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  • @chaddavis513
    @chaddavis513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Man that purple body is so sick! Nickname it purple rain. And the black nova reminds me of Kurt Russell's death proof car. Soo cool!

    • @toolbaggers
      @toolbaggers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Call it fat Barney

  • @manso_mma763
    @manso_mma763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The purple slash almost looks too nice to drive 😍

  • @robbryan3044
    @robbryan3044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Something many have figured out - it's cheaper to build a narrow-bodied no-prep car from a Bandit, than it is to build from a Slash. With the Slash-based build, there are quite a few Bandit parts needed...but, with the Bandit-based build, for the most part, all you need is the Slash LCG Conversion Kit, and a few Slash front end parts.
    EDIT:. I commented about the Bandit-based vs Slash-based build before I watched the entire video, only to discover you end up mentioning what I had also said.
    Also, you'll be hard-pressed to find many people using that Pro-Line wheelie bar. Having a single ground-contact point could turn out to be more problematic then it's worth.

    • @jyax0647
      @jyax0647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also cheaper just to get a DR10 or 22S kit.

    • @robbryan3044
      @robbryan3044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jyax0647 But more enjoyable...a LOT MORE enjoyable...actually BUILDING your own car. Sure, you can let the factory build it for you...but, until you build your own RCs, you'll never understand that building them is half the fun. Even in getting an X-MAXX, instead of buying the RTR, I bought a roller from an RC chop shop, and am building it how I want it. Out of all my land vehicles, the ONLY one that was an RTR was my first Rustler 4x4...ALL others were kits, rollers, and, in the case of my two Class 3 comp crawlers, built entirely from individually purchased parts - now THAT'S how to truly do RC.
      Don't be lazy...build something crazy.

    • @jyax0647
      @jyax0647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robbryan3044 And that’s why you buy the kits. I fully agree building a kit or finishing a roller chassis is way more fun.

    • @masonbrossoit4998
      @masonbrossoit4998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      im building one using a slash cause i already had one my friend gave me it does take alot of parts im just not using driveshafts if there too long ill shave them down and work with em till i need em im not doing any hard launches so i dont need the thickies

    • @baymobbrcclub7426
      @baymobbrcclub7426 ปีที่แล้ว

      That 1 wheel wheelie bar doesnt seem like it would work that good

  • @davidshipman4555
    @davidshipman4555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video as always, really appreciate the links in the description, makes watching your videos way better than other ones I have watched. I can see something I might want and don't have to rewind and search for the item.

  • @713Ace529
    @713Ace529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn’t take much to figured out the math!. I’m glad they produce one RTR. 🇨🇱👍

  • @kevinperry5458
    @kevinperry5458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all your time and effort 🙏 it is very much appreciated

  • @markmccullough6873
    @markmccullough6873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks badass mark,Good job!! Stay Safe Stay Healthy

  • @cargatube4473
    @cargatube4473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes man love it murder nova is my favorite street outlaw that thing came out sweet can’t wait to see your other one

  • @derricksazrc3411
    @derricksazrc3411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow you dropped that juicy content with perfect timing. This is good stuff Brother. You put in work on that mod to get it done. Super Clean

  • @KPtainment-RC
    @KPtainment-RC ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great project and the result looks very cool! 😎

  • @fast75chevy
    @fast75chevy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I trimmed the stock front body post down to the hight I wanted and re drilled pilot holes worked great. Just built pretty much tge same car minus the new transmission. To me it cost a little bit more but pretty satisfying when it done.. awesome vids

  • @robbibun
    @robbibun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am in love with your garage!

  • @tha_ending3897
    @tha_ending3897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The purple is badass looking

  • @jonhaas1231
    @jonhaas1231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Murder Nova!! I just converted my Slash to a Drag Slash. Did the clear 68 Nova body. Painted pearl black w tinted windows, black wing, black wheels. Got the aluminum wheelie bar & it throws sparks. So much fun!
    edit: I used Bandit rear arms I had laying around. I couldn't get the rear tires tucked under the rear fenders. Ended up cutting them out more...looks ok. Yours is better.

  • @Moonsauc3
    @Moonsauc3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was super excited for the drag slash, even waited for it to come out. But I think I'll just build my own. I can make it the way I want and yes, you can build it cheaper. - if I bought the rtr I can almost guarantee it will see little to no use

  • @Tireblaster
    @Tireblaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great conversion, Mark. I have to say both of them look sick, the Proline Drag Slash and the Traxxas one. I have just bought a used Proline 2wd Short Course Truck, that I will use for my Drag build.

    • @radkesrods1184
      @radkesrods1184 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i kept wondering why my CAR destroys these... its because you clowns are using trucks made for the dirt. lol keep on losing.

  • @benjimandover8072
    @benjimandover8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks mark... I'm probably gonna buy...then build some later...your car looks amazing...cant wait to see some hits...🤘😆

  • @mr.onedayatuhtime5523
    @mr.onedayatuhtime5523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That thing looks allll the way killer nice job.

  • @thomaspoindexter606
    @thomaspoindexter606 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heck yeah man thanks for the build I'm going to try again to get mine together you put part's I needed down I got that nova body also thanks

  • @FromthePits
    @FromthePits 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I wonder if those Mickey Thompson's are exclusive to the drag Slash, I wouldn't mind some for my DR10 build.

    • @MarkSantaMaria
      @MarkSantaMaria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they are super wide too... I like them.

  • @MrSoakinrays
    @MrSoakinrays 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark great job. In the videos I’ve watched using proline shocks they say to use front shocks in the rear as well. The front shocks don’t push the a-arms down as much.

  • @austindanquer92
    @austindanquer92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah great video man can’t wait to buy one

  • @soulbrother3299
    @soulbrother3299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude!!!!! I'm gonna try in build my own!!!!!! Awesome video...I also subscribed!

  • @baymobbrcclub7426
    @baymobbrcclub7426 ปีที่แล้ว

    That clear trans case looks sikk!

  • @storyracing387
    @storyracing387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BUILD! Always build!! 😁 Paint is almost the best part!! My choice would, for the first car, is the Proline 3rd Gen Camaro, 2nd would be a 60s Nova, and last is 80s Regal 🏁🏆✊🧨🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @CoachD386
    @CoachD386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Build one, i have and definitely cost me less than $500...

    • @gasolinediesel972
      @gasolinediesel972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's not even including the fact that you have to spend another $100+ for a new radio because you can't use the tsm receiver for racing.

    • @fencer39
      @fencer39 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gasolinediesel972 Can get a radio for $45 and it good enough considering range is only 150 feet

    • @gasolinediesel972
      @gasolinediesel972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fencer39 You have to get a radio with good responsiveness. You don't want some cheap garbage.

    • @MarkSantaMaria
      @MarkSantaMaria 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With the tranny, tires, body, and brushless?

    • @a007raptor_3
      @a007raptor_3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

  • @lovedaddy247
    @lovedaddy247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome build! Thanks for doing this. I'm not dissing the Traxxas drag Slash but I would like to build my own at some point like you did. I do like the Nova style. I'm kind of building an ET48 2.0 at the moment though.

  • @rcmtb1052
    @rcmtb1052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😍😍😍 love it

  • @bretttanner7712
    @bretttanner7712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that looks beeeeeeutiful

  • @bradajag
    @bradajag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve built and still in the process of upgrading and changing my traxxas drag car.

  • @johnsharpnack2164
    @johnsharpnack2164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see that Kevin got a Green one. I put it on my Wish list for next year. Great video Mark

  • @carlbrindley5988
    @carlbrindley5988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks good!!!

  • @Johnnydammit
    @Johnnydammit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Street outlaws fan? Nice! I use to be part of the pit crew for Lizzy's dad!

  • @a007raptor_3
    @a007raptor_3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I built one for around 400 or less but definitely cool seeing you do it

  • @paulpadilla5288
    @paulpadilla5288 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude.....that thing looks sick.....love the Black Nova body. It's cheaper to buy it built....you can cut corners on somethings to make it cheaper....but it's cheaper rtr.....great video👍

  • @thomasdowneyjr.4162
    @thomasdowneyjr.4162 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice looks great i got the proline trans for my bandit street and dirt basher

  • @jonhoisington8927
    @jonhoisington8927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You gave me a great idea. I have a bandit that is needed rebuilt. Get a LCG chassis and convert it.

  • @lloyderc
    @lloyderc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice. I used same body with same color. I just added blue flames

  • @quadkrazykeith
    @quadkrazykeith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its awesome when they give it to you

  • @krankillen
    @krankillen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @robbibun
    @robbibun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am definitely going to Canton next weekend for the drag races

  • @davidsosa5185
    @davidsosa5185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Even though the drag slash looks nice, I prefer the murdered out Nova 😎😆

  • @JoseSantos-xz4db
    @JoseSantos-xz4db 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I built mines from scratch.. all in all to make it to a roller and to keep it coast down with plastic shocks and the regular transmission case with start gearing without electronics remote I spent approximately 220 that’s without the body body cost me about $55 .. now adding the electronics I paid 180 as tax included for spectrum remote with receiver and another 160 for castle creation combo … so it was over 500 just building it

  • @hillbillygaragecs2921
    @hillbillygaragecs2921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thank I'm going with shash front and bandit rear

  • @redwolfrc1.14
    @redwolfrc1.14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this truck. Even though I dont have one yet. I want this purple one and the red one and the black one and the white one lol .thanks for sharing with us mark. Great video 💪👍✌💯🍺🤘🚬

  • @EthanCortezBarrandey
    @EthanCortezBarrandey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I converted my rustler to a traxxas drag. It's a multifarious mess of parts from the slash to the bandit but I pretty much settled on the lcg chassis with hardend plastic bandit arms on back and aluminum front slash arms. I'm also running the shorter front shock all around with the big bore aluminum shocks up front and the stock shocks that came with the rustler. As for the transmission.... I have 3 I swap in and out. I have the pro line 32 pitch which is alright but I like my hot racing all aluminum transmission and I also have a Robinson racing all metal 32 pitch spur gear which is my favorite spur gear. I run 1s and 3s with the gear ratio low to keep Temps down and have longer run times for the bash/speed runs. As for the wheelie bar I also have a few to choose from. I have the pro line on you have as well as the hot racing one which I don't like the ascetic to much. Not pleasing to the eye but the one I love the most is my dr10 carbon fiber wheelie bar custom fitted to fit any traxxas motor protector don't know what they call it. The only price I want to replace is the 30° bulkhead with the 0° one the slash drag comes with. Very squirrly if toe and camber are at 0°.... and I have both same bodies for my traxxas drag build pearl white nova and a crimson rosewood c10. Oh an I'm running pro line Hoosier all around sitting on j concepts rims. Yea love it lol

  • @radster8760
    @radster8760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Picked up a new bandit vxl slider for $70 from a chop shop. Lcg slash chassis is $35 locally. Wheels and tires are $80. A cheap 5.5 brushless system was $75. Body was $50. Made my own wheelie bar for $10. Used a gt3c that I already had for a radio, just needed a $16 receiver. Total cost was $336. Runs a consistent 2.76, is solid and straight down the track, and was 100% built on a budget. So it can be done cheap, if you source your parts in different ways.

  • @jordansrc8483
    @jordansrc8483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks nice. Will be interesting to see how they compare on track. Great vid Mark 👏👍
    What are the caster block differences a little more in depth?

    • @MarkSantaMaria
      @MarkSantaMaria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The holes that the hinge pins go through are larger on the bandit... its strange

  • @GearWorksRc
    @GearWorksRc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang man you've done up a Traxxas drag slash the way I've always wanted to but I've made my mind up hopefully soon ill have the losi drag car the camaro.

  • @nicholasfordert5681
    @nicholasfordert5681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Are you going to do a review on the 4-Tex 3.0

  • @bokflea003
    @bokflea003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: is it possible to build this as an all around basher rather than a drag racing car?

  • @kevinstewart9376
    @kevinstewart9376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How you adjusted punch setting on arrma vorteks

  • @filipinoimmigrantincanada6648
    @filipinoimmigrantincanada6648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark shoutout to FORCE. Filipino Okanagan RC Enthusiast here in BC Canada!

  • @martinmcdoniel4551
    @martinmcdoniel4551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Info Mark Im joining your patreon I was building a Rustler for speed runs but I think Im gonna switch to a drag Car...I have a bandit/Rustler chassis and I have castle power all ready I printed out your parts list and Im gonna build one or convert my speed runner into a drag car...Thanks again

  • @Bluespade115
    @Bluespade115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if you use a LCG Slash chassis with 3d printed parts will hold up for rc drags

  • @rclife9725
    @rclife9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mark I already have a remote that has launch control in it would you go with the low seat 22 for speed

  • @Stergos69
    @Stergos69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the proline bodies fit on the New drag Slash or only the C-10

  • @isaackshirley4695
    @isaackshirley4695 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it would be worth it especially the new radio and the new rear end

  • @B1ou1nsGarage
    @B1ou1nsGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i’m new to the rc stuff and my first car is a slash 4x4 ultimate. can i make that into a “drag slash” just by shaving some weight and putting some slicks on it. what really makes a drag slash? i’m new to this. just wondering if i can do it

  • @robbibun
    @robbibun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think on the proline Chanel they posted a build video and they drilled the holes on the caster blocks out

  • @hillbillygaragecs2921
    @hillbillygaragecs2921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man is the rusler and slash and bandit front a arms the same?

  • @nicosenecaut7542
    @nicosenecaut7542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The nova body fits the drag slash f10 stock body mounts ?

  • @bobbylefebvre6298
    @bobbylefebvre6298 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice car street outlaws

  • @midwestboss8808
    @midwestboss8808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still deciding on my opinion on drag racing , I need to go to a race

  • @Martin-pu1ti
    @Martin-pu1ti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s a beauty!… But!…But!…wait for it Mark!…you missing your MSM stickers on it Mark!…lol 😂😂😂🇸🇬

  • @jackcarmichael2476
    @jackcarmichael2476 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Can you put a set of regular street tires on these to cruise around and then throw the slicks and wheelie bar back on when its drag racing time?

  • @masonbrossoit4998
    @masonbrossoit4998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do i need to change out driveshafts to or just the links and a-arms

  • @larrythodgson7230
    @larrythodgson7230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember to balance your tires and then you have fun

  • @connerellsworth8736
    @connerellsworth8736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want the flat paint finish you can take a very light sand paper or scotch bright to the body before you add stickers

  • @robertruiz5417
    @robertruiz5417 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video like always who's your painter

  • @anthonybarto4721
    @anthonybarto4721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to put the bandit rear arms on?

  • @Monkey44
    @Monkey44 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think I cal build one with a helicon domonios 10sc

  • @mikesr.c.lifewade6328
    @mikesr.c.lifewade6328 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My bandit is in the process of being in a drag car

  • @jasonmcwilliams143
    @jasonmcwilliams143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro I saw an infraction v2 on ya shelf in a video when are you going to do a vlog on that

  • @Mattvarville
    @Mattvarville 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    does coda racing casterblocks work?

  • @poorboytrucking1
    @poorboytrucking1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just my opinion or thoughts. If you're going to be competitive a custom chassis, esc,motor and a few other things i would think you would be money ahead building one but if it's just one to run on the street and mess around with the rtr would be a good idea and upgrade as you go. Kinda like racing our rc10s and jrx2s back in the 90's by the time you upgraded all the aftermarket stuff there wasn't much left for stock parts.

  • @baymobbrcclub7426
    @baymobbrcclub7426 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the proline trans have the trans brake feature?

  • @Yayo509
    @Yayo509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the nova body fit in Traxxas drag slash?

  • @trevorb3521
    @trevorb3521 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I wanted to swap to the pro-line transmission...is it a direct swap with the drag slash?

  • @JFlyer1973
    @JFlyer1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my gosh you gotta show us that painted body now dammit!!! 🔥😁

  • @justinslayton6266
    @justinslayton6266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see what is faster

  • @ricardocorrea9569
    @ricardocorrea9569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question. Can I run a 3s lipo with the stock setup

  • @brianlip7290
    @brianlip7290 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool body .. i got sharkrcbodies gto i made mine to look like the big chiefs crow . im just waiting to i can get traxxas drag slash

  • @artiep6358
    @artiep6358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice you need to get a flat clear and spray the outside making the black paint flat 👍🏼🤙🏼

  • @bobbygrinns3003
    @bobbygrinns3003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try out dr10 from team associated? Upgraded spur to 86 pinion to 31.... Things hot and blows slash out of water......

  • @rcsubject9844
    @rcsubject9844 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what I’ll say is my friend gave me his old 4s maxx system. I put that system in my stock 2wd slash stock trans played with the gearing and I guarantee it will take the new drag slash any day of the week.

  • @chrisregister8021
    @chrisregister8021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All u have to change on the front is the pins that hold the wheels... I built one exactly the same : )

  • @muddfoot69
    @muddfoot69 ปีที่แล้ว

    The proline diff vs the Magnum?

  • @lanceclark5511
    @lanceclark5511 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    look how much fun you had building your own car. the look on your face said it all vs buying one already built. plus is the Traxxas drag slash competitive out the box or will you have to spend more money to be competitive at your local track. I say build your own vs spending $500 on a truck that your going to be swapping parts on anyway.

  • @hondofourfivetwo9347
    @hondofourfivetwo9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My thoughts on buy a kit or build it from parts depends on budget and your end goals and vision for the build. Personally I’d still start my build with just a pile of choice aftermarket parts if I were to go with a slash based drag car(only because I have a bunch of parts 😂) but I have no delusions of my way being cheaper than what you can just buy from Traxxas currently especially starting from scratch however I’ve been eyeing the kit version of the DR10 so 🤷‍♂️😂
    A good example of better off starting from parts, I recently finished a Tamiya M07 based M-chassis build based around an aftermarket CF chassis conversion kit and just purchasing the original Tamiya parts needed (or the Tamiya/Aftermarket hop-up version of those parts) for the original car along with the conversion chassis kit. My build total is still more than if I just bought the tricked out factory version of the car and called it a day but that’s not what I wanted and I’d still end up buying that CF chassis conversion kit (which costs about the same price as the Tricked out version of the Tamiya Kit itself) add to that a few hop-ups that didn’t come in that original and the fact that I’d be tossing 90% of that Tamiya kit in the bin so basically buying the original kit becomes a waste of money and there’s my savings which is about $200. neither version came with wheels, Tires or a Body FYI

  • @muddfoot69
    @muddfoot69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the arms the same on 2wd and drag slash? Or are they bandit arms?

  • @geantuckfield6520
    @geantuckfield6520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get a 2 pole motor and ESC system for a faster 2s ride. 4 pole motor is slower on 2s.

  • @thomasdowneyjr.4162
    @thomasdowneyjr.4162 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ohh is there a way to make the proline from 32p to 48p trans maybe you could help me out there

  • @riftur7636
    @riftur7636 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need help please. I am just starting in the 2s No Prep scene. I purchased a traxxas drag slash recently but am trying to upgrade it. On 3s, the motor is amazing, 2s, it seems really slow compared to what I've seen. I bought a Spektrum Firma 100A Brushless Smart ESC / 6500Kv Sensorless Motor Combo: No-Prep, SPMXSEMC13 to replace the stock motor but I think I made a mistake and might return it. what is the best affordable motor (not more than $200) you would recommend?

  • @robertlongley9153
    @robertlongley9153 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool. Spot on about the cost factor in building one up. Especially the person who has nothing to start with. Maybe a person with extra cars or parts could be a little cheaper but not that much. Can’t wait to see the side by side running. Which car does Q-top get to drive against you

    • @MarkSantaMaria
      @MarkSantaMaria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hes driving the traxxas one with tsm on... hahaha

    • @robertlongley9153
      @robertlongley9153 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarkSantaMaria be careful he might beat you with the off the shelf model.🤣

  • @damonwheeler7538
    @damonwheeler7538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There was a lot of people asking when you were and if you were going to be at the drag race at Tulsa. Not sure why they keep saying Slash, because most of the parts other than the LCG is mostly Bandit parts

    • @MarkSantaMaria
      @MarkSantaMaria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aww man! I should have went. Yes... its totally cheaper starting with a bandit.

  • @jessefava16
    @jessefava16 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need bandit front and rear axles. Only rear arms are needed

  • @andrewurban8583
    @andrewurban8583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the dr10 with the 69 nova body and a c10 back up body

  • @rareracing1763
    @rareracing1763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you should get the Traxxas trx6 unless you already have one.

  • @eroticmasterbaker
    @eroticmasterbaker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can a drag car be converted to a basher?