Google's social app failures explained

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  • @TechAltar
    @TechAltar  5 ปีที่แล้ว +468

    I have heard the feedback that you want me to change the music. We are currently working on new stuff, but it's taking longer than expected. Please be patient until then :)
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    • @slimshady8657
      @slimshady8657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which social media apps have you used?

    • @shaggar
      @shaggar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@slimshady8657 just bring the old music back that's all we want.

    • @AnirbanSantara
      @AnirbanSantara 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yes, the new music is aweful :P Why did you even care to replace the first one? It was pretty darn good :)

    • @jimblue5008
      @jimblue5008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeess!! I'm looking forward to it. Very interesting topic in the video btw! Well done

    • @mate5171
      @mate5171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The first one was iconic I fell asleep with it and damn you changed it ))): This one is fine too but the iconic thing is gone

  • @thecianinator
    @thecianinator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    I've heard another thing not mentioned in this video that contributes hugely to Google's failures with social media apps. A social media app isn't just an app, it's a service, and services require continuous maintenance. Apparently, if you work at Google, you'll get promoted for creating successful software, but you won't get any rewards for maintaining it. As a result, ambitious youngsters in the company will create innovative pieces of software, get promoted to a higher pay grade, move on to bigger projects, and abandon their software. This leads to orphaned app after orphaned app. If Google doesn't fix their company structure and culture, they will continue to fail in this way.

    • @Logrouo
      @Logrouo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      thecianinator How long until Google management will realize this?

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Logrouo it's been this way for a decade and a half, it's the way they work, they will never change.

    • @bilibiliism
      @bilibiliism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Logrouo realizing something doesnt mean they can change it.google is too huge to steer

    • @rogerwilco2
      @rogerwilco2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A very good point.

    • @AugustusBohn0
      @AugustusBohn0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gracefool cool, I'd be curious to see how the internet might look post-google

  • @MrFeelGoodJson24YTP
    @MrFeelGoodJson24YTP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    2 years later...
    TechAltar: Why Google failed at having game streaming services?

    • @raphmateus
      @raphmateus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I believe it will succeed there. There is no widespread competitor to the upcoming Stadia. So if they pair Stadia (cloud gaming) with decent game streaming tools, they just win the market over from twitch etc.

    • @pbilk
      @pbilk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@raphmateus Uh, yes there is, in someways Microsoft's xCloud service. Stream games to any device. Even PlayStation Now is another competitor. Both of these have been announced either early 2019 or earlier.

    • @raphmateus
      @raphmateus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pbilk Those exist that is true. But none are as seamless as how Stadia looked during the presentation. Let's see when it actually rolls out into our hands. I think Stadia will be decent, and in the end it will depend as well on how good Google is at making deals. Exclusivity deals and games can win over people if done correctly. Stadia will be free (apparently) and you only need to purchase the game... If the only thing you need to start using Stadia is purchasing that exclusive game and you can still play on your favorite machine (ex: laptop). You'll be a Stadia client in no time. It will all depend if we can import games we already own from PS store, Steam etc. Or if we have to buy the title again. I have no idea about that

    • @TwighlightLugia
      @TwighlightLugia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Reading this comment after Stadia has already had its shitshow release is cathartic

    • @raphmateus
      @raphmateus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TwighlightLugia Stadia has released for pre-orders by people who can't even do a serious review. Wait for worldwide review. I don't care about a review saying their game lags when their connection is all over the place. Or people bitching about input latency on a first person shooter. Stadia is not for that right now. The only very few reviews of open world games and slow paced games came out mostly positive. And guess what, those are the games you can barely run on your current hardware. You need a 2080ti to run RDR2 smoothly at 4K60fps on max settings on a local system. With Stadia and a good connection you can run it on your PC, or 1080p/2k on your pixel phone or any rooted phone.
      Most are complaining without even thinking about what it really is. But people do that all the time. So your comment is even more petty.... I'm almost certain you don't even own Stadia Pre-order edition. :)
      For a person who has no console/gaming PC and has access to good internet. A decent gaming PC is quite expensive, the new gen consoles won't retail for 300$ :) probably the double of that. And they can use Stadia and purchase one, two games for 60-100$ and start playing at 1080p. Or get the subscription like you do already with PS plus, and you can stream 4K.
      The cost of entry is low, that's it.
      I already own a PC and console. Why would I waste my time bashing Stadia. It's not supposed to replace my current equipment. When I will face the choice between a new graphics card or console and Stadia... I will look at the games I want to play and see how they do in Stadia. If it's a First person shooter, I will not choose Stadia. If it's a demanding open world slow paced game. Stadia will be a good option. But remember. I can simply purchase one game to test it.
      I am not saying everyone should go ahead and purchase 10 games for stadia.
      At the end of the day, it depends what type of gamers you are.
      I am seeing a bunch of hardcore gamers complaining about Stadia when Stadia is a service for casual gamers. And understand that game purchases revenue is achieved with casual gamers while micro transactions revenue is achieved thanks to hardcore gamers. Stadia is only earning for the subscription and perhaps a part from the game purchase. It does not rely on hardcore gamers.

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1525

    Google+ was poorly designed. The user experience was confusing.

    • @rph_redacted
      @rph_redacted 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      I managed to get all my friends on it. They found the UI cool but confusing.

    • @inund8
      @inund8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That and as it launched Facebook locked down the ability to export your contacts list.

    • @TheJamieRamone
      @TheJamieRamone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      No it wasn't, ur talking out of ur ass.

    • @tophers3756
      @tophers3756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Only if you are coming from Facebook. From scratch it was no more confusing than starting Facebook. Plus the circle feature was great as it allowed someone to easily post to specific people and groups.

    • @HannuPulli
      @HannuPulli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      G+ worked well on small closed groups and its Events feature was good for organizing gatherings for said groups. Not good for marketing I suppose.

  • @iKingRPG
    @iKingRPG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1190

    I consider TH-cam and Gmail to be their future. Notice how much TH-cam has changed in the last 2 years.

    • @yuvananda
      @yuvananda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      and Maps

    • @akashagarwal829
      @akashagarwal829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      N lens n Pixel

    • @juliansargeant1422
      @juliansargeant1422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      And their search engine

    • @Paul_C
      @Paul_C 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      The amount of advertising is killing the model... thus TH-cam needs to be aware.

    • @csmemarketing
      @csmemarketing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      TH-cam has regressed in that time, because the leader there is a feminist who is easily bullied by outside forces, lies and smear-campaigns targeted at the users.

  • @fedor3000
    @fedor3000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    RCS WILL BE THE FUTURE ... of receiving codes on your phone for authentication when you forgot ur password to some service.

    • @kunkundalin
      @kunkundalin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      And spam marketing, don't forget that.

    • @Thanujam33ga
      @Thanujam33ga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sorry, but what’s the difference between RCS and iMessages? A tad confused about the two.

    • @FlexicoWyoming
      @FlexicoWyoming 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thanujam33ga good question

    • @iKingRPG
      @iKingRPG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Thanujam33ga imessage uses a internet connection to connect to Apple's servers. Rcs is a format that uses phone carriers like sms

    • @dee_fox
      @dee_fox 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mario do you even know how sms works?

  • @loekos
    @loekos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1408

    it kinda blows my mind that the US is still stuck with SMS

    • @heliakopter
      @heliakopter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +318

      @TheRealBandito but its lowkey much more expensive than just using cross platform chat apps which is why where i live sms is almost never used anymore even in business context.

    • @travisscavoni369
      @travisscavoni369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      @@heliakopter actually, at least in the US, cross-platform chat apps cost more to use because they use up data. SMS just needs a cellular connection.

    • @evoniics9572
      @evoniics9572 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Did they really use SMS or MMS? I mean SMS without picture, video and so on, in 2019?! ^^

    • @alexabihabib8215
      @alexabihabib8215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @TheRealBandito It seems that no matter what plan they have in other countries, data used on Facebook, WhatsApp, Snapchat etc doesn't count, so it's basically unlimited for social apps.

    • @Dragon-hl4pr
      @Dragon-hl4pr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Here in Poland we also have unlimited Messanger, WhatsApp and quite big data plans for resonable price.
      But in US in my opinion mobile companies don't care about free Messanger when most people use iMessages anyway

  • @mohamedrafiq3478
    @mohamedrafiq3478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    I’m still confused as to why this channel doesn’t have a million subs by now. One of the best channels on TH-cam now.

    • @beefbroth6539
      @beefbroth6539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Probably cz the subscribers have been sharing this channel's videos on Google Plus.

    • @siva2k23
      @siva2k23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@beefbroth6539 😅

    • @laurenz6231
      @laurenz6231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If he brings the old music back it will happen one day 😌

    • @RickyRisha410
      @RickyRisha410 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beef Broth Google Plus doesn't exist anymore

    • @DarkOracleOfDeath
      @DarkOracleOfDeath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because this channel has interesting content and your intelligence must be above average to comprehend it and a lot of people are simply stupid.
      Unfortunately, we who watch this kind of content are few.

  • @gaunterodimm3569
    @gaunterodimm3569 5 ปีที่แล้ว +460

    Telegram is literally the definition of an underdog!
    Not even a mention 😂

    • @yourbossdonpely
      @yourbossdonpely 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Gaunter O'Dimm telegram is mainly used for illegal activities all over the world. So they don't pop their heads out but they got millions of users

    • @gaunterodimm3569
      @gaunterodimm3569 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Your absolutely wrong mate!

    • @yourbossdonpely
      @yourbossdonpely 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Gaunter O'Dimm lmao 😂... U have no idea what telegram has been used for and what it's being used for as we speak. U're obviously in a bubble. The telegram I know hosts the biggest ponzi groups, scam groups, credit card fraud stores, hacker groups, terrorist cell groups and so many more 🤣😂

    • @yourbossdonpely
      @yourbossdonpely 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Gaunter O'Dimm do ur research on telegram mate

    • @yourbossdonpely
      @yourbossdonpely 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@gaunterodimm3569 I've personally been on pirated movies groups, ponzi groups with over 90,000 members where over $10,000, 000 was eventually stolen, scam investment website groups and so many more. They are super groups and use an invite link to get in. You won't find them on the search lmao

  • @GabrielKaizer1
    @GabrielKaizer1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Orkut was HUGE in Brazil

    • @drac124
      @drac124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yet they killed it too. Google is stupid. They destroy their networks instead of improving.

    • @berzerius
      @berzerius 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      In India too. But Facebook took the users fast with better features.

    • @roninr8199
      @roninr8199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Not only Brazil even in India. There was no Facebook in India during 2004 and most of them didn't even know fb existed. Google just didn't take it seriously at all.

    • @Vstavayteludirusskiey
      @Vstavayteludirusskiey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Orkut-
      Brazil 45%
      India 35%
      US 12%
      Others 8%

    • @soulreaperichig0
      @soulreaperichig0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berzerius FB was definitely not better than Orkut. People switched only because of the network effect.

  • @KittyBoom360
    @KittyBoom360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    TH-cam is the only social platform that I ever use tho.
    So Google is winning with me.

    • @StingnB
      @StingnB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      TH-cam is amazing

    • @thomas-w8948
      @thomas-w8948 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      just youtube + reddi t for me these days

    • @quatie
      @quatie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And Instagram for me

    • @realsushrey
      @realsushrey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      TH-cam + Twitter + Facebook + Reddit + Whatsapp.
      Let me explian.
      Twitter- Follow celebrities.
      Reddit- Have discussions on Tennis, Chess, Monarchism etc.
      Whatsapp - Messaging
      Facebook- Family and friends.
      I really want Google to buy Twitter, so that my life becomes a TON simpler.

    • @Bulbophile
      @Bulbophile 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      YT a social space? More like choice TV. Nothing to regret not competing with zombie f fying fkbook

  • @AkashYadavOriginal
    @AkashYadavOriginal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Orkut was quite popular in India. It was just that Google at that time didn't care much about improving it. Slowly Facebook kept eating their userbase. By the time Google realized it, Orkut was dead.

    • @joaobenin
      @joaobenin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same in Brazil. It was honestly the best social network I've ever used. Facebook was a poor replacement imo, but everyone migrated anyway.

    • @shashemption
      @shashemption 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Orkut is my childhood

  • @Root174
    @Root174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    It's a shame Google+ had failed. I feel it was quite intuitive with how you organised people into groups: just drag and drop people into circles and then decide which of those circles become "Your circles" (a default group with whom to share content). Deciding who gets to see your content was rather easy that way.

    • @xthebumpx
      @xthebumpx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It would have been nice if you could have created circles people could subscribe to. Like "click here to join my politics circle that I share political posts with" instead of trying to figure out what people to add to what content on your own.

    • @tessat1693
      @tessat1693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      xdmx that was an option though..

    • @NateO123
      @NateO123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not a shame, they deserved it. Nobody needed it. They straight up tried to force people into their platform by requiring it in order to interact on youtube. Fuck them for that stupid shit.

    • @goldmathshow
      @goldmathshow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xthebumpx is that different from facebook group? or subreddit?

  • @ternvall
    @ternvall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've heard the Google-career-model is the main reason for their quick rotation of making new and discarding old apps.

  • @Krish_krish
    @Krish_krish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I never knew Google+ was meant to be an alternative to Facebook lol. I just thought it was like an extension or something to Gmail 😂

    • @iKingRPG
      @iKingRPG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was both

  • @ffccardoso
    @ffccardoso 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    TH-cam has soooo many space to grow as a social media ..
    even the basic things like #hashtag are poorly implemented

    • @ixalaz4536
      @ixalaz4536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So the most important thing now is hashtags? Creators are getting constantly demonetized, whilst other people are copying videos or botting views and subs with no punishment. Also TH-cam is busy in any case, they have to deal with _important_ issues like removing sub counts (which they fucked up and people have 0 subs).

    • @NoName-zr7rz
      @NoName-zr7rz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ixalaz4536 No, it just is something easy

    • @ffccardoso
      @ffccardoso 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@One.Zero.One101 the sooner the best! The monopoly isn't good for anyone but the owner.

  • @fritzkier
    @fritzkier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Google, just make a goddamn iMessages competitor, please.
    Basically RCS but with a Google servers, not carriers. We already know carrier sucks at technologies advancement. So, please...

    • @prateeksharma1902
      @prateeksharma1902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I want this too.
      They have all the ingredients.
      But they still make bullshit from the ingredients.

    • @rph_redacted
      @rph_redacted 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They tried with Allo which was p neat imo. But didn't add SMS support so it failed.

    • @fritzkier
      @fritzkier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rph_redacted yeah, I'm kinda pissed off Allo was killed by Google.

    • @prateeksharma1902
      @prateeksharma1902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rph_redacted Allo was awesome.
      The problem came in people being pushed to the ecosystem.

    • @speckart989
      @speckart989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out "Google Messages".

  • @in7minutesorless
    @in7minutesorless 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Google meet: *laughs in covid19*

  • @garritorious7587
    @garritorious7587 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On iPhone, SMS is bolstered by seeing all recent messages in the notification and very underrated animations and sound in sending and receiving messages

  • @wonderowl530
    @wonderowl530 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, that ending with confronting not being able to convey the ad convey the ad so nicely.

  • @trollbreeder2534
    @trollbreeder2534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3 Rules of Social Media:
    1. Do not make knots. Don't force people to make an account for your thing if you're using a different thing. Example: Dont force people to make a google+ account in order to comment on youtube.
    2. Do not be redundant. Be interesting, be something unique, not just facebook clone #55.
    3. The user experience must be good. If it feels like the site is working against you, it's bad.

    • @pzaikis
      @pzaikis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their uniqueness was that you had a single "Google" profile across all their services. It was actually quite brilliant.

  • @JS05
    @JS05 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I live in portugal and we majorly use whatsapp and messenger but we still use sms for some messages because we arent always online

  • @quatie
    @quatie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I actually liked G Plus, thought it looked nicer than Facebook.

  • @camillatruquesdebeleza7086
    @camillatruquesdebeleza7086 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just came here to say that your channel is amazing, the videos are beautifully edited and I love your content

  • @dhavalshah1146
    @dhavalshah1146 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make some really high quality tech videos! Love them!!

  • @arfuzzaman
    @arfuzzaman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Old intro music plz.
    Thanks for supporting for old music
    And thanks for likes

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The old music was iconic... TechAlter just won't be the same without it...

    • @yobama8344
      @yobama8344 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Big +1

  • @DocTime56
    @DocTime56 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You didn't mention BBM on the messaging apps. It was pretty big back in the day, and it has been encrypted since long ago

    • @limariooppa6169
      @limariooppa6169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Only big in south east asia mostly, and canada. Other parts of the world never even heard of it.

    • @diegobarthalot7095
      @diegobarthalot7095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was huge in Argentina, and latín América from 2008-2012

    • @risannd
      @risannd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was once popular in Indonesia, but the server is abroad at its peak, causing message delays. By the time they build the server here, it's already too late. Realizing the market is shrinking, BlackBerry decided to sell BBM to Emtek, an Indonesian company. They added stickers, online shopping, online payment and stuff. Nevertheless, it's still failing, so they decided to shut it down completely this year.

  • @galenblack8321
    @galenblack8321 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, insightful and well thought out. Keep up the great work.

  • @secretaryofeveryhottie
    @secretaryofeveryhottie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still remember when i had 9y/o and i had an account on G+, my acc was full of anime vocaloid, i didnt joined any grps cuz i didnt know that's there's groups there, but i really had fun with my friends from different countries, talking about anime and different topics, i miss these day, thanks to google for delete this beautiful social media :)

  • @LukeGaughan
    @LukeGaughan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is pure speculation, but I don't think Google know how to hire product people. They have the best engineers but they need better product managers.

    • @SA-zq7fz
      @SA-zq7fz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Basically anyone who has imagination, google has knowledge but without imagination all that power is useless

  • @andrew_bermudez
    @andrew_bermudez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video! Can’t wait for the next one.

  • @games1250
    @games1250 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your vids! And the topics are always on point ^_^

  • @IndieSamurai101
    @IndieSamurai101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Top notch video as always!
    Pls revert back to the old intro music....the present one sucks.

  • @Poo0fi
    @Poo0fi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Unrelated but I’m still hurting from Reader suddenly being killed off.

  • @jayeshsuryawanshi213
    @jayeshsuryawanshi213 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keen elaboration as always! Keep it up 💪

  • @AR2R5
    @AR2R5 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best tech information channel in youtube. And again - this was so interesting for me even thou I thought that I knew a lot about google. Well.. Not as much as I think I knew. Keep it up!!!!

  • @borealfox
    @borealfox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Google Duo is awesome too. The quality of the sound and the video is awesome, the design of the app is beautiful and it's actually pre-installed in every Android (7.0 and up) so, you can contact people more easily.

  • @virendrakamble4210
    @virendrakamble4210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Please bring back the very first background music you used to have.

    • @laurenz6231
      @laurenz6231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was called Tarantulas by Christian Nanzell

    • @virendrakamble4210
      @virendrakamble4210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laurenz6231 it went very well with his content.

    • @otis3744
      @otis3744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if rcs was made 10 years ago, it would have been the most dominant thing ever, literally whatsapp and the likes wouldn't even exist... i can imagine it, bein able text people right on my sms app without having to pay the unbelievable bills

  • @weekay0018
    @weekay0018 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You deserve more subs bro! Keep it up 💪

  • @ankur.vloggs
    @ankur.vloggs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best thing about your channel is like unlike other tech communicators who only live in the United States Bubble, you actually talk about other parts of the world. Hopefully you will make a story behind series on WeChat and how it has become a mega app. It is the culmination of Facebook, WhatsApp, Chrome, Didi/Uber, TH-cam, Feedly, Telegram, Skype, PayTM/PayPal and what not. Not to mention the mini programs section which literally has everything from a stopwatch to a metronome. As far as Google goes, it could have bought whatsapp but again was late. If they bought whatsapp and integrated it with their google services like Google pay, drive and photos it could have been a wechat competitor of some sort..

  • @garritorious7587
    @garritorious7587 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s weird how the US and Australia treat SMS. In Australia SMS and iMessage is more seen as the proper messaging service. A lot of my friends have other messaging services but we often use SMS because it feels more personal. You don’t want a possible partner’s Facebook username or Line or Wechat IDs you want their phone number for your default messenger. In my experience.

    • @Root174
      @Root174 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      WhatsApp actually uses your phone number to sign up. During the process, you add a name for yourself and (optionally) a photo. For others, you can choose what their name will be since it synchronises with your phone's contacts.

    • @garritorious7587
      @garritorious7587 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Root as does most other messaging services but the reason for their number is still primarily to SMS or iMessage

    • @Root174
      @Root174 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garritorious7587 Sure, but I was referring to the last bit in your comment about how you feel that SMS is more personal, because it uses people's phone number.
      Other messaging services can be just as personal. I'd argue that it can be even more personal, because you get to choose things like a custom name, photo etc. Not to mention how in countries where such services are the norm, phone numbers are not primarily used for phone calls or SMS.

  • @migueldomingos4570
    @migueldomingos4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Google meets is going pretty well in 2020! I would dare say they are the second best videoconferencing app after Zoom!

  • @ogabrielcasanova
    @ogabrielcasanova 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orkut was gigant here in Brazil! It even had a cable tv program called "Orkut Live" where musicians and bands would do interviews and you could get emblems in the site.

  • @aristosplayer1573
    @aristosplayer1573 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can safely say that this is the best skillshare add I've ever seen! gj

  • @peepleep7931
    @peepleep7931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Orkut was my first and fav social media tho

    • @bdxoul
      @bdxoul 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      mine too

  • @AbhishekNag666
    @AbhishekNag666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    To be fair RCS feels like another TOOL/UTILITY product rather than a Social platform solution.
    And yes, nobody in India uses SMS for chatting. Only Bank, UPI and other financial messages get delivered via SMS and maybe some other official organizational messages.
    There was a time when mobile carriers used to sell SMS packs and bundles but unfortunately that was 10-15 years ago.

    • @jaykrishnak3268
      @jaykrishnak3268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. SMS is extremely rarely used for communication. WhatsApp is king here and telegram is probably second place.

  • @yesvee7377
    @yesvee7377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I waited for this video for a long time!

  • @eksmad
    @eksmad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Du machst mit die besten Videos!

  • @MrKamikaze1337
    @MrKamikaze1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    > Talks about how google is not good with social media
    > Forgot to mention orkut was the #1 social media in Brazil and India and is a Google Product.

  • @liranpiade4499
    @liranpiade4499 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RCS is a bad system BECAUSE it uses carriers.
    They COULD cost extra. If not as RCS, then at least if SMS/MMS fallback (which will be the case almost constantly due to incompetent carriers) is in use.

  • @tiagodiasferreira6827
    @tiagodiasferreira6827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe you forgot to mention that Google had the Social Media leadership with Orkut in it's peak. Orkut was a mark in Brazil's internet history, and I think that Orkut's impact could be better explored and why it lost the battle against Facebook in the 2010's.

  • @Irnbruist
    @Irnbruist 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    really smart high quality content, thanks!

  • @CBTvideos
    @CBTvideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my god I remember how much I fell in love with Orkut just as it was its last few days, can't remember weather it was Google bought it and planned to put utilise it elsewhere like Picasa or something..
    Oh and Buzz! 😂😂 I remember it, iGoogle? Anyone? Having your own cool custom Google page with backgrounds and widgets.
    See G+ was amazing at first, I tried getting all the lads to move over and have hangouts for our group chat instead of WhatsApp, since we all had Gmail and YT, we all had to change our numbers to avoid paying for WhatsApp but in the end, they didn't want it, they just didn't feel it and over the years G+ simply became a dumping ground for YT posts, explicit photos EVERYWHERE and trash in general, it's a shame, it seems they can never get it right.

    • @thegardenofeatin5965
      @thegardenofeatin5965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used iGoogle until the bitter end. A google search bar, my gmail inbox, a quick news feed, a weather synopsis, and a pleasant background that reacted to the time of day. iGoogle was my last homepage; when it shut down, I stopped using home pages entirely.

    • @CBTvideos
      @CBTvideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegardenofeatin5965 I used to love it, I'd 'wow' my friends with it every time haha
      Of course home pages would never be the same.
      Shame they shut things down that are great, like recently inbox for gmail.

  • @realsushrey
    @realsushrey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Buy Twitter ASAP before it gets too expensive. Problem solved.

    • @realsushrey
      @realsushrey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Crim Sin Not as easy as that. The reason why Twitter and Facebook look immortal is that it is very hard to make people migrate. I think Google now believe TH-cam to be their social media platform.

  • @markhaus
    @markhaus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's scary how much just 4 ~ 6 companies dominate not just our technical lives but increasingly the public commons

  • @SuperCaioshin
    @SuperCaioshin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orkut was extremely popular in Brazil, it was like the slums of social media, but it was the best we had and it was fun.

  • @iamvmsulthan
    @iamvmsulthan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Well i thought the hangout and Google + would be the oldest project among all the social platform

  • @etorawa9367
    @etorawa9367 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We need a decentralized messaging app, on a p2p platform.

  • @oplante
    @oplante 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the nice vid man!!

  • @Human_Decoy
    @Human_Decoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good sponsor introduction, seemed genuine

  • @CEKROM
    @CEKROM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:40 and Telegramm , Signal =D

  • @random-accessmemory9201
    @random-accessmemory9201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good bye, TH-cam Messages. 🤣😂

  • @deepakmt92
    @deepakmt92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still use rely on SMS for bank and network related communications. SMS is really useful while traveling. To receive OTP, SMS is still required.

  • @sorchacrabhan5937
    @sorchacrabhan5937 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our school uses teams and it unifies the departments as each department used to use their own service (doddle, moodle, my maths, edmodo etc) and now everything's connected

  • @JDara1
    @JDara1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait you telling me that I can use RCS when my carrier balance is 0 and I dont have internet on my phone?

    • @JDara1
      @JDara1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lumi a shit...

  • @iKingRPG
    @iKingRPG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where I live emails and smart are still the industry standard especially for business
    We use internet chats for fun
    Edit: I meant "SMS" not "smart"

    • @fuseteam
      @fuseteam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wait "smart"? wut o.O

    • @iKingRPG
      @iKingRPG 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fuseteam oh I met SMS. I'll fix it

    • @fuseteam
      @fuseteam 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iKingRPG oh my

  • @PukMaxi
    @PukMaxi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man! 😁

  • @C4Fernandez
    @C4Fernandez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you've mentioned Google focussing on business oriented apps, my mind jumped straight to project management. So far, G-Suite and Google Drive overall lacks a seamless project management experience from my use with these services. Other than making spreadsheets and group email listings, there's not much you can do that offers an experience like other project management services like Monday.com or Trello.
    I'm making do with Google Drive, Notion, OpenProject and Wave as my apps of choice for project management and self-accounting but it would be nice if Google had better proprietary apps that intergrate with Google Calendar, Docs, Drive, etc.

  • @zaneearldufour
    @zaneearldufour 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you haven't, could you do a story behind on how github became such a massive success? (compared to other similar platforms like bit bucket, gitlab etc.)

  • @hridayeshsharma539
    @hridayeshsharma539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you make a video on how Facebook is able to rule over social media platform. Anyway I don't think chat can ever beat slack. Teams can but not chat.

    • @nadeemshaikh7863
      @nadeemshaikh7863 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @hridayeshsharma539
      @hridayeshsharma539 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nadeemshaikh7863 I have used chat and slack both. And slack has a lot more features compared to chat.

    • @nadeemshaikh7863
      @nadeemshaikh7863 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hridayeshsharma539 Yeah, but why would Google not catch up with slack and beat it in the Enterprise market?

    • @hridayeshsharma539
      @hridayeshsharma539 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nadeemshaikh7863 Man did you even watch the video. He explains it well why Google is failing at it.

    • @nadeemshaikh7863
      @nadeemshaikh7863 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hridayeshsharma539 yeah, I saw that but you didn't explain why can't Google beat slack when G Suite is becoming so damn popular. Why?

  • @DrakiniteOfficial
    @DrakiniteOfficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a video that's about something besides smartphones! I love it!
    Seriously, dude, great video. I don't know what to say except I loved it. This is the type of content I subscribed for! ❤️

    • @TechAltar
      @TechAltar  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really glad to hear!

  • @bianval158
    @bianval158 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another example: Google Trips. It's a great app for backpackers and people who travel a lot. I have used it so much... And I have built all my trips, selected places, made my itineraries and history there. So much information about my trips, it's organized like a travel book (you know like when you collect maps and flyers... Google Trips is like a digital souvenir for me, saving information of places I've been to). Google announced it will be shut down in a month. Kind of annoying.

  • @BitSpartan
    @BitSpartan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i miss orkut
    i guess it was more famous here in brazil than in the rest of the world

    • @___dyego
      @___dyego 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eu fiquei sem entender quando ele ignorou o Orkut kkkkk

    • @___dyego
      @___dyego 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Talvez tenha sido mt popular aqui no Brasil mesmo, n sei

    • @BitSpartan
      @BitSpartan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      exato

    • @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
      @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi5 também

    • @ffccardoso
      @ffccardoso 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      se eles tivessem lançado o google+ como um Orkut 2 no Brasil, e importado contatos e comunidades, já ia ser um incentivo grande pra muita gente aderir

  • @macoud12
    @macoud12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That graphic at 1:21 is incorrect, Hangouts is still alive. Not many people use it anymore though due to the shutdown of Google+.

    • @garruscalibrates2333
      @garruscalibrates2333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's shutting down in October...
      Source: arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/01/the-great-google-hangouts-shutdown-begins-october-2019/

  • @ManishSingh-wl5ey
    @ManishSingh-wl5ey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Your Videos

  • @uzunami810
    @uzunami810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss Google+. It was one of the few social media platforms where you could actually make friends

    • @jonathano503
      @jonathano503 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tsynami Definitely true, I made friends with an entire trolling community. Good times

    • @spicycracker7828
      @spicycracker7828 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean there's always *Facebook*
      it's almost a social requirement for most people under 60 to have a FB now
      if you have a huge "friend's list" but are only really friends with like 10% of them... then that's on you and perhaps you need to do a little 'spring cleaning'

  • @rupeshverma9536
    @rupeshverma9536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Orkut could be the Facebook of this era but it died bcz of Google's own mistake

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent6937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SMS is popular in the U.S. because it works with 100% of phones. Each of those mentioned apps only work on

  • @pepite-5760
    @pepite-5760 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey @TechAlter Which courses did you try from skillshare for creating a messaging app?
    Thanks in advance

  • @maruskalazar8655
    @maruskalazar8655 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely explained!!

  • @sayanmalakar8438
    @sayanmalakar8438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Thank god they failed. I really don't want to send more of my data to Google.
    That company is so immature that they're actively blocking New Edge from accessing their services (meet, docs and drive).

    • @Toblehrone
      @Toblehrone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They aren't actively blocking Edge from accessing services - it's been said they just have an "allow" list that they haven't updated yet. However, Google is notorious for crippling non-Chromium browsers like Firefox and Edge (to the point that Edge had to switch browser engines). At least Google doesn't have control over the entire internet, but it's insane how they're tricking people into thinking that Firefox and Edge are slow by crippling their speeds. I find it sad that they've forced Edge to surrender and become yet another Chromium browser thanks to these anti-competitive tricks.

    • @AbhishekNag666
      @AbhishekNag666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      But you would rather send your data to Facebook by using FB and WhatsApp. 😂😂
      Bro, Google uses your data for making money, true, but they can be considered as a far lesser evil when you look at offenders like Facebook and Snap. Specially leakage of data, and data breaches and malpractices of securing confidential data. SMH

    • @nikunjbedia9398
      @nikunjbedia9398 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dustojnikhummer Ok sorry I was wrong.
      (Deleting my original reply)

  • @RediscoveryChannel2021
    @RediscoveryChannel2021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We use the Google suite at work. I really like it, including Hangouts.

    • @kunkundalin
      @kunkundalin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you prefer it over Microsoft Office?

  • @saczeke
    @saczeke 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video....what about GoogleVoice (which was Grand Central when they acquired it long ago)...not a "social" app per se, but...?

  • @Chronicler92
    @Chronicler92 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss the older jingle which played at the episode introductions! Bring it back please, Martin! :( :(

  • @DA-bm2mj
    @DA-bm2mj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    do Americans even know what an "SMS" is? lol
    it seems like they call it "text messages"

  • @Thewinner312
    @Thewinner312 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hangouts is no failure, though. It is heavily used by businesses in combination with the general G-Suite. And it's awesome! :-)

    • @user-ep8ss5gj3u
      @user-ep8ss5gj3u 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not everyone works in big company.

    • @kunkundalin
      @kunkundalin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is it for personal use?

    • @AsphaltAntelope
      @AsphaltAntelope 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kunkundalin Unreliable. Notifications on iPhone/Android don't always work.

    • @2hedz77
      @2hedz77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have never had issues with notifications but I know ppl who have. Otherwise it is pretty basic...looks like an app from 5 years ago. But I do think there are companies using it. My brothers whole company ...quite large ...uses g suite and Hangouts extensively. Leaves much to be desired tho.

    • @Thewinner312
      @Thewinner312 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2hedz77 Quite the contrary, I don't know of a chat product that is as advanced as hangouts. Let me explain. Where Hangouts really shines is integration. You have it in Gmail, so you don't need an extra window/application for chat. But more importantly it is integrated with calendar. Every event in your calendar automatically has a hangouts meeting. So there is no struggle, of who starts a video call, then invites everyone, etc. Every meeting automatically has one. It gets even better, because there is also meeting room hardware that lets you hook up TVs in meeting rooms to G-Suite. When you book a meeting room for a calendar event, the TV in that room is automatically aware of the hangouts call for that meeting, so you when you get to the meeting room you only need to click one button and you automatically have the correct video call running on that screen. No laptops required, but you can just use the link in the calendar to share your laptop screen into that meeting. I currently don't know of any competitor who has such features, especially if you are already using G-Suite anyway.

  • @vgamesx1
    @vgamesx1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well as a more personal experience reason why I didn't use hangouts is that it was a little basic/bare bones compared to some other solutions, it didn't seem to always work right such as sometimes not receiving a notification on a new message, even worse yet is they had no dedicated desktop app as they wanted it to run purely as a web app in your browser and as you mentioned they like to quickly kill off things that don't get their desired level of attention which is always rather annoying when you find a piece of software you do like, so no thanks google I'll stick with what's already good like discord or something free/open source that can't just be killed off.

  • @ClickLikeAndSubscribe
    @ClickLikeAndSubscribe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought @9:50 the pitch would be for "this great new platform that automatically writes a user agreement and privacy policy, and can adjust for GDPR"

  • @indianajones5929
    @indianajones5929 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They never had coding abilities. Its just government backed funds and buying already successful projects like TH-cam. Their social app attempts were riddled with exploits and lack of user friendly interface

  • @jonathanfriedel
    @jonathanfriedel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    TH-cam has been poisoned by Google. Most of my clients are looking for alternatives to TH-cam.

  • @carbon89
    @carbon89 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A story behind series on DJI would be awesome to watch.

  • @mLevyks
    @mLevyks 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey, orkut was VERY popular in brazil, in the end of it they headquartes came to here, as the majority of the users were brazilians

  • @fen0221
    @fen0221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Because NO ONE asked for it and they forced us to use it. Basically that’s gugle always have been

  • @Amar-pu3ph
    @Amar-pu3ph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    But Google Dou (vedio calling) is somewhat succesfull!!

  • @TheEuropeanFox
    @TheEuropeanFox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have RCS and I had no idea ..

  • @fmaz1952
    @fmaz1952 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a google+ account. I didn't even know where to go to open it. They wanted to integrate it so much it became abstract.

  • @AbderrahmenBesbes
    @AbderrahmenBesbes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i personnaly still use Hangout (and i like it :/ )

    • @wildcard6895
      @wildcard6895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Abderrahmen Besbes me too

    • @TracertGaming
      @TracertGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your stupid

    • @Mkrabs
      @Mkrabs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TracertGaming stopid*

    • @PukMaxi
      @PukMaxi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mkrabs stoopid*

  • @getabhirup
    @getabhirup 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thoroughly enjoyed this

  • @moazfikry3156
    @moazfikry3156 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So impressive
    Thank you for the content

  • @AchwaqKhalid
    @AchwaqKhalid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    🗣️🔊 *BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO LISTEN TO THEIR PEOPLE*