A point about longsword technique
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- Some words on how to and how not to use a longsword, followed by some playful speculation regarding a technique I came up with while fiddling about with my new longsword.
There are good reasons why one shouldn't swing very hard with a longsword. One day I might mention a few more.
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0:42 was the exact moment i got a heart attack
A wild Lloyd appeared.
Dark spirit?
😂😂😂😂
Whoopsie
Роман Гогешвили purple eyed
I love this guy's personality. He's oddly charismatic and just looks like a mentor father figure type. Awesome.
30 seconds. 30 seconds of the word long accompanied by rambling and I loved every second.
Moax Lycan long and hard all day long baby
"hurt him enough that he can't hurt me back" The beat way to describe any fighting style or Marshall art ever
Marshall.
epiclolman57 "haha, you werent expecting that!"
epiclolman57 no disrespect but it's spelled martial
*salutes* Marshall Art!
Despite Mojave's typo they have a point. The aim of most if not all successful martial arts, in a self-defense context, seem to have the same goal. Especially considering legality issues and necessary use of force, I would say a true swordsman should be in control and should be adept at being able to simply neutralize an opponent, not dismember them with blood fountain-spraying all over the place like in Kill Bill.
In reality most people will either submit or go full force if you give them a disabling cut. You follow up with deadly force if the attacker chooses the latter. I also imagine cutting limbs or torsos in half requires an accurate, follow-through cut that would be doable outdoors but harder indoors. /2cents
So...A longsword is a long sword but a long sword isn't necessarily a longsword because there were longer swords than longswords.
And yet there were swords that were long while still shorter than a longsword.
Not complicated at all.
That's why I prefer the term: "hand-and-a-half" , or "Bastard Sword". Which have been argued to be different weapons, but all share very similar proportions and can quite easily be used for "longsword" techniques
WarbananaOfDA
Those terms are quite usefull, in french it seems everyone agrees they are used to describe a sword you can use two handed without gloves (or small lether ones) and one handed with steel gauntlet, with a blade lenght from the hip to the top of the ankle (on average), while a true "longsword" (for wich, to my knowledge we use an other term that is quite uncertain) can be used confortably with 2 hands with gauntlets and have a blade length going from the hip to the ground.
This nomenclature seems to be agreed by most (for what I know)
Exactly.
It's chiefly an issue of the frame of reference. When "longswords" appeared, they were longer than the standard one-handed sword. As such, they were "long swords". Conversely, when those one-handed swords were widespread, they were also considered long swords quite frequently because they were longer than a gladius or many a seax. So depending on what you consider standard, you can consider the spatha-style sword a "longsword" compared to the gladius, or the gladius a "shortsword" compared to the spatha-style sword.
Charlemagne, for example, in a letter to Abbot Fulrad, demanded a certain kind of soldiers/knights to be armed with "spatum et semispatum" - swords and "half-swords", i.e. they were supposed to have a longer spatha-style blade to use from horseback, probably, and a shorter stabbing blade to use when fighting on foot in formation.
First 30 seconds are the best Lindy digression evar.
It is exactly this which keeps me coming back again and again.
"an extra 8 inches of stab."
0:42 JESUS CHRIST
*falls out of chair*
Heard that in the voice of King Arthur from Monty Python and the Holy Grail (specifically when the rabbit attacks)
surprise lindy is best lindy
Incredible CloSEup!
Vito C Me too Love the delivery of that line
First thing that came to me when I saw that lamp was "He's going to hit that lamp."
Turns out, he already did. Once again you delivered before the order was made, well done Lindy!
"Extra eight inches of stab." Someone's gonna be happy in bed...
That _is_ a good reason. I myself purchased the Albion Vigil because it sported double fullers, which made it look a bit like the the sword on the front cover of "Voyage of the Moonstone" in the Lone Wolf series.
Hungary!! That's where I'm from! Yay, we've been mentioned on telly!
All jumpscares:
0:42
when he said, "and they wouldn't expect that " did anyone else think "no one expects the Spanish inquisition!"?
+ Timothy HeimbacH NNNNOOOOOOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION, NOOOOOBODY!
+The Ampharos Freak you win the internets for this year omg!
@@TheAmpharosFreak But the pear shaped pommel is harder to unscrew
you are the only person who explained the whole offhand swing thing to me perfectly. THANK YOU! i could tell the difference instantly
That interjection at 0:41 scared the shit out of me.
Every time i watch a video of yours, i feel slightly more educated. Thank you :)
Paint a giant eye and tape a few tendrils on that thing and pretend it's a beholder.
Great practice for your brand spanking new sword, Lindy.
TheSweetestCurse now I’m wondering if thats a ROTMG reference or an actual thing not from a video game
Your technique for extra reach exists, but you use your left hand. That way, there's no need to make the weapon slide. I remember it from my short experience with kendo.
Is there any need to make the claim that something can or should only be done exclusively with one hand?
ASaxonAtHeart Yes there is, but it was phrased wrong. You do it with your "off hand", since it is at the pummel to begin with. When you slide there is only the weight of the blade moving forwards, and that won't penetrate much. If you use your "off hand" you always have the strength of your body in the thrust :)
lakshen47 Yes i meant the off hand, the one closer to the pommel :)
JuliusAkavirius I know :)
lakshen47 I must insist that a good few years of longsword combat and weapons testing definitely suggest otherwise! I've a very good friend who often employs this technique against me with each hand, and I can assure you that both are strong enough to seriously mess with one's shit.
I love it when he uploads a new video, it is always informative and entertaining.
I can really see the amount of work put into this, really cool! You can see that he cares about these videos, great job!
Princess Bride reference at the end? Your videos keep getting better!
0:05 Trying to convince a girl at the club to come home with you...
SharkTank bruh, don’t be like that
that's pretty good lol
I like that no matter how far back you go he looks and sounds exactly the same
After talking to my instructor, I now know what's up. Using the left hand to strike is the italian technique, while using the right hand is the german technique. Very good to know!
I can see it now: A mighty warrior wielding his Prettylongsword, or better yet a Verylongsword
"I don't have to disect him, i just need to hurt him enough so that he can't hurt me back" -lindybiege
I cannot begin to tell you how much I love that final panel and was laughing for a solid minute
2:40
Swish swish
Love that sound. Brb, gonna go play with my sword.
I love how I start to take you seriously again, and then you pull the rug out at the end of your videos.
I am an american (from the USA where we call our selves quite egotistically "Americans"... but let's face it, since we are really not the only ones calling ourselves "Americans" when we mean from the United States of America, is it pure ego or is it just a shorthand that everyone mostly agrees with... and sounds better than United Statesian, or USA-an... but I digress) and as an American I have seen many "British" (yes I know not all "Brits" are English but again, it is a world view, mostly, to think of programing and content from that "general" area as "British", so that is what I am doing) TV Shows and have learned to enjoy the humor from that zone of the world with it's distinctive style.
I say all that to say that your opening about the longsword was possibly the most "British" I have seen you be since I started watching your videos. I loved it. It made me smile wider each time you said longsword or long sword or longer sword or a sword that is long and a longsword...
Anyway, take this comment as a compliment (as intended) or as a commentary or whatever you want. I just wanted to say love your videos and never stop being you!
Note: I have also been learning a thing or two about the stuff in your "Points" vids and many have given me something to think about as an avid gamer, both video and pen and paper. So more thanks.
this guy is so awesome, so humble and relatable, very at ease to watch yet very informative. thanks, dude!
This video has been unspeakably helpful in helping me to describe the scene I'm working on for my current novel. Thanks!
I would love to have seen a video of you sparring.
Fun fact:
Another positive aspect of the longsword was that they had longer, pearshaped pommels. Perfectly made for ending your opponent rightly
You and skalligrim would be great Friends
Hungary? I was hoping the Lady in the Lake gave it to you
Guy Windsor (Of the School of European Swordsmanship) mentioned that deceptive thrust in a seminar once. He said that it was one of those "secret" strikes that experienced swordsmen often had. A kind of a useful trick you could try against an opponent to catch him off guard when he thinks you've thrust too short and then you push onward. Heh, he also mentioned doubting that it'd actually work, before his sparring partner managed to get him twice with it.
Swordsmen probably had a lot of these "secrets" they came up with and learned. Probably not something you'd use in a chaotic, swirling melee situation, but like you said, they could come in handy in more controlled environment.
Many Viking sagas actually mention a similar technique with a swing, called "slipping". Quite literally, you let the sword slip in your hand as you strike, catching it by the pommel so that your reach is extended by a hilt's length during the strike. Probably not something anyone would have time to appreciate (or get fooled by) when everything's chaotic, and people aren't getting used to ranges or even paying attention to an opponent being just a bit too far away, but one on one, it'd probably be easier to fool an opponent with such a technique.
I was looking for educational videos, the intro made my hunt all the more worth it.
OH GOD! You've got a doppelganger with a GIANT HEAD!
Now I fell like I must commit myself to create a sword family called "longersword"!
Hearty Approval of Casual Princess Bride reference!
That lindy jump scare
Let me put this in simpler terms; when swinging a weapon (I was trained with staff, but that is the basis of all weapons training), you in a very real sense, use your lesser hand to leaver the weapons over your dominant hand, then follow through. This grants much more force, than forcing the weapon through with brute force, and allows for more nimble movement than would be allowed otherwise..
the problem with the "8-inch"-thrust, that you showed, is that your opponent can sidestep it and hit the weak of the blade, which will cause you to lose complete control of the blade (because it will it either move towards the ground while you hold it or you will not be able to grip it any longer and it falls to the ground)
Which is why you wouldn't use it often. It's like an extended jab in boxing. If your opponent gets used to the range of your regular jab, extending it might just catch him off.
muu106 He does misrepresent the technique slightly too.
For a thrust, the entirety of the power comes from the ground, through your body and thus through your hand.
That means that the 'sliding' action he shows here isn't going to give you a thrust that's any good (plus the extension of the arm comes before the step, but that's a different if related story).
When you do one-handed thrusts in longsword you can do them with either hand to gain more reach (though your off hand will gain you more reach, obviously), but the hands don't slide along the hilt.
Regardless, yes, one-handed thrusts are easy to turn aside - despite this, the popularity of rapier should tell you that historically this wasn't considered as that big of an issue.
Daniel,
I agree. You'd need to change your grip before you start the motion,
I smacked myself in the knee with the first "sword" I swung as a kid. I learned an important lesson that day, so glad it wasn't sharp.
I've noticed before that there are a fair number of similarities between medieval long-sword techniques and the bokken stuff I've learnt in Aikido.
I suppose it's inevitable that if you give two people from the same species the same tool they'll eventually come up with the same way of using it.
Try doing your little surprise stab with the hand that is already down near the pommel. Letting it slip around in your hands like that...hmmm I dunno. Seems like just the action of the blade extending while the grip is sliding through your hand might not have much force behind it.
“And you grab here, the pommel!” *every Italian fighter winces in agony*
0:42 - OH HELLO THERE!!
A good reason indeed. Being an American of Welsh (amongst other things) decent, I can't help but appreciate European dry humor.
Your videos are entertaining and informative. Thanks for making them, Lloyd!
I don't know what I enjoy more: the interesting things you're saying, or the way you're saying them.
My favorites were "well, I suppose they could have called them longer-swords" and "that's a good reason!!!"
By the way, reminded me of the Doctor in the first minute of the video. XD
You're fun and just great. seriously. :)
Also, by drawing back with the blade you expose your elbows, wrists, arms, and hands plus your whole bottom half to attack. A good opponent can get a cut in before you can swing forward. Getting good or even semi competent with the longsword is incredibly difficult for most of us. It requires un-learning a huge amount of instinctive movement. There's a focus on minimizing movement, learning measure and footwork and, once in a bind, using "fullen" to instantly respond to your opponent. Once you start getting the hang of it, the longsword becomes sword, spear, club, and wicked leveraging device. It plays a key role in some awesome wrestling moves as well. For example if your opponent tries to dodge out of the first wrestling, you can pitch the sword forward around his neck, grab the other end of it and bind his neck. Or you can use the space between the grip and your forearm as a kind of pincer device around his wrist. If he barrels in like a buffalo you can use your blade to deflect him to the side, and perhaps drive the pommel into his face. Or zip your blade around to his scalp while he's digging into the ground.
The big problem with those power cuts is that you telegraph your intention so your opponent can void or counter easily. A Zwerchhau will block that cut while simultaneously cutting the side of your head. That big thrust is also easily countered with a Krumphau (with big sidestep) followed by a vertical cut with the short edge to the head.
I think many people who are not trained with the use of any kind of weaponry forget: The point of combat is not to kill opponent, but make sure he doesn't kill you. If he cant fight back, alive or dead, you are free to continue to take your objective.
According to psychologist: People don't really want to kill other people.
So they either are trained to kill or convinced that killing in this case is justified. I don't believe that this mentality has ever been different.
If someone has sources to correct me: Please do share. I would be interested to learn more about this.
I remember hearing about a book on the subject, but I can't recall the name. It made a lot of sense though.
Well from a practical standpoint an the battlefield, you don't want to take too long focusing on one opponent since while your distracted..his buddy could easily put a blade through your head. They would seek to wound enough to take the fight out of them. Look at some archeological finds of battlefields, the skeletons have multiple nicks in the bones indicating many wounds..and one skull I remember seeing had been cleaved in two. Going by the angle they deduced he was lying on the ground when the killing blow was dealt.
At what point are we considering one being trained in killing? When his mums chopped off the 40th hens head? When wolves get into the goat pen? When a pigs young comes out stillborn and they eat their own young? Todays world has gotten really good at conditioning people to not be used to death; formerly it was just a fact of life.
Nice job on the commentary. Perhaps you can one day re-create the scene in James Burke's original Connections, 03 - Distant Voices, where they take a longsword and start carving up a pig? carcass. James Burke did hold the sword with his right hand up high, but unfortunately the blows were the maniacal type you showed was not likely. Although according to Burke's account, at Hastings the sides did stop fighting in the middle of the battle to have a bite to eat and rest before resuming.
If there was a third person in the area they probably wouldn't hit your hilt. They would probably get a good chop or stab into you while you left yourself completely open.
If they were in the usual position of opponents, their target would likely be my hilt/wrist. If they were in a position to hit me from the side, I'd have been a fool to try the move.
Lindybeige Touché
+Lindybeige are u merley a sword fencer or have i figured out the second half of swordsmanship?
FYI, any reference to the long sword being two-handed is merely from translations of the German terminology and not derived from Silver (1599) or Swetnam (1617). Sir Alfred Hutton, a Victorian, might have been the 1st person to use the term for a two-handed sword in English.
Swetnam’s long sword is not a two-handed sword (a common misconception on the Internet b/c of the modern classification of what is a longsword) but the same as Silver’s long sword, ie. a sword that is longer than the ideal length (at least ideal in Silver’s mind, Swetnam begged to differ). This is evident b/c Silver groups the long sword with the long rapier, and Swetnam refers to the long sword simply as sword. Swetnam says that the ideal length of the sword is four feet (much too long for Silver’s liking). To further support that the long sword in Swetnam’s (1617) and Silver’s (1599) treatises is not a two-handed sword, look no further than the French treatises : De Gaya’s Traité des Armes, 1678, p.20; Alain Manesson-Mallet, Travaux de Mars - Tome III, 1684, p.31; Père Daniel, Histoire de la Milice Françoise, 1724, plate 22, p.300 - all of which include illstrations of swords and the long sword is clearly not a two-handed sword (those are labelled espadon (Gaya p.17) and double épée (Manesson-Mallet p.30). The long sword in these French treatises match Silver’s and Swetnam’s long sword, i.e. a sword that is longer than a normal sword, four feet in length - which we are told that the long sword is also known as an estoc or estocade i.e. a tuck - NOT A TWO-HANDED SWORD! Cotgrave (1611) tells us that the tuck is a sword or rapier.
So historically in English and French, the long sword is a sword that is longer than the ideal length and similar to the Spanish sword (rapier).
I really love you videos Lindy.
I was wondering though if you could at some point talk about unarmed combat vs people with swords? Like, if you lost your sword what kind of techniques would you use to disarm or tackle your opponent?
While I'm sure that there are loads of techniques for this, against a competent opponent I'm also sure that it is very unlikely you will be alive for much longer.
I'm no expert but. Run like hell? When I was still training martial arts, my master always said that you should try to disengage when presented with a blade, 'cause no matter how good you are, you'll get cut somewhere.
The best way to disarm someone is to cut off their arms. But don't give them any warning, forewarned is fourarmed, and you will have more cutting to do. If you are unarmed yourself, it's more difficult. Your best choice then is to use your legs, but be careful, if they have a sword, you may find yourself quickly defeeted.
MrTintin850 that's hilarious! :)
StealthKab Only if the odds are against you. It is impolite to not help someone who is looking for trouble.
That second one is something I kind of wish would happen more often. Working in the service industry, when I hear someone whistling so loud that it can be heard through the whole store, I just boil with frustration.
Isn't that a zweihander?
Kidding mate, good video once again.
*Zweihänder
Hehuhehuhehu
Having the same crossguard as the sword from the movie Excaliber is legit, as it appears the movie sword lent it's design from the Discerner. The Discerner was a sword allegedly forged in 1072, and was a heirloom for the Lindsay clan in Scotland until it was buried with it's owner in 1683. But paintings of it exists.
Ok part one: this is the most British video I’ve ever seen. And the second: I have done a little training in the Korean style sword techniques, and moving from that, the only thing available in the place I lived, to a spring steel long, farther out POB was very difficult. I’ve noticed that power reduction is the key part of using a longer sword compared to a short stiff katana type weapon. I swing it so hard out of muscle memory sometimes that the sword nearly wobbles out of my hand.
A point on using full force for a strike: if you haven't done so in the fight yet, do throw one in at some point. As an avid (albeit amateur) modern fencer, I can safely tell you that the enemy doing something weird will throw you off your game. Equally, _you_ doing something weird may well spook _them_ and offer a good chance to slap the appropriate area of their body with your sword, without worrying as much about an expedient counterattack.
Totally want more videos concerning this sword
I started HEMA a few months ago and I was taught the opposite in terms of hands, the main hand (right for me) generates the power of the blow and the offhand is for control. Having the power come from the offhand gives a lot more rotation, which I have found to be uncomfortable on my right wrist. I also find that using your method, I grip my sword more lightly, which makes a disarm more likely (had that happen to me last HEMA session).
Not in general... ? In 99% situations proper way how to use the longsword is main hand for control and left on pommel to generate power and speed. You can't be succesful without it. It is superimportant to know this, if you want to use longsword properly and be able to understand majority of longsword techniques.
Not an expert by any means, but something I've observed in practice: You can actually get those extra clever inches of reach without letting the sword slide through your hand. Just keep your off-hand where it is, at the base, and twist through your thrust in the same way as you would with a cross in boxing, so that your off-shoulder ends up in front. It's a strong blow, with extra reach, but also easy to regain your bi-handed grip and at no point are you out of control of the weapon.
Letting the sword slide in your hand seems like mistaken technique to me, not for the reasons Lindy seems to suggest (although those, too), but because if you release your grip on the weapon, you are no longer putting any force behind the thrust. You're basically giving a ninny throw at a short range, and even that has no effectiveness after you squeeze your hand again and stop its progress.
I usually tell my students to hold the sword in the right hand as they would hold a kitchen- or cutlery knife, basically just pinching it between your thumb and index finger. That allows for a swift and agile movement that allows you to turn the sword more than 180 degrees at the flick of your fingers.
It's 1:54 am and I'm half naked drinking beer and watching someone waving a sword around on youtube.
What is wrong with me ?
Great video though.
About three weeks ago I was up at 3 in the morning watching a documentary about water recording emotions and data or some pseudo-science thing. Anyone who stays up long enough will eventually wind up on what is collectively called "the weird part of TH-cam". Happens all the time. :p
Very very true - same basic (!) techniques/thoughts when using a Japanese Katana. Shows how similar both swords actually are. Despite their different focus :)
Hand to god when he was yalking about the cross guard how it "goes out then in then out again" i was like"oh, like EXCALIBER" and felt a little lame.
Then........VINDICATION!!!!!
Love ya' Lindy. Yours truly,
-Just a Yank
Please, please make some videos about different sword techniques.One-handed swords, daggers, halberds, spears, anything. Demonstrate how some particular weapon should and shouldn't be used in actual battle.
It's good that your home looks like an arts storeroom.
the second I saw that habitat globe next to you while you were holding that longsword I was expecting you to hit it, and then you mentioned that you already had.
Are you expecting me to attack with Capo Ferro?
beat me to it lol
No, not really, as the poster quite clearly has studied the works of Gérard Thibault d’Anvers. :P
The sword Lindy had is a real sword. Balanced right and handcrafted, I have one too. They are great!
Hello mr Beige, would you perhaps do a video on the Ulfberht sword per chance? and perhaps compare it to similar weighted and sized swords?
That would also allow a chance to talk about plagiarism and false brand names in the era. Many of these blades turned out to be markedly inderior (and likely from a quite different region too). I also wonder how many knights at Agincourt died because they bought plate armor with a reputable brand name stamped on it that turned out to be forged (as in faked not as in made from metal). Fake rolex watches are just the newest iteration (and don't buy rifles or AKs from the Khyber area except for room decoration or as gifts for your mortal enemies).
Segalmed That's a good point, i do know many Ulfberht swords turned out to be terrible low grade copy's from the era that were unearthed.
You said you'd be getting in longsword bouts as practice. You should record those bouts and post them. I, for one, would love to see you the esteemed lindybeige in action. And I am sure I am not the only one in this,
Are you playing Rome Total War 2? Or have you played Rome Total War 1? And if so, what are your opinions on the game? Maybe do a vid about it? A gameplay/commentary?
If he did that, then that would be amazing.
I don't think he plays video games.
Vlad Tepes which would make that much more interesting for bot of us viewers, and him.
Vlad Tepes Well, he does LARP, so I don't think its entirely certain that he doesn't, probably just prefers to focus on real historical weaponry and war history instead.
If someone wants to play it, play it with mods. Good mods are Divide et Impera for R2 or Europa Barbarorum for R1.
Oh, nice to see you mention Hungary once :D
I like swords in general primarily that I'm comfortable with any form of bladed weapon, though I'm not particularly picky I do like swords with a little bit of curvature to the blade.
Lindy you should make some points about tridents. It's okay if you make them sound completely useless as long as you're honest and your info is correct
It's just physics you're using a force multiplying lever with your left hand /weak hand and a movement magnifying lever with your right arm /strong arm that's why it's so easy to make extremely fine tune adjustments with your strong arm because your changing the fulcrum to in the middle of the two forces whereas with your strong arm you're placing the force on one side of the fulcrum
oooo, is that a Regenyei? I've been wanting one for years!
Though just a brief response to the thrusting bit... if you want to thrust one-handed, and get that extra reach from the handle, just thrust with the left hand, that way you won't necessarily get disarmed if you're parried. Plus it's going to be more stable since you haven't really released your grip ;)
Your sword looks familiar. Is it one of Regenyei's, by any chance?
Also, if you want maximum reach with your stab while keeping a modicum of safety, I'd recommend using your off-hand instead of sliding your dominant hand along the hilt. Naturally, you'd have to have your left foot forward.
The extra reach technique you showed would not work in that particular way. Yes, it means the tip of the blade can move a few inches/centimetres further, but as soon as your arm is stretched out, it doesn't add any power to the weapon anymore. In fact, once your arm stops, all power is taken out of the sword as well; because you have no more actual push. Therefore, those extra few inches won't actually do anything if you let go of your weapon; it'll just pointlessly bounce off their armour because it has in fact become a projectile that isn't moving nearly fast enough to actually do anything.
Another person mentioned that using your left hand is a valid technique however, since that hand is already on the pommel and therefore the sword never becomes a projectile instead of an extention of your arm.
Historically it was done with left hand, because it is suprising enough, it is just non expected and very fast stab with few inchces of extra reach, you don't need to make your sword "projectile"...
0:42 Holy hell, Lindy! Don't scare me like that!
I very much enjoy your videos kind sir! Thank you for sharing!
I found this video really interesting as I am a fencer.I use an Épée and Foil.
Love the quote at the end...
Any chance you could talk a bit on purchasing weapons from reputable companies?
My knowledge is rather narrow. I'd need to handle far more of what's available than I have. So far, people are not sending me stuff for review.
Another main thing is that you can't get through armor with swinging motions as well as stabbing, so it's more about finding a weak point or piercing through the armor. Then swinging as hard as you can. xP
holy shit, at around 0:46 when he interrupts I almost shit my pants! ahahaha. It scared me.
LOVE the quote at the end! :)
Greetings from Hungary, the birthplace of your longsword :)
I was briefly in a quasi-recreation medieval combat group, and while the leader pretty much enforced that everybody "master" one-handed swords (read: padded rattan cudgels), I briefly go to try out two-handed great/longswords. My amateur initial movements were very rigid and awkward, but it was so much easier and efficient once I was told to use one hand to control the blade's direction and the other to apply the force. Also got pretty good at using that hand-sliding trick with the short spear - I even think it might have made me the best spearman in the group before the leader forced me to use short sword again.
I have a strong feeling you are referring to the group who have similar initials to Stick Combat Association that participates in the static and armored version of Zulu stick fighting, but with bigger shields and more duct tape.
demomanchaos Actually, it was an unofficial group that had aspirations of eventually getting accepted into the Society for Creative Anachronism. "Warriors of Olde" is what we called our "chapter house," and I was part of our Scot-themed "berserker" group known as "the Menzies." It was all very silly and fun... until training got so rough that actual injuries arose - concussions and the like. I left after the leader brought in an actual SCA trainer who hit so hard that a single blow to my shield sent pain through my whole arm (again, with a PADDED weapon).
kimarous I've been to an SCA training thing, and I was very unimpressed. Footwork was non-existent. The SCA fighters whack hard at head, then whack hard at leg, then repeat. They are all about unskilled clubbing (edge alignment matters not). I talked to one guy who was bragging about a few people in his batch getting busted ribs.
I am very glad I found my live-steel viking group.
demomanchaos What group did you train with? Becuase different chapters emphasize different things. My group, the Barony of the Ospery hit very weakly compare to say fighter in Texas, by or practices emphasize teaching more techinque that bashing people extremely hard, hitting at any opening avaliable while keeping defense than hitting really hard. I've actually watched guys teell thier oppenents than they are not dead because they hit them with the flat of thier sticks
demomanchaos
Also, your group is not live steel unless your group is crazy enough to use shrap steel weapons. The correct word would be rebated steel
Word of the day - bisect
Thank you Lindy
use the off hand to control the direction and the right to supply power.
I just figured it out. Lloyd is the Michael Rosen of sword practitioners
You've probably gotten this message (or a similar one) already, but I must say that at ca 2:40 , you are incorrect in stating that the main hand (right hand for most people) does the fine control, while the offhand (left hand for most people) gives the power. It's in fact the opposite; your right hand mainly gives power to a blow, while your left hand to a much greater degree controls exactly where the sword goes. (Of course, both hands do elements of both to a degree)
(In case qualifications are necessary, my sources is being a HEMA practitioner training with longswords)