Okay when someone says “we should include disabilities in the sims” I’ve always been like “yeah but there will be SOOOO many issues with doing it. I’m fine if they don’t.” But then I saw the sim with knee braces and a cane just like me. I didn’t realize how much it means to me to see myself if the game.
Yeah! You deserve to be seen! Personally, I would be totally happy if they added, like, mental illness, too because honestly, I feel like representation is a great way to humanize and normalize the people who have them! I'm pretty sure there was also a study or statistic out there that mentions increased exposure and interaction with different types of people help make someone more open-minded and tolerant of others!
@@spuilloh2637 I really hope you were giving examles of how ea would do a shit job of representing mental illness and dont genuinely think those traits provide any kind of representation...
@@spuilloh2637 just a quick note, the neat trait is nothing like actual OCD. It's a lot more complicated than that, most OCD has nothing to do with cleanliness at all. It's kind of a frustrating misconception, because OCD is actually really debilitating (mine was until I did a lot of CBT work over many years to retrain my brain). It causes insane amounts of anxiety and depression, and also can lead to hoarding due to increased emotional attachment to objects.
I imagine the same reason they don’t have actual height adjustments in the game is similar as to why they might not have certain physical disabilities in the game people with different degrees of scoliosis people like me who have crooked feet and walk really slow the list is endless but I don’t really fault them for that. However they should have had wheelchairs and ramps a long ass time ago real prosthetics too since it seems to work like an overlay and doesn’t change the sims actual polygon count etc.
@Leah NoLiah You sound like an asshole. People with disabilities shouldn't have to download and manage free modded content just to feel represented. So many disabilities can make it HARD to work with things like mods. "Sounds like a them problem" is a very stupid and ignorant thing to say.
I am a disabled Simmer, I've been playing since the beginning when I was around 3. When I was 2 and a half I was diagnosed with dwarfism, and whenever I put myself in the game it was never accurate unless the Sim would always be a child. When Grant posted that they were wanting to eventually do it, I got so excited to actually see some real representation. Disability isn't a bad thing, it can be beautiful and it should be represented. I'm so thankful for these mods existing.
@@katiebatch243 By play I mostly mean my older siblings would play and I would tell them what to do and sometimes they would. We used to play together on my parents old desktop computer, my brother was 10 and my sister 8
If this helps there’s mods to make your sims smaller :D I can’t link any right now tho but if you just search it should come up ! Also, damn you were able to play at 3 years old? When I first started I didn’t even know how to turn around so kudos to you on that XD
I wish I remembered the links but one thing I love for realistic gameplay that I have is traits for mental illness or more invisible disabilities like deafness, autism and fibromyalgia or just a general spoonies trait
I know JustASimsAddict (justasimsaddict.tumblr.com/) has a bunch of invisible disability traits like "cognitively impaired," "panic disorder," "depressed" and more!
I remember voting for the disability in the community survey. I'm not disabled but I follow a lot of disabled youtubes and influencers (mostly to decrease my ignorance and become more empathetic). But I agree this is a part of life to soooo many people so why not???
Yes! I voted for disabilities in the community survey. Not disabled but I do interact with deaf people every day at my place of work. It would be interesting to see deaf/hard of hearing represented in the sims
@@Rainbow_Butterfly my mom is severely hard of hearing. When I came home from school one day she had made a sim, and her house on my account. She told me how disappointed she was that she couldn’t put hearing aids on her sim. I really wish we had blind/colorblind/deaf/ hard of hearing in the actual game 😕
I’ve also found some 3 legged pet accessories, so you can have your 3 legged friends in game as well! I think it can add lots of variety to your game too ^^
wyattssims.tumblr.com/post/167606165501/three-legged-furrends-front-leg-version-hello Here’s the link for the front version! There’s a link for the hind legs in the tumblr post itself ^^ hope this can help some of you!
Why do we need disabilities in game when a lot of people play sims to get away from that shit? Download mods all you want. EA has way bigger problems and issues they need to solve then catering to a small percentage that will ultimately bitch and whine because this disorder isn't there or this thing wasn't done the way I'd like
@@kristall5928 If this is a life simulation game it should actually have things that can be found in life ;-; Also it has to show different types of people not everyone lives perfect and healthy the sims cant even put simple illnesses in which is dumb, you cant just represent only one type of the population :/ Doensnt make it qualify as a life simulation game
I have MS, and I listed disabilities when I filled out my survey. I had no idea that other people wanted this too. I just thought it was going to be a silent pointless protest. I’m so happy I’m not not alone, even if we’re a minority. My disability is mostly invisible, but things like service dogs, canes, and wheelchairs all make me feel seen.
Representation is incredibly important. We are invisible to the public already, too often, and being visible in the game of life means so much. Tha k you for running through these
I think some good mods are disability traits. I don't know if they still work since I don't use mods anymore but there's spoonie (chronically ill), ADHD, depression, anxiety, autism, etc. and they all seem to be pretty accurate.
@@Mobsie23 chronically ill describes people who are always suffering from different illnesses. It is usually more of a mental condition than a physical condition.
@@thewinner7382 No it's not lol. Chronically ill means you have an illness that's not temporary, thus chronic. A few examples are alzheimers, ms, asthma, ...
I have a tracheostomy, and I found a trach mod. I was so freaking excited, because it’s nice to be able to find something that makes my sim look more like me! I understand that they can’t create every little medical thing that someone has, but I’d love to see them add more than just the hearing aids and diabetes stuff.
My favorite sims mod for disability is the autism mod by PieBaldFawn its a trait and it adds buffs and stuff. The only problem is that it can make your sims feel extreme emotions that can lead to death.
I would love to have them. And for those who don't - maybe make it "Turnoff-able", like you could do with Sims3 Supernaturals. And it could even include smaller things like Attention-issues (HD..something-unsure how it's called in English ) Maybe these Sims get the Bored- Moodled alot when doing Things for a long time. Or learning-Disabilities, they take longer to do stuff like homework, learning stuff etc. But they can ask for help (maybe from Sims who can mentor in skills)
I have a mod for ADHD in my game, it's a trait you can pick in CAS :) It's pretty neat but I really wish we had an actual one in game! Modders are literally carrying the whole game on their shoulders 😂
I'm so excited about the wheelchair! I've been looking for something that isnt just a glorified chair. I was really excited with some of the things that were on the survey. I remember voting for vitiligo(its so easy to implement its crazy that they haven't) and bodyhair( I also think this should include facial hair for women, lots of different amounts lengths and colors, as well as different locations. It's not a disability but its something I miss from sims 3. I'm a hairy woman myself. Just naturally and I would love to be able to create myself properly). I also remember seeing neurodivergent and mentally ill personality CAS traits a while back that I was super excited about. The creator said that they put lots of care and detail into making them accurate and thats why they took a while. That was so cool. There was depression, 2 anxieties, ptsd, 2 bipolars, some personality disorders, ADHD, and maybe 3 different kinds of autism. Ill have to look for those again.
I work at a university disability service office... Can wait to share this with some of my students! There is a monthly esport event normally for mental health some of them are involved with. Thanks for making this vid! Also I know basemental added in Adderall and adhd
insert name basemental is really an exceptional mod, not “edgy for the sake of shitpost and edginess” but actually clever. Not surprised they would add ADHD.
As a visually impaired player, I would love to have a mod for tenji blocks. (The tactile ground walking indicators for the visually impaired/ blind. Most commonly seen at crosswalks, and railway / subway curbs, to warn people of when they are coming close to oncoming vehicles.) Haven’t been able to come across one yet, but if anyone knows of one, please let me know! I would think one could make one not too difficultly by modding a floor tile, but I have no experience with coding, so it could be more challenging than I think.
ChepiFaerydae Wow, didn't know that's what those were called! They're so useful, though! I'm a visually impaired simmer too. I'd love to see my sim read Braille like I do, and have her electronics spout out screen reader synthesized Simlish speech ... that'd be amazing! I have this kind of dream where I could have a mysterious deaf mermaid, crafty blind witch, and tricked-out alien with prosthetics or wheelchair. I'd like the Simsto do disability with care and sensitivity, but also with that lighthearted trademark flare they have.
ChepiFaerydae Yes, it totally would! I mean, as a white cisgender female I have a lot of privelage I don't think about much. However, I do find myself thinking about disability quite a lot, as the ability to see perfectly is a privelage I was not born with. As my Diversity in Psychology professor put it, those privelages we have are the ones we think least about, and those we do not have are those we think about most. For example, I never thought about making a sim more representative of folks who are transgender, nonbinary, gender non-conforming, etc. However that update still blew me away. Similarly, I feel like people without disabilities don't think much of how amazing it would be to have them in an update, but would be similarly impressed by their inclusion. If it takes a few more years for them to add disability, that's fine, as long as they don't forget about it, and as long as they approach it with as much tact and grace as they appear to have approached sex and gender. NOTE: I hope this post is worded okay, and isn't offensive ... I can only assume how impactful the sex/gender update was for people, and I'm sorry if my comparison/example fell flat, but it's the best I can think of. Have a great weekend!
@@MagicalAuroraDream No no, absolutely. Hearing you say - as a cisgender person - that the Sims 4 transgender, nonbinary and gender non-conforming element blew you away is really nice and it's cool that you recognise you hadn't initially thought about it but appreciated its addition when you saw it. I hope other people thought it was good too :)
EnglishSimmer That would just be horrible that disabled people would have to pay for representation in the game. I agree with you, I really hope “The Sims 4: Get Disabled!/My First Disability Stuff” won’t be a thing.
Great and considerate video! I also love the variety of disabilities mentioned. Just a little note, maybe don't use language like "not as bad" for degrees of disability. It might be better to refer directly to the aspect you are talking about. Again, very small remark to an otherwise very good and cool video. Keep on doing what you do.
So excited that two of my favorite TH-camrs are collabing! I've never made a self Sims in the Sims 4 because there's no wheelchairs or leg braces. I've played around with some of this CC and mods over the years and I'm so glad it exists. Thank you for making this video!
Here from Jessica's channel! This was amazing. As a disabled simmer, I will definitely be using these mods once I figure it all out. Thank you for going through them all. Subscribing!!!!
i really love the representation the mod community focuses on and incorporates into the game!🙌 I can't wait to add some realism to my characters in my new Sims 4 LP "The Sweetest Taboo"!! Thank you for making this video, because without you bringing light to these mods, I would've never known about them!
I have been looking for mods for disabilities for a while now! Which is how I found discussions with people who are against it to be in game bc it's "scary/sad" and the sims 4 is too family friendly for it. That really broke my heart to think people see it that way. It's for that very reason that it should be included to begin with, to remove the idea that disability is scary or sad :(
I know most of those people are not like me so I don't agree with them but I have hypocondria and can't control myself by thinking all illnesses (including mental ones) and disabilities are very scary (it's what my mental illness makes me think, even with a cold I think I'm going to die) but I still think its important to have those things in game but they should make it so we can turn it off. I had the slice of life mod and uninstalled it because the sims getting sick would trigger me into thinking I was sick and that my life was in danger.
I would love to have earplugs, and headphones for sensory issues, because I wear headphones all the time whenever I go out in public. Also some suddle autism stuff like some kind of reword trait or something that makes your sim feel uncomfortable in public, and give then animation of stimming would be amazing
OMG I am so down for this .it just randomly came up of my feed and I'm so excited to see this is even a conversion in the community.I have been spending the last few years "tuning the Fiat" that's Gearhead references in regard to the fact that I have been attempting to figure out what has been broken in my game for ages and only recently have I discovered a number of issues in terms of file placement and what have you that I have been carrying over from computer to computer and save file to save file not knowing that these issues were even there. So I've never really had much open Brain space to even think about this direction for creating my Sims I'm so glad I found this video.
I appreciate that that is kept like a mod and not an in-game feature. For real life issues I have real life already, I don't want real life issues in my game as well when I'm trying to chill.
As an older Sims fan (I bought the first Sims game when I was 20, when I was pregnant with my 21 y/o son), it makes me so happy to see how much the community has grown and embraced so many aspects of real life. The mod community is amazing!
The knee braces make me so happy! I have bad knees (well bad joints in general) and I have to wear knee braces from time to time. It used to just be when I exercised but it’s become more frequent (Sucks because I’m only twenty and I can’t always do things others can). Now when I exercise I have to wear ankle wraps, and I’m looking at stuff for wrists and elbows too bcus I know we’re going down that path pretty soon. I wish this stuff didn’t have to be custom content to accurately represent our sim selves.
My favorite game is finally able to put my assistive devices on my sims self?!? The fact that the animation is a hospital chair gave me a chuckle. I am still excited for the mod though!
This is pretty awesome despite looking kinda glitchy and the wheelchairs looking like generic hospital wheelchairs. I'm glad to finally be able to have more accurate representation in TS4 for my sim, and I hope there will be more modern wheelchair options available in the future. It would be really nice if EA actually cared and took the initiative to add disabilities to the game without having to mod it though. Even if it was a pack you had to purchase, I'm sure a lot of people would buy it and it would be a win-win
I really wish we could have disability in game 😩 or at least a mod that has more gameplay for it. I use the wheelchair a lot but it's so frustrating that my sim keeps walking around without it and that a lot of itnteractions just require them to stand :/
Thank you !! Sims 4 says they want to include everyone but there’s still one big group who can’t represent themselves. Some people claim that it’d be upsetting to see things like disabilities in the game but it’s not? It’s real people, real life.
This is such a good idea! There should be stuff like this in the sims and they should add learning difficulties too! I think that would be interesting to see! I wish I could get mods ps4, its a real shame the mods you have mentioned are really intresting. I think would add to the game alot especially if the sims team already included it in the game it would be more involded with a bigger spectrum of people. It will also have an even bigger impact on the community I feel it would make it more inclusive and make the community feel more involded in the sims world as well as getting involved with other simmers.
I can understand the animation nightmare it would be for sims to do this but I think it’s definitely worth it. Even just starting at simple stuff like the hearing aids, casts, as a little accessory that can be a huge step in the right direction
Disabled person here, and I find this concept really bizarre. The Sims is an idealised version of life, and disabilities aren't ideal, I would be "normal" in a heartbeat if that was an option. I have a history of severe mental illness and a connective tissue disorder, I'm not sure how they could be portrayed and I wouldn't want to play with those aspects if they existed.
Thank you for making this video! I'd love to see more simmers talk more about the lack of disability representation, it feels like the community is letting us down as it's a major issue for so many of us! Imagine if people talked about this as much as ladders! :O
I don’t remember where I found this mod, but there is a trait for pets that you can get that makes it a service animal. The mod even comes with a collar for the pet and a free reward trait that you can apply to your sim. Sims with the service animal reward trait will get a positive moodlet around an animal with the SA trait added to it :))
Found this vid as I was searching for wheelchair options for George from Stardew Valley. Already found necrodog's, tbh, but hadn't heard of any of the rest of these! the left/right separate blind eyes will specifically be useful for personal characters I have, and the others in general are very good. I'm largely invisibly disabled, and have found my modded representation through a bunch of custom Traits. Base game/EA "Gloomy" kind of works as a representation of depression, BARELY. but things like chronic fatigue etc had little option. But modders have made Traits for IBS/Chrohn's, Spoonie, bipolar, learning difficulties, etc. Between that and mods that allow more Traits, I can represent my issues without that being the ONLY interesting thing about my sim. The bottom left gets more than a little cluttered with moodlets, and you'll pretty much never just be Fine, but that's... well, fine with me, lol.
I think we need visual disability representation in the sims 4 but sims having disabilities should also change the game play in some way like deaf sims communicate using sign language and diabetic sims have to give themselves insulin maybe if they even add a separate drop down menu in the create a sim menu that gives you choices for several disabilities and each one has a trait with it that alters the sim’s behavior and gameplay especially making it so sims can have multiple disabilities at once would be awesome.
The guy swinging his cane around is actually how I clumsily manage my own walking cane when I'm doing my groceries on my own 😂 It helps a lot to have it, but damn it gets in the way sometimes!
@@Kylesimslover There are great mods for this! I use a couple of these (mainly the luumia sims one since it looks best in game) and they're very good. www.thegamer.com/sims-4-male-female-realistic-body-hair-cc/
I don't understand why anyone would be against disabilities in SIMS. If you don't like it, don't use it? You literally design each sim. You may never use that one pair of shoes on any of your sims- doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. Doesn't mean everyone won't... I literally can't understand why anyone would say no.
Okay, seeing these mods almost made me cry. I downloaded them all immediately, and I am absolutely loving them. I'm using the prosthetic mod as a fill-in for my AFO, and use the cane and wheelchair as well. I love it so much, and it feels absolutely amazing to have my disability represented. Thank you so much for making this video and bringing these mods to my attention! ♥♥♥
I for some reason didn’t clue in that people made mods for disabilities?? But this is honestly so good. The sims 4 is missing so many things that take place in real life, which it shouldn’t considering it’s a LIFE SIMULATOR. It also has a huge team so like?
we have a little bit of rep now in the form of continuous glucose monitors and in ear hearing aids. but I really hope we get more , I have cc that looks like surgical scars(vertical chest scar, abdominal keyhole scars etc) ,would be an easy thing for Sims to add . I would be thrilled to see prosthetics and can see it being one of the easier ones too. But I think things like wheelchairs may never be properly implemented, I'm fairly sure it would require a full overhaul of the movement system, it would need a revamp of how Sims 'reach items' and would need a ton of animation work . would love to see it, but don't see EA Caring that much
In a wheelchair part time along with many mental illnesses and a few chronic illnesses. I want to see myself represented but I also get scared that people would misuse it.
I want food allergies included...you don't know thrill/fear until you've taken a bite of something you don't know the ingredients of and have a deadly food allergy.
I realised after recording this that some people may wear helmets, apologies for the oversight! But I also know people who don't so I'm glad there's an option for both 😊
One of the biggest complaints I've seen about the Sims 4 has been the lack of in-depth game play with the actual Sims. I think that putting in the opportunity for disabled Sims would both allow for more inclusivity as well as allow for more nuanced game play. It'd be a win/win situation.
I'm honestly shocked this hasn't been added by ea officially. It feels like such an obvious feature. Plus could you imagine all the townie variety??? It'd be unreal oml I'm cheesing just thinking about it :00
I hope once they finally move onto the sims 5 the customization options are greatly improved. Soooo many features they've been pushing off should be more than doable by then. Height, disabilities, vitiligo, heterochromia, growable beards.. shoot like. ITS A LIFE SIM. Representation is important period but I mean... you're playing as a person meeting people and going about their life. Seems like a given to have as much variety as possible to try to be semi realistic to real life. Like sure, I understand why they wouldn't add shit like loads and loads of variety for teeth or visibly sagging skin cause while it is a common and everyday thing, those are so tiny but they'd require so much effort to get it right. But like.. having a few alternative animations to accommodate for varied heights/mobility? That gotta be more than doable. I know for damn sure if I don't see a good majority of those options OFF RIP in the next entry I won't be buying. I'm tired of EA's business practices atp 😮💨
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Okay when someone says “we should include disabilities in the sims” I’ve always been like “yeah but there will be SOOOO many issues with doing it. I’m fine if they don’t.” But then I saw the sim with knee braces and a cane just like me. I didn’t realize how much it means to me to see myself if the game.
Yeah! You deserve to be seen! Personally, I would be totally happy if they added, like, mental illness, too because honestly, I feel like representation is a great way to humanize and normalize the people who have them! I'm pretty sure there was also a study or statistic out there that mentions increased exposure and interaction with different types of people help make someone more open-minded and tolerant of others!
@@spuilloh2637 I really hope you were giving examles of how ea would do a shit job of representing mental illness and dont genuinely think those traits provide any kind of representation...
plum yomi I really hope so, idk the phrasing of just rename gloomy to depressed etc. irked me, but I’ve had a bad week so I was probably too harsh tbh
plum yomi aww thanks, and yeah wouldn’t be the first time ea has messed up representation
@@spuilloh2637 just a quick note, the neat trait is nothing like actual OCD. It's a lot more complicated than that, most OCD has nothing to do with cleanliness at all. It's kind of a frustrating misconception, because OCD is actually really debilitating (mine was until I did a lot of CBT work over many years to retrain my brain). It causes insane amounts of anxiety and depression, and also can lead to hoarding due to increased emotional attachment to objects.
It’s sad that The Sims team brags about how inclusive they are but all of the disabled people don’t get represented and have to rely on mods.
Leah NoLiah I agree with you somewhat but they should at least include in-game wheelchairs
I imagine the same reason they don’t have actual height adjustments in the game is similar as to why they might not have certain physical disabilities in the game people with different degrees of scoliosis people like me who have crooked feet and walk really slow the list is endless but I don’t really fault them for that. However they should have had wheelchairs and ramps a long ass time ago real prosthetics too since it seems to work like an overlay and doesn’t change the sims actual polygon count etc.
@Leah NoLiah dude we just asking for a wheelchair, walker and cane not for them to show how it is have every disability in the world.
@Leah NoLiah Not everyone is able to download mods
@Leah NoLiah You sound like an asshole. People with disabilities shouldn't have to download and manage free modded content just to feel represented. So many disabilities can make it HARD to work with things like mods. "Sounds like a them problem" is a very stupid and ignorant thing to say.
I am a disabled Simmer, I've been playing since the beginning when I was around 3. When I was 2 and a half I was diagnosed with dwarfism, and whenever I put myself in the game it was never accurate unless the Sim would always be a child. When Grant posted that they were wanting to eventually do it, I got so excited to actually see some real representation. Disability isn't a bad thing, it can be beautiful and it should be represented. I'm so thankful for these mods existing.
Sarah Van Orden incompletely agree but how the hell did you play sims at at age 3 when I at that age could barely walk 😂
@@katiebatch243 By play I mostly mean my older siblings would play and I would tell them what to do and sometimes they would. We used to play together on my parents old desktop computer, my brother was 10 and my sister 8
Sarah Van Orden ohm hat makes sense lol
You had adorably cooperative siblings
If this helps there’s mods to make your sims smaller :D I can’t link any right now tho but if you just search it should come up ! Also, damn you were able to play at 3 years old? When I first started I didn’t even know how to turn around so kudos to you on that XD
I wish I remembered the links but one thing I love for realistic gameplay that I have is traits for mental illness or more invisible disabilities like deafness, autism and fibromyalgia or just a general spoonies trait
Omg, I didn't know there was one for fibromyalgia! I feel seen 🥺 lol, I'm definitely searching all of these 🤭❤️
I know JustASimsAddict (justasimsaddict.tumblr.com/) has a bunch of invisible disability traits like "cognitively impaired," "panic disorder," "depressed" and more!
Phanie Same here! I have fibromyalgia too... wonder how it affects the sim, if at all.
I would love that it sounds amazing I ha e autism so that would be something worth looking into for me😊🧡
@@annabethsims914 omg thank you soooooo much🥺💖💖❤
I remember voting for the disability in the community survey. I'm not disabled but I follow a lot of disabled youtubes and influencers (mostly to decrease my ignorance and become more empathetic). But I agree this is a part of life to soooo many people so why not???
Yes! I voted for disabilities in the community survey.
Not disabled but I do interact with deaf people every day at my place of work. It would be interesting to see deaf/hard of hearing represented in the sims
@@Rainbow_Butterfly my mom is severely hard of hearing. When I came home from school one day she had made a sim, and her house on my account. She told me how disappointed she was that she couldn’t put hearing aids on her sim. I really wish we had blind/colorblind/deaf/ hard of hearing in the actual game 😕
I’ve also found some 3 legged pet accessories, so you can have your 3 legged friends in game as well! I think it can add lots of variety to your game too ^^
wyattssims.tumblr.com/post/167606165501/three-legged-furrends-front-leg-version-hello
Here’s the link for the front version! There’s a link for the hind legs in the tumblr post itself ^^ hope this can help some of you!
I can confirm that this is an absolute game changer it even works on strays it’s awesome
Oh my gosh I have to download it! Thanks for sharing that :)
WlecomeToTheJungle 🐆 No problem! 💖
I have a three legged beagle and this makes me so happy!
I'm autistic and a disability rights activist! Thank you so much for making a video about this
i'm autistic to!
I was actually downloading disabilities mods, Sims need to put that in the game asap
cuddleybear been waiting on it since the beginning
Why do we need disabilities in game when a lot of people play sims to get away from that shit? Download mods all you want. EA has way bigger problems and issues they need to solve then catering to a small percentage that will ultimately bitch and whine because this disorder isn't there or this thing wasn't done the way I'd like
@@kristall5928 If this is a life simulation game it should actually have things that can be found in life ;-; Also it has to show different types of people not everyone lives perfect and healthy the sims cant even put simple illnesses in which is dumb, you cant just represent only one type of the population :/ Doensnt make it qualify as a life simulation game
@@kristall5928 And also people play in console and cant download mods
Are mods free? I am new to the game and I don’t know
I have MS, and I listed disabilities when I filled out my survey. I had no idea that other people wanted this too. I just thought it was going to be a silent pointless protest. I’m so happy I’m not not alone, even if we’re a minority. My disability is mostly invisible, but things like service dogs, canes, and wheelchairs all make me feel seen.
Yes! As someone with invisible disabilities and a service dog, I would LOVE to have that option in game
@@paytoncrockett1283 yes!
Representation is incredibly important. We are invisible to the public already, too often, and being visible in the game of life means so much.
Tha k you for running through these
I think some good mods are disability traits. I don't know if they still work since I don't use mods anymore but there's spoonie (chronically ill), ADHD, depression, anxiety, autism, etc. and they all seem to be pretty accurate.
There’s a cc depression trait.
LikerOfThings pretty sure a chronic illness isn’t a choice??
@@thewinner7382 what? chronic illnesses actually exist. Both mentally and physically.
@@Mobsie23 chronically ill describes people who are always suffering from different illnesses. It is usually more of a mental condition than a physical condition.
@@thewinner7382 No it's not lol. Chronically ill means you have an illness that's not temporary, thus chronic. A few examples are alzheimers, ms, asthma, ...
This seems like such a great thing to have in game. Kinda bummed out that I exclusively own the game on console ://
Ye same 😭
Same!
SAME🥺🥺
Me tooo
If you have a computer, I highly recommend getting it now! It’s on Origin for only $5, which is really good compared to the normal price like $60
I have a tracheostomy, and I found a trach mod. I was so freaking excited, because it’s nice to be able to find something that makes my sim look more like me! I understand that they can’t create every little medical thing that someone has, but I’d love to see them add more than just the hearing aids and diabetes stuff.
My favorite sims mod for disability is the autism mod by PieBaldFawn its a trait and it adds buffs and stuff. The only problem is that it can make your sims feel extreme emotions that can lead to death.
Just get a mod that removes emotional deaths maybe.
wait omg what? that sounded so good until the 'death by emotions' thing... how does that work?
Finally! A service dog and cochlear implant, makes using my sim-self more realistic.
I would love to have them. And for those who don't - maybe make it "Turnoff-able", like you could do with Sims3 Supernaturals.
And it could even include smaller things like Attention-issues (HD..something-unsure how it's called in English )
Maybe these Sims get the Bored- Moodled alot when doing Things for a long time.
Or learning-Disabilities, they take longer to do stuff like homework, learning stuff etc. But they can ask for help (maybe from Sims who can mentor in skills)
I think you are talking about ADHD
@@magix6782 or ADD
I have a mod for ADHD in my game, it's a trait you can pick in CAS :) It's pretty neat but I really wish we had an actual one in game! Modders are literally carrying the whole game on their shoulders 😂
I have an ASD mod like this. They have some different moods that can happen and they take longer to learn some skills.
@@canniblanch That's awesome!!!!
Whaaat two of my favourite youtubers collaborating HOW DID I MISS THIS?
So cool that you're doing this together!
You didn't miss it. It was posted like an hour ago.
@@j.d.s.9759 I didn't see anything about this on their social media, not some sort of announcement 🙈 so like this was a nice surprise!
This is my avengers end game haha
i love them so much 🥰 i’m disabled and have some same diagnosis as Jessica and i love Molly
I'm so excited about the wheelchair! I've been looking for something that isnt just a glorified chair.
I was really excited with some of the things that were on the survey. I remember voting for vitiligo(its so easy to implement its crazy that they haven't) and bodyhair( I also think this should include facial hair for women, lots of different amounts lengths and colors, as well as different locations. It's not a disability but its something I miss from sims 3. I'm a hairy woman myself. Just naturally and I would love to be able to create myself properly).
I also remember seeing neurodivergent and mentally ill personality CAS traits a while back that I was super excited about. The creator said that they put lots of care and detail into making them accurate and thats why they took a while. That was so cool. There was depression, 2 anxieties, ptsd, 2 bipolars, some personality disorders, ADHD, and maybe 3 different kinds of autism. Ill have to look for those again.
I work at a university disability service office... Can wait to share this with some of my students! There is a monthly esport event normally for mental health some of them are involved with. Thanks for making this vid! Also I know basemental added in Adderall and adhd
insert name basemental is really an exceptional mod, not “edgy for the sake of shitpost and edginess” but actually clever. Not surprised they would add ADHD.
As a visually impaired player, I would love to have a mod for tenji blocks. (The tactile ground walking indicators for the visually impaired/ blind. Most commonly seen at crosswalks, and railway / subway curbs, to warn people of when they are coming close to oncoming vehicles.)
Haven’t been able to come across one yet, but if anyone knows of one, please let me know! I would think one could make one not too difficultly by modding a floor tile, but I have no experience with coding, so it could be more challenging than I think.
i never knew thats what they were called, thanks for educating me :) i think it would be great if they added things like that in the game.
ChepiFaerydae Wow, didn't know that's what those were called! They're so useful, though! I'm a visually impaired simmer too. I'd love to see my sim read Braille like I do, and have her electronics spout out screen reader synthesized Simlish speech ... that'd be amazing! I have this kind of dream where I could have a mysterious deaf mermaid, crafty blind witch, and tricked-out alien with prosthetics or wheelchair. I'd like the Simsto do disability with care and sensitivity, but also with that lighthearted trademark flare they have.
@@MagicalAuroraDream That would be fantastic!
ChepiFaerydae Yes, it totally would! I mean, as a white cisgender female I have a lot of privelage I don't think about much. However, I do find myself thinking about disability quite a lot, as the ability to see perfectly is a privelage I was not born with. As my Diversity in Psychology professor put it, those privelages we have are the ones we think least about, and those we do not have are those we think about most. For example, I never thought about making a sim more representative of folks who are transgender, nonbinary, gender non-conforming, etc. However that update still blew me away. Similarly, I feel like people without disabilities don't think much of how amazing it would be to have them in an update, but would be similarly impressed by their inclusion.
If it takes a few more years for them to add disability, that's fine, as long as they don't forget about it, and as long as they approach it with as much tact and grace as they appear to have approached sex and gender.
NOTE: I hope this post is worded okay, and isn't offensive ... I can only assume how impactful the sex/gender update was for people, and I'm sorry if my comparison/example fell flat, but it's the best I can think of. Have a great weekend!
@@MagicalAuroraDream No no, absolutely. Hearing you say - as a cisgender person - that the Sims 4 transgender, nonbinary and gender non-conforming element blew you away is really nice and it's cool that you recognise you hadn't initially thought about it but appreciated its addition when you saw it. I hope other people thought it was good too :)
These cc are so cool, thank you for making this video! I just wish EA would put something like this in the game already.
Hopefully if we keep having conversations about it, they eventually will! I just hope it's not in the form of a paid for pack
EnglishSimmer That would just be horrible that disabled people would have to pay for representation in the game. I agree with you, I really hope “The Sims 4: Get Disabled!/My First Disability Stuff” won’t be a thing.
@@artsy_marcypan As a disabled person I lost my shit laughing at "The Sims 4: Get Disabled!" Oh my god.
Great and considerate video! I also love the variety of disabilities mentioned. Just a little note, maybe don't use language like "not as bad" for degrees of disability. It might be better to refer directly to the aspect you are talking about. Again, very small remark to an otherwise very good and cool video. Keep on doing what you do.
Apologies! Definitely just meant the opacity layering and which eye looked more affected by that. Will take it onboard though 😊
@@EnglishSimmer Thank you! Again, I really loved your video☺️
i came here to comment this
So excited that two of my favorite TH-camrs are collabing! I've never made a self Sims in the Sims 4 because there's no wheelchairs or leg braces. I've played around with some of this CC and mods over the years and I'm so glad it exists. Thank you for making this video!
These are all awesome! I love the sims modding community! Thank you so much for sharing this :D
i didn’t even know about these mods! thank you!
Deaf and blind sims? Yeah I’m in
12:07 I'm not really sure what you're on about, I always wave my cane like this when talking to someone.
these are such awesome cc and mod resources! i'll definitely be looking into downloading a few!
Necrodog is my hero! I’m buying the wheelchair mod when I get the game!
Tara Gelhaus it’s free
Here from Jessica's channel! This was amazing. As a disabled simmer, I will definitely be using these mods once I figure it all out. Thank you for going through them all.
Subscribing!!!!
thank you so much for sharing these mollie. this is really amazing
i really love the representation the mod community focuses on and incorporates into the game!🙌 I can't wait to add some realism to my characters in my new Sims 4 LP "The Sweetest Taboo"!! Thank you for making this video, because without you bringing light to these mods, I would've never known about them!
I have been looking for mods for disabilities for a while now! Which is how I found discussions with people who are against it to be in game bc it's "scary/sad" and the sims 4 is too family friendly for it. That really broke my heart to think people see it that way. It's for that very reason that it should be included to begin with, to remove the idea that disability is scary or sad :(
I know most of those people are not like me so I don't agree with them but I have hypocondria and can't control myself by thinking all illnesses (including mental ones) and disabilities are very scary (it's what my mental illness makes me think, even with a cold I think I'm going to die) but I still think its important to have those things in game but they should make it so we can turn it off. I had the slice of life mod and uninstalled it because the sims getting sick would trigger me into thinking I was sick and that my life was in danger.
omg i literally have a service dog named honey!
I would love to have earplugs, and headphones for sensory issues, because I wear headphones all the time whenever I go out in public. Also some suddle autism stuff like some kind of reword trait or something that makes your sim feel uncomfortable in public, and give then animation of stimming would be amazing
I CANNOT DESCRIBE HOW HAPPY SEEING THEM COLLAB MAKES ME
OMG I am so down for this .it just randomly came up of my feed and I'm so excited to see this is even a conversion in the community.I have been spending the last few years "tuning the Fiat" that's Gearhead references in regard to the fact that I have been attempting to figure out what has been broken in my game for ages and only recently have I discovered a number of issues in terms of file placement and what have you that I have been carrying over from computer to computer and save file to save file not knowing that these issues were even there. So I've never really had much open Brain space to even think about this direction for creating my Sims I'm so glad I found this video.
I have all of these in my game because to me it just makes the game seam more real and also new gameplays
I appreciate that that is kept like a mod and not an in-game feature. For real life issues I have real life already, I don't want real life issues in my game as well when I'm trying to chill.
As an older Sims fan (I bought the first Sims game when I was 20, when I was pregnant with my 21 y/o son), it makes me so happy to see how much the community has grown and embraced so many aspects of real life. The mod community is amazing!
So cool! Someone needs to create forearm crutches and leg braces so I can finally have a totally accurate sim self!
I love this as someone with disabilities I love this ❤❤
Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention. In the last survey these were some of the things I asked for!
The knee braces make me so happy! I have bad knees (well bad joints in general) and I have to wear knee braces from time to time. It used to just be when I exercised but it’s become more frequent (Sucks because I’m only twenty and I can’t always do things others can). Now when I exercise I have to wear ankle wraps, and I’m looking at stuff for wrists and elbows too bcus I know we’re going down that path pretty soon. I wish this stuff didn’t have to be custom content to accurately represent our sim selves.
Jessica sent me! These mods are actually pretty cool.
The no bike helmet mod is just redirecting me to a sketchy site-
For now, my sims shall put safety first lol
But fr, thank you for this vid!
Amazing idea! Opens up a very healthy conversation:)
The wheelchair one blew me away! That’s so cool 😎
The collab I never expected, but that I'm forever grateful exists
My favorite game is finally able to put my assistive devices on my sims self?!? The fact that the animation is a hospital chair gave me a chuckle. I am still excited for the mod though!
This is pretty awesome despite looking kinda glitchy and the wheelchairs looking like generic hospital wheelchairs. I'm glad to finally be able to have more accurate representation in TS4 for my sim, and I hope there will be more modern wheelchair options available in the future. It would be really nice if EA actually cared and took the initiative to add disabilities to the game without having to mod it though. Even if it was a pack you had to purchase, I'm sure a lot of people would buy it and it would be a win-win
I didn't even realise there was mods for the Sims 4 for disability related things!!
I really wish we could have disability in game 😩 or at least a mod that has more gameplay for it. I use the wheelchair a lot but it's so frustrating that my sim keeps walking around without it and that a lot of itnteractions just require them to stand :/
I subscribed as soon as I saw you got proper closed captions, Jessica mentioned this video and it's about sims 4. Now I have to watch this video.
Thank you so much for doing this. As a disabled person, I really want disability representation in the game.
Thank you !! Sims 4 says they want to include everyone but there’s still one big group who can’t represent themselves. Some people claim that it’d be upsetting to see things like disabilities in the game but it’s not? It’s real people, real life.
Thank you for captioning this video!
Thank you both!
This is such a good idea! There should be stuff like this in the sims and they should add learning difficulties too! I think that would be interesting to see!
I wish I could get mods ps4, its a real shame the mods you have mentioned are really intresting. I think would add to the game alot especially if the sims team already included it in the game it would be more involded with a bigger spectrum of people. It will also have an even bigger impact on the community I feel it would make it more inclusive and make the community feel more involded in the sims world as well as getting involved with other simmers.
I can understand the animation nightmare it would be for sims to do this but I think it’s definitely worth it. Even just starting at simple stuff like the hearing aids, casts, as a little accessory that can be a huge step in the right direction
Must be hard though if they haven’t even figured out body hair out in 5/6 years 😕
Omg this video is a blessing thank you.
Disabled person here, and I find this concept really bizarre. The Sims is an idealised version of life, and disabilities aren't ideal, I would be "normal" in a heartbeat if that was an option. I have a history of severe mental illness and a connective tissue disorder, I'm not sure how they could be portrayed and I wouldn't want to play with those aspects if they existed.
Thank you for making this video! I'd love to see more simmers talk more about the lack of disability representation, it feels like the community is letting us down as it's a major issue for so many of us! Imagine if people talked about this as much as ladders! :O
DID ANYONE NOTICED THE FACT YOU CAN GO TO A DIFFERENT CHANNEL BY CLICKING ON THE TAGGED CHANNEL???!!!! When did this come into effect?
dang the wheel chair is fire. I definitely would use it.
If only my real life wheelchair cost forty dollars 😂😂😂
I need this! I make machinimas and my maincharakter is in a wheelchair rn so I need this🤍👩🏽🦽
I just used poses but this probably makes recording easier. 😍
Thanks for sharing. so excited to add these to my folder.
i'm so glad you included the service dog stuff! :D
My two favourite TH-camrs! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
I love you and Jessica so much this is incredible. ❤️
I don’t remember where I found this mod, but there is a trait for pets that you can get that makes it a service animal. The mod even comes with a collar for the pet and a free reward trait that you can apply to your sim. Sims with the service animal reward trait will get a positive moodlet around an animal with the SA trait added to it :))
Found this vid as I was searching for wheelchair options for George from Stardew Valley. Already found necrodog's, tbh, but hadn't heard of any of the rest of these! the left/right separate blind eyes will specifically be useful for personal characters I have, and the others in general are very good.
I'm largely invisibly disabled, and have found my modded representation through a bunch of custom Traits. Base game/EA "Gloomy" kind of works as a representation of depression, BARELY. but things like chronic fatigue etc had little option. But modders have made Traits for IBS/Chrohn's, Spoonie, bipolar, learning difficulties, etc. Between that and mods that allow more Traits, I can represent my issues without that being the ONLY interesting thing about my sim. The bottom left gets more than a little cluttered with moodlets, and you'll pretty much never just be Fine, but that's... well, fine with me, lol.
Im so glad these exist.
I think we need visual disability representation in the sims 4 but sims having disabilities should also change the game play in some way like deaf sims communicate using sign language and diabetic sims have to give themselves insulin maybe if they even add a separate drop down menu in the create a sim menu that gives you choices for several disabilities and each one has a trait with it that alters the sim’s behavior and gameplay especially making it so sims can have multiple disabilities at once would be awesome.
There's a chance one scene in the new trailer (For rent) has sign language! I'm wishing really hard haha
Thank you! God bless
The guy swinging his cane around is actually how I clumsily manage my own walking cane when I'm doing my groceries on my own 😂 It helps a lot to have it, but damn it gets in the way sometimes!
I would just be happy with bod hair plaese sims team and i kow there is amod idc i want it in game i'm tired of naked mole rats
Body hair not bod hair but it still works
@@Kylesimslover There are great mods for this! I use a couple of these (mainly the luumia sims one since it looks best in game) and they're very good. www.thegamer.com/sims-4-male-female-realistic-body-hair-cc/
They had it in 3. I wish they kept it in 4.
I don't understand why anyone would be against disabilities in SIMS. If you don't like it, don't use it? You literally design each sim. You may never use that one pair of shoes on any of your sims- doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. Doesn't mean everyone won't... I literally can't understand why anyone would say no.
My two favorite youtubers collaborating on my favorite game series?! Eeeee!
Hi! Came here from Jessica’s video. Love your channel!
Okay, seeing these mods almost made me cry. I downloaded them all immediately, and I am absolutely loving them. I'm using the prosthetic mod as a fill-in for my AFO, and use the cane and wheelchair as well. I love it so much, and it feels absolutely amazing to have my disability represented.
Thank you so much for making this video and bringing these mods to my attention! ♥♥♥
Thank you for the captions:
wow my two favorite TH-camrs I love this, I would love to have them in the Sims too
My disability is represented perfectly by having a low Sims 2 aspiration bar except when the therapist shows up nothing gets any better
I for some reason didn’t clue in that people made mods for disabilities?? But this is honestly so good. The sims 4 is missing so many things that take place in real life, which it shouldn’t considering it’s a LIFE SIMULATOR. It also has a huge team so like?
we have a little bit of rep now in the form of continuous glucose monitors and in ear hearing aids. but I really hope we get more , I have cc that looks like surgical scars(vertical chest scar, abdominal keyhole scars etc) ,would be an easy thing for Sims to add . I would be thrilled to see prosthetics and can see it being one of the easier ones too. But I think things like wheelchairs may never be properly implemented, I'm fairly sure it would require a full overhaul of the movement system, it would need a revamp of how Sims 'reach items' and would need a ton of animation work . would love to see it, but don't see EA Caring that much
Hi :) what a cool thing that you (/others) can do!
Omg I LOVE Jessica SO MUCH!! Also I’m mentally disabled and I love learning about physical disabilities and supporting people that are disabled.
In a wheelchair part time along with many mental illnesses and a few chronic illnesses. I want to see myself represented but I also get scared that people would misuse it.
i love this collab!
I want food allergies included...you don't know thrill/fear until you've taken a bite of something you don't know the ingredients of and have a deadly food allergy.
OMG! I didn't know Jessica was a Simmer!!!
I don't know what kind of wheel chair users you know but I most certainly wear a bike helmet when I'm in my wheelchair. 😂
I realised after recording this that some people may wear helmets, apologies for the oversight! But I also know people who don't so I'm glad there's an option for both 😊
She’s going so fast on the wheelchair she needs a helmet.😂
I came here from her channel❤️now I'm starving for the Sims content
Welcome to my channel! Luckily I have thousands of videos all about the sims haha
One of the biggest complaints I've seen about the Sims 4 has been the lack of in-depth game play with the actual Sims. I think that putting in the opportunity for disabled Sims would both allow for more inclusivity as well as allow for more nuanced game play. It'd be a win/win situation.
What about hidden disability mods 🌻
Ki Ji Hoon Jessica mentions those on her video.
I'm honestly shocked this hasn't been added by ea officially. It feels like such an obvious feature. Plus could you imagine all the townie variety??? It'd be unreal oml I'm cheesing just thinking about it :00
I hope once they finally move onto the sims 5 the customization options are greatly improved. Soooo many features they've been pushing off should be more than doable by then. Height, disabilities, vitiligo, heterochromia, growable beards.. shoot like. ITS A LIFE SIM. Representation is important period but I mean... you're playing as a person meeting people and going about their life. Seems like a given to have as much variety as possible to try to be semi realistic to real life. Like sure, I understand why they wouldn't add shit like loads and loads of variety for teeth or visibly sagging skin cause while it is a common and everyday thing, those are so tiny but they'd require so much effort to get it right. But like.. having a few alternative animations to accommodate for varied heights/mobility? That gotta be more than doable. I know for damn sure if I don't see a good majority of those options OFF RIP in the next entry I won't be buying. I'm tired of EA's business practices atp 😮💨
Ahh yes the hairy meatball on mollies bed
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