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"I was surprised that it was pink underneath"
Bro- what?
I know, I saw that part and was like??????? The fuck??????????
@@redcitadel9123 wait what does that mean?
@@cya.6616 She assumed being dark skinned would make injuries look different
Literally a lady not trying to be racist while simultaneously being so backward
I watched that live and let me tell you...the number of people who didn’t talk about it at all or even realise that it was an issue was absurd holy shit.
“We’re the most tolerant, lovely country in Europe”
I’d invite you to look at any BBC comment section that reports on immigrants
And why are a lot of native citizens opposed to immigration? Have you ever bothered to ask that question or do you immediately jump to "Racism!, Racism!" . Very simplistic thought process.
@@maddiejames6222 not only racism, but there's also xenophobia as well
I am an arab and a legal migrant to the UK, and it is unfair and illegal for immigrants to come without papers, and it is unrealistic and dangerous to take too many migrants in at once. Stop mixing people who want to prioritize their people (no matter the race) vs real racists who dont like ppl just because of their skin colour.
I work (but don't live) in an one of the most deprived areas of England. Where do you think those immigrants end up? They end up in the gutters of this country. The locals who've spent generations barely scraping by and all of a sudden here come another wave of people who unintentionally change their communities RAPIDLY. In a flash, entire streets or areas of a city have groups of people with their own languages, customs and historical grievances. Usually they got on fairly well but you can' be surprised that not everyone is as happy as you. These people aren't getting their emergency housing on Nob Hill or the Cotswolds.
Given that the BBC filters out extreme opinions as a matter of policy I have an uneasy feeling you dismiss perfectly reasonable, well articulated concerns about mass immigration as mere _racism_ .
Hope I’m wrong. ;)
"We're the least racist country" sounds a lot like "Our cereal has the least amount of rat droppings."
Literally
It means that the country is virtue signaling hard but still wants to keep its traditional ethnic identity.
If you think humans are not tribal and instead care about complete abstractions like "humanity" then you are either spectacularily naive, or a leftist.
@@themonologue3689
It doesn't, but this wasn't my argument.
@@gallanonim3328 Welp, how about ya go with your family to the mountains and go become a proper tribe then? Cause what the fuck do you have in common with jimmy down street? Same skin color? That's really not enough to be part of the same tribe, same values? Pretty high chance that's a miss, isn't your idea of tribalism way more naive (stupid) then? Cause last time I checked white people have always historically killed each other in the UK, not the same tribe at all, humans can believe in things better than what you believe.
@@agentc7020
Nice strawman.
"The least racist country is still racist"
That's pretty funny especially after Trump said in the debate yesterday that he was the least racist person in the room
I don't think any country anywhere will ever be able to completely get rid of racism until every human being in the world is exactly the same.
@Mark Broadhurstdebatable
@@indigophanta8288 And we will all never be the same, even if all races came together into one amalgamation, people would find minor things to be dickheads about, oh you have straight hair and you have curly hair? well that means that you're not as good as me. Sounds fucken stupid but thats what racism is, plain stupid.
@@buildinasentry1046 probably
@Mark Broadhurst Well this video is a pretty good explanation, funnily enough. the English don't like the Irish, these people are both white yet the Irish get put in this box as if they're not as good as the English
As a black Brit, all you have to say is "what did you mean by that? " and all of a sudden there's a lot of wobbling and shrieking and "are you trying to call me a racist?". No I just asked you what you meant by that... Why is your reaction like that love?....interesting.
Edit: I forgot about this comment until I got a notification that someone liked and LMAO I have to say the comments are amazing like I expected but still a tad bit disappointing, can't lie. A lot of projection and self victimisation which is the literal point of the comment in the first place LOOOOL can't make it up. I thought my comment would at least open up some reflection and critical discussion.
To the people saying that I am intimidating white people by saying that, the whole reason I say it is to open up the floor so that they can explain what how they feel rather than jumping to conclusions about everyone since I am in a country that is overwhelming white (intimidating the overwhelming majority you know....)? If I thought everyone was a immediate racist threat, I couldn't do anything!! I'd be mentally exhausted.
Too I thought in western culture free speech was seen a positive anyway? I'm confused? I'm giving you a chance to speak your truth!
For example, I'll give a scenerio since people seriously can't be creative lol, if I wear my hair in its afro and someone says to me "oh wow your hair I could never wear it like that." When I ask "what do you mean?" so I can 1) just ask out of curiosity and 2) gage what type of person I am dealing with and not automatically cast them as a racist since people can have the tendency to be (ironic this whole thing isn't it 😂). Someone with pure intentions could go "well because my hair is straight duh" and I would go oh yeah duh and laugh and give them tips on good curlers when they decide they want curly hair too. Or they could turn around and be like "it's just so big and crazy, I wouldn't be brave enough to go out because everyone would look at me" (yes this has happened). That's not a fucking compliment. That's rude as fuck even if you didn't mean it to be. I could tell them that. Another angle is if you didn't have good intentions from the start, then you wouldn't try to flip it back and me and say " uuuh you call me racist?". You would just state what you thought in your oblivion and deal with the consequences. Believe it or not, not all black people are savages ready to rip your throat out, some of us like to talk. That's an issue you guys have to work through. Just a note.
The issue or apprehension that occurs is from when people trying to tell white people what is racist consistenly in the past (and HELL, look here, the PRESENT) , there is usually some pushback, rarely really taken as an opportunity for cultural exchange but I don't expect anything more since cultural exchange in the British language for centuries usually meant overtaking said place. So it comes across as you lot wanting to stand fast in your ignorance which translate to you fucking meant what you said 😂.
Then from there, I know that I do not like being around you because it clear you have a negative perception of what makes me me and I can avoid you. Simples. I'm not a teacher. I don't have to teach people anything especially when there are so many resources online, on TV, in books etc. Life is too short to be spending my waking hours trying to correct people consistently when I could spend it eating, working, talking to people I actually like etc.
Also to the people saying I'm not a Brit, that's okay with me LOL I'm not trying to claim this place as my birth right, I mean look at the state of it. The reason why I'm here is because my white British great grandad was a high ranking solider and after w2, he was stationed to oversee bases in Belize and brought my amazingly beautiful great gran back here because she was that hot. I'm planning to leave so don't worry 😂 you can have this cesspool where people debating whether to help hungry kids in one of the richest countries in the world is the norm. But in the meantime I'm going to work, save up and pay my taxes to this black abyss the same as you lot. Wish me luck on my journey to freedom✌🏾
EDIT AGAIN: I've responded back to some of you and as much as there are some people that have points, some people are just bored and want to argue. Completely overlookng what I said or even rehashing what was said in this damn comment. I'm muting. ADIOS PEOPLE.
This is a really great tool used in these sorts of arguments. Never play defence. Don't respond to their questions, don't respond to their positions. Lay down a solid base (optional) and always make sure your response is asking for a response in turn. Never give them time to rest.
and you have a chip on your shoulder if your knowledgeable Asian and cocky.
oh there was time a few years ago where black and Asians we're refured to as being English if we were born in the U.K goodness gracious me. !?words are weaved like spells to bamboozle the ignorant sheep who think inteligence is something that only James bond posseses for Queen and country.
Some would now say “ oh the race card again “ why won’t I bring it up when you are being racsist ? Should I not bring the race card when you are being a racist ? No sugar coating it , let call you what you are
It bemuses me why people don’t just own the fact they have prejudices,oh yeah then they would expose their stupidity
I don't think enough people have seen the Jane Elliot experiment in the UK. I remember how painfully irritating the whole thing was, with the subjects constantly not following the basic instructions necessary to get the ball rolling.
@Grimnir bwahahahaha
Grimnir why would it make people feel guilty to understand the experiences of minorities?
@Grimnir ...oh yeah, that's why the brown eyes-blue eyes experiment has always been so well received.. because it's inaccurate.. Lol.
@Grimnir "I’m doing the exercise and giving lectures about its effects all over the U.S. and in several locations overseas... Over the last 18 years I’ve given lectures in Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, Northern Ireland, and *Saudi Arabia* to name those I can remember."
www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/an-unfinished-crusade-an-interview-with-jane-elliott/
This legitimately wasn't even difficult to find. She doesn't do this in exclusively white countries.
But yeah, it's allll just white guilt. Nobody eeeeever does racial sensitivity training in non-white countries. It's tooootally just aaaaall a ploy to make those poor, post-settler, post-colonial white people feel bad about all the discrimination they actively participate in. Poor, poor, oppressed white people.
On a side note: "I don't see non-white countries being told racism is bad" is literally a stem from neo-nazi talking points. A whataboutism designed to call discussions about ongoing racism into question despite the fact racism *is* criticised and protested in other countries, just that white racism has the biggest global effect. Be more careful with the content you're taking in, because it's worrying to see how blatantly far right in nature it is.
Grimnir
Here comes the fasci... uhhh... I mean “classical liberal” saying empathetic education means “socialism” probably as a whistle insult.
Sweetheart, you wouldn’t be able to explain what socialism is even if I would give you the definition.
By the way... it’s funny that you nitpicked the one paragraph from the whole article without giving any attention to the context created by the whole text.
Imagine looking at the 10 commandments and nitpicking “do not lie” from them as an excuse to go tell children that Santa isn’t real and their parents are untrustworthy liars... lmao.
Yeah, technically, if you want to twist it, it is “white guilt”. But should you just say “sorry” to a photo of MLK every morning to alleviate the symptoms of white guilt ? Because I’m pretty sure that those lessons don’t just tell you to feel guilty - they teach you to be A RESPONSIBLE ADULT that (instead of acting like a child that stole the cookies) would rather act like someone who understands the problems and divides in our society and tries to actually fix them through various methods like direct activism, at least if possible... but always keeping in mind to not trust crooked politicians telling you “immigrants bad” because ~insert bullshit reason here~.
... I swear, adults are sometimes just entitled children with a paper thin skin that act like karen princesses. It is not unreasonable to imagine these days a situation when a doctor tells someone that their health isn’t perfect only for that person to angrily leave the office only after imputatively coercing the doctor into vocalising a clear apology. 🤣
The man doing a Nazi salute while the guy on stage says the UK is the least racist country in Europe is such a perfect encapsulation of the UK.
Well as a white guy, you gotta be real careful how you raise your hand, because that looked bad.
Good luck backing yourself up there.
As a Polish guy, I am extremely aware of racism in the UK, especially after Brexit. I can't believe how blind some people are to this.
Don't let it get you down. Nearly half of the UK voted against Brexit (I did) and if opinion polls are to be believed, well over half of the UK now think that we should not have voted Brexit. There are many people in the UK that, like me, find racist and xenophobic Brits embaressing and repulsive.
The Poles are still more racist than the Russians.
Keep an eye on the hands. Keep an eye on the hands.
See?
Zdajesz sobie tez sprawe z sytuacja lgbt w polsce?
Have also seen discrimination by Polish people of certain people from certain parts of this country. I know which is more obnoxious
@@TB-dz8lm You should stick with the plan of using false polling data and calling everyone racist worked last time
By far and away the most frustrating thing about the BLM protests in the UK earlier this year wasn't the people screaming racist slogans and calling black people criminals. It was the people who seemed to take it as a personal insult that we would even suggest that there might be any problems regarding race in the UK. Relatives honest to god said to me "how dare you suggest that we are a racist country, we do so much for blacks!" and that's the issue, people genuinely don't think the UK is racist, either individually or structurally. Racism here is nowhere near as visceral as in other parts of the world, which in many ways makes it harder to fight.
This 100%. The natural instinct of so many people who are uninformed on issues of structural/systemic racism has been to vehemently reject the very notion of that existing, instead of listening and trying to understand. It seems far easier to just bury the head in the sand and dismiss any suggestion of a chronic problem in British society
They know their country is racist. It doesn't mean they have to believe it. They have no reason to. (Besides empathy). If their country is racist, doesn't that mean they're complicit in racism and that they have been bystanders enabling racism? That is their best outlook if they admit the UK is racist, so why would they?
It’s become so subtle, that it’s racial micro aggressions
Ive found a similar thing in australia, a lot of people dont see why blm came here, even with the horrible deaths in custody
This is a load of nonsense.
I know it's a minor point, but I've never heard Laurence Fox sing, and...he clearly did not get a record contract on merit.
I can't believe that trash got airtime.
I think I could make a more appealing single by drunkenly dribbling "theres a hole in my bucket" into a microphone
He's got a record contract? I'm amazed
Never heard of him before that incident on Question Time and I never bothered to look up his stuff, for obvious reasons. But in the days after the debacle, I remember an article quoting him as saying he doesn't get roles and deals because of anti whiteness, but turns out he's just shit
@@thepodium6930 He was married to Billie Piper. They split up about a year or two before this clip. I can't imagine why.
"N Word vs Cracker" is the funniest news headline I've seen from CNN. Hits like The Onion honestly XD
I think I saw that segment they did when it came out - one of them pointed out, "the more offensive one is the one you aren't willing to write in the title" and that shut up some of the whiners pretty quick.
How could you say the c word
@Adam Riddle I'm guessing this is a joke
@Adam Riddle Lemme guess, "eliminate the brown people before they replace us"? You're kind of a loser if you believe this, Adam. No one's coming out to commit mayocide bc race supremacy is bad. If you can't accept racial equality, you're okay with race supremacy if it's "your kind", and that's just pathetic.
hey im asian and im not exactly sure the meaning of "cracker" or how much offensive is that can someone explain to me?
The racism here is very implicit and subtle which make it worse due to it being so deep rooted but idk 🤷🏾♀️
@Ay Tone British colonizers weren't exactly welcome in Africa either. I think this video is kind of a circlejerk, but let's not sow unnecessary hatred.
@Ay Tone Same here.
No people should be asked to share their homeland until it becomes unrecognizable.
@@twoplustwo5183 Tf?! Are u really tryna compare British colonisers to modern day immigrants?
@@adjjal I have absolutely no idea what the context of my comment was, because it was 9 months ago and the guy apparently deleted his comments. But no, I probably did not compare colonizers to immigrants.
god that clip of the blue eye experiment in the UK was one of the most painful things i've had to watch. i hate it here lmao they sound exactly like my parents
Yeah, i had a little break after
Dont hate your country , improve your country
@@michaellewis9465 the two are not opposites
@@michaellewis9465 the way to fix a problem is to acknowledge its there
exactly! I had a bit of stint that "oh in mainland europe its all better" but its not, and it won't be if you have that mindset. Fix what you have here, appricate what we have achived here but still fight for the things were lacking. I also would proclaim this for everyone not just us anglos.
He...he didn't know Sikhs fought in the first world war? What
They don't teach it in English history classes, because then they would have to talk about the segregation that the UK also had going on at the time. Its all about astroturfing the bad to make the UK look good.
it's so humiliating lmaoooooo 😭😭😭😭😭
Excuse me? We do teach that, we understand Indian soldiers were a crucial part of the war effort. You cannot say they were given no recognition, we literally held a separate victory parade for them because there were so many who needed to be congratulated. There at least 3 different monuments to them in London. Shut up you do not know your facts
Love it. £42,000 a year education and he comes out of Harrow - the other top school for the rich elites - deeply ignorant about his own country's history. Typical Britain.
@@ieatmice751 Perhaps you should take your own advice. By his status and education, Laurence Fox is supposed to be the brightest and best of you. And the fact that you had a separate victory parade for the non-White veterans isn't a positive.
From an EU perspective, British exceptionalism is one of the most off putting parts of the country.
From a pro EU perspective in the UK, same but what do I know? I'm brown
from every perspective...
"Britian is the least racist county in Europe!" But are you the least racist person in Britain?
Logically that would be impossible if you are tolerating racist experiments
A very interesting thing I have noticed in Scotland recently is the denial of our role in the Empire. Scottish Nationalism seems to forget that modern Glasgow was built on the slave trade and decides to blame it on the English rather than accept its own countries dark past. Nationalism is a strange thing.
Aye, we tend to view ourselves as England's first colony rather than a contributor and major part of the British empire. The Indians called Scottish regiments "devil's in skirts" and our part in the empire wasn't small. Still feel our country has grown out of the ideas of empire and British exceptionalism better than our southern neighbours but it's easy to see my view of Scotland is coloured by where I am and who I know and Scotland is not a hegemony. So many cross currents in the culture it's hard to say even what a Scottish person is. I would like to see our history be less of a black and white, aggressive England and victimised Scotland and a more accurate and detailed account of the brutality of our pre-empire history that could also include our role in the colonisation of most of the known world as a willing partner rather than as an unwilling state forced into it against our will. Then again it's always been the rich who prospered from this north and south of the border. It's a mess basically lol
It is interesting that you assert that this relates specifically to Scottish Nationalism, whereas I have found it to be unrelated to people in Scotland's position on the UK. It rather sounds like pointing the finger, so that one doesn't need to consider ones own position. Now that would be rather an ironic comment, given that this is the thrust of the video above.
@@angelaslittlebit He did not say that
@cammy Smith FS, I'm Glaswegian and didn't know that. Cheers for the heads up, will have to read up on it.
You putting your liberalized views on the past is already flawed, but the best thing is, there is nothing wrong with imperialism.
I bet you don't even know what nationalism means, but it's absolutely good, especially without the stupid leftist ideas of "nationalism".
Ah yeah... "We're the least racist country in the world" ... I've heard that from my fellow frenchmen as well. It's always easier to spot the racism of others I guess.
I've heard it from my fellow white aussies too. "It's always easier to spot the racism of others" seems pretty accurate.
I like to respond 'then youre part of the reason it's least and not not' or something similar
@@xxx.118 "Being illegal helps it be less racist." In what way?
@@PlannedObsolescence I wouldn't bother with her comments. I've seen her comment similar things under several comment threads suggesting Britain has a very small racism problem because it's illegal. Doesn't seem to get how racist attitudes continue throughout enforcement and judgement of those laws. Or that other laws can be racist in their creation and intent - i.e. drug possession laws.
@@cameronmclennan942 Also, apparently anglosphere people don't realise that racism being illegal is, um, pretty normal. UK is hardly an outlier here. USA is.
I’m mixed-race African/Scottish in the UK and so I get the fun of getting racism directed to black people, racism towards Jamaica’s (I’m in no way Jamaican but people think my braids are dreads and I’m a Rastafarian), racism towards south Asians and Muslims and racism from other black peoples thank think I’m a snake in the grass and act to white.
I’ve had the police ade in covering up a hate crime towards me and when I was a witness to another crime the cop wouldn’t accept mixed race or other as an option on the witness form kept insisting I was Asian before writing Afro-Caribbean.
I’ve experienced racism since the moment I joined primary and yet it’s never the racism that truly hurts me it’s the people in authority and “not racists” that turn a blind eye and don’t have your back or admit what they whitnessed because it might make there life harder or they went along with the racist just long enough they don’t want to also get in trouble.
im sorry for what youve been through :( im also mixed race and english and have went through the same thing.
the best thing that happened to me was realising the difference between race and ethnicity and embracing the fact im actually (racially) black and befriending more black people. racism is very intimidating to face alone but having a group of others alongside you always makes it less daunting. don’t be afraid to do whatever it takes to deal w racist bs; we ended up reporting our school to ofsted to get them to do something about the racism lol. also just existing in black spaces online and offline has made me feel so much better about things; interacting, sharing, listening, educating each other is so invigorating!! i suggest you do the same just to see where that takes you. good luck :)
I think youve perfectly illustrated the problem of race, is the ridiculous notion of race itself being used to describe people. ergo black white being a race in the first place it isnt.
im mixed and i dont think i ever experianced racism here in britain tbh even in white majority places so idk
if i have then im really desensitised to it
From what I can tell you have not experienced racism in a classroom or the workplace or a legal setting. You have only experienced racism through arguments in public. If I traveled to A distance country where I'm the minority I would expect the same thing
@@QuandaleDingle-ji2tjit’s a good thing your experiences represent everyone who’s mixed race in Britain
The drama between all these european countries is wild.
Yep, and yall think its about race. Its not, its about my people, whoever that means to anyone.
Europe and the middle east has been in permanent war (not woth each other) for as long as we have records, at least 5000 years.
Same with Africa, americas and asia. city states and tribes hacking and slashing their way through history.
If they were raping and pilaging, they were sacrificing and crucifiying, hanging and beheading.
In the last 75 years we have managed to bring something like peace to some parts of the world. Possibly at the cost of keeping the war elsewhere and turning a blind eye to the madness abroad.
It might be worth considering the previous 4975 years of barbarity we might have to go through if our systems fail.
And just incase you think its hyberbole, have a listen to what Erdogon has been saying recently.
@@GDKLockout given the fact that we live in the here and now it is currently about race. We can talk about what life was like thousands of years ago but we are in 2020 right now so let's talk about 2020. Non-white people are not the leading cause of the average white persons suffrage either in the UK or the USA. The Average White citizen in either parts of this world is suffering because of the actions and behaviors of the ruling class, oftentimes those to lean more to the right.
@@13579hee everyone suffers under the ruling class. Every group is preferential to their own, be it a family, sports team, fans of an artist, political leaning etc.
Nepotism is built in to the system, not recently, its always been that way. House of Lords is unashamedly exactly that.
I have zero chance of becoming a lord irrespective of my skin colour, my ancestry is Irish, plenty to co.plain about there too.
But in todays English speaking world. The colour of your skin matters less than a whole bunch of other things. Your chances of a life filled with opportunity depends mostly on the wealth of your parents, having two parents, if they teach you about money and care about education. And more important than that is your genetically determined personality. If you are highly neurotic, life is hard.
There has never been a better time to be alive for anyone in the west, no matter what your colour. Every opportunity is there, and poor white kids with shit parents have it just as bad. Your skin colour really doesnt count.
@@GDKLockout in your effort to discredit the importance of race in the west you literally contradicted yourself. In one breath you talk about how "poor white people have it bad too" which is almost your way of oversimplifying the struggles that black people have by saying "well some poor white people exist too you know" and on the other hand you talk about how this is a great time to be in the west because "everyone has opportunity"... Which one is it........are ALL people disenfranchised by the ruling class because they arent rich or does everyone have the opportunity to achieve unmeasurable success because the west is so great?
The empirical evidence suggested racism is a hindrance in the life of black people across all socioeconomic status. In a country like the United States of America black people's lack of success / wealth is baked into the history here by way of policies created in this country. You cannot tell me I have the exact same opportunities as a white American when I was born into a different set of circumstances that has governed not only my life but my grandparents life.
I was born into a community that made virtually no wealth earned during the 246 years of enslavement ...... I was born into a community that experienced 99 years of separate and unequal race-based policies like Black Codes, redlining, sharecropping, convict Leasing, forced removal off lands, denial of Education, etc AFTER the ending of Enslavement........ I am a member of a community where its citizens only gained full citizenship rights & equal protection under the law in America in the year 1964. Where many white Americans have inherited wealth, opportunity, access to better education by way of their zip code, neighborhoods and healthier communities with less pollution........... I have not.
People love to talk about the amazing amount of equality that exists across the board in America in many other Western Nations but conveniently ignore the centuries of fighting oppression that lead to changes being made that have created set "equality". Most of those changes having been enacted only 55 years ago.
What does it matter that schools can no longer deny me access because of the color of my skin if I don't have the money to attend said School? What does it matter if a bank can no longer deny me a loan on the premise of my skin color if said Bank denies me said loan because of their assumption that I am too poor to pay it back ( their classic assumption about my socioeconomic status is sadly based on the reality of people in my community having a lowered economic stemming for policies that stopped us from creating wealth.)
@@13579hee
There is no better place and time to be alive for anyone of any colour.
Thats not saying its perfect, thats saying its the best so far. If you think otherwise please do say where you think its better?
All the tangeble problems you describe are not because of skin colour, they are because of weath, i too am from a poor background of maligned and enslaved people despite my white skin. I had to move from my home council estate (british ghetto) just so i had a postcode (zip) that would allow me to apply for better work etc.
Both my parents left school at 12 and didnt really improve their position. They just woeked in factories and drank at weekends. I left school at 16 and they werent bothered at all.
I met people who started out poor and made soemthing of themselfs. People of every colour.
So when i decided that my kids would get a proper education and I wanted to own my own house, all the doors opened because i wanted to work for it.
Complaining that you had a bad start because your parents werent rich, and thats because they are black, is a cop out. Excuses. There is tones of opportunity for you.
Sorry if you have shit parents, i feel your pain as i sit here waiting for my drunk mother to finish her shopping because she wont stay sober long enough to drive to the shops.
It isnt a case of "poor white people too", its a a case of poor people all suffer. Being black or white has nothing to do with it.
My year 2 teacher did a similar thing as the blue eyed brown eyed thing but it only lasted an hour and was just moving where ppl are sitting in class & her ignoring any brown eyed kid, it stopped pretty quickly after i pointed out this was just how she treated us additional needs kids everyday lmao
did she change after that? did she start treating children who needed additional help and needs with the same respect as children who needed no such help?
@@MackenziiRivers no lol i ended up having all my lessons except for maths in the hallway outside with the TA then at the end of the year i had a mental breakdown due to feeling isolated because i had never met anyone else with ADHD & ASD , (the other kids in class had downs) & then i ended up getting on a scholarship for 2 years at a school for autistic and dyslexic kids that had been kicked out of mainstream, that school was pretty based they were going for a much more democratic style of organisation otherwise the kids wouldn't listen ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ
Apparently my county is rated highest in the country for additional needs education in mainstream schools so i dread to think what the rest of the county is like OMEGALUL
@@iron-mage Hello my adhd comrade
@@AbstractTraitorHero ADHD Comrades unite.
MURDER YOUR OPINION sounds like a bad 2000' emo band I would totally listen to
Rage Against The Machine's new single?
People generally don’t like to see themselves as racist. Having spent most of my life in Ireland I recently took my unemployed long Irish prognathous jaw to Finland and inserted myself into the immigration system.
You soon realise that you’ve actually been living in a racial hierarchy your entire life but you’re just one rung lower than you were before and that difference transforms your life experience.
Although those at the top who will defend to the hilt the theory that because of equality law such a perceived hierarchy doesn’t exist, they’ll find any reason to discriminate a black African over a Russian or a white South American over an Iraqi.
The saddest part was realising that those on other levels of this hierarchy, no matter how skilled (they spoke the language much better than I did), no matter what their qualifications, decency or dedication, will never get the same advantages as I have simply through accident of birth.
The same system exists in the UK and Ireland but because I’ve always been at the top I’ve never had to face that someone born to parents of a different background will always have a more difficult life than me.
It's a massive problem that people approach these sort of issues because their starting point is that they're the good person.
The believe that they're "not racist" or "not sexist" and therefore can't be wrong about these issues.
They're actively trying to make it more like a personal attack because that means they don't even have to start to think about the actual subject that's up for discussion.
"The least racist country in Europe" is a bar so low, you'd snap your spine trying to limbo it.
Europe is objectively the least racist continent. Just saying.
@@jo9932 then just try reversing it. Let's forgo all of our national and private rights in other countries all together and see who is worse off :)
Teacher didn’t know people are pink under our skin
That means only that she didn't know, it doesn't make her a racist, or a bad person.
@@upthesock1 uh... nope. Why would she think a Black person isn't human underneath skin? She's def seen white people with varying tones or tans, she's old - ignorance to Black humanity isn't something to brush off- this is why so many Black folks in healthcare suffer - hospital staff don't "think they feel as much pain" and other b.s
@@sarah2172 at no point did she say that black people weren't human, you've just made that up.
As for doctor thinking that black people feel less pain, I've never heard that, I'll just have to take you at your word.
@@sarah2172 She just said she didn't know what colour it would be under the skin, it's really idiotic but she didn't say "not human" she was clearly saying it's the first time she saw under a black person's skin and she was just surprised that it was pink, she thought it might be a different colour. that's... extremely dumb but it's not racist lol, it's just sheer ignorance
Just the way she didn't even hesitate to say those words, on TV, tells you a lot
"To me it's not offensive to you" is such a brilliant encapsulation of so much of what's maddening about this discourse.
While I'm absolutely not comparing it to the racism faced by POC in this country whatsoever, I can somewhat testify with my own personal experience of pro-english sentiment as a Welshman living in England.
I moved to Birmingham a few years back for study and am still living here. And there's been several occasions where Ive been called out and disrespected for being Welsh by exclusively white southerners. I grew up deep in the valleys so my accent is pretty thick.
I regularly get called the usual sheep shagger or taff or that I'm a dumb country boy. But on a few occasions I've been told to go back to my own country and once somebody spat on me because of it.
It's also the day to day things that bother me, even friends will take the piss out of phrases and slang I use, and seem to expect me to understand all of their English culture and slang, without understanding ours.
Just a little personal experience of you're interested. And great video by the way !
Thanks for sharing. Similar story here im Spain between regions. There will always be an "us" vs "them", sadly. It is atavistic.
I really don't get the anti Welsh and Scottish sentiment in england. Like who actually is sad enough to hate th welsh or scots. Get a fucking life
As a Brit I think this is great video. It really succinctly articulates things I've experienced growing up here.
It I glad you talk about how Enoch Powell galvanized public hatred against the very South Asian doctors and nurses he begged to come over here to staff the NHS. My mother in s one if those people and the violence we both experienced throughout the 80's is rooted right there.
Really? I did not know Powell had at first welcomed migrant workers...
@@soicosoirav9174 He went to commonwealth countries to get people to come to the UK
I think there’s an important issue with how Britain isn’t a cultural melting pot at all. Different communities have been introduced and dumped into specific areas around the UK. I think this has manifested into cultures locking horns because of weak integration that hasn’t naturally occurred over decades. This definitely hasn’t helped with the under the rug racism
@bye girl who said ‘Pali’ bashing would help? The people from said communities aren’t to blame, it’s the fault of disorganised immigration legislation which was most likely racist in the first place. Thus, resulting in isolated communities and lack of integration between communities. It’s not looking for a scapegoat it’s quite clearly a factor in cultural divide which helps fuel racism.
@bye girl yeah I agree that is a problem that definitely that exists. But it’s naive to think that those feelings of hatred exist in one direction. I think it’s a general problem that has been ignored and has manifested into something ugly and elusive. As grim as things seem, I want to be optimistic about the future of the UK and it’s citizens.
@bye girl Religious zealotry and racially targeted rape of children "grooming gang's" don't seem to help either.
But not everyone is racist in england i grew up with people from poland, pakistan, france, india
The points he made our very valid "new to this guy and great video" i agree with alot theres a problem with the left and the right in england where they cant sit down and chat ...... Its kinda pathetic to me
I know i have freinds who are left leaning and right leaning luckily they are friends and understand i like to talk about stuff like this so i can learn more information on it ... Which again seems like the sane thing to do
I dont think theirs enough talking so alot of people have this mindset of "oh everyones racist" or "oh immigrants of this and that"
Its silly on both sides to me
And n my opinion thats how hate on both sides of the racism argument rise
.... I hope some of what i think make sense and dont seem rude
@@levibull6063 no I completely agree, there isn’t enough discussion. Social media especially seems to further separate the two ends of the political spectrum.
I'm from Estonia and here right-wing people are convinced we are the epitome of white :D A mere 150 years ago we were officially scientifically considered Asian. That was the basis to justify German and Russian colonialism here. Now they go around yelling something about "our" western christian heritage :D All the while being discriminated against as eastern europeans as soon as they travel to Germany, France, Scandinavia or UK :D And if you dare to tell them they're eastern european, they might turn violent, because obviously we are eNtiReLy sCanDiNaViAn lolol.
@@MadJackChurchill1312 fr? how'd you learn ab this?
I lived in Finland for a while and even they discriminated against Estonians and wouldn’t class them as “Nordic”. They treated them the same as Russians. As a British person myself I was viewed with suspicion, but as an equal - in private some Finns said things to me like “it’s a shame about all the Muslims in your country” or “you have so many Eastern Europeans, we don’t want that here” as if they thought I would share the same feelings. I was too polite to really talk about it back then, LonerBox is right about UK politeness lol. Each country has their own hierarchy of who they discriminate against!
@@Maria7Maria Finland DID get voted the most racist country in Europe back in 2018
There’s a weird LARPy mindset amongst these people that they were all Vikings
Like bro your ancestors were, at most, just alive during that time, your ancestry isn’t special
@samia elmi yeah... Theres some nice nature, decent welfare state, and a lot of foreigners seem intrigued by the language as well as the culture, there could be more but thats all I can think of off the top of my head. But a lot of things and people are very backwards here.
Honestly the way I was taught about racism in sociology was that it’s also linked to class - which also helps explain the difference in racism experienced by different people. If you’re working class it compounds your other issues, similar to race compounding other issues - while this explanation is really simplified, it acknowledges the history of Britain classism. Immigrants were often trapped in the working class due to rich people not wanting to hire them in higher paying jobs which would allow them to reach middle class status. As the Industrial Age wound down and it became less obvious to separate working class people and other classes, both issues came to seem like they don’t exist.
"it's not the racism, its the denial of racism". that hit the nail on the head perfectly,
I won't lie your videos are some of the most well researched, clearly conveyed, and intelligent understandings of some pretty big issues. keep up the good work mate :)
What do you think about his video on CountDankula, and why did he get a lot of backlash in the video?
@@craydogdog1530 it was one of his less good videos, I agreed with the points both sides made and I think that both sides were kind of just arguing for the sake of arguing rather than actually having quality criticism
@@dry1171 What points did you agree with on their end?
@@craydogdog1530 He got a lot of backlash because the dankwanks found out about and all went to troll it. It was a very good video. CountDankula is an idiot, this point was well conveyed in the video.
Yea... No.
I was having a real tough time with all the toxicity we see online today and this video really helped me. Keep up the good work.
@Hugh Jones been called racist a few times before, have ya?🤣😂😂
“Laurence Fox is an actor and singer/songwriter who was famous for about two weeks” the shade 😂😂😂
He is a good actor and he has some sound points of view
How the f*** that nutcase was married to Billie Piper I'll never know.
The algorithm REALLY wanted me to watch this.
Yes it did, that should tell you something. That should indicate to you that the favour of the system does not lie with racists. The system is on your side.
@@andrewwillis9759 Nah I'm seeing these videos full of tired platitudes, stereotypical and unsympathetic portrayals of the working class, and picking of the lowest hanging fruit recommended to me constantly. Meanwhile my favourite channels are getting banned.
These are rubbish sixth form narratives that betray any sort of insight, full context, or wider understanding. It constructs strawmen and only discusses convenient examples without presenting the full picture. Notice how the nuanced ideas of Powell are skipped over...
I wonder why.
@@Miquelalalaa What "wider understanding"? What "strawmen"? What "full picture"? I wasn't aware this 30 minute video was supposed to be a comprehensive analysis on all of British history on race.
It's almost as if the focus is around examples of racism in the UK, and nothing more.
Do you wish to elaborate on your points, and express your opinion?
@@Miquelalalaa the working class? this isn't about the working class, it's about pervasive racism in the UK. Working class people aren't any more racist than anyone else - in fact posh people can be the most racist of them all - though you're right sometimes liberal media types like to falsely equate the working class exclusively with racism. Which is in itself kind of racist, because it feeds into this idea that only white people are working class, which is nonsense. Black and brown people are disproportionately working class in fact. The people who are getting called out the most in this video are not working class at all, they're public school boys like Fox and Farage.
I recently sat for my UK Citizenship test, the questions were some of the most random and obscure pieces of information regarding the UK that I'm certain you wouldn't find in a pub quiz, shit irks me
Most British people don't even know them. I think the citizenship test is stupid.
@@fnfallout5664 shut up
@@ahana2912 Quiet, anti-White.
@@fnfallout5664 then please don't come to work in gulf rich countries, please don't come to countries like Japan, Korea for tourism and please return all the stuff you stole from Africa and Asia
@@xillerrz7328 Going to another country as a tourist and not collectively leeching off its resources, not claiming to be a cultural part of it and not being a criminal within it is not comparable to our current situation.
Every race has stolen from others, either you can continue your double-speak standards on Whites or realize that life is 'will to power', that morality is in part perspective; Friend good, enemy bad, and it is valid, because human groups are not all the same.
every "despite" really had me on the edge of my seat
Thanks for making this video! Learned a lot! Subscribed! :)
Why you stopped making Videos ?
As someone who has watched a lot of things associated with this topic it feels like old news to me. Besides that feminist that has a thing for calling anything racist this and racism that bringing up the very much used "white privilege" phrase is counter productive as people as her are those who makes it even worse with something that is already something enough people get it wrong at. Totally not going progressively to wrong direction if you ask me.
I didn't expect to see you here. Great vid. I really think PoC should avoid the UK. It's systematically racist and they would only suffer if they chose to live here.
he can't even sing
I know right? Like, if you're going to get preachy to me through song, you should at least be able sing. 😂
He literally has the most boring monotone voice I’ve ever heard
@@mumfriend2545 i think the monotony is what I like about it the most
tbf Laurence Fox is great evidence that privilege doesn't always benefit people's careers. Guy's from one of the richest acting dynastys in the country and until the question time appearence he was "the guy from lewis" to over 60s and "billy piper's ex" to everyone else.
It's funny - Billie is fuckin class but the last thing one wants to be is her ex, that's some terrible company to be in.
Billie dodged a bullet there!
I know him from Deathwatch to be honest.
Good one. He's minted!
It benefited him enough that he had a career in performing arts lmao guys a black hole of charisma
I'm polish and I'm honestly lucky to not have faced any racism in the east midlands, nevertheless, this video was actually very informative and well researched. Many people are in denial of the UK being racist and it gets in the way of it being a progressive nation
whats your evidence for the Uk being racist the fact that you casually said it was or this clown telling you it is?
@@quinnishappy5309 you are the evidence for being a reactionary troll who’s delusional enough to even attempt to brand racism in this country as a conspiracy theory
@@quinnishappy5309 did you even watch the video stop trying to justify your racist beliefs and just admit what you are.
@@quinnishappy5309 What's your evidence for the UK not being racist? The fact that you are in denial of your birth country being racist and trying to tell people it isn't whilst also not knowing how to spell your own language?
Honestly seeing the reaction to the recent Sainsbury's advert I'm Honestly disgusted by my own country because racism is so ingrained in society to the point where it's not out in the open it's all behind closed doors opinions.
What if sainsburys blew that out of proportion for there own virtue signalling motive? I searched every corner of the Internet for the supposed racist backlash and it was virtually none existent. There where 17 tweets that circulated and they where all from anonymous accounts, and sainsburys made out they where heros by condemning obvious trolls causing uproar, but nobody acknowledged the fact that the remaining 65 million people in this country didn't actually give a fuck. Same as the recent football uproar, any platform that allows anonymity is always going to have 'trolls' but to suggest england is racist because of this is nonsensical. The media want you to believe racism is rife, but its probably not true. Racism was and is awful , but we are in the most multicultural tolerant time in human history, and it seems people are now fabricating oppression through sheer boredom. The majority of people don't care about skin colour, and it seems that is the real issue here.
Mr. Fox cannot sing. His mother should have told him. Maybe things would be different
A posh fuckwit, getting to do something that he has neither the talent nor the ability to do well, without criticism, just because he wants to?
That's the most British thing ever.
See also Boris Johnson.
Oh no, you must never tell bad artists that they're actually bad. Believe me, I'm from Germany.
He’s trying real hard for a Leonard Cohen vibe and got just close enough to it for me to notice how badly he failed.
Jeff Buckley he is not.
It's too late. His brain has stopped growing now. He's fully cooked, and will end up in the scraps bin.
Lawrence Fox, a.k.a. the most divorced man in history
A bard with 0 in Charisma
This is very good. I actually went blind when I was 12. I am using a phone that reads what’s on the screen by the way before anyone claims I’m lying. But I often encounter people who think that I literally can’t be discriminated against because the law says so, and they couldn’t imagine anyone discriminating against somebody with a disability. And they are often shocked to hear some of my stories because their first answer is, but that’s against the law. As if the law can deal with a HR person who changes their tone in an interview when they realise you have a disability and which you can never prove in front of a court was actually the reason why you didn’t get the job even though it happens one too many times. This is fundamentally the thing, people who have never had to experience some of this stuff literally can’t comprehend a world where it could be possible because they have never had to live in a world with those consequences to themselves. So in their mind, if it’s not happening to them, it’s not happening. If someone called me a cracker, what does it change, no one stops me from going into a shop because I’m white, the police don’t pull me aside more often because I’m white, people don’t grab their handbags in fear around me because I am white etc etc. So the insult has no greater impact on my life. Where as for people in other situations, it’s not the word, it’s the word on top of everything else that happens to them
My mother is an absolute awful unapologetic racist, and ive never understood why. She cant walk within a few feet of our home town without saying something about those damned (insert 4 letter racial slur). We all breathe, bleed, breed, eat, drink and sleep in the same way. Who cares if two people have slightly different skin colour or live in a way thats slightly different from yours. Wtf has it got to do with you? I've never understood racism. Im just worried that one day shes going to say something, and her family wont be around to save her (again). She doesn't seem to have any real reason to be racist, she just is.
Oh boy oh boy the comment section is gonna be one hell of a ride
Don’t you hate when Europeans are like haha you guys in the US have all the racism we are perfect we’ve never done anything, when it’s literally what was the largest colonial empire ever and killed millions of people and enslaved millions more
We also pay border european countries to "contain" refugees and everyone has colonial baggage. But it's more covert in the west than in the east.
@@xxx.118 lmao stfu libertarian racism is illegal in America and Europe that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
not all european countries were colonialists... some were the colonized.
@@Mmjk_12 haha we were never bad becuase the slavery and slave trade we created we changed our minds. Same with homophobia 200 years ago in the Middle East being gay was ok, but when the British came that changed and now the British changed their minds. I guess we can also forget about the bengal famien and the awful amounts of genocide perpetrated against indigenous peoples by the British. Changing your mind on the bad stuff you did is not even the bare minimum they haven’t even apologized
@@Mmjk_12 it was a joke and the Ottoman Empire past. A law before the British took over that legalized same sex marriage and it had been ok the entire time. European colonialism is the reason for basically all of the worlds homophobia
That teacher with the "I was surprised it was all pink underneath" shit. As a MIXED RACED (Half-caste...are you kidding me!?) I had a teacher tell me in 1998 that she was shocked that a "black boy could come top in an English exam". She knew she was doing something dodgy as she kept me back after class to tell me of her surprise at my academic ability. I thought I was in trouble!
But that teacher is why the race discussion is so busted in this nation. Racist people have been brought up to believe they literally CAN'T be racist because they're British, and think that screaming the N word is the only way something can be seen as racist.
As an American it helps to know we aren't the only ones dealing with this nonsense. Together we can all make the world a better place and end this bigotry once and for all. Power to the People!
youre a clown how do you end bigotry once and for all? I mean what do you have a 3 step plan to success......what a joke
@@quinnishappy5309 multi-step harm reduction
obviously people will always be biased
but things can improve
Adult is the only inequality they have is petty squabbles they occasionally have. They don't want equality the whole thing is a trick for power
You cannot socially engineer sth that is innate to humans
This was always my least favourite sex pistols song
lol
Jane Elliott is amazing, isn't she? Her experiment in Britain was scary, though. Even if it went off the rails, it shone a light on how unbending the brits are.
No, it shone a light on how the British don't like to be manipulated.
@@upthesock1 No, they just like to be the ones doing the manipulation, you clearly didn't watch the video. Funny how you view the truth literally displayed with undeniable facts as manipulation.
@@Mr3Run4Fun that's just your interpretation.
@@upthesock1 Hence my interpretation is wrong but yours is right? This dude was right, the denial is real.
@@Mr3Run4Fun you're entitled to your opinion.
As an American, I have to say, I'm often shocked by a Brit talking about all the racism in the US (admittedly a problem), but then go on to say things that would even make my 90-year-old racist uncle turn over in his grave.
After years of really analyzing this and looking at the data, I think the big difference between the two countries is the level of tolerance. The US is built on the foundation of diversity and it violates American values to have discrimination, racism, and inequality. So, while it DOES happen - it also outrages Americans - which is why you see these riots and protests. It's unacceptable to us. I've noticed that in Europe in general there is more of a dismissal of racism. People turn a blind eye to it. It is tolerated, excused, rationalized.
unfortunately history (which shows usa as being the one who has taken more innocent life from the earth than any other) says the opposite. you are assigning normal human values to a country... one thats never lived up to those values before...
@@saturationstation1446 huh? The US has taken more life than any other? WW1? WW2? The Nazi Holocaust? The Native Genocide? How do you figure that the US caused more loss of life than any of those events?
@@ekaski1 because im accounting for life lost due to unnecessary death thanks to capitalist corruption. the amount of natives alone was more people killed than any other country lol. now you add the couple hundred years of global poverty inducing empire building and you have literally over a billion innocent lives removed from earth before their time was supposed to come...
@@ekaski1 thats just human life too. add animals and we are the absolute most death hungry people on the planet. you would need a whole other earth just for raising livestock on if the rest of the world ate meat at the rate americans do....
@@saturationstation1446 uhhhh the European Genocide of Native Americans resulted in the deaths of 500 million people. The US killed 1-10 million, which is still awful, but no comparison.
This entire comment section is literally the problems you're describing in the video lmao
@@MM-br6hq you’re
Completely lmao
@@gaylordbigboobs ignore that comment I was drunk 😂
@@MM-br6hq fair haha 😂
For real, just goes to show their state of denial. So quick to defend the British empire..'oh yes we know we colonised and massacred a huge portion of the world but we also contributed in many positive ways.'
If only the same could be said about the Nazis...
Oh I forget we are not supposed to be human, its justifiable since we are subpar at best.
Its honeslty beyond exhausting. And its almost a waste of time to sit there defending you 'entire' race because unlike African Americans, your red passport counts for naught.
Let's be Frank here, That Lawrence Fox's voice sucks.
I think it's fine, nothing exceptional but nor was John Lennon's and he was successful.
I hadn't heard of him until he started decided to try and stir up drama in the media. I can see why I hadn't heard of him though, he's not very talented.
His talking voice is so gorgeous though 😏🥰
@@grimsleeper5945 I’m not sure he meant to stir, it was sort of thrust upon him on that Question Time then turned into a whole thing
God I have waited, for someone to address this in my country, the West Midlands
@@Dan_1348 many haters here too.
@God's Ex Wife it’s a fantasy land the exist between the north and the south of England.
It also happens to contain the real life inspiration for Mordor.
@God's Ex Wife it’s mostly 874 miles, of polite disinterest.
@@woodlandyeti As a fellow West-Midlander I can confirm that it was likely the inspiration for Mordor because i've seen more than a few trolls staggering out of kebab shops at four o'clock in the morning. ;)
i love the relationship between the jamaicans and irish in birmingham. my grandad moved from ireland in the 60s and immediately made friends with the jamaicans in underground bars (they weren’t permitted in pubs).
I've been living in Holland since 2018 after my wife from SE Asia was deported from the UK and all subsequent visa applications were denied. I love hearing about how lovely and tolerant the UK is though, really makes me miss the place.
Sad how the hate that many South Asians went through is not talked about enough. The p-word is used so loosely because there isn’t enough awareness about it.
why does your accent sound like perfect transition between American and British?
Oh my god! TRUEEE
Just a gorgeous soft Scottish accent
@@sagethecommunist5275 I'm not hearing any Scottish 🤔
I'm also Scottish with an accent that gets read more as American/Irish than Scottish. It's due to not speaking with scots dialect language, and the specific local accent of being from the North East of Scotland, rather than the central belt of Glasgow/Edinburgh.
@@pencilfangs I'm Scottish too and often get mistaken for Irish but never American. As I watched more of his videos I started to hear the accent more with certain words he said, especially the way he forms his r's. To begin with I just heard him as American.
Ah, the classic "bUt If yoU CriTiCIsE mE yoUr siLeNCinG My FREE SPEECH"
@Boxey collectey So you shouldn't be allowed to criticize anyone if it's not in a debate? That sounds pretty anti-free speech, I would clarify if I were you.
@Boxey collectey okay but what does that have to do with my comment? I wasn't disparaging every reply to criticism, I was clearly targeting one specific response. Please make your comment actually relevant to mine.
@Boxey collectey okay, again, what does that have to do with my comment?
@Boxey collectey Just to test this, are you opposed to the decision to ban cigarette adverts?
@Boxey collectey AGAIN, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MY COMMENT DISPARAGING THE ARGUEMENT THAT CRITICIZING SOMEONE IS SILENCING THEIR FREE SPEECH? (Edit: sorry accidental capslock)
Hahaha oh god, that woman that was surprised that the child that scraped their face had pink flesh underneath. What the flying fuck?! I've lived all over the world as a brown man, and the notion that constantly passes through my mind is "is there a place on this planet where I can live and not feel like an other?"
"I can't be racism innit mate?"
"Oh lad explain how"
"I got a Indian mate, he's called eeshan comes with us to the pub for a few pints"
"Yea but uh,ya said the N-word ya big nonce"
Feels good to be acknowledged as a civilized central european, too bad my county is lead by a government that’s not progressive in the slightest. Keep those videos coming, it’s really gloomy right now here in Poland both literally and politically and I need every distraction from this sad state of affairs.
I would still be keen on challenging Loner Box's implication that the ONLY reason why Poles and Slovenes (but also Czechs and Hungarians for that matter) see themselves as "Central European" (rather than "Eastern European" or "Balkan") is to assert their own perceived superiority vis-à-vis their Eastern neighbours and to distance themselves from the often negative stereotypes associated with the latter.
Much more importantly, IMHO, there have been centuries of political and cultural interactions that helped forge a distinct Central European identity.
Sorry things are taking a bad turn in Poland, bro.
@@YunTomeq Well, in Polish we call ourselves "Central-Eastern" European :)
Poland is a fun one to consider because it sort-of aligned itself as "the Eastern part of the West" along the initial civilisational divisions here in Europe: Orthodoxy and Catholicism. Then came Protestantism and things got complicated, but oh well.
Anyway. There's a bit of hierarchical thinking in our outrage at being called "Eastern European" for sure. But it also just feels weird and ignorant, like having "Africa" referred to as a country.
Yep. Things are pretty bad politically. Not just in Poland, pretty much everywhere. I want the 90s back.
@@YunTomeq Yea there definitely is that "how dare you call us eastern european we are CENTRAL european" but also, we are literally in the centre of Europe? Geographically? And the history is so complicated too... I wouldn't call the Austro-Hungarian Empire eastern, it at least tried to be very western. Czechs have Prague and that is considered a typical European metropolis which is a thing unique for Western Europe. But theeeeeen the Soviet Union happened......... and you can't erase those 40 something years from the history of all the countries that were a part of USSR. So it's like, well, we might have a stone in one village that has "the geographical centre of Europe" written on it, we might have our capital an hour from Vienna, but we are Slavs. and we used to have Socialism here.
To finish my ramble, I think the efforts to distance ourselves from the East are largely supported by the western anti east propaganda. After the revolution we all became US simps and did our best to imitate our big capitalist daddy. We want to have our own identity and pride ourselves on our Slavic heritage, but distance ourselves from Eastern Slavs as much as possible, because we are the Slavs that MADE IT, we're the ones who can properly lick Austria's and US's boots. But we go for work as waiters and warehouse workers in the UK like everyone else.
@@weareallbornmad410 That's really interesting to hear.
Here in the Czech Republic, hardly anyone is nostalgic for the 90s, due to the excesses of the so-called voucher privatisation and countless cases of large-scale economic fraud (the authors of which were never prosecuted due to a legal system still adapting to the new politico-economic reality)
I've heard multiple opinions about the state of affairs in Poland, mostly from Poles. I'm not Polish so I can't say anything for sure, but I like the way the winds are changing in Poland (I'm a traditionalist so no shit) I just hope everything turns out well for you guys.
As an american its really refreshing to see a video like this NOT BE ABOUT THE UNITED STATES. I want to know whats going on in your guys countries and your problems. I can see where we inherited some of them from even lol
@Boxey collectey did you even watch the video?you guys hate other white people, like he said. So did the us
@Boxey collectey english colonists that became americans and canadians didn't become genocidal racists in a vacuum. I think the british colonial past treatment of other people's during the Empire isn't something to set aside either in your analysis
@Boxey collectey anyway, my real main point was I'm tired of a seeming majority of videos in the english language being about the United States. There is an entire other world of perspectives and issues and other things that get buried by america-centric content and it's grip on world power.
@@Tarteh Tf is this shit?
@@Tarteh Good luck, it wont end well for you.
Great video, as a Bulgarian myself I can tell you we are painfully aware how the rest of Europe sees us so much so that we've started to believe it ourselves. Funny thing is that often times those of us arriving in the UK (myself included) are people that look for education and bettering ourselves and really have no interest in any illegal doings.
I hope that in a new generation of people who get to study with peers from all over the world this simple minded and racist opinions would become less common and politicians that are vocalising them would be shut down ( dare to dream huh?) . That is if by then the world doesn't descend into fascist chaos where the " loyalty to ones people " would be all that matters.
I feel that people aren't necessarily racist, just ignorant. Doesn't exclude events of the past obviously, there are outliers. But everyone is ignorant of something and an expert of something else, but being able to accept that you don't have all the information/ full understanding of a topic and are willing to better yourself on the topic sure as shit helps mitigate racism.
In my opinion, people are naturally prejudiced toward one group or another which is why little evidence seems to go a very long way in the race argument. People are naturally inclined to believe that another group, opposing or not, is bad and will gravitate towards opinions that justify this. This is useful in many cases, as it strengthens the bond with your group, but when it comes to race the real problem is that we are all on the same team in that regard, people just don't realize it because of the natural xenophobia that comes with a person acting or looking different than yourself.
@@loganpatriquin9443 That is a very good point tbh, it seems to be indicative of human nature to naturally choose some side in one way or another whether it's based on race, status or beliefs. I do wonder why though, like what benefit does prejudice even have?
@@eternally.sleepy ensuring the survival of your culture/ideals/morals/dna/phenotype/whatever.
You know ... just the trivial stuff.
It's the reason why you adopt children from another nation rather than having your own DNA continue its lineage. It's the reason why you teach your children what the morals and values are of Zimbabwean immigrants rather than what your parents or your own life experiences taught you. I mean ... it's all trivial anyway. What could possibly be the benefit of having your own culture and heritage continue to exist??
-_-
lmao ... bruh ... cmon ... you did get a brain when you spawned into this world no? Or are you on NPC mode right now?
@@BrutusAlbion Lmao good point completely forgot about those things if I'm honest!
@@eternally.sleepy well you're excused because I know you were a little sleepy ...
Being taught in school about all the tolerance we have doesn't help either. I think it was the police who came to my sixth form and told us something about racism and extremism and asked us about what we thought of as British values, and then gave us a list of some. The fellow then said "you might not agree with these" and I just thought, "why bother drilling them into out heads then?". This country's wierd man.
@@B-26354 You sir, are a halfwit.
@@B-26354 You told me I am allowed to disagree, I know. That's what I did and you're telling me I can, even though my anecdote is me saying that I disagreed with the fellow. Why did you even respond?
@@B-26354 I disagree with some of those British values, many do not hold them. The poor fellow wasted his time telling us something he didn't believe himself. You offer nothing other than a confirmation that I can in fact disagree. I knew that thank'ee now good day.
@@B-26354 I didn't I said quite plainly "Our country is wierd" because it is, our country spends so much effort convincing kids that my merit of being borne here they can't be racist and that we are open minded, instead of addressing the underlying issues of racism, an approach which allows it to fester. Perhaps a better word would be sickening or foolish, but I was keeping it light.
How old are you out of interest? You know I'm sure I don't have all the answers, but neither do you. And I don't need welcomed to our Liberal democracy I've lived in it my entire life. If you want a debate so much you shouldn't spend the whole thing patronising people you see as worse than you.
UK 2020: I'm not racist because I'm terrified of people thinking I'm racist! Ha! Checkmate Americans!
USA 2020: umm....
The Western World is not racist, but it should absolutely be.
@@fnfallout5664 ???????
@@fnfallout5664 stupidity is not an ideology
@@JJ-hm9ni Yet leftism is still a thing.
@@Superjake3ds Did i stutter?
It’s official, British adults worse at following directions than US children
I’m sorry but how the fuck is Laurence Fox a ‘singer’? That song just sounded like he was pissed and having a dramatic moan about how he’s such a victim 😬 I’ll be haunted by that noise forever now!
Yo why does Young Stalin show up halfway though
Brits have got polite fascism down with the denialism and dismissiveness of systemic racism, at least they keep the quiet part quiet unlike USA so people can keep peddling the "least racist country in Europe" spiel. Great breakdown as usual!
If British people lived in Nigeria they would get NO rights but if any foreigner comes here they get benefits and want to be pampered up like the nationals and complain when they aren’t. If they come here they should have a service to provide not be entitled
@@ShotsMerkzAll if you are a citizen you have rights to complain.You may not understand the feeling of people treating you as subhuman you know and the disgusting looks you get,have some sympathy.And please dont bring up africa Britain and the US fund child labour and all the wars going on there🤷🏾♂️
@@abdirahmanmohamud7186 everyone gets bad looks mate, if it's not race then it's what you're wearing, your hairstyle, if they believe you're wealthy or not. it's an endless cycle. you gotta fight back not be a victim
@@ShotsMerkzAll i want to ask you my guy because you may not understand best belive i can handle insults but no offense my friend you lack sympathy bro i never try to be a victim.You havent been in a situation so you may not understand.But im used to being insulted about other stuff.Imagine being called a monkey and racist words repetively as a kid when playing football by adults and being treated differently just because of your colour or being stopped by the police just because your colour and nothing else.
@@ShotsMerkzAll you probably have never been in that position so you wont understand at all.as a society we need to work together to combat racism instead of telling black people to stop complaining about it.
Dw man I'm from Australia and the government uses the amount of migrants we take in as an excuse to say we are the most diverse country in Asia.
We might be diverse but we have not made up with the aboriginal people and treat migrants as second class and give them the low level jobs.
But don't stress nothing to see here.
The part about Knife Crime is very true. About a year ago I was a caller on LBC and tried to explain to Ferrari and an Ex-London Police officer, that Stop and Frisk was not a good solution to crime in London. It's not even debated amongst academics, because it's so clear that if there is any reductions, it's from increased policing, not Stop & Frisk and even then it's not massive. It's clear even to the MET that the way forward is more funding to social services and expansion of support to crime ridden areas.
It can be argued that American identity and the origins of American racism come from the ethnic identity of English colonists and the fact that they browbeat and bullied other ethnic European groups (Dutch, Germans, French Huguenots, Scandinavians, Scots, and whatever variety of Irish there was) in the colonies into speaking only English and adopting "(Anglo and Protestant)American" values is where we now get the notion of "whiteness" and white supremacy that is now creeping ironically back into the mother country. A vicious cycle you might say.
Waiting for the mask-off moment.
"White supremacy is ironically creeping back to the Mother County"... It had never left our nation, it just has moments of suppression.
@@splanet5088 I'm only saying English people didn't create the system while in England, I'm saying they created it as a result of living in Virginia, Maryland, Carolina, Barbados, etc. And this particular 17th and 18th century British Atlantic world is where we get the notion of racism present in modern US and UK.
@@MadJackChurchill1312 He wanted the Saxon variety of Germans, but the colonies at that time were mostly getting people from Switzerland and Southwest Germany. It's hilarious to me that even those people weren't "White" enough for the English.
It's of no consequence but I think you meant that Eastern Europe is seen as "oriental" not "orientalist" which is a system that racializes asians as feminine and other, by Edward Said.
Watching from Spain and I think lately with covid the whole Mediterranian/Southern vs Northern Europe thing is becoming more relevant. The way tourists have no respect for locals and come just for the beaches and cheap alcohol has also been a big problem for some time since we live off northern tourists' money.
Honestly I feel so baffled when far right parties here make similar claims about immigration to those the British or Dutch would make about Spanish people...
In the UK we have not had a problem with Spanish immigrants we only generally have a problem with populations we generally have a problem with, And so we generalize about them
“You know what they say about white people Dan. You can call them honkey, you can call and cracker they don’t care, just don’t call them racist.”
-Mario
Former bartender of The Drawing Room (Los Angeles)
V good.
I made a video last year debunking that question. My god, does it come up A LOT. I didn't conclude it properly, but you've done a bang up job making one for me.
Her : tries the same tried and tested experiment in the UK
A few minutes later : well that decended into chaos real quick.
Some people don't like to be manipulated.
I mean the Brits have made transphobia a national sport, they thrive on spurious arguments.
@@strega1380 I think it's you who is the racist, what a sad little existence.
@@upthesock1 lol racist against whom? limey?
As a Black American who recently found out their European DNA comes almost completely from England, Scotland, and Ireland ( # 23 and Me!), I loved your video as we are on a similar page as to how bad the systemic oppressions of the past was /(sort of still is), and how it threatens all of our futures. Everyday I bleed with the universe for a shift in the collective consciousness.
"Everyday I bleed with the universe for a shift in the collective consciousness."
you and a hell of alot of others. of course the dark side isn't going down without a fight.
I don’t think so
Same. All England, Wales, and Ireland. I know where it comes from. And it’s weird, it sickens me. Idk where I’m going with this except, it feels like a lurking feeling.
manhunt48 Give them the money first, then. And tell them what country to go to in which they’ll avoid it forever. You act like people can just disappear to some utopia but that’s the problem: there’s no place in the world that isn’t infected by racism and the people who need to escape are literally socioeconomically the least privileged in society considering the wealth gap between African Americans and Native Americans compared to white Americans. Let’s not be dumb here.
Nice example in the beginning, this was actually taught to me by my teacher late into sociology class, which I must say was probably the class the affected me most as I shifting in my politics.
I am British and I'm extremely racist
Just ask my black friends
Black friends?!
You said you have black friends!!
It's cool my g you're not racist, i have black friends too.
*I'm joking btw
Yes I too am extremely racist
And there it is
@@kiso-em3px , they being sarcastic... I assumed.
John Terry, is that you?
"Lord bumbling loin of beef." I'm stealing that.
When I piss off someone, I'm gonna start saying "to me it's not offensive to you." Bullet. Proof.
What cracks me up about UK racism is that it's a very "How is *that* racist?!" sort. Like the people who say racist shit just never seem to know. It's weird.
It's more ignorance than racism (in a lot of cases). They don't discriminate but are just stupid.
You’re one of the few creators I get excited to see new content from. Thanks for your hard work!
I had my tutor at college mispronounce my middle name (it a welsh name) so I corrected them only to be to be told that the way they said it was the English way.
The name is Welsh and it an easy one to say if the guys on eurosport got it right when Geraint Thomas won the tour de France you can get it right
Pronouncing every word in a foreign accent is pathetic
I'm ten minutes in and holy shit, i don't even know what to say except I fucking despise racism more than ever, if we as a species are to advance at all we have got to find an answer, seeing everything that has happened in 2020 has only made me want to connect with people more when it's safe to. I've seen racist views come out of people on social media that I never expected, luckily most of these people such a big connection to so I don't feel their absence at all having deleted them, the UK needs to sort these issues out big time weather we like to admit or not.
(AFTER WATCHING THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH NOW)
lonerbox has said it the best way I think anyone ever possibly could, nonetheless I have hope for the future, I really hope that in a post covid world things will change, conversations are gonna be tough for some but we as humans need to be doing whatever we can to try and solve this horrible outdated problem called racism.
I think the majority of people still have tribal social attitudes and feel threatened when something or someone is different to what is more common in their everyday life. Same could be said for every other living thing.
This video is my introduction to this channel - Brilliant stuff! Subbed
this is an incredible video, hats off to you. I’m english and it shocks me that people think this country isn’t racist, it may be covert but it is more and more obvious
If the country is racist so are you? But I'm guessing not, see swathing generalised labels don't really have much practicality. Cue: "well obviously not everyone" well say that then.
@@chrisbfreelance well not quite. This country, as every country, has a image to uphold. Some places like the Pitt Rivers museum actively works against this racist diatribe. But if the face England had, with our government and policies, the institutes we uphold is bad then so is our image. It is a nuanced subject and the generalisation of ‘England is racist’ is far more philosophically and ethically valuable that ‘England is not racist’. As it is a system i live under, i am participating, how ever unwillingly. But I am not England and that conflation is inaccurate.
We also think it's a trivial problem. Like you are a guest my home and I did not put out enough grapes or something
This is rather off topic, but it’s so lovely to hear Comptine d'un autre été playing in the background... I really love that song !! you play it well :))
I am the child of a middle eastern refugee mother and an immigrant father. I grew up in a foreign country, we had a very limited income, and lived right on the poverty line. I can say that I am 100% judged solely on my skin colour and gender, not on my actual beliefs or life experiences.
It would be impossible to judge people on an individual basis all of the time you would have to generalize particularly when you don't know someone. To judge you in a public setting based on your background culture, family is fair enough
As someone from central europe people here definitly draw a line of east and west along the former iron curtain. Especially during the "migrant crisis" the fear of a kind of stampede from the east grew
New camera setup's looking quality. You're on the path to video essay stardom, buckle up.
I remember actually participating in one of her group's I believe I was in 9th grade in high school . It was an awesome experience . I hope she survives this pandemic so she can do this for my daughters as well
The woman at roughly 2:55 saying she was surprised that a black child was pink underneath her skin. Ohemgee.