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3:58 SID think about it. At what point of regulation would a Capitalist society become socialist? Food for thought : during covid when all economic activity was stopped 🇮🇳 created 40 new billionars. How is that possible?
4:00:10 aim of public service like roads, communication, public transport, education, defense, Food Corporation, or gov owned ports is not to generate profit. It's serve the people. If a public company produces profit but fails to reach the poor then that psu is a failure. Aim is not profit there. In that sense I don't think isro is profitable, that's not the goal. Goal is to reach space.
@@Weekend_Activist_HQ You are right : there are services, as you have mentioned, that “we the people” expect the govt., elected by us, to provide us with. We pay them for that! Sadly, what ought to have been most importantly on the top of your list is missing, i.e.: implementation of rule of law(policing and justice). Implementation of RoL is one area where making a profit can never be a motive. It is the essential to a civil society. Profit is not a bad word. There is a difference between making a profit and looting. Under Socialist India we are being looted because neither are the services you have mentioned being properly provided; nor is dealing with govt. officials free of corruption and red-tapism. If a PSU makes a profit then it is the “sovereign”(we the people) who gain. A good example of running PSUs is the way Singapore runs them. Private is not a bad word. It means owned by the “people”(govt of the people, by the people, for the people). When a govt. run institution runs at a loss, it is never closed down, the tax payer is saddled with bearing its losses for eternity. When a pvt. business runs at a loss, it is his loss to bear. It is not the business of govt. to run businesses. The government has only 3 core functions in a civilised society: protection of law-abiding citizens from the law breakers ( functions of police and judiciary); protection of the country from external threats (armed forces); to provide essential services and creation of infrastructure for the common usage of all citizens where privatisation may have conflicting interests with the common usage and to run infrastructure that private interests may not find profitable to run or where the investment required is so large that no private company can or would wish to take the risk. Further reading : Wealth of Nations - Adam Smith.
@@melroyc.f.fernandes7467 Adam Smith, that oooold one. And yet people cringe when someone say Marx (double standard Alert⚠️) Disagree : private wealth is not public. Services don't need to make profit that's thw point I was explaining. And gov spend a lot of money to pvt companies too. Lot of tax cuts, schemes for their support etc. So enough with that joke.
@@Weekend_Activist_HQ I like listening to all sides of a story. I tried reading Marx’s, “Das Kapital” but it felt like reading the “Also-ran” (the 2nd “Ex” that Arif is). Adam Smith's observations(that is all he did and presented just like Darwin) were more realistic and factual than Marx's fairy tales. People like Smith, Darwin, Socrates, Homer do not age! Below is a list i’d provided in an earlier comment made to this same video. “Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.” ― Thomas Sowell, The Thomas Sowell Reader. The Road to Serfdom - Friedrich Hayek. The Law - Frederic Bastiat. Free to Choose - Milton Friedman. Liberty Vs the Tyranny of Socialism - Walter E. Williams. Sanjeev Sabhlok blog : “Extract from “Socialism” by Charles Bradlaugh”. I absolutely agree with you that Pvt. Wealth is not Public. i don't know how you understood the opposite. It is Socialist and bad govts that provide : “Lot of tax cuts, schemes for their support etc.”, protectionism,tariffs etc.. In a free market economy govts. are not supposed to interfere, they are only required to regulate ( play referee) and facilitate(part of their core functions). Yes, in practice “crony capitalism” a free-market economy just as it exists in socialist and communist States too. That is a human thing.
Why do you hate religion man ?.. why have started this crusade... you really think religions can be replaced by rationality .. when primates Evolutionly has built religious like system for group selection .... Your crusade is against Evolution and science .. which you can never win
(why do you call him rational) Why does he talk about human rights, when he says the French Hijab ban is OK? What about the Abaya ban, and where does it stop? In France its not about uniforms, and even if it was, a good uniform includes various add-ons within its code, using its school colours and identifiable markings etc. If students of a school wish to wear scarfs, and thats in line with their religion, simply make a scarf in the school colours, as part of the uniform and allow those students who wish to wear it, their basic rights. Liberals show deep contradictions in their thinking when they ban normative modest dress, on the basis of, what is actually anti religious sentiment. ( the most irrational characters I've come across)
@@AntiImperialist666 Let's do a thought experiment. Let's say a religious government bans all secular dressing, or anything which could be seen as secular. No blue jeans, no shirts.... etc .... and says well anyone who's not happy can leave the country.... Would you see that as rational.... ? ....and one should note that even in highly religious countries, where dress code is important, a range of acceptability must be given to allow people who don't practice that religion to have their own dress within a given range or to allow the non religious to dress as they feel comfortable whilst still remaining within a given range.... ( Meaning all and sundry have recognised the need for practicality and diversity) When will the French learn about basic human dignity... ? ....and lastly I encourage everyone to wear all & any religious dressing they please if they ever visit France, and if they or the people living there are not allowed to..... Never visit
To all individuals who identify as former Muslims, I urge you not to blindly adhere to Islam solely because it was your parents' religion. Take the initiative to study and understand it for yourself. Many of you may be educated or not well-educated, and your decision to leave the faith may have been influenced by various factors, often related to scientific understanding. However, I want to share that what challenged my faith was the concept of human biological evolution. Rather than letting this shake my beliefs, I dedicated considerable time to researching and gathering information from both scientific and Islamic perspectives. Through this process, I am grateful to say that I reaffirmed my faith even stronger than before. As humans, we possess the remarkable ability to question our existence and surroundings, and it is essential for us to seek answers independently, rather than succumbing to external influences. Those who have left the true faith will, indeed, be in a regrettable position, even more than those who have never even tried to understand or never sought the truth which are disbelievers. Ultimately, those who have abandoned Islam may find themselves facing the most profound regret on the Day of Judgment. InshaAllah, may Allah be praised.
@@MR.FlyingMonkey I am sorry. Both Wuz and Salatul Tasbi are not common words here in Indonesia therefore I have no idea what you are talking about, but I guess this Salatul Tasbi is Salah at-Tasbih ( صلاة التسبيح) which again is not very common here because its practice is based on a pretty weak hadith.
@@MR.FlyingMonkey Ok. Next time if you want to ask me about anything Islamic please write down the term in Arabic/Hijaiya letters. South Asian transliteration is sometimes confusing for us Indonesians. Thanks.
Bro you are literally named "Krishna" 😂😂 It's Sanghis like you that fake being an ex-muslim and make people doubt existence of genuine real ex-muslims atheists.
I’m an atheist hindu. And i’m proud of hinduism it’s an identity that I won’t give up. If i was born in a religion like islm, i would never have been able to openly tell my family and friends that i don’t believe in god. The acceptance is appreciable.
same here. many hindus/liberals in india are trying to get the attention that ex-muslims receive but its a non-issue in hinduism. i m an atheist but i go to temples, celebrate festivals , follow a veg diet
@@AA13494 Disliking a culture is not equivalent to being an atheist. Im a ex-muslim atheist & im fond of japanese, chinese and north eastern culture. But however religious culture, including islamic and sanatani culture, are based on rulings and guidelines, of these ancient texts of religions, i.e., find their ground in religiousity. These things promote childhood indoctrination, subjective interpretations of ancient texts, devoid of science and rationality etc which in turn promote religious intolerance, tribalistic behaviour and kill rational & reasonal thinking. Going to temples, enjoying festivals are all about enjoyment and spending quality time with friends and family. I too enjoy Eid but I pretend to pray. But engaging in actual religious activities such as praying to any god, idols, spirit, etc makes one a theistic individual. So, excusing it in the name of culture doesn't make that theistic individual an atheist. So the difference must be made here. Edit: I have read stories of many ex-hindu atheists that have been discriminated a lot and received tons of scolding from the gurus and their own families & now they are hiding their identity. Belief and faith is rooted in this culture. So, saying ex-hindus have it easy is mistaken. Ex-muslims have it extremely tough but I wont say the ex-hindus are having a jolly time.
To all the exmuslims,hindus,jain,sikhs,Christians out there, don't worry you are not alone in this. We are all in this together, let's overcome our prejudices against each other and prevail as kind humans.
Everyone in India needs to unite and fight against Radicals - radical Muslims, radical Hindus, radical Leftists, radical Christians, radical Nationalists, radical Communists, radical Separatists, Corrupt politicians & Bureaucracy etc. Only then can India moves towards a true path of peace and prosperity for most of its inhabitants.
@@flowerinthewild-x5u I never compared communism as ussr .. Communism is always a failure ... Whole world knows the loopholes behind this ... Especially for developing for a developing countries
@@flowerinthewild-x5uyou want to create a classless society by controlling the means of production right? What if someone doesn't give up their means of production? What if someone openly criticizes communism in a communist country? And how do you intend to seize the means of production if people don't vote you to majority in loksabha elections?
@@lookintoit4537 (1) well yeah thats somewhat the idea but I dont want to control the means of production I would like everyone to be able to control the means of production together and having a democratic workplace. (2) same answer as what if a slave plantation owner doesn't give up his plantation, even capitalist liberal democracy uses force to get hold of the means of production from feudalism or monarchy, if we dont take over means of production from those who exploit us we would be slaves even today (3) nothing, communist countries don't exist. (4) in my view elections are not likely to bring socialism or communism just like elections did not get India independence, how do you change the system? Well there are many opinions on that, a mass movement of worker non cooperation can be one which makes sense to me currently, communism is not one single ideology, there are people who suggest one method and people who suggest another, the bottom line is the aspiration for a classless society, methods are always a question like in every other political idea
@@flowerinthewild-x5u You don't lived in a communist state. We Keralites are living in it. You are the one that don't know what is communism and why don't it work.
Actually they did think he's their ally and invited him to one of their sessions for a speech hoping he'll talk against Islam. Let's just say they'll probably not call him back again any time soon 😂
@@rishinarayan7663you can believe Hindu Gods don't exist, there's no karma, rebirth. Only materialistic things matter and present life matters. Hinduism doesn't have one book one God system. You have the freedom to believe what you feel is right. Beliefs and practices that originated in Indian subcontinent is called as Hinduism, there are polytheists, monotheists and sects that reject vedas.
Yeah I think when people are claiming to be atheists here, they are saying that their beliefs and actions are based on science and rational thinking, and not derived from the ideas originated from Indian subcontinent (as you defined it) . So let them be atheists in peace? 😅
@@rishinarayan7663being a Hindu is a civilizational identity not a religious one. Calling themselves ex Hindu without understanding it's true meaning is what I fear. They can call themselves whatever they feel comfortable though.
I was born a human, family and society told me i am a hindu when i grew up and started understanding language. I had to do ghar-wapasi to become a human again 😊
@@GyanTvAmit he is a hindu, if u ask him he will say he was born hindu. Just how there is no other species which is hindu, muslim etc, i was not either.
@@GyanTvAmit i think i should elaborate more else my statement can be misrepresented. When we are born, we are nameless, only as an individual. Due to the limitations of language which requires nouns for identification we are given a name(noun). Even with a different noun it will be same individual. But religion and its ideology is shaped by people and their views who are around us. Its not innate from birth nor is it necessary like a name which serves a purpose of identification. We never took birth as hindu muslim etc. We were told as we grew up.
@@GyanTvAmitbelief system and "being" doesn't go hand in hand. What is "born Hindu"? Is there a nano chip of hinduism we bring from "heaven" in our DNA? 😂😂😂 That's why it calls "human BEING" and NOT "Hindu being" smh🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Have been living as an Atheist (ex-Hindu) since the past 3 years. I feel so liberated and free now. I finally realized that mankind doesn't needs religion or gods for whatsoever reason.
liberated from what?? what kind of shackles/restricitions did it put on u?? r u from jai bhim army?? asked u wear a burkha, let yr husband hv 4 wives, multiple kids, no right to divorce, promoted wife beating, stooped u from being frnds with a kaafir, pray 5 times, pay zakat.
It is such fun listening to Arif,though I agree that economies are much more complicated than capitalism and socialism but his clarity about religion and economics is 1st class,Keep up the good work
Every religion is bad but Islam is worst, Communism is worst, Extreme Right and Extreme left both are bad please stay in the middle. Please bring multiple choice voting system for common people. thanks 😊
Please check out: 1) SecondThought 2) hasimalrah2105 3) democracyatwork 4) Viki1999 I'm sure you'll get a good understanding of why communism is better :)
Thanks guys. What an incredible conversation and insight into ex Muslim perspective. I wish I knew Malayalam to so as to follow Arif's channel. 35:40 Reason why homeopath or alternative medicine flourishes. 👏👏
2:23:35. Pranav you might now be knowing that marriage laws in india are based on religion. So Muslim marriage law has provisions wherein one party leaves Islam they cannot seek for Custody of the children. Hence you're having this confusion as to why Arif is not able to see his children
3:21 ARIF I agree with a lot of your points except on your thoughts on political economy. There is a lot to unpack here but something you said about EVs cannot be over looked. So I will just address that. Lakhs of crore are spend subsiding EV technology, not just in india around the world. So that's a public expenditure and the profit again goes to the company. 3:21:05
You need to strike balance. The most basic example is comparing America with western Europe. Scandinavian and Nordic nations take a lot of tax (more than 60%) and have a lot of socialist policies. The standard of living and social security is a lot better over there compared to America where healthcare is soo terrible that they charge for holding the baby after guving birth. Something like normal CT scan cost a fortune and let's not even talk about their gun lobby and school systems. Their skyscrapers in New York are all empty while homeless people are all over the place. Veterans are treated like sh**.
arif hussain 😂😂😂 he was a very famouse atheist from kerala but he was destroyed miserably in the very first debate he ever had with shuhaib haithami. some muslim imam no one knew about. haithami destroyed arif so much no one from kerala respects him anymore. and science is dope spends 4 hours on him. poor pranav, giving him another life line in english. this is why these atheists never do a debate, always monologue only 😅. may be that's why people like zakir naik always asks them for a debate. and atheist always run away. poor arif opted for debate, and got destroyed.😅
3:37:20 Arif Bro Unbelievable. So according to you when jio cuts prices for that its capitalism and when become the only company in the market by distroying competetion thats soscialism. It feels like you are just lebeling everything you like as capitalism ans what you dislike as socialism 3:37:20
That is his pattern. Like he said earlier he had Islam vs the World attitude, Homeopathy vs the World and Communism vs the World. And now it is Capitalism vs Socialism. He can only think in binary. It is some kind of deficiency obviously
arif hussain 😂😂😂 he was a very famouse atheist from kerala but he was destroyed miserably in the very first debate he ever had with shuhaib haithami. some muslim imam no one knew about. haithami destroyed arif so much no one from kerala respects him anymore. and science is dope spends 4 hours on him. poor pranav, giving him another life line in english. this is why these atheists never do a debate, always monologue only 😅. may be that's why people like zakir naik always asks them for a debate. and atheist always run away. poor arif opted for debate, and got destroyed.😅
Excellent podcast, Pranav. I have one point to make. Branding oneself as an ex-communist should give off red flags about the person's legitimacy on the subject. Unlike the other-isms, communism is not a group one can be part of. Hence, one cannot leave because there is no way to join. I guess one could become a member of CPI and leave. That would make that person an ex-CPI member. I don't wanna dissect all of Arif's arguments here, but I broadly contend that his ideas on political economy and the state are not fully formed. Crucially, he never stated exactly what made him become an "ex-communist." He moved on to say there were entities like Stalin, Mao, and North Korea, so he became disenfranchised. It's unfortunate to hear this because this is a common way for the bourgeoisie to disregard a layered political ideology. The simple response is, Stalin, etc., as opposed to what? The US war machinery, bombs dropped on Hiroshima, Bengal famine, the absolute decimation of many African states? If we start counting the bodies, capitalism's numbers will stretch around our solar system. But that is a juvenile way to assess the core of a political ideology and proves that our man didn't do his homework on the topic. He has thoughts and found ways to justify it without dissecting the core of socialism or communism. So, when he says he is a socialist now, or whatever, is laughable because I can tell that he doesn't fully grasp the tenets of that ideology either. Arif also glossed over his reading of Capital and didn't articulate what about the text made him disagree with it. Finally, I just wanna say that using a Marxist core text to discredit communism is a shallow reading of political economy/sociology. But oh well! People have opinions, I guess. I just don't get why folks fear critiquing capitalism so much. It gives us so much perspective on our current existence and highlights power imbalances in our interaction with this system. Instead, we come up with elaborate ways to look the other way.
@@Rey_th7 name a country where capitalism worked? It's about learning from experience. It doesn't mean that we should start treating Das Kapital as the Bible.
@@Rey_th7 Democratic Socialism has been successfully practiced in Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland where capitalism is thriving and people have a high quality of life, they are also one of the wealthiest countries. Many countries adopted corrective Socialism like Vietnam. Socialist references can also be found in the constitutions of India, Sri Lanka, Portugese, Bangladesh, Korea, Guyana, Nicaragua (the list is longer but I can only recall these many).
Due to rational thinking I started to become atheist but after watching this conversation my faith in Hinduism and in Hindurashtra has increased 100x Arif is saying Islamic faith is major problem but not the Muslim. He conveniently forgetting that Muslim man is blind follower of Islam and I am 100% sure that 99% of Muslim people in India will not understand that Arif is saying and they will never accept it, thats why we need leadership like Yogi Adityanath, Modiji, Sangh to fight with Islamic extremist. Some people are proudly declaring themselves as Ex-Hindu but for me, I will become Ex-Hindu the day last Muslim in India becomes Ex-Muslim. Jai Hind.
bro, giving podcast in cozy room will never penetrate in Muslim mases considering level of education and brain washing there is lot of islamic extremism going on on the grassroots. I live in Mumbai i have seen it upclose. historically we have saved our lives being united with Hinduism. same is case with the nation. being Rationalist I know that GOD does not exist as a superbeing or even that mythology stories are not real historically accurate. In short my definition for Hinduism is Nationalism as it was intended by many freedom fighters (I have read Swami Vivekananda) to unite the youth nation-wide. Islam will always be anti nationalist and threat to India/Hindustan and Hinduism will always be counter to islamic extremism. There are lot to talk, I wish one day I can talk with you when you are open for discussion with common man of India. Thanks for the reply.
Many things here are explainable in sanatan as a exmuslim myself i respect atheist and agnostic beliefs but as i myself has gone through that phase of atheiest then agnostic then becoming hindu i highly recommend u to read bhagavat geeta to get answers
3:50:10 makingvit harder for me to be quite Arif bro. Covid vaccines are an excellent example for how profit motive companies benefit from human suffering. The private companies in US were subsidied by their gov to produce these vaccines, gov gave funds, resources and allowed them to use patents held by gov. When it came to selling the vaccine the companies held all the profit. So the risk of vaccine development was socialized but the profits were privatized. Quick word about china and russia , atleast they gave vaccines for free to many poor countries. China 100 free , russia 50% free.
He knows nothing. He's giving dumb arguments against communism. Extremely elementry and easily refutable like "any one can become a billionaire". The question is "do we need billionaires?" . Billionaires exploit people. Look at pepsi destroying health and doing unethical marketing and spreading misinformation about it not being unhealthy. Look at Fast fashion brands overproducing clothes (using crazy amount of water) and then dumping them in developing nations. Look at South korea. Its called samsung republic. Samsung is soo shady over there and involved in mistreatment of soo many people. They face no consequences.
@@au29Kuchh bhi?! Even if it's called a podcast, it's in the format of an interview. Why can't a podcast be an interview? BTW, the meaning of podcast has changed. It used to be just audio (monologue or dialogue), not video, for iPod.
Yes, he is wrong about CAA-NRC. He doesn't see politics in anything. That's what's wrong about him. Not everyone was shouting Islamic slogans during the protests. Many Hindus participated. Why does Arif think they are all just 'wokes and fools'. Do your think celebrities in Delhi were influenced by PFI? Do you think JNU students, mostly Hindus, get influenced so easily by PFI propaganda. What he explained was CAA (allowing oppressed non-Muslims from other countries). What about NRC? That's designed to trouble Indian citizens. It's not for asylum seekers.
Fantastic conversation as usual! Would love to see a deep dive video on Charvak and other evidence oriented philosophies from ancient India. A lot of RW channels have appropriated that philosophy and that is the reason it is difficult to find authentic information about such ideas, especially on yt.
@@INDIANATHEIST526i think he also has some english videos but mainly he is relavent in malayalam channel debates and all so to cater that viewrs he use malayalam
I guess he's being malayali and knows the muslims there and others too can speak with relevancy. So Malayalam is more than enough. If he speaks for everyone(in english), he must've very well known abt it beforehand otherwise he would be tagged as being IRRELEVANT, IGNORANT. But to keep track of Kerala, his perspective in english would be meaningful.
I'm an atheist Hindu, hopefully we would recognise one day that all this "holy" books are in the end folk tales and work of imagination. It's good to remember them as it's an important part of our culture but remember to not let them becomes the chains on our mind. 😊
I am also athiest hindu but still i go to temple as it does not harm me. But i also follow some philosophy specially vedant. I would recommend you to read the same.
The way he described kashmir files and Kerala Story without taking the political scenario of the country where 'muslims' are being labelled as 'ohers' and 'trouble makers' into account is simply pathetic.. If you can't share a single clear sentence regarding the right wing propoganda conveyed through these movies but you can casually talk about the innate exaggeration found inside "movies", then, sorry to say, but you are a shame!! Kudos to pranav for mentioning 'propaganda', atleast in that question.
@@naved6095yes, and I think he was totally right to emphasize on the importance of accepting the factual nature of reality, in the case of genocide and terrorism. But the question by pranav was clearly pointing towards the propaganda part of these movies. And the way he responded to that aspect was more or less similar to How a diplomatic bjp spokperson would uphold the creator's imaginary wisdoms and dramatic nature of movies. (Though these movies are labelled as Super factual.)
@@Ashir_karuna_dayabro ik it was wrong but i think it's due to his muslim background and so most times he is biased for the things which are against Muslims (ik malayalam have seen his videos) in most muslim related things he is biased for the opposite side even though he don't support any religion
1:55 to 2:00 Truly disappointed with Pranav, There was no mention of NRC along with CAA which basically has caused chaos among people. CAA was not the only reason it's CAA+NRC.
Very evident that there are crony capitalists in India which proves free market system has failed. Now when you say this many pro-capitalists get paranoid and point at Lenin, Stalin, Mao. Arif is also the same. In what way Modi backed Adani and Ambani are less monsters than a Stalin or a Mao? The trickle down mechanism is also not working as we inequality has increased than ever before. Also no one addresses why only North India Banias are the only major players. Isn't it clear their caste hegemony is still carrying. In no way India is a fair market. Its casteist crony market.
It was a great interview. As a supporter of CAA, I would like to suggest Pranav to go through the bill and get more clarity on the issue. Even though the guest tried to correct Pranav on this, he did not explain it properly. CAA does not make it more difficult for Muslims to get Indian citizenship. They qualify for applying for citizenship if they are living in India for more than 11 years. It just makes it easier for minorities from 3 specefic countries - Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan to qualify for Indian citizenship. It's a law that in no way affects any Muslim in India citizen or non-citizen.
@@myhonestcomments NRC was in discussions. But when CAA was passed not even a draft a of NRC was ready. It's still not ready. So how can anyone explain what's wrong with it? Opponents were chasing a ghost. And in their paranoia they ended up negatively affecting even the people who genuinely needed help through CAA.
@@sandytatham3592 This is called fear mongering. If this small X happens then it would lead to this big Y. What you see as discrimination based on religion, I see as a law that helps out those who are persecuted. If CAA is discrimination based on religion then I can count many things in India that already discriminate against you based on your religious identity. Why do we have minorities affairs ministry? Why do we have special concessions and benefits for religious minorities? Why do we have reservations based on caste identity? All these are called "reasonable classification" and not "discrimination". People turned paranoid because it was BJP that passed this law. If Congress had passed the same law, it would not even be in discussion.
@@vibhavdeshpande8196 : Call it what you like, but that doesn't change the fact that a "secular democracy" should NEVER discriminate on the basis of religion. Stop putting religion on any identification documents. Stop using religion as a device for division. Discrimination should be on economic status, or for things such as disabilities, but definitely NOT religion. I would call out any political party that passed a law specifically discriminating on religious beliefs.
1:54:00 was listening him carefully and agreed with most of the points until this point,,it seems like he is completely unaware about the political scenario of the country... listen to everybody but don't trust anyone blindly......I am also a so called muslim atheist since childhood when this word wasn't cool ..and didn't have to read or listen to someone to become an atheist this is a common sense....
arif hussain 😂😂😂 he was a very famouse atheist from kerala but he was destroyed miserably in the very first debate he ever had with shuhaib haithami. some muslim imam no one knew about. haithami destroyed arif so much no one from kerala respects him anymore. and science is dope spends 4 hours on him. poor pranav, giving him another life line in english. this is why these atheists never do a debate, always monologue only 😅. may be that's why people like zakir naik always asks them for a debate. and atheist always run away. poor arif opted for debate, and got destroyed.😅
3:57:23 CSR funds are not regulated properly. Secondly its left to the companies to decide what to spend where to spend. 3rd it lacks transparency. 4y companies can and are spending CSR funds on activities that inc their profits. It has bwcome just another part of their marketing budget, pr fund. Better way would be for the gov to tax company profits or impose a minimum wage law in India.
To all individuals who identify as former Muslims, I urge you not to blindly adhere to Islam solely because it was your parents' religion. Take the initiative to study and understand it for yourself. Many of you may be educated or not well-educated, and your decision to leave the faith may have been influenced by various factors, often related to scientific understanding. However, I want to share that what challenged my faith was the concept of human biological evolution. Rather than letting this shake my beliefs, I dedicated considerable time to researching and gathering information from both scientific and Islamic perspectives. Through this process, I am grateful to say that I reaffirmed my faith even stronger than before. As humans, we possess the remarkable ability to question our existence and surroundings, and it is essential for us to seek answers independently, rather than succumbing to external influences. Those who have left the true faith will, indeed, be in a regrettable position, even more than those who have never even tried to understand or never sought the truth which are disbelievers. Ultimately, those who have abandoned Islam may find themselves facing the most profound regret on the Day of Judgment. InshaAllah, may Allah be praised.
Bro hassanshoaib you are damn GOON, living for 70 to 90 years with sufferings just because of ensured eternity. Isn't it best not to be born in this beautiful world .
Dear Mr. Pranav & Mr. Arif, Can't we file a Court case to declare Homeopathy as not backed by Science and therefore the practioners should not be called Doctors and no Colleges or Degrees. We can't ban it but can strip it off institutional and governmental support.
Oh man, you said it.. I don't know whether he has any idea regarding the way capitalism makes the rich richer and keeps the poor mostly poor. as a person with basic understanding of economics, Listening to what he was saying is "just depressing"
@@Ashir_karuna_dayaNot really… what makes the rich richer and the poor poorer is not capitalism, but unwanted regulation. Regulations are the cause of permanent monopolies, too. In a perfectly free market where competition is preserved, monopolies cannot sustain for long. Innovative disruptions can kill monopolies.
@@gauravtejpal8901that's why there are anti trust laws. In India we have competition commission of India which tried to regulate monopolies and break them to increase competition.
His idea of capitalism is more idealistic than practical. Socialism has it's flaws but capitalism is at it's practical worst. Capitalism is supposed to lead to better competition etc... However it leads to chokepoints, monopolies and monopsonies that when entrenched with politics is the ideal controlling tool to ensure your business can never die out.
agreed... us anti-capitalists are not really saying "bring communism ho ho". We just want discussions to happen and people to understand why capitalism as it is right now is worrying...
What do you mean capitalist is at its worst? There are far worse forms of economic systems and they all have failed. Capitalist is and foe a long time will be the best system there is.
@@tathagatquandaliusganesh1082 Capitalism has lead to a hourglass structure whereby we have oligopolies and oligopsonies, such that the control remains under the hand of capitalist. In fact in 1960s Henry Ford wanted to share some his Company profits to his employees for their hardwork, which was after all the salaries and bonuses were paid for. He was sued by his own shareholders where the court sided with the shareholders that the goal of the company and the BOD is the maximize the wealth of the Shareholder. Capitalist society always leads to monopolies and monopsonies, it is always governmental and union interferences that makes capitalist pay more. Wages have been stagnant since 2000s mate. Demand and supply right? It's very easy to manipulate that especially when economy goes into recession. In fact Capitalists are more than happy to falsely promote their products or create industries that don't need to be created by creating absurd demand and constricting supply. Diamond jewelry industry is a literal proof. Planned Obsolescence another one of Capitalism's boon making products more useless just so they can be sold more. Capitalism by itself is a disaster. It has only survived because of heavy government regulations and legal proceedings. Hell, Kingfisher's CEO ran away and Government had to take control of the organisation just so that employees don't become unemployed, tax payer money used to pay for employees. Capitalism has no way to check for these issues. Bank bailouts, Company restructuring plans etc etc. A lot of these socialistic bebefits are provided to companies who get so big they influence GDP of a country. So yea, Capitalism literally is at it's practical worst
Oh ok just one question, why aren't there any socialist nations(excluding authoritarian ones) that have survived yet? I mean Soviet Union collapsed and so many others aswell while China and Vietnam shifted to capitalist market economy? Capitalism maybe unethical but socialism isn't even sustainable. In my opinion, the most successful socialist experiment were the kibbutzim from israel but even they got privatized into capitalism.
I really really hope this man learns Hindi and tell the world his thought, A rational man!! A rational man, indeed This is exactly what I keep thinking!
Interesting thoughts on religion, science and everything else. But I think the CAA question was incomplete .....CAA was not a problem but the combination of CAA and NRC might be a problem. So, this topic needs more discussion
Dude said politician should speak about islam and not muslim 😂😂, nupur sharma did that, she just said what was written in ur book but look what happened 😂
2:55:10 If I remember correctly, the number never said that it was 32k recruitments from Kerala. Of course, in that context, it sounded like that (the old "Ashwathama (the elephant)" thing?), but I watched the movie, and it didn't assert that the 32k figure was from Kerala (or even India) alone
The podcast was great there were some great insights from both of you but I felt there was less rebuttal from Pranav when the topic went from homeopath to communism because the subject went to ideology and politics which I felt Pranav tried to do his bit but wasn't challenging enough due to limited knowledge from his expertise. For Eg when he was talking about CAA-NRC and communism and capitalism it wasn't Pranav's expertise, at this place someone like Meghnad could have given great points and rebuttals between the two of them would be great to watch. But hats off to Pranav for such a great-length podcast wishing to see much like this content even in future.
I hope your channel always stays on YT. I want to financially support your channel when i get a job. Till now i have been sharing your videos with my family who are hardcore hindus 😅. I hope your videos make them be little skeptical about their own faith. Also, i request Arif to make videos in English or Hindi if possible bc north India needs some rationality.
This is just infuriating. Arif brings forth so many logical fallacies in his discussion of capitalism, and keeps dodging definitions. Makes you wonder whether he's arguing in good faith...and whether he has personal stakes in defending capitalism. I mean, is he a businessman? No businessman would want socialism lol. Literally EVERY major power had, and still has, prison labour. Saying the USSR was the only one that did, is an explicit lie. In fact the USSR was also one of the first to shut down their prison system (the gulag). This stuff is eo easily googleable but people insist on repeating capitalist dogma like it's a religion
Free market is all about zero regulations from government. They free market argue that their shouldn't be any regulations from government. Monopoly is created even after regulations.
@@kshitizgaur9181 Lol Also hijab doesn't cover face There is huge difference between hijab and naqab/burkha...... ...and no one want burkha/Naqab to be allowed in school college university
Stupid ! There is no such thing as Ex Hindu. You can be an atheist but not ex hindu. God is defined as Sat Chit Anand, which means infinite existence, infinite knowledge, and infinite bliss. So how can anyone for that matter be ex hindu😊
This was a tight slap on Pranav 😂 when he said Islam is like cyanide and that sangh parivar has changed. He also defended kashmir files and kerala stories. Yes pseudo liberals, take notes from this guy. He’s the true definition of a liberal who values freedom of speech and expression and has guts to call out bad things of Islam.
Kerela became safe because they got used to religious criticism and got desensitized, but rushdie got attacked in usa which i think is even more desensitized. But crazies are crazies and sane people are putting targets on people whose views they disagree with.
If gathering wealth is the only way to live then capitalism is good, just as greed is good. It's also good if you want more and quickly. Again greed and impatience. Socialism seems to be based on the thought that comfortable survival is enough, without the need to become billionaires. If there was no capitalism in the world then possibly the technological progress of humanity may not have been this fast. However, there would also be less greed and crimes. So, there are pros and cons of each. Humanity would be happier if socialism was the only way. Socialism is not happy because capitalism exists. If the government has to interfere for ensuring competition then how is it a free market? Why give communist examples for socialism? Isn't there democratic socialism? Arif is using the Marxist definition of socialism.
@@lesner66Socialism by definition is production of and by the workforce. We live in a capitalistic economy therefore it is painfully obvious that socialism cannot work when we are having capitalistic tendencies. Socialism needs a different ground up model to work. Capitalism itself is practically flawed, it has now created oligosonies and oligopolies which has literally made sure that we have garbage philosophies within the economy such as "Planned Obsolescence" thanks to capitalists who wanted to produce more.
Sufi saint Sarmad Kashani who was killed by Aurangzeb for reciting half kalima was actually atheist. Sarmad was accused and convicted of atheism and unorthodox religious practice. Aurangzeb ordered his Ulema to ask Sarmad why he repeated only "There is no God", and ordered him to recite the second part, "but Allah".[17] To that he replied that "I am still absorbed with the negative part. Why should I tell a lie?" Thus he sealed his death sentence.
Oh come on, do some Homework before you ask questions related to Caa. It is irritating when you I donot know the exact details🤧. We donot want another Ranbir....
5:33) Those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and go about the earth spreading mischief55 -indeed their recompense is that they either be done to death, or be crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off from the opposite sides or be banished from the landSuch shall be their degradation in this world; and a mighty chastisement lies in store for them in the World to Come (5:34) except for those who repent before you have overpowered them..
Yes take a single verse out of context to rile the uneducated audience. I would love to see him put forth his topics in front of an actual educated muslim scholae
I too would like to call myself spiritual rather than attached to one religion. To seek God you need to have godliness, humanity the acceptance of the fact that happiness lies in harmony and co existence
Have watched a few parts of the interview so far and am not impressed with the guest, atleast I'm finding his views to be pretty naive, apathetic & ignorant especially regarding topics like propaganda & the dissemination of hate, communism and socialism etc. Honestly expect such an attitude from someone much younger & one who is quite uninformed or perhaps living in a bubble and not from someone like him. Have seen this kind of attitude though in a number of individuals who are still trying to identify their core values or who feel like they've finally discovered the ultimate truth and will now stick to & defend it with almost a delusional kind of passion at virtually any cost, like the guest choosing to turn a blind eye to the oppression of his own community (or former community) even though that's a separate issue from the problems & ills that were present in the religion he abandoned, similarly I've also seen a few Indian content creators from good/otherwise sane channels going on to bash veganism because they're angry at the cow vigilantism taking place in our country or how vegetarianism is being forced upon them (again, they're two different issues, one can choose to look at both the issues from a rational as well as an empathy based perspective rather than just going on to unnecessarily and illogically bash one in order to show a higher level of support for the other). Questioning everything also includes questioning one's own thoughts, beliefs, ideas, biases and prejudices on a regular basis so that one can continue to keep on mentally growing & evolving. You did a good job though Pranav, so kudos to you.
Yeah. I agree. Honestly so far, I am not against communism. But also knows that capitalism is inevitable. People go full or nothing. Both extremes aren't helpful but cater to hatemongers either way. Only difference is that there's switch of sides and so is the audience.
The flaws in his jizya & caste arguments were laughable 😂 And not to mention,he said that he could become a suicide bomber😢 That's sad,his father didn't taught him islam and he ended up learning islam from bollywood & sanghis. Which is why he thought that way. I'm a muslim & my parents taught me islam properly & i'm from Bangladesh,so my school has subject on islam. Most people learn islam through reading books
Please check some comprehensive arguments by Apostate Prophet, Zafar Heretic and partly Sahil and Adam seeker. There are some very core issues w.r.t. to Izlm e.g. - extreme fatal hatred towards polytheists and Jews - death sentence for apostasy i.e. leaving ( like mafia ) - allowing sexual slaves ( disgusting under any circumstance ) *These can't be commandments of any true Higher Being* Please confront the issues and evolve your understanding. Maybe then you'll see it for what it is i.e. a supremacist cult masquerading as a religion
For people arguing in the comments section, let's be clear: an ex-Hindu is STILL A HINDU! Charvaka or Atheist philosophy is one of the 6 schools of Hindu philosophy.
@@Kaiku1995No this is the problem of people who think Hinduism is just a religion like Christianity and Islam It's way of life Hindu can be anyone even though he is performing Rituals or not Either he bielve in one God or many God or he bielve in Krishna ,Shiva, Brahma, or philosophy of vedanta , etc I know any religion and their rituals can't be perfect or scientifically accurate. But In Hinduism you can easily criticise and make your own theory about world existence either it will be scientific or not Not like Muslims who bielve in only Allah and other are kafir And Christianity too But after 16th century European society changed a lot Initially churches criticise scientist or thier theory So who think scientifically led to atheism Christianity don't accept them . But today you see those countries or people are leading in scientific research such as china,USA, Europe they are mostly atheist They don't bielve in God
@@sudhanshu6538 Hinduism is a polytheistic religion and it has many Gods. Atheism means to believe that there is no God at all. An atheist will believe that Lord Krishna/ Lord Vishnu/Lord Shiva and all Gods do not exist. It is Believing in no God. So if they don't believe in any God, how will they believe in a religion.
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3:58 SID think about it. At what point of regulation would a Capitalist society become socialist?
Food for thought : during covid when all economic activity was stopped 🇮🇳 created 40 new billionars. How is that possible?
4:00:10 aim of public service like roads, communication, public transport, education, defense, Food Corporation, or gov owned ports is not to generate profit. It's serve the people. If a public company produces profit but fails to reach the poor then that psu is a failure. Aim is not profit there. In that sense I don't think isro is profitable, that's not the goal. Goal is to reach space.
@@Weekend_Activist_HQ
You are right : there are services, as you have mentioned, that “we the people” expect the govt., elected by us, to provide us with. We pay them for that! Sadly, what ought to have been most importantly on the top of your list is missing, i.e.: implementation of rule of law(policing and justice). Implementation of RoL is one area where making a profit can never be a motive. It is the essential to a civil society.
Profit is not a bad word. There is a difference between making a profit and looting. Under Socialist India we are being looted because neither are the services you have mentioned being properly provided; nor is dealing with govt. officials free of corruption and red-tapism.
If a PSU makes a profit then it is the “sovereign”(we the people) who gain. A good example of running PSUs is the way Singapore runs them.
Private is not a bad word. It means owned by the “people”(govt of the people, by the people, for the people). When a govt. run institution runs at a loss, it is never closed down, the tax payer is saddled with bearing its losses for eternity. When a pvt. business runs at a loss, it is his loss to bear.
It is not the business of govt. to run businesses.
The government has only 3 core functions in a civilised society: protection of law-abiding citizens from the law breakers ( functions of police and judiciary); protection of the country from external threats (armed forces); to provide essential services and creation of infrastructure for the common usage of all citizens where privatisation may have conflicting interests with the common usage and to run infrastructure that private interests may not find profitable to run or where the investment required is so large that no private company can or would wish to take the risk.
Further reading : Wealth of Nations - Adam Smith.
@@melroyc.f.fernandes7467 Adam Smith, that oooold one. And yet people cringe when someone say Marx (double standard Alert⚠️)
Disagree : private wealth is not public. Services don't need to make profit that's thw point I was explaining.
And gov spend a lot of money to pvt companies too. Lot of tax cuts, schemes for their support etc.
So enough with that joke.
@@Weekend_Activist_HQ I like listening to all sides of a story. I tried reading Marx’s, “Das Kapital” but it felt like reading the “Also-ran” (the 2nd “Ex” that Arif is). Adam Smith's observations(that is all he did and presented just like Darwin) were more realistic and factual than Marx's fairy tales.
People like Smith, Darwin, Socrates, Homer do not age!
Below is a list i’d provided in an earlier comment made to this same video. “Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.” ― Thomas Sowell, The Thomas Sowell Reader. The Road to Serfdom - Friedrich Hayek. The Law - Frederic Bastiat. Free to Choose - Milton Friedman. Liberty Vs the Tyranny of Socialism - Walter E. Williams. Sanjeev Sabhlok blog : “Extract from “Socialism” by Charles Bradlaugh”.
I absolutely agree with you that Pvt. Wealth is not Public. i don't know how you understood the opposite.
It is Socialist and bad govts that provide : “Lot of tax cuts, schemes for their support etc.”, protectionism,tariffs etc.. In a free market economy govts. are not supposed to interfere, they are only required to regulate ( play referee) and facilitate(part of their core functions).
Yes, in practice “crony capitalism” a free-market economy just as it exists in socialist and communist States too. That is a human thing.
"I don't like to call myself a Doctor", It takes lot of courage to make this statement Arif.
Good to see so many rational people coming forward with rational thoughts
Why do you hate religion man ?.. why have started this crusade... you really think religions can be replaced by rationality .. when primates Evolutionly has built religious like system for group selection ....
Your crusade is against Evolution and science .. which you can never win
(why do you call him rational)
Why does he talk about human rights, when he says the French Hijab ban is OK?
What about the Abaya ban, and where does it stop?
In France its not about uniforms, and even if it was, a good uniform includes various add-ons within its code, using its school colours and identifiable markings etc.
If students of a school wish to wear scarfs, and thats in line with their religion, simply make a scarf in the school colours, as part of the uniform and allow those students who wish to wear it, their basic rights.
Liberals show deep contradictions in their thinking when they ban normative modest dress, on the basis of, what is actually anti religious sentiment.
( the most irrational characters I've come across)
@@aceheart5828France has french secularism. If someone doesn't like that they can leave France. I'm sure the French government wouldn't mind at all.
@@AntiImperialist666
Let's do a thought experiment.
Let's say a religious government bans all secular dressing, or anything which could be seen as secular. No blue jeans, no shirts.... etc
.... and says well anyone who's not happy can leave the country....
Would you see that as rational.... ?
....and one should note that even in highly religious countries, where dress code is important, a range of acceptability must be given to allow people who don't practice that religion to have their own dress within a given range or to allow the non religious to dress as they feel comfortable whilst still remaining within a given range.... ( Meaning all and sundry have recognised the need for practicality and diversity)
When will the French learn about basic human dignity... ?
....and lastly I encourage everyone to wear all & any religious dressing they please if they ever visit France, and if they or the people living there are not allowed to..... Never visit
Glad seeing an ex-muslim on this channel.
- from an Indonesian ex-muslim.
To all individuals who identify as former Muslims, I urge you not to blindly adhere to Islam solely because it was your parents' religion. Take the initiative to study and understand it for yourself. Many of you may be educated or not well-educated, and your decision to leave the faith may have been influenced by various factors, often related to scientific understanding. However, I want to share that what challenged my faith was the concept of human biological evolution. Rather than letting this shake my beliefs, I dedicated considerable time to researching and gathering information from both scientific and Islamic perspectives. Through this process, I am grateful to say that I reaffirmed my faith even stronger than before. As humans, we possess the remarkable ability to question our existence and surroundings, and it is essential for us to seek answers independently, rather than succumbing to external influences. Those who have left the true faith will, indeed, be in a regrettable position, even more than those who have never even tried to understand or never sought the truth which are disbelievers. Ultimately, those who have abandoned Islam may find themselves facing the most profound regret on the Day of Judgment. InshaAllah, may Allah be praised.
How many Wuz in Salatul Tasbi ?
@@MR.FlyingMonkey I am sorry. Both Wuz and Salatul Tasbi are not common words here in Indonesia therefore I have no idea what you are talking about, but I guess this Salatul Tasbi is Salah at-Tasbih ( صلاة التسبيح) which again is not very common here because its practice is based on a pretty weak hadith.
@@arusirham3761 😁😁 as expected, Ok I understood dear "x muslim"
I'm also ex 🅱️!ndu , nice to meet you 😂👍🏻
@@MR.FlyingMonkey Ok. Next time if you want to ask me about anything Islamic please write down the term in Arabic/Hijaiya letters. South Asian transliteration is sometimes confusing for us Indonesians. Thanks.
I too am an Ex Muslim...and I do feel that the light of Knowledge will help more people to come out from the darkness of I S L A M ..
Accha....Maa ki Kasam kha😂😂😂
Bro you are literally named "Krishna" 😂😂 It's Sanghis like you that fake being an ex-muslim and make people doubt existence of genuine real ex-muslims atheists.
unstable minds leave Islam like you not all
@@bellarikaleempeacechanel8810So u want a paedophile to be ur idol?
@@bellarikaleempeacechanel8810he's not exmuslim he's just a right wing bjp
Thanks
I’m an atheist hindu. And i’m proud of hinduism it’s an identity that I won’t give up.
If i was born in a religion like islm, i would never have been able to openly tell my family and friends that i don’t believe in god. The acceptance is appreciable.
same here. many hindus/liberals in india are trying to get the attention that ex-muslims receive but its a non-issue in hinduism. i m an atheist but i go to temples, celebrate festivals , follow a veg diet
@@AA13494 same i’m also veg. I also like going to temples when possible.
even ex-m saahil is like that. ex-muslim spartacus also- they said they like the sanatan culture even tough they r atheists/agnostics.@@mdhvdubey
Precisely my status.
@@AA13494
Disliking a culture is not equivalent to being an atheist. Im a ex-muslim atheist & im fond of japanese, chinese and north eastern culture.
But however religious culture, including islamic and sanatani culture, are based on rulings and guidelines, of these ancient texts of religions, i.e., find their ground in religiousity. These things promote childhood indoctrination, subjective interpretations of ancient texts, devoid of science and rationality etc which in turn promote religious intolerance, tribalistic behaviour and kill rational & reasonal thinking.
Going to temples, enjoying festivals are all about enjoyment and spending quality time with friends and family. I too enjoy Eid but I pretend to pray.
But engaging in actual religious activities such as praying to any god, idols, spirit, etc makes one a theistic individual. So, excusing it in the name of culture doesn't make that theistic individual an atheist. So the difference must be made here.
Edit: I have read stories of many ex-hindu atheists that have been discriminated a lot and received tons of scolding from the gurus and their own families & now they are hiding their identity. Belief and faith is rooted in this culture. So, saying ex-hindus have it easy is mistaken. Ex-muslims have it extremely tough but I wont say the ex-hindus are having a jolly time.
To all the exmuslims,hindus,jain,sikhs,Christians out there, don't worry you are not alone in this.
We are all in this together, let's overcome our prejudices against each other and prevail as kind humans.
Hear hear! ❤
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Everyone in India needs to unite and fight against Radicals - radical Muslims, radical Hindus, radical Leftists, radical Christians, radical Nationalists, radical Communists, radical Separatists, Corrupt politicians & Bureaucracy etc. Only then can India moves towards a true path of peace and prosperity for most of its inhabitants.
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I'm exmuslim but bro you need education .
A free press, an independent judiciary, a well-functioning electoral system and the right to information are crucial to preventing crony capitalism.
Arif should make videos in English as he have good vocabulary and a decent accent
Proud to be Ex Muslim from WB
I understand that you're ex Muslim, but why is your name sachin Kumar
@@nafishy because i converted to hinduism
@@ExmuslimSahid77 so one illogical religion to another illogical one? No improvement whatsoever
@@nafishy i consider it is your point of view
@@nafishyTry to learn Islam instead of following it as your parents religion, Then conclude to a decision to leave it, Unlucky you
Exhindu can live openly. But millions of exmuslims have to hide. Tells everything. 😊
@@user-mc5ih5oe8hchudan allah the r@pped 6 yr old aisha ❤
@@user-mc5ih5oe8h its a general observation
@@user-mc5ih5oe8h Apart from hilarious ad hominems you comment is wack.
@@user-mc5ih5oe8h those laughing emojis confirm you're an insecure incel
@user-mc5ih5oe8hData is there in their book bro go and read 😂😂
respect to him for being ex commmunist from kerala 👍💥💥
When you dont know what communism means and thinks its same as ussr
@@flowerinthewild-x5u I never compared communism as ussr ..
Communism is always a failure ... Whole world knows the loopholes behind this ... Especially for developing for a developing countries
@@flowerinthewild-x5uyou want to create a classless society by controlling the means of production right? What if someone doesn't give up their means of production? What if someone openly criticizes communism in a communist country? And how do you intend to seize the means of production if people don't vote you to majority in loksabha elections?
@@lookintoit4537 (1) well yeah thats somewhat the idea but I dont want to control the means of production I would like everyone to be able to control the means of production together and having a democratic workplace. (2) same answer as what if a slave plantation owner doesn't give up his plantation, even capitalist liberal democracy uses force to get hold of the means of production from feudalism or monarchy, if we dont take over means of production from those who exploit us we would be slaves even today (3) nothing, communist countries don't exist. (4) in my view elections are not likely to bring socialism or communism just like elections did not get India independence, how do you change the system? Well there are many opinions on that, a mass movement of worker non cooperation can be one which makes sense to me currently, communism is not one single ideology, there are people who suggest one method and people who suggest another, the bottom line is the aspiration for a classless society, methods are always a question like in every other political idea
@@flowerinthewild-x5u You don't lived in a communist state. We Keralites are living in it. You are the one that don't know what is communism and why don't it work.
Ex-musim, Ex-homeopath, Ex-communist.......Bhakths gonna have a tough time judging this guy........🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤭
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Actually they did think he's their ally and invited him to one of their sessions for a speech hoping he'll talk against Islam. Let's just say they'll probably not call him back again any time soon 😂
@@r_manu When? And Where?
@@suhashg8664 th-cam.com/video/xj9j1vPxyTE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=eqaGYEBCwtnmOtYV
I don't know who are Bhakts?
I'm also exmuslim .
Exhindu athiest 😚😚 me too
@KailashMahawar05 acchi bat hai
@@alphaman9036 okey that's good .
So what call yours lf murtad
@@anonymes0101land
I'm a proud ex-hindu
Now I'm a free human being 😊
Charvak or Ajvika sect? Atheist can be Hindu too
How does that work? Do I believe that the Hindu gods exist or not? 😅
@@rishinarayan7663you can believe Hindu Gods don't exist, there's no karma, rebirth. Only materialistic things matter and present life matters. Hinduism doesn't have one book one God system. You have the freedom to believe what you feel is right. Beliefs and practices that originated in Indian subcontinent is called as Hinduism, there are polytheists, monotheists and sects that reject vedas.
Yeah I think when people are claiming to be atheists here, they are saying that their beliefs and actions are based on science and rational thinking, and not derived from the ideas originated from Indian subcontinent (as you defined it) . So let them be atheists in peace? 😅
@@rishinarayan7663being a Hindu is a civilizational identity not a religious one. Calling themselves ex Hindu without understanding it's true meaning is what I fear. They can call themselves whatever they feel comfortable though.
Big shout out to all the ex Muslims 🎉
Ex muslim, ex homeopath and ex communist. Wow this guy was truly effed up
It's a great interview!! Thanks for letting us know about Arif!!
I was born a human, family and society told me i am a hindu when i grew up and started understanding language.
I had to do ghar-wapasi to become a human again 😊
isro chief is not human because he believes in hindu gods?🤔
@@GyanTvAmit he is a hindu, if u ask him he will say he was born hindu.
Just how there is no other species which is hindu, muslim etc, i was not either.
@@GyanTvAmit i think i should elaborate more else my statement can be misrepresented.
When we are born, we are nameless, only as an individual. Due to the limitations of language which requires nouns for identification we are given a name(noun).
Even with a different noun it will be same individual.
But religion and its ideology is shaped by people and their views who are around us. Its not innate from birth nor is it necessary like a name which serves a purpose of identification.
We never took birth as hindu muslim etc. We were told as we grew up.
@@GyanTvAmitbelief system and "being" doesn't go hand in hand. What is "born Hindu"? Is there a nano chip of hinduism we bring from "heaven" in our DNA? 😂😂😂 That's why it calls "human BEING" and NOT "Hindu being" smh🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
You now that athiesm is accepted in Hinduism, right? unlike abrahamic religions. Read charvaka please. One can also identifies as athiest hindu.
This was amazing.
Wow man! Respect! You both are doing great❤
Makes me happy that im not alone in this❤
nice. finally people are talking about exmuslims.
when will pwople talk about hindu nazi
@@franzka9824 Nothing can be hindu and nazi at the same time.
Have been living as an Atheist (ex-Hindu) since the past 3 years. I feel so liberated and free now. I finally realized that mankind doesn't needs religion or gods for whatsoever reason.
Yes. People need to know we are good enough.
@@Jzy332lmao actually they contribute nothing other than forming eco chambers like r/librandus where they rant day and night.
But hinduism is no religion
liberated from what?? what kind of shackles/restricitions did it put on u?? r u from jai bhim army?? asked u wear a burkha, let yr husband hv 4 wives, multiple kids, no right to divorce, promoted wife beating, stooped u from being frnds with a kaafir, pray 5 times, pay zakat.
@@AA13494cry😂
It is such fun listening to Arif,though I agree that economies are much more complicated than capitalism and socialism but his clarity about religion and economics is 1st class,Keep up the good work
Every religion is bad but Islam is worst, Communism is worst, Extreme Right and Extreme left both are bad please stay in the middle. Please bring multiple choice voting system for common people. thanks 😊
Please check out:
1) SecondThought
2) hasimalrah2105
3) democracyatwork
4) Viki1999
I'm sure you'll get a good understanding of why communism is better :)
Ur absolutely correct
Thanks guys. What an incredible conversation and insight into ex Muslim perspective. I wish I knew Malayalam to so as to follow Arif's channel.
35:40 Reason why homeopath or alternative medicine flourishes. 👏👏
His voice is so soothing. Good episode 👍
Proud Ex-Muslim from Kerala ❤️
2:23:35. Pranav you might now be knowing that marriage laws in india are based on religion. So Muslim marriage law has provisions wherein one party leaves Islam they cannot seek for Custody of the children. Hence you're having this confusion as to why Arif is not able to see his children
That's sad, but can't he apply for visiting rights through some standard civil law?
3:21 ARIF I agree with a lot of your points except on your thoughts on political economy. There is a lot to unpack here but something you said about EVs cannot be over looked. So I will just address that. Lakhs of crore are spend subsiding EV technology, not just in india around the world. So that's a public expenditure and the profit again goes to the company. 3:21:05
Its a mix of capitalism and socialism with regulations.
@@TJ-kv3fv there is no mix. It's brutal cut throat capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich.
You need to strike balance. The most basic example is comparing America with western Europe. Scandinavian and Nordic nations take a lot of tax (more than 60%) and have a lot of socialist policies. The standard of living and social security is a lot better over there compared to America where healthcare is soo terrible that they charge for holding the baby after guving birth. Something like normal CT scan cost a fortune and let's not even talk about their gun lobby and school systems. Their skyscrapers in New York are all empty while homeless people are all over the place. Veterans are treated like sh**.
arif hussain 😂😂😂
he was a very famouse atheist from kerala but he was destroyed miserably in the very first debate he ever had with shuhaib haithami. some muslim imam no one knew about.
haithami destroyed arif so much no one from kerala respects him anymore.
and science is dope spends 4 hours on him. poor pranav, giving him another life line in english.
this is why these atheists never do a debate, always monologue only 😅.
may be that's why people like zakir naik always asks them for a debate. and atheist always run away.
poor arif opted for debate, and got destroyed.😅
Wow, Amazing Conversation!
3:37:20 Arif Bro Unbelievable. So according to you when jio cuts prices for that its capitalism and when become the only company in the market by distroying competetion thats soscialism. It feels like you are just lebeling everything you like as capitalism ans what you dislike as socialism 3:37:20
That is his pattern. Like he said earlier he had Islam vs the World attitude, Homeopathy vs the World and Communism vs the World. And now it is Capitalism vs Socialism. He can only think in binary. It is some kind of deficiency obviously
Exactly he has no idea about socialism or communism, he views on religion are well researched but on politics he has no idea
arif hussain 😂😂😂
he was a very famouse atheist from kerala but he was destroyed miserably in the very first debate he ever had with shuhaib haithami. some muslim imam no one knew about.
haithami destroyed arif so much no one from kerala respects him anymore.
and science is dope spends 4 hours on him. poor pranav, giving him another life line in english.
this is why these atheists never do a debate, always monologue only 😅.
may be that's why people like zakir naik always asks them for a debate. and atheist always run away.
poor arif opted for debate, and got destroyed.😅
Man u r really crying...😂😂@@mshamilna
@@PAshish-dh5fk crying for what bro..?
Well done Arif. 👏👏
Excellent podcast, Pranav. I have one point to make. Branding oneself as an ex-communist should give off red flags about the person's legitimacy on the subject. Unlike the other-isms, communism is not a group one can be part of. Hence, one cannot leave because there is no way to join. I guess one could become a member of CPI and leave. That would make that person an ex-CPI member. I don't wanna dissect all of Arif's arguments here, but I broadly contend that his ideas on political economy and the state are not fully formed.
Crucially, he never stated exactly what made him become an "ex-communist." He moved on to say there were entities like Stalin, Mao, and North Korea, so he became disenfranchised. It's unfortunate to hear this because this is a common way for the bourgeoisie to disregard a layered political ideology. The simple response is, Stalin, etc., as opposed to what? The US war machinery, bombs dropped on Hiroshima, Bengal famine, the absolute decimation of many African states? If we start counting the bodies, capitalism's numbers will stretch around our solar system. But that is a juvenile way to assess the core of a political ideology and proves that our man didn't do his homework on the topic. He has thoughts and found ways to justify it without dissecting the core of socialism or communism. So, when he says he is a socialist now, or whatever, is laughable because I can tell that he doesn't fully grasp the tenets of that ideology either.
Arif also glossed over his reading of Capital and didn't articulate what about the text made him disagree with it. Finally, I just wanna say that using a Marxist core text to discredit communism is a shallow reading of political economy/sociology. But oh well! People have opinions, I guess. I just don't get why folks fear critiquing capitalism so much. It gives us so much perspective on our current existence and highlights power imbalances in our interaction with this system. Instead, we come up with elaborate ways to look the other way.
exactly, his arguments against communism are the usual points repeated by bourgeois ideologists everyday.
Name a country where socialism worked ?
I'm lazy but I was thinking this and you articulated it so well. So in summary, "This"
@@Rey_th7 name a country where capitalism worked?
It's about learning from experience. It doesn't mean that we should start treating Das Kapital as the Bible.
@@Rey_th7 Democratic Socialism has been successfully practiced in Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland where capitalism is thriving and people have a high quality of life, they are also one of the wealthiest countries. Many countries adopted corrective Socialism like Vietnam. Socialist references can also be found in the constitutions of India, Sri Lanka, Portugese, Bangladesh, Korea, Guyana, Nicaragua (the list is longer but I can only recall these many).
Brilliant man❤
back fired on pranav. 😂 Man man he was expecting the opposite answers but salute to this guy who answered on point.
wonderful wonderful interview ❤❤❤❤
Request him to make his podcasts with English subtitles
Do you have difficulty in understanding the Indian English accent?
@@Tirth-Patel yah at times, but maybe by listening to him more it will be more clear
@@noobmaster_0075 Yes. I also earlier had this problem it went away as I started watching more Indian TH-camrs who make English videos.
@@Tirth-Patel sometimes because i did go to the uk for time.
Due to rational thinking I started to become atheist but after watching this conversation my faith in Hinduism and in Hindurashtra has increased 100x
Arif is saying Islamic faith is major problem but not the Muslim. He conveniently forgetting that Muslim man is blind follower of Islam and I am 100% sure that 99% of Muslim people in India will not understand that Arif is saying and they will never accept it, thats why we need leadership like Yogi Adityanath, Modiji, Sangh to fight with Islamic extremist.
Some people are proudly declaring themselves as Ex-Hindu but for me, I will become Ex-Hindu the day last Muslim in India becomes Ex-Muslim.
Jai Hind.
I can't believe that's your conclusion. What kind of rational thinking have you done, I wonder.
The answer to counter Islam is not Hinduism
So you need hindu extremists against the muslim ones 😂.....
bro, giving podcast in cozy room will never penetrate in Muslim mases considering level of education and brain washing
there is lot of islamic extremism going on on the grassroots. I live in Mumbai i have seen it upclose. historically we have saved our lives being united with Hinduism. same is case with the nation.
being Rationalist I know that GOD does not exist as a superbeing or even that mythology stories are not real historically accurate.
In short my definition for Hinduism is Nationalism as it was intended by many freedom fighters (I have read Swami Vivekananda) to unite the youth nation-wide. Islam will always be anti nationalist and threat to India/Hindustan and Hinduism will always be counter to islamic extremism.
There are lot to talk, I wish one day I can talk with you when you are open for discussion with common man of India. Thanks for the reply.
From being an atheist to hindurashatra.
What kind of rational thinking is that😂
everything depends on how you define and execute something. I have stated my definition. you need to read more kid, knowledge isn't served in shorts.
Many things here are explainable in sanatan as a exmuslim myself i respect atheist and agnostic beliefs but as i myself has gone through that phase of atheiest then agnostic then becoming hindu i highly recommend u to read bhagavat geeta to get answers
*11 thousand* views for a 4 hour video in 2 days??!!! That's an impressive number!
3:50:10 makingvit harder for me to be quite Arif bro. Covid vaccines are an excellent example for how profit motive companies benefit from human suffering. The private companies in US were subsidied by their gov to produce these vaccines, gov gave funds, resources and allowed them to use patents held by gov. When it came to selling the vaccine the companies held all the profit. So the risk of vaccine development was socialized but the profits were privatized. Quick word about china and russia , atleast they gave vaccines for free to many poor countries. China 100 free , russia 50% free.
He knows nothing. He's giving dumb arguments against communism. Extremely elementry and easily refutable like "any one can become a billionaire". The question is "do we need billionaires?" . Billionaires exploit people. Look at pepsi destroying health and doing unethical marketing and spreading misinformation about it not being unhealthy. Look at Fast fashion brands overproducing clothes (using crazy amount of water) and then dumping them in developing nations. Look at South korea. Its called samsung republic. Samsung is soo shady over there and involved in mistreatment of soo many people. They face no consequences.
As an interviewer, its your job to do the research. Could have pushed him harder on CAA-NRC.
What about that?
It's a podcast not an interview
First know difference between a podcast and a interview 👍..
@@au29Kuchh bhi?!
Even if it's called a podcast, it's in the format of an interview. Why can't a podcast be an interview?
BTW, the meaning of podcast has changed. It used to be just audio (monologue or dialogue), not video, for iPod.
Yes, he is wrong about CAA-NRC. He doesn't see politics in anything. That's what's wrong about him.
Not everyone was shouting Islamic slogans during the protests. Many Hindus participated. Why does Arif think they are all just 'wokes and fools'. Do your think celebrities in Delhi were influenced by PFI? Do you think JNU students, mostly Hindus, get influenced so easily by PFI propaganda.
What he explained was CAA (allowing oppressed non-Muslims from other countries). What about NRC? That's designed to trouble Indian citizens. It's not for asylum seekers.
This guy is brilliant Principled, wish he starts his youtube in English also
Fantastic conversation as usual! Would love to see a deep dive video on Charvak and other evidence oriented philosophies from ancient India. A lot of RW channels have appropriated that philosophy and that is the reason it is difficult to find authentic information about such ideas, especially on yt.
Why dont arif hussain podcast his shows in english?
He prefers Malayalam
@@scienceisdope range will be limited.
He have good accent and vocabulary he should do it
@@INDIANATHEIST526i think he also has some english videos but mainly he is relavent in malayalam channel debates and all so to cater that viewrs he use malayalam
I guess he's being malayali and knows the muslims there and others too can speak with relevancy. So Malayalam is more than enough.
If he speaks for everyone(in english), he must've very well known abt it beforehand otherwise he would be tagged as being IRRELEVANT, IGNORANT.
But to keep track of Kerala, his perspective in english would be meaningful.
I'm an atheist Hindu, hopefully we would recognise one day that all this "holy" books are in the end folk tales and work of imagination.
It's good to remember them as it's an important part of our culture but remember to not let them becomes the chains on our mind. 😊
I am also athiest hindu but still i go to temple as it does not harm me.
But i also follow some philosophy specially vedant. I would recommend you to read the same.
@@theplmotivationofficialif you have read vedanta
What are you atheist on first case?
Atheist Hindu?? 😅
As mentioned in another comment:
"Hindu Atheist"
- When you want to bash all religions except Hinduism.
@@arpitkumar2981facts.
They are Hindu, just wanna call themselves Atheist for some reason.
The way he described kashmir files and Kerala Story without taking the political scenario of the country where 'muslims' are being labelled as 'ohers' and 'trouble makers' into account is simply pathetic..
If you can't share a single clear sentence regarding the right wing propoganda conveyed through these movies but you can casually talk about the innate exaggeration found inside "movies", then, sorry to say, but you are a shame!!
Kudos to pranav for mentioning 'propaganda', atleast in that question.
yah I feel the same i mean we can see what these hatred movies are trying to do
Asking genuinely, what do you think is propaganda or exaggeration in the movie? I haven't watched the movie myself
@@pranavmarla In that case, shouldn't you watch those films first?
@@naved6095yes, and I think he was totally right to emphasize on the importance of accepting the factual nature of reality, in the case of genocide and terrorism.
But the question by pranav was clearly pointing towards the propaganda part of these movies. And the way he responded to that aspect was more or less similar to How a diplomatic bjp spokperson would uphold the creator's imaginary wisdoms and dramatic nature of movies. (Though these movies are labelled as Super factual.)
@@Ashir_karuna_dayabro ik it was wrong but i think it's due to his muslim background and so most times he is biased for the things which are against Muslims (ik malayalam have seen his videos) in most muslim related things he is biased for the opposite side even though he don't support any religion
1:55 to 2:00
Truly disappointed with Pranav,
There was no mention of NRC along with CAA which basically has caused chaos among people.
CAA was not the only reason it's CAA+NRC.
So what 😂
Very evident that there are crony capitalists in India which proves free market system has failed. Now when you say this many pro-capitalists get paranoid and point at Lenin, Stalin, Mao. Arif is also the same. In what way Modi backed Adani and Ambani are less monsters than a Stalin or a Mao? The trickle down mechanism is also not working as we inequality has increased than ever before. Also no one addresses why only North India Banias are the only major players. Isn't it clear their caste hegemony is still carrying. In no way India is a fair market. Its casteist crony market.
Loved the way how the guest answered your question about kashmir files and kerela story
Thank you for inculcating the vast knowledge of Lord Dinkans religion 👏🏽👏🏽
It was a great interview. As a supporter of CAA, I would like to suggest Pranav to go through the bill and get more clarity on the issue. Even though the guest tried to correct Pranav on this, he did not explain it properly. CAA does not make it more difficult for Muslims to get Indian citizenship. They qualify for applying for citizenship if they are living in India for more than 11 years. It just makes it easier for minorities from 3 specefic countries - Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan to qualify for Indian citizenship. It's a law that in no way affects any Muslim in India citizen or non-citizen.
The problem is not CAA but NRC. A combination of the two gives away the political intentions. Please explain what's not wrong about NRC?
Discriminating on the basis of religion is a gateway to India becoming a Hindu theocracy.
@@myhonestcomments NRC was in discussions. But when CAA was passed not even a draft a of NRC was ready. It's still not ready. So how can anyone explain what's wrong with it? Opponents were chasing a ghost. And in their paranoia they ended up negatively affecting even the people who genuinely needed help through CAA.
@@sandytatham3592 This is called fear mongering. If this small X happens then it would lead to this big Y. What you see as discrimination based on religion, I see as a law that helps out those who are persecuted. If CAA is discrimination based on religion then I can count many things in India that already discriminate against you based on your religious identity. Why do we have minorities affairs ministry? Why do we have special concessions and benefits for religious minorities? Why do we have reservations based on caste identity? All these are called "reasonable classification" and not "discrimination". People turned paranoid because it was BJP that passed this law. If Congress had passed the same law, it would not even be in discussion.
@@vibhavdeshpande8196 : Call it what you like, but that doesn't change the fact that a "secular democracy" should NEVER discriminate on the basis of religion. Stop putting religion on any identification documents. Stop using religion as a device for division. Discrimination should be on economic status, or for things such as disabilities, but definitely NOT religion. I would call out any political party that passed a law specifically discriminating on religious beliefs.
1:54:00 was listening him carefully and agreed with most of the points until this point,,it seems like he is completely unaware about the political scenario of the country... listen to everybody but don't trust anyone blindly......I am also a so called muslim atheist since childhood when this word wasn't cool ..and didn't have to read or listen to someone to become an atheist this is a common sense....
What wrong did he say
arif hussain 😂😂😂
he was a very famouse atheist from kerala but he was destroyed miserably in the very first debate he ever had with shuhaib haithami. some muslim imam no one knew about.
haithami destroyed arif so much no one from kerala respects him anymore.
and science is dope spends 4 hours on him. poor pranav, giving him another life line in english.
this is why these atheists never do a debate, always monologue only 😅.
may be that's why people like zakir naik always asks them for a debate. and atheist always run away.
poor arif opted for debate, and got destroyed.😅
3:57:23 CSR funds are not regulated properly. Secondly its left to the companies to decide what to spend where to spend. 3rd it lacks transparency. 4y companies can and are spending CSR funds on activities that inc their profits. It has bwcome just another part of their marketing budget, pr fund. Better way would be for the gov to tax company profits or impose a minimum wage law in India.
To all individuals who identify as former Muslims, I urge you not to blindly adhere to Islam solely because it was your parents' religion. Take the initiative to study and understand it for yourself. Many of you may be educated or not well-educated, and your decision to leave the faith may have been influenced by various factors, often related to scientific understanding. However, I want to share that what challenged my faith was the concept of human biological evolution. Rather than letting this shake my beliefs, I dedicated considerable time to researching and gathering information from both scientific and Islamic perspectives. Through this process, I am grateful to say that I reaffirmed my faith even stronger than before. As humans, we possess the remarkable ability to question our existence and surroundings, and it is essential for us to seek answers independently, rather than succumbing to external influences. Those who have left the true faith will, indeed, be in a regrettable position, even more than those who have never even tried to understand or never sought the truth which are disbelievers. Ultimately, those who have abandoned Islam may find themselves facing the most profound regret on the Day of Judgment. InshaAllah, may Allah be praised.
Khadeeja was a strong independant woman. She didn't need the protection of a man like Quran says!
Bro hassanshoaib you are damn GOON, living for 70 to 90 years with sufferings just because of ensured eternity. Isn't it best not to be born in this beautiful world .
Dear Mr. Pranav & Mr. Arif,
Can't we file a Court case to declare Homeopathy as not backed by Science and therefore the practioners should not be called Doctors and no Colleges or Degrees.
We can't ban it but can strip it off institutional and governmental support.
So socialism leads to poverty and capitalism leads to wealth (?) The level of political analysis is just depressing
Oh man, you said it..
I don't know whether he has any idea regarding the way capitalism makes the rich richer and keeps the poor mostly poor.
as a person with basic understanding of economics, Listening to what he was saying is "just depressing"
@@Ashir_karuna_dayaNot really… what makes the rich richer and the poor poorer is not capitalism, but unwanted regulation. Regulations are the cause of permanent monopolies, too. In a perfectly free market where competition is preserved, monopolies cannot sustain for long. Innovative disruptions can kill monopolies.
@@niroshanvenkateshwaran Where, pray, has this mythical beast this 'perfectly free market' ever existed besides the land of fantasies?
@@gauravtejpal8901that's why there are anti trust laws. In India we have competition commission of India which tried to regulate monopolies and break them to increase competition.
@@yashashsgowda6662Has it been ever successful let alone ADANI & AMBANI?
I'm Ex-Hindu, proud to my Ex-Muslim brother. Rationalism and Logic will triumph over Religion
His idea of capitalism is more idealistic than practical.
Socialism has it's flaws but capitalism is at it's practical worst.
Capitalism is supposed to lead to better competition etc... However it leads to chokepoints, monopolies and monopsonies that when entrenched with politics is the ideal controlling tool to ensure your business can never die out.
agreed... us anti-capitalists are not really saying "bring communism ho ho". We just want discussions to happen and people to understand why capitalism as it is right now is worrying...
What do you mean capitalist is at its worst? There are far worse forms of economic systems and they all have failed. Capitalist is and foe a long time will be the best system there is.
@@tathagatquandaliusganesh1082 Capitalism has lead to a hourglass structure whereby we have oligopolies and oligopsonies, such that the control remains under the hand of capitalist.
In fact in 1960s Henry Ford wanted to share some his Company profits to his employees for their hardwork, which was after all the salaries and bonuses were paid for. He was sued by his own shareholders where the court sided with the shareholders that the goal of the company and the BOD is the maximize the wealth of the Shareholder.
Capitalist society always leads to monopolies and monopsonies, it is always governmental and union interferences that makes capitalist pay more.
Wages have been stagnant since 2000s mate. Demand and supply right? It's very easy to manipulate that especially when economy goes into recession.
In fact Capitalists are more than happy to falsely promote their products or create industries that don't need to be created by creating absurd demand and constricting supply. Diamond jewelry industry is a literal proof.
Planned Obsolescence another one of Capitalism's boon making products more useless just so they can be sold more. Capitalism by itself is a disaster.
It has only survived because of heavy government regulations and legal proceedings.
Hell, Kingfisher's CEO ran away and Government had to take control of the organisation just so that employees don't become unemployed, tax payer money used to pay for employees. Capitalism has no way to check for these issues.
Bank bailouts, Company restructuring plans etc etc. A lot of these socialistic bebefits are provided to companies who get so big they influence GDP of a country. So yea, Capitalism literally is at it's practical worst
Oh ok just one question, why aren't there any socialist nations(excluding authoritarian ones) that have survived yet? I mean Soviet Union collapsed and so many others aswell while China and Vietnam shifted to capitalist market economy? Capitalism maybe unethical but socialism isn't even sustainable. In my opinion, the most successful socialist experiment were the kibbutzim from israel but even they got privatized into capitalism.
Ogliopolies don't form because it is inherent in capitalism but because the government encourages it with their interventionist policies .
I really really hope this man learns Hindi and tell the world his thought, A rational man!! A rational man, indeed
This is exactly what I keep thinking!
Interesting thoughts on religion, science and everything else. But I think the CAA question was incomplete .....CAA was not a problem but the combination of CAA and NRC might be a problem. So, this topic needs more discussion
Swara Bhaskar ko sunna band karde. She is just a Political Prostitute of the communists.
Nrc required to throw out the illigal immigrants. And most of them will be Muslim because they come from Muslim majority country.
Dude said politician should speak about islam and not muslim 😂😂, nupur sharma did that, she just said what was written in ur book but look what happened 😂
When a huge number of us start speaking 🔊 the truth, we cannot be shut down or intimidated🎉
Great podcast ❤❤❤
All athiest zindabaad x hindu x muslim x sikh
2:55:10 If I remember correctly, the number never said that it was 32k recruitments from Kerala. Of course, in that context, it sounded like that (the old "Ashwathama (the elephant)" thing?), but I watched the movie, and it didn't assert that the 32k figure was from Kerala (or even India) alone
His points on communism are laughable to say the least, and all the arguments have been debunked time and time again.
Great Talk!! 👏🏼👏🏼👍
The podcast was great there were some great insights from both of you but I felt there was less rebuttal from Pranav when the topic went from homeopath to communism because the subject went to ideology and politics which I felt Pranav tried to do his bit but wasn't challenging enough due to limited knowledge from his expertise. For Eg when he was talking about CAA-NRC and communism and capitalism it wasn't Pranav's expertise, at this place someone like Meghnad could have given great points and rebuttals between the two of them would be great to watch. But hats off to Pranav for such a great-length podcast wishing to see much like this content even in future.
We'll get there. Hopefully.
Communism is just a superstition..
Great podcast
Why?
@@akashvalsan6609 why not
@@akashvalsan6609 did you watch the podcast?
Interesting podcast. I wish I knew Malayalam to listen to his podcasts. 😅😅
I hope your channel always stays on YT. I want to financially support your channel when i get a job. Till now i have been sharing your videos with my family who are hardcore hindus 😅. I hope your videos make them be little skeptical about their own faith.
Also, i request Arif to make videos in English or Hindi if possible bc north India needs some rationality.
This is just infuriating. Arif brings forth so many logical fallacies in his discussion of capitalism, and keeps dodging definitions. Makes you wonder whether he's arguing in good faith...and whether he has personal stakes in defending capitalism. I mean, is he a businessman? No businessman would want socialism lol.
Literally EVERY major power had, and still has, prison labour. Saying the USSR was the only one that did, is an explicit lie. In fact the USSR was also one of the first to shut down their prison system (the gulag). This stuff is eo easily googleable but people insist on repeating capitalist dogma like it's a religion
Yeah, if only pranav objected more. It felt kinda like a beer biceps podcast, he rarely asked deep questions
One of few people who criticise every relegion shortcomings equally
I request Arif to make content in English as well
If you are here for only discussions on atheism ..skip to 1:20:00
What pseudo medicine
55 year 9 year sad 😢
😂 you are a hindu in which child marriage is full of.
@@None2odoes whataboutism make what your prophet did right ?
@@humanrace6224read his name you can't expect anything better from him
Maan this one huge ❤
Capitalism is unequal sharing of prosperity and Socialism is equal sharing of misery.
1960 - 90 tak socialist tha india dekh kya ghatiya halat hui
I'm pretty sure you don't know the problem is authoritarianism
@@AdolfRizzler41nahin tha
@@MiserableMuonsocialism and authoritarianism are two different things
@@MiserableMuon communism and socialism me dictatorship hi hoti hai eg Cuba , north korea ,china , russia
Free market is all about zero regulations from government. They free market argue that their shouldn't be any regulations from government. Monopoly is created even after regulations.
Remove ur title😂
How monopoly can be created even after regulations? Enlighten me.
i disagree heavily only with the hijab thing, if turbans can be allowed in uniform then why npt hijab? both are headcovers..
You muslim?
100% agreed ,
Because hijabs are a sign of misogynist oppression
Turban doesn't cover the face.
@@kshitizgaur9181
Lol Also hijab doesn't cover face
There is huge difference between hijab and naqab/burkha......
...and no one want burkha/Naqab to be allowed in school college university
Arif you absolute correct
Proud to be ex Hindu 😌
Stupid ! There is no such thing as Ex Hindu. You can be an atheist but not ex hindu.
God is defined as Sat Chit Anand, which means infinite existence, infinite knowledge, and infinite bliss. So how can anyone for that matter be ex hindu😊
@@rajaninambiar6444God word has a meaning I don't want infinite word to be God infinite means infinite
Am also ex Hindu
Ask Mufti Yasir Nadeem question on islam !
If you have any geniune doubt
This was a tight slap on Pranav 😂 when he said Islam is like cyanide and that sangh parivar has changed. He also defended kashmir files and kerala stories.
Yes pseudo liberals, take notes from this guy. He’s the true definition of a liberal who values freedom of speech and expression and has guts to call out bad things of Islam.
Well Some ex muslims are more liberal than some so called atheists.
I really wanted you both to do a show together but 4 hours is far beyond my view time.
Damn bro reading the comment from last 10 minutes
And at this point everyone is a Ex Muslim 😂😂😂
"Jhoot bolo....ek limit mein"
Kerela became safe because they got used to religious criticism and got desensitized, but rushdie got attacked in usa which i think is even more desensitized. But crazies are crazies and sane people are putting targets on people whose views they disagree with.
If gathering wealth is the only way to live then capitalism is good, just as greed is good. It's also good if you want more and quickly. Again greed and impatience.
Socialism seems to be based on the thought that comfortable survival is enough, without the need to become billionaires.
If there was no capitalism in the world then possibly the technological progress of humanity may not have been this fast. However, there would also be less greed and crimes.
So, there are pros and cons of each. Humanity would be happier if socialism was the only way. Socialism is not happy because capitalism exists.
If the government has to interfere for ensuring competition then how is it a free market?
Why give communist examples for socialism? Isn't there democratic socialism? Arif is using the Marxist definition of socialism.
Can you post a highlights of this video, this is 4 hr long.
His understanding about socialism communism and capitalism is horribly wrong at multiple level.
Tell what is is socialism?
Care to explain how?...
please elaborate
There was a quote by a famous economist. A socialist who understood economics would never be socialist. I was a socialist once but now I am not.
@@lesner66Socialism by definition is production of and by the workforce.
We live in a capitalistic economy therefore it is painfully obvious that socialism cannot work when we are having capitalistic tendencies.
Socialism needs a different ground up model to work.
Capitalism itself is practically flawed, it has now created oligosonies and oligopolies which has literally made sure that we have garbage philosophies within the economy such as "Planned Obsolescence" thanks to capitalists who wanted to produce more.
Sufi saint Sarmad Kashani who was killed by Aurangzeb for reciting half kalima was actually atheist. Sarmad was accused and convicted of atheism and unorthodox religious practice. Aurangzeb ordered his Ulema to ask Sarmad why he repeated only "There is no God", and ordered him to recite the second part, "but Allah".[17] To that he replied that "I am still absorbed with the negative part. Why should I tell a lie?" Thus he sealed his death sentence.
Oh come on, do some Homework before you ask questions related to Caa. It is irritating when you I donot know the exact details🤧. We donot want another Ranbir....
5:33) Those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and go about the earth spreading mischief55 -indeed their recompense is that they either be done to death, or be crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off from the opposite sides or be banished from the landSuch shall be their degradation in this world; and a mighty chastisement lies in store for them in the World to Come (5:34) except for those who repent before you have overpowered them..
Yes take a single verse out of context to rile the uneducated audience. I would love to see him put forth his topics in front of an actual educated muslim scholae
I too would like to call myself spiritual rather than attached to one religion. To seek God you need to have godliness, humanity the acceptance of the fact that happiness lies in harmony and co existence
Have watched a few parts of the interview so far and am not impressed with the guest, atleast I'm finding his views to be pretty naive, apathetic & ignorant especially regarding topics like propaganda & the dissemination of hate, communism and socialism etc. Honestly expect such an attitude from someone much younger & one who is quite uninformed or perhaps living in a bubble and not from someone like him. Have seen this kind of attitude though in a number of individuals who are still trying to identify their core values or who feel like they've finally discovered the ultimate truth and will now stick to & defend it with almost a delusional kind of passion at virtually any cost, like the guest choosing to turn a blind eye to the oppression of his own community (or former community) even though that's a separate issue from the problems & ills that were present in the religion he abandoned, similarly I've also seen a few Indian content creators from good/otherwise sane channels going on to bash veganism because they're angry at the cow vigilantism taking place in our country or how vegetarianism is being forced upon them (again, they're two different issues, one can choose to look at both the issues from a rational as well as an empathy based perspective rather than just going on to unnecessarily and illogically bash one in order to show a higher level of support for the other). Questioning everything also includes questioning one's own thoughts, beliefs, ideas, biases and prejudices on a regular basis so that one can continue to keep on mentally growing & evolving. You did a good job though Pranav, so kudos to you.
Yeah. I agree.
Honestly so far, I am not against communism. But also knows that capitalism is inevitable.
People go full or nothing. Both extremes aren't helpful but cater to hatemongers either way. Only difference is that there's switch of sides and so is the audience.
I'm still a Muslim and not an Extemist one !! Guys can you allow me to join your round hugs too ?? 😊
The flaws in his jizya & caste arguments were laughable 😂 And not to mention,he said that he could become a suicide bomber😢 That's sad,his father didn't taught him islam and he ended up learning islam from bollywood & sanghis. Which is why he thought that way. I'm a muslim & my parents taught me islam properly & i'm from Bangladesh,so my school has subject on islam. Most people learn islam through reading books
You aren't a muslim if you aren't a extremist in today's term.
Please check some comprehensive arguments by Apostate Prophet, Zafar Heretic and partly Sahil and Adam seeker.
There are some very core issues w.r.t. to Izlm e.g.
- extreme fatal hatred towards polytheists and Jews
- death sentence for apostasy i.e. leaving ( like mafia )
- allowing sexual slaves ( disgusting under any circumstance )
*These can't be commandments of any true Higher Being*
Please confront the issues and evolve your understanding. Maybe then you'll see it for what it is i.e. a supremacist cult masquerading as a religion
yeah, another Capitalist with a different tags
Damn. You summed it up real short.
For people arguing in the comments section, let's be clear: an ex-Hindu is STILL A HINDU!
Charvaka or Atheist philosophy is one of the 6 schools of Hindu philosophy.
When someone doesn't believe in Gods & Goddesses, how can that same person believe in a religion? Aren't religions centred around Gods & Goddesses
@@Kaiku1995No this is the problem of people who think Hinduism is just a religion like Christianity and Islam
It's way of life
Hindu can be anyone even though he is performing Rituals or not
Either he bielve in one God or many God or he bielve in Krishna ,Shiva, Brahma, or philosophy of vedanta , etc
I know any religion and their rituals can't be perfect or scientifically accurate.
But In Hinduism you can easily criticise and make your own theory about world existence either it will be scientific or not
Not like Muslims who bielve in only Allah and other are kafir
And Christianity too
But after 16th century European society changed a lot
Initially churches criticise scientist or thier theory
So who think scientifically led to atheism
Christianity don't accept them .
But today you see those countries or people are leading in scientific research such as china,USA, Europe they are mostly atheist
They don't bielve in God
Non-vedic hindu. Because,charvakas are non-vedic schools of indian philosophy
@@sudhanshu6538 Hinduism is a polytheistic religion and it has many Gods. Atheism means to believe that there is no God at all. An atheist will believe that Lord Krishna/ Lord Vishnu/Lord Shiva and all Gods do not exist. It is Believing in no God. So if they don't believe in any God, how will they believe in a religion.
@@user-mc5ih5oe8h Yeah, Sanatan dharma and Indic school of thoughts are similar in the sense they had derived from India subcontinent.