All I know about Joss Whedon is that his parents spelled Josh wrong. That seems to strangely be missing from his wikipedia page actually. We should all go add it ASAP!
I'm Canadian and I used to pronounce it "meem" because that's how it looks like it would be pronounced. Then a few (Canadian) friends told me I'm saying it wrong and that it's actually pronounced "mem". Now I'm more confused then ever... Thanks Conan. When in doubt, trust in Nathan Fillion...
You just cited the 2nd edition of "The Selfish Gene". The 1st edition was published in 1976. Dictionaries... Dawkins, Richard (1976). The Selfish Gene. New York City: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-286092-5. Also, Wikipedia has a similar error rate to other encyclopedias. The argument about Wikipedia being a site with sources that may or may not be reliable is true for any works that reference sources. The purpose of listing sources is so they can be critiqued.
The character that Nathan plays in Much Ado, Dogberry, is hilarious! A grandious, self-important, dimwitted and really not very good security guard - there is a point in the play (actually the continuation of the scene shown - sad that it seems to have been cut out) where he calls himself "as pretty a piece of flesh as any in Mesina!" Accurate.
I'm Canadian and I say it correctly. It's meme, as in gene. Coined by Richards Dawkins many years ago. He's probably only looked at it online and not actually heard the word spoken out loud. But, the internet is going to destroy him anyways. The meme is going to be about people pronouncing words wrong. So, he's right and he's wrong at the same time.
meme? I do not pronounce it, i just read them so... *Nathan Face* The movie looks great lots of great actors too, looking forward to see it *Andy Face*
You could almost hear the crickets after the "when Joss Whedon calls you..." Apparently not a lot of Whedonverse fans in the audience... poor Nathan. You deserve better.
but in french, it is "même" not "meme." if internet memes were actually internet mêmes, then "mem" would be correct, but since the accent is missing it's "meem."
Mike Rowe got laughed at for pronouncing it "mem" and got some more laughs after explaining that there is no rule in the English language that would allow for the pronunciation "meem"..
Where the word meme really comes from: From Wikipedia The word meme is a shortening (modeled on gene) of mimeme (from Ancient Greek μίμημα Greek pronunciation: [míːmɛːma] mīmēma, "imitated thing", from μιμεῖσθαι mimeisthai, "to imitate", from μῖμος mimos "mime")[4] and it was coined by the British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene (1976)[1][5] as a concept for discussion of evolutionary principles in explaining the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena.
Is it bad I cannot take the shakespeare clip seriously? I mean, I've been in shakespearean school productions and read shakespeare in class without even the slightest smirk yet watching this... its amazingly professional and serious but I'm just finding it strangely amusing. Whats gotten into me? No disrespect to Shakey or anyone in the production of course. I'm totally clueless as to why I find it funny in the first place!!! Nathan's awesome though. And I want to come up with a cool meme from that moment.
He's right, if you haven't heard the word "meme" then you would naturally assume it's pronounced as he said it, the way the word is actually pronounced would be better spelled as meem.
lol. Dogberry is not a "serious" role. It's one of Shakespeare's best known comedic parts. Now if he played, say Richard III, and people still laughed it would've been worrying lol. With Dogberry it's how it is supposed to be, if the actor does the role justice.
Cut the guy some slack. No native English speaker, from America or Canada at least, got the pronunciation right the first time they looked at the word "meme." It was only after we heard someone pronounce it properly or looked up the pronunciation on the internet that we got it right.
You make the assumption that people that work on Wikipedia don't put an extreme amount of work into it. On top of that, throwing out a red herring about tumblr doesn't help your argument. That being said, you saw where I got my sources from and your free to dislike them how you please. I'm not rewriting my thesis. I'm pretty sure it's adequate for the context.
Guys, it's "meem", as in cream or seem. Everything I've read indicates that. What's the debate? He's saying it wrong. Canadians don't say it differently. If they do, then they're saying it wrong.
"Même" and "Mème" are two different words. Seeing that the origin of the memetic is attributed to Richard Dawkins, the word is in English originally and was sort of transcripted to French.
That's expalins how guys from BriTANicKdotcom knows Nathan Fillion. They made a youtube sketch together titled "Sexy Pool Party" you guys might to want to check it out.
No no no guys he pronounced it "mem" because that is literally how you pronounce the French "même". Which comes from the same root as "meme" and means "same". He's Canadian, remember?
Yes. There is a French word meme which is pronounced mem. No. That is not what a meme is, nor where it is derived from. Meme as in 'an idea that spreads throughout a culture from person to person' was coined in 1976 by Richard Dawkins. It is similar to a how a gene is passed from person to person in a generational manner.
It's probably a French word and he probably pronounced it right. Those actor types live to say words you know- the odds he was wrong and we are right aren't too good.
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When Joss Whedon calls you and asks, "Hey, would you like to.." you just say YES
When Joss Whedon's Caller ID shows up on the display you pick up the phone and open with the words "I'll do it"
This aged poorly...
I wonder how he pronounces "gif".
Sy Ku Gah-yf
Sy Ku I heard someone pronounce it "jif" today. I guess it's just one of those days.
Geif
He's definitely one of the best guests along with Norm, Hanks, and Selleck.
Wow I love mems
mem. holy shit.
A mem? Really Nathan?!
+squirreljester2 Maybe from the french word même? That is pronounced like that.
Maybe he purposely pronounced it as mem... to create a meme! GENIUS!
lol, love the description on this video
That one chick who laughed hysterically during the clip while everyone else was silent...
The Memes, Jack!
INTERNET MEM LEL EBIN KEKS
dank mems bro
All I know about Joss Whedon is that his parents spelled Josh wrong. That seems to strangely be missing from his wikipedia page actually. We should all go add it ASAP!
It's pronounced Me-Me
I'm Canadian and I used to pronounce it "meem" because that's how it looks like it would be pronounced. Then a few (Canadian) friends told me I'm saying it wrong and that it's actually pronounced "mem". Now I'm more confused then ever... Thanks Conan. When in doubt, trust in Nathan Fillion...
It absolutely became one
You just cited the 2nd edition of "The Selfish Gene". The 1st edition was published in 1976. Dictionaries...
Dawkins, Richard (1976). The Selfish Gene. New York City: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-286092-5.
Also, Wikipedia has a similar error rate to other encyclopedias.
The argument about Wikipedia being a site with sources that may or may not be reliable is true for any works that reference sources. The purpose of listing sources is so they can be critiqued.
I'm in love with Nathan Fillion! And Castle! ♥
We watched this in class, hilarious
Now there will be a MEM meme. A Nathan Fillion MEM meme.
Nathan Fillion, Riki "Garfunkel" Lindhome and briTANick in the same video? Too much awesomeness!
The character that Nathan plays in Much Ado, Dogberry, is hilarious! A grandious, self-important, dimwitted and really not very good security guard - there is a point in the play (actually the continuation of the scene shown - sad that it seems to have been cut out) where he calls himself "as pretty a piece of flesh as any in Mesina!" Accurate.
I'm Canadian and I say it correctly. It's meme, as in gene. Coined by Richards Dawkins many years ago. He's probably only looked at it online and not actually heard the word spoken out loud. But, the internet is going to destroy him anyways. The meme is going to be about people pronouncing words wrong. So, he's right and he's wrong at the same time.
If Malcolm Reynolds wants to be a "mem", then goddamit make him a "mem"!
meme? I do not pronounce it, i just read them so... *Nathan Face* The movie looks great lots of great actors too, looking forward to see it *Andy Face*
Love this man . .
Love this mem . .
Guys, what scene is the famous interruption gif he has?
I know its from Castle but I don't have any more info XD
This was hilarious. Couldn't stop laughing.
You could almost hear the crickets after the "when Joss Whedon calls you..." Apparently not a lot of Whedonverse fans in the audience... poor Nathan. You deserve better.
That's so awesome, Nathan Fillions part in the film was the part I played when I did this play.
Awww, Malcolm Reynolds :)
Fillion is such a great guy.
Shakespeare is difficult!
"You are an ass!"
"Remember that I am an ass."
But not as difficult as you think when you put your mind to it.
I've seen a gif of that Nathan face, so funnily enough he was right :P
"Forget not that I am an ass"
there's your mem
but in french, it is "même" not "meme." if internet memes were actually internet mêmes, then "mem" would be correct, but since the accent is missing it's "meem."
It is not originally an english word, Dawkins coined the word memetic and meme in english based on the french.
the title should be: "Nathan Fillion Creates An Internet Mem"
Mike Rowe got laughed at for pronouncing it "mem" and got some more laughs after explaining that there is no rule in the English language that would allow for the pronunciation "meem"..
Nathan should play the live-action Green lantern
Where the word meme really comes from:
From Wikipedia
The word meme is a shortening (modeled on gene) of mimeme (from Ancient Greek μίμημα Greek pronunciation: [míːmɛːma] mīmēma, "imitated thing", from μιμεῖσθαι mimeisthai, "to imitate", from μῖμος mimos "mime")[4] and it was coined by the British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene (1976)[1][5] as a concept for discussion of evolutionary principles in explaining the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena.
I'm Canadian and say "mem". I thought I was a weirdo but if the captain of Serenity says mem as well, I guess i'm not that weird.
I pronounce it "those god damn internet things that just won't go away".
he's the captain he can say whatever he wants
Is it bad I cannot take the shakespeare clip seriously? I mean, I've been in shakespearean school productions and read shakespeare in class without even the slightest smirk yet watching this... its amazingly professional and serious but I'm just finding it strangely amusing.
Whats gotten into me?
No disrespect to Shakey or anyone in the production of course. I'm totally clueless as to why I find it funny in the first place!!!
Nathan's awesome though. And I want to come up with a cool meme from that moment.
It's Much Ado... of course it's amusing. You can't watch that play and not laugh.
That's good then. Its one of the few Shakespeare productions I haven't studied or read or seen so wasn't sure if it was serious or funny. :)
'Shakey' xD
It was our nickname for him in English class. XD
omar khan Ol' Willy Shakes
Andy nailed the face.
hahaaha that was hilarious he was waiting for applause but he overestimated the geek factor in the room. Whedon is the man.
For a moment there it looked like you were saying that the word meme came from Wikipedia.
He's right, if you haven't heard the word "meme" then you would naturally assume it's pronounced as he said it, the way the word is actually pronounced would be better spelled as meem.
This guy needs to play Nathan Drake in an Uncharted movie already!
lol. Dogberry is not a "serious" role. It's one of Shakespeare's best known comedic parts. Now if he played, say Richard III, and people still laughed it would've been worrying lol. With Dogberry it's how it is supposed to be, if the actor does the role justice.
Internet memm? Noooo. *Fillion face*
Jesus Christ a mem.... im actually dying
Somebody needs to get on this!
Mem
Cut the guy some slack. No native English speaker, from America or Canada at least, got the pronunciation right the first time they looked at the word "meme." It was only after we heard someone pronounce it properly or looked up the pronunciation on the internet that we got it right.
I'm Canadian we say meme not mem, he's one guy.
He's Nathan Fillion he can pronounce it however he wants
You make the assumption that people that work on Wikipedia don't put an extreme amount of work into it. On top of that, throwing out a red herring about tumblr doesn't help your argument. That being said, you saw where I got my sources from and your free to dislike them how you please. I'm not rewriting my thesis. I'm pretty sure it's adequate for the context.
Guys, it's "meem", as in cream or seem. Everything I've read indicates that. What's the debate? He's saying it wrong. Canadians don't say it differently. If they do, then they're saying it wrong.
"Même" and "Mème" are two different words. Seeing that the origin of the memetic is attributed to Richard Dawkins, the word is in English originally and was sort of transcripted to French.
It's English. You figure, 'I know English.' *shakes head* *dramatic pause* Noooo.
hahah I just love that even when he is playing a serious role people still laugh. :P
i know how to say it correctly, but saying it as "me-me" is so much better :)
someone make a mem of him doing his mem face at him saying mem......Also, MEM!
*shakes fist*
Fillion!
wow...... camera guy and production team win
Nathan you're funny. Awesome stuff!
Conan and Andy = Batman and Robin
That's expalins how guys from BriTANicKdotcom knows Nathan Fillion. They made a youtube sketch together titled "Sexy Pool Party" you guys might to want to check it out.
No no no guys he pronounced it "mem" because that is literally how you pronounce the French "même". Which comes from the same root as "meme" and means "same". He's Canadian, remember?
Was his pronunciation of "meme" a subtle callback to his pretense of knowing english? Nice one Fillion.
That's the best mem I've ever seen.
Britanick deserves an interview
Andy looked like he was pooping his pants (and enjoying it).
It's meme because it's a french word that sounds like mem but it is meme. He said it correctly!
Wrong. It was created by Richard Dawkins in his book The Selfish Gene, and is supposed to sound similar to the word "gene".
Yes. There is a French word meme which is pronounced mem.
No. That is not what a meme is, nor where it is derived from. Meme as in 'an idea that spreads throughout a culture from person to person' was coined in 1976 by Richard Dawkins. It is similar to a how a gene is passed from person to person in a generational manner.
I wonder if anyone is going to tell Mr Fillion that he pronounced "ass" wrong..
He is the real life incarnation of Nathan Drake
Andy's "mem" is the funniest.
Yes, but it was based upon french. I pronounce it meem, but I don't think he's wrong it saying it mem either. At least he doesn't say may-may.
So he plays the Constable Dogberry? Cool.
Richard Dawkins was the first to use the word in reference to the internet, but the word itself is much older.
he is perfect to play nathan drake
Someone should make a fan correction out of this
MEH FACE + MEME = MEHM // GET ON NATHAN'S LEVEL
i wanna see him be the new han solo
He just destroyed the Canadian stereotype
Conans the man
Which in itself could be the actual Meme.
Conan, let my band play on your show!
Looked more like something someone would turn into a response gif for Tumblr, not a meme.
For the longest time I thought it was "mee-mee"...
If anyone would appreciate making fun of Nathan Fillion, I think it would be Nathan Fillion.
It's pronounced like Meem, not Mem. Even though a hundred people have already said it, my OCD wouldn't let it go.
We miss you firefly
Lol “Mem” became the meme
What's that you said? Was it... Firefly?
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It's probably a French word and he probably pronounced it right. Those actor types live to say words you know- the odds he was wrong and we are right aren't too good.
Is that "DEL with it"? Or "DEEL with it"? :D
Someone please tell supercool Nathan Fillion how to pronounce "meme" correctly.