Ivan, Ivana and Borca in 5th Edition - Ravenloft Lore
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- Explore the Domain of Borca as presented by Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft, and the new version of its Dark Lords Ivan Dilisnya and Ivana Boristsi.
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Hey thanks so much for the mention! May the light if Ezra ever shine upon you.
I have to say, while i do love Borca from 2e post grand conjuntion, I still appriciate Borca being seperte from Dorvinia.
But it does make an interesting story for them to be co-darkloards.
Your video on the Book of Revelations of the Prince of Twilight is amazing! Everybody should take a look!
@@HouroftheRavenit really is awesome, thanks for recommending Ravenlore's channel.
Thx for the video Gabriel! Always a pleasure to go back to ravenloft to hear these stories!
Thanks! Glad you like it!
I have to say the whole portrayal of Ivan was one of the most insulting things about 5e Ravenloft
Poor Ivan. He really got bad luck in the new book.
They totally gutted my favorite darklord.
I dig the magic the gathering art sprinkled throughout the video. I've been wanting to do youtube videos about dnd lore for a while now. I came across the 2000 printing of Ravenloft, 3e and was thinking of doing a deep dive, but I wasnt sure how well it would be received
Thanks, glad you like the video. You should do the videos. Ravenloft doesn't have the larger fan base as some other settings, but we have passionate fans of the setting.
It was a nice touch to build this mistery about Old Ilvin. What might have transpired there so everyone left it's ruins as they were...?
No idea. It might have something to do with the Joungler, since the new road [or the old one, who knows] is called the Joungler's Way.
Honestly Borca is one of the best redesigns in the 5e book. I wish more of them had been like this one.
My favorite from 5e is I'Cath, but the original one is one of the worst domains... There are good ideas on new Borca that can futher developed.
@@HouroftheRavenhave you covered the new I'cath yet?
This exemplifies my issue with the new Ravenloft
Its not that the new domains are bad. Far from it. But they also miss out on what the made the old domains work. I feel like they should have kept the core and made these revised domains their own separate things.
Ravenloft should have been big enough for both.
This is a good idea. Why rewrite existing domains if they will be completely different from previous versions? The Mists of Ravenloft could easily house new Domains of Dread, especially if they are all isolated as VRgtR establishes them.
Wow, a 5th edition domain that doesn't totally suck lol.
I think i still prefer the original Borca but this is by far the best of the rebooted domains, IMHO at least..
Understand why your covering the new donains but I still say the original is better overall.
It has some interesting themes and ideas. I still prefer the classic version, but I could incorporate some proposals.
@@HouroftheRaven I liked your idea of using the new characters as other nobles in the classic domain.
¡Gracias!
Thanks a lot Javier!
I gotta wonder how many more of these are there? I feel like you're usually much happier with the campaign setting videos and your own custom content.
But, to your question, I'd use both as new NPCs. I like your suggestions for New Ivana. I might make New Ivan as an unhinged man obsessed with Ivan... one who unnerves the Darklord but still appeals to Ivan's bloated ego.
In total the 5th edition domains are 17... But I will only cover them after I have covered the classic. This one is from the domains I had already previously covered before the new book. From this lot the only one left is Kartakass.
@@HouroftheRavenIt begs the question, how many have you done so far?
@@docnecrotic I have done 8 from the 5e. Falkovnia, Richemulot, Mordent, Dementlieu, Valachan, Barovia, Hazlan and Borca. 9 domains if you consider the video of the House of Lament, that had both versions of the domain. After Kartakass, I will return to 5e after a domain that has a 5th edition counterpart, like Lamordia, Darkon, or Harakir.
@@HouroftheRaven I'm looking forward to the kartakass video
Those two got so gutted. To be nice I'll say that maybe this Ivan might've worked if he was an original character with his own domain and different name, but there wasn't much to do with this version. Ivana fared better, but why is she now some asexual who hates love? It's like taking Garfield the Cat and making him a health nut who hates the taste of pasta.
I said it before, but I like to joke that nu-Ravenloft is heterophobic given how any mention of straightness (except Wilfred) is either gotten rid of, one of the lovers is dead, or they're made gay.
Both Darklords deserved better. Some have interesting new ideas that could be better developed, perhaps into new characters. In fact, I seem to remember an interview with one of the Ravenloft lead designers, reinforcing how they have abandoned the harmful stereotypes from previous Ravenloft, and that in this new Ravenloft would be hard to find a straight character in the mists. I don't mind the diversity and a more inclusive take, I just wish it were created on new darklords and domains, instead of replacing the old ones. It is not like the Demiplane of Dread and the mists are out of space to harbor the new concepts presented.
@@HouroftheRaven I told a bisexual friend of mine about this and he felt the whole thing was condescending. As one myself, I don't blame him.
Sorry, but 5e is _still_ not Ravenloft.
Amen brother.
Having said that I do think 5e borca sucks less than most of them.
for me the %E ravenloft had a lot of cool ideas.
But they also were ideas that had little to nothing of what made the original domains work. They were completely divorced from their predecessors except in names. Should have made them their own thing from the start.
The only exception was Tepest which at least presented the interesting idea of what if one of the hags had betrayed her sisters.
But over all the book was a lot of potential with little pay off.
@@booley I hadn't heard about Tepest, that does sound like an interesting premise..
@@booley - 5e writers are not creative, all they can do is corrupt the work of others. They immediately set out to race- and/or gender-swap all the Darklords, and made their allegorical Sherlock Holmes gay and crippled. They have zero creativity between them, and I'm glad they're all fired.
Of course, they still didn't fire all their "sensitivity readers," so we can expect more of the same, from the next crop of hacks.