I think that what makes this song truly great is the soft and sweet melody in the background, which is nothing like the solo. It creates a juxtaposition that meshes so well, even though the sounds are so dissimilar. Thanks for reacting in the way I hoped or actually intended. After watching you two doing reactions for quite a while now, I have a pretty good idea what will resonate with you, and it makes me feel good when I give you a song that you really like. 🤟
A beautiful melodic Frankie solo less the sloppy at times,snare polyrhythms of Vinnie. Boy,Vince really overkilled some of the "air sculpturing" snare,dropping this guitar solo masterpiece from a 10 to about an 8,if some of you children(Fenwick,bwana,etc) "declined not to notice",as Frank would say.😉 No wonder Colaiuta only lasted another 4 months(with a very short stint return end of 80). The rest of the 79 tour canceled.
@@Royale_with_Cheeze Interesting how musical idiots like yourself,who probably grew up not priviledged enough for Daddy to buy a piano ,and pay for a few lessons , but now trying to save face by throwing in totally irrelevant insults on writing skills. Who cares about that,you idiot. Well,since you're a mental idiot in music "cheese dik" I'm now overzealous with glee on your feeble payback where you try gutlessly to save face from your lack of ANY musical education or music knowledge. You're so limited musically r that you actually have no conception on how Frank created this solo ,musically. Recite to me what mode scale he was using? What key was he playing in? No stupid, not the key to your car. You can't hear the sloppy polyrhythms on Vinnie's snare, messing up this musical work of art? Why do think Frank fired Colaiuta after just 18 months? He wasn't going to pay him what he wanted. He wasn't worth it, fool. You like polyrhythmic snare 🥁 slop? Don't you realize that Vinnie was a liability for Frank?
@@globextradingsystemsllc1740…and yet: “A (guitar) soloist choosing to work in this odd style ultimately winds up as a hostage -- he can go only as far into the 'experimental zones' as his rhythm section will allow him to go. The problem lies in the polyrhythms. The chances of finding a drummer, a bass player and a keyboard player who can conceive of those polyrhythms -- let alone identify them fast enough to play a complementary figure on the moment, are not good. (The grand prize goes to Vinnie Colaiuta, the drummer for the band in 1978 and '79.)" - Frank Zappa, The Real Frank Zappa Book Frank seems to differ big time ;)
I attended the third show of the 1980 tour and Frank opened with this blistering solo. Hearing it live was so powerful that my friend siting next to me just looked at me opened mouthed at the end of the song !
I own alot of Zappa albums, and I believe that I've spent more time listening to this than any other album. Not a bad piece on either disc. Should be required listening for all Zappa fans.
... This is one Frank tune that actually brought tears to my eyes when I saw and heard it for the first time live, absolutely aggravatingly beautiful! ...
guys i'm so happy you finally came to this one! I remember, as a teenager, when I was frightened of something ahead of me, I would just listen to this song and it literally blew my anxieties away
I knew about Zappa way back in the 80s when I was growing up, but never really got into him until about ten years ago. I knew of his popular music, but when I began listening to all the other material he put out, as well as the interviews, I was beyond impressed. Sure, I don't always agree with what he has to say, nor do I like all his music, but you can't ignore his genius and his place in the music industry as one of our most important composers. RIP, genius.
Being a genius like Frank was, is always going to piss some people off, usually the really dumb to be more precise...... this is an absolute masterpiece of Frank's virtuosity, loved your reactions guys, I could see Dan focusing on that guitar solo and experiencing bliss.....I don't know the real meaning behind the title but I always like to think it's aimed at our beloved governments!! Thanks for yet more incredible content you two....
Why people don't get it? I think it has something to do with listening skills. Some people struggle to find the back beat in 4/4, and any note outside the major scale is uncomfortable for them: anything that doesn't check those boxes is just noise. Therefore pop music.
He often opened the show with this solo for one of the tours, using a wireless system on his guitar so no lead. He started playing whilst offstage and you will notice at about 1 min 24 secs the applause as he walks onto the stage.
@@TheKwaze - Your statement "you will notice at about 1 min 24 secs the applause as he walks onto the stage." The applause starts first, THEN Frank begins to play. Listen again.
This opened the Newcastle show 1979, with the band starting and then he started playing offstage and walked on still playing. He then introduced new guitarist Warren Cuccurullo as "Sophia Warren" and they launched into Dead Girls of London - L Shankar was in the program as being in the band, including a pic, but wasn't there. TC is an easier listen then a lot of his solos, but I love them all
My top 5 album, if I want to listen to Zappa and can't decide this album always is the number one pick. Probably played through it more the 1000 times.
The title is Frank being prophetic about his wife and children after his death!!! Really like this though. Love the reggae all the way through. Being simplistic, it gives Frank licence to go off in any direction he wants in making his air sculptures. THis was from his string of concerts in London in 1979. I was there 2 days after this show. Frank had a bit of a love affair with reggae from here until he died, especially as he now he had a rhythm section he could trust. Love how Vinnie builds up throughout. I told Joe this was OK, hope he gives it a fair shot, lol. Great reaction Dan and Sifa. Well done Peter, you can't go wrong '79 onwards 🙂
You mentioned commenters who are Zappa fans, to which I want to say I'm glad someone is checking me. It does encourage me to dig for deeper less well-known artists and songs. Thanks to them, I'm rediscovering other songs I loved and sharing them. #chungarobbie
Right on again! Being so smart, Frank was a psychologist and did some tricks to provoke people who want to find reasons to feel offended (In this context, he would be in his element nowadays). Such are the ones that despise him/his music. But this here is something else, this so different from everything one can hear on God's great earth. So uniquely beautiful! Thank you!
Frank Zappa used the phrase treacherous cretin to describe Pat Robinson on the 1988 world tour. I have done some similar. A Crying Sky is from one of my song lyrics and I used for the title of an electronic piece of music I wrote. And it was deliberately written in a Zappa way!
One of those two-chord patterns he seemed to find really inspiring. Off the top of my head I can think of a couple of Treacherous Cretinses (pardon my Hobbit-speak) from 1979 that are even better than this - Pau, France (which is more aggressive) and Copenhagen (where he makes the guitar weep buckets)
Do you guys realize what scale is being used as the main scale? It’s a mode of the melodic minor scale, I think it’s the 4th , but I’m not sure, also you can’t play a pentatonic scale over this
with many of the tracks from SUAPYG you kind of get a twofor. In the sense that, as in this case, you are not only hearing the solo of Frank Zappa... but you are ALSO hearing Steve Vai playing every note of Zappa's solo--- note for note. It's hard to hear it, but if you listen carefully... you can hear Steve doubling everything Zappa plays here.
@@Royale_with_Cheeze I think what you're hearing is post-facto artificial-double-tracking - Sinister Footwear 3 is the only instance I know of where Steve doubled a Zappa solo. Refer to the Shut Up album's Notes & Comments pages on IINK, to settle any confusion.
@@Royale_with_Cheeze Steve Vai is on MANY songs on Shut up And Play Yer Guitar but he is NOT CREDITED. He was too young to tour with Zappa, but he was transcribing ALL THOSE solos and Zappa brought him in and had him double MANY of the solo's... not all of them... but many... and this is one of them. Deathless Horsie is another. All of the Shut up songs (some more and return of the son of) Pinocchio's Furniture, and some others. Trust me... it's a fact. He was not in those bands, but he overdubbed on those albums.
@@Royale_with_Cheeze I don't know if you're talkinbg to me... but I didn't say Steve played stunt guitar on Deathless Horsie... however... he told ME PERESONALLY... that he doubled Frank's lead... now you can beleive mer... I believe Steve... or you don't beleive me... actually...I don't give a fuck. But I'm not gonna repeat this again... Steve is on songs that he is not credited for DOUBLING Frank's solos. Not playing stunt guitar....I repeat for the last time...DOUBLING Frank's guitar...not live... in the studio... on LIVE songs....YEARS after they were recorded with other guitarists.Whether you want to accept it or not.
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I think that what makes this song truly great is the soft and sweet melody in the background, which is nothing like the solo. It creates a juxtaposition that meshes so well, even though the sounds are so dissimilar. Thanks for reacting in the way I hoped or actually intended. After watching you two doing reactions for quite a while now, I have a pretty good idea what will resonate with you, and it makes me feel good when I give you a song that you really like. 🤟
Downright masterful guitar solo. Thanks for suggesting this Peter. I'll be adding this to my playlist also! 😎
A beautiful melodic Frankie solo less the sloppy at times,snare polyrhythms of Vinnie. Boy,Vince really overkilled some of the "air sculpturing" snare,dropping this guitar solo masterpiece from a 10 to about an 8,if some of you children(Fenwick,bwana,etc) "declined not to notice",as Frank would say.😉
No wonder Colaiuta only lasted another 4 months(with a very short stint return end of 80). The rest of the 79 tour canceled.
@@Royale_with_Cheeze Interesting how musical idiots like yourself,who probably grew up not priviledged enough for Daddy to buy a piano ,and pay for a few lessons , but now trying to save face by throwing in totally irrelevant insults on writing skills. Who cares about that,you idiot.
Well,since you're a mental idiot in music "cheese dik" I'm now overzealous with glee on your feeble payback where you try gutlessly to save face from your lack of ANY musical education or music knowledge. You're so limited musically r that you actually have no conception on how Frank created this solo ,musically. Recite to me what mode scale he was using? What key was he playing in?
No stupid, not the key to your car.
You can't hear the sloppy polyrhythms on Vinnie's snare, messing up this musical work of art? Why do think Frank fired Colaiuta after just 18 months? He wasn't going to pay him what he wanted. He wasn't worth it, fool. You like polyrhythmic snare 🥁 slop?
Don't you realize that Vinnie was a liability for Frank?
Couldn't agree more Peter, thanks!
@@globextradingsystemsllc1740…and yet:
“A (guitar) soloist choosing to work in this odd style ultimately winds up as a hostage -- he can go only as far into the 'experimental zones' as his rhythm section will allow him to go. The problem lies in the polyrhythms. The chances of finding a drummer, a bass player and a keyboard player who can conceive of those polyrhythms -- let alone identify them fast enough to play a complementary figure on the
moment, are not good. (The grand prize goes to Vinnie Colaiuta, the drummer for the band in 1978 and '79.)"
- Frank Zappa, The Real Frank Zappa Book
Frank seems to differ big time ;)
I attended the third show of the 1980 tour and Frank opened with this blistering solo. Hearing it live was so powerful that my friend siting next to me just looked at me opened mouthed at the end of the song !
Chunga Robbie !
True Frank had the loudest guitar I ever heard in my life in 1981.
Lucky man
We bet, thanks for sharing William!
He opened the show with this in Glasgow in 1979. His playing was remarkable.
I own alot of Zappa albums, and I believe that I've spent more time listening to this than any other album. Not a bad piece on either disc. Should be required listening for all Zappa fans.
Reminds me again why he is my favorite guitar player!
... This is one Frank tune that actually brought tears to my eyes when I saw and heard it for the first time live, absolutely aggravatingly beautiful! ...
guys i'm so happy you finally came to this one! I remember, as a teenager, when I was frightened of something ahead of me, I would just listen to this song and it literally blew my anxieties away
I knew about Zappa way back in the 80s when I was growing up, but never really got into him until about ten years ago. I knew of his popular music, but when I began listening to all the other material he put out, as well as the interviews, I was beyond impressed. Sure, I don't always agree with what he has to say, nor do I like all his music, but you can't ignore his genius and his place in the music industry as one of our most important composers. RIP, genius.
Agreed! Thanks for sharing Frankincensed!
One of my favourite Zappa songs, I love so much of his stuff but this is pretty special. The Pau concert version is particularly beautiful.
Rachel Flowers does a great version of this one.
The 2 words that Frank used work well to describe this tune.... "Statistical Density"
Being a genius like Frank was, is always going to piss some people off, usually the really dumb to be more precise...... this is an absolute masterpiece of Frank's virtuosity, loved your reactions guys, I could see Dan focusing on that guitar solo and experiencing bliss.....I don't know the real meaning behind the title but I always like to think it's aimed at our beloved governments!! Thanks for yet more incredible content you two....
Thanks Sonic Art!
I thought he was referring to Christians. "... by this treacherous cretin who tells everyone that he's Jesus' best friend."
Why people don't get it? I think it has something to do with listening skills. Some people struggle to find the back beat in 4/4, and any note outside the major scale is uncomfortable for them: anything that doesn't check those boxes is just noise. Therefore pop music.
He often opened the show with this solo for one of the tours, using a wireless system on his guitar so no lead. He started playing whilst offstage and you will notice at about 1 min 24 secs the applause as he walks onto the stage.
@The Kwaze - The clapping starts as Frank enters the stage and that is when Frank begins to play. He does not start playing offstage.
@@Frunobulax74 That doesn't even make sense? I saw him standing at the side off stage as he started playing prior to walking on.
@@TheKwaze - Your statement "you will notice at about 1 min 24 secs the applause as he walks onto the stage." The applause starts first, THEN Frank begins to play. Listen again.
@@TheKwaze - Here is the audience recording of the same show with Treacherous Cretins as the opener: th-cam.com/video/7b6zsAs3Hic/w-d-xo.html
@@Frunobulax74 Yep, and at 2mins 50 secs is when he walks onstage.
Chungarobbie! Massive zappa fanatic here. I've been learning the backing part to this, and boy is it fun to solo to!
This opened the Newcastle show 1979, with the band starting and then he started playing offstage and walked on still playing. He then introduced new guitarist Warren Cuccurullo as "Sophia Warren" and they launched into Dead Girls of London - L Shankar was in the program as being in the band, including a pic, but wasn't there. TC is an easier listen then a lot of his solos, but I love them all
Sifa nails the attitude of the Zappa detractors here, i reckon.
Great content guys.
Thanks.
Thanks for being here Bill!
Robby's run through of Chunga's Revenge with the amazing Zappa alumni Arthur Barrow and Sal Marquez is excellent. You should see it.
Ok great!
Sifa and Dan. Two legends people. 👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Greg❤️❤️!
Amazing solo
My top 5 album, if I want to listen to Zappa and can't decide this album always is the number one pick.
Probably played through it more the 1000 times.
The title is Frank being prophetic about his wife and children after his death!!!
Really like this though. Love the reggae all the way through. Being simplistic, it gives Frank licence to go off in any direction he wants in making his air sculptures. THis was from his string of concerts in London in 1979. I was there 2 days after this show. Frank had a bit of a love affair with reggae from here until he died, especially as he now he had a rhythm section he could trust. Love how Vinnie builds up throughout.
I told Joe this was OK, hope he gives it a fair shot, lol. Great reaction Dan and Sifa. Well done Peter, you can't go wrong '79 onwards 🙂
Thanks Paul!
One of my favourites. Lovely.
Thanks for listening Saturninebear!
You mentioned commenters who are Zappa fans, to which I want to say I'm glad someone is checking me. It does encourage me to dig for deeper less well-known artists and songs.
Thanks to them, I'm rediscovering other songs I loved and sharing them.
#chungarobbie
We’re glad you’re here Richie!
I love that you guys move on from one Frank Zappa song to the next one there's always going to be a next one
Check out Warren Cucurillo (sp?) playing Transylvania Boogie in a record store live. Just him and a drummer. Great rendition.
A lot of people can't get past his lyrics. I have loved his music since the first time I heard Freak Out.
Nice reaction!
Glad you enjoyed!
Right on again! Being so smart, Frank was a psychologist and did some tricks to provoke people who want to find reasons to feel offended (In this context, he would be in his element nowadays). Such are the ones that despise him/his music. But this here is something else, this so different from everything one can hear on God's great earth. So uniquely beautiful! Thank you!
@MrWaterpumpkin = As Frank would say on Bongo Fury at the end of the spoken intro to Muffin Man - "Nothing so exalted on the face of God's grey earth"
@@Frunobulax74 Exactly :)
Thanks for being here!
Frank Zappa used the phrase treacherous cretin to describe Pat Robinson on the 1988 world tour.
I have done some similar. A Crying Sky is from one of my song lyrics and I used for the title of an electronic piece of music I wrote. And it was deliberately written in a Zappa way!
Yo, Cats! Yo! Yo!
Chunga Robbie
If you do react to the Robbie Krieger version make it the live version with Zappa alum Arthur Barrow on bass.
@James Sharp - And Sal Marquez on trumpet. Can't forget Sal.
@@Frunobulax74 Right, thanks R.
Ok thanks James!
This is playing Modal.
One of those two-chord patterns he seemed to find really inspiring. Off the top of my head I can think of a couple of Treacherous Cretinses (pardon my Hobbit-speak) from 1979 that are even better than this - Pau, France (which is more aggressive) and Copenhagen (where he makes the guitar weep buckets)
chungarobbie!
The structure is quite close to Watermelons in Easter Hay, don’t you think? You have become old hands by now 🤗
He is not on an ego trip or full of himself
Chunga Robbie. I haven’t seen it either.
I think the Kreiger take is worth a listen.
❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎 Arabian reggae (he's not a hater, just a troll)
chunga robbie
Do you guys realize what scale is being used as the main scale? It’s a mode of the melodic minor scale, I think it’s the 4th , but I’m not sure, also you can’t play a pentatonic scale over this
Thanks Eddie!
The 'ol Ukranian Dorian!
Chunga Robbie…
with many of the tracks from SUAPYG you kind of get a twofor. In the sense that, as in this case, you are not only hearing the solo of Frank Zappa... but you are ALSO hearing Steve Vai playing every note of Zappa's solo--- note for note. It's hard to hear it, but if you listen carefully... you can hear Steve doubling everything Zappa plays here.
@@Royale_with_Cheeze I think what you're hearing is post-facto artificial-double-tracking - Sinister Footwear 3 is the only instance I know of where Steve doubled a Zappa solo. Refer to the Shut Up album's Notes & Comments pages on IINK, to settle any confusion.
@@Royale_with_Cheeze yes he is.
@@Royale_with_Cheeze Steve Vai is on MANY songs on Shut up And Play Yer Guitar but he is NOT CREDITED. He was too young to tour with Zappa, but he was transcribing ALL THOSE solos and Zappa brought him in and had him double MANY of the solo's... not all of them... but many... and this is one of them. Deathless Horsie is another. All of the Shut up songs (some more and return of the son of) Pinocchio's Furniture, and some others. Trust me... it's a fact. He was not in those bands, but he overdubbed on those albums.
@@Royale_with_Cheeze I don't know if you're talkinbg to me... but I didn't say Steve played stunt guitar on Deathless Horsie... however... he told ME PERESONALLY... that he doubled Frank's lead... now you can beleive mer... I believe Steve... or you don't beleive me... actually...I don't give a fuck. But I'm not gonna repeat this again... Steve is on songs that he is not credited for DOUBLING Frank's solos. Not playing stunt guitar....I repeat for the last time...DOUBLING Frank's guitar...not live... in the studio... on LIVE songs....YEARS after they were recorded with other guitarists.Whether you want to accept
it or not.
Thanks for the details Chris!
Such dubious fake reactors 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for watching!
For globewanker, Vinnie was chosen over Bozo because he was better. FACT!
Hahahaha. Globewanker. I love it.
Try the long version of this song 8:46 long . His guitar work on that version is ten times more masterful than this version