Some of the craziness this year has come from good close finishes.....so its not all bad craziness, but yea there were some quite anonymous years in the 2010s when I wasn't paying attention, but I've been back as a fan the last 2-3 years and aside from the new car at a few tracks where they haven't figured out the racing yet, boredom is definitely not an issue anymore. Hope you enjoy the rest of it.....btw got a driver yet?
@@extragoogleaccount6061 the close CLEAN finishes have been lit as hell i personally find it more entertaining than wrecking folks. def rooting for RFK, brads turned the ship around crazy fast. would love to see truex get one last win, hoping reddick gets more wins, and lowkey been rooting for blaney since his road rage somehow makes him better at driving
This year has absolutely had so many insane finishes. The closest 1-2-3 finish ever, closest 1-2 finish ever, finishes in wet conditions at New Hampshire and Chicago, there was Bell blowing an engine and then Blaney running out of gas at Gateway, and I know there have been more insane races that come down to the final lap or two.
And with Dillon's encumbered victory, Bubba Wallace is now three points to the good, while Buescher and Chastain are tied for the final spot, and Gibbs is 18 points to the good. These next three races are going to be totally pivitol. Edit: RCR is planning to appeal, but I don’t think they're going to win it.
@@JackLikesTrackhouse Hey, numbnuts, he was already above the cut line. Same amount as now, but it helped the 2 cars behind him. Just go back to your trailer park and be yelling at your sisterwife to get you a sammich and a beer.
Ikr they basically forced the 3 to run at the back of the pack all season and then drive like an absolute moron when he finally saw the front of the field for the first time in years... crazy
If he did he should be suspended like boyer was when he spun at Richmond to knock jeff out of playoffs you can't have it both ways saying well done to ricky but then being pissed about dillion
Agreed with NASCAR. Even agree with the 50K fine on Joey. And I totally agree with removing civilians from the hot pits. One more thing- can we get the kids off the track, out of the cars and the rest? Again, can we get back to racing? Maybe we need to ask WWCTD?* What would Curtis Turner do?
That won't happen. The drivers coming through the ranks now have been racing for 10 to 15 years before they get into any upper level. Most 18 year olds have been racing for 13 years. 12 year olds are running late models in the lower ranks.
In the early days of Iowa Speedway, drivers would drive through the fan walk walk area to the winner's circle, separated from pedestrians by orange cones. Brad Keselowski ended that when he celebrated an Xfinity (then Nationwide) win with a hundred yard burnout through a crowd of paying customers. It was way out of line and incredibly dangerous.
This situation is different than any of the others you mentioned cause this wreck involved a car wrecking two leaders within seconds of each other so in my opinion this is what over aggressive driving is or reckless driving behavior is
It was his spotters stupidity on the radio, Richard’s stupid comments about the radio, and Austin’s “it is what it is” type attitude that got him this huge penalty. A wise man once said “a fish is always caught by his mouth”
Yup, the spotter clearly said "wreck him", Childress lied about it, then when confronted with proof, he makes it worse by saying it was a good thing to do because they won. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The spotter cost them the playoffs.
I don't think that anything Richard or Austin said had any influence on the penalty. The spotter obviously didn't help things, which is why they suspended him, but even without him saying to wreck him, I still think Dillon would have been penalized.
Good precedent being set. The playoff system has encouraged this type of racing for too long, drivers need to learn that they cannot wreck their way into a championship.
You say that, until your driver gets turned late going for the win and there’s no penalty, and then your driver gets payback late and gets stripped of the win.
What you have lost in all of this is the fact that Austin Dillon was this race before any of this controversy ever happened. Ricky 100% wrecked preece in order to alter the race ending. Nascars overtime time policy cost Austin the win. If you want to penalize Austin for what was rightly his, get rid of all of all it. No overtime’s, no racing to the checkered, and throw the book the first he real problem stenhouse. I’m at a point where I’m not sure if I can even get into this sport anymore
If this mayhem and infighting unsportsman like driving continues, I too will start to "miss" more NASCAR races. I mean how many more Thanksgiving family dinners would you continue to attend, if during each, the family was arguing, fighting and making what should be something enjoyable....ugly and full of unnecessary drama?
“If you want to penalize austin for whats rightly his” 😂😂 he literally turned a cup race into wreckfest to win, it wasn’t rightfully his at that point. We can talk about spinhouse altering the end of the race, but the rest of it still played out, dillon still purposefully wrecked 2 people to ALTER THE OUTCOME OF THE RACE. It ain’t over till the checkered flys.
The only reason they went this far was the spotter yelling wreck him wreck him wreck him, without that it would have just been a fine and wink and a nod. IMO.
Funny how a driver recently suspended, originally for life for "liking" perhaps an insensitive post. And this jerk spotter calls Dillon to wreck another driver and is only suspended for three races. Crappy lack of proper NASCAR justice!
It's very simple with the data from the cars if the car isn't going to make the turn without contacting the car in front it's a penalty. Now of course there's still going to be the vague instances but for the most part this should work. You can't just use the car in front of you as the brakes.
I feel like if the driver is actually trying to pass and wrecks him it’s fine if it’s a little bump and run it’s fine but if the driver goes into the corner and doesn’t try to pass just try’s to wreck then that should be a penalty
While yes, this was 100% the right call and I’m definitely surprised they did it; it seems every incident sets a new precedent in this sport. It always feels like they wait til tuesday to make these calls because they want to listen to the fans and the media and the drivers before they do anything, and I’m not sure that’s right. It’s far more court of public opinion than sticking to the rule book.
The timing of this penalty could not have been any worse for RCR... literally they posted an Austin Dillon hype video celebrating his win minutes before the penalty was announced
Honestly, as a racer and a race fan…we don’t care what other Motersports think. NASCAR has always been a full contact sport and drivers need to be able to police themselves And I totally agree that it was a dirty move, but I don’t want to see NASCAR controlling who makes the playoffs just because it was a dirty move
“The line” has to be defined as going into the corner with the intent of racing through the entire corner. Austin entered the corner in 4th gear, did not lift the throttle and with almost zero left steer. Only after trucking the 22 did he slow down enough to steer left 70° to hook the 11, all at the guidance of his spotter. SMT data and live spotter feed do not lie.
Come on really. The guy dove it down in there like 4 cars. Didn’t have any intention of just moving him and then wrecked a second car. This wasn’t like a bump and run. So dumb
😂😂. Denny Hamlin has been wrecking people his whole career Joey Logano does the same thing not as bad as Denny Hamlin wrecked Danica Patrick every race go back and look at old races
😂😂. Denny Hamlin has been wrecking people his whole career Joey Logano does the same thing not as bad as Denny Hamlin wrecked Danica Patrick every race go back and look at old races
If you take away the system NASCAR created by having endless overtime restarts to make “dramatic” finishes, Dillon still wins the race, none of this ever happens, and all is normal and fine. This is a DIRECT result of Nascar system of not finishing under yellow and the lack of drawing a line in the sand with contact and wrecking drivers the last several years. I feel for Dillon. I am not saying I liked his actions, but I feel like he is getting a punishment that doesn’t match the problem. NASCAR LOVES this attention, but keeps the 3 from the playoffs even tho he was the best car on the track and leading with 2 laps to go. Then say they have to “protect the integrity of the playoffs” then let drivers in the playoffs by winning a race on a rain shortened super speedway who is so clearly NOT a fast car that day. Hypocritical to the core.
NASCAR is the only sport where they make it up as they go.If he wouldn't of turned into Hamlin, Hamlin would have slid up and taken him out, just like he did Larson. Boring race got exciting! Warning, take the points, NASCAR should just pick who they want. Stupid playoff system to begin with
NASCAR has ended many races not under caution and no one decided to intentionally wreck two competitors. This is Austin Dillions fault and his fault alone. He’s responsible for how he acts
also What Denny Hamlin did in 2017 to Chase Elliot was no different did he get penalized for it no people said It was just short track racing. Now NASCAR will have to get involved in more racing contact That's been a part of NASCAR from the beginning now every driver that gets moved out of the way they're going to be asking for penalties And it's only fair.That's a door that should have never been opened.
Honestly, I think almost all of this overtime drama situations would be resolved if all OT restarts were single-file. In my mind, if you were the leader at the end of regulation, you should have a bigger advantage over 2nd place, and 2nd place over 3rd place, etc. The goal of overtime is to finish under green, not create more chaos and more yellows. Given that no one was hurt, I do like that Austin Dillon pulled off the move that he did. Not because I think it was good sport (it most certainly was not), but because it exposed the flawed system that setup a side-by-side shootout and incentivized this move. I also like how NASCAR chose to eventually respond to their flawed system being publically exposed. Now we at least have an example of what is over the line, where it was only speculation beforehand. NASCAR was born out of pushing the boundaries and working the gray areas, just ask junior johnson. The ingenuity can't and shouldn't be removed from the sport, but this particular exploit is no longer on the table. Also, if I understand the penalty correctly, AD still walks out of richmond with a net positive points day, moving up the standings from 32nd to 31st. Also, theoretically, an unencumbered Daytona win would put him right back in the playoffs carrying 10 playoff points, since they didn't dock any of those.
Can we stop talking about Stenhouse crash just because it triggered the restart?! Restart is part of racing, guys have gone through half dozens of restarts in a single race, some still won, some lost... Dillon had ONE restart to handle.... And even with that bad ass car, he failed !!
Restarts are part of being a NASCAR driver. A. Dillon has lost 87 spots on restarts this year. Until he can master the restarts, he’s going to struggle to be a winner.
To your point at 3:50 ...the problem is he still won? They either had to take it all, or leave it. He is still credited as the winner. If this had been after the playoffs started, and he wasn't in the playoffs, they would have probably taken the win away. There is still no clarity to the matter, in my opinion.
Fair enough for Dillon. Fair enough on Logano too. NASCAR needs to address all the non essential personnel on pit row immediately after the race while the cars are "cooling down"
This definitely not fair to Dillion.. Like him or not he won the race and by NASCAR own rules that makes him eligible for the playoffs... NASCAR is just protecting the playoff system and 23XI changes of getting bubba in , maybe Ross or one them guys not in 32nd position. A one week suspension is what was called for,, not this
Absolutely they do and do it publicly very soon cause everyone saying it’s a rule so they need to acknowledge that all them people broke the rules and be sure it doesn’t happen again at the next race after a win
@@alexlunsford6562 everyone keeps saying a rule was broken , but I didnt hear NASCAR bring up anything Dillion did being against any written rule. I originally thought the suspension was due to the contact with Hamlin but that doesn't really make sense, Joey was the leader at the time the entire situation started. There no rule against dive bombing, bumping a guy outta the way or even taking that corner at a higher rate of speed. There also no rule about having to give up because your 2 or 3 car lengths behind. I'm very interested in how the #3 will appeal this decision..
I think this was the correct call. I also think there needs to be a new rule where no non-crew members on pit road after a race while cars are still moving. Wait until all cars are stopped. Also drivers belts should remained bucked until on pit road.
NASCAR came as close as possible to being right. What do you do when a situation is unprecedented? You set new precedent. I am satisfied with the ruling.
They better start taking away eligibility every time someone wrecks the leader to win. No more gray area it’s black and white or it’s all bs to placate the criers that wreck others to win.
@darrinlambert88 this to Hamlin at Paccono. Larson. Busch through the Years. And let's not even talk about lagano through the Years. Good try tho hater
I think the difference is intent of the driver. Ross's intent was trying to get as many spots as many as possible and did so running a line that no one runs at Martinsville. Dillion had every intent on wrecking Joey and Dillion.
Where's the data on Wrecky Spinhouse. This needs to be looked into as well. I mean while we get the rule book out. I think there's a section in there about bringing out a yellow on purpose .
@@joshuawhitley8575 I wouldn’t even say light, 50k is nothing to multimillionaires like Joey. Minimum 500k no matter what type of millionaire you are you’ll feel that fine
Logano’s message was crystal clear, his penalty was very insufficient. Another gray area and line crossed, aiming a race car at another driver’s family, friends and crew. A suspension was cleared warranted. It’s easy to say they shouldn’t have been there, but this is happening at every race track., it’s just more visible at the short tracks And who deserves the blame and should be held accountable. Oh yeah, they don’t penalize themselves.
@@terry4343I think he just meant to send a message I don’t think he was directly aiming for Them. I don’t think he’d be that Stupid (Coming From a Logano Fan)
@@AshtonG2022 might have been but his car was damaged and he was 6 feet away from them. He “sends a message”, the car breaks loose and someone gets seriously injured, that’s likely leading to a criminal trial.
For the right rear hook, yes for the penalty. But also figure out a way to deter drivers like Stenhouse from causing preventable crashes that close to the end of the race.
He's still playoff eligible. They just rescinded the playoff guaranteed spot. If he wins again over the next 3 weeks (lol, but hey it could happen), he's still in the playoffs. He's not wholly ineligible.
They made the right call. He crossed the line. Taking out one car intentionally fine but two. If NASCAR did nothing it wouldn’t be long and someone from 4th will come dive bombing into turn 3 to see how many he can take out to hopefully win. Turns NASCAR into a joke. Good job to NASCAR, they got it right.
Just remember boys, you can drive through someone without care to bring out the caution to send it to overtime, but if you dare intentionally wreck someone in overtime, then they’ll penalize you… This is why overtime is stupid
@@lukewhitaker6351 it’s why I’ll continue to say “the only thing consistent about NASCAR is inconsistency”. You can do something for 25th that you can’t do for 1st, which is stupid. In fact, I’d argue, wrecking someone for 25th is WAY worse than wrecking someone for 1st.
@@nathan1sixteenyou can not definitively tell that wrecky intentionally wrecked him. You can however tell smooth brain intentionally wrecked 2 guys. Good call by nascar. Get all these idiots off pit road.
Nascar cannot make up their mind. Either the win counts, or it does not. They cite the actions detrimental rule, which means there is something they don't like but haven't got a rule. Either the win counts, and he is in the playoffs Or the win is disqualified and he is out of the playoffs. The Rules are what they say On that particular day.
The problem is like doc said, there’s no explicit rule against it. So ad keeps the win but loses the benefits of that win. Starting next year, make explicit rules against intent wrecking.
The real issue nascar had was the spotter yelling wreck him on the radio, I’m more guessing he got the win embumbered because he RR’ED Hamlin then because he sent lagano
@@sarongas1999 Hi 👋. I am not trying to discuss the fine points of who did what, if it was right or if it was wrong. My point is that NASCAR wants it both ways. Either Dillon did something so heinous that it needs punishment, or it does not. NASCAR cannot simultaneously say that "he wins" but "it doesn't count" Its like saying a woman is almost pregnant. Either she is, or she isn't. NASCAR fails to choose one or the other. I will be happy with either choice, that's racing. But to say he wins, but he didn't? We deserve better
IMH Austin Dillon should have the win taken away and fined, I don’t know how much, but fined. Also NASCAR needs to keep all people off pit road UNTIL the race cars are stopped so not to put anyone in danger. Thank you.
That’s it!! NASCAR is toast. Now you will see even less people in the already sparsely occupied seats. It ok to make a rule even though it’s still very very vague but it should be established before such a harsh penalty is handed down. Extremely unfair to the Childress camp.
I can remember when Nascar short track racing was fun, cars could pass and there was bumping and banging about every lap. The Next Gen car has destroyed that type of racing.
Yes it has, and that's the number 1 reason I've lost interest in NASCAR is the poor racing this car creates on short tracks and road courses, I don't care about 1.5 cookie cutters being better they made the tracks I actually enjoy worse!
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there are wrecks near the end of races that take out half the field. Denny understands why he did it because he would do it too. his past speaks volumes because few have done this more than denny. why do you think he's always in the playoffs but never wins. Denny and Joey are probably the dirtiest drivers in the game. I dislike dillion more than I dislike denny and joey, dillion did exactly what he should have given the Nascar precedent at the time
It’s not gray area at all or vague. You’re not allowed to intentionally wreck someone and especially not admit to intentionally doing it. Dillon and co did all the above.
What a load of crap on NASCAR's "clean white shirt"! If I were a sponsor associated with NASCAR I would write them a nasty letter telling them to get their house in order or I will be "changing the address" of my sponsorship dollars!!!
Good call Nascar. Keep the win, keep the trophy and the purse for the win. BUT YOU WON'T BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOUR P.O.S MOVE TO STEAL A WIN AFTER YOUR BAD RESTART. THAT WAS ALL ON YOU AUSTIN!
I think a good solution to the win and your in problem would be: award more regular season and playoff points for an individual win. So you get more of a boost in the regular season points, and if you do end up pointing your way into the playoffs, you get an extra boost for another way to have an incentive to win. Also within the playoffs, you can keep the win and advance if it’s needed for more (ridiculous) entertainment value. But in terms of setting the post season eligible field, this should be an outline NASCAR should consider.
All these borderlines had incidents of drivers that would’ve made the corner if the car ahead wasn’t there (except Chastain.) Dillon used Joey as the brakes. We know the data, we know the physics: there’s the line
So nascar says boys have at it, incentivized Hail Mary moves with the win and you’re in format, then it penalizes you for something that they encouraged. I am not Austin Dylan fan. I think he is where he is from mostly nepotism. He did very well in other series but he is a below average driver. I don’t care what other driver did what Austin did I would do what they did to Hamlin’s when he jumped earlier this year, you got away with it but from here forward this is what we will do.
Hell yeah! I’m fine with them letting him keep the win, but there’s no way a 32nd place car should be in the playoffs, especially if they wreck the leaders to get there.
If murder was legal, we'd still hate the murderers. This isn't a 'hate the game, not the player' situation. Sure, things need to change, but Austin Dillon is NOT off the hook! Martin Truex wouldn't be pulling a move like that in the same situation.
Since Stenhouse caused this, his parents should be fined for supporting his racing career when he was younger. Also, future Stenhouse’s should be suspended indefinitely to prevent them from getting involved in NASCAR.
Busch CLEARLY wrecked Ricky this year and turned him into a wall, nothing. So that, it has to come from 4 lengths back? 3? 3.45683? 2 car lengths?? What’s the rule? What’s the line? Who says one purposeful wreck is any better or worse than another. BS
I think this is one of the few moments Nascar should intervene. In my opinion, only do right hooks and when it is obvious someone smoked another driver (Kenseth and Joe log 2015 for example). In this case, it is a little bit of both but is definitely unfair, dangerous, and is not “good racing”.
I really don't agree with what happen sunday at richmond! I not a Austin Dillon fan.No rule nascar ever has is either as simple as black or white, right or wrong. Nascar don't want the rules to be simple so they can make them up as they go!
This is a very dangerous spot to pressure NASCAR to step in for stuff like this. You're telling them to step in over a system and environment they created for entertainment. Now everything will be over analyzed that doesn't need to be. And there will be a lot of bullshit calls coming. There should also be a rule that if NASCAR is going to penalize you they shouldn't use it for promotional material cuz thts just crap.
The crappy attitude of drivers is a symptom of how bad many sectors of our society are. A vendor at a Grateful Dead theme event heard a young person say: "I have to find something to steal (from a vendor) so I can get something to eat". Dillon: "I hated to do it, but I had to". Irresponsible B.S. Hate Dillon!!!
@@williambranham6249 per the appeals process the panel can modify the penalties if they so choose, including making them harsher if they deem it plausible
@@williambranham6249 Not for just the appeal but the independent appeal committee (non NASCAR group) could decide that the original penalty wasn't harsh enough and levy more in points and dollars. Doubt it will happen but is possible
I am totally sickened by his crappy comment: "I hated to do it, but I had to". Reminds me of the equally crappy action that I see continually on roads here in Las Vegas as drivers run red lights EVERY time I am out driving doing errands!!!
I'm not a dillion fan nor care of the outcome here.. but nascar should have handled this off season like Eric stated in an earlier video. Can't revoke playoff eligibility mid season over something that has no precedence that had been set. Chastain did not have his playoff spot revoked when he pushed that boundary and they set the new rule n the off season. I would say chastains move undermined the integrity way more than someone being wrecked to win a race (that has been done for years and years) Money fine and move on and change the rule next year
I’m in the minority but I’m not a fan of this decision. Just my opinion. NASCAR did this to themselves and none of this would have happened if we didn’t have a playoff format and if Ricky and Preece didn’t get together
I would be fine with top 16 in points make the playoffs, just get rid of the “win in your in”. Desperate moves probably would die down. NASCAR’s system has changed the mindset of drivers for sure over the years.
@@toddmanger7194 I definitely agree with you on that!! But since we don’t have that at the moment NASCAR might as well keep doing what they’re doing and let drivers be aggressive. I don’t care for it too much but I would love to see a top 16 set by points!! That would be the most fair
@@uselesspaprclip5057 I think with whatever system we have, drivers will always be aggressive. I don’t know what’s in the air, but lately drivers have been grab assin’ a lot here in the ends of the races for silly positions. Like Denny said: “I guess 24th means more than 25th to them” lol
NASCAR needs to bring back the cutoff line at least with this win and in format. Personally, I think you should be at least Top 24 in points with a Win under this format…but, I wish it would go back to the old points system and just take the Too 16 in points. MTJ was 4th a few years ago in season points and got bumped out by a last minute 1-Win Austin Dillon who was bottom barrel in points at the time.
I agree with the penalty and really I was surprised Nascar didn't just slap him on the wrist and let him keep the playoff spot they finally got one right.
Win and your in ?? What happened to that phrase. This is BS Nascar started this by throwing the caution with 3 laps to go. # 3 was the fastest car and how about jumping the start , Lagano ?
first year tuning into a NASCAR season. this whole year has been nuts imo
This definitely seems a bit... much, this season lol but even any other year there's rarely ever a break in the drama
Some of the craziness this year has come from good close finishes.....so its not all bad craziness, but yea there were some quite anonymous years in the 2010s when I wasn't paying attention, but I've been back as a fan the last 2-3 years and aside from the new car at a few tracks where they haven't figured out the racing yet, boredom is definitely not an issue anymore. Hope you enjoy the rest of it.....btw got a driver yet?
@@extragoogleaccount6061 the close CLEAN finishes have been lit as hell i personally find it more entertaining than wrecking folks. def rooting for RFK, brads turned the ship around crazy fast. would love to see truex get one last win, hoping reddick gets more wins, and lowkey been rooting for blaney since his road rage somehow makes him better at driving
rocking with the trackhouse folks too viva saurez!
This year has absolutely had so many insane finishes. The closest 1-2-3 finish ever, closest 1-2 finish ever, finishes in wet conditions at New Hampshire and Chicago, there was Bell blowing an engine and then Blaney running out of gas at Gateway, and I know there have been more insane races that come down to the final lap or two.
Yea but Nascar will use footage of this. To promote the next Richmond race.
@@patriotchuck112 they already are. "Look at this exciting finish"
Just like Chastain's hail mellon
So?
@@WhatAboutTheBeeit's not like the steeplechase is it?
O death where is your sting O grave where is your victory?😢
Vague Vega😂🎉
Dillon and Logano, ironically, are now the only drivers in NASCAR history where their win was *encucumbered.* 🥒
Both at Richmond
You're forgetting about Kevin harvick. His Las Vegas win was encumbered.
@@JGR4LIFE20 well, they call it the "Action Track" for a reason lol
@@fishingwithkar4871
And his Texas win too.
@@DannyRicBobby I had said Texas initially but I changed it to Las Vegas I forgot he had two
And with Dillon's encumbered victory, Bubba Wallace is now three points to the good, while Buescher and Chastain are tied for the final spot, and Gibbs is 18 points to the good.
These next three races are going to be totally pivitol.
Edit: RCR is planning to appeal, but I don’t think they're going to win it.
Yeah because he’s so upset but chances they won’t get appealed
“DEY PENLIZED AUSTIN TO MAKE SURE BUBBLES MAKES DA PLAYOFFS”
There is a speedway.
@@JackLikesTrackhouse
Hey, numbnuts, he was already above the cut line. Same amount as now, but it helped the 2 cars behind him.
Just go back to your trailer park and be yelling at your sisterwife to get you a sammich and a beer.
They got lucky on setup/speed once so far this season. Good luck lol.
Michael Mrucz explained it best, they put drivers into stupid situations because of the playoff format they are using
they're making rules up as they go.
Yeah
Ikr they basically forced the 3 to run at the back of the pack all season and then drive like an absolute moron when he finally saw the front of the field for the first time in years... crazy
@@Cconkyythey forced him to run at the back of the pack?😂 really??
@@mateojohns05 🤣
I’m convinced Ricky caused that caution on purpose . Well played sir
Again!!!
Suspension for altering the playoffs?
I agree, but I think it was because he wanted to crash Dillon.
If he did he should be suspended like boyer was when he spun at Richmond to knock jeff out of playoffs you can't have it both ways saying well done to ricky but then being pissed about dillion
Man is really going scorched earth on RCR huh 😂
Agreed with NASCAR. Even agree with the 50K fine on Joey. And I totally agree with removing civilians from the hot pits. One more thing- can we get the kids off the track, out of the cars and the rest? Again, can we get back to racing? Maybe we need to ask WWCTD?* What would Curtis Turner do?
That won't happen. The drivers coming through the ranks now have been racing for 10 to 15 years before they get into any upper level. Most 18 year olds have been racing for 13 years. 12 year olds are running late models in the lower ranks.
WWWCSD
What would Winston Cup Series do?
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Joey needs a WAY bigger penalty. Bubba got $75k for less than Logano did
In the early days of Iowa Speedway, drivers would drive through the fan walk walk area to the winner's circle, separated from pedestrians by orange cones. Brad Keselowski ended that when he celebrated an Xfinity (then Nationwide) win with a hundred yard burnout through a crowd of paying customers. It was way out of line and incredibly dangerous.
Curtis would have wrecked the whole field by lap 5.
*close enough, welcome back encumbered wins.*
This situation is different than any of the others you mentioned cause this wreck involved a car wrecking two leaders within seconds of each other so in my opinion this is what over aggressive driving is or reckless driving behavior is
Reminder that none of this happens if Wrecky Spinhouse didn’t run out of talent
Busch accurately named him. Wrecky Spinhouse is a menace behind the wheel of a cup car.
He didn’t run out of talent he never had any
Or Ricky did it on purpose!
Ricky could have been the mastermind of the whole thing, he knew Dillon was coming up behind him.
he really is a waste of a seat in the cup series.
Never seen folks so happy to see a penalty..kind of sad.
Eric’s breathing a sigh of relief that his preseason predictions are (somewhat) spared further carnage after this 😂
I have been waiting for Eric to upload since the penalty was announced
Spot on analysis and perspective!
Best Call made by NASCAR , no matter how long it took them to come to be right and far !!!
I got a funny feeling that Joey or Denny won’t win the championship brought to you by the 3 team
I bet Pop Pop is real proud of his buddy now.
I'm sure he is. Dillon still got the W
🍿🍿🥔🥓
That’s Hilarious!
@@TheHighRoad1748 I don't root for Dillon to win so unbiased opinion
@@DonChron419 But useless except that asterisk in the record book and his 31st points position
It was his spotters stupidity on the radio, Richard’s stupid comments about the radio, and Austin’s “it is what it is” type attitude that got him this huge penalty. A wise man once said “a fish is always caught by his mouth”
Yup, the spotter clearly said "wreck him", Childress lied about it, then when confronted with proof, he makes it worse by saying it was a good thing to do because they won. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The spotter cost them the playoffs.
I don't think that anything Richard or Austin said had any influence on the penalty. The spotter obviously didn't help things, which is why they suspended him, but even without him saying to wreck him, I still think Dillon would have been penalized.
God was with him for sure during the race but God is not on NASCAR rules and penalty committee.,
Good precedent being set. The playoff system has encouraged this type of racing for too long, drivers need to learn that they cannot wreck their way into a championship.
Yup, message needed to be sent, couldn’t wait for off-season to do it either.
Drawing the line between “win and you’re in” and “win at all costs”
You say that, until your driver gets turned late going for the win and there’s no penalty, and then your driver gets payback late and gets stripped of the win.
Perhaps NASCAR will also re-examine its playoff eligibility format.
Right!!!!!
Good news. Call the drivers on their crappy purposeful bad moves, that means HMS as well.
What you have lost in all of this is the fact that Austin Dillon was this race before any of this controversy ever happened. Ricky 100% wrecked preece in order to alter the race ending. Nascars overtime time policy cost Austin the win. If you want to penalize Austin for what was rightly his, get rid of all of all it. No overtime’s, no racing to the checkered, and throw the book the first he real problem stenhouse. I’m at a point where I’m not sure if I can even get into this sport anymore
If this mayhem and infighting unsportsman like driving continues, I too will start to "miss" more NASCAR races. I mean how many more Thanksgiving family dinners would you continue to attend, if during each, the family was arguing, fighting and making what should be something enjoyable....ugly and full of unnecessary drama?
So it was ok for no talent idiot to take out 2 drivers in 1 corner?
“If you want to penalize austin for whats rightly his” 😂😂 he literally turned a cup race into wreckfest to win, it wasn’t rightfully his at that point. We can talk about spinhouse altering the end of the race, but the rest of it still played out, dillon still purposefully wrecked 2 people to ALTER THE OUTCOME OF THE RACE. It ain’t over till the checkered flys.
@@YaM0MsAh03 indeed if you lose a restart......it's not "rightfully yours:
Take care
The only reason they went this far was the spotter yelling wreck him wreck him wreck him, without that it would have just been a fine and wink and a nod. IMO.
Funny how a driver recently suspended, originally for life for "liking" perhaps an insensitive post. And this jerk spotter calls Dillon to wreck another driver and is only suspended for three races. Crappy lack of proper NASCAR justice!
Ricky said he was getting RCR one way or another 😂
Ma😮y be R.c.r.s argument for altering the pla😢yoffs?
It's very simple with the data from the cars if the car isn't going to make the turn without contacting the car in front it's a penalty. Now of course there's still going to be the vague instances but for the most part this should work. You can't just use the car in front of you as the brakes.
“The Timing of this could not be any worse”
I feel like if the driver is actually trying to pass and wrecks him it’s fine if it’s a little bump and run it’s fine but if the driver goes into the corner and doesn’t try to pass just try’s to wreck then that should be a penalty
While yes, this was 100% the right call and I’m definitely surprised they did it; it seems every incident sets a new precedent in this sport. It always feels like they wait til tuesday to make these calls because they want to listen to the fans and the media and the drivers before they do anything, and I’m not sure that’s right. It’s far more court of public opinion than sticking to the rule book.
Kenny Walrus said it best!
The drivers know where the line is. Just because we don't know doesn't mean it's not there.
Why do I feel like everyone is praying for NASCAR's downfall? This is the start of consistency for the sport and the right call.
The timing of this penalty could not have been any worse for RCR... literally they posted an Austin Dillon hype video celebrating his win minutes before the penalty was announced
Lmao they got got. Sucks to suck.
I get the joke
Honestly, as a racer and a race fan…we don’t care what other Motersports think. NASCAR has always been a full contact sport and drivers need to be able to police themselves And I totally agree that it was a dirty move, but I don’t want to see NASCAR controlling who makes the playoffs just because it was a dirty move
It is only a precedent if Nascar uses it again.
“The line” has to be defined as going into the corner with the intent of racing through the entire corner. Austin entered the corner in 4th gear, did not lift the throttle and with almost zero left steer. Only after trucking the 22 did he slow down enough to steer left 70° to hook the 11, all at the guidance of his spotter. SMT data and live spotter feed do not lie.
This is a good way to put it. Also, drivers know what "the line" is. They all do. NASCAR is the problem for not wanting to officiate it.
Denny and Joey better be careful wrecking people for now on😂
Yeah, they should.
Come on really. The guy dove it down in there like 4 cars. Didn’t have any intention of just moving him and then wrecked a second car. This wasn’t like a bump and run. So dumb
😂😂. Denny Hamlin has been wrecking people his whole career Joey Logano does the same thing not as bad as Denny Hamlin wrecked Danica Patrick every race go back and look at old races
😂😂. Denny Hamlin has been wrecking people his whole career Joey Logano does the same thing not as bad as Denny Hamlin wrecked Danica Patrick every race go back and look at old races
Please tell me the last time either one of them purposely wrecked two drivers to win.
If you take away the system NASCAR created by having endless overtime restarts to make “dramatic” finishes, Dillon still wins the race, none of this ever happens, and all is normal and fine. This is a DIRECT result of Nascar system of not finishing under yellow and the lack of drawing a line in the sand with contact and wrecking drivers the last several years. I feel for Dillon. I am not saying I liked his actions, but I feel like he is getting a punishment that doesn’t match the problem. NASCAR LOVES this attention, but keeps the 3 from the playoffs even tho he was the best car on the track and leading with 2 laps to go. Then say they have to “protect the integrity of the playoffs” then let drivers in the playoffs by winning a race on a rain shortened super speedway who is so clearly NOT a fast car that day. Hypocritical to the core.
100% agree
NASCAR is the only sport where they make it up as they go.If he wouldn't of turned into Hamlin, Hamlin would have slid up and taken him out, just like he did Larson. Boring race got exciting! Warning, take the points, NASCAR should just pick who they want. Stupid playoff system to begin with
Actually it's direct by product of desperation brought on by the win your in, hail Mary situations of the convoluted and downright SPED playoffs
@@leschristensen3198💯
NASCAR has ended many races not under caution and no one decided to intentionally wreck two competitors. This is Austin Dillions fault and his fault alone. He’s responsible for how he acts
Dillon cooked his goose when he spun Hamlin.
also What Denny Hamlin did in 2017 to Chase Elliot was no different did he get penalized for it no people said It was just short track racing. Now NASCAR will have to get involved in more racing contact That's been a part of NASCAR from the beginning now every driver that gets moved out of the way they're going to be asking for penalties And it's only fair.That's a door that should have never been opened.
Honestly, I think almost all of this overtime drama situations would be resolved if all OT restarts were single-file. In my mind, if you were the leader at the end of regulation, you should have a bigger advantage over 2nd place, and 2nd place over 3rd place, etc. The goal of overtime is to finish under green, not create more chaos and more yellows.
Given that no one was hurt, I do like that Austin Dillon pulled off the move that he did. Not because I think it was good sport (it most certainly was not), but because it exposed the flawed system that setup a side-by-side shootout and incentivized this move. I also like how NASCAR chose to eventually respond to their flawed system being publically exposed. Now we at least have an example of what is over the line, where it was only speculation beforehand.
NASCAR was born out of pushing the boundaries and working the gray areas, just ask junior johnson. The ingenuity can't and shouldn't be removed from the sport, but this particular exploit is no longer on the table.
Also, if I understand the penalty correctly, AD still walks out of richmond with a net positive points day, moving up the standings from 32nd to 31st. Also, theoretically, an unencumbered Daytona win would put him right back in the playoffs carrying 10 playoff points, since they didn't dock any of those.
A spotter should never say "WRECK HIM!"
The Spotter doesn’t drive the car.
@@CWBKC Right. And what I said stands
Can we stop talking about Stenhouse crash just because it triggered the restart?!
Restart is part of racing, guys have gone through half dozens of restarts in a single race, some still won, some lost...
Dillon had ONE restart to handle.... And even with that bad ass car, he failed !!
Restarts are part of being a NASCAR driver. A. Dillon has lost 87 spots on restarts this year. Until he can master the restarts, he’s going to struggle to be a winner.
To your point at 3:50 ...the problem is he still won? They either had to take it all, or leave it. He is still credited as the winner. If this had been after the playoffs started, and he wasn't in the playoffs, they would have probably taken the win away. There is still no clarity to the matter, in my opinion.
Fair enough for Dillon. Fair enough on Logano too. NASCAR needs to address all the non essential personnel on pit row immediately after the race while the cars are "cooling down"
Yes, and the SVP of NASCAR admitted this too.
Agreed I think this was the best decision on the whole deal
This definitely not fair to Dillion..
Like him or not he won the race and by NASCAR own rules that makes him eligible for the playoffs...
NASCAR is just protecting the playoff system and 23XI changes of getting bubba in , maybe Ross or one them guys not in 32nd position.
A one week suspension is what was called for,, not this
Absolutely they do and do it publicly very soon cause everyone saying it’s a rule so they need to acknowledge that all them people broke the rules and be sure it doesn’t happen again at the next race after a win
@@alexlunsford6562 everyone keeps saying a rule was broken , but I didnt hear NASCAR bring up anything Dillion did being against any written rule.
I originally thought the suspension was due to the contact with Hamlin but that doesn't really make sense, Joey was the leader at the time the entire situation started.
There no rule against dive bombing, bumping a guy outta the way or even taking that corner at a higher rate of speed.
There also no rule about having to give up because your 2 or 3 car lengths behind.
I'm very interested in how the #3 will appeal this decision..
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I think this was the correct call.
I also think there needs to be a new rule where no non-crew members on pit road after a race while cars are still moving. Wait until all cars are stopped. Also drivers belts should remained bucked until on pit road.
Apparently there was not supposed to be anyone (except for officials) on a "hot" pit road. I do agree with both your thoughts though.
Already is .
@@timmannchicken Needs to be enforced better.
NASCAR came as close as possible to being right. What do you do when a situation is unprecedented? You set new precedent. I am satisfied with the ruling.
They better start taking away eligibility every time someone wrecks the leader to win. No more gray area it’s black and white or it’s all bs to placate the criers that wreck others to win.
Like Pluto
I'd say take even the win. DSQ for that, or in the very least added time
It was very clear both wrecks were egregiously intentional and a right rear hook should have been suspension. Good call nascar. Good bye dillion
@darrinlambert88 this to Hamlin at Paccono. Larson. Busch through the Years. And let's not even talk about lagano through the Years. Good try tho hater
great call nascar! they got this one right
But stenthouse got what 75k for punching Busch??? How is this not worse??
Because he actually made contact with someone (his fist hitting Busch) lmfao Logano did not
Because stenhouse Assaulted someone. Which is a serious actual crime in itself.
No one actually got hurt physically, that's how it's different
@@samharris3508so is attempted vehicular homicide. Logano should've been punished way more than a $50k fine
@@isaiahmarker407 attempted vehicular homicide is quite a stretch.
Nascar set it up with the last lap caution. Then Nascar decided who wasn't going to be in the playoffs.
They should of treated this like the hail melon. Been like, well that's a first. Don't do it again.
I think the difference is intent of the driver. Ross's intent was trying to get as many spots as many as possible and did so running a line that no one runs at Martinsville. Dillion had every intent on wrecking Joey and Dillion.
Where's the data on Wrecky Spinhouse. This needs to be looked into as well. I mean while we get the rule book out. I think there's a section in there about bringing out a yellow on purpose .
Logano got off incredibly light.
I agree but nascar shouldn’t let anyone on pit road like that
@@joshuawhitley8575 I wouldn’t even say light, 50k is nothing to multimillionaires like Joey. Minimum 500k no matter what type of millionaire you are you’ll feel that fine
Logano’s message was crystal clear, his penalty was very insufficient. Another gray area and line crossed, aiming a race car at another driver’s family, friends and crew. A suspension was cleared warranted. It’s easy to say they shouldn’t have been there, but this is happening at every race track., it’s just more visible at the short tracks And who deserves the blame and should be held accountable. Oh yeah, they don’t penalize themselves.
@@terry4343I think he just meant to send a message I don’t think he was directly aiming for Them. I don’t think he’d be that Stupid (Coming From a Logano Fan)
@@AshtonG2022 might have been but his car was damaged and he was 6 feet away from them. He “sends a message”, the car breaks loose and someone gets seriously injured, that’s likely leading to a criminal trial.
For the right rear hook, yes for the penalty. But also figure out a way to deter drivers like Stenhouse from causing preventable crashes that close to the end of the race.
Richard Childress is going to be pissed.
Yeah his hair will turn gray cause of all of the chaos 🤣
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Sportsskeeda calls Eric “renowned motorsports commentator”; I heartily agree.
NASCAR shouldn’t revoke Austen Dillon’s playoff eligibility because they didn’t revoke Ross Chastain for the hail melon
Exactly nascar is a joke
He's still playoff eligible. They just rescinded the playoff guaranteed spot. If he wins again over the next 3 weeks (lol, but hey it could happen), he's still in the playoffs. He's not wholly ineligible.
Chastain wrecked nobody in the process, and was a few points out. He was competitive and not sitting 32nd in points
They made the right call. He crossed the line. Taking out one car intentionally fine but two. If NASCAR did nothing it wouldn’t be long and someone from 4th will come dive bombing into turn 3 to see how many he can take out to hopefully win. Turns NASCAR into a joke. Good job to NASCAR, they got it right.
Just remember boys, you can drive through someone without care to bring out the caution to send it to overtime, but if you dare intentionally wreck someone in overtime, then they’ll penalize you…
This is why overtime is stupid
Suspension for altering the Play offs?😮
Totally agree Stenhouse did the same thing 4 laps earlier
@@lukewhitaker6351 it’s why I’ll continue to say “the only thing consistent about NASCAR is inconsistency”. You can do something for 25th that you can’t do for 1st, which is stupid. In fact, I’d argue, wrecking someone for 25th is WAY worse than wrecking someone for 1st.
@@nathan1sixteenyou can not definitively tell that wrecky intentionally wrecked him. You can however tell smooth brain intentionally wrecked 2 guys. Good call by nascar. Get all these idiots off pit road.
The playoff system creates bold moves. Bold moves are not blatantly wrecking two cars. Just because you choked a restart away.
Nascar cannot make up their mind. Either the win counts, or it does not.
They cite the actions detrimental rule, which means there is something they don't like but haven't got a rule.
Either the win counts, and he is in the playoffs
Or the win is disqualified and he is out of the playoffs.
The Rules are what they say
On that particular day.
You are spot on the target.
The problem is like doc said, there’s no explicit rule against it. So ad keeps the win but loses the benefits of that win. Starting next year, make explicit rules against intent wrecking.
The real issue nascar had was the spotter yelling wreck him on the radio, I’m more guessing he got the win embumbered because he RR’ED Hamlin then because he sent lagano
They’re not going to take the win away simply because of gambling would be my guess.
@@sarongas1999 Hi 👋. I am not trying to discuss the fine points of who did what, if it was right or if it was wrong.
My point is that NASCAR wants it both ways. Either Dillon did something so heinous that it needs punishment, or it does not. NASCAR cannot simultaneously say that "he wins" but "it doesn't count"
Its like saying a woman is almost pregnant. Either she is, or she isn't.
NASCAR fails to choose one or the other. I will be happy with either choice, that's racing. But to say he wins, but he didn't?
We deserve better
IMH Austin Dillon should have the win taken away and fined, I don’t know how much, but fined. Also NASCAR needs to keep all people off pit road UNTIL the race cars are stopped so not to put anyone in danger. Thank you.
I agree with what they said and done to the team and spotter well done to to nascar for the way they dropped the hammer.
That’s it!! NASCAR is toast. Now you will see even less people in the already sparsely occupied seats. It ok to make a rule even though it’s still very very vague but it should be established before such a harsh penalty is handed down. Extremely unfair to the Childress camp.
I can remember when Nascar short track racing was fun, cars could pass and there was bumping and banging about every lap. The Next Gen car has destroyed that type of racing.
Yes it has, and that's the number 1 reason I've lost interest in NASCAR is the poor racing this car creates on short tracks and road courses, I don't care about 1.5 cookie cutters being better they made the tracks I actually enjoy worse!
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I think nascar made the right call with both penalties
"We'll know it when we see it" lol they definitely saw it Sunday
One thing I think we need to consider with the penalty It wasn't just Austin Dillon wrecking lagano he also wrecked Denny Hamlin as well 8:29
there are wrecks near the end of races that take out half the field. Denny understands why he did it because he would do it too. his past speaks volumes because few have done this more than denny. why do you think he's always in the playoffs but never wins. Denny and Joey are probably the dirtiest drivers in the game. I dislike dillion more than I dislike denny and joey, dillion did exactly what he should have given the Nascar precedent at the time
@@ChristopherRMcClain oh I know but I'm just referring to why the penalty overall we're also not talking about Daytona or Talladega
I think that Ricky Stenhouse should be punished for intentionally manipulating the finish of the race. He caused this whole issue.
It’s not gray area at all or vague. You’re not allowed to intentionally wreck someone and especially not admit to intentionally doing it. Dillon and co did all the above.
Yet Logano and Hamlin do it when they think its necessary!
What a load of crap on NASCAR's "clean white shirt"! If I were a sponsor associated with NASCAR I would write them a nasty letter telling them to get their house in order or I will be "changing the address" of my sponsorship dollars!!!
Is it just me or does Stenhouse and nowadays Preece seem to be always be the culprit in the late race winner altering caution?
Good call Nascar. Keep the win, keep the trophy and the purse for the win. BUT YOU WON'T BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOUR P.O.S MOVE TO STEAL A WIN AFTER YOUR BAD RESTART. THAT WAS ALL ON YOU AUSTIN!
I think a good solution to the win and your in problem would be: award more regular season and playoff points for an individual win. So you get more of a boost in the regular season points, and if you do end up pointing your way into the playoffs, you get an extra boost for another way to have an incentive to win. Also within the playoffs, you can keep the win and advance if it’s needed for more (ridiculous) entertainment value. But in terms of setting the post season eligible field, this should be an outline NASCAR should consider.
Everyone and Eric Estepp who's your pick to win at Michigan this weekend?
Blaney
@@Smorefredgood pick
I think Blaney Too
All these borderlines had incidents of drivers that would’ve made the corner if the car ahead wasn’t there (except Chastain.) Dillon used Joey as the brakes. We know the data, we know the physics: there’s the line
So nascar says boys have at it, incentivized Hail Mary moves with the win and you’re in format, then it penalizes you for something that they encouraged. I am not Austin Dylan fan. I think he is where he is from mostly nepotism. He did very well in other series but he is a below average driver. I don’t care what other driver did what Austin did I would do what they did to Hamlin’s when he jumped earlier this year, you got away with it but from here forward this is what we will do.
love the use of examples here for the “over the line”
Hell yeah! I’m fine with them letting him keep the win, but there’s no way a 32nd place car should be in the playoffs, especially if they wreck the leaders to get there.
If murder was legal, we'd still hate the murderers. This isn't a 'hate the game, not the player' situation. Sure, things need to change, but Austin Dillon is NOT off the hook! Martin Truex wouldn't be pulling a move like that in the same situation.
Since Stenhouse caused this, his parents should be fined for supporting his racing career when he was younger. Also, future Stenhouse’s should be suspended indefinitely to prevent them from getting involved in NASCAR.
😂😂😂
Totally agree with everything thing you said. My opinion is they all got fair penalties
Busch CLEARLY wrecked Ricky this year and turned him into a wall, nothing. So that, it has to come from 4 lengths back? 3? 3.45683? 2 car lengths?? What’s the rule? What’s the line? Who says one purposeful wreck is any better or worse than another. BS
I think this is one of the few moments Nascar should intervene. In my opinion, only do right hooks and when it is obvious someone smoked another driver (Kenseth and Joe log 2015 for example). In this case, it is a little bit of both but is definitely unfair, dangerous, and is not “good racing”.
I really don't agree with what happen sunday at richmond! I not a Austin Dillon fan.No rule nascar ever has is either as simple as black or white, right or wrong. Nascar don't want the rules to be simple so they can make them up as they go!
This is a very dangerous spot to pressure NASCAR to step in for stuff like this. You're telling them to step in over a system and environment they created for entertainment. Now everything will be over analyzed that doesn't need to be. And there will be a lot of bullshit calls coming. There should also be a rule that if NASCAR is going to penalize you they shouldn't use it for promotional material cuz thts just crap.
The crappy attitude of drivers is a symptom of how bad many sectors of our society are. A vendor at a Grateful Dead theme event heard a young person say: "I have to find something to steal (from a vendor) so I can get something to eat". Dillon: "I hated to do it, but I had to". Irresponsible B.S. Hate Dillon!!!
Joey and Denny have wrecked more people than anyone 5:18
Austin Dillon joins Chase Elliot in the "I got penalized for wrecking Denny" club.
I think wrecking 1 driver for the win is OK wrecking 2 drivers is ridiculous.
What are the chances RCR appeals and gets an even harsher penalty? That would be poetic.
They should take their penalty and go home.
Harsher penalty, probably not. Appeal - good luck with that RC, The spotter squashed that possibility
Do you get a penalty for appealing . That sounds a little weird.
@@williambranham6249 per the appeals process the panel can modify the penalties if they so choose, including making them harsher if they deem it plausible
@@williambranham6249 Not for just the appeal but the independent appeal committee (non NASCAR group) could decide that the original penalty wasn't harsh enough and levy more in points and dollars. Doubt it will happen but is possible
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This might become a problem (like the yellow line rule)
Sup Engie
It’s really not, since the right hook on the 11 what did AD in. The 22 spin was borderline, but the 11 wreck crossed all lines.
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glad to see the spoiled brat get his penalty, wasnt expecting to see it
He is a brat
I am totally sickened by his crappy comment: "I hated to do it, but I had to". Reminds me of the equally crappy action that I see continually on roads here in Las Vegas as drivers run red lights EVERY time I am out driving doing errands!!!
A good start point, when you have zero possibility of making the corner, without 8 tires.
I'm not a dillion fan nor care of the outcome here.. but nascar should have handled this off season like Eric stated in an earlier video. Can't revoke playoff eligibility mid season over something that has no precedence that had been set.
Chastain did not have his playoff spot revoked when he pushed that boundary and they set the new rule n the off season.
I would say chastains move undermined the integrity way more than someone being wrecked to win a race (that has been done for years and years)
Money fine and move on and change the rule next year
This is how you set a precedent.
New fan here cuz that was awesome now he dnt get the playoffs
New fan gone
Bye
I’m in the minority but I’m not a fan of this decision. Just my opinion. NASCAR did this to themselves and none of this would have happened if we didn’t have a playoff format and if Ricky and Preece didn’t get together
I would be fine with top 16 in points make the playoffs, just get rid of the “win in your in”. Desperate moves probably would die down. NASCAR’s system has changed the mindset of drivers for sure over the years.
@@toddmanger7194 I definitely agree with you on that!! But since we don’t have that at the moment NASCAR might as well keep doing what they’re doing and let drivers be aggressive. I don’t care for it too much but I would love to see a top 16 set by points!! That would be the most fair
@@uselesspaprclip5057 I think with whatever system we have, drivers will always be aggressive. I don’t know what’s in the air, but lately drivers have been grab assin’ a lot here in the ends of the races for silly positions. Like Denny said: “I guess 24th means more than 25th to them” lol
NASCAR needs to bring back the cutoff line at least with this win and in format. Personally, I think you should be at least Top 24 in points with a Win under this format…but, I wish it would go back to the old points system and just take the Too 16 in points. MTJ was 4th a few years ago in season points and got bumped out by a last minute 1-Win Austin Dillon who was bottom barrel in points at the time.
I agree with the penalty and really I was surprised Nascar didn't just slap him on the wrist and let him keep the playoff spot they finally got one right.
The funniest part about Dennys tweet is that he posted it on Instagram as well and tagged rcr
Win and your in ?? What happened to that phrase. This is BS Nascar started this by throwing the caution with 3 laps to go. # 3 was the fastest car and how about jumping the start , Lagano ?
*Nearly 72 hours after plastering the Richmond finish on all of Nascar's social media accounts, Nascar has encumbered Dillion's win.
I like the 22 and the 11 over the 3 but the 3 should be in. You make rules before the season not after the race itself