I see you buddy! It's ironic this video is coming out now given that I'm switched my own training to more high rep/lighter weight work. It's just not as taxing on the body and it's enjoyable to get a pump after 15 years of mainly pushing low reps, high weight. My body is beat up anymore and the higher rep work just feels more forgiving. But I can't say that I'll ever have the discipline to follow a bodybuilding diet for a prolonged period of time!
Higher rep stuff is definitely more forgiving in general. Especially when you have been pushing the kinds of numbers that you were in the past man! I can't really imagine what 900 pounds must feel like in your hands haha.
I love how this series highlights the importance about objectively looking at each training modality in order find your ‘best’ training approach using aspects of different training modalities
One other pro I can think of from a performance vantage is incorporating a philosophy of balance and symmetry; things like the upper back, lats, rear delts, and hips/abs that athletes like powerlifters tend to neglect (a point I got from "why I don't like powerlifting") that could indirectly cause weaknesses or injuries down the road
Haha love that you subtly chose old school bodybuilders, which were true athletes imo compared to today. If that wasn’t your intention that’s how I saw it! Lol. I love bodybuilding and always will. It gave me the muscle and strength base and nutrition know how that has kept me healthy and injury free all these years. We have similar muscular control, my right arm vs leg arm etc etc. Great video, man!
It was by design ;) I found inspiration from those guys when I was younger. Not the modern generation, however, which is why I specifically chose old school guys for the intro!
@@EnkiriElite I knew it! Lol. I thought, I see what you did there. Sly, very sly 🤝 I was the same growing up. For me, bodybuilding peaked in the 90’s and has been a rolling turd downhill ever since. Yes, I am no fan of new school building, if you can call it that.
Dave Tate talked about that in a podcast with JM a few years ago I think. He actually started out as a bodybuilder and for a while ate clean(to the point where it heavily affected his social life, but so did his lifting in general) till he got into powerlifting and had to forcibly eat like shit to gain weight quickly (the advice he got from JM). They both also talked about the mental aspect that goes into it, "Reaching your goal closer and closer with every forced bite". It actually also highlights the issues with the diet obsessed nature of bodybuilding; over-obsession with "clean" eating and the fear of not being able to see your vascularity or striations. It seems to easily lead to a love-hate relationship with food. Good video overall
Love this idea of looking at positives and negatives of the different paths you can follow when lifting. Really creative idea with the two-part video about each.
How tall are you? I lost 60 lbs within 6 months last year and gained 30 back. I’m short 5’5” so I had a lot to lose. 235-175 then going 205-165 or less.
The best feature of BB training philosophy IMHO is Injury prevention by doing slow and controlled repetitions, focusing on the eccentric just as much as the concentric and training your CNS by practicing mind-muscle connection
Your balanced approach is great. As we age the challenge is more and more to preserve both the mass of our musculature and the strength/range of our "movement vocabulary." When this is done in a way that supports metabolic, endocrine, and cardiovascular function we might function passably well as we age.
bahahaha I have said numerous times that there are many aspects of Crossfit that I like! I even said it in the video where I was talking about why I dont like it haha.
Love the vids and channel. Very thought provoking. I think also a good positive of BB, which you could probably lump in with self confidence is the feedback you get in the mirror from your hard work. I have had no clearer experience of an obvious positive result of hard work than seeing your body change as you put in the consistent work over a long time. I have found this an unexpected but powerful experience and one which has carryover to the rest of your life. The lesson being if you put in the work you will get results.
I agree with you man. Hypertrophy focused training has taught me how to eat better, manage fatigue, and gets me laid wayyyy more than CrossFit or powerlifting 🤣
This guy I knew growing up, he was an athletic beast. But he was a narcissistic, lying con artist. He could have taken kicking a football a long ways. Through out the years nobody saw a change in him until he started bodybuilding. It humbled him. Gave him a good goals to follow.
Even Louie Simmons in his last ever podcast said that we need to train like a bodybuilder! Having to look for some reasonable muscle gains is definitely a goal even in athletic sports like soccer. Thin players might be more agile and can be faster, but no one likes a dude who fell easily whenever they got slightly bodied. Cristiano Ronaldo is an example in this regard.
A little off-topic but I agree that heavy weights are better for developing proper lifting technique! For one, if you're working at 85% 1RM of higher, you NEED to activate your CNS properly and get each part of your body to work in unison, or else you'l either fail the lift or get injured. Also, lighter weights can result in poor form because until you get to the end of your set and you're grinding, you're kind just breezing through the motions. Plus, higher rep sets can lead to one muscle group getting fatigued, and bad form setting in
Eventually your low weight will be someone else's high weight tho, so even if you never have powerlifter tendons, you will still be mogging most lifters, right? Like if I only do curls for sets of 14, but I have progressed up to curling 50's for nice controlled/good form reps, then aren't my arm's tendons stronger than someone who can only curl 50's for 6? Maybe biceps are a stupid example, but other joints probably work similarly. I always do low rep for the big lifts tho
Alec, I just saw an oldschool image of a lifter doing overhead press, starting the press from the level of the nipple line of the chest rather than the sternum/top of shoulders. Do you think that it's more beneficial ?
I think that is going to involve a lot of layback to make it work, which is how old school guys used to press. Less of an ohp...more of a standing Incline Bench in many ways. Not without value, but not my cup of tea either.
Let's be honest about bodybuilding, it's a pageant that sees who can use the most amount of drugs without killing themselves in my opinion of course. Just look what happened to Ronnie Coleman. Plus you see many many bodybuilders dying off. Not a good endeavor to get into.
@@andrewforeman9257 the BB stands for bodybuilding. There's a difference between building up your body through strength training and Bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is one word and it's own endeavor. Bodybuilding in my opinion needs to die forever, it's not healthy at all.
@@triton827triton9 there's nothing inherently wrong with bodybuilding and this was more obvious before steroids were invented. By its very nature, it IS the effort of building your body (using whatever means available with diet and training manipulation). Like with most things, people replaced effort and time with drug use/abuse and warped the end goal to look as monstrous as possible. It doesn't change the fact that the core philosophy remains solid. And there is a big distinction between professional and recreational, as with most things.
@@111kino While I agree with what you are saying. The point I'm making is bodybuilding is a competition where you train to go on stage and prance around in a thong. I'm not talking about normal training or people who train with minimal steroids. If you don't complete on stage then you aren't a bodybuilder, you are just someone who trains or works out. Bodybuilding is just a competition on who can use the most drugs without killing themselves, but in the end many of them die as a result of drug abuse.
@@triton827triton9 again, there's a difference between recreational bodybuilding and professional bodybuilding. The issue (most people are having) is that nowadays there's barely a distinction because a lot of people genuinely consider either doing a professional show at some point or constantly posting their aesthetics on social media or both. But there's still the silent amount that just do it for their physical and mental health (the recreational side).
Hey random question. Do you have any imbalances while training for strength? Unilateral or just as a body part in general. If so, do they impede your performance?
My imbalances were not caused by strength training. They were caused primarily by all the sports I played growing up. Strength training exacerbated some of them. But that would have occurred regardless of the style of weight training that was being used.
@@EnkiriElite thanks for the reply. the reason im asking is because ive noticed some imbalances in my body. namely my right tricep. i think this is the cause that i right pec is less developed than me left when i started specializing the bench press. is this something i need concerned over? Does this mean i need to hypertrophy those muscles more? or can i just continue my strength training. ive noticed that because of this other imbalances started to occur in other areas. does this mean that i have to stop benching for a while until the imbalance is fixed?
Hey kind of an irrelevant question but….have you noticed pure bullfit’s return? And if you have, how do you feel about it? Will make a video poking fun at him? 😂
No, they don't. Moreover not even all the athletes in any particular sport do. Bcs sports either require you to accelerate fast or they have weight classes. So a lot or all of the athletes in any sport can't afford to pack on as much muscle as possible. The only exception are niche sports that don't have weight classes yet.
@@MrCmon113 there is such a thing as targeted muscle growth. If i need stronger legs I'd add muscle to my legs which means I'd train like a bodybuilder just for my legs. Plus most of the time for most people when you add muscle your weight doesn't change all that much. Most of us are healthy and normal so the extra fee onces if muscle added to quads can easily be taken away from fat stores. Sports that require great acceleration are the ones I'm thinking of. Physical therapy very often requires putting extra muscle where it's lacking to fix bad habits and prevent injuries. This is often in high acceleration sports where bad daily habits or consistent overuse can creat visible imbalances. Last point, everyone was a beginner trying to figure out their place which means your body is changing to suit the sport. 90% of the time that change is more muscle.
The fact that you didn’t do a “Why I don’t like weightlifting,” or “Why I don’t like strongman,” tells me that both of these iron sports are legit. I can see you doing one on weightlifting, but no one can shit on strongman.
Hi Alec, I stopped watching your videos a few years ago when you called me stupid for thinking covid was a massive scam. Have you changed your opinion on this or are you still drinking the cool aid?
I don't usually call people stupid unless they come at me first, so either I didn't call you stupid and you're embellishing the truth or you hurled a personal attack at me for no reason. Either way, the politics of covid are irrelevant to my channel and I dint intend on discussing them.
@@EnkiriElite you didn't say "stupid" but you did suggest I was some sort of conspiracy nut job. FYI I most definitely didn't throw any personal insults at you, I prefer civilised discourse! Anyway I can read between the lines from the tone of your response👍
70s bodybuilding: Golden era of beautiful physiques but also the dark age of overtrainig being mainstream. But then we got Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer who were far ahead of their time: The 80s was the Golden Era as well, but they weren't overtraining and blew up in size. The 90s and early 2000s had the best genepool and the most fanatical athletes.
Absolutely LOVE the sport and I don't think I'll ever really stop doing it. And yes it is a sport just like Olympic Freediving. Even judging can be logical and objective. Both sports are won through that.
I see you buddy! It's ironic this video is coming out now given that I'm switched my own training to more high rep/lighter weight work. It's just not as taxing on the body and it's enjoyable to get a pump after 15 years of mainly pushing low reps, high weight. My body is beat up anymore and the higher rep work just feels more forgiving. But I can't say that I'll ever have the discipline to follow a bodybuilding diet for a prolonged period of time!
Higher rep stuff is definitely more forgiving in general. Especially when you have been pushing the kinds of numbers that you were in the past man! I can't really imagine what 900 pounds must feel like in your hands haha.
@Enkiri Elite Fitness
The crazy thing is, it was 925lbs too!
I love how this series highlights the importance about objectively looking at each training modality in order find your ‘best’ training approach using aspects of different training modalities
I think you are one of like 100 people who actually get it lol
Nuance haters are gonna be FUMING.
bUt aLeC yOu sEd bOdYbUilDiNg sUx!!!
@@EnkiriElite
You do clickbait titles and then complain about people holding you responsible.
@@MrCmon113 similar to your idol NH
One other pro I can think of from a performance vantage is incorporating a philosophy of balance and symmetry; things like the upper back, lats, rear delts, and hips/abs that athletes like powerlifters tend to neglect (a point I got from "why I don't like powerlifting") that could indirectly cause weaknesses or injuries down the road
Haha love that you subtly chose old school bodybuilders, which were true athletes imo compared to today. If that wasn’t your intention that’s how I saw it! Lol. I love bodybuilding and always will. It gave me the muscle and strength base and nutrition know how that has kept me healthy and injury free all these years. We have similar muscular control, my right arm vs leg arm etc etc. Great video, man!
It was by design ;) I found inspiration from those guys when I was younger. Not the modern generation, however, which is why I specifically chose old school guys for the intro!
@@EnkiriElite I knew it! Lol. I thought, I see what you did there. Sly, very sly 🤝 I was the same growing up. For me, bodybuilding peaked in the 90’s and has been a rolling turd downhill ever since. Yes, I am no fan of new school building, if you can call it that.
idk man, was arnold an athlete? tom platz im not sure too...i know columbo was boxing tho
Based beyond believe. Im No Bodybuilder per se...But its a beautiful and inspiring Sport!
Dave Tate talked about that in a podcast with JM a few years ago I think. He actually started out as a bodybuilder and for a while ate clean(to the point where it heavily affected his social life, but so did his lifting in general) till he got into powerlifting and had to forcibly eat like shit to gain weight quickly (the advice he got from JM). They both also talked about the mental aspect that goes into it, "Reaching your goal closer and closer with every forced bite". It actually also highlights the issues with the diet obsessed nature of bodybuilding; over-obsession with "clean" eating and the fear of not being able to see your vascularity or striations. It seems to easily lead to a love-hate relationship with food.
Good video overall
Love this idea of looking at positives and negatives of the different paths you can follow when lifting. Really creative idea with the two-part video about each.
Trying to get into bodybuilding myself now from being obese. 250ish currently, hoping to get close to 200 by the end of the year.
Admittedly, I haven’t watched the video yet but I saw an opportunity to be first lol.
good luck man!
How tall are you? I lost 60 lbs within 6 months last year and gained 30 back. I’m short 5’5” so I had a lot to lose. 235-175 then going 205-165 or less.
@@TheJackOfAllTrades777 good point, just trying to cut as much body fat as healthily possible by the end of the year. The 200 is arbitrary lol
@@TheJackOfAllTrades777 You can't decide what his weight goal should be without knowing his height, body fat percentage, muscle mass etc.
The best feature of BB training philosophy IMHO is Injury prevention by doing slow and controlled repetitions, focusing on the eccentric just as much as the concentric and training your CNS by practicing mind-muscle connection
Your balanced approach is great. As we age the challenge is more and more to preserve both the mass of our musculature and the strength/range of our "movement vocabulary." When this is done in a way that supports metabolic, endocrine, and cardiovascular function we might function passably well as we age.
i will seethe and foam at the mouth when you make "Why I like Crossfit"
bahahaha I have said numerous times that there are many aspects of Crossfit that I like! I even said it in the video where I was talking about why I dont like it haha.
@@EnkiriElite don't make that video, Alec.
@@MonkeyBarsEveryday no promises ;)
diet regulation is by far the greatest aspect of bodybuilding. at least imo. most useful for the most ppl.
Love the vids and channel. Very thought provoking. I think also a good positive of BB, which you could probably lump in with self confidence is the feedback you get in the mirror from your hard work. I have had no clearer experience of an obvious positive result of hard work than seeing your body change as you put in the consistent work over a long time. I have found this an unexpected but powerful experience and one which has carryover to the rest of your life. The lesson being if you put in the work you will get results.
Tom Platz is the reason i wanted big legs as well
it's like you read my mind with that one
he's probably my favourite bodybuilder at this point
Those legs and the 500x23 squat set motivated the hell out of me when I was a younger!
4 hour response video from Mr Chud NH incoming...
I agree with you man. Hypertrophy focused training has taught me how to eat better, manage fatigue, and gets me laid wayyyy more than CrossFit or powerlifting 🤣
This guy I knew growing up, he was an athletic beast. But he was a narcissistic, lying con artist. He could have taken kicking a football a long ways. Through out the years nobody saw a change in him until he started bodybuilding. It humbled him. Gave him a good goals to follow.
Got pretty banged up from Boxing and shitty training practices and bodybuilding has been a godsend for the joints I've fucked.
Boxers are funny. I only know two and they got massive shoulders and abs but very little musculature anywhere else.
You're throwing Natural Hypotrophy's world upside down right now.
ELlO uUuUChOoOb
Hes currently making an 8 hour documentary as a response now
@@chrisstanley9477 That's only for part 1 of 15.
@@gctdonyre 😂
Even Louie Simmons in his last ever podcast said that we need to train like a bodybuilder!
Having to look for some reasonable muscle gains is definitely a goal even in athletic sports like soccer. Thin players might be more agile and can be faster, but no one likes a dude who fell easily whenever they got slightly bodied. Cristiano Ronaldo is an example in this regard.
A little off-topic but I agree that heavy weights are better for developing proper lifting technique! For one, if you're working at 85% 1RM of higher, you NEED to activate your CNS properly and get each part of your body to work in unison, or else you'l either fail the lift or get injured. Also, lighter weights can result in poor form because until you get to the end of your set and you're grinding, you're kind just breezing through the motions. Plus, higher rep sets can lead to one muscle group getting fatigued, and bad form setting in
What do you think about the opinion that never prioritizing low rep/high weight leads to weak tendons? Great video btw
Eventually your low weight will be someone else's high weight tho, so even if you never have powerlifter tendons, you will still be mogging most lifters, right?
Like if I only do curls for sets of 14, but I have progressed up to curling 50's for nice controlled/good form reps, then aren't my arm's tendons stronger than someone who can only curl 50's for 6?
Maybe biceps are a stupid example, but other joints probably work similarly. I always do low rep for the big lifts tho
I think Bruce Lee said it best "Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless and add what is specifically your own".
That advice is itself completely useless.
Why tf would you ever not absorb what's useful or discard what's useless?
My biceps are close to 22 inches lean. Only 8 inches shy of 22 inches.
Alec, I just saw an oldschool image of a lifter doing overhead press, starting the press from the level of the nipple line of the chest rather than the sternum/top of shoulders. Do you think that it's more beneficial ?
I think that is going to involve a lot of layback to make it work, which is how old school guys used to press. Less of an ohp...more of a standing Incline Bench in many ways. Not without value, but not my cup of tea either.
Let's be honest about bodybuilding, it's a pageant that sees who can use the most amount of drugs without killing themselves in my opinion of course. Just look what happened to Ronnie Coleman. Plus you see many many bodybuilders dying off. Not a good endeavor to get into.
That’s not necessarily “bodybuilding” but instead the IFBB
@@andrewforeman9257 the BB stands for bodybuilding. There's a difference between building up your body through strength training and Bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is one word and it's own endeavor. Bodybuilding in my opinion needs to die forever, it's not healthy at all.
@@triton827triton9 there's nothing inherently wrong with bodybuilding and this was more obvious before steroids were invented. By its very nature, it IS the effort of building your body (using whatever means available with diet and training manipulation). Like with most things, people replaced effort and time with drug use/abuse and warped the end goal to look as monstrous as possible. It doesn't change the fact that the core philosophy remains solid. And there is a big distinction between professional and recreational, as with most things.
@@111kino While I agree with what you are saying. The point I'm making is bodybuilding is a competition where you train to go on stage and prance around in a thong. I'm not talking about normal training or people who train with minimal steroids. If you don't complete on stage then you aren't a bodybuilder, you are just someone who trains or works out. Bodybuilding is just a competition on who can use the most drugs without killing themselves, but in the end many of them die as a result of drug abuse.
@@triton827triton9 again, there's a difference between recreational bodybuilding and professional bodybuilding. The issue (most people are having) is that nowadays there's barely a distinction because a lot of people genuinely consider either doing a professional show at some point or constantly posting their aesthetics on social media or both. But there's still the silent amount that just do it for their physical and mental health (the recreational side).
Hey man, what is your advice for starting out in "knowledge" for lifting ? Just learn from experience or read something ?
And as always... Great vid !!!
Can you please do a review on kneesovertoes guy? He’s sort of up your alley and I need the enkiri analysis to make sense of his channel lol
He already did
You can't deny that Arnold's physique is just fuckin cool.
Idea for the next video : "Why I like Athlean - x and why you should to" :D :D
You're a funny man with your titles man 😂
Glad you enjoy em bro!
can you make one for powerbuilding ?
Hey random question. Do you have any imbalances while training for strength? Unilateral or just as a body part in general. If so, do they impede your performance?
My imbalances were not caused by strength training. They were caused primarily by all the sports I played growing up. Strength training exacerbated some of them. But that would have occurred regardless of the style of weight training that was being used.
@@EnkiriElite thanks for the reply. the reason im asking is because ive noticed some imbalances in my body. namely my right tricep. i think this is the cause that i right pec is less developed than me left when i started specializing the bench press. is this something i need concerned over? Does this mean i need to hypertrophy those muscles more? or can i just continue my strength training. ive noticed that because of this other imbalances started to occur in other areas. does this mean that i have to stop benching for a while until the imbalance is fixed?
Gotta get big if you wanna get strong
BUT ALEC! I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU HATED BODYBUILDING 😱
It sucks and I hate it man. These damn multiple personalities be fuckin wit me sometimes.
@@EnkiriElite Well as long as it doesn't happen again 🤓 because I would HATE to see another video like this 😉
Hey kind of an irrelevant question but….have you noticed pure bullfit’s return? And if you have, how do you feel about it? Will make a video poking fun at him? 😂
Yes, a few people let me know. I have no intention of engaging with Kevin or acknowledging his presence on the platform.
@@EnkiriElite damn i had popcorn ready and I was hoping for a show lol, but I gotchu man thanks for replying
Seeing the peak of human meat is great
Awesome
Algo comment for the king👑
Commenting for the algo
Every athlete benefits from more muscle so every athlete who's lacking muscle is a bodybuilder at some point.
No, they don't. Moreover not even all the athletes in any particular sport do. Bcs sports either require you to accelerate fast or they have weight classes. So a lot or all of the athletes in any sport can't afford to pack on as much muscle as possible.
The only exception are niche sports that don't have weight classes yet.
@@MrCmon113 there is such a thing as targeted muscle growth. If i need stronger legs I'd add muscle to my legs which means I'd train like a bodybuilder just for my legs.
Plus most of the time for most people when you add muscle your weight doesn't change all that much. Most of us are healthy and normal so the extra fee onces if muscle added to quads can easily be taken away from fat stores.
Sports that require great acceleration are the ones I'm thinking of. Physical therapy very often requires putting extra muscle where it's lacking to fix bad habits and prevent injuries. This is often in high acceleration sports where bad daily habits or consistent overuse can creat visible imbalances.
Last point, everyone was a beginner trying to figure out their place which means your body is changing to suit the sport. 90% of the time that change is more muscle.
So is a "why you should like xfit" coming next, since we're doing clickbait titles now? Lmao
😂😂😂 This title, bro. 👌
thank you kind sir!
@@EnkiriElite You're welcome, my good man.
6:00 bodybuilding is art and strength/power is athletics imo
Does bodybuilding make you balding?
No, it's his cousing the baldbuilding
No but roids do
Baldybuilding
Bodybuilding doesn't make you bald bro, but it does give you erectile dysfunction so you better watch out!
@@EnkiriElite after twenty years in the iron game i think ill take coaths advice over yours alec no offence but he dwarves you in person. Its realityy
coach blaha disapproves
Lol relating comments across videos 😂
People should respond to the title. If you don't mean the title, don't write it.
I agree. Exactly why I started titling stuff this way. Literally sarcasm.
not a fan of bodybuilding ngl
The fact that you didn’t do a “Why I don’t like weightlifting,” or “Why I don’t like strongman,” tells me that both of these iron sports are legit. I can see you doing one on weightlifting, but no one can shit on strongman.
Except i can. Strongman promotes sacrificing your health to be at your best performance. Feel free to tell me if i'm wrong
@@Spike00773 I can see that.
Hi Alec, I stopped watching your videos a few years ago when you called me stupid for thinking covid was a massive scam. Have you changed your opinion on this or are you still drinking the cool aid?
I don't usually call people stupid unless they come at me first, so either I didn't call you stupid and you're embellishing the truth or you hurled a personal attack at me for no reason. Either way, the politics of covid are irrelevant to my channel and I dint intend on discussing them.
@@EnkiriElite you didn't say "stupid" but you did suggest I was some sort of conspiracy nut job. FYI I most definitely didn't throw any personal insults at you, I prefer civilised discourse! Anyway I can read between the lines from the tone of your response👍
@@jimmygibbsjr3259 have a good day 👍
Most narcissistic hobby out there , no thanks it’s gross 🤮
How is striving to look better narcissistic? Lmao
@@nomongosinthaworld
How isn’t it ?, notice how you said “look good” and not be healthy or feel better lmao
Exactly my point 😂
70s bodybuilding:
Golden era of beautiful physiques but also the dark age of overtrainig being mainstream.
But then we got Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer who were far ahead of their time:
The 80s was the Golden Era as well, but they weren't overtraining and blew up in size.
The 90s and early 2000s had the best genepool and the most fanatical athletes.
Absolutely LOVE the sport and I don't think I'll ever really stop doing it.
And yes it is a sport just like Olympic Freediving.
Even judging can be logical and objective. Both sports are won through that.