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Yeah well, They kinda got lost there for a while I think, they were still good songwriters but that alternative rock/metal sound of some of their records I could have done without. I'm glad that they've returned to a more metal sound over the last couple of records. Cheers! 🤘
No Place For Disgrace is one of my all-time favourite albums. I don’t hear many people say that over the years. I think it’s a thrash metal classic personally.
This band deserves much more attention than it gets, so THANKS for this video! For me No Place...is their best album. And i would like to mention to everyone: GO TO SEE THEM LIVE, if you have the opportunity!.
I thank you, mr Ruthless for introducing me ( i think it was your 1986- ten-best-ranking video) to D.f.t.D. album. It is fantastic! I think it is one of the best debut albums ever, maybe the best. You are right, it has no fillers. Every song is a killer!
I have a soft spot for Cuatro because I got that CD for free by accident through Columbia House and that's how I discovered the band! Double Zero and Secret Square are probably my favorite tracks.
i must admit i haven’t heard a lot of their middle discography, but the last few have all been really solid and doomsday for the deceiver is easily a top 20 thrash album of all time. such an underrated band 🤘🏽
Interesting you mentioned Soundgarden during the Drift album, because Chris Cornell actually has writing credits on Cuatro. Anyway, my favorites from each of those albums, respectively, are Smoked Out and Wading Through the Darkness.
Yeah, despite them going down that mainstream direction they never fully became a mainstream band but perserverance is important, they are perhaps more respected today than ever before. Cheers!
Killer video as always! You should do a video of the worst to best Agent Steel albums (and maybe show where Mad Locust Rising would fit between those?)
I wholeheartedly agree with your choices. Amazingly, their last three were very well produced and thrashing for recent productions. Most bands’ production these days are too flat and heavily down-tuned.
Doomsday for the Deceiver is a classic, the only album to feature Jason Newsted before he join Metallica. Also, No Place for Disgrace and When The Storm Comes Down are amazing as well
I have to admit, I enjoy all of your videos and will now add Flotsam and Jetsam to my Spotify playlist. I am not all that familiar with them, but I know they are one of your favorite bands. The comment about the album "When the Storm Comes Down " about it sounding like "And Justice For All" except for the BASS was funny👍🤘
We're really close on this one! First saw F&J when they were to open for Celtic Frost in 1987 but CF canceled. I was immediately hooked. Saw them a year later and opened for King Diamond. Very memorable show.
I have the albums "Cuatro" and "Drift". I got them in the 90's. They did have to take a slight detour, like many others, to survive the grunge onslaught. I looked into buying "No Place For Disgrace", but all I can seem to find is the re-recorded issue. I'll have to look harder to find those first three albums with their original recordings. Thanks for the video, Ruthless!
My favorite album will always be High... Monster is my favorite song by them. I also lived in Phx AZ back then and got to visit their studio a few times when this album was being recorded. They played at the Mason Jar all the time back then. The parties at the garage/studios back in the late 90s where they practiced were awesome.
@@RuthlessMetalYT like most people, too lazy to type out any album title more than 3 words long But yeah, too many people overlooked that album. The production on the drums and bass wasn't perfect like NPFD, but the songs had better variety.
Never heard about this band, until they were mentioned alongside Carnivore in Peter Steele’s biography, a good band indeed. Found out about bands like Whiplash too and others because of that book
Har bara hört och ägt No Place For Disgrace, tyvärr hade jag den som pris i ett musik quizz 1992 som första pris. Andra pris var en kasstett med Enuff Z'nuff, hahaha. Trevlig och informativ video som vanligt! 🤘🥂
@@RuthlessMetalYT As is most other material from the 80s. I've actually listened to F&J's latest release, and modern millennium records are guilty pleasures of mine so there's usually stuff from today that I enjoy anyway, but man their latest album is definitely up there with some of the strongest in terms of new material of older bands.
"Suffer the masses" will always remind me of those last few years spent going to high school way waaaaaaaaay back in the day, lol. Listening to that song gives me a nostalgic vibe every time, it was the end of a truly incredible era as the 80's were coming to a close. The main riff on that track was so fckn HEAVY and I absolutely loved it... couldn't get enough. You could make it even heavier with the right sound system, listening to that one on a car stereo really brought out the low-end without sacrificing the crisp tones on the other side of the spectrum. We've got different tastes when it comes to mixing falsetto with thrash though, it just doesn't seem to mesh that well for me. It definitely has its place, but I've never cared much for falsetto vocals on a thrash track. That style is best suited for the King himself in my humble opinion... King Diamond will always wear that crown in my mind. Great video brother, keep 'em coming! 🤘🏻☠️🤘🏻
Very underrated band it sucks that people just know them mainly for Jason newstead and I think doomsday and the deceiver is Jason's best album he's played on
Don't have a ranking as I don't own all of their albums, but just like alot of the bands in my collection, my first is usually my favorite. In F&J, for me it's Cuatro. I love the dynamics on it, blending brutal speed and heaviness with the softer, quirkier bits, also kinda cozying up to grunge with a co-write with Chris Cornell (interesting collaboration). Just a great album in my opinion.
I saw this band live twice in 1999 at the Mason Jar in Phoenix AZ where I was living at the time. I listened to No Place For Disgrace 10 years prior when I was in the 8'th grade. I was really into the Cuatro album when I heard some of it on the Metal Shop radio show before it was even released.
Nice video. Doomsday is great, but no place is my favorite, maybe because I heard it first. I saw them live in Boston when they were supporting High. Great show. I haven't heard most of their 90's stuff, but I thought High was ok. Erik AK is awesome and very underrated. I never knew they went back to their thrash sound. I'm going to check out those more recent albums. One thing though......I did not like that re-recording of No Place for Disgrace. I'm not sure what the point of that was. It was just slower and Erik didn't really hit and sustain the high notes. \m/
Yeah the nineties stuff had a lot of ups and downs, check out cuatro if you can handle some melody. Yeah, re-recordings should be banned because it always turn out sounding worse than the original. Cheers! 🤘🏻
As much as I like their early albums and a couple of their most recent ones, I've never given the majority of their albums a listen for some reason. Also, keep up the good work my man! Cheers!
@@franciskocher200 That album is solid. 🦅🇬🇧 I have to listen more of their stuff before I can choose. I am going to see them play live in july in Rock in the City festival in Oulu.
Commenting as I'm watching, I'm VERY excited to check this video out. Flot is a band that has always been at the wrong place at the wrong time in terms of musical styles but they have a lot of absolutely incredible albums. Drift, to me, is the best groove metal album there is!
It seems they are always 1 trend behind. That is after the first three. They show up hear a cool new sound happening,record an lp of it then by the time they release it theres a new (nu) sound.
Hey Man, I really like your taste in thrash and I was wondering if you could make a Video about the best Thrash records released after 2000? Maybe a Top 20, or a Top 10 by the Oldschool Bands and a Top 10 by Bands of the new wave of thrash... I mean, there are not many "great" records that come to my mind, M-16 was pretty good, Power Trips "Nightmare Logic" is great and I liked "The Evolution of Chaos" by Heathen.... something along those lines. And another question, have you heard of Teutonic Thrashers "Pessimist" ? My friend is the guitarist there, good old War-themed teutonic thrash.. Check out the Song "Landsknecht"
@@RuthlessMetalYT yes, for me it is the same, but there have to be some decent albums in that endless amount of new thrash releases. Just like "The End of Chaos" on this list?
Playing marbles with Yahweh . From the one of the song descriptions of the album When the Storm Comes Down. Even though I am not crazy about When the Storm Comes Down, it remains the only Flotsam and Jetsam that I have ever bought new. I remember that other than Annihilator it was the only album that I have ever seen where not only was a lyric sheet included, but also contained little sections above each song title that sort of gave a history and description to what inspired the songs. I have always had a hard time finding a copy of No Place for Disgrace. Friends would record it for me through the years. Even though overall I would consider both Doomsday For the Deceiver and When the Storm Comes Down to be Heavier than No Place For Disgrace in different ways. I think that NE Terror is definitely not only the Heaviest Flotsam and Jetsam song, but also among the Heaviest songs of all time . It's been years since I've heard When the Storm Comes Down maybe I should listen to it again, I just found a CD of Doomsday For the Deceiver at a Pawn shop last year, it was better than I remember it being. Love Eric AK's Halford style screams , but overall Doomsday is lacking a good mid tempo song. Most of the album is fast and faster
@@RuthlessMetalYT I like the debut a lot, I just don't quite enjoy it as much as No Place for Disgrace. I thought that Flotsam and Jetsam should have been huge on the strength of their first 2 albums. I just wish that they would have continued on the same musical path. Probably my all time favorite Thrash Metal band. I prefer NWOBHM style Traditional Metal, but Flotsam and Jetsam, and the Forbidden debut have enough of those elements to enjoy them as much as Axe Witch, Silver Mountain, Gotham City and Saxon. I also like Kreator, Sodom, early Slayer, Exodus and Dark Angel, but I just have to be in the mood for that style .
1 - Doomsday for the Deceiver (1986) 2 - No Place for Disgrace (1988) 3 - Flotsam and Jetsam (2016) 4 - When the Storm Comes Down (1990) 5 - Cuatro (1992) 6 - The Cold (2010) 7 - The End of Chaos (2019) 8 - Blood in the Water (2021) 9 - High (1997) 10 - Dreams of Death (2005) 11 - Ugly Noise (2012) 11 - My God (2001) 12 - Unnatural Selection (1999) 13 - Drift (1995)
Even though I'm romantically more attached to When the Storm comes down (best thrashing sound !! for me) - Drift and The Cold. I agree with your ranking list. First three albums are ... masterpieces! Flot's 'till Death!
My Ranking For The Flotsam And Jetsam Albums Would Be 14. Dreams Of Death 13. Drift 12. Unnatural Selection 11. My God 10. Ugly Noise 9. The Cold 8. Cuatro 7. High 6. Flotsam And Jetsam 5. The End Of Chaos 4. Blood In The Water 3. No Place For Disgrace 2. Doomsday For The Deceiver 1. When The Storm Comes Down
After Quattro, I lost interest, but the most recent couple of albums, THEY'RE BACK! I saw them back in 93 in Houston Texas USA and they kicked ass. Saw them again with James Rivera on vocals and he butchered every song.
my ranking 1. Cuatro 2. No Place For Disgrace 3. When the Storm Comes Down 4. Doomsday 5. Drift 6. My God 7. Flotsam and Jetsam 8. High 9. Blood In the Water 10. The End of Chaos 11. Unnatural Selection 12. Dreams of Death 13. The Cold 14. Ugly Noise
1. Doomsday for the Deceiver 2. When the Storm Comes Down 3. No Place for Disgrace 4. The End of Chaos 5. Blood in the Water 6. Flotsam and Jetsam 7. Cuatro 8. High 9. Drift 10. My God 11. Dreams of Death 12. Ugly Noise 13. The Cold 14. Unnatural Selection
I only have one criticism of their When the storm comes down album, and that it the tappy sound of the snare drum, I’d love to hear the album with a more traditional tuned metal snare.
@@RuthlessMetalYT I was wondering, have you ever listened to an Album from Australian thrash band Allegiance, called D.E.S.T.I.T.U.T.I.O.N. Circa 1994. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this album.
Even though I seen them live in 1985 in London and a few other times after that and loved their stuff I am ashamed to say that I don't own one album of them 😒
@@RuthlessMetalYT Indeed...this and the one after it drift are silimar. If you ask me I prefer this than Doomsday but that is just my taste. Shame it was not released on LP but only CD. A great record.
1. When The Storm Comes Down - only pure thrsh album F&J 2. Doomsday for the Deceiver 3. No Place For Disgrace 4. The Cold 5. My God 6. Drift 7. Dreams of Death 8. Cuatro 9. Ugly Noise 10. Blood In The Water 11. Flotsam and jetsam 12. The End of Chaos 13. High 14. Unnatural Sekection
Wait,,,there were albums after DoomsDay For The Deceiver ??? :) Just a joke. Actually, the titles been on my mind lately. I did buy that though and dug it. Been ages since i heard it. Never paid attention later. Newkid was like the manager of that band from what i recall. Went thru the gauntlet with Metallica. No wonder his next project was called IR8. Now i'll watch the vid. Thanx in advance !
Bought "No Place" as soon as it came out and found the title track to be a very solid and memorable effort, but for whatever reason I never followed them since that time and barely made it through the rest of the album. I need to connect with a voice and Chuck Billy or Tom Araya just worked better for aggressive thrash
'High' is definitely my Fave. You ranked 'Unnatural Selection' as worst? Dude, that record is movin! But hey, no one is "right" on what is best and what is shit. Us old school (55yrs) metalheads appreciate the groove Pantera put in the thrash style of metal. Simply, because "thrash" was getting boring and it needed a some different ingredients added. In the 90s many 80s thrash bands were adding ingredients in just to stay in the mix and uggh...stay 'relevant'. Testament, for example, added what they always needed and went better than ever in the 90s but sold less records. Starting with '94 'Low' (Personally, still their best to date) and '97 'Demonic' is just pure brutality and '99 'The Gathering' which has a mix of Low and Demonic is, again, IMO...perfect, despite the decline in sales. F&J dropped the ball a few times but the groove style they incorporated in a few of the mid 90s records, fits them the best. They were just following the thrash movement of the time, with Dooomsday AND IS NOT their best. It wasn't even close to their "style". Like for example 'Show no Mercy' isn't even close to the same style as 'Reign in Blood' or that 'South of Heaven' or 'Seasons in the Abyss' is to 'Hell Awaits' but its still Slayer. I even love the Diabolus in Musica record(Alot of people don't) because it's just super heavy and intense with Araya belting vocals from the very depths of hell like never before. These lists are just YOUR OWN personal tastes. It doesn't mean shit to me, or anyone else but, YOU! Thanks for "informing" us on YOUR favorites anyway. Btw, I would bet dollars to donuts that NOT 1 person ENTIRELY agrees with ANY of your lists. You had fun(and time) which probably made you believe that you were the all seeing "worst to best" critic of metal! It's appreciated, at most! Siskel & Ebert were wrong 90% of the time on their movie choices and they had a long running 'critics' TV show! They also believed that their opinions were "GOSPEL" and 100% accurate, that they were the only 2 people that knew anything about good and bad movies but, its all for the ole entertainment purposes now isn't it? I can say this though....it IS appreciated, at most! Cheerz 🍻 🤘 "If its too loud, You're too old"
Unnatural Selection is more or less a groove metal album and I don't like that style at all. Thrash never got boring, groove is what was boring from the start. :) Cheers!
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I love F&J, but my favorite has to be
"No Place for Disgrace."
Perfect melodic Metal.🤘🤘
Cheers! 👍
I don't think they've ever put out one Bad album and I own all of them. Great ranking as always🤘
Yeah well, They kinda got lost there for a while I think, they were still good songwriters but that alternative rock/metal sound of some of their records I could have done without. I'm glad that they've returned to a more metal sound over the last couple of records. Cheers! 🤘
Great band! Cuatro is how the Black Album should have sounded.
No Place For Disgrace is one of my all-time favourite albums.
I don’t hear many people say that over the years.
I think it’s a thrash metal classic personally.
I listened to NPFD all day today in my work truck. It always takes me back.
It is 🤘
I agree, the first two are legendary. Cheers!
This band deserves much more attention than it gets, so THANKS for this video! For me No Place...is their best album. And i would like to mention to everyone: GO TO SEE THEM LIVE, if you have the opportunity!.
Yeah, amazing band. Cheers!
I've sooo waited for this one...thank you for making it !!
Thank you! Cheers!
I thank you, mr Ruthless for introducing me ( i think it was your 1986- ten-best-ranking video) to D.f.t.D. album. It is fantastic! I think it is one of the best debut albums ever, maybe the best. You are right, it has no fillers. Every song is a killer!
Yeah, it's an amazing album. One of the absolute best. 🥂
I have a soft spot for Cuatro because I got that CD for free by accident through Columbia House and that's how I discovered the band! Double Zero and Secret Square are probably my favorite tracks.
good stuff. Cheers!
Haha i love Cuatro too and not because i got it for free by accident :D, i bought it with pure evil intentions and its a great album
Can't wait to check some of these out. I also have to agree some real talent NPFD was my first F&M album 🤘👏👏 great video as always
thanks boss, Cheers!
First heard F&J on the Headbanger's Ball promoting Cuatro. Loved it and Drift. Empty Air is still one of my all time favorite songs.
Cheers!
i must admit i haven’t heard a lot of their middle discography, but the last few have all been really solid and doomsday for the deceiver is easily a top 20 thrash album of all time. such an underrated band 🤘🏽
Yeah, well it ain't for everyone that's for sure. :) Cheers!
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Interesting you mentioned Soundgarden during the Drift album, because Chris Cornell actually has writing credits on Cuatro. Anyway, my favorites from each of those albums, respectively, are Smoked Out and Wading Through the Darkness.
Yeah, one song there if I don't remember it wrong. Drift was like the best grunge album ever made. haha Cheers!
"I Live You Die" from Metal Massacre 7 was the first and best song I heard from these guys. Underrated band.
great one! Cheers!
I can't wait to listen to this band now! Thanks for making these videos dude👍
Thank you. Cheers!
I think The Cold was an absolutely a sleeper great album.
Cheers!
Great band saddled with incredibly bad luck. Yet they're still releasing good music. Perseverance
Yeah, despite them going down that mainstream direction they never fully became a mainstream band but perserverance is important, they are perhaps more respected today than ever before. Cheers!
Do Fates Warning!!Love your content
Yes! Fates Warning are my 3rd favorite band behind Dream Theater and Rush!
I haven't heard half of their discography but whenever I get too it maybe. ;) Cheers!
@@RuthlessMetalYT they weren't really thrash so understandable but very relevant back in those old days
Killer video as always! You should do a video of the worst to best Agent Steel albums (and maybe show where Mad Locust Rising would fit between those?)
I might do that some day, we'll see. :D 🥂
I wholeheartedly agree with your choices. Amazingly, their last three were very well produced and thrashing for recent productions. Most bands’ production these days are too flat and heavily down-tuned.
yeah, the loudness wars. terrible, cheers!
I got "When the Storm Comes Down" when it came out and loved the hell out of it. Seeing it at #3 overall is probably about right.
Yeah I like the album but some people thought of it as rather mediocre. 🥂
Drift is simply amazing! Not a bad song on the album, but Smoked Out is one of the most perfect angry songs ever created. Check it out if you haven't.
yeah a little grungy though. ;) Cheers!
I thought it was a diamond in the rough during those days in the 90’s.
Doomsday for the Deceiver is a classic, the only album to feature Jason Newsted before he join Metallica. Also, No Place for Disgrace and When The Storm Comes Down are amazing as well
Cheers!
Great vid.Really enjoyed.I agree with your top 3,but I put When the Storm Comes Down,as my favorite.I got into that album,when it came out in 1990.🤘
good stuff! Cheers!
I have to admit, I enjoy all of your videos and will now add Flotsam and Jetsam to my Spotify playlist. I am not all that familiar with them, but I know they are one of your favorite bands.
The comment about the album "When the Storm Comes Down " about it sounding like "And Justice For All" except for the BASS was funny👍🤘
yeah it has that late 80's early 90's kinda thick thrash sound to it. :) Cheers!
No Place for Disgrace has always been my favorite Flots. But I agree with you on When the storm comes down bring underrated.
yes, an amazing record. :) Cheers!
We're really close on this one!
First saw F&J when they were to open for Celtic Frost in 1987 but CF canceled. I was immediately hooked.
Saw them a year later and opened for King Diamond. Very memorable show.
Oh, must have been a great show. :D
I have the albums "Cuatro" and "Drift". I got them in the 90's. They did have to take a slight detour, like many others, to survive the grunge onslaught. I looked into buying "No Place For Disgrace", but all I can seem to find is the re-recorded issue. I'll have to look harder to find those first three albums with their original recordings. Thanks for the video, Ruthless!
thank you. yeah cuatro and drift was in another style than their early work for sure. Cheers!
Just by Jason's contributions to Flotsam and Jetsam, it's such a shame Metallica were too emotionally stunted/immature to let Jason write more.
Yeah, he was certainly one of the most talented bass players in thrash. Cheers! 👍
Cuatro and The Cold, underrated albums.
cheers!
I’ve been a fan and following since Doomsday. I would’ve ranked a little differently. But awesome list. Kudos my Metal brother
Good stuff. Cheers!
Me 2. Since before Jason leave.
Love this band, incredibly underrated
Cheers!
The Cold is a bad ass modern F&J album. One of my favorites.
Cheers!
My favorite album will always be High... Monster is my favorite song by them. I also lived in Phx AZ back then and got to visit their studio a few times when this album was being recorded. They played at the Mason Jar all the time back then. The parties at the garage/studios back in the late 90s where they practiced were awesome.
Cheers!
Thank you for recognizing the excellence of WTSCD
I dont understand those short names haha
@@RuthlessMetalYT like most people, too lazy to type out any album title more than 3 words long
But yeah, too many people overlooked that album. The production on the drums and bass wasn't perfect like NPFD, but the songs had better variety.
i love your videos man , a real metal maniac , cheers from montevideo uruguay
thanks boss, Cheers!
Never heard about this band, until they were mentioned alongside Carnivore in Peter Steele’s biography, a good band indeed. Found out about bands like Whiplash too and others because of that book
cheerS
Har bara hört och ägt No Place For Disgrace, tyvärr hade jag den som pris i ett musik quizz 1992 som första pris. Andra pris var en kasstett med Enuff Z'nuff, hahaha. Trevlig och informativ video som vanligt! 🤘🥂
Jaså, gav du bort den? :D Spana in Doomsday, sjukt bra album. Skål! 🥂
@@RuthlessMetalYT Ja, ung och dum!! Ska kolla upp Doomsday For The Deceiver nu när jag har spoyify och allt...
Göre! :)
Ed Carlson and Michael Gilbert. That was a twin guitar attack from hell. Very overlooked IMO.
legends! Cheers!
Flotsam all the way. Listen to them at least 5 times a week!!!!! Good ranking😁😁😁
Thanks boss, 🥂
Great video 🤘🏾keep up the good work 🍻 any chance we will see a Razor rank em all?
Not in the plans right now but they are definitely a band that I should get to sometime. Cheers!
My number one band of all TIME!!!!
damn, Cheers!
“Why is Flotzilla teabagging Satan” heheh, got a good chuckle out of that. Diving into this discography! Debut is stellar!
yes, the early stuff is magical.
@@RuthlessMetalYT As is most other material from the 80s. I've actually listened to F&J's latest release, and modern millennium records are guilty pleasures of mine so there's usually stuff from today that I enjoy anyway, but man their latest album is definitely up there with some of the strongest in terms of new material of older bands.
Best Flotsam & Jetsam moment=
That Jason Newsted bass solo in the middle of Metalshock
insane. :D Cheers!
"Suffer the masses" will always remind me of those last few years spent going to high school way waaaaaaaaay back in the day, lol. Listening to that song gives me a nostalgic vibe every time, it was the end of a truly incredible era as the 80's were coming to a close. The main riff on that track was so fckn HEAVY and I absolutely loved it... couldn't get enough. You could make it even heavier with the right sound system, listening to that one on a car stereo really brought out the low-end without sacrificing the crisp tones on the other side of the spectrum. We've got different tastes when it comes to mixing falsetto with thrash though, it just doesn't seem to mesh that well for me. It definitely has its place, but I've never cared much for falsetto vocals on a thrash track. That style is best suited for the King himself in my humble opinion... King Diamond will always wear that crown in my mind. Great video brother, keep 'em coming! 🤘🏻☠️🤘🏻
Same here. It was one of the first Flotsam songs I heard. Cheers! 🤘🏻
glad you decided to stick around, great video
I haven't decided that yet. I will do videos over this summer and after that we'll see. :)
Very underrated band it sucks that people just know them mainly for Jason newstead and I think doomsday and the deceiver is Jason's best album he's played on
I agree with that, it's better than Justice, which is the only album that I think can compete but you can't even hear him play on it so. :D Cheers!
Don't have a ranking as I don't own all of their albums, but just like alot of the bands in my collection, my first is usually my favorite. In F&J, for me it's Cuatro. I love the dynamics on it, blending brutal speed and heaviness with the softer, quirkier bits, also kinda cozying up to grunge with a co-write with Chris Cornell (interesting collaboration). Just a great album in my opinion.
Cheers!
I saw this band live twice in 1999 at the Mason Jar in Phoenix AZ where I was living at the time. I listened to No Place For Disgrace 10 years prior when I was in the 8'th grade. I was really into the Cuatro album when I heard some of it on the Metal Shop radio show before it was even released.
Cheers!
Ask for my ranking. ? Just like Yours ! Nice job, man. ( Had to do my homework for 2 albums from the 2000s. I missed out )
Cheers!
Nice video. Doomsday is great, but no place is my favorite, maybe because I heard it first. I saw them live in Boston when they were supporting High. Great show. I haven't heard most of their 90's stuff, but I thought High was ok. Erik AK is awesome and very underrated. I never knew they went back to their thrash sound. I'm going to check out those more recent albums. One thing though......I did not like that re-recording of No Place for Disgrace. I'm not sure what the point of that was. It was just slower and Erik didn't really hit and sustain the high notes. \m/
Yeah the nineties stuff had a lot of ups and downs, check out cuatro if you can handle some melody. Yeah, re-recordings should be banned because it always turn out sounding worse than the original. Cheers! 🤘🏻
Jeezus Christ on crutches I dint even know Flots made that many lps. I checked out after The Storm Comes Down.
Yeah they kept going with a handful of softer more melodic albums. Cheers!
As much as I like their early albums and a couple of their most recent ones, I've never given the majority of their albums a listen for some reason.
Also, keep up the good work my man! Cheers!
Thanks boss, I will. :) Cheers!
How about ranking Saxon's albums? Just started to listen to their music and it rocks of my socks!
I've got plans to do it this summer. So it might be a few months but it's coming.
@@RuthlessMetalYT Yes, that sounds good! 👍
@@markotuomas672 Strong Arm of the Law is their best album...👍
@@franciskocher200 That album is solid. 🦅🇬🇧 I have to listen more of their stuff before I can choose. I am going to see them play live in july in Rock in the City festival in Oulu.
Commenting as I'm watching, I'm VERY excited to check this video out. Flot is a band that has always been at the wrong place at the wrong time in terms of musical styles but they have a lot of absolutely incredible albums.
Drift, to me, is the best groove metal album there is!
It seems they are always 1 trend behind. That is after the first three. They show up hear a cool new sound happening,record an lp of it then by the time they release it theres a new (nu) sound.
don't know if it's a groove metal album but if it is it might be the best one. haha Cheers!
Great ranking. What about doing Morbid Angel worst to best ranking?
I doubt that will happen in the near future since I don't really listen to the band. :)
Just listened in one day the first 3 records…wtf! Now I’m addicted!
yeah, it's top class thrash
Great work as always, ,man!
thanks boss! :) Cheers!
Hey Man, I really like your taste in thrash and I was wondering if you could make a Video about the best Thrash records released after 2000? Maybe a Top 20, or a Top 10 by the Oldschool Bands and a Top 10 by Bands of the new wave of thrash... I mean, there are not many "great" records that come to my mind, M-16 was pretty good, Power Trips "Nightmare Logic" is great and I liked "The Evolution of Chaos" by Heathen.... something along those lines.
And another question, have you heard of Teutonic Thrashers "Pessimist" ? My friend is the guitarist there, good old War-themed teutonic thrash.. Check out the Song "Landsknecht"
We'll see, I mostly listen to older thrash, not that interested in newer bands unfortunately. ;) Cheers!
@@RuthlessMetalYT yes, for me it is the same, but there have to be some decent albums in that endless amount of new thrash releases. Just like "The End of Chaos" on this list?
Playing marbles with Yahweh . From the one of the song descriptions of the album When the Storm Comes Down. Even though I am not crazy about When the Storm Comes Down, it remains the only Flotsam and Jetsam that I have ever bought new. I remember that other than Annihilator it was the only album that I have ever seen where not only was a lyric sheet included, but also contained little sections above each song title that sort of gave a history and description to what inspired the songs. I have always had a hard time finding a copy of No Place for Disgrace. Friends would record it for me through the years. Even though overall I would consider both Doomsday For the Deceiver and When the Storm Comes Down to be Heavier than No Place For Disgrace in different ways. I think that NE Terror is definitely not only the Heaviest Flotsam and Jetsam song, but also among the Heaviest songs of all time . It's been years since I've heard When the Storm Comes Down maybe I should listen to it again, I just found a CD of Doomsday For the Deceiver at a Pawn shop last year, it was better than I remember it being. Love Eric AK's Halford style screams , but overall Doomsday is lacking a good mid tempo song. Most of the album is fast and faster
I don't need no mid-tempo songs, there are some melodic songs on doomsday though, but damn it's a fine album. Cheers!
@@RuthlessMetalYT I like the debut a lot, I just don't quite enjoy it as much as No Place for Disgrace. I thought that Flotsam and Jetsam should have been huge on the strength of their first 2 albums. I just wish that they would have continued on the same musical path. Probably my all time favorite Thrash Metal band. I prefer NWOBHM style Traditional Metal, but Flotsam and Jetsam, and the Forbidden debut have enough of those elements to enjoy them as much as Axe Witch, Silver Mountain, Gotham City and Saxon. I also like Kreator, Sodom, early Slayer, Exodus and Dark Angel, but I just have to be in the mood for that style .
@@godetonter4764 yeah they were always on the verge of becoming big I guess.
@@RuthlessMetalYT thanks for the replies, and always great videos
1 - Doomsday for the Deceiver (1986)
2 - No Place for Disgrace (1988)
3 - Flotsam and Jetsam (2016)
4 - When the Storm Comes Down (1990)
5 - Cuatro (1992)
6 - The Cold (2010)
7 - The End of Chaos (2019)
8 - Blood in the Water (2021)
9 - High (1997)
10 - Dreams of Death (2005)
11 - Ugly Noise (2012)
11 - My God (2001)
12 - Unnatural Selection (1999)
13 - Drift (1995)
Cheers!
Never listened to Flotsam, I'll start with your no.1 recommendation.
It's time! Cheers!
Listen to "No place for disgrace" it's kick ass Metal !
Even though I'm romantically more attached to When the Storm comes down (best thrashing sound !! for me) - Drift and The Cold. I agree with your ranking list. First three albums are ... masterpieces! Flot's 'till Death!
Cheers!
So many people forget that the Iron Maiden was actually a torture device. I wrote a song about the Iron Maiden many years ago
Yeah it's mostly just a metal band these days. :D 🥂
Damn you always seem to call it right and I’m from Arizona and Flotsam forever!!!! Seen them so many times in mesa and Tempe
Nice, I've never seen them live but I live in the middle of nowhere. :S
The are no Iron Maiden as far as a stage set goes but god damn my neck hurt for days every time I saw them
Cheers!
🤘Great Rank of awesome band🤘unrrated🤘
Cheers!
@@RuthlessMetalYT 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Flotsam are my absolute favourite band to go see live. Honestly their songs become 10 times better when they play em live, what a great band
I've never seen them live unfortunately but I live in the middle of nowhere. :S Cheers!
Good ranking👍👍
thanks boss, Cheers!
Also the re recorded of the 1st 2 lps that they did are also BAD ASS as well!!
Cheers!
My Ranking For The Flotsam And Jetsam Albums Would Be
14. Dreams Of Death
13. Drift
12. Unnatural Selection
11. My God
10. Ugly Noise
9. The Cold
8. Cuatro
7. High
6. Flotsam And Jetsam
5. The End Of Chaos
4. Blood In The Water
3. No Place For Disgrace
2. Doomsday For The Deceiver
1. When The Storm Comes Down
When the storm comes down is number 1 for me!
Damn, Cheers!
Suffer the masses! ‘Nuff said!!
You should do a list of the lightest to heaviest exumer albums
the first one is superior to anything they ever did. Cheers!
IT will be a new flotsam and jetsam album called i am the weapon which comes out september this year
One of my favorite bands! I have translated one of their songs on my other channel ❤
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After Quattro, I lost interest, but the most recent couple of albums, THEY'RE BACK! I saw them back in 93 in Houston Texas USA and they kicked ass. Saw them again with James Rivera on vocals and he butchered every song.
ah, You think James Rivera would do a great job. Cheers! 🤘🏻
I love the last three albums. I’m going to see them in two weeks with Hypocrisy!
Nice, have fun!
Seen them live end of chaos tour great show looking forward to seeing them again
Cheers!
What about RAZOR ? Would be great to hear Your opinion on this alltime underdogs from Canada.
I've definitely thought of it, but we'll see. I'll probably lay a bit low during the summer. Cheers!
Drift is awesome. Sonically it sounds amazing.
yes, but it's almost a rock album. Cheers!
my ranking
1. Cuatro
2. No Place For Disgrace
3. When the Storm Comes Down
4. Doomsday
5. Drift
6. My God
7. Flotsam and Jetsam
8. High
9. Blood In the Water
10. The End of Chaos
11. Unnatural Selection
12. Dreams of Death
13. The Cold
14. Ugly Noise
cheers
1. Doomsday for the Deceiver
2. When the Storm Comes Down
3. No Place for Disgrace
4. The End of Chaos
5. Blood in the Water
6. Flotsam and Jetsam
7. Cuatro
8. High
9. Drift
10. My God
11. Dreams of Death
12. Ugly Noise
13. The Cold
14. Unnatural Selection
Cheerios!
I only have one criticism of their When the storm comes down album, and that it the tappy sound of the snare drum, I’d love to hear the album with a more traditional tuned metal snare.
yeah it has a bit of that 90's sound. Cheers!
@@RuthlessMetalYT I was wondering, have you ever listened to an Album from Australian thrash band Allegiance, called D.E.S.T.I.T.U.T.I.O.N. Circa 1994. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this album.
Even though I seen them live in 1985 in London and a few other times after that and loved their stuff I am ashamed to say that I don't own one album of them 😒
it's time. ;)
I am listening to Cuatro a lot these days! It is very good! Kinda like it.
I listened to it a lot a long time ago. It's very typical of it's time when the thrash bands slowed down.
@@RuthlessMetalYT Indeed...this and the one after it drift are silimar. If you ask me I prefer this than Doomsday but that is just my taste. Shame it was not released on LP but only CD. A great record.
@@danaeloucaidou4991 nah, doomsday is just so energetic, I love it. :D
The Cold is a phenomenal album throughout, if you can accept it as a heavy metal record and not a thrash record. NPFD is my favorite though.
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I can't argue with #1 and #2 as they're the only F&J albums that I own.
Yeah those are the best for sure, but the three latest are really good. Cheers!
Got Doomsday when it came out. I was so excited when I heard JN joined Metallica. The bass tone was so good. Then AJFA had no bass. Go figure.
haha. fail. :D Cheers!
I tend to really like the 90s albums, the only 80s album I would put over those would be "No Place for Disgrace"
Yeah I like some of 'em even if they aren't that metallic. :D Cheers!
1. When the storm comes down
Cheers!
Finally you listened to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hehe cheers!
1. When The Storm Comes Down - only pure thrsh album F&J
2. Doomsday for the Deceiver
3. No Place For Disgrace
4. The Cold
5. My God
6. Drift
7. Dreams of Death
8. Cuatro
9. Ugly Noise
10. Blood In The Water
11. Flotsam and jetsam
12. The End of Chaos
13. High
14. Unnatural Sekection
Cheers!
Game Over is a Thrash masterpiece!
Yes Sir!
Wait,,,there were albums after DoomsDay For The Deceiver ??? :)
Just a joke. Actually, the titles been on my mind lately.
I did buy that though and dug it. Been ages since i heard it.
Never paid attention later.
Newkid was like the manager of that band from what i recall.
Went thru the gauntlet with Metallica.
No wonder his next project was called IR8.
Now i'll watch the vid. Thanx in advance !
Don't forget about No Place For Disgrace, it's amazing too!
Bought "No Place" as soon as it came out and found the title track to be a very solid and memorable effort, but for whatever reason I never followed them since that time and barely made it through the rest of the album. I need to connect with a voice and Chuck Billy or Tom Araya just worked better for aggressive thrash
yeah he is just another type of vocalist, but I prefer Eric AK to most thrash vocalists. hehe Cheers!
@@RuthlessMetalYT idea for your next video: top 5 vocalists in thrash, I don't think there are 10!
Rankzilla! 😆😅🤣🤘 awesome
cheers
Ruthless have you ever listened to the band Transmetal?
yes, mexican thrashers. :)
No Place for disgrace is definitely my favorite
Cheers! 👍
I Am The Weapon just came out not too long ago
yes sir, haven't really checked it out yet. grew a bit tired of flotsam even if they are one of my favourites or were.
Drift is the best album period!!!
I guess, because I have been a fan from day one, All of the albums hit at a specific time in my life and Erik always speaks to me personally.
Cheers!
\m/ oh yeah
Cheers!
'High' is definitely my Fave. You ranked 'Unnatural Selection' as worst? Dude, that record is movin! But hey, no one is "right" on what is best and what is shit. Us old school (55yrs) metalheads appreciate the groove Pantera put in the thrash style of metal. Simply, because "thrash" was getting boring and it needed a some different ingredients added. In the 90s many 80s thrash bands were adding ingredients in just to stay in the mix and uggh...stay 'relevant'. Testament, for example, added what they always needed and went better than ever in the 90s but sold less records. Starting with '94 'Low' (Personally, still their best to date) and '97 'Demonic' is just pure brutality and '99 'The Gathering' which has a mix of Low and Demonic is, again, IMO...perfect, despite the decline in sales.
F&J dropped the ball a few times but the groove style they incorporated in a few of the mid 90s records, fits them the best. They were just following the thrash movement of the time, with Dooomsday AND IS NOT their best. It wasn't even close to their "style". Like for example 'Show no Mercy' isn't even close to the same style as 'Reign in Blood' or that 'South of Heaven' or 'Seasons in the Abyss' is to 'Hell Awaits' but its still Slayer. I even love the Diabolus in Musica record(Alot of people don't) because it's just super heavy and intense with Araya belting vocals from the very depths of hell like never before.
These lists are just YOUR OWN personal tastes. It doesn't mean shit to me, or anyone else but, YOU!
Thanks for "informing" us on YOUR favorites anyway. Btw, I would bet dollars to donuts that NOT 1 person ENTIRELY agrees with ANY of your lists. You had fun(and time) which probably made you believe that you were the all seeing "worst to best" critic of metal! It's appreciated, at most!
Siskel & Ebert were wrong 90% of the time on their movie choices and they had a long running 'critics' TV show!
They also believed that their opinions were "GOSPEL" and 100% accurate, that they were the only 2 people that knew anything about good and bad movies but, its all for the ole entertainment purposes now isn't it?
I can say this though....it IS appreciated, at most!
Cheerz 🍻 🤘
"If its too loud, You're too old"
Unnatural Selection is more or less a groove metal album and I don't like that style at all. Thrash never got boring, groove is what was boring from the start. :) Cheers!