Indeed and creation testifies of that,take the Sun,moon and stars for example The Sun is the Light for the moon and the moon for the Stars and in the night season when the moon is shining we know that the Sun is there for the moon is the reflection of the Sun and that's how Yeshua said he who has seen me has seen the Father for he is the Father's radiance Yeshuas light is the Father and and our light as the body is Yeshua and this is depicted in the Sun,Moon,and stars The Sun is the Father in a sense and the Moon is the Son,and stars are the church
@@morenamakae6588 how can you compare Christ glorious spiritual body composed of the elects ones from all nations to the stars and the son to the moon and God to the sun ??? This is a pagan heresy to compare God with the sun !!!! God create the sun but he is not the sun and he created all stars and each star is producing is own light (they do not reflect light) this is why they are call luminary. Jesus is also call '' the morning star'' this is Venus but it's a symbol only because He is the first light that come in us in our darkness, Jesus being the light of the world . The creation testify OF A CREATOR . Our light as the body of Christ is GOD LIGHT IN US , only one is the light of the world and who come in us as the light , this is God Spirit in us , Jesus is God (Father) manifest in flesh .... only One Spirit above all and Jesus is the Spirit and the name above all given to men.
Kel!!!! My dear friend showed me your channel. Together we have been going over your videos and articles for the last three months, compiling notes. I brought the “trinity delusion” to my local Bible study today! To be fair I met with a lot of pushback. They like to play Bible Badminton… where they just keep lobbing verses “over the net” but I was able to confidently respond back! I gave the leaders copies of my notes (a big binder topic by topic) They agreed to read it … now we shall see. Praying hard for the lights to come on even if it’s just one person at a time! Thank you for ALL of your hard work. Your library or resources is truly a wealth of information !!
It does not end in "The Father and I are One." or in "I am in the Father and the Father is in me." John 17:20-21 20I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of 👉those who will believe in Me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
That’s is why Thomas said : my lord and my God when he saw Jesus resurrected. Now He not only saw his messiah but also his God IN Jesus . Finally he gets it : if you seen me you have seen the father ( God)
@@michelhaineault6654 Nobody needs to "change it." You only need to listen to Jesus. He who has seen the man Jesus has see the Father and Jesus explained precisely HOW in the very next breath.
Jesus also told Thomas blessed are they who haven't seen me, but believe. Thomas also had an unbelief problem. So it was hard for him to grasp God raising Jesus from the dead.
Speaking of the Father, Christ says in John 14:23 "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him and make OUR abode with him." Titus 2:13 also clearly indicates that Christ AND the Father are coming together at some point in the future. I pray that everyone will start reading their Bibles, especially these two scriptures... It is important as scripture tells us that only those who recognize Christ as the son of God will be saved. Read 1 John 4:15 please...
Jesus is clearly teaching that he is the Holy Spirit in us being the holy Spirit of the Father IN US. = WE will come unto him and make OUR abode with him. ( who make is abode in us ? It's the Holy Spirit) Jesus and the Father are the Holy Spirit IN US. Not two spirit but ONE.
The verses starts with a singular noun.... Speaking of a man... So when Christ says We will come unto him (the man) and make our abode with him (the man) then the man can not be included in the we.... Rules of grammar apply the same in both Greek and English.... It should also be noted that this whole chapter clearly starts off with a discussion of what will happen at his coming... read verse 3... The discussion in this chapter continues to be about his coming... Read verse 21 that proceeds 23 that we are discussing ... And the discussion is still about his coming when we arrive at John 14:28 where we are still talking about his coming... To deny the Father is coming too is to deny Christ's own words and to deny the whole context of this chapter.
@@preppingforprophecy7680 the verse clearly say '' WE will come unto him and make OUR abode with him. ( who make is abode in us ? It's the Holy Spirit) Jesus came to baptize us of THE HOLY SPIRIT this is how we are saves.....He make is abide in us IN SPIRIT and this is why Paul is saying: Gal.2: 20I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. It's Christ who lives in us.... and nobody else.We have to die to ourself to be in Christ Holy Spirit, it's him IN US who conduct us and teach us , we are under is will. This is how we are born from Heaven... we have to die before we can be resurrected in Spirit.
@@michelhaineault6654 Certainly the spirit is coming with Christ when he returns; but do you believe that Christ is coming as the king of God's kingdom but the Father himself is not coming too? Why does the prophecy in Joel 2:27-28 tells us we will know the Father is in the midst of Israel and then AFTERWARDS he will pour out his spirit on ALL FLESH? It is because the major fulfillment of this prophecy has not occured yet. The prophecy in John chapter 14 refers to this MAJOR future prophecy as well as to the MINOR fulfillment of prophecy that occurred at Pentecost in the first century. John chapter 14 makes it abundantly evident that it too is a prophecy with two fulfillments as Christ speaks of his coming in at least 5 verses - John 14:3, 18, 21, 23, and 28. To look at John 14 and to only see a first century fulfillment is ignoring Joel's prophecy and Christ's future coming.
Yes, the same blindness in Trinitarian thinking happens in their rendition of John's prologue...they supposedly believe in a unity of 3 persons; yet the Word is Jesus, and not the Father....????? When it suits their interpretation, Jesus becomes independent and isolated and even "self -existent".
Hi, Brother Kel. I think it would be a good idea to let us know what translation of the bible you are using. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but so if we want to read and study this, we will know what translation to look for. Thanks for everything you are doing to get the TRUTH out to the world.
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, LIKE UNTO THEE, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Jesus would be a prophet like Moses. Num 12:6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. Num 12:7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. Num 12:8 With him will I SPEAK MOUTH TO MOUTH, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? Jesus being a prophet like Moses when he speaks it's the Father speaking through him. If you ask Jesus to show the Father of course the Father in him will reply. The Father was literally in Jesus speaking through him.
Hi Brother Ke! You have pointed out what the scriptures say in John and 1 John, about the Father and the Son and you say, "it would be absurd to conceive of the Son without the Father", that is correct. How do we know the Father? The Father is the Eternal Spirit that is the life of the Son of Man Jesus, 1 John 5:11. It is The Eternal Spirit that is from the Beginning, known as The Word. It is this Eternal Spirit through whom all things came into being, including Man. It is the same Eternal Spirit that returned to the body of the Son of Man Jesus, bringing him back to life from the dead, Hebrews 9:14. 1 John 1:1-2, ...the Eternal Life (the Spirit) which was 'with the Father' (His Father) and was revealed to us. The Son himself tells us that 'His Father' is Greater than He is, John 14:28. The Son said, "...I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God", John 20:17. The Spirit Son of God Created us, John 1:2-3, so He is a Father to us. His Father, having been revealed to us through the Son, is now Our Father and Our God, Matthew 11:27.
I haven't ignored nor contradicted Christs words at all. He always says He is Bread of Life our God and Savior. The Father Sends God the Son from Heaven for our Salvation, for Salvation is of the Lord not from us or our own dead works. The Father and Son Send Spirit and both Breathe Spirit to create and to empower disciples.
Yes you did contradict him. He said that he doesn't glorify himself concerning who he is because it would mean nothing. But you claim that in the very next breath he did glorify himself concerning who he is and it means everything. Have you no shame?
Ephraim is a burnt offering made by fire to the Lord who authorized him Hosea 7/8 Ephraim is Anointed One among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned. (Like I said a burnt offering, the bread he gives is his body) 9 Outsiders have devoured his strength and he does not know; yes, grey hairs are sprinkled on him and he does not know. 10 And the Pride of Israel testifies to his face, yes they do not return to Yahweh their Elohim, nor search for Him for all this. 11 Ephraim also is like an innocent dove without heart; they call to Egypt; they go to Assyria. 12 Wherever they go I will spread my Net over them; I will bring them down like the birds of the skies; I will chastise them in keeping with what their congregation has heard. What their congregation has heard is the report given to them in Revelation 2 & 3 from the visions that were given to John and told by Ephraim to write down when John heard the voice behind him it was the glory of Ephraim the God who is(living)who was(dead)who is coming(finally arrived at that point)the Almighty... He is the Revelation 12 sign Hosea 9/11 the glory of Ephraim will fly away like a bird - no birth, no one with child, no conceiving. (Already killed & resurrected) 12 Though they bring up their children, I will make them childless. Yes, woe also to them when I depart from them! 13 Ephraim, as I saw Tyrus, is planted in a pleasant place(received up in heaven 1,260 days), but Ephraim will bring out his sons to the murderer.......I will chastise them in keeping with what their congregation has heard -Hosea 7/12 Jeremiah 48/40 he will fly with eagle wings over Moab Matthew 24/28 For wherever I am, the carcass, in that place will be assembled the eagle.
I think that a lot of confusion is because this relationship is not understood or accepted. This unity/ oneness between Father and son. Jesus was VERY careful to give his every word and deed as coming from the Father. It seems like Trinitarians prefer to ignore a thousand clear scriptures in favor of a few vague scriptures. GOD is a HE / Jesus is Son of God. .... That is the Shama / That is the message of Salvation. When you ignore that foundation, you are living in contradiction.
Hello, I know these things also, But I have some questions. I hold the view that there is a trinity, but it is just misunderstood. Its, not three persons, but it's one person. The problem is the use of this word "person". The only trinity is that God revealed himself in these3 distinct ways. Is that not considered a trinity? God wanted us to know that he revealed himself in these 3 ways that is why we have verses, like baptize them in the name of the Father , The son, and the Holy Ghost. The reason I say this is because the name of your channel implies that the entire idea of the trinity is a delusion, but in my view most of Christianity just has a wrong understanding of it. Looking forward to any replies I can get. Thanks.
Trinity World believes Jesus showed up because he is the second God of the Trinity Godhead not the Father but Jesus says I have come in my Fathers Name but if some person comes in his own name you'll except him?
let me help you , Jesus is the Father , Jesus is the spirit , we have ONE GOD , believe what scripture says , not a convincing youtube video , isaiah 9:6 , he is the Father , read it , romans 8:9 , he is the spirit , read it , John 1:1 he is the word and the word is God , read it , 1timothy 3:16 , God manifest in the flesh , rev 1:8 Jesus claims to be alpha and omega , which is impossible unless you're God the Father , which , God is the Father , "God the Father" as seen in scripture. Let me end this real simple , and then you go study more , theres WAY MORE than what im giving , this is a lightbulb moment to begin , concerning the Father , Jesus says , henceforth from here on , you KNOW HIM and ... HAVE SEEN HIM , referring to himself , simple , scripture says hes the visible image of the invisible God , hes a manifestation / form of God me and you can know and see my brother brian , otherwise we cant see GOD ever in any way , with Jesus we can and with Jesus he can as it says "purchase us with HIS OWN BLOOD" . The word WAS GOD and the word was made flesh , thus , made visible , so if the word IS GOD and its made visible , doesn't that line up perfect with scripture , Jesus is the visible image of God... and now , concerning the spirit , romans 8:9 , spirit of God , is , the spirit of Christ , and Jesus said i will not leave you comfortless , I WILL COME TO YOU , the comforter , who my Father ( flesh referring to the spirit , God is not flesh , he manifest IN flesh he himself created by making his own word , which is him , flesh , he jumped in that body to use it for our sake ) now , he says , the comforter , whom my Father will send IN MY NAME ... so now you see , Jesus is God , Jesus is the Father and Jesus is the spirit , now matt 28 19 can finally make sense , baptize in THE NAME ( singular , not names , although its foolish to say Father or son or spirit is a name and not a title ) ...in THE NAME of the Father , son , spirit , why? JESUS CHRIST is the name and thats why peter commanded baptism in the name of Jesus Christ because he understood all this . Comforter he will send IN MY NAME and Jesus said i come in MY FATHERS NAME and the sons name is JESUS CHRIST , make sense now why all this talk of MY NAME all the time , we can go deeper , this should get you motivated to open scripture , a king james , ignore all these man made traditions , videos and slander with labels "oneness" "kjv only" or whatever garbage they say , its a devil made tactic to steer you from truth , ASK JESUS if im a liar , you do trust Jesus right? if im a liar , he will confirm it , if not , he will open your eyes , whats key on your part then? humble your heart , God resists the proud , if you really want truth and not to burn in hell , let God reveal it himself , not a youtuber , not a church building pastor , JESUS HIMSELF , open your king james bible , Jesus will never lie to you , if you ask for a fish , he wont give you a snake , you ask for truth , he wont give a lie , but you cant exhalt a prior belief over what he shows you , you need to be humble and if he proves your belief wrong , accept it , repent , move on , no need to be embarassed , whats embarassing is to clutch a lie all the way to hell , anything beyond what i just told you of who Jesus / God is , is idolatry , and heresy , these send you to hell , the other devilish lie they say , its not a salvation issue , yes it is , and thats why Jesus said "if ye believe not IAM he , ye shall die in your sins" and this is why they wanted to stone Jesus , they knew exactly the claim he was making . IAM is God , the HE Jesus mentions is God and IAM he definitely referred to him being God , which is why he said , before abraham was IAM , not "my God is , my Father is" no ...IAM , HE claimed to be IAM , and thats why he said , destroy this temple i will raise it up , not my God will raise it up , my Father will raise it up , I WILL RAISE IT UP , he is the Father , speaking to them , through a body he himself made from his own word which IS HIM , is your word some other person? of course not , its you , Gods all powerful , he can make his into a manifestation , we cant , and so not only this , the invisible spirit , God the Father , the holy spirit was IN this body , God was standing right there and they had no idea , pride ................. they definitely knew who he claimed to be , they took up stones. i hope this helps you , these guys are lying on God and if they dont repent , they will spend eternity in hellfire , do not follow them there because you like them , the doctrine sounds easier to follow , the words sound sweet , or any reason , God said to respect persons is a sin , follow JESUS and obey the word of God , ignore the rest.
Adam,Moses,Abraham and Muhammad teaching to the people were submit to ONE GOD. All same teaching of Islam from first prophet to last prophet to worship the ONE CREATOR of the universe.
John 14:1 says to only believe in God and His Son and this was the preparation that you shouldn't believe in any third God and John 17:3 says eternal life is to know the true God and His Son and this is the ending that you will only find life in the two not three...a third is a masquerading Spirit that will only lead astray Yeshua glorified one with the Father John 7:37-39 is our Comforter John 1:14 not any other, Yeshua glorified one with the Father is the Spirit 2cor 3:17 that sets us free for he is the truth and he is the only way and life to the Father John 14:6,the only mediator between God and men 1timothy 2:5 the Spirit who INTERCEDES for us in Romans 8 and leads us from within Colossians 1:27 and he is the only shepherd,the only door to enter in and go out John 10 Trinity is satanic
@The Trinity Delusion I'm not so sure what you are saying, I believe that in the plan of God , God knew when and where Jesus would be born. But other than that I'm not going further, if he existed pre birth then he would not be a real human . But thank you for your reply, I truly enjoy watching and learning from your videos. Having been a trinity believer for 55 plus years, but even then I never believed Jesus preexisted.
@@TheTrinityDelusion I somewhat agree with your answer here, But I was wondering if you know that God appeared as a man on 3 separate occasions in the Torah (Old Testament)? and so I think that Jesus before his birth was just God essentially. He simply hadn't taken on flesh yet.
Isaiah 40:3. LORD = Father. John (greatest prophet ever born among women), prepared the way for the LORD not the Lord. The lamb of God is the Holy Spirit that speaks the WORD thru his prophets/sons/suffering servants/witnesses/very elect/firsrfruits/Zech 7:12. As noted in Revelation with 7 horns and 7 eyes.
this guys still lost or lies on purpose , if i understand you , you have been revealed by God that Jesus IS GOD , IS the Father , IS the spirit , all seen in scripture , the word made flesh , a visible image of the invisible GOD , and many are not aware of isaiah 40:3 , thats a real gem , LORD , Jesus is Father GOD and no one else , one GOD from deut 6:4 , he does not change , malachi 3:6 , This is why when Jesus said baptize in the name of the father son spirit , peter understood clearly what that meant and used "THE NAME" , Jesus Christ , which is the name of those forms / manifestations of Father God. These carnal minds think GOD is limited , not realising , he can have as many forms as he chooses , all at once , he fills all space , they also don't realise the scriptures where the flesh speaks to or OF , the spirit , God is not flesh , he is a spirit , he manifest IN the flesh , which was his WORD , made flesh , which his word in John 1 , IS GOD ... they neglect ALL of this and MUCH MORE. Rev 1:8 says Jesus is the beginning and the end ...there is only ONE beginning and ONE end ..GOD the Father , the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY , Jesus Christ , as he rightfully claimed , which is why ONE is SEEN on the throne , "seen" , Jesus ......not an invisible spirit , and no other person standing beside him , right hand means power , Jesus sits on the throne of power , if they bothered to study scriptures on this , they would have learned it , its even in the gospels .
i forgot to mention about Jesus being the spirit , roman 8:9 , spirit of God , spirit of Christ , Jesus says i wont leave you comfortless I WILL COME TO YOU , the comforter whom the Father will send IN MY NAME .
@@TheTrinityDelusion whom shoud I ask? I am asking you with genuine heart.I am not intellectually convinced by the doctrine of the Trinity.Your teaching makes sense for me at intellectual level but I have had very tangible internal witness of the holysprit long before hearing any kind of oneness or Unitarian teaching. This is mysterious to me and this is what holds me back to reject trinitarian doctrine. Secondly, I think trinitarianism is more congruent with the early history of the church/Apostolic fathers/ Shouldn't we care about what the historical church believe? Do you think there hasn't ever true church after the apostles? Please clearly answer these questions with due respect.
@@waleligndebalke1665 If you are wondering why God is doing whatever He is doing with you, why would you ask me? Ask Him. God is more concerned about your heart than your doctrine.
@@waleligndebalke1665 No we shouldn't care what church fathers or the early church believe. We have to care what Jesus was preaching and what the apostles were spreading. In the letters of John you already see a falling away from the truth. That truth is the man Christ Jesus and not the early church or church fathers* Who did they thought they were? Jesus gave his life for the church of his God and Father. There's no room for church fathers; it's heresy. "Call no one father for there is one father who is your Father in heaven". Those fake church fathers tried to replace God with themselves.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Thank you brother.I got you! To be honest Matthew 28:19 and John 16 /about the holysprit/ are the only evidences for believing in the Trinity. No one has ever clearly showed me why we should baptise in the name of the holysprit and the son if they are not God along with the father.Does it make sense ? Why we baptise in the name of these two? If I got the answer for this against the Trinity doctrine my believe in the Trinity will crash.But I love God the father of Jesus Christ our Lord.I wanna know him in his full nature.I don't wanna worship my own image of him.Pray for me!
You are right about distinction between the Father, Son and Spirit but in grave error in declaring the Son and Spirit as created and impersonal energy. In John 14:23 Jesus as God says WE will come to live in you (Father, Son and Spirit). In the Beginning God said Let US make man in Our Image says the One God Father, Son and Spirit. Jesus says I and the Father are One John 10:30. Jesus receives Thomas Worship and Thomas declares to Him My Lord and My God John 20:28. Revelation 1 and 2 and Isaiah 44:6 God and Christ God is First and the Last the Almighty.
Scripture is of very paramount importance to me for it reveals our Gods plan and covenant to me through Christ our Lord, Savior and God. If you keep denying that and peddling a false Christ then that is your problem. If you were children of God you would know Christ as God and Judge. Your speaking proves you don't know God at all and are headed for disaster. Of course when Christ Comes again so does the Father and the Holy Spirit, for God is One and Coming Again.
you need to repent , Jesus made it clear he is GOD and he is the Father , and just as he told the pharasees , im telling you , if ye believe not IAM he , ye shall die in your sins....................... since you like to highlight and underline "HE" ironically . Now , i just began this heretical video , but , do you wanna explain how someone will "see him as he is" when Gods an invisible spirit? the answer is simple , Jesus is the visible image because he is the WORD OF GOD who is GOD , John 1 makes this clear , not some other person , GODS word itself , manifest in a form which is visible to us , thus , you seen me , you seen the Father...pretty simple . Jesus even seen henceforth from here you know him and have SEEN HIM talking of the Father , you need to repent and obey God sir , Jesus Christ , or you will indeed be in the lake of fire for this heresy . I am not here for a peeing contest , i care for your soul , ask Jesus for revelation , this is not it , Jesus made it clear , i am the beginning and the end.......im sorry , is there two beginnings and ends now? or is that then the Father? i've seen enough of your clips to know your personality , which is where the sarcasm comes from , most importantly , i want the truth to break your pride and open your understanding . you seem confused about GODS power to manifest , be in other forms all at one time as if he's not all powerful and everywhere at once which the psalms and jeremiah will affirm. He does not need anything or anyone seperate from himself to do ANYTHING , beside him , there is no other savior , which is why Jesus can be the savior , Jesus is God , is the savior , beside him , none else , he will not share glory , yet Jesus has glory and is worshipped even of angels , no contradiction , he is GOD ... who is the Father ... the trinity is a lie but so is this .
let me help you , Jesus is the Father , Jesus is the spirit , we have ONE GOD , believe what scripture says , not a convincing youtube video , isaiah 9:6 , he is the Father , read it , romans 8:9 , he is the spirit , read it , John 1:1 he is the word and the word is God , read it , 1timothy 3:16 , God manifest in the flesh , rev 1:8 Jesus claims to be alpha and omega , which is impossible unless you're God the Father , which , God is the Father , "God the Father" as seen in scripture. Let me end this real simple , and then you go study more , theres WAY MORE than what im giving , this is a lightbulb moment to begin , concerning the Father , Jesus says , henceforth from here on , you KNOW HIM and ... HAVE SEEN HIM , referring to himself , simple , scripture says hes the visible image of the invisible God , hes a manifestation / form of God me and you can know and see my brother brian , otherwise we cant see GOD ever in any way , with Jesus we can and with Jesus he can as it says "purchase us with HIS OWN BLOOD" . The word WAS GOD and the word was made flesh , thus , made visible , so if the word IS GOD and its made visible , doesn't that line up perfect with scripture , Jesus is the visible image of God... and now , concerning the spirit , romans 8:9 , spirit of God , is , the spirit of Christ , and Jesus said i will not leave you comfortless , I WILL COME TO YOU , the comforter , who my Father ( flesh referring to the spirit , God is not flesh , he manifest IN flesh he himself created by making his own word , which is him , flesh , he jumped in that body to use it for our sake ) now , he says , the comforter , whom my Father will send IN MY NAME ... so now you see , Jesus is God , Jesus is the Father and Jesus is the spirit , now matt 28 19 can finally make sense , baptize in THE NAME ( singular , not names , although its foolish to say Father or son or spirit is a name and not a title ) ...in THE NAME of the Father , son , spirit , why? JESUS CHRIST is the name and thats why peter commanded baptism in the name of Jesus Christ because he understood all this . Comforter he will send IN MY NAME and Jesus said i come in MY FATHERS NAME and the sons name is JESUS CHRIST , make sense now why all this talk of MY NAME all the time , we can go deeper , this should get you motivated to open scripture , a king james , ignore all these man made traditions , videos and slander with labels "oneness" "kjv only" or whatever garbage they say , its a devil made tactic to steer you from truth , ASK JESUS if im a liar , you do trust Jesus right? if im a liar , he will confirm it , if not , he will open your eyes , whats key on your part then? humble your heart , God resists the proud , if you really want truth and not to burn in hell , let God reveal it himself , not a youtuber , not a church building pastor , JESUS HIMSELF , open your king james bible , Jesus will never lie to you , if you ask for a fish , he wont give you a snake , you ask for truth , he wont give a lie , but you cant exhalt a prior belief over what he shows you , you need to be humble and if he proves your belief wrong , accept it , repent , move on , no need to be embarassed , whats embarassing is to clutch a lie all the way to hell , anything beyond what i just told you of who Jesus / God is , is idolatry , and heresy , these send you to hell , the other devilish lie they say , its not a salvation issue , yes it is , and thats why Jesus said "if ye believe not IAM he , ye shall die in your sins" and this is why they wanted to stone Jesus , they knew exactly the claim he was making . IAM is God , the HE Jesus mentions is God and IAM he definitely referred to him being God , which is why he said , before abraham was IAM , not "my God is , my Father is" no ...IAM , HE claimed to be IAM , and thats why he said , destroy this temple i will raise it up , not my God will raise it up , my Father will raise it up , I WILL RAISE IT UP , he is the Father , speaking to them , through a body he himself made from his own word which IS HIM , is your word some other person? of course not , its you , Gods all powerful , he can make his into a manifestation , we cant , and so not only this , the invisible spirit , God the Father , the holy spirit was IN this body , God was standing right there and they had no idea , pride ................. they definitely knew who he claimed to be , they took up stones. i hope this helps you , these guys are lying on God and if they dont repent , they will spend eternity in hellfire , do not follow them there because you like them , the doctrine sounds easier to follow , the words sound sweet , or any reason , God said to respect persons is a sin , follow JESUS and obey the word of God , ignore the rest.
The Father, Son and Spirit are always mentioned of as Distinct Personalities yet One God. The Father is not the Son nor the Holy Spirit for the Son and Spirit come forth from the Father in all eternal One God action, communion and interrelation of Love and Power. In Creation, guidance to us, in the Recreation to be born again in Christ, to raise Christ Up and all things One in Action. Let US make man says One God. Gen 1, and We will come to you says God in Christ John 14:23.
It is more than plain that Scriptural facts do not matter to you. It is also more than plain that your own fleshly desires are what matter to you - what you want to be true rather than what actually is. Why you do this is beyond comprehension.
Ambassadors of a president come in the behalf of the president. They represent exactly what the president expects and requires. A son cant be a son without a father and a father cant be a father without a child. Elementary stuff. Dont try to improve the Son of God's resume by forcing him to be more than he ever claimed to be other than the son of God. They are one in agreement. But Jesus died for 3 dayd. God raised him on the 3rd. If the Father can die...you are delusional. No one has ever seen God. Jesus was seen. 😊
Jesus didnot always boast to everyone that He is God. He is more Hidden Servant, especially to the Pharisees that would never believe in Him, yet He did reveal even to them at His illegal trial showing He is Gods equal from Daniel 7:13 prophecy of Jesus Exaltation after death on the Cross back to equal Glory He Shared with the Father and the Holy Spirit in the Beginning before ALL creation.
So it is equal but not equal in your view - makes perfect sense That said, it should be noted that the glory Jesus shared with His Father, was from the Father, and that He would share it with His followers.
You seem to think that if you keep telling yourself your own lies it will somehow validate them. Sorry but that won't work for you. The only God is the God of Jesus and that is a fact from which you can never escape.
Yes, you have made God the Holy Spirit as impersonal energy in same way that you make Christ into a created idol but Christ is God. The Holy Spirit is God.
Absolute error. The only true God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Come to Truth friends. Jesus said He is Truth God Incarnate and Holy Spirit is God and Truth. I will stick with scripture and not phony, hypocritical, damnable heresies. If you don't honor the Son as God then you don't honor His Father who Sent Him and is His Equal. You have no facts, only babbling babylon teachings deceiving the ignorant.
Jesus taught otherwise. There is only one God and that one God is his God. But you don't obviously care about the facts since you persistently refuse to acknowledge any of them and would rather pass off your personal contraptions as "facts." The only thing you care about is your doctrinal idol which you desire to serve. Your personal desires won't be able to help you when you stand before the Judge.
IF YOU SEE '' ME '' you see the Father So Jesus show the Father as being him ; You see ME ... ( God in the flesh) Also Jesus say HE WILL RESURRECT HIMSELF ( normal He is the resurrection and life, only God can BE this ) John2:19 Jesus answered, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up again.” and I WILL RAISE IT UP (Jesus was speaking of is death and resurrection and clearly say it's is HIM who will rise Himself) Scripture also say : " Acts 3:15: "You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead." ( Jesus or the Father are the same one)
Romans 10:9 kjv. and John 7:16-17 kjv "whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself" Who is the Living Temple and who dwells in his Living Temple? Revelation 21:3 kjv Who is the High Priest? Who is the Anointed? Who is the Lamb? Not God, he is none of these! Who sent Messiah? Whose will did Messiah follow? Who commands Messiah in wat to say? God....God is the Answer! Who died? Who prayed to God our Father? Who is the Lamb that takes the book from God in Revelation Ch 5? Yeshua! Can God be tempted by Satan? Can God die? Has any man seen the face of God and lived? No! You are not able to understand who is speaking in scripture "whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself" you can't tell the difference and yes, there is a clear difference or our Messiah would not tell us. You are lost!
30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. Who is talking here? "whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself" Do you not understand? Are you that blind or brainwashed you are unable to see the truth?
@@tmcge3325 if you SEE ME you SEE THE FATHER This is a proof that Jesus is the Father in the flesh as teach in 1Tim.3:16 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.(It's God here and we know it's also Jesus, God (Father) been receive UP IN GLORY mmmm the text cannot lie but men do !
@@tmcge3325 tell me can you say ''if you see me you see the Father '' ??? Can you forgive sins ??? Are YOU the the resurrection and eternal life ? But Jesus is all this AND MUCH MORE , he will judge and resurrect ALL MEN at the end and He is not the Almighty one ???? OH YES HE IS rev1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.... ( This is all about Jesus and He is call THE ALMIGHTY ) You cannot make the distinction between THE FLESH AND SPIRIT (Jesus mind ) , as a man Jesus can be tempted and die but as God IN FLESH He could perform supernatural miracles and forgive sins and resurrect Himself..... a man cannot perform this only God is the unique Savior and giver of life as Jesus is .
@@michelhaineault6654 Is the Father in you? If God does his works through you do people see God through those works or do they not? Aren’t all who are in Christ one with the Father as well? Aren’t all who are one with the Father a light in this world? Forgiving sins. Mathew “9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. 9:7 And he arose, and departed to his house. 9:8 But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.”KJV They glorified God which had given such power unto MEN. Jesus is the resurrection and the life. But don’t stop there, keep reading. John “11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world. KJV Martha knew exactly who Jesus was. Did she say you are God incarnate? No. Did she say you are God? No. She said you are the anointed, son of God. The very verses you quoted answer themselves if you just keep reading.
God comes on the clouds. So does Jesus in Creation and the Second Coming. He said I and the Father are One. John 10:30 and Jesus said He met Abraham in Pre Incarnate appearance to Abraham and ate veal with him. Genesis 18. The Jews like you seeked to stone Jesus for claiming equality with God the Father.John 8:58. In John 6:62 Jesus speaks of His Ascending on His Own Power as God to where He was before. In Hebrews 1:8 God the Father says of Son as God that His Throne is forever and ever. The Son is equally God. John 1, Rev 1 and 2, Colossians 1, Hebrews 1. and all the Bible God is Father, Son and Spirit. I pray you change lest i continue to cast pearls before swine. 🙏
"The Jews like you seeked to stone Jesus for claiming equality with God the Father.John 8:58." When the Jews asked him WHO he claimed to be, Jesus just got finished saying he does not glorify himself since it means nothing (8:53-54) but you tell lies and contradict him saying he did glorify himself in the highest way possible and it means everything. You keep repeating lies and you can't seem to help yourself.
God sent Jesus ... the question is HOW Jesus was sent ! He did not come in a flying saucer but HE BEEN BEGOTTEN by the Spirit and this is how Jesus CAME AS THE REDEEMER . Now who is the one who came to Redeem is peoples ??? IT'S YAHWEH alone ! here is the biblical proof: Isaiah 35:3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees. 4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you. 5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. 7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes. 8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein. 9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there: 10 And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away. It's the Father who WILL COME AND SAVES IS PEOPLES so Jesus is the Father in the flesh who come as the sacrificial Lamb FOR TO REDEEM IS PEOPLES.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Yes but Luke 4:18 is confirming that Jesus is Yahweh as we see in Isaiah35 (God cannot lie) luke 4: He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, .... this is what Yahweh say He will do= Isaiah 35: 4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you. ( WHO WILL COME AND SAVES US HERE ???????????? 5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. (This is what the Father will do WHEN HE WILL COME) I repeat this fundamental teaching : WHO WILL COME AND SAVES IS PEOPLES AND HEAL THE BLIND AND THE DEAF ? Yahweh tell us IT WILL BE HIM ! So this is destroying the heresy saying Jesus is not God the Father in flesh who came as the sacrificial lamb (in flesh) for to saves is people.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Yahweh is the lamb of Yahweh and the son of Yahweh. Yahweh never did his own will but the will of Yahweh. If Yahweh glorified himself his glory meant nothing. Therefore Yahweh glorified Yahweh. It's sad to see how the ones without ears to hear are making complete fools out of themselves.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Messiah mean ANOINTED ONE God is the Messiah he Himself say I WILL COME AND SAVES MY PEOPLES .... The Messiah is God in the flesh so Jesus was perfectly a man and He was anointed by the Spirit being begotten by the same Spirit. God begot is own temple not made from man hand but made by Him, this is why Jesus is THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE FATHER ,the true living tabernacle of the Father on earth, this is why Jesus was without sins, God cannot sin, the flesh can be tempted but God cannot sin. Nobody can say '' if you see me you see the Father'' ( in flesh) if you cannot understand this you are in big trouble. Jesus was to be call by the name : '' everlasting Father and MIGHTY GOD '' ...this is the truth and the true God .When Jesus say I AM the way I AM the truth I AM the eternal life he clearly describe him as being Yahweh in flesh because only Yahweh can be all this.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Revelation 2:8 ESV “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life. Luke 1:37 ESV For nothing will be impossible with God.” John 1:1 ESV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:2 ESV He was in the beginning with God. John 1:14 ESV And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. John 8:58 ESV Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” Isaiah 9:6 ESV For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 1 Corinthians 8:6 ESV Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are "ALL" things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are "ALL" things and through whom we exist. John 1:3 ESV All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. Colossians 1:15-17 ESV / 175 helpful votes He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. John 14:9 ESV Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 20:28 ESV Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” John 14:6 ESV Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 1:18 ESV No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known. 2 Peter 1:1 ESV Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: Hebrews 1:3 ESV He is the radiance of the glory of God and the EXCACT imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, Revelation 1:8 ESV “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Isaiah 7:14 ESV Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. = GOD WITH US John 3:16 ESV “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in HIM BEING "JESUS" should not perish but have eternal life. Hebrews 1:2-3 ESV But in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, Titus 2:13 ESV Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, John 10:33 ESV The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.” Matthew 1:23 ESV “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us). John 8:24 ESV I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.” Isaiah 44:6 ESV Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god. Hebrews 13:8 ESV Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. Acts 4:12 ESV And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Colossians 1:16-17 ESV For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. John 10:28-30 ESV I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.” 2 Corinthians 4:4 ESV In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. John 5:18 ESV This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. Revelation 22:13 ESV I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” John 17:5 ESV And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. Revelation 1:17-18 ESV When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades. Romans 5:8 ESV But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Hebrews 1:1-3 ESV Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, Philippians 2:5-7 ESV Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. Matthew 14:33 ESV And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.” Matthew 28:9 ESV And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him. Hebrews 1:6 ESV And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's angels worship him.” John 5:23 ESV That all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. 2 Corinthians 13:14 ESV The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. John 14:13 ESV Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. Isaiah 43:11 ESV I, I am the Lord, and besides me there is no savior. John 8:28 ESV So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me. 1 Timothy 2:5 ESV For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Isaiah 42:8 ESV I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols. Romans 10:9 ESV Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 1 John 5:20 ESV And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. John 3:18 ESV Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. John 1:1-3 ESV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 20:27-28 ESV Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Colossians 1:15 ESV He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Colossians 1:16 ESV For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him. Revelation 2:8 ESV “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life. John 9:35-38 Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” He answered, “And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?” Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.” He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him. myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’
I don't think they are against Christ, it seems like they are simply saying that Christ is God. Him and the Father are really one person, and this would be true if you examine the scriptures.
The son is in the Father and the Father is in the son. Wherever the son is, the Father also is. It is impossible to be otherwise.
Indeed and creation testifies of that,take the Sun,moon and stars for example
The Sun is the Light for the moon and the moon for the Stars and in the night season when the moon is shining we know that the Sun is there for the moon is the reflection of the Sun and that's how Yeshua said he who has seen me has seen the Father for he is the Father's radiance
Yeshuas light is the Father and and our light as the body is Yeshua and this is depicted in the Sun,Moon,and stars
The Sun is the Father in a sense and the Moon is the Son,and stars are the church
@@morenamakae6588 complete nonsense
@@michelhaineault6654 why do you say that?
@@morenamakae6588 how can you compare Christ glorious spiritual body composed of the elects ones from all nations to the stars and the son to the moon and God to the sun ??? This is a pagan heresy to compare God with the sun !!!! God create the sun but he is not the sun and he created all stars and each star is producing is own light (they do not reflect light) this is why they are call luminary. Jesus is also call '' the morning star'' this is Venus but it's a symbol only because He is the first light that come in us in our darkness, Jesus being the light of the world . The creation testify OF A CREATOR . Our light as the body of Christ is GOD LIGHT IN US , only one is the light of the world and who come in us as the light , this is God Spirit in us , Jesus is God (Father) manifest in flesh .... only One Spirit above all and Jesus is the Spirit and the name above all given to men.
Stars are sometime use as symbol for angels in heaven but stars are not angels
Kel!!!! My dear friend showed me your channel. Together we have been going over your videos and articles for the last three months, compiling notes. I brought the “trinity delusion” to my local Bible study today! To be fair I met with a lot of pushback. They like to play Bible Badminton… where they just keep lobbing verses “over the net” but I was able to confidently respond back! I gave the leaders copies of my notes (a big binder topic by topic) They agreed to read it … now we shall see. Praying hard for the lights to come on even if it’s just one person at a time! Thank you for ALL of your hard work. Your library or resources is truly a wealth of information !!
Truth Brother Kel. Keep teaching GOD's truth. Thank you. You are ministering effectively.
Amen brother Kel ! God Bless the TRUTH & May it TRAVEL FAR & WIDE ! ❤ In Jesus Christ NAME !
It does not end in "The Father and I are One." or in "I am in the Father and the Father is in me."
John 17:20-21
20I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of 👉those who will believe in Me through their message,
21that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
the truth is utterly beautiful. how could anyone shun the good news?
Wonderful Brother Kel, thanks for sharing. God bless you.
love it
That’s is why Thomas said : my lord and my God when he saw Jesus resurrected. Now He not only saw his messiah but also his God IN Jesus . Finally he gets it : if you seen me you have seen the father ( God)
Yep.
Thomas was seeing the resurrected JESUS and He call Him : My Lord and my God . This is what the text say , don't change it.
@@michelhaineault6654 that’s what I said
@@michelhaineault6654 Nobody needs to "change it." You only need to listen to Jesus. He who has seen the man Jesus has see the Father and Jesus explained precisely HOW in the very next breath.
Jesus also told Thomas blessed are they who haven't seen me, but believe. Thomas also had an unbelief problem. So it was hard for him to grasp God raising Jesus from the dead.
Speaking of the Father, Christ says in John 14:23 "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him and make OUR abode with him." Titus 2:13 also clearly indicates that Christ AND the Father are coming together at some point in the future. I pray that everyone will start reading their Bibles, especially these two scriptures... It is important as scripture tells us that only those who recognize Christ as the son of God will be saved. Read 1 John 4:15 please...
See also 1 Timothy 6:14-16.
Jesus is clearly teaching that he is the Holy Spirit in us being the holy Spirit of the Father IN US. = WE will come unto him and make OUR abode with him. ( who make is abode in us ? It's the Holy Spirit) Jesus and the Father are the Holy Spirit IN US. Not two spirit but ONE.
The verses starts with a singular noun.... Speaking of a man... So when Christ says We will come unto him (the man) and make our abode with him (the man) then the man can not be included in the we.... Rules of grammar apply the same in both Greek and English.... It should also be noted that this whole chapter clearly starts off with a discussion of what will happen at his coming... read verse 3... The discussion in this chapter continues to be about his coming... Read verse 21 that proceeds 23 that we are discussing ... And the discussion is still about his coming when we arrive at John 14:28 where we are still talking about his coming... To deny the Father is coming too is to deny Christ's own words and to deny the whole context of this chapter.
@@preppingforprophecy7680 the verse clearly say '' WE will come unto him and make OUR abode with him. ( who make is abode in us ? It's the Holy Spirit) Jesus came to baptize us of THE HOLY SPIRIT this is how we are saves.....He make is abide in us IN SPIRIT and this is why Paul is saying: Gal.2: 20I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.
It's Christ who lives in us.... and nobody else.We have to die to ourself to be in Christ Holy Spirit, it's him IN US who conduct us and teach us , we are under is will. This is how we are born from Heaven... we have to die before we can be resurrected in Spirit.
@@michelhaineault6654 Certainly the spirit is coming with Christ when he returns; but do you believe that Christ is coming as the king of God's kingdom but the Father himself is not coming too? Why does the prophecy in Joel 2:27-28 tells us we will know the Father is in the midst of Israel and then AFTERWARDS he will pour out his spirit on ALL FLESH? It is because the major fulfillment of this prophecy has not occured yet. The prophecy in John chapter 14 refers to this MAJOR future prophecy as well as to the MINOR fulfillment of prophecy that occurred at Pentecost in the first century. John chapter 14 makes it abundantly evident that it too is a prophecy with two fulfillments as Christ speaks of his coming in at least 5 verses - John 14:3, 18, 21, 23, and 28. To look at John 14 and to only see a first century fulfillment is ignoring Joel's prophecy and Christ's future coming.
Yes, the same blindness in Trinitarian thinking happens in their rendition of John's prologue...they supposedly believe in a unity of 3 persons; yet the Word is Jesus, and not the Father....????? When it suits their interpretation, Jesus becomes independent and isolated and even "self -existent".
Should we render worship to Truth and Life or no? (John 14:6)
The way to the Father is through his Son. One mediator
Hi, Brother Kel. I think it would be a good idea to let us know what translation of the bible you are using. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but so if we want to read and study this, we will know what translation to look for. Thanks for everything you are doing to get the TRUTH out to the world.
I don't rely on English translations.
Please if you get this, psalm 91 is confusing me. I am using NKJV. My confusion is coming at chapter13 to 16.
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, LIKE UNTO THEE, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Jesus would be a prophet like Moses.
Num 12:6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
Num 12:7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.
Num 12:8 With him will I SPEAK MOUTH TO MOUTH, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?
Jesus being a prophet like Moses when he speaks it's the Father speaking through him. If you ask Jesus to show the Father of course the Father in him will reply. The Father was literally in Jesus speaking through him.
Well, you can just compare the style of speech in the Old Testament and the New Testament as well. Compare God's words with Jesus words.
Hi Brother Ke! You have pointed out what the scriptures say in John and 1 John, about the Father and the Son and you say, "it would be absurd to conceive of the Son without the Father", that is correct. How do we know the Father?
The Father is the Eternal Spirit that is the life of the Son of Man Jesus, 1 John 5:11. It is The Eternal Spirit that is from the Beginning, known as The Word. It is this Eternal Spirit through whom all things came into being, including Man. It is the same Eternal Spirit that returned to the body of the Son of Man Jesus, bringing him back to life from the dead, Hebrews 9:14.
1 John 1:1-2, ...the Eternal Life (the Spirit) which was 'with the Father' (His Father) and was revealed to us. The Son himself tells us that 'His Father' is Greater than He is, John 14:28. The Son said, "...I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God", John 20:17.
The Spirit Son of God Created us, John 1:2-3, so He is a Father to us. His Father, having been revealed to us through the Son, is now Our Father and Our God, Matthew 11:27.
I haven't ignored nor contradicted Christs words at all. He always says He is Bread of Life our God and Savior. The Father Sends God the Son from Heaven for our Salvation, for Salvation is of the Lord not from us or our own dead works. The Father and Son Send Spirit and both Breathe Spirit to create and to empower disciples.
Yes you did contradict him. He said that he doesn't glorify himself concerning who he is because it would mean nothing. But you claim that in the very next breath he did glorify himself concerning who he is and it means everything. Have you no shame?
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Ephraim is a burnt offering made by fire to the Lord who authorized him
Hosea 7/8 Ephraim is Anointed One among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned.
(Like I said a burnt offering, the bread he gives is his body)
9 Outsiders have devoured his strength and he does not know; yes, grey hairs are sprinkled on him and he does not know. 10 And the
Pride of Israel testifies to his face, yes they do not return to Yahweh their Elohim, nor search for Him for all this. 11
Ephraim also is like an innocent dove without heart; they call to Egypt; they go to Assyria. 12 Wherever they go I will spread my Net over them; I will bring them down like the birds of the skies; I will chastise them in keeping with what their congregation has heard.
What their congregation has heard is the report given to them in Revelation 2 & 3 from the visions that were given to John and told by Ephraim to write down when John heard the voice behind him it was the glory of Ephraim the God who is(living)who was(dead)who is coming(finally arrived at that point)the Almighty... He is the Revelation 12 sign
Hosea 9/11 the glory of Ephraim will fly away like a bird - no birth, no one with child, no conceiving. (Already killed & resurrected)
12 Though they bring up their children, I will make them childless.
Yes, woe also to them when I depart from them!
13 Ephraim, as I saw Tyrus, is planted in a pleasant place(received up in heaven 1,260 days), but Ephraim will bring out his sons to the murderer.......I will chastise them in keeping with what their congregation has heard -Hosea 7/12
Jeremiah 48/40 he will fly with eagle wings over Moab
Matthew 24/28 For wherever I am, the carcass, in that place will be assembled the eagle.
Jesus and the father are 1 in the same.
Jesus is not his father.
@TheTrinityDelusion Jesus is God revealed in the flesh. Read the scriptures, Isaiah 9:6-7
@@caesarroe1283 The only God is his God.
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@TheTrinityDelusion Not according to the scriptures, but according to you is different seems like you are preaching a different gospel.
@@caesarroe1283 According to the Scriptures the only God is the God of Jesus.
I think that a lot of confusion is because this relationship is not understood or accepted. This unity/ oneness between Father and son.
Jesus was VERY careful to give his every word and deed as coming from the Father.
It seems like Trinitarians prefer to ignore a thousand clear scriptures in favor of a few vague scriptures.
GOD is a HE / Jesus is Son of God. .... That is the Shama / That is the message of Salvation.
When you ignore that foundation, you are living in contradiction.
Hello, I know these things also, But I have some questions. I hold the view that there is a trinity, but it is just misunderstood. Its, not three persons, but it's one person. The problem is the use of this word "person". The only trinity is that God revealed himself in these3 distinct ways. Is that not considered a trinity? God wanted us to know that he revealed himself in these 3 ways that is why we have verses, like baptize them in the name of the Father , The son, and the Holy Ghost. The reason I say this is because the name of your channel implies that the entire idea of the trinity is a delusion, but in my view most of Christianity just has a wrong understanding of it. Looking forward to any replies I can get. Thanks.
The only true God is the God of Jesus. We know who that is and is not. Anything else just confuses the facts.
Trinity World believes Jesus showed up because he is the second God of the Trinity Godhead not the Father but Jesus says I have come in my Fathers Name but if some person comes in his own name you'll except him?
let me help you , Jesus is the Father , Jesus is the spirit , we have ONE GOD , believe what scripture says , not a convincing youtube video , isaiah 9:6 , he is the Father , read it , romans 8:9 , he is the spirit , read it , John 1:1 he is the word and the word is God , read it , 1timothy 3:16 , God manifest in the flesh , rev 1:8 Jesus claims to be alpha and omega , which is impossible unless you're God the Father , which , God is the Father , "God the Father" as seen in scripture. Let me end this real simple , and then you go study more , theres WAY MORE than what im giving , this is a lightbulb moment to begin , concerning the Father , Jesus says , henceforth from here on , you KNOW HIM and ... HAVE SEEN HIM , referring to himself , simple , scripture says hes the visible image of the invisible God , hes a manifestation / form of God me and you can know and see my brother brian , otherwise we cant see GOD ever in any way , with Jesus we can and with Jesus he can as it says "purchase us with HIS OWN BLOOD" . The word WAS GOD and the word was made flesh , thus , made visible , so if the word IS GOD and its made visible , doesn't that line up perfect with scripture , Jesus is the visible image of God... and now , concerning the spirit , romans 8:9 , spirit of God , is , the spirit of Christ , and Jesus said i will not leave you comfortless , I WILL COME TO YOU , the comforter , who my Father ( flesh referring to the spirit , God is not flesh , he manifest IN flesh he himself created by making his own word , which is him , flesh , he jumped in that body to use it for our sake ) now , he says , the comforter , whom my Father will send IN MY NAME ... so now you see , Jesus is God , Jesus is the Father and Jesus is the spirit , now matt 28 19 can finally make sense , baptize in THE NAME ( singular , not names , although its foolish to say Father or son or spirit is a name and not a title ) ...in THE NAME of the Father , son , spirit , why? JESUS CHRIST is the name and thats why peter commanded baptism in the name of Jesus Christ because he understood all this . Comforter he will send IN MY NAME and Jesus said i come in MY FATHERS NAME and the sons name is JESUS CHRIST , make sense now why all this talk of MY NAME all the time , we can go deeper , this should get you motivated to open scripture , a king james , ignore all these man made traditions , videos and slander with labels "oneness" "kjv only" or whatever garbage they say , its a devil made tactic to steer you from truth , ASK JESUS if im a liar , you do trust Jesus right? if im a liar , he will confirm it , if not , he will open your eyes , whats key on your part then? humble your heart , God resists the proud , if you really want truth and not to burn in hell , let God reveal it himself , not a youtuber , not a church building pastor , JESUS HIMSELF , open your king james bible , Jesus will never lie to you , if you ask for a fish , he wont give you a snake , you ask for truth , he wont give a lie , but you cant exhalt a prior belief over what he shows you , you need to be humble and if he proves your belief wrong , accept it , repent , move on , no need to be embarassed , whats embarassing is to clutch a lie all the way to hell , anything beyond what i just told you of who Jesus / God is , is idolatry , and heresy , these send you to hell , the other devilish lie they say , its not a salvation issue , yes it is , and thats why Jesus said "if ye believe not IAM he , ye shall die in your sins" and this is why they wanted to stone Jesus , they knew exactly the claim he was making .
IAM is God , the HE Jesus mentions is God and IAM he definitely referred to him being God , which is why he said , before abraham was IAM , not "my God is , my Father is" no ...IAM , HE claimed to be IAM , and thats why he said , destroy this temple i will raise it up , not my God will raise it up , my Father will raise it up , I WILL RAISE IT UP , he is the Father , speaking to them , through a body he himself made from his own word which IS HIM , is your word some other person? of course not , its you , Gods all powerful , he can make his into a manifestation , we cant , and so not only this , the invisible spirit , God the Father , the holy spirit was IN this body , God was standing right there and they had no idea , pride ................. they definitely knew who he claimed to be , they took up stones.
i hope this helps you , these guys are lying on God and if they dont repent , they will spend eternity in hellfire , do not follow them there because you like them , the doctrine sounds easier to follow , the words sound sweet , or any reason , God said to respect persons is a sin , follow JESUS and obey the word of God , ignore the rest.
Adam,Moses,Abraham and Muhammad teaching to the people were submit to ONE GOD. All same teaching of Islam from first prophet to last prophet to worship the ONE CREATOR of the universe.
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Is Kel Oneness or Unitarian, I can't tell?
Unitarian.
He doesn’t say that Jesus IS the father as oneness people do . But he says that the father is IN Jesus . Just as Christ is IN us .
Brother Kel listens to Jesus and needs no silly labels of man.
You shouldn't ask such questions for it refers to the world and not to Christ.
John 14:1 says to only believe in God and His Son and this was the preparation that you shouldn't believe in any third God and John 17:3 says eternal life is to know the true God and His Son and this is the ending that you will only find life in the two not three...a third is a masquerading Spirit that will only lead astray
Yeshua glorified one with the Father John 7:37-39 is our Comforter John 1:14 not any other, Yeshua glorified one with the Father is the Spirit 2cor 3:17 that sets us free for he is the truth and he is the only way and life to the Father John 14:6,the only mediator between God and men 1timothy 2:5 the Spirit who INTERCEDES for us in Romans 8 and leads us from within Colossians 1:27 and he is the only shepherd,the only door to enter in and go out John 10
Trinity is satanic
So are you inferring that Jesus existed prior to his birth. Curious
Jesus did not exist as a self conscious person before his birth.
@The Trinity Delusion I'm not so sure what you are saying, I believe that in the plan of God , God knew when and where Jesus would be born. But other than that I'm not going further, if he existed pre birth then he would not be a real human . But thank you for your reply, I truly enjoy watching and learning from your videos. Having been a trinity believer for 55 plus years, but even then I never believed Jesus preexisted.
@@TheTrinityDelusion I somewhat agree with your answer here, But I was wondering if you know that God appeared as a man on 3 separate occasions in the Torah (Old Testament)? and so I think that Jesus before his birth was just God essentially. He simply hadn't taken on flesh yet.
Isaiah 40:3. LORD = Father.
John (greatest prophet ever born among women), prepared the way for the LORD not the Lord.
The lamb of God is the Holy Spirit that speaks the WORD thru his prophets/sons/suffering servants/witnesses/very elect/firsrfruits/Zech 7:12.
As noted in Revelation with 7 horns and 7 eyes.
this guys still lost or lies on purpose , if i understand you , you have been revealed by God that Jesus IS GOD , IS the Father , IS the spirit , all seen in scripture , the word made flesh , a visible image of the invisible GOD , and many are not aware of isaiah 40:3 , thats a real gem , LORD , Jesus is Father GOD and no one else , one GOD from deut 6:4 , he does not change , malachi 3:6 , This is why when Jesus said baptize in the name of the father son spirit , peter understood clearly what that meant and used "THE NAME" , Jesus Christ , which is the name of those forms / manifestations of Father God. These carnal minds think GOD is limited , not realising , he can have as many forms as he chooses , all at once , he fills all space , they also don't realise the scriptures where the flesh speaks to or OF , the spirit , God is not flesh , he is a spirit , he manifest IN the flesh , which was his WORD , made flesh , which his word in John 1 , IS GOD ... they neglect ALL of this and MUCH MORE. Rev 1:8 says Jesus is the beginning and the end ...there is only ONE beginning and ONE end ..GOD the Father , the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY , Jesus Christ , as he rightfully claimed , which is why ONE is SEEN on the throne , "seen" , Jesus ......not an invisible spirit , and no other person standing beside him , right hand means power , Jesus sits on the throne of power , if they bothered to study scriptures on this , they would have learned it , its even in the gospels .
i forgot to mention about Jesus being the spirit , roman 8:9 , spirit of God , spirit of Christ , Jesus says i wont leave you comfortless I WILL COME TO YOU , the comforter whom the Father will send IN MY NAME .
Why God speak and console me with his sprit though I am trinitarian?
You'll have to ask Him
@@TheTrinityDelusion whom shoud I ask? I am asking you with genuine heart.I am not intellectually convinced by the doctrine of the Trinity.Your teaching makes sense for me at intellectual level but I have had very tangible internal witness of the holysprit long before hearing any kind of oneness or Unitarian teaching. This is mysterious to me and this is what holds me back to reject trinitarian doctrine.
Secondly, I think trinitarianism is more congruent with the early history of the church/Apostolic fathers/ Shouldn't we care about what the historical church believe? Do you think there hasn't ever true church after the apostles?
Please clearly answer these questions with due respect.
@@waleligndebalke1665 If you are wondering why God is doing whatever He is doing with you, why would you ask me? Ask Him. God is more concerned about your heart than your doctrine.
@@waleligndebalke1665 No we shouldn't care what church fathers or the early church believe.
We have to care what Jesus was preaching and what the apostles were spreading.
In the letters of John you already see a falling away from the truth.
That truth is the man Christ Jesus and not the early church or church fathers*
Who did they thought they were? Jesus gave his life for the church of his God and Father.
There's no room for church fathers; it's heresy.
"Call no one father for there is one father who is your Father in heaven".
Those fake church fathers tried to replace God with themselves.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Thank you brother.I got you! To be honest Matthew 28:19 and John 16 /about the holysprit/ are the only evidences for believing in the Trinity. No one has ever clearly showed me why we should baptise in the name of the holysprit and the son if they are not God along with the father.Does it make sense ? Why we baptise in the name of these two? If I got the answer for this against the Trinity doctrine my believe in the Trinity will crash.But I love God the father of Jesus Christ our Lord.I wanna know him in his full nature.I don't wanna worship my own image of him.Pray for me!
You are right about distinction between the Father, Son and Spirit but in grave error in declaring the Son and Spirit as created and impersonal energy. In John 14:23 Jesus as God says WE will come to live in you (Father, Son and Spirit). In the Beginning God said Let US make man in Our Image says the One God Father, Son and Spirit. Jesus says I and the Father are One John 10:30. Jesus receives Thomas Worship and Thomas declares to Him My Lord and My God John 20:28. Revelation 1 and 2 and Isaiah 44:6 God and Christ God is First and the Last the Almighty.
What planet are you on? Nobody said anything about the Spirit as "created and impersonal energy."
Never mind the how oh faithless one but turn and believe in our Triune God
Not boasting answer but how Jesus by Spirit chose to reveal He was Lord and God.
You are still ignoring and contradicting what Jesus said.
Jesus is revealed as a God with a GOD above Him, though He is clearly not the Most High GOD of whom are all things.
It is you running from the True God Father, Son and Spirit. Fear God and repent to Christ our God.
Scripture is of very paramount importance to me for it reveals our Gods plan and covenant to me through Christ our Lord, Savior and God. If you keep denying that and peddling a false Christ then that is your problem. If you were children of God you would know Christ as God and Judge. Your speaking proves you don't know God at all and are headed for disaster. Of course when Christ Comes again so does the Father and the Holy Spirit, for God is One and Coming Again.
The children of God know that the only true God is the God of Jesus.
you need to repent , Jesus made it clear he is GOD and he is the Father , and just as he told the pharasees , im telling you , if ye believe not IAM he , ye shall die in your sins....................... since you like to highlight and underline "HE" ironically . Now , i just began this heretical video , but , do you wanna explain how someone will "see him as he is" when Gods an invisible spirit? the answer is simple , Jesus is the visible image because he is the WORD OF GOD who is GOD , John 1 makes this clear , not some other person , GODS word itself , manifest in a form which is visible to us , thus , you seen me , you seen the Father...pretty simple .
Jesus even seen henceforth from here you know him and have SEEN HIM talking of the Father , you need to repent and obey God sir , Jesus Christ , or you will indeed be in the lake of fire for this heresy . I am not here for a peeing contest , i care for your soul , ask Jesus for revelation , this is not it , Jesus made it clear , i am the beginning and the end.......im sorry , is there two beginnings and ends now? or is that then the Father? i've seen enough of your clips to know your personality , which is where the sarcasm comes from , most importantly , i want the truth to break your pride and open your understanding .
you seem confused about GODS power to manifest , be in other forms all at one time as if he's not all powerful and everywhere at once which the psalms and jeremiah will affirm. He does not need anything or anyone seperate from himself to do ANYTHING , beside him , there is no other savior , which is why Jesus can be the savior , Jesus is God , is the savior , beside him , none else , he will not share glory , yet Jesus has glory and is worshipped even of angels , no contradiction , he is GOD ... who is the Father ... the trinity is a lie but so is this .
Small time r 3, Jesus is equally God forever yes even if Fathers Role in Godhead is Leader of Son and Spirit .
let me help you , Jesus is the Father , Jesus is the spirit , we have ONE GOD , believe what scripture says , not a convincing youtube video , isaiah 9:6 , he is the Father , read it , romans 8:9 , he is the spirit , read it , John 1:1 he is the word and the word is God , read it , 1timothy 3:16 , God manifest in the flesh , rev 1:8 Jesus claims to be alpha and omega , which is impossible unless you're God the Father , which , God is the Father , "God the Father" as seen in scripture. Let me end this real simple , and then you go study more , theres WAY MORE than what im giving , this is a lightbulb moment to begin , concerning the Father , Jesus says , henceforth from here on , you KNOW HIM and ... HAVE SEEN HIM , referring to himself , simple , scripture says hes the visible image of the invisible God , hes a manifestation / form of God me and you can know and see my brother brian , otherwise we cant see GOD ever in any way , with Jesus we can and with Jesus he can as it says "purchase us with HIS OWN BLOOD" . The word WAS GOD and the word was made flesh , thus , made visible , so if the word IS GOD and its made visible , doesn't that line up perfect with scripture , Jesus is the visible image of God... and now , concerning the spirit , romans 8:9 , spirit of God , is , the spirit of Christ , and Jesus said i will not leave you comfortless , I WILL COME TO YOU , the comforter , who my Father ( flesh referring to the spirit , God is not flesh , he manifest IN flesh he himself created by making his own word , which is him , flesh , he jumped in that body to use it for our sake ) now , he says , the comforter , whom my Father will send IN MY NAME ... so now you see , Jesus is God , Jesus is the Father and Jesus is the spirit , now matt 28 19 can finally make sense , baptize in THE NAME ( singular , not names , although its foolish to say Father or son or spirit is a name and not a title ) ...in THE NAME of the Father , son , spirit , why? JESUS CHRIST is the name and thats why peter commanded baptism in the name of Jesus Christ because he understood all this . Comforter he will send IN MY NAME and Jesus said i come in MY FATHERS NAME and the sons name is JESUS CHRIST , make sense now why all this talk of MY NAME all the time , we can go deeper , this should get you motivated to open scripture , a king james , ignore all these man made traditions , videos and slander with labels "oneness" "kjv only" or whatever garbage they say , its a devil made tactic to steer you from truth , ASK JESUS if im a liar , you do trust Jesus right? if im a liar , he will confirm it , if not , he will open your eyes , whats key on your part then? humble your heart , God resists the proud , if you really want truth and not to burn in hell , let God reveal it himself , not a youtuber , not a church building pastor , JESUS HIMSELF , open your king james bible , Jesus will never lie to you , if you ask for a fish , he wont give you a snake , you ask for truth , he wont give a lie , but you cant exhalt a prior belief over what he shows you , you need to be humble and if he proves your belief wrong , accept it , repent , move on , no need to be embarassed , whats embarassing is to clutch a lie all the way to hell , anything beyond what i just told you of who Jesus / God is , is idolatry , and heresy , these send you to hell , the other devilish lie they say , its not a salvation issue , yes it is , and thats why Jesus said "if ye believe not IAM he , ye shall die in your sins" and this is why they wanted to stone Jesus , they knew exactly the claim he was making .
IAM is God , the HE Jesus mentions is God and IAM he definitely referred to him being God , which is why he said , before abraham was IAM , not "my God is , my Father is" no ...IAM , HE claimed to be IAM , and thats why he said , destroy this temple i will raise it up , not my God will raise it up , my Father will raise it up , I WILL RAISE IT UP , he is the Father , speaking to them , through a body he himself made from his own word which IS HIM , is your word some other person? of course not , its you , Gods all powerful , he can make his into a manifestation , we cant , and so not only this , the invisible spirit , God the Father , the holy spirit was IN this body , God was standing right there and they had no idea , pride ................. they definitely knew who he claimed to be , they took up stones.
i hope this helps you , these guys are lying on God and if they dont repent , they will spend eternity in hellfire , do not follow them there because you like them , the doctrine sounds easier to follow , the words sound sweet , or any reason , God said to respect persons is a sin , follow JESUS and obey the word of God , ignore the rest.
The Father, Son and Spirit are always mentioned of as Distinct Personalities yet One God. The Father is not the Son nor the Holy Spirit for the Son and Spirit come forth from the Father in all eternal One God action, communion and interrelation of Love and Power. In Creation, guidance to us, in the Recreation to be born again in Christ, to raise Christ Up and all things One in Action. Let US make man says One God. Gen 1, and We will come to you says God in Christ John 14:23.
It is more than plain that Scriptural facts do not matter to you. It is also more than plain that your own fleshly desires are what matter to you - what you want to be true rather than what actually is. Why you do this is beyond comprehension.
Ambassadors of a president come in the behalf of the president. They represent exactly what the president expects and requires. A son cant be a son without a father and a father cant be a father without a child. Elementary stuff. Dont try to improve the Son of God's resume by forcing him to be more than he ever claimed to be other than the son of God. They are one in agreement. But Jesus died for 3 dayd. God raised him on the 3rd. If the Father can die...you are delusional. No one has ever seen God. Jesus was seen. 😊
You seem to be under the mistaken conclusion that someone said Jesus is the Father. Try again. And while you are at it, read John 14:9 again.
Its up to you to turn to the true God Father, Son and Spirit.I cannot do that for you. You are paving your way to the Eternal Lake of Fire Bye
Its you that has no shame in denying God come in the flesh as John 1 and all the Bible and prophecies point to.
Only in your vain fleshly desires.
Jesus didnot always boast to everyone that He is God. He is more Hidden Servant, especially to the Pharisees that would never believe in Him, yet He did reveal even to them at His illegal trial showing He is Gods equal from Daniel 7:13 prophecy of Jesus Exaltation after death on the Cross back to equal Glory He Shared with the Father and the Holy Spirit in the Beginning before ALL creation.
"Jesus didnot always boast to everyone that He is God."
Just sometimes eh?
So it is equal but not equal in your view - makes perfect sense
That said, it should be noted that the glory Jesus shared with His Father, was from the Father, and that He would share it with His followers.
I speak by the Living Holy Spirit and Word to you, whereas you speak by carnal flesh in denying Christ your God, Savior and Lord and Messiah.
You also most certainly will stand before our Judge and God Jesus. Then it will be too late for you in denying He is your Lord God and Savior.
You seem to think that if you keep telling yourself your own lies it will somehow validate them. Sorry but that won't work for you. The only God is the God of Jesus and that is a fact from which you can never escape.
Yes, you have made God the Holy Spirit as impersonal energy in same way that you make Christ into a created idol but Christ is God. The Holy Spirit is God.
"Yes, you have made God the Holy Spirit as impersonal energy"
Now you are just telling lies. I'm not surprised.
Absolute error. The only true God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Come to Truth friends. Jesus said He is Truth God Incarnate and Holy Spirit is God and Truth. I will stick with scripture and not phony, hypocritical, damnable heresies. If you don't honor the Son as God then you don't honor His Father who Sent Him and is His Equal. You have no facts, only babbling babylon teachings deceiving the ignorant.
Jesus taught otherwise. There is only one God and that one God is his God. But you don't obviously care about the facts since you persistently refuse to acknowledge any of them and would rather pass off your personal contraptions as "facts." The only thing you care about is your doctrinal idol which you desire to serve. Your personal desires won't be able to help you when you stand before the Judge.
IF YOU SEE '' ME '' you see the Father So Jesus show the Father as being him ; You see ME ... ( God in the flesh) Also Jesus say HE WILL RESURRECT HIMSELF ( normal He is the resurrection and life, only God can BE this ) John2:19 Jesus answered, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up again.” and I WILL RAISE IT UP (Jesus was speaking of is death and resurrection and clearly say it's is HIM who will rise Himself)
Scripture also say : " Acts 3:15: "You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead." ( Jesus or the Father are the same one)
Romans 10:9 kjv. and John 7:16-17 kjv "whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself" Who is the Living Temple and who dwells in his Living Temple? Revelation 21:3 kjv
Who is the High Priest? Who is the Anointed? Who is the Lamb? Not God, he is none of these!
Who sent Messiah? Whose will did Messiah follow? Who commands Messiah in wat to say? God....God is the Answer!
Who died? Who prayed to God our Father? Who is the Lamb that takes the book from God in Revelation Ch 5? Yeshua!
Can God be tempted by Satan? Can God die? Has any man seen the face of God and lived? No!
You are not able to understand who is speaking in scripture "whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself" you can't tell the difference and yes, there is a clear difference or our Messiah would not tell us.
You are lost!
30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
Who is talking here? "whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself" Do you not understand? Are you that blind or brainwashed you are unable to see the truth?
@@tmcge3325 if you SEE ME you SEE THE FATHER This is a proof that Jesus is the Father in the flesh as teach in 1Tim.3:16 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.(It's God here and we know it's also Jesus, God (Father) been receive UP IN GLORY mmmm the text cannot lie but men do !
@@tmcge3325 tell me can you say ''if you see me you see the Father '' ??? Can you forgive sins ??? Are YOU the the resurrection and eternal life ? But Jesus is all this AND MUCH MORE , he will judge and resurrect ALL MEN at the end and He is not the Almighty one ???? OH YES HE IS rev1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.... ( This is all about Jesus and He is call THE ALMIGHTY ) You cannot make the distinction between THE FLESH AND SPIRIT (Jesus mind ) , as a man Jesus can be tempted and die but as God IN FLESH He could perform supernatural miracles and forgive sins and resurrect Himself..... a man cannot perform this only God is the unique Savior and giver of life as Jesus is .
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Is the Father in you? If God does his works through you do people see God through those works or do they not? Aren’t all who are in Christ one with the Father as well? Aren’t all who are one with the Father a light in this world?
Forgiving sins.
Mathew “9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.
9:7 And he arose, and departed to his house.
9:8 But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.”KJV
They glorified God which had given such power unto MEN.
Jesus is the resurrection and the life. But don’t stop there, keep reading.
John “11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world. KJV
Martha knew exactly who Jesus was. Did she say you are God incarnate? No. Did she say you are God? No. She said you are the anointed, son of God.
The very verses you quoted answer themselves if you just keep reading.
God comes on the clouds. So does Jesus in Creation and the Second Coming. He said I and the Father are One. John 10:30 and Jesus said He met Abraham in Pre Incarnate appearance to Abraham and ate veal with him. Genesis 18. The Jews like you seeked to stone Jesus for claiming equality with God the Father.John 8:58. In John 6:62 Jesus speaks of His Ascending on His Own Power as God to where He was before. In Hebrews 1:8 God the Father says of Son as God that His Throne is forever and ever. The Son is equally God. John 1, Rev 1 and 2, Colossians 1, Hebrews 1. and all the Bible God is Father, Son and Spirit. I pray you change lest i continue to cast pearls before swine. 🙏
"The Jews like you seeked to stone Jesus for claiming equality with God the Father.John 8:58."
When the Jews asked him WHO he claimed to be, Jesus just got finished saying he does not glorify himself since it means nothing (8:53-54) but you tell lies and contradict him saying he did glorify himself in the highest way possible and it means everything. You keep repeating lies and you can't seem to help yourself.
@@TheTrinityDelusion IF YOU CAN'T BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD THEN I DARE YOU TO WATCH I DIED AND CAME BACK TO LIFE NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE
God sent Jesus ... the question is HOW Jesus was sent ! He did not come in a flying saucer but HE BEEN BEGOTTEN by the Spirit and this is how Jesus CAME AS THE REDEEMER . Now who is the one who came to Redeem is peoples ??? IT'S YAHWEH alone ! here is the biblical proof: Isaiah 35:3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.
4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.
9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:
10 And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.
It's the Father who WILL COME AND SAVES IS PEOPLES so Jesus is the Father in the flesh who come as the sacrificial Lamb FOR TO REDEEM IS PEOPLES.
Jesus told you how he was sent at Luke 4:18.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Yes but Luke 4:18 is confirming that Jesus is Yahweh as we see in Isaiah35 (God cannot lie) luke 4: He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, .... this is what Yahweh say He will do= Isaiah 35: 4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you. ( WHO WILL COME AND SAVES US HERE ????????????
5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. (This is what the Father will do WHEN HE WILL COME)
I repeat this fundamental teaching : WHO WILL COME AND SAVES IS PEOPLES AND HEAL THE BLIND AND THE DEAF ? Yahweh tell us IT WILL BE HIM ! So this is destroying the heresy saying Jesus is not God the Father in flesh who came as the sacrificial lamb (in flesh) for to saves is people.
@@michelhaineault6654 So Yahweh anointed Yahweh.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Yahweh is the lamb of Yahweh and the son of Yahweh.
Yahweh never did his own will but the will of Yahweh.
If Yahweh glorified himself his glory meant nothing. Therefore Yahweh glorified Yahweh.
It's sad to see how the ones without ears to hear are making complete fools out of themselves.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Messiah mean ANOINTED ONE God is the Messiah he Himself say I WILL COME AND SAVES MY PEOPLES .... The Messiah is God in the flesh so Jesus was perfectly a man and He was anointed by the Spirit being begotten by the same Spirit. God begot is own temple not made from man hand but made by Him, this is why Jesus is THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE FATHER ,the true living tabernacle of the Father on earth, this is why Jesus was without sins, God cannot sin, the flesh can be tempted but God cannot sin. Nobody can say '' if you see me you see the Father'' ( in flesh) if you cannot understand this you are in big trouble. Jesus was to be call by the name : '' everlasting Father and MIGHTY GOD '' ...this is the truth and the true God .When Jesus say I AM the way I AM the truth I AM the eternal life he clearly describe him as being Yahweh in flesh because only Yahweh can be all this.
I just feel sorry for you trapped in delusion of devil being against Christ our God.
It would be good if you see a psychologist about your problem.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Revelation 2:8 ESV
“And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life.
Luke 1:37 ESV
For nothing will be impossible with God.”
John 1:1 ESV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 ESV
He was in the beginning with God.
John 1:14 ESV
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 8:58 ESV
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
Isaiah 9:6 ESV
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
1 Corinthians 8:6 ESV
Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are "ALL" things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are "ALL" things and through whom we exist.
John 1:3 ESV
All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Colossians 1:15-17 ESV / 175 helpful votes
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
John 14:9 ESV
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
John 20:28 ESV
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
John 14:6 ESV
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 1:18 ESV
No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.
2 Peter 1:1 ESV
Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
Hebrews 1:3 ESV
He is the radiance of the glory of God and the EXCACT imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
Revelation 1:8 ESV
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Isaiah 7:14 ESV
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. = GOD WITH US
John 3:16 ESV
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in HIM BEING "JESUS" should not perish but have eternal life.
Hebrews 1:2-3 ESV
But in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
Titus 2:13 ESV
Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
John 10:33 ESV
The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”
Matthew 1:23 ESV
“Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us).
John 8:24 ESV
I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”
Isaiah 44:6 ESV
Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
Hebrews 13:8 ESV
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
Acts 4:12 ESV
And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
Colossians 1:16-17 ESV
For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
John 10:28-30 ESV
I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”
2 Corinthians 4:4 ESV
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
John 5:18 ESV
This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Revelation 22:13 ESV
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
John 17:5 ESV
And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
Revelation 1:17-18 ESV
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.
Romans 5:8 ESV
But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Hebrews 1:1-3 ESV
Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
Philippians 2:5-7 ESV
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
Matthew 14:33 ESV
And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”
Matthew 28:9 ESV
And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.
Hebrews 1:6 ESV
And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's angels worship him.”
John 5:23 ESV
That all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.
2 Corinthians 13:14 ESV
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
John 14:13 ESV
Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Isaiah 43:11 ESV
I, I am the Lord, and besides me there is no savior.
John 8:28 ESV
So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me.
1 Timothy 2:5 ESV
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Isaiah 42:8 ESV
I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols.
Romans 10:9 ESV
Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
1 John 5:20 ESV
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
John 3:18 ESV
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
John 1:1-3 ESV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 20:27-28 ESV
Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
Colossians 1:15 ESV
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
Colossians 1:16 ESV
For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him.
Revelation 2:8 ESV
“And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life.
John 9:35-38
Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” He answered, “And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?” Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.” He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.
myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’
I don't think they are against Christ, it seems like they are simply saying that Christ is God. Him and the Father are really one person, and this would be true if you examine the scriptures.