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  • Teen Titans is one of our favorite series here at Channel Frederator, so we thought with the Teen Titans Vs Teen Titans Go movie we should unpack the complete timeline of Teen Titans!
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    The original Teen Titans series was such an amazing series, seeing the adventures of Robin, Starfire, Beast Boy, Raven, and Cyborg every week on Cartoon Network was great. So we thought with the new Teen Titans Vs Teen Titans Go movie out we should go through events of the original Teen Titan series and the Teen Titans Go comics to put together the complete Teen Titans timeline.
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  • @daniaalkhan4702
    @daniaalkhan4702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6149

    This show needs to comeback. It really set the tone for cartoons back then.

    • @嘉琳-q5i
      @嘉琳-q5i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      It might get a comeback soon according to warner brothers so let's be hopeful they do one :)

    • @daniaalkhan4702
      @daniaalkhan4702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      @@嘉琳-q5i hopefully they don't ruin it with those woke bs currently dominating movies.

    • @kermitmuppet5610
      @kermitmuppet5610 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Mikito Nakahara
      It won't teen titans go got a season 6 and not 2003 teen titans

    • @嘉琳-q5i
      @嘉琳-q5i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@daniaalkhan4702 if it makes you feel better you can think of those movies as a part of an alternative universe and is not the main one :)

    • @嘉琳-q5i
      @嘉琳-q5i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kermitmuppet5610 let's have hope they can ya?

  • @itsshiep3732
    @itsshiep3732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9229

    This show was canceled years ago, and the fandom is still active.

    • @redrebellion6028
      @redrebellion6028 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      Its Shiep annoying kid: “TeEn TiTanS Is DeAd, Go Is WhErE iTs aT”

    • @qrafy
      @qrafy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +372

      The old one is more mature, I feel like on the new teen titans go even the sad moments are trying to be funny..

    • @ok.4720
      @ok.4720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@qrafy What?? hmm I didn't even know it had sad parts in that show

    • @ok.4720
      @ok.4720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@qrafy It was supposed to be sarcasm it was supposed to mean that the new one can't take something seriously

    • @qrafy
      @qrafy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@ok.4720 IK and that's the worse part about this show, if ur older than 14 ur gonna find it boring and repetitive

  • @midgettiger6389
    @midgettiger6389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1816

    The multi-personality Raven episode and Beastboy reliving his past are my favorite episodes

    • @stelena1406
      @stelena1406 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Raven .-. Honey, personality and emotions go hand in hand

    • @FallingStary
      @FallingStary 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They are emotions when together are her personality.

    • @DaGoodVybe
      @DaGoodVybe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MidgetTiger yes !! Oh my goodnesa

    • @kaylayed
      @kaylayed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Raven .-. whats so wrong with saying "Honey". And really, its kinda dumb that you're pretending to be Raven.

    • @MalakSmalak
      @MalakSmalak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@kaylayed lol let her/him do what they want. It's not hurting anyone

  • @m333lly5
    @m333lly5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10592

    Petition to have the original Teen Titans added to Netflix

  • @SplitHead12
    @SplitHead12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1219

    Why is no one talking about how smooth that advertisement transition was

    • @goosequillian
      @goosequillian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Because we all skip advertisements.

    • @thescarecrow897
      @thescarecrow897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      paid actor

    • @Mark-ym8zk
      @Mark-ym8zk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      EXACTLY!

    • @nynnief7807
      @nynnief7807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I was about to skip it but hey, I see Kimetsu No Yaiba, Naruto, My Hero Academia and all that, so I didn't

    • @Noclevernameshere
      @Noclevernameshere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      mainly because it wasnt smooth and left us confuesed as to why they were talking about anime

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3654

    The original Teen Titans was amazing

    • @ll-js7iq
      @ll-js7iq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      true dat, r.i.p.

    • @AB-hd9ej
      @AB-hd9ej 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It was so deep

    • @theblackphantomthief
      @theblackphantomthief 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same

    • @adent6827
      @adent6827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I ALWaYS see u

    • @code123red
      @code123red 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Just Some Guy without a Mustache This is not the original Teen Titans.

  • @DarkFabled14731
    @DarkFabled14731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3188

    I didn't know StarFire had a younger brother. I wish he would've gotten introduced in the show

    • @garthdavis2502
      @garthdavis2502 5 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      Terra also has a brother.

    • @DarkFabled14731
      @DarkFabled14731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +260

      @@garthdavis2502 Terra's brother I already knew about, but I didn't know Starfire's family pulled a Superman

    • @oraclezone5026
      @oraclezone5026 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Wildfire/Ryand'r is mentioned in the Teen Titans Go comics (don't confuse them with the terrible reboot). Geoforce makes his appearance in there too.
      Oracle ✨🐞🐾🎧🍕❤

    • @RandomGerman8008
      @RandomGerman8008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Starfire's brother is in the original show. for like one episode.

    • @emilytaylor6306
      @emilytaylor6306 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@RandomGerman8008 no he isn't. what episode are you thinking of?

  • @tac0sd3p0llo3
    @tac0sd3p0llo3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5651

    Seeing Slade’s daughter and starfire’s brother makes me wish they continued the show

    • @LoD619
      @LoD619 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Luv_panda2087. Jericho was in it

    • @morganrussman
      @morganrussman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      @@LoD619 but I don't think they ever really poked too much at the idea that Jericho was Slade's son. I think they might have a bit in season 4 before Trigon appeared, and Jericho 1st appearance in the show wasn't until probably mid to late season 5.

    • @LoD619
      @LoD619 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      morgan russman. Maybe they will with season 6

    • @morganrussman
      @morganrussman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@LoD619 maybe.

    • @jaernihiltheus7817
      @jaernihiltheus7817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@morganrussman Jericho's first appearance was actually in episode 11 (episode 12 is the big battle episode, basically the Season 5 finale, and 13 was the series finale).
      He was probably meant to appear earlier in Season 5, what with them originally being given 20-something episodes to work with before CN cut it down to just 12 then a 13th to wrap up the show, buuuuut CN isn't really known for their good decisions when it comes to quality shows they have..
      Season 6 was meant to revolve around the Starfire/Blackfire/Wildfire (Darkfire in the comics) stuff, so outside of a potential solo episode for him I doubt Jericho was meant to get his big arc in S6. That being said, I do think that if they'd gotten a S6 and 7, S7 would have entirely focused on Slade/Grant/Joe/Rose/Adellaine/Wintergreen stuff and would have been designed to be the grand finisher - going back to where the series started with the Slade arc in S1, and having various other call backs and pay offs from the other 6 seasons.

  • @xsakic1772
    @xsakic1772 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3212

    In another timeline, the original Teen Titans never stopped airing and Teen Titans Go never existed... I wished this was ours :(

    • @MalakSmalak
      @MalakSmalak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Same bro, same :(

    • @SkylerDemness
      @SkylerDemness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I agree with you 😔

    • @MalakSmalak
      @MalakSmalak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@SkylerDemness ;(

    • @sakamata2588
      @sakamata2588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Only if it happened

    • @zerocrashmurilo
      @zerocrashmurilo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I wish it’d happen

  • @twilightflux6287
    @twilightflux6287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +787

    About Terra being alive and stuff, remember that she *turned* to stone. After Raven defeated her father, every person that turned to stone was revived so Terra was also revived. Got this from some TH-cam comment

    • @DoomBoy8000
      @DoomBoy8000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I saw the same too. It was really helpfully that every fan saw that.

    • @pidorsunday187
      @pidorsunday187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      but can you explained her memories lost?

    • @Ordep_Aviaras
      @Ordep_Aviaras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@pidorsunday187 she didn't lose her memories as far as I remember, she just faked she lost her memories because she didn't wanted a new life(which is pretty selfish)

    • @somerandomchick9891
      @somerandomchick9891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@Ordep_Aviaras I disagree she just wanted to be a normal kid and I can’t really blame her after all that trauma

    • @Imma304
      @Imma304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Ordep_Aviaras she’s a metaphor for the memories we hold onto that no longer exist. The lesson of the episode was basically to move on and let go.

  • @powerrangerkid16
    @powerrangerkid16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1131

    Batman: alfred, plasmis has escaped, recruit a team of teenagers with attitude
    *teen titans theme starts*

    • @TheOGtokublaze
      @TheOGtokublaze 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Mr. Perfect Cell there was a justice league and mmpr crossover

    • @powerrangerkid16
      @powerrangerkid16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Mr. Perfect Cell i actually didnt know that

    • @driveasandwich6734
      @driveasandwich6734 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheOGtokublazewhats mmpr?

    • @TheOGtokublaze
      @TheOGtokublaze 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@driveasandwich6734 Mighty Morphin Power Rangers

    • @Frungi
      @Frungi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driveasandwich6734 Its opening voiceover is what the OP referenced.

  • @MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz
    @MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1829

    I miss this show and it’s prime as well...

    • @onyx7ven10en5
      @onyx7ven10en5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ok how are you even here??

    • @mokaalfred4914
      @mokaalfred4914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's coming back next year or something

    • @HarisButt6662169
      @HarisButt6662169 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Onyx 7ven10en exactly

    • @donaldcary1678
      @donaldcary1678 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I heard that too and I also hear it's going to come on adult swim in 2021 so I really don't know what's going on

    • @portgasdann3389
      @portgasdann3389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. I like Young Justice, but it isn't just the same.

  • @kjbeast677
    @kjbeast677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I like how Starfire's arrival on Earth was technically the catalyst that brought the Teen Titans together. It's a shame she never got her season dedicated to her during the show run.
    I actually think this show had the best origin for the Teen Titans, as it was alot more obscure in the comics.

  • @zacharywilliams3631
    @zacharywilliams3631 5 ปีที่แล้ว +563

    This is the best show like ever period. It went places that most adult shows will never go. It was so much more than a cartoon. It taught me a lot.

    • @Adambobadam
      @Adambobadam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      This and samurai jack are more than shows there works of art

    • @secretagent9474
      @secretagent9474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      60s Spider-Man lol i used the watch the theme song of samurai jack then switch the channel because aku scared me

    • @Adambobadam
      @Adambobadam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Esohe Osaghae haha

    • @WhiteDevil-vi5qx
      @WhiteDevil-vi5qx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Old is gold
      -said by 12 year old me.😁

    • @oathkeeperkingdom4909
      @oathkeeperkingdom4909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Adambobadam on Season 3 of Samurai jack The choreography in that is insane

  • @RandomLorence
    @RandomLorence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    0:00: Introduction
    0:37: Distant Past
    3:00: Previous Teen Titans
    7:41: The Apprentice
    11:02: The Judas Contract
    13:40: The Titans go East
    15:53: The Prophecy
    17:43: Teen Titans VS Teen Titans GO!
    18:39: The Brotherhood of Evil
    21:19: Trouble in Tokyo
    23:10: Teen Titans Unlimited
    24:02: The Drifting (Timeline B)

  • @GGstarryiou
    @GGstarryiou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    Cyborg needs to moderate his relationships

    • @chaosspooks
      @chaosspooks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      He’s a teenage boy.
      What do you expect?

    • @thethird3364
      @thethird3364 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Tell that to Robin. He has slept with most of the DC's female characters and is friend with all of his ex's.

    • @aerinh.3456
      @aerinh.3456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Third [3] i- wow okay

    • @remwifeyy
      @remwifeyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thethird3364 oh, um, wow

  • @breadlord2855
    @breadlord2855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    welcome to the team
    we got:
    batman's adopted son
    an alien girl
    a time bomb with demonic powers
    Garfield
    and a "man of steel"

    • @gamekid2310
      @gamekid2310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Ironic since beast boy‘s name is Garfield Logan

    • @Plankies
      @Plankies 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      alien girl lol

    • @akevomsahungyo9299
      @akevomsahungyo9299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      black man of steel

    • @breadlord2855
      @breadlord2855 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@akevomsahungyo9299 nah that would be the snyder cut superman with the black spandex

    • @Raven-vo1fc
      @Raven-vo1fc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or maybe a brat with green skin lol

  • @holyravioli5795
    @holyravioli5795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    Wow, star-fires origin is alot darker in the comics.

    • @johnnyvivic8730
      @johnnyvivic8730 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Everything is darker in the comics.

    • @breonawarren1507
      @breonawarren1507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I mean it was kinda dark in the episode they met. She was a prize, a prisoner.

    • @LeftyPencil
      @LeftyPencil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      was calling it Depressing Comics, but Dark Comics rolls off better

    • @visibleconfusion782
      @visibleconfusion782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It’s even darker in the original comics. There’s a reason why she felt that honorable death in battle was better to the pain of living. It’s the main conflict between her and Robin/Nightwing in comics.
      Luckily, TTA Star escaped the Gordanians before entering the Citadel.

  • @imnotproudtobeloser9815
    @imnotproudtobeloser9815 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Starfire’s younger brother and Slade’s daughter: *exsists*
    The person who created Teen Titans Go: *im gonna end this whole mans(and womans)carrer*

    • @Dj0Hn25
      @Dj0Hn25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      o

  • @tormxnta
    @tormxnta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Just realized that Cyborg being a fake villain called Stone is a reference to his real name, Victor Stone. Hah.

    • @Jkizzle4996
      @Jkizzle4996 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Aight but why are there like 3 Sarah simms

  • @Vulcan17
    @Vulcan17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +728

    Why didn’t you even bring up Silky

    • @dazc9965
      @dazc9965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      the most important character

    • @luisavila4003
      @luisavila4003 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Never heard of him 🤨😲

    • @dullicecream
      @dullicecream 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      She kept bringing up Sarah but didn't even mention Silky lol

    • @hsuanne1106
      @hsuanne1106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Silkie needs more attention

    • @sourpuss5951
      @sourpuss5951 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      To be honest that was the most heart-wrenching episode for me. I'm a sucker for pet stories.

  • @TehGoldylockz
    @TehGoldylockz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    I just like that Robin hated the "Go" titans as much as the OG fandom does. Because gods do I hate what they did to the Teen Titans >.

    • @residentevil2928
      @residentevil2928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      God*

    • @ronswanson7371
      @ronswanson7371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Code Bunny no 🙄

    • @O.M-
      @O.M- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@residentevil2928 shut up

    • @nmoney6655
      @nmoney6655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@residentevil2928 I think that teen titans go is better but my twin brothers don’t think so they of course grew up on the show I grew up on the 1st show mentioned upbobe

  • @jashardwallington
    @jashardwallington 5 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    Well robin was 15 or 16 when the series started cybrog might be older so at the end there prob in there 20s

    • @jashardwallington
      @jashardwallington 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Raven .-. Interesting

    • @jashardwallington
      @jashardwallington 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @Raven .-. How are u and beast boy yall got kids yet

    • @jashardwallington
      @jashardwallington 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Raven .-. Thats a yesss Or did you breakup and crash starfire and nightwing wedding signaling the return of trigon

    • @justanawkwardnerd
      @justanawkwardnerd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I thought Robin was 13-15 (leaning on 14-almost 15 from when they first met up), and Cyborg was 16-17. BB and Raven were between 13-14, and I want to put Raven as the older one. Star was the human equivalent of 15-16 in my head, though I don't remember them ever talking about her age in numbers, and considering she's an alien, her lifespan may not quite match. That was my assumption, at least.

    • @krisi192995
      @krisi192995 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      they're probably in their*

  • @jasontoddenthusiast7498
    @jasontoddenthusiast7498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    “And all the titans have powers”.
    Robin: Reverse Card Activate
    Edit:thx for all the likes

    • @zacharywilliams3631
      @zacharywilliams3631 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Robin is like Batman super intelligent and resourceful just a good person period that's his superpower

    • @jasontoddenthusiast7498
      @jasontoddenthusiast7498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Zachary Williams it’s not he’s just smart

    • @zacharywilliams3631
      @zacharywilliams3631 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jasontoddenthusiast7498 i bet robin has an IQ of like 200+ bro😂👌

    • @jasontoddenthusiast7498
      @jasontoddenthusiast7498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zachary Williams IQ like six thousand

    • @jasontoddenthusiast7498
      @jasontoddenthusiast7498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Zachary Williams I think his powers is his acrobatics

  • @itzbebop
    @itzbebop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Season 1 - robin
    Season 2 - Terra
    Season 3 - cyborg
    Season 4 - Raven
    Season 5 - Beast boy
    And Starfire had scattered moments through it all

    • @nathan-cy4vx
      @nathan-cy4vx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Season 6 was supposed to be about starfire

    • @Glitzypink123
      @Glitzypink123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@nathan-cy4vxThat’s why we need Season 6!

  • @M1K4S4
    @M1K4S4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    Once I see teen titans, I click.

  • @derpypikachu2294
    @derpypikachu2294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    I remember when i watch it when i was 5 years old and was sad with the cliff hanger

  • @masterjakari
    @masterjakari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    I’m really ready for season 6 and it’s been over 13 years like c’mon now 🙄🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @jarrettbatchelor1873
      @jarrettbatchelor1873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Savage Lion Seriously 😐

    • @SeviraMiscarthe
      @SeviraMiscarthe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Savage Lion it got canceled

    • @jarrettbatchelor1873
      @jarrettbatchelor1873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Luna Wolf Ik, I was agreeing with him 💁🏼‍♂️

    • @tobias03coimbra52
      @tobias03coimbra52 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never lose my hope
      Incredibles 2 came out so...

    • @loveladii69
      @loveladii69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tobias03coimbra52 incredible 3 coming out in a month ors ome

  • @lulooper
    @lulooper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Gotta admit,my favorite episode was when Robin was forced to go on a date with Moth's blondie daughter and Starfire got crazy jealous 😂😂

    • @Raiden-the-Goat32
      @Raiden-the-Goat32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah and star fire and killer moths daughter got in a fight lol.

  • @Offatabb1999
    @Offatabb1999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Anyone remember mad mod and that whole hypnotic battle with a Japanese song,pretty dope

    • @naye7478
      @naye7478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was amazing 😂

    • @Raiden-the-Goat32
      @Raiden-the-Goat32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How could anyone ever forget mad mod ?
      That villain was one of a kind.

    • @migaish_
      @migaish_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just watched that episode recently, it's one of my favourites lol (season 1 ep 10)

    • @sapphiresupernova
      @sapphiresupernova 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That song is K2G by PUFFY AmiYumi, the band who sings the theme song! (The English lyrics translate to something that honestly shouldn't have been in a family friendly show)

    • @Raven-vo1fc
      @Raven-vo1fc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes lol it was hilarious

  • @pawn_soldier_12vjellah42
    @pawn_soldier_12vjellah42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Teen titans are my favorite dc show

    • @seejayx736
      @seejayx736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pawn_Soldier_12v Jellah
      I Wanna Make a DCEU Teen Titans Movie (based off the 2003 series)
      m.th-cam.com/video/8KA7B29vlEY/w-d-xo.html

    • @michaeloluwajuyemi4546
      @michaeloluwajuyemi4546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine too!

  • @hateraidfree9392
    @hateraidfree9392 5 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    So basically all the comics really add to the timeline is Cyborg has a girlfriend

    • @christiancrusader9374
      @christiancrusader9374 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still fun to read.

    • @GODOFAWSOMENESS1
      @GODOFAWSOMENESS1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HaterAidFree that is obviously the most important thing.

    • @christiancrusader9374
      @christiancrusader9374 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      They also fleshed Jynx and Kid Flash out a little more and gave some closure to "Things Change" by confirming that it was Terra that came back.

    • @jarrettbatchelor1873
      @jarrettbatchelor1873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HaterAidFree I always thought it was Jinx from the get go, but I never knew about Sarah 🤔

    • @jennygreat4846
      @jennygreat4846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Starfire has a brother. Terra has a brother. Everyone's real origin story (track star cyborg, beast boys parents) cyborg lowkey cheating on his girlfriend with jinx. The end of the world. Slade has a daughter, rose.

  • @b.sharp.
    @b.sharp. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    That thumbnail pic of Raven is all like "uhhhh beast boi, I can giraffe too"

    • @METAL_MILITIA777
      @METAL_MILITIA777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What?

    • @b.sharp.
      @b.sharp. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@METAL_MILITIA777 she has a strangely long neck in that photo

    • @METAL_MILITIA777
      @METAL_MILITIA777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@b.sharp. tf cares

    • @b.sharp.
      @b.sharp. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@METAL_MILITIA777 the 136 people who liked my comment

  • @Plaguestray
    @Plaguestray 5 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    Was I the only one who had a HUGE crush on Raven as a kid?

    • @qcripplethesavage1019
      @qcripplethesavage1019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      KazB I did have a crush on her and Starfire

    • @justanawkwardnerd
      @justanawkwardnerd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I wanted to BE her - loved the badass goth-mage-demon-girl. I think I was more attracted to Jinx (and Terra, honestly), though. Too much admiration in there, I guess.

    • @annebird9195
      @annebird9195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Nah man. Robin always stole my heart

    • @sourpuss5951
      @sourpuss5951 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Hoooo boy, I can't even begin to describe how popular she is in the rule34 community...
      So no. You're far from special.

    • @jimjohnston5719
      @jimjohnston5719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is given the Fan Service treatment in the Go! franchise with her alter ego "Lady Legasus".

  • @despacitospider7590
    @despacitospider7590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Just watching the clips, I’m feeling some heavy nostalgia

    • @cubex61
      @cubex61 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      DeSpAcItO sPiDeR việt nam

  • @mavioli3303
    @mavioli3303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    Didn't know raven was conceived from r*pe ... Interesting

    • @parker0216
      @parker0216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +242

      she was conceived from rope? that is Interesting

    • @totallynotafanficreader7850
      @totallynotafanficreader7850 5 ปีที่แล้ว +222

      Ripe? Yes, raven is very ripe.

    • @mavioli3303
      @mavioli3303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Y'all oml

    • @LandSharkCorner
      @LandSharkCorner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      It was implied in Teen Titans vs Justice League

    • @coreyklaustermeier7329
      @coreyklaustermeier7329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Deadpool NOOOOO!!! RAVEN DONT DO IT!!!! 🥺I love you.....

  • @suzumeko7
    @suzumeko7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I'm here to cheer and cry for my childhood. This series was just tooooo awesome!
    It might not be the cartoon we deserve, but it is definitely the cartoon we need...

  • @ladycrow3130
    @ladycrow3130 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Jacob butting in with the GO movie info is literally the best thing ever

  • @Space_Roach
    @Space_Roach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +579

    I'm confused as to why the original Teen Titans got cancelled.

    • @jimjohnston5719
      @jimjohnston5719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      I get the feeling only Cartoon Network could really answer that. All we can do is hope that this push to possibly bring the original back keeps going. Although if you don't take it as serious and take it as non-cannon, the Go! series isn't so bad. Heck of a lot better than the effort to make a ThunderCats version.

    • @nerdylab8746
      @nerdylab8746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      From what I've heard, the show was aimed at boys (idk the age range) but then more and more girls took interest in it. Since the show also depended on the selling of comics and toys (and most who bought toys were girls who prefered, for example, raven and starfire dolls instead of every other toy that was made about the show) it didn't have much money. They had also originally planned to end with the movie of when they go to Japan to defeat the ink monster but kept going since the movie made good money.

    • @christianclark7019
      @christianclark7019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me too

    • @theyoungking1
      @theyoungking1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well, Teen Titans Go! isn't as, "dark" as the original Teen Titans, so maybe they wanted less kids to have nightmares?

    • @breonawarren1507
      @breonawarren1507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Toy sales honestly. And this is what really blows me- The show was directed towards boys, but they had a huge female fanbase. But girls weren’t buying the toys as much as boys (which also wasn’t that much) and because of that reason it got cancelled. Or at least that’s what was told. Back then toy sells meant a lot, even today but more along the lines of memorabilia.

  • @philmstud2k
    @philmstud2k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    WE DEMAND SEASON SIX WITH THE CLASSIC HAND-DRAWN CELL STYLE!

    • @cashwin45
      @cashwin45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That doesn't even make sense... cell-shading is a technique used to make *3D MODELS* look like cartoons... Teen Titans was *already* 2D cartoon... it's not "cEll sHadeD" if it's literally *already* a CARTOON.

    • @SpiteAnims
      @SpiteAnims 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cashwin45 he may have meant cel shading

  • @acramish
    @acramish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "5 smelly hormonal teenagers living in closed quarters" hahahahahaha!

  • @brebarnes6867
    @brebarnes6867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    "They all have powers"
    Me: Hun, I'm not so sure about that. *thinks about robin, the human one"

  • @VidiaReePhoenix
    @VidiaReePhoenix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    8:53
    "Slade is coming." As he watches a dozen monitor screens with Robin on it.

  • @valor2106
    @valor2106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This show makes me so sad cause its so old and i truly loved this show and just wanted more 😣

  • @DirectorsChoice
    @DirectorsChoice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I was so obsessed with Starfire and her sister and was so disappointed they didn’t talk about their relationship more before the show ended. I wish they’d gotten a little more time at least :(

  • @legofan6559
    @legofan6559 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love the final fight scene with the brotherhood of evil, its my favorite scene of any show I've seen since its so great especially the HIVE's reaction to jinx switching sides

  • @Jesse_Bell
    @Jesse_Bell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Anyone else loves Beast Boy and feel so upset when everyone not give him the attention that he deserves.
    I love characters like BB such as 2012 Series of TMNT Michelangelo (Mikey) the misunderstand Buttercup (Powerpuff Girls), & Amethyst (Steven Universe)
    If the 2003 Series of TT comes back I would it to first Focus on Starfires story then back to BB and the Rest of the Teen Titans (maybe from other sectors like East or South TT) for more character development on them as well

    • @jaernihiltheus7817
      @jaernihiltheus7817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If it comes back, I want them to adapt BB's story about why (in the comics) he changed his name from Beast Boy -> Changeling in between the 70's original Teen Titans runs and the 80's New Teen Titans runs (the NTT runs are the ones 99% of the stories and characters in the show are all based on btw. Brother Blood, Terra, Blackfire, Deathstroke, Starfire, Raven, Trigon, Cyborg, etc etc were all created in most cases *very* early on in the NTT comics).
      There'd need to be a few changes of course, one of the defining traits of comics BB is that he's had like... 3 sets of parents over his lifetime from the ages of about 10 to 15, and out of those 6 or so parents the only one that's left alive is Mento (Rita aka Elasti Woman is dead at this point), and the single issue story deals heavily with that "depressed, traumatized teenager who laughs in order to stop himself from crying" thing that is the core of the comics BB character.

  • @rexrivers2220
    @rexrivers2220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I cry every time I see this show
    Why did it ended?

    • @chunzee2954
      @chunzee2954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      echo winter I thought I was the only one who cries watching Teen Titans

    • @Vexvaporrub
      @Vexvaporrub 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not enough toy sales

  • @jasonl1184
    @jasonl1184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    You telling me never in the history of teen titans did they meet up with static

  • @JayJayden45
    @JayJayden45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    My hope for season 6 will never die

    • @woavyy
      @woavyy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is it dead yet?

  • @demonteprice5870
    @demonteprice5870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    “This timeline is based on the original Teen Titans show and the Teen Titans Go! comics only"
    *cries in The Batman continuity*

    • @theSonicguy001
      @theSonicguy001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Demonte Price wait, what?

    • @demonteprice5870
      @demonteprice5870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@theSonicguy001 oh a couple people like to think that The Batman and Teen Titans share the same continuity because they had a lot of the same crew between the two shows (The Batmans Robin even look startlingly like he's a younger TT Robin) but again, it's only fan canon

    • @theSonicguy001
      @theSonicguy001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Demonte Price I see

  • @sosa2mars
    @sosa2mars 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    When I was a kid I used to think Teen Titans was a sequel to “The Batman”

    • @QuanBrown27
      @QuanBrown27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alpha Me too bro! 😂😂

    • @sebastiansmith1223
      @sebastiansmith1223 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What if it is???

    • @ingyball7053
      @ingyball7053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's ironic because if I remember correctly the reason why The Batman took so long to introduce Robin was because they didn't want to have him on while Teen Titans was still going.

    • @ReligiousPrime
      @ReligiousPrime 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suppose it could be in theory. Though there are a few small costume changes. 1) The Batman: Robin's cape was slit up the middle to resemble bird wings better; Teen Titans: Robin's cape is a solid piece. 2) The Batman: Robin's R was black inside yellow; Teen Titans: the R is yellow inside black (I personally like the black in yellow look better. 3) The Batman: the bottom half of Robin's suit was all green with shoes: Teen Titans: the bottom half is mostly green with black and silver boots.
      I know those are technically minor things, but if Teen Titans actually was a sequel to The Batman, the looks/designs should've stayed the same.
      That's like when Batgirl becomes Batman's official 'in the loop' partner in The Batman, he gives her everything he has, even the belt. And in the very next episode, the belt is right back to the original look.
      I know the shows are primarily made for kids entertainment, and that bit was so short and quick, but I think even some kids would notice that basic lack of continuity.

    • @l_rob420
      @l_rob420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were done by the same guy, and it would make sense

  • @iceboi2142
    @iceboi2142 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    haven’t even see video yet, just paused ad, instant like for OG Teen Titans

  • @snapclub8751
    @snapclub8751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I feel like the best season finale of TT would involve the team teaming up with members of the Justice League each episode. Then in the finale, The Teen Titans and the Justice League join forces to take down a powerful threat and Cyborg decides to leave the team and join the Justice League.

    • @breonawarren1507
      @breonawarren1507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’d say they just grow up. Robin becomes Nightwing, Cyborg joins Justice league, and Starfire, Raven, and Beastboy recruit new younger heroes & start all over.

  • @Mehk
    @Mehk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Thank you for this! I was looking for a timeline to help me write fanfics. This is the only one that’s totally complete. It even includes minor characters and the characters from thousands of years ago.

  • @Arthur_Draneel1865
    @Arthur_Draneel1865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Red X is almost like Batman’s Zur-an-Er

  • @YusukeKnight
    @YusukeKnight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Loved teen titans as a kid used to watch it all the time I still love the show today!

  • @Lindsay-nx5sv
    @Lindsay-nx5sv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    In The old Teen Titans comics in the 80's, Robin was 18 when he formed the team, 19 when he became Nightwing and 20 when he learned Jason Todd, his replacement Robin was killed. Heck, Jason Todd Robin even replaced him on the Teen Titans for a short while.

    • @anonbabi7310
      @anonbabi7310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lindsay 1984 that’s the timeline on DC love action “Titans”

  • @rami8404
    @rami8404 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    They have 1 in common:
    They all have weird proffesioned parents

    • @rami8404
      @rami8404 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Weiss Kartoffel yeah your right😂😂😂

    • @elaroach
      @elaroach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Weiss Kartoffel It’s not weird. It’s just not common

  • @a.jthomas6132
    @a.jthomas6132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It’s hard to believe it has been 16 years since the "Things Change” finale of Teen Titans is aired and cut short way too soon after Trouble in Tokyo movie.
    While we can all accept that Terra wants to start a new life as a school girl and doesn’t want to be a hero anymore, we still have yet to know what Slade is plotting while the Titans are away battling the Brotherhood of Evil. Thus, a Starfire arc is never been made. Let alone explore more of Star's relationship with Blackfire, and their early history on their homeworld Tamaran.
    Also the minor character Jericho is the son of Slade (as seen in the comics). When we see his and Ravanger's connection to their father? Is Rose's characteristic is much similar of Karai of TMNT?
    But more importantly, when will this show be revived for season 6 or two more?
    Fans have grown restless and had been waiting for so long and all we get is the ongoing Teen Titians Go! Which displeases fans whom grown up with the original. Since we have see Samurai Jack been brought back, Warner Bros and DC Comics needs to consider it for this one!

  • @johnmichael2692
    @johnmichael2692 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    If they make a season 6 this is what I want in it
    1 finding out about Slade and stopping him
    2 red x true identity
    3 star fire storyline
    4 most importantly that they make raven and beast boy become a couple, clearly there voice actors think the same way too about it

    • @qcripplethesavage1019
      @qcripplethesavage1019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      johnmichael2692 Red X is Robin and they’ve said it in the show

    • @sourpuss5951
      @sourpuss5951 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@qcripplethesavage1019 lol what about when Red X went rogue? no illusions, Robin and Red X would be fighting each other in the same scenes

    • @jeanicevargas8031
      @jeanicevargas8031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@qcripplethesavage1019 no cause theres a whole episode where starfire says The same thing but robin was like ITS NOT ME! I SWEAR ! Cause some other dude stoled the stuit an then on another episode red x comes back and it clearly not robin an helps them fight an then dispears again an Robin still.has no idea who.it is an it ended at that :(

    • @JumugiDesunra
      @JumugiDesunra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It won't feel the same, now that Cyborg is officially in the Justice League. I would like to see a revitalization of Teen Titans, but I can't see it happening at all.

    • @konekotakashi414
      @konekotakashi414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeanicevargas8031 Everyone thought it was Jason Todd

  • @KendrickHarrisKenfinity
    @KendrickHarrisKenfinity 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This awesome to know how the ancient history of the world fits into the action, suspense and fun that the team goes into! Keep it up!

  • @sabsupsub
    @sabsupsub 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    this show was my whole childhood!!!

  • @karmew32
    @karmew32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    20:14 one of the most devastating fictional moments of my childhood.

  • @dylonhubbors2694
    @dylonhubbors2694 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Btw I was so happy when Robin & starfire kissed when I was younger I said yesssss

  • @TheElfinMudkip
    @TheElfinMudkip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    “Evil beware, we have waffles” - Raven

    • @celinac5449
      @celinac5449 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaron Walto iconic

  • @jamesmcdude2239
    @jamesmcdude2239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Me when she mentioned brushogun or what ever: *nervous sweating*

  • @justanawkwardnerd
    @justanawkwardnerd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I KNEW a lot of the TT background and lore, but having it laid out in such a way, including EVERYTHING like that is amazingly enlightening, and it's just a third of the way into the video.

  • @Redtail_hawk
    @Redtail_hawk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Nice ad slip in there, it’s like watching tv in the 50’s.

  • @phoneticjuliet_1017
    @phoneticjuliet_1017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember almost all of this from watching it as a kid, I loved when Slade was toying with Robin that whole time.

  • @Andrice954
    @Andrice954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Daddy Slade" I threw up in my mouth a bit lol

  • @sm0rses
    @sm0rses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Decided to go on a nostalgia run, and did not realize I actually watched pretty much the entire run of this series during my childhood. I actually remembered the episodes and stories of all the milestones..

  • @invinciblecarrot956
    @invinciblecarrot956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Oh my god actually the slickest ad transition I’ve ever seen

  • @JeMoeder123
    @JeMoeder123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fact that a lot of people in the fandom are actually younger then the series itself

  • @theblackphantomthief
    @theblackphantomthief 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My favorite episodes were when Robin was Slade's apprentice, The 3-part Trigun episode, and any of the episodes dealing with Terra.

  • @StrangerE0ns
    @StrangerE0ns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This show was the reason why Deathstroke is literally my favorite villain and possibly dc character ever

  • @NappaAbridged
    @NappaAbridged 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was the smooth segue into a sponsor I've ever seen.
    Jesus Christ.

  • @bandosavage4527
    @bandosavage4527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thank you!!!! that girl's cute narrative voice was a big plus too C:

  • @Kuro-zn7ph
    @Kuro-zn7ph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wasn't there originally a plan where they were going to continue with a Season 6 but decided to cancel? :( Such a shame. If the fandom is still active they might as well do it. So many platforms to watch on now, unlike before where it was limited to TV.

    • @sapphiresupernova
      @sapphiresupernova 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I think TTG to the Movies was supposed to be the setup for TTG vs TT and Tara Strong had teased that it would be a push for Season 6 if the interest is there. Maybe covid ruined it.

  • @anthonyminimum
    @anthonyminimum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    So the whole acronym for this academy is the “Hierarchy International Vengeance and Extermination Academy for Extraordinary Young People”

  • @badenboss842
    @badenboss842 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    In the move teen titans go is gonna win cause Cartoon network keeps the shows we hate and cancel the shows we love
    like if u agree

  • @TheKittyDoggo
    @TheKittyDoggo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was a smooth transition to the sponsorship

  • @adamgoncalves1591
    @adamgoncalves1591 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hard to believe that Teen Titans is celebrating its 20th anniversary this year.

  • @patfrerking
    @patfrerking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is such a shame this version was so short lived and TTG has been on the air so long. I couldn't make myself like it. A big part of what made me like the original TT so much was it's dark tone. And the new version is it's polar opposite. I guess it is ment for children. But the original TT still has an actively large fan base. I think it make good money if it came back. The original viewers are grown now. And adults have their own money. We would support it if it came back. In fact I would donate my own money just to help bring it back. I'm sure a lot of other people would too. We should do something about it. Or at least tell Netflix to help us out.

  • @seplays2280
    @seplays2280 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    That ad halfway through her sentence was really annoying

    • @WickedPhase
      @WickedPhase 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ikr I was really confused the ad started

  • @veryshyguy5722
    @veryshyguy5722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still remember the dark day when the very first Teen Titans Go episode premiered...dark, dark day indeed.

  • @horsebox5138
    @horsebox5138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    14:20
    AMOG US

  • @aralouie1348
    @aralouie1348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ChannelFrederator:
    *Mentions BNHA*
    Me:
    *UNHOLY SCREAMING*

  • @rudolqh
    @rudolqh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    By the end of the 5 seasons, Robin’s actually the perfect age to become Nightwing. Cyborg likely joins the Justice League around the same time.

  • @Gsgirl1
    @Gsgirl1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Starfire was a little brother? that would be a nice storyline to in season 6 (if it happens)

  • @JacobFoust
    @JacobFoust 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Teen Titans Go is not canon!

  • @JMS_Hunter
    @JMS_Hunter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This show was so good.

  • @sr.skulletongrin8755
    @sr.skulletongrin8755 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk what was better, that Raven/Cyborg ending or the hilariously seamless word from our sponsors, hahaha!

  • @angellowy
    @angellowy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kinda wanna cry for the show cuz it was my childhood. One of the shows during Cartoon Network's best years, imo. Also one of those that improved my English a lot (I am ESL). Didn't understand it as a kid though, but appreciated it more once I matured and learnt good lessons from it, like the Starfire racism episode, Terra's never too late, Cyborg's giving it your all despite being at a 'messed up', opening up to others from Robin and Raven's arcs, and many other. Such an awesome show

  • @joliotalu3091
    @joliotalu3091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wowwwww i really wish the teen titans come back

  • @Davi-ph5ib
    @Davi-ph5ib 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really wish Warner bros brings back teen titans og

  • @ashleighstratmann7783
    @ashleighstratmann7783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My nephew watches Teen Titans Go so I seen many of the episodes and I have watched the Teen Titans before it, and I prefer Teen Ttans over Teen Titans Go

  • @DESTRAKON
    @DESTRAKON 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Her voice is so chill, love it

  • @Chyguy
    @Chyguy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how the crunchyroll ad implies that I, like Slade, will be fighting superpowered teenagers
    I have never felt so included before.

  • @joeleboeuf
    @joeleboeuf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I honestly find Terra's life to be quite similar to Elsa's, they both have powers, they were both afraid of their own powers and ran away from home, and they both came from royalty. Anybody else see the similarities?