinette is "creepy" or obsessed over Adrien and Adrien is dense similar to how cartoon apocalypse put him further down. To me though those aspects just show that they are imperfect and it makes them way more interesting.
Z- one Ikr?!? Like, adrien and marinette should he at an s, especially with the plot, they affect the plot so much! Heck, without them, there wouldn’t even be a plot
@@miraculoustalesofobliviousness Exactly! Luka just can't be a S rank character, no matter what! He is just a third-rate character who doesn't affect the plot at all. Adrien and Marinette have the entire plot revolving around them and still... A and B rank?! WTF?! The list is not accurate!
@@susmitamajumdar9792 Because the list is just not accurate. You can't have secondary characters ahead of the main protagonist and to claim that they are more useful. Luka special does almost nothing when he us onscreen.
Does anyone else wonder what would have happened at he beginning of the felix episode if Adrien hadn't thought his dad waas marrying nathalie?? I swear Gabriel was gonna tell him that he was Hawk Moth and that he want to wish Emily back to life. I really want to know what adrien would do... help his dad and give over his miraculous aswell as discover ladybug's identity or would he steal his dad's miraculous and give it to marinette (since she's the new guardian)?? Im rlly annoyed about this and couldnt gabriel tell him again please sometime in the next series??
Honestly I think Sabine should be an S in the first tier. She's so amazing with Marinette and everyone that comes into her home. But that's just my opinion. I also think that Adrien and Marinette should be an S too because of how much they help other's outside of their superhero forms. Again, this just my opinion. The rest I pretty much agree with though.
thisrandomgirl hehe First of all, she’s obsessive as hell, and disgusting. She literally yelled at Lila because she was jealous of her causing her to become Volpina which didn’t need to ever happen if she wasn’t dumb. Second, She got people akumatized not one, not twice, but four times, Anasi, Antibug, Volpina, hell even more, Even got some knockoff Santa akumatized because apparently she think she knows what a akumtized person looks like.
@@beaming1875 Because he is one dimensional Mary Sue. He has almost no personality and barely shows any emotions. He has aboslutely no flaws. And is just unreal. The only thing that he does when he is onscreen is playing the guitar and giving the audience the perfect boyfriend expression. Oh, and he interacts ONLY with Marinette. He has almost no importance for the plot.
Ha love your channal reactions and 100% agree with you and your video explaining why you dislike him is spot on...just realised that could be a pun.. Sorry for that...
Ok yeah, Adrien is oblivious to Marinette’s crush on him, but at least he’s not a stalker or a bully. He’s so nice and kind, and has a really sad life. He doesn’t deserve so much hate just because he isn’t aware of someone else’s crush on him
Chloe's development isn't being held back artificially because writer don't want to do it. Maybe she is capable to change but actually it's hard to see in the show. Chloe just had no reason to change. She was doing good things only to gain fame and having Miraculous only made even more arrogant. Chloe still treated Sabrina very badly and that's indicator of who Chloe really is when she doesn't think she needs to uphold standards of the hero behavior. Sabrina for Chloe symbolizes connection to her humanity and who she is inside. Thomas Astruc and other writers in interview to "Le Figaro" said that Sabrina's devotion is a problem and it is going to change soon (probably in Season 4). Sabrina's devotion to Chloe is mysterious and it was even lampshaded in "Miraculous Secrets: Sabrina". Sabrina's development was canned because it is needed to develop Chloe. Authors didn't want to do it before because Sabrina's development is a thing that suppose to trigger Chloe's development. So it wasn't right time for Chloe to be developed, but now it is. Chloe has central role in the show and Sabrina is going to be crucial part of it.
some things Thank you! You know Miracle Queen actually gave me more respect for Chloe's arc and how the writers are handling it. Now I have more confidence she'll get a solid redemption later on not simply, "oh we'll make her cry a little bit so people sympathize with her and than give her a miraculous but she'll still be a complete jerk to everyone around her" People who say her betrayal came out of nowhere really need to watch season 3 again and pay attention to Chloe's behavior and motives.
some things I always loved Chloe and I will always do. And yeah she did queen bee stuff for attention but not everything for it ( like her video in felix and her protecting Sabrina in ladybug ). But I think she can truly change now. Sometimes to truly change/understand mistake, someone need to hit the ground and reach the bottom ( like what happened in MQ ). A character development process isn’t linear or fast. I think it would be useful for her development if Sabrina and/or adrien abandons her and she truly decides to change. I hope she won’t change too much, she’s so funny now, I won’t like her if she change totally
gabriele ronzino I'm not willing to call it bad writing before her arc is complete. I'm not sure if they always intended for Chloe to betray everyone but I do know there was always a plan to flesh out her character and give her the Bee. I agree completely with the idea that Sabrina needs to abandon her . She simply needs to tell her enough is enough and she'll no longer tolerate the way Chloe treats her. I'm less confident this will happen with Adrien. He's often pretty lenient with people but because of Lila he could be learning to put his foot down more. Either way I believe the new bee holder will also be very important to her redemption.
Everyone else: *Rants about Aiden's list and for Aiden posting at night and staying up all night.* Me: BuT PFt you Said YOu weRe GoNnA do gOnnA KwAmIs LaST I see NO KwAmiis On DaT LiST! LOOKk I HAve PRooF! Random person: Did he say anything about kwamis? Me: IDk where but I remember I need to rewatch it...
Luka is not an S no matter how you spin it. He’s literally so one dimensional, flawless and Mary Sue. He has no depth or realistic characteristics. He’s such a sucky character and an unrealistic person. He’s literally so generic and not well written at all.
Basically the perfect boyfriend cliché. He has zero personality and emotions. The fact that he is above Adrien and Marinette and bunch of other awesome characters... annoys me SO MUCH!
@@kabsageigj8941 i always thaught ot wpuld be interesting to go with the too good to be true route and make him a villain in the future. Only time this may have shown through is in desperada at the end when he was playing the guitar and looking at adrien on piano as if he was challenging him. Just look at the expression he has in that scene. Could just be me though.
7:08 - 7:26 I AGREE WITH YOU I been thinking for while now but I was scare to say it because everyone loves her but like you said she does a lot of things for her like for example using her power being ladybug to take Kagami away from Adrien and she knew that she needed chole instead also created a bigger mess making chloe going against her because she choose to do something for her instead for her city...
@@youarenotworthless3628 Yea...I think the best character its Cat Noir because he can be himself all the time but when he is Adrien he can't.....
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@@youarenotworthless3628 not realllyyy, it was Chloe's fault that she believed the miraculous was a right, plus had she had a real hero perspective, she would have given the miraculous back as soon as she heard that it could hurt her friends and family
I would put Adrien as an S for the writing because we are already seeing how he's becoming more independent as the show continues. When he's Cat Noir he is fused with Plagg's personality which gives him an edge. So it's great to see him get a bit tougher and more edgy on his own without Plagg. He basically threatened Lila ( in the episode "Ladybug") into proving Marinette's innocence. I wish the writers did a better job with Chole and Gabriel.
Let's all be honest with ourselves, Nathalie is basically Adrien's mom. In "Sandboy", Adrien in his nightmare calls out to Nathalie first, and then his father.
Ya know I honestly like Kagami as a character and her character design is really pretty, I understand everyone has opinions and everyone’s is valid but I think she is underrated and really hated on.
I just don't like that she came in just to be a love rival for Marinette when she's clearly really independent. I would've preferred if she just stayed friends with Adrien cuz without her Marinette would not be so self conscious around Adrien in my eyes because she has to be compared to her constantly now.
@Quiet Opinion yeah honestly this show is said to be girl power but it's really just Marinette obsessive fighting over Adrien with other girls, literally every new girl is set to be a love rival
I’d love it if you did a tier ranking series for anything and everything miraculous!! It’d be pretty cool to hear your thoughts on everything miraculous :)
Not gonna lie, Kagami is my favorite character (character that gets hate but still earns development) and I liked Chloe before Miracle Queen (I stood for the whole redemption arc). Dream Boyfriend is okay because he's the only person Marinette doesn't her supernice girl mask on around (supports her even when her friends and family don't). P.S: Adrien over Chat Noir anyday. Chat is on and off when respecting Ladybug's feelings.
I would honestly put chloe higher, maybe a B or an A because I like how she kind of leans back and forth between being a b**** and showing her more vulnerable side.
People are saying Luka is pointless to the story. Personally I think that Luka will have some sort of secret or something that will make Luka more of an interesting character
15:21 Yessssss Nath my favorite character! She’s such an interesting person when she actually gets to do something. She progresses the plot a ton and I love her for it.
Here is some food for though. In season 3 ladybug episode we were given Marinette’s akuma name. But the fandom failed to recognize that we were actually given two possible names. Princess Justice and Verity Queen. The fandom just accepted that princess justice will be it. However someone pointed out that might not be the case anyway. And from watching some episodes it always shows the strongest first. Since it show Marinette bag turning red that means that was the first. Then Sabine’s ring. What name did scarlet moth said first? Verity Queen. That means Marinette akuma name isn’t Princess Justice but Verity Queen. And that makes more sense. Right in that moment Marinette had a desperate desire for the truth. Desperate desire is the key to akumitization! Nino was akumitized because he desperately wanted to help Adrien celebrate his birthday. Alix became timebreaker because she desperately wanted to save her watch. Ayla became lady WiFi because she desperately wanted the truth. And the final nail Lila became Volpina because she desperately wanted Adrien’s heart. Akumas that don’t seem to fit together actually do because Of desperation. Hawkmoth will have to trigger that state in Marinette again, he knows it is possible to akumitized her, the question is how
eddog6666 So my first evidence is that in MOST cases the word “Queen” is for people that are older and “Princess” is for younger people . 2nd , “Justice” is about being fair and all that stuff , Marinette got falsely accused and wanted Justice..so it doesn’t matter what order hawkmoth said the names it has nothing to do with which name is who’s . so if you must go ahead and tell me YOUR evidence :/
Not entirely true. You can have a Queen that’s younger then her mother or father. And Marinette’s Biggest pet peeve is someone not telling the truth. And Verity translate to Truth. All Marinette’s near akumitization were because of someone not being truthful. And besides the show title of episode usually have wordplay in them. Remember syren? The actual akuma name is Siren.
Dense? Adrian? He’s a straight A student, knows multiple languages and is trained in martial arts and fencing…. Also, Marinette’s treatment of Adrien can sometimes be creepy.. sniffing his pillow, keeping presents for future birthdays, knowing his schedule off by heart, and feeling that she is entitled to him even tho she has never even admitted her true feelings, unlike Chloe, Lila and Kagami (not tryna defend Lila tho)
If I could give an honest opinion as a fan of this show, I don't like Adrien and Marinette as much as I used to, I don't know I guess you could say I grew tired of them, and now I focus more on the minor characters than them. I love the show, but I feel as if Marinette is a somewhat flat character, same goes with Adrien their development is minimal which makes sense someone doesn't simply grow in a day but for how long it's been you'd think Marinette would have grown a bit more in the show, same could be said with Adrien, yeah I can subtle changes here and there but it feels like I'm staring at the same character who I saw in season 1, I do hope Season 4 can touch these two a little more and give them some sort of progress
My tearlist Is Chloe S Adrien C Alya B Ivan Unknown (Since we barely even see him) Stormy weather girl Unknown (Since we only see her when she's akumatized) Marinette D Liela D Gabriel Agreste D Natalie D Kim Unknown (we dont really see him As much as other characters) Max C Luka S Alex C (we dont really see her) Julia A Rose A Miss Boustiae B Nathaniel Between D and C Kagami B Mark Unknown (Since we barely saw him twice) Science teacher D (She's weird looking and we barely See her) Melen B Nino A Sabrina D (She's literally getting used cant see it) Marrinete's mom B Marrinete's Dad C All Kwamii's A Exept Pollen She's An S
I think your perspectives and reasonings on the rankings is interesting... Especially since it gives me a basis for compare and contrast with my own personal opinions on the characters in the show. While I don't 100% agree with all of the rankings here I think that for the most part you were pretty sopt on and had evidence to back up your decisions. I wouldn't be opposed to more videos like this one.
Juleka is strong and brave but has been akumatized three times by now. Reflekta isn't that strong either. Even with reflektdoll or the publishers trio she is a failure. She better get a miraculous at season 4
puts Luka at S //All lukanette shippers// *yes* Me being a lukanette shipper but knowing it’s not going to endgame ship- *yEs?* //All Adrinette shippers// *shoot-!*
I would like to see a video where you ask fans what they think will happen in season 4 and share the ones you liked or were different. I am the only person I know who watches the show and I have no one to talk to about it. I have thoughts and I’m dying.
Sarah Cottrell Nope you're not. That's me too. That's why I like writing comments and having discussions with others through them. Maybe we can talk if you want? 🙂
Kabsage IGJ okay! I am probably the only person in the world who thinks this but I think Ladybug should apologize to Chloé. She wasn’t thinking straight when she grabbed Kagami and the dragon miraculous. Chloé needs to understand that she has to EARN one back. But not the Bee. I think the bee is too Kwami is not the right fit for her personality.
Sarah Cottrell I think that is a very balanced view on the situation. It's true that Ladybug was distracted and not thinking clearly. However the only problem I have with the idea that she should apologize is that it would make Chloe think Ladybug was wrong for not choosing her. Chloe needs to learn she's not entitled to the Miraculous. The idea that she's not suited to the Bee is very interesting. Maybe she gets a different Miraculous when/if she gets redeemed. How much do you know/want to know about the new season? I was just about to mention some info we know about season 4 but I want to make sure I'm not going to spoil anything for you.
Aiden: (starts talking about how amazing lila is) Me: *Inhales* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Help me i hatethat girl with all my soul-- also no hate I love your channel Thanks for reading my rant of thinking. about how sucky lila is. thanks for scrolling! (again)
the only thing wrong with adrien is that he still thinks marinette is just a friend. Marinette on the other hand cant even tell that chat noir is the person she’s in love with. So if anyone is dense it’s her
The main difference is she chooses not to search for his identity whereas he does and still became blind and deaf about it, so technically she's not dense. She's smart 😊
im a fan of ML but how u rating these people is just how u like them and mostly if they evil or not and not about how they grow as a character like Cloe im really sorry that is my opinion of how u rating it but im still a subscriber
Neko Neko Nii! Agree. Chloe is a deep character. The world isn’t just black and white, I can’t like or dislike a character just bc it’s good or evil ( but in general I’ve always loved villains more than heroes ).
I almost thought that you have forgotten about Gabriel the second time that you were making this list. Thankfully you caught him before you ended the video. It was giving me a smart anxiety...lol
I love how everyone is complaining like “Adrien is not DENSE Marinette is to blah blah” stuff Or they dislike where he put some Characters I find it ironic they can make a whole rant about they’re opinion and how it’s right and some I agree with! But when he says a few words about a opinion he thinks they right a Whole essay how it’s wrong or just a few sentences how it’s confusion or just Incorrect to them when people have opinions it’s so ironic Lol (no hate to people who disagree with his Choices! But remember it’s his opinion and you shouldn’t rant about it)
I like this video. and why am i falling a sleep at my Computer again ? Yakko Warner " Good night every body!" Tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha that's all Folks,Muggles,Earthlings,Martians (bay-woop!) iris out fade out to black.
you on the first tierlist: hmmm... yeah this is my nice and naughty list (seriously, so many people which are nice are higher up and the meanies are lower)
If I were you, i would've put Chloe at the S tier. I know she's not a good person but she was actually so kind and caring, people couldnt really see it :< i think she was being rude because of her mother, her mother doesn't really care about her and even forgot her name.. she only had her dad and Sabrina, i felt so bad when someone's get hating on Chloe. And btw a good character doesn't have to be a good person or a perfect one ;)
Him/(Sorry Forgot his name TwT maybe Aiden? I heard): "Rose probably has to one of the least or last character to have a Miraculous..." Meh: "HELLO! I'M FROM THE FUTURE AND.... She's one of the first characters that have a Miraculous in S4 XD" Edit: 17:06 was the timestamp LoL
Me rewatching this he says rose is most likely,to be the last to get a miraculous but in season for rose it literally the first so this is awkward like if u have seen guiltrip
Police: How would you describe her?
Adrien: She's just a friend
@ღTheCoolNoodleAgreste ღ -Miraculer I did not expect this many likes in so little time tho😱
lol but like for real someone should make a comic on this
@@afia7710 I have I just dont upload. Thats why I commented this
@@Nxtqrs oh ok
@@afia7710 someday I will tho😂
“He is so dense.”
*INHALES*
He figured out her identity twice. TWICE. And Marinette didn’t figure it out once. And ADRIEN is dense?
In the first season, Kim is a meanie.
In the next seasons, he is a swimming talking wholesome child.
GachaLuv YT and he almost figured it out in Kwami Buster and Stormy Weather 2
That's because Marinette doesn't WANT to know his identity. Adrien does. Simple as that
Plus the fact that he’s been socially isolated pretty much his entire life
I know this was posted awhile ago but if you include oblivio then technically Marinette did figure out who he was.
flameball537 In stormy weather 2, no I really don't think that he did in that episode, he nearly found out Mari had a crush on him, I'll rewatch it after this video
2:03 THATS IT. Am I the only one that's getting sick and tired of everyone saying Adrien is dense and blind? He is the only character in the series that has actually figured out Ladybugs identity (Not once but twice!) Plus, Marinette keeps on denying her feelings for him. (Ex being puppeteer 2.) So how is he suppose to know she likes him? And let's not forget that Marinette is just as dense as Adiren is. I mean, she didnt know Cat Noir loved her until he officially told her in Glacitor. (Balcony Marichat scene, where she says "You're in love with Ladybug? For real?) And every single time Alya says Adrien looks like Cat Noir, Marinette says "Ugh, whatever. Hes a 1000% time more amazing then Cat Noir" (Ex being the Mime and Frighteningale.) Just ugh! 😠 I hate it when people say Adrien is so dense even tho Marinette is just as dense as he is! Ugh! 😠 Anyways, thank you for listening to my rant.
@Cadence Junker What do you mean by Adiren got it bad by Maris hair color?
Marinette is the true blind one here. I still agree about Adrian being dense and blind, but Marinette didn't figure out Chat liked Ladybug until season 2.
June Moon not only that but he’s pretty much been homeschooled for most of his life so it’s understandable how he doesn’t recognize Mari’s love for him. Her constant awkward encounters make it difficult for him to understand so yeah most of this density is on Mari
@@brycelacy3545 True
I mean you’re not wrong...
Cartoon Apocalypse: Adrien is to dense.
*meanwhile Adrien figured out marinette is Ladybug 2 times in the show*
Exactly!! Marinette is SUPER dense and still, nobody talks about this!
@@z-one5941 so true >.>
@@ibobam9215 Overall, I feel like something is off about this video. Most importantly the 2nd half: The main villain and the the 2 main protagonists are not in the S tier, BUT Luka is there?! What? Why? Luka is not as important to the plot. You can delete Luka from the show, nothing will change that much!
@@z-one5941 that's what I thought too! Placing marinette and adrien at a and b while they are supposed to be the main characters doesn't add up correctly
Ibo Bam Look at it like this: Aiden was thinking about the characters’ POTENTIAL to grow, not what they are already. That’s why the main characters didn’t rank very high.
Me: Cartoon Apocalyse has uploaded lets watch and see what he has today
Also me: " sees video tittle " oh no
The rest of the fandom: "Ready to attack if they take shots at their favourite characters "
They took shot at Kagami. Attack?
@Sarah S.
Abso-fricking-lutely.
@@sarahs.1973 idk, he went at Adrien, and he is my favourite character, hence Marinette
What's up with you saying Luka has more impact on the show than Adrien and Marinette have? Like, seriously?
What impact on the show could have the 2 main protagonist? Luka, a side character, who is pretty poorly developed is obviously "more important". I'm sarcastic.
@@z-one5941 i totally agree i hope that Aiden will have a look of the comments about it. He can like the character but for the second part about the importance of the characters in the story it is rubbish.
@@luz2759 Yes! The 2nd half of the video was so painfully inaccurate, that I actually didn't believe to my eyes and ears!
#lukanette
All I've seen luka do is be nice and exist... but like nothing else. I'm most annoyed when I see him in an episode because I just don't get his purpose.
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Lila: "How would you describe me?"
Adrien: "ABCDEFGHIJK."
Lila: "What does that mean?"
Adrien: "Adorable, beautiful, cute, delightful, elegant, fashionable, gorgeous, and hot."
Lila: "Aw, thank you, but what about IJK?"
Adrien: "I'm just kidding!"
#miraculousminibug
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LOL OMG
I saw this already 2 times
CHOSHASHI bsp same this is just a coiled comment
Okay, I've seen this once before, but I like the comment and it's funny but also Adrien wouldn't ever say that
@@frgge1474 hope he does....JK....i kinda like Lila she kinda reminds me of LILI from tekken but a darker version
Yeah I really hate Gabriel agreste i am so much cooler than him because I’m not a jerk dad
Oh REALLY?
I love these type of comments
Short name thank you I try my best
@@VillainBoss24 You're welcome! Thanks for cosplaying as a villain
ItzMeSakara what that’s crazy Gabriel was akumatized I wouldn’t akumatize myself
As a fan
1:58 Adrien
2:11 Alix
2:50 Alya
2:59 Armand D'Argencourt (Adrien's fencing teacher)
3:15 Art teacher
3:28 Aurore
3:53 Ms Bustier
4:20 Chloe
4:25 Gabriel Agreste
4:29 Ivan
4:39 Random guy
4:57 Juleka
5:18 Kagami
5:35 Kim
6:07 Lila
6:14 Luka
6:24 Marc
6:42 Max
6:59 Marinette
7:34 Mireille
7:45 Ms Mendeleiv
7:56 Mylene
8:02 Nathalie
8:24 Nathaniel
8:42 Nino
8:56 Rose
9:03 Sabine
9:08 Sabrina
9:14 Tom
From a show writer's perspective
10:37 Armand D'Argencourt
10:38 Art teacher
10:43 Aurore
10:47 Random guy
10:52 Adrien
11:25 Alix
11:37 Alya
11:49 Ms Bustier
12:05 Chloe
12:45 Ivan
12:57 Juleka
13:07 Kagami
13:30 Kim
13:43 Lila
13:53 Luka
14:10 Marc
14:14 Marinette
14:21 Max
14:39 Mireille
14:41 Ms Mendeleiv
14:57 Mylene
15:21 Nathalie
15:40 Nathaniel
15:47 Nino
16:11 Gabriel
16:50 Rose
17:15 Sabine
17:27 Sabrina
17:43 Tom
Yep got ya. 😐🙃
I think I'm not sure
The random guy is the akumatized boy from sandboy
@@Nyxx7389 No hes not
@@Tikkithekwami idk who he is then.
@@Nyxx7389 Idk who he is but ik for a fact its not the boy who was akumitized in sand boy bc the boy was young probably around Ninos brothers age (I do know Ninos brothers name dw)
16:21 “He’s sort of like the whole reason we have Hawkmoth.”
HE IS HAWKMOTH WHAT DO YOU MEAN
I know! I thought the same thing when he said that! 😂
Hello again by the way. ☺
Kabsage IGJ Haha! I knew we would find each other in the comments again. 😆
he is judging gabriel as a character without his hawkmoth side
When you think about it Gabriel is the reason why we even a have a story in the first place, every hero needs an antagonist. So in a way Gabriel is probably the most important character in the show.
What? I dIdNt KnOw ThAt!
For the most part i don't have a problem with your choices. I would put Adrien on the S tier for both lists. The first because he is an amazing character, even with his broken home life he still acts kind and cares for everyone, he can be dense but its understandable, he has been locked away for a good chunk of his life after all. The second list would be S-SSS because as a show writer you have this character that is a main hero but at the same time his father and secretary/nanny are the villains, his mother is in a coma in his basement, he has to constantly be on the move as a hero/modal/fencer/student/voice actor/Chinese student, that still keeps up appearances. Felix may become a threat, and he has some control over Lila and what she will be able to do as his "friend". to me this opens up an insane amount of things the writers can do in the future and all of these things can either cause him to break down or he can embrace all of his responsibility and use that experience to be a better hero and also help ladybug with her new balance of responsibilities as the new guardian. he just has some serious potential.
Now i may get hate for this, but i think Luka needs to be moved down A LOT at least in the first list because as of now he is just too perfect, its boring. But in the show writers list i would keep him in th S tier. In my opinion it would be amazing to have him be the "too perfect to be true" type of character and he eventually becomes a villain. Someone who has always been regarded as perfect could end up having a breakdown if something they are passionate about doesn't go their way. This could lead to a fall for him. As of now he accepts that Marinette may not like him the way he likes her, but if they end up a couple and he sees that she now does. Then when they inevitably break up he will break because he may not have been seen perfect like he always has been in the past and it will be a new experience for him. now the question would be, how would he react? That could lead to a strong villain and maybe not just an akumatized person. Also in my opinion this has peaked through a little. Now this may just be me seeing things but at the end of 'Desperada' when Luka and Adrien are playing the guitar and piano Luka does seem to have a challenging expression aimed at Adrien. Now that could be because of how Marinette sees Adrien, or something as simple as him challenging another musician in that moment. Then again i could have just been seeing things. Either way that would be a good thing to show for him and give him more depth and potential to explore.
Apologies for the long comment but i just felt like i should get my thoughts out there, maybe others will start to see thing a little differently now. maybe even give Cartoon Apocalypse and other fans some more things to brainstorm and theorize about. If not than that's ok too. Thanks for reading this if you did. Also it would be interesting to see everyones thoughts on this.
Deep
@@averemack lol i tend to get lost in thought a lot so i come up with lots of scenarios for things i am interested in at the moment. never really thought of it as deep but i can see that. I also like to see things from many different prospectives so i can understand pretty much every ones opinions as long as they don't go over bored with expressing them. i may have done that idk for sure i will have to see how people take the comment i guess. apologies if this is odd to anyone.
@@Enzelon nah your fine thats actually an awesome trait to have, do u know your personality type?
@@averemack nah i've never actually looked into that... may be interesting though.
back almost a half hour later to do this edit. i took a 16personality test and apparently I have a Mediator personality.
@@Enzelon if u want to understand yourself more, take the 16 personalities test it's pretty cool!
Anyone triggered how he put the FORKING TEACHER HIGHER THAN FORKING ADRIE🤨
Me !!!
I am o.o
nah
not me
I feel like Adrien's potential is super high because he can become emotionally unstable with certain secrets and how his family is a bit messed up... Anyone could just betray him at any moment it's sad.
I would love to make this into a series
You almost gave me a heart attack when i saw Chloe and Lila at S tier and Luka At F tier in the thumbnail
Mr. pear lmao ikr
Mari and Adrien in D
Aiden: Luka deserves nothing other than S!
Me: So the perfect boyfriend cliché with zero emotions and no personality is better than our 2 main protagonists and bunch of other characters? Nice.
I agree i have always found him boring and get a little annoyed by how many people put him on a pedestal. To me he is just bland, nice and everything nothing against him for that just not interesting.
@@Enzelon Most of the fans that put him on this unrealistically high pedestal are the fangirls who for some reason don't like the 2 protagonist. Yes, sounds super strange, but the Luka fans don't like Marinette... at all. And hate Adrien. Luka is basically what an average fangirl has always wanted: an absolutely perfect boyfriend with no flaws.
@@z-one5941 i can see that being true to an extent a lot of fans do think less of Marinette and Adrian, usually because they think Marinette is "creepy" or obsessed over Adrien and Adrien is dense similar to how cartoon apocalypse put him further down. To me though those aspects just show that they are imperfect and it makes them way more interesting.
Z- one
Ikr?!? Like, adrien and marinette should he at an s, especially with the plot, they affect the plot so much! Heck, without them, there wouldn’t even be a plot
@@miraculoustalesofobliviousness Exactly! Luka just can't be a S rank character, no matter what! He is just a third-rate character who doesn't affect the plot at all. Adrien and Marinette have the entire plot revolving around them and still... A and B rank?! WTF?! The list is not accurate!
Neither Adrien nor Marinette are in "S" ! DUDE C'MON !!!!
But Luka is an S tier character! Because he is "such a nice guy".
@@z-one5941 I know but why no Adrien and Marinette , they are the cause of drama, romance and comedy !
Guess all depends on what Aidan wants !!!
@@susmitamajumdar9792 Because the list is just not accurate. You can't have secondary characters ahead of the main protagonist and to claim that they are more useful. Luka special does almost nothing when he us onscreen.
Z- one bitch did you watch season 3? now stfu at least Luka cares about Marinette and pays her attention
Does anyone else wonder what would have happened at he beginning of the felix episode if Adrien hadn't thought his dad waas marrying nathalie?? I swear Gabriel was gonna tell him that he was Hawk Moth and that he want to wish Emily back to life. I really want to know what adrien would do... help his dad and give over his miraculous aswell as discover ladybug's identity or would he steal his dad's miraculous and give it to marinette (since she's the new guardian)?? Im rlly annoyed about this and couldnt gabriel tell him again please sometime in the next series??
Honestly I think Sabine should be an S in the first tier. She's so amazing with Marinette and everyone that comes into her home. But that's just my opinion. I also think that Adrien and Marinette should be an S too because of how much they help other's outside of their superhero forms. Again, this just my opinion. The rest I pretty much agree with though.
Marinette should stay at d
@@icecreamsunday6936 why??
thisrandomgirl hehe I can write a whole damn paragraph about why she should be in the d column.
@@icecreamsunday6936 give some reasons, please? I need some people's opinions about Marinette for a blog
thisrandomgirl hehe First of all, she’s obsessive as hell, and disgusting. She literally yelled at Lila because she was jealous of her causing her to become Volpina which didn’t need to ever happen if she wasn’t dumb. Second, She got people akumatized not one, not twice, but four times, Anasi, Antibug, Volpina, hell even more, Even got some knockoff Santa akumatized because apparently she think she knows what a akumtized person looks like.
Luka should be ranked D or F
I agree
May I ask why?
@@beaming1875 Because he is one dimensional Mary Sue. He has almost no personality and barely shows any emotions. He has aboslutely no flaws. And is just unreal. The only thing that he does when he is onscreen is playing the guitar and giving the audience the perfect boyfriend expression. Oh, and he interacts ONLY with Marinette. He has almost no importance for the plot.
Yes, I absolutely agree.
Ha love your channal reactions and 100% agree with you and your video explaining why you dislike him is spot on...just realised that could be a pun.. Sorry for that...
10:19 "At least putting my head in the shoes of the characters"
Me: Say what now? 😕
It's cool seeing your ranking of the characters in two different viewpoints. Would love to see more!
Ok yeah, Adrien is oblivious to Marinette’s crush on him, but at least he’s not a stalker or a bully. He’s so nice and kind, and has a really sad life. He doesn’t deserve so much hate just because he isn’t aware of someone else’s crush on him
Y’all, imma bout to go on a rant.
WHY DOES HE LIKE MRS. BUSTIER MORE THAN ADRIEN???
Chloe's development isn't being held back artificially because writer don't want to do it. Maybe she is capable to change but actually it's hard to see in the show. Chloe just had no reason to change. She was doing good things only to gain fame and having Miraculous only made even more arrogant. Chloe still treated Sabrina very badly and that's indicator of who Chloe really is when she doesn't think she needs to uphold standards of the hero behavior. Sabrina for Chloe symbolizes connection to her humanity and who she is inside.
Thomas Astruc and other writers in interview to "Le Figaro" said that Sabrina's devotion is a problem and it is going to change soon (probably in Season 4). Sabrina's devotion to Chloe is mysterious and it was even lampshaded in "Miraculous Secrets: Sabrina". Sabrina's development was canned because it is needed to develop Chloe. Authors didn't want to do it before because Sabrina's development is a thing that suppose to trigger Chloe's development. So it wasn't right time for Chloe to be developed, but now it is.
Chloe has central role in the show and Sabrina is going to be crucial part of it.
Agreed!
some things Thank you! You know Miracle Queen actually gave me more respect for Chloe's arc and how the writers are handling it. Now I have more confidence she'll get a solid redemption later on not simply, "oh we'll make her cry a little bit so people sympathize with her and than give her a miraculous but she'll still be a complete jerk to everyone around her"
People who say her betrayal came out of nowhere really need to watch season 3 again and pay attention to Chloe's behavior and motives.
some things I always loved Chloe and I will always do. And yeah she did queen bee stuff for attention but not everything for it ( like her video in felix and her protecting Sabrina in ladybug ). But I think she can truly change now. Sometimes to truly change/understand mistake, someone need to hit the ground and reach the bottom ( like what happened in MQ ). A character development process isn’t linear or fast. I think it would be useful for her development if Sabrina and/or adrien abandons her and she truly decides to change. I hope she won’t change too much, she’s so funny now, I won’t like her if she change totally
Kabsage IGJ it wouldn’t be the first time that there’s some bad writing in the show 😂 and yeah every episode with Chloe.. a queen in every episode
gabriele ronzino I'm not willing to call it bad writing before her arc is complete. I'm not sure if they always intended for Chloe to betray everyone but I do know there was always a plan to flesh out her character and give her the Bee.
I agree completely with the idea that Sabrina needs to abandon her . She simply needs to tell her enough is enough and she'll no longer tolerate the way Chloe treats her. I'm less confident this will happen with Adrien. He's often pretty lenient with people but because of Lila he could be learning to put his foot down more. Either way I believe the new bee holder will also be very important to her redemption.
He "now I'm going to rate them from a show writers prospective"
Me "oh boy I'm going to be here all night"
Marinette should be last, she's literally a stalker and doesnt face concequences.
Everyone else: *Rants about Aiden's list and for Aiden posting at night and staying up all night.*
Me: BuT PFt you Said YOu weRe GoNnA do gOnnA KwAmIs LaST I see NO KwAmiis On DaT LiST! LOOKk I HAve PRooF!
Random person: Did he say anything about kwamis?
Me: IDk where but I remember I need to rewatch it...
S : Adrien Marinette mrs. Busterie Nino sabin Alex
A : Alya Tom Rose Nathile
B : Mylene Ivan Nathaniel
C : Max Kim
D : Gabriel Luka Lila Kagami Chloe
Me: *watching tv with my mom*
My phone: Cartoon Apocalypse uploaded a new...
Me: *watches this instead of tv*😂
Luka is not an S no matter how you spin it. He’s literally so one dimensional, flawless and Mary Sue. He has no depth or realistic characteristics. He’s such a sucky character and an unrealistic person. He’s literally so generic and not well written at all.
@Disney_Otaku1990
I agree. I think he has potentional but right now he's flat, uninteresting and "too perfect."
Basically the perfect boyfriend cliché. He has zero personality and emotions. The fact that he is above Adrien and Marinette and bunch of other awesome characters... annoys me SO MUCH!
@@kabsageigj8941 i always thaught ot wpuld be interesting to go with the too good to be true route and make him a villain in the future. Only time this may have shown through is in desperada at the end when he was playing the guitar and looking at adrien on piano as if he was challenging him. Just look at the expression he has in that scene. Could just be me though.
Enzelon That would be an interesting way to go. I have a hard time believing it would happen but I wouldn't be completely opposed.
7:08 - 7:26 I AGREE WITH YOU I been thinking for while now but I was scare to say it because everyone loves her but like you said she does a lot of things for her like for example using her power being ladybug to take Kagami away from Adrien and she knew that she needed chole instead also created a bigger mess making chloe going against her because she choose to do something for her instead for her city...
@@youarenotworthless3628 I know right!
@@youarenotworthless3628 Yea...I think the best character its Cat Noir because he can be himself all the time but when he is Adrien he can't.....
@@youarenotworthless3628 not realllyyy, it was Chloe's fault that she believed the miraculous was a right, plus had she had a real hero perspective, she would have given the miraculous back as soon as she heard that it could hurt her friends and family
I would put Adrien as an S for the writing because we are already seeing how he's becoming more independent as the show continues. When he's Cat Noir he is fused with Plagg's personality which gives him an edge. So it's great to see him get a bit tougher and more edgy on his own without Plagg. He basically threatened Lila ( in the episode "Ladybug") into proving Marinette's innocence.
I wish the writers did a better job with Chole and Gabriel.
Let's all be honest with ourselves, Nathalie is basically Adrien's mom. In "Sandboy", Adrien in his nightmare calls out to Nathalie first, and then his father.
I was gonna sleep but never mind I don't need sleep
I STILL hve homework to do. Yet im watching this at 11 pm
Ya know I honestly like Kagami as a character and her character design is really pretty, I understand everyone has opinions and everyone’s is valid but I think she is underrated and really hated on.
I just don't like that she came in just to be a love rival for Marinette when she's clearly really independent. I would've preferred if she just stayed friends with Adrien cuz without her Marinette would not be so self conscious around Adrien in my eyes because she has to be compared to her constantly now.
@Quiet Opinion yeah honestly this show is said to be girl power but it's really just Marinette obsessive fighting over Adrien with other girls, literally every new girl is set to be a love rival
Guys who want *Adrienette* to happen to bad. Marinette’s name in Canadian and French means *“Just a friend”*
lol its night here and the notification showed up while I was sleeping even though I was sleeping I had to watch this vid lol gn 😅😴😂
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Yes well done
Turning this into a series sounds like an awesome idea!
I feel like you are grading the characters based on their actions and personality
I’d love it if you did a tier ranking series for anything and everything miraculous!! It’d be pretty cool to hear your thoughts on everything miraculous :)
I love Luka and Kagami. They deserve better
Would love to see a series of this, really liked the video!
Juleka: tiger miraculous
Rose: pig miraculous
Mylène: mouse miraculous
When he rated mari I thought love only blids even the most kind
Not gonna lie, Kagami is my favorite character (character that gets hate but still earns development) and I liked Chloe before Miracle Queen (I stood for the whole redemption arc). Dream Boyfriend is okay because he's the only person Marinette doesn't her supernice girl mask on around (supports her even when her friends and family don't).
P.S: Adrien over Chat Noir anyday. Chat is on and off when respecting Ladybug's feelings.
I would honestly put chloe higher, maybe a B or an A because I like how she kind of leans back and forth between being a b**** and showing her more vulnerable side.
People are saying Luka is pointless to the story. Personally I think that Luka will have some sort of secret or something that will make Luka more of an interesting character
15:21 Yessssss Nath my favorite character! She’s such an interesting person when she actually gets to do something. She progresses the plot a ton and I love her for it.
I just made a Tier List up for all the Kwamis if anyone is interested: tiermaker.com/create/miraculous-ladybug-kwami-tier-list-257739
Really enjoyed this video! Now I want to make a tier list for myself😄 Also I think this would make a great Thursday weekly!
I literally love his voice. I mean I could just listen to it for so long. Anyone else agree?
Honestly yes.
Same
Here is some food for though.
In season 3 ladybug episode we were given Marinette’s akuma name. But the fandom failed to recognize that we were actually given two possible names. Princess Justice and Verity Queen. The fandom just accepted that princess justice will be it. However someone pointed out that might not be the case anyway. And from watching some episodes it always shows the strongest first. Since it show Marinette bag turning red that means that was the first. Then Sabine’s ring. What name did scarlet moth said first? Verity Queen. That means Marinette akuma name isn’t Princess Justice but Verity Queen. And that makes more sense. Right in that moment Marinette had a desperate desire for the truth.
Desperate desire is the key to akumitization!
Nino was akumitized because he desperately wanted to help Adrien celebrate his birthday. Alix became timebreaker because she desperately wanted to save her watch. Ayla became lady WiFi because she desperately wanted the truth. And the final nail Lila became Volpina because she desperately wanted Adrien’s heart.
Akumas that don’t seem to fit together actually do because Of desperation.
Hawkmoth will have to trigger that state in Marinette again, he knows it is possible to akumitized her, the question is how
i’m sorry but i’m pretty sure marinettes akumatized name is princess justice and her mom’s is verity queen . i have proof to back up my statement
I also have evidence that Marinette akumitized name is Verity Queen
eddog6666 So my first evidence is that in MOST cases the word “Queen” is for people that are older and “Princess” is for younger people . 2nd , “Justice” is about being fair and all that stuff , Marinette got falsely accused and wanted Justice..so it doesn’t matter what order hawkmoth said the names it has nothing to do with which name is who’s . so if you must go ahead and tell me YOUR evidence :/
Not entirely true. You can have a Queen that’s younger then her mother or father. And Marinette’s Biggest pet peeve is someone not telling the truth. And Verity translate to Truth.
All Marinette’s near akumitization were because of someone not being truthful. And besides the show title of episode usually have wordplay in them. Remember syren? The actual akuma name is Siren.
eddog6666 they weren’t all because of someone not being truthful...and that’s why i said “most likely”..
Dense? Adrian? He’s a straight A student, knows multiple languages and is trained in martial arts and fencing….
Also, Marinette’s treatment of Adrien can sometimes be creepy.. sniffing his pillow, keeping presents for future birthdays, knowing his schedule off by heart, and feeling that she is entitled to him even tho she has never even admitted her true feelings, unlike Chloe, Lila and Kagami (not tryna defend Lila tho)
If I could give an honest opinion as a fan of this show, I don't like Adrien and Marinette as much as I used to, I don't know I guess you could say I grew tired of them, and now I focus more on the minor characters than them. I love the show, but I feel as if Marinette is a somewhat flat character, same goes with Adrien their development is minimal which makes sense someone doesn't simply grow in a day but for how long it's been you'd think Marinette would have grown a bit more in the show, same could be said with Adrien, yeah I can subtle changes here and there but it feels like I'm staring at the same character who I saw in season 1, I do hope Season 4 can touch these two a little more and give them some sort of progress
My tearlist Is Chloe S Adrien C Alya B Ivan Unknown (Since we barely even see him) Stormy weather girl Unknown (Since we only see her when she's akumatized) Marinette D Liela D Gabriel Agreste D Natalie D Kim Unknown (we dont really see him As much as other characters) Max C Luka S Alex C (we dont really see her) Julia A Rose A Miss Boustiae B Nathaniel Between D and C Kagami B Mark Unknown (Since we barely saw him twice) Science teacher D (She's weird looking and we barely See her) Melen B Nino A Sabrina D (She's literally getting used cant see it) Marrinete's mom B Marrinete's Dad C All Kwamii's A Exept Pollen She's An S
I was really excited when I saw Sabrina in the S tier! (In the thumbnail) 💖
I think your perspectives and reasonings on the rankings is interesting... Especially since it gives me a basis for compare and contrast with my own personal opinions on the characters in the show. While I don't 100% agree with all of the rankings here I think that for the most part you were pretty sopt on and had evidence to back up your decisions. I wouldn't be opposed to more videos like this one.
Adrien & Marintte are SUPERIOR they should be an S!!!!!
Adrian deserves a not lucka
S and yes
I- AURORE IS LIKE THE BEST SIDE CHARACTERRRRRR
Juleka is strong and brave but has been akumatized three times by now. Reflekta isn't that strong either. Even with reflektdoll or the publishers trio she is a failure. She better get a miraculous at season 4
puts Luka at S
//All lukanette shippers//
*yes*
Me being a lukanette shipper but knowing it’s not going to endgame ship-
*yEs?*
//All Adrinette shippers//
*shoot-!*
I am in between because l ship lukanette but l am confused cuz the master said they were meant to be
The master
That just confused me
Lol same XD
I would like to see a video where you ask fans what they think will happen in season 4 and share the ones you liked or were different.
I am the only person I know who watches the show and I have no one to talk to about it. I have thoughts and I’m dying.
Sarah Cottrell Nope you're not. That's me too. That's why I like writing comments and having discussions with others through them. Maybe we can talk if you want? 🙂
Kabsage IGJ yes but I’m not sure how to get you my email.
I meant we could talk here? I've had one on one conversations on TH-cam comment threads before.
Kabsage IGJ okay!
I am probably the only person in the world who thinks this but I think Ladybug should apologize to Chloé. She wasn’t thinking straight when she grabbed Kagami and the dragon miraculous. Chloé needs to understand that she has to EARN one back. But not the Bee. I think the bee is too Kwami is not the right fit for her personality.
Sarah Cottrell I think that is a very balanced view on the situation.
It's true that Ladybug was distracted and not thinking clearly. However the only problem I have with the idea that she should apologize is that it would make Chloe think Ladybug was wrong for not choosing her. Chloe needs to learn she's not entitled to the Miraculous.
The idea that she's not suited to the Bee is very interesting. Maybe she gets a different Miraculous when/if she gets redeemed.
How much do you know/want to know about the new season? I was just about to mention some info we know about season 4 but I want to make sure I'm not going to spoil anything for you.
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also no hate I love your channel
Thanks for reading my rant of thinking.
about how sucky lila is.
thanks for scrolling!
(again)
the only thing wrong with adrien is that he still thinks marinette is just a friend. Marinette on the other hand cant even tell that chat noir is the person she’s in love with. So if anyone is dense it’s her
The main difference is she chooses not to search for his identity whereas he does and still became blind and deaf about it, so technically she's not dense. She's smart 😊
im a fan of ML but how u rating these people is just how u like them and mostly if they evil or not and not about how they grow as a character like Cloe
im really sorry that is my opinion of how u rating it but im still a subscriber
Neko Neko Nii! Agree. Chloe is a deep character. The world isn’t just black and white, I can’t like or dislike a character just bc it’s good or evil ( but in general I’ve always loved villains more than heroes ).
@@gabrieleronzino3745 ikr they are just more intresting ☺☺😅
Pretty good character list. I agree quite a lot. Poor Nathaniel though. Separated from Marc 😢
I almost thought that you have forgotten about Gabriel the second time that you were making this list. Thankfully you caught him before you ended the video. It was giving me a smart anxiety...lol
I meant to say small typo
Hi! I agree strongly with your favourite list!
These are some interesting choices. Nice vid.
The unknown kid is Jean Duparc and he was akumatized into The Magician of Misfortune
I love how everyone is complaining like
“Adrien is not DENSE Marinette is to blah blah” stuff
Or they dislike where he put some Characters I find it ironic they can make a whole rant about they’re opinion and how it’s right and some I agree with! But when he says a few words about a opinion he thinks they right a Whole essay how it’s wrong or just a few sentences how it’s confusion or just Incorrect to them when people have opinions it’s so ironic Lol
(no hate to people who disagree with his Choices! But remember it’s his opinion and you shouldn’t rant about it)
I like this video.
and why am i falling a sleep at my Computer again ?
Yakko Warner " Good night every body!"
Tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha that's all Folks,Muggles,Earthlings,Martians (bay-woop!) iris out fade out to black.
Take Luca to the input Marinette and Adrian an essay they deserve it there’s a main character
I bet Rose will get the pig Miraculous!!
Where are Felix, Amilie and Emilie?
Many characters are missing😕 but it's an awesome video 🙄
That list is only updated to season 2. So anyone in season 3 was not there
@@CartoonApocalypse oh. thanks
Adrien is the only main character that's a C in the showrunner perspective. I dont know what to feel.
_YEAS_
You put Nathalie in S rank :’DDDDD
Villains for suuuuuure
Tho this also seems like an easy way to do quick reviews for each of the episodes (broken into seasons).
This is more of a Person ranking than Character ranking
Am I the only one who noticed that master fu is missing from this and also bunnix
you on the first tierlist: hmmm... yeah this is my nice and naughty list
(seriously, so many people which are nice are higher up and the meanies are lower)
Marc Anicel is a B
Hope Morphin However is an F
Marc Anciel Is A Better person than Hope Morphin.
So is everyone forgetting that Marinette found out Cat noir's identity in the Chat Blanc episode
If I were you, i would've put Chloe at the S tier. I know she's not a good person but she was actually so kind and caring, people couldnt really see it :< i think she was being rude because of her mother, her mother doesn't really care about her and even forgot her name.. she only had her dad and Sabrina, i felt so bad when someone's get hating on Chloe. And btw a good character doesn't have to be a good person or a perfect one ;)
Yeah i would do the same as you i like so much Chloe
I like Gabriel because he is very nice, he is just too blind to realize his own mistakes
I mean Lila do be my favourite character excluding chat blanc but ok :]
*sir you can’t compliment Lila like that*
Him/(Sorry Forgot his name TwT maybe Aiden? I heard):
"Rose probably has to one of the least or last character to have a Miraculous..."
Meh: "HELLO! I'M FROM THE FUTURE AND.... She's one of the first characters that have a Miraculous in S4 XD"
Edit: 17:06 was the timestamp LoL
Captions: hello its me from Karen Apocalypse
Me: What?
I love how Luka was an S for both tier lists (yes, I love Luka and so should you :))
Sh*t:
Awesome:
Basic:
Cool:
Damn!:
Yasss
I would have put Nathalie at a C but otherwise I agree with the ranking
I think Sabine is an S personally. She is a great character. She is like the adult we all wish we could be imo
Me rewatching this he says rose is most likely,to be the last to get a miraculous but in season for rose it literally the first so this is awkward like if u have seen guiltrip
Adrien and Marinette definitely deserved to be in the S category, I mean they are the main characters...