These weapons feel almost the same. Similar unload and reload mechanics, similar damage output, different effect types only. With sharpshooter perk Hammer is overall the winner and a better choice for most case scenarios. I must say though I still prefer Puncher due to one important reason (one reason that Hammer lacks). Can anyone guess what it is?
Also additional info worth a mention: -puncher loads the mothership WAY faster -hammers have the benefit of ignoring physical shields and can deal damage through very thin cover if the enemy is leaned against it -blast ignores many defenses, making the hammer better at dealing with enemies that have a lot of damage reduction like titans, khepris, or hawk/harpy/siren in flight For me makes it a real hard pick for the heavy slot on my fenrir, especially as I run a paralysis drone on it so hammer/mace alone can lockdown reliably... Its a choice between an overall more reliable weapon against high defense mech, and the ability to spam the everliving crap out of my Northlight
this is debatable to be honest. and they seem very similar, but overall i would go puncher. hammer is good in packs, but if you have just 2, they're unreliable in terms of effect accumulation
@@AYGIR and yea, you're right, puncher charges orbital strikes much faster, i've noticed a common trait tho, all shotgun type weapons have some issues charging orbital strikes, even sonics are not that fast (not as slow as storm tho), hammer has potential, i tried using an hybrid on my hawk, replacing cudgel with scald while keeping hammer, it seems to do a lot better, being able to keep blastcharge running helps the overall damage of the build
Great Video. Thanks for the testing. I know the hammer on paper outperforms puncher in most scenarios, but actually playing them in game, puncher is much more consistent for me than hammer. And puncher fills the mothership up so quickly, it seems like ever 2 magazines I have another mothership, which comes in handy. Great video as always 🦾😎🤜💚🤛 GGs on Adrian’s Stream
Thanks for the great information. I give the edge to the Puncher, because it builds the mother ship faster. I enjoyed the video very much. Players who enjoy War Robots should watch your videos. I learn a lot from your style of game play. You know, the little tricks that made you a better player. Thanks again
Have you tried a combination of the two? I've been running that and it works pretty well, but I didn't think of the lack of effect accumulation for the bomb effect.
good video thanks. in the last game i see your mother ship got stuck at 99% , happens to me to very frustrating. so on a Fenrir, would a puncher or a Hammer be better? what do you think?
The are both good like they this as intended. They have both good effects puncher has lock-down but it is countered by anti control but hammer has blast charge which is not countered but unless if you are a revenent. They have both good firepower the same reload
Both are good, So I would like to go with Puncher, cuz they kill tanks every sec, Hammer is good but its nuts do you remember last video of Hammer mk3 gameplay you just slayed 4 titans with more shots, TBH I agree with everyone who wants shotguns get nerfed.
Honestly I don’t think that the shotguns need the bomb effect. I feel like the recent trend for new weapons is high damage with effect, but why can’t it just be damage? The shotguns are already super powerful.
I recommend P over H strictly due to the lockdown which allows allies to help put enemy to sleep 💤 and hold back attackers in other scenarios... The area damage from H is good for hide-and-seek enemy bots but Kramola and it's cousins will bend a few corners and catch you eating your popcorn 🍿... the accumulate effects on P are paramount. #bigBANGhero [C-YA] on the battlefield commanders ✊🏿
Do it without sharpshooter. Hammers are bad. How do I know? Have 2 MK3 on Orochi? Is it worth it to promote a pilot and spend for a specific T4 skill for one weapon? Doubtful. Needs a buff so they are somewhat useable at average levels without spending thousands of gold. Unless it’s only intended for big spenders in which case I guess it’s fine.
It doesn't need a major buff though. In my opinion it only needs a better effect accumulation which will result in overall damage increase and a faster orbital support charge rate.
@@AYGIR yep! That’s the #1 place it’s off. In practice 2x MK3 hammers won’t produce one blast at full clip close range. Very slight spread tightening and another 10% effect accumulation would do it.
and hell, many of the hammers wins are a direct consequence of it unloading its clip 0.1 second faster than the puncher... look how many kils only have a 0.1 sec per reload cycle difference in kill time.
Hey Aygir could you make a video on the Pantegruel Nodens? It's absolutely busted in test server as a support, really fun to play. If you can get a squadmate with Cinder Minos or Luchador, you win 100% of the time.
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Hammer or Puncher?
These weapons feel almost the same. Similar unload and reload mechanics, similar damage output, different effect types only. With sharpshooter perk Hammer is overall the winner and a better choice for most case scenarios. I must say though I still prefer Puncher due to one important reason (one reason that Hammer lacks). Can anyone guess what it is?
Puncher
@@AYGIR close range hammer medium range puncher
Puncher
Puncher easily to fill mom ship attack
Also additional info worth a mention:
-puncher loads the mothership WAY faster
-hammers have the benefit of ignoring physical shields and can deal damage through very thin cover if the enemy is leaned against it
-blast ignores many defenses, making the hammer better at dealing with enemies that have a lot of damage reduction like titans, khepris, or hawk/harpy/siren in flight
For me makes it a real hard pick for the heavy slot on my fenrir, especially as I run a paralysis drone on it so hammer/mace alone can lockdown reliably... Its a choice between an overall more reliable weapon against high defense mech, and the ability to spam the everliving crap out of my Northlight
this is debatable to be honest. and they seem very similar, but overall i would go puncher. hammer is good in packs, but if you have just 2, they're unreliable in terms of effect accumulation
U speaking facts I forgot all about that
Not just effect accumulation but also orbital support charge rate as well.
Damage wise though, Hammer seems to be better.
You can stack the new shotguns with the rockets if you've got any.
@@AYGIR and yea, you're right, puncher charges orbital strikes much faster, i've noticed a common trait tho, all shotgun type weapons have some issues charging orbital strikes, even sonics are not that fast (not as slow as storm tho), hammer has potential, i tried using an hybrid on my hawk, replacing cudgel with scald while keeping hammer, it seems to do a lot better, being able to keep blastcharge running helps the overall damage of the build
@@AYGIR not really if revenants ability blocks the accumulation
Great Video. Thanks for the testing. I know the hammer on paper outperforms puncher in most scenarios, but actually playing them in game, puncher is much more consistent for me than hammer. And puncher fills the mothership up so quickly, it seems like ever 2 magazines I have another mothership, which comes in handy. Great video as always 🦾😎🤜💚🤛 GGs on Adrian’s Stream
Thanks Tony, cheers 🍻
I also enjoy Punchers more because they recharge orbital support faster and don't require sharpshooter skill like Hammer
Awesome content as usual Aygir, this was perfect. Thanks ✌🏾
I've been waiting for this!! Thank you!!
Thanks for the great information. I give the edge to the Puncher, because it builds the mother ship faster. I enjoyed the video very much. Players who enjoy War Robots should watch your videos. I learn a lot from your style of game play. You know, the little tricks that made you a better player. Thanks again
I still like the lockdown. So I'll pick the puncher. I wish they'd make a medium puncher.
I always look forward to your gameplays! I always like it a lot! Keep up the beautiful work! You play a lot! 👏🏽👏🏽😎
And you pay a lot.
Have you tried a combination of the two? I've been running that and it works pretty well, but I didn't think of the lack of effect accumulation for the bomb effect.
You put 2 of each on a behemoth? That's what I was thinking
@@tonyarrington8364 I run that, it's pretty good
Usually this is where the puncher gets another nerf like what happened to its light version... Let's hope that doesn't happen : )
With Hammer around I don't think Punchers need to be touched anymore.
@@AYGIR That mothership charge rate though... Either they'll nerf that or buff the hammer's
18:17 am I the only person that noticed the sand storm ?
It was always there,in high graphics
good video thanks. in the last game i see your mother ship got stuck at 99% , happens to me to very frustrating. so on a Fenrir, would a puncher or a Hammer be better? what do you think?
14:03 when it says 99%, minimise the screen and then maximise again, it will probably fix it
Not sure if it'll work on steam but ill try, thanks.
@@AYGIR alright no problem
I can never get meta weapons at the peak of their strength right when they are first released. Seriously a shotgun obliterates from 400m?
Very good
5:12 How to get this drone?
I think for now it just can be bought in the offers section. And sometimes it appears in operations. Not yet available with gold unfortunately.
Hammer or Decay ? Wich is better ?
The are both good like they this as intended. They have both good effects puncher has lock-down but it is countered by anti control but hammer has blast charge which is not countered but unless if you are a revenent. They have both good firepower the same reload
I find it interesting that some weapons do bettet on paper and others perform better in real time.
Those shotguns are a beast!😬
I'll go for both; half punchers and half Hammer.
Nice!!!!!
Ty
That gives me an idea maybe 2x puncher 2x hammer behemoth setup
Yessir 😀
@@lightningninja_x1557 yes
I wish to see 😶 to see this new weapons on invander but unfortunately no one is trying this explosive shotgun on invander.
Sounds fun 👀
Both are good, So I would like to go with Puncher, cuz they kill tanks every sec, Hammer is good but its nuts do you remember last video of Hammer mk3 gameplay you just slayed 4 titans with more shots, TBH I agree with everyone who wants shotguns get nerfed.
Magnetar vs hammer?
Is there a comparison to using sharpshooter skill vs no skill? Is the sharpshooter skill necessary?
Sharp shooter is very necessary
Noted it, haven't tested that yet. But my early assumption is that it is worth it on these new guns.
Close but hammer hasn't been nerfed yet...thanks AYGIR
I am concerned that Punchers were shooting at Luchador with anti-control, that for a second, increases titan's health
In both sides there were 2 anticontrols used actually. But since blastcharge doesn't trigger it you didn't see its effect.
That’s insane they tied! And I still think hammer is better cuz it is
Can you make a video of icarus’s turtle (skyros) vs DSC’s turtle (shell) pls ?
Hammer without a doubt because like the incinerator it takes down titans and heavy resistance tank bots goes through shields too.
Honestly I don’t think that the shotguns need the bomb effect. I feel like the recent trend for new weapons is high damage with effect, but why can’t it just be damage? The shotguns are already super powerful.
The effect accumulation seperates them from being another version of thunder.
@@te9591 they bypass physical shields with the splash damage though.
@@glowsinthedark235 true.
This proofs that you can use punchers and shredders along with hammer cudgel mace
I recommend P over H strictly due to the lockdown which allows allies to help put enemy to sleep 💤 and hold back attackers in other scenarios... The area damage from H is good for hide-and-seek enemy bots but Kramola and it's cousins will bend a few corners and catch you eating your popcorn 🍿... the accumulate effects on P are paramount. #bigBANGhero [C-YA] on the battlefield commanders ✊🏿
Do it without sharpshooter. Hammers are bad. How do I know? Have 2 MK3 on Orochi?
Is it worth it to promote a pilot and spend for a specific T4 skill for one weapon? Doubtful. Needs a buff so they are somewhat useable at average levels without spending thousands of gold.
Unless it’s only intended for big spenders in which case I guess it’s fine.
It doesn't need a major buff though. In my opinion it only needs a better effect accumulation which will result in overall damage increase and a faster orbital support charge rate.
@@AYGIR yep! That’s the #1 place it’s off. In practice 2x MK3 hammers won’t produce one blast at full clip close range. Very slight spread tightening and another 10% effect accumulation would do it.
After few days the same weapon will be in a status to be compared with Orkans
Waiting for new machine guns to become like skadi hels🤣.
These new shotguns will get a slight nerf like sonics
This would have been easy win if puncher wasn't nerfed
I have 2 of them level 9 on my orochi and I ain't putting them down
I am actually glad Punchers got a slight nerf. They are better balanced now. With the Hammer in the game, there is no need to touch Punchers anymore.
@@AYGIR agreed
I'm trying to level up my fourth Puncher so I can use it on my Behemoth. At the moment I'm using Hornets. You are right about puncher nerf.
@@hondacar nice
We need to beg pixonic to fix the orbit strike button when it gets stuck at 99%
So their performance is the same if both is at 170 meter range wow
and hell, many of the hammers wins are a direct consequence of it unloading its clip 0.1 second faster than the puncher... look how many kils only have a 0.1 sec per reload cycle difference in kill time.
Pix only forcus on how to make players spend more cash rather than make the game good.
Wtf i nvr thought the shotgun can do that much dmg at 400m
Hey Aygir could you make a video on the Pantegruel Nodens? It's absolutely busted in test server as a support, really fun to play. If you can get a squadmate with Cinder Minos or Luchador, you win 100% of the time.
Unfortunately, It's been 3 weeks since I can't get into test server. It always crashes on my emulator.
Just wait...puncher nerf is coming soon...i mean they are doing business, they will definitely do it...
Puncher is already nerf, but the hammer is not . I choose puncher
Still like punchers more :)
Hammer all the way!
I choose puncher no hesitation
🙏🙏🙏😞
Hammet and puncher
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Both weapons needs a nerf
I rather go with the lockdown
Who is the world can get 4 punchers or hammers?? 🤡🤡🤡
Players who earn a lot of silver🤣
I have 4 mk3 punchers but on 2 orochis.
Puncher nerf incoming...
hammer
this is getting ridicuous pixonic, the punchers are already op
Please please nerf hammer