Removing a Tight Locking Wheel Nut.... Don't Shear Your Locking Wheel Nut Key.

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  • @don-qb4xb
    @don-qb4xb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Locking wheel nuts. The curse of every mechanic.

  • @twig3288
    @twig3288 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A man after my own heart. I’ve binned all the locking nuts on my cars, they’re nothing but a nuisance.

    • @malcolmbriggs4281
      @malcolmbriggs4281 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I did the same

    • @shishuali4821
      @shishuali4821 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep first thing I do when I get a car is take those effing things off!

  • @bartoszk4812
    @bartoszk4812 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I sheered off the pattern on my locking key exactly as you described! 🤦‍♂️
    I had ALL wheelnuts seized on my Focus! I didn't have a tourch so I first drilled through the spinning ring to brake it, drilled hole to the thread and sprayed WD40 inside.. then hammered a socket on them and they all let go eventually. God I was so pissed off with whoever tightened them b4. With the normal ones I was jumping on my breaker bar and they eventually let go too, but on the last one my USPro socket snapped.. how typical! I got it off in the end and got a replacement socket.
    I also ditched locking wheelnuts after that trauma! 🤣
    Great video Alan, as ever 👍

  • @markcherriman6136
    @markcherriman6136 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Totally agree with you junk the ruddy things . They were ok when alloy wheels were a luxury but now very few cars don't have alloys so less get nicked ( hopefully) .

    • @twig3288
      @twig3288 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A bit like radio codes, no one steals car radios anymore, thieves are more likely to steal your catalytic converter than your wheels and if they wanted your wheels the locking nuts wouldn’t even stop them.

  • @tiguanman1170
    @tiguanman1170 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My present car had damaged wheel bolts through ridiculous overtightening. Locking bolts were removable, several others had to have undersized sockets hammered on then a 3/4" breaker bar! All bolts have been replaced, no locking bolts now and I used a torque wrench on them.

  • @markpaul1154
    @markpaul1154 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got our local thief to remove mine when I didnt have the key, he had all 4 off faster than a formula 1 tyre change.

  • @usuallyfixingtinkering
    @usuallyfixingtinkering ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video alan, this is my pet hate - I now always remove the wheel nuts whenever I take a car to a garage or tyre shop... my experiences have been garages using air guns to wack the nuts up as tight as ****! Leaving the situation your trying to deal with whenever I want to get the wheel off at home. Absolute nightmare.

  • @johndavis3475
    @johndavis3475 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My friend bought a new Ford a couple of years ago and it didn’t come with a key .
    And as she was at ford to have her car serviced she was told she would have to buy one before the next service.
    They charged her £65 for a new key and then had the cheek to ask her if she wanted a new tyre for £300 !!.
    Being half Scottish and a bad temper. You can imagine what her reply was.
    I’m going to replace all mine eventually when I have the alloys refurbished, and put new chrome nuts on the alloys .

  • @user-by4oq2zw3z
    @user-by4oq2zw3z 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video.. you tell it like it really is…very good. It’s been more use than a lot of other videos.

  • @Justvids0
    @Justvids0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably one of the best videos on this issue 👏

  • @Mr.M1STER
    @Mr.M1STER 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember damaging the locking nut key on my mk4 mondeo and all 4 locking nuts were still on the wheels and tight. I have nobody else to blame, I damaged the key so no excuses there but I am just sorry that I didn't bin the lock nuts any of the previous times I had them removed. Anyway, went to scrap yards to see if any of them had a key that was similar. They all had buckets of keys but as you all may know, they are all slightly different for obvious reasons so I couldn't get one to work. Went into numerous tyre and alloy wheel shops to see if they had any removal tools or tricks for locking wheel nuts and I was asked what kind of car it was. When I answered I was told that that was a shame because they can remove any lock nuts they said apart from Ford. At this stage I got onto the internet and luckily found a video that shows a couple of very simple tricks to remove Ford locking wheel nuts. All it involved was forcing a small flat head screwdriver bit in between the spinning outer collar and middle part. This very easily breaks the spinning outer collar. Then all you need to do is hammer a 19mm, 12 point socket onto the round lock nut head and spin it off. Worked like a charm and I will never use lock nuts again.

  • @miketherefurbisher8000
    @miketherefurbisher8000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Tip Alan!! Many Thanks 😀👍👍

  • @colmone5592
    @colmone5592 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One extra thing I do is to slacken the other wheel nuts first. It occasionally takes some of the tension off the remaining
    wheel nut. When dealing with apart that has a bolt that will not undo, I remove the other bolts and attempt to move
    the part slightly. I also hit a bolt head with a hammer to shock it loose. With a nut you need to protect the thread
    by putting something over it. Using heat as with mig welding or a torch really works.

  • @glitchtheory6609
    @glitchtheory6609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mate thats a great idea, I am a alloy wheel refurbishment and powder coating company and locking wheel nuts are the bain of my day when they are over tightened,
    I will get my plumbers torch on it next time,,, it doesnt bother me if the wheels coating gets bubbled as I am going to be refurbishing the wheels anyway hahaha :)

  • @henryprice9331
    @henryprice9331 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Driving a few hundred meters with the handbrake on heats the hub (preferable) and works the same - knocks a tiny bit of life off the pads but a very sweet trick to try.

  • @adrianpearce2001
    @adrianpearce2001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good tip ,keep up the good work mate👍👍

  • @rusty911s2
    @rusty911s2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Warning! If using the MIG weld method (which works well) , critical not to earth via the wheel-bearing, so anything that turns with the wheel is fine (another wheel nut / stud using needle mole grips, brake disc), but not car body, suspension, calioer or carrier. Earthing through the wheel bearing causes micro-arcs between outer / inner races and the ball bearings. Effectively forming grit within the bearing.
    I always tighten the locking nut last and undo it first and usually torque it a little less than the others.

    • @alan4x
      @alan4x  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks rusty, good piece of advise🙂

  • @mondeovlog
    @mondeovlog ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job. As always very informative. I always thought fire would damage the alloy. Nice to know it wouldn't.
    I just want to add, I never tighten the lock nut more than 70 Nm. The other four nuts I properly get tightened to 110 Nm.
    Thanks for the video.

    • @st200ol
      @st200ol ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Al-Loo-Min-Um is a great conductor of heat so the paint never gets hot enough to burn. I was surprised too. :-)

  • @TheDaf95xf
    @TheDaf95xf ปีที่แล้ว

    Morning Mr mondingo man 👍🏻 Fantastic tips as always 👏🏻

  • @Christophergriffiths1972
    @Christophergriffiths1972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see this everyday in my job. I’ve used so many different methods now and I find the Lazer locking wheel nut removal kit. It basically breaks the sleeve off and then you can use a normal socket over the top. Failing that a Dynomec kit. There’s so many different ways to get them off now.

  • @arts6535
    @arts6535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video

  • @gavinfountain1182
    @gavinfountain1182 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sometime hitting it with a metal drift and a 4 lb lump hammer then trying the tool sometime work just be careful with the drift

  • @francois738
    @francois738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After having a lock nut key snap while trying to put a spare wheel on my wife's X3, leaving me in all sorts of trouble, I have also since removed locking nuts from every car I've owned since. Surely alloy wheel theft isn't even a thing these days? Perhaps if you've got some crazy rare 20-21" wheels or something, but bog-standard 16/17/18/19" wheels, it's surely not an issue these days. Besides, even with lock nuts, if someone really wants the wheels they'll have them anyway.

  • @mikeberry304
    @mikeberry304 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep Alan, that was proper FT 👍👍💪💪💪💪💪

  • @alextripp1230
    @alextripp1230 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice tip Alan. Alex.

  • @dbautowerkz6717
    @dbautowerkz6717 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can also use a kit made by Dynomec which actually work quite well too 😎

  • @roy2689
    @roy2689 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got a Kuga that had exactly the same locking wheel nuts and couldn't get them off, the wiggly bit of metal in the adaptor was damaged but not completely sheared off, when you tried to undo the nut the adaptor would just push away from them the nut, I used a different approach, although it took slightly longer to do, I drilled the head of the nut on the car and tapped it out to 6mm, then drilled a 7 mm hole through the adaptor and then essentially bolted/clamped them together then put my bar on and they came off, but you do need good quality drills and taps as the metal is harder than ordinary mild steel on the nut and the adaptor, and you need to go really careful with the tap, it squeaks and cracks as you turn it (plenty of oil/lube of some sort) and of course if you do break the tap then you're back to square one...

  • @SirReginaldBlomfield1234
    @SirReginaldBlomfield1234 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My lockers come off with ease, it's the other 16 that have expanded and rusted on so hope your technique will work for them too ! 👍

  • @chucky2316
    @chucky2316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They are mcguard lockers, I welded mine off and binned them. Hassle isn't the word

  • @stevehunt8122
    @stevehunt8122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alan have you/could you do a video on removal/refitting the intake manifold on the MK5 Mondeo 2L TDCI?

  • @paulclifford4469
    @paulclifford4469 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg what is it with ford wheel nuts!!! The standard alloy wheel nuts are an absolute disaster with them swelling never mind the locking wheel nuts 😳

  • @coolissimo69
    @coolissimo69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip Alan, could you help me out mate. I am trying to take off the wheel of my Mondeo Mk5, however, the socket I am using 19 mm or 21mm does not work, the 19 is little small and the 21 a little big.

  • @DS-iu5px
    @DS-iu5px ปีที่แล้ว

    Alan any advice to get these stubborn rear discs off a mk4 mondeo. Hoping to avoid a blow torch I'm very early in my DIY mechanic journey.

  • @martinjackson565
    @martinjackson565 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Trouble is those wheel nuts swell up too especially on a transit AA man couldn’t get em off I had too

  • @dariuszkaps1444
    @dariuszkaps1444 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alloys very fast disperse heat,
    and you right ,this lock nuts are f... pointles,i remember 8 years ago when i bought my mk4 mondeo somebody overtight nuts

  • @delwynhobbs3548
    @delwynhobbs3548 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Alan, a but off topic for this video but I have a 2016 Mondeo with the LED adaptive headlights, is there a way to manually adjust the height as the a aim is quite low. I though LED/Xenon had to auto adjust?

  • @marcrutzou716
    @marcrutzou716 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks Alan

  • @vivianhughes9347
    @vivianhughes9347 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great advice thanks Alan. Will be checking on my Mk3 at the weekend. Would it be an idea to maybe torque the locking nut a bit less than the other 4 on the wheel?

    • @family-accountemail9111
      @family-accountemail9111 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same I ll check mine tomorrow and tighten them up a bit loose ( and clean and lube them ) I don't won't a world of shit one night in the rain miles from anywhere! Or maybe I ll go to the scrappy and get some new bolts

    • @curtisj2165
      @curtisj2165 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@family-accountemail9111 l wouldn't under tighten them or lube them, they could back off and fall off

  • @brendangunn8026
    @brendangunn8026 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny this has just come up as I’ve lost my key 😱 now got the fun off trying to get them off

  • @robertfoley3515
    @robertfoley3515 ปีที่แล้ว

    We break the collor off the lock nuts and use a 18mm open ended socket and works no problem.

  • @marklittler784
    @marklittler784 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah suppose it would be an idea to supply sold cars automatically with an extension bar to make nuts easier to open especially for women, could be a god send in a stupid place.

    • @curtisj2165
      @curtisj2165 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always have one in my car, just in case

  • @ianjeffery3762
    @ianjeffery3762 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been there.... Done that.... The night before part-exchanging my MK3 Mondeo.

  • @paulfianatravels
    @paulfianatravels ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video interesting alan...just payed kwick fit £36 to take my lockers of 4 wheels and supply 4 new nuts ...lost the key

  • @GJCP911
    @GJCP911 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like the locking wheel nut key I need for my fiesta. Mine is broken and I can’t find anywhere to get replacement.

  • @bazraja985
    @bazraja985 ปีที่แล้ว

    Snap on ratchet also used as hammer to knock on locking wheel nut keys.

  • @timhancock6626
    @timhancock6626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a locking nut key fail. I ordered a new one in good time thankfully. My current car came with locking nuts. I've taken them off and bought four second hand wheel bolts off eBay. Does anybody steal alloys these days from the average car ?

  • @ford1546
    @ford1546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello. Can you tell me your opinion on the Ford Mondeo Titanium MK4 2011/2012 CC hatchback?
    I own one and am not happy! 2 l. 144hp auto.
    This is a mondeo titanium and not a vw polo!
    It is far too noisy inside while driving!!?
    Lots of stupid solutions
    as the instrument panel has tragically little info.
    Placement of seat warmer in front of cup holder.
    Motor data control front bumper front.
    Auto side mirror that goes into auto when you lock the car that you can't turn off.
    Petrol lid locking mechanism which has a weakness and needs to be replaced and takes the fuse. then you stand there and can't fill up with diesel!
    Front lights that shine more dimly than you expect.
    Car stereo that does not have the sound quality you expect from a Mondeo Titanium.
    Headlights that are no longer sealed and fill up with water.
    The large shelf plate in the trunk of the hatchback which is CHEAPLY made and breaks quickly if you lift it incorrectly.
    The floor plate in the luggage compartment is made cheaply and not well.
    screws for the seat belt in the back seat have screw holes straight through the bodywork and out on the underside. water and salt and everything hits the screw and it rusts.
    Suddenly high revs when you take off from 0. You can hardly press the gas pedal, when the turbo has spun up you suddenly have high revs and stand there for 2 3 seconds before it shifts. After that everything is 100% ok. and normal. gearbox data and engine data are not programmed correctly!
    and several other things I dislike!

  • @andyc3856
    @andyc3856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I binned the locking wheel nuts from my mk4 years ago.
    Those things are a liability.

  • @grahamshillingford8229
    @grahamshillingford8229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody needs a "whole world of shit"!!!!! Lets be honest.. top tip Al.. best on youtube, by a mile!!!

  • @patkelly7999
    @patkelly7999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great advice Alan🙏👍🙂

  • @mohammedpervez
    @mohammedpervez ปีที่แล้ว

    I had too bin them all 4 due too being pain in the bk side when I got mine new tyres on other 3 came off no issue but front left side was sooooo tight even impact gun couldn't take it off but lucky he managed too get it off after 20mins wack wack it meant too be 110nm but the bloke said looks like it's 150nm wtf. But no more locking nuts.

  • @theblueplayboy1
    @theblueplayboy1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now throw the locking wheel nuts in the bin 😉

  • @teecee90
    @teecee90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always ditch the damn things now. Unless it’s a high end car nobody nicks ally wheels these days anyway...

  • @kevinthacker8349
    @kevinthacker8349 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1st job when I get newer car is to replace all locking wheel nuts, where do u buy your replacement nuts from. Ford are expensive, but eBay can be monkey metal ( as u put it )

  • @michaeljohnson1006
    @michaeljohnson1006 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a tire place on holiday in France blow my air con clutch up.
    He took my car for a test drive without me knowing and bragged he did 190km an hour in my car.
    And then said u do realise you have got wheel nuts missing as i had taken the locking nuts out 😂

  • @hairynews8348
    @hairynews8348 ปีที่แล้ว

    How I wished you'd made this video a year ago !

  • @paulriggers1558
    @paulriggers1558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my trick is to take the other w/nuts off, send ramp up, position nut @ 12oclock, then stretch it by yawking between the back of the rim + the balljoint, flexing the rim by 3/4 inch. overtighten the rest back on + it comes off 80%. works best on w/bolts. the other 20% get a pointed windychisel down their necks. your trick doesn't work with oxy acetelene, wheels go brown

  • @blondieman63
    @blondieman63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There again, you could always tighten the locking wheel nut, start talking to yer neighbour, put yer torque spanner in the car , then drive off. Then remeber you never took the lock nut off and its gone, 🤣🤣

  • @Martin-dl8ph
    @Martin-dl8ph ปีที่แล้ว

    The only problem I have had is garages using air lines to remove locking wheel nuts

  • @davidrmcmahon
    @davidrmcmahon ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the YT agrorhythm dislikes that particular reaction!

  • @darkwinter-lll
    @darkwinter-lll ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You only need a locking wheel nut if you actually go into car shop for very expensive wheels there just factory wheels don't make sense

  • @scottsmith5226
    @scottsmith5226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    should do a video on getting the nuts off when the covers round/fall off. right pain then!

    • @dannymccann
      @dannymccann ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree,I struggle getting my focus wheels off because of the stupid tin foil covers deforming

  • @MyJon64
    @MyJon64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doing alot of heavy braking just before you attempt to undo the wheel nuts often does the trick also!

  • @michaeljohnson1006
    @michaeljohnson1006 ปีที่แล้ว

    I take the locking wheel nuts out of my car before getting tires fitted and i wont let them put them back as I've had someone fit them with an air gun😤 once and nearly couldn't get them out with a breaker bar.

  • @garybrown5500
    @garybrown5500 ปีที่แล้ว

    Occasionally you can get away with using a second person to hit the bar & socket onto the nut with a mallet while you put pressure on. This won't be popular but i'm going to say it. Tyre fitters don,t understand the concept of a torque wrench. Just watch them tighten a wheel with a gun, then reach for the torque wrench 'click click yeah that's torqued' (yes it bloody was 1 turn before you stopped tightening the crap out of it with the impact gun!)

  • @Grinder-one
    @Grinder-one ปีที่แล้ว

    It's just wheel nuts in general that annoy me and the way garages whizz um up with their air impacts and then 150psi with their torque wrench. I had the issue the other day, 6 foot scaffold pole over my giant breaker bar to remove a bloody wheel.
    Back in the 80's - 90's, blokes knew how to tighten a road wheel....women are supposed to be able to change a wheel at road side for crying out loud. Pinch um up, drop the car down and firm um up with a wheel brace. Why are people terrified that a wheel will fall off, it never happens, the noise you get from loose wheel nuts is horrendous as the wheel wobbles on the hud long before the nuts fall off.

  • @chrisbell-pctechnician3784
    @chrisbell-pctechnician3784 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top info there.

  • @marklittler784
    @marklittler784 ปีที่แล้ว

    God knows why people are so obsessed with tightening wheel nuts it's so obvious if they're loose well before the wheel would come off.

  • @khennahsfarm2610
    @khennahsfarm2610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we use lube if its too tight ?🤔🤔

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dno but I put grease on wheel nuts before refitting.

    • @khennahsfarm2610
      @khennahsfarm2610 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marklittler784 i never done any mechanic stuff rather than reconnecting the wiring of my car..good thing is,i always have Alan if im in trouble ☺️☺️😚

  • @user-hi4yy8yi3p
    @user-hi4yy8yi3p ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @cristyliviu
    @cristyliviu ปีที่แล้ว

    Take them out and throw them away! After braking the spaner, that was it.

  • @meknownothing
    @meknownothing ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy a dynomec set easy

  • @marklittler784
    @marklittler784 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not actually difficult or space using to carry a gas canister blow lamp.

  • @johnchincotta1qwdb15
    @johnchincotta1qwdb15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make or break lol.

  • @duckhunter8203
    @duckhunter8203 ปีที่แล้ว

    The locking wheel nuts aren't a problem, it's the idiots who don't torque them up when fitting them to the correct torque setting. And trying to remove the with a impact gun which smashed the insides out!

  • @rmc5278
    @rmc5278 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone still actually steal wheels anymore 😆

  • @paulmoore6345
    @paulmoore6345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I take mine off bloody nuisance

  • @neilobusk
    @neilobusk ปีที่แล้ว

    Nuts ...complete waste of time.... nowadays..... no money in wheels..
    Cats is the thing..
    just nick the entire range rover instead...
    N x

  • @tiborhadnagy860
    @tiborhadnagy860 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had exactly the same problem after when I bought my mondeo. When the tires are changed, I always say that there is no need to tighten very hard the wheel nuts and never have problem like this. And by the way this people in the tyre service or the owner of the car they don't know the grease?

  • @yousefbhoyroo6960
    @yousefbhoyroo6960 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr Broken wheel cracker

  • @alan67676
    @alan67676 ปีที่แล้ว

    Undoing the other 4 nuts, helps aswell.