Nate is a mechanical genius , who has the ability and skills to design and build a workable clutch assembly for the old 1933 Plymouth Coupe. Well Done Nate !!!
Strengthen the main bracket which connects to the bellhousing, Cut off the side bracket that goes to the frame or there is disaster ahead when torque is applied.
Yes the engine rotates on the motor mounts under heavy load and the extra bolt to the frame will get stressed heavily. Something will break!!! Find another way to stabilize the bracket so you can remove that connection to the frame!
@@stephenk79-rc1il The problem will be obvious from the get go with bad vibrations. But what will break? Who knows. It will be the 'weakest link in the chain'.
I had a Valiant Charger, clutch set up the same ,when the engine moved to much like Reverse to 1st while still rolling, 😂 and it had a longer slide than that one ,all the best to you all
Just a question., With the engine mounts installed with the normal stock rubber shock style mounts, it would be normal for the engine to torque or twist slightly when accelerating. The new clutch bracket creates a "hard" point tied to the square tubing that will have to absorb that torque. In racing applications, a much stronger system is used to prevent such a twist. Is the square tubing strong enough or appropriate to absorb the torque/twist without cracking or bending with time?
Nate the only issue that I see with the Clutch assembly is the tie to the firewall frame as the engine will move with normal acceleration and end up cracking the firewall.
What is going to happen to the bracket when the engine goes under load ? Won't the engine want to twist and the clutch bracket is bolted solid , not rubber mounted. I think something is going to break.
Great idea Nate, you’ll figure out your way around the torque problem as you move along. Would definitely want you on any build I was doing. Your thought process is what makes a great hot rod builder. 👍👍🇨🇦
Good morning miss jolene, will you please ask nathan and chad why the clutch bracket is attached at the square tube? Correct me if i'm wrong the square tube is part of the flooring and pix or welded at the chasi, while the engine have engine support, i think the clucht bracket will tear because of the vibration of the engine , obet from phillippines✌️👍🙏
>This is mechanical engineering at its finest Right. Maybe it would help if you knew what mechanical engineering actually is... and it's not just fabricating some metal bracket. "Mechanical engineering is the study of physical machines that may involve force and movement. It is an engineering branch that combines engineering physics and mathematics principles with materials science, to design, analyze, manufacture, and maintain mechanical systems."
I stand by my comment..you have a solid link between the engine and body/frame this will cause noise, vibration, metal fatigue, stress, fracture, failure..also the straight shaft pivot not a good idea, any flex from engine movement or clutch pedal force will cause the system to bind..that is why the stock system utilized a ball pivot..solution: design a clutch lever that bolts directly to the trans fork shaft.. similar to Ford part number 18-7511..pictures sent to Chad.. enough said on this subject..
Great stuff, love these videos. There is a reason why you call him the wizard haha. But he is very mechanically inclined, he is a keeper hahah. Thanks and take care
Great bit of engineering. The question I have, is the engine now solidly attached to the floor pan where any engine movement that is dampened by the moujts will flex the floor pan till it breaks. Just asking so a damper can be included in the clutch attachment,
When Chad and Jolene head to the races at Pine Tree , Super Nate should go along as Chief Mechanic for the Team Hiltz Race Team , to the old 1934 Plymouth Race Car running well on the race track. Jolene is going break the track speed record. With some pre-race shakedowns and practice.
Nathan is a Genius the way he can make parts from scratch and make it look like it was a factory manufactured part 👍 every time he makes something it blows my mind mechanical wizard👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Genius don’t bolt the trans, engine bracket to the frame. The engine and trans have rubber mounts for movement. His bracket is a direct conflict with them, it will quickly fail.
You have a great point but then again this is not their first rodeo , I think they will catch this soon enough, it still building stages, they have to start somewhere. Take care, it is a good point, I have to keep an eye on this.
I stand by my comment..you have a solid link between the engine and body/frame this will cause noise, vibration, metal fatigue, stress, fracture, failure..also the straight shaft pivot not a good idea, any flex from engine movement or clutch pedal force will cause the system to bind..that is why the stock system utilized a ball pivot..solution: design a clutch lever that bolts directly to the trans fork shaft.. similar to Ford part number 18-7511..pictures sent to Chad.. enough said on this subject..
I have a suggestion for a bad Chad please see that he gets this I have swap some bodies before on different projects I've had I find the easiest way to get the body on is to buy four lolly columns that are adjustable get four truck used drums well the post to the drums then get four bumper jacks and where the post separate weld the bumper jack so it lifts the post top section then you can use 4x4s through the windows to jack the body up and then you roll the chassis underneath this is great cuz you can lower and lift up the body without any struggle and trim excess metal away at your leisure The amount of body swaps and stuff like that you guys do you should have these you can make them out of basically scrap check it out Jolene see if he likes that idea
Nathan…It looks like you have Rubber Engine mounts. Now you have added a Mechanical connection between the Engine and the Frame. Not only will this be a problem when the engine tries to flex, but it will transmit engine vibration. This is why the clutch shaft is between the Engine and the Frame. Not only as the clutch pivot but also as the flexible connection between the engine and the Frame.
you know this is a race car for Jolene right? and engine "flex" ? it has like under 250 ft lbs of torque and will not rotate on its engine mounts more than 1/4 inch it will be just fine.
If the motor is on rubber at the water pumps and out back, isn’t that bracket going to suffer some fatigue from being mounted rigid between the motor and framework? I like the attachment to the bell housing. But I’m not sure about the bolt going to the square tube…
yes all can do it years ago i alone in one night put a69 3 speed 350 and a richmond 410 or 11 in and gears monster cam little 650 double pumper and no one would ride in the truck thx for the memories
Nate did a good job on that clutch set up but the only thing I think your gonna get is motor noise thru the parts that’s bolted from the two bell housing bolts to the square bar tubbing on your floor pans you don’t ever bolt any brackets from the motor to the body of any car that’s why the motor is mounted in rubber most of them clutch arms are always mounted on the frame to bell housing only the ball from the old clutch set up you should of reused it over again so if the motor needs flex nothings binds up and your gonna be adjusting your clutch pedals every time you turn around if you still have the ball I would use it that stud will work but the balls is better I would of your going to get a lot of noise thru your pedals and floor with that mounted to the floor know this I have been building trucks and cars for over 45 years that needs to be mounted to the frame only the motor will throw sounds like you will not believe thru that floor board not being rubber mounted Chad if I was Nate I would run a bracket from the frame to that church brace he made and don’t keep it bolted to the fire wall square bar your using for the floor framing it will need to be changed later if not now just trying to help take care bro
Wizards don’t bolt the trans, engine bracket to the frame. The engine and trans have rubber mounts for movement. His bracket is a direct conflict with quickly fail.
Nate is a mechanical genius , who has the ability and skills to design and build a workable clutch assembly for the old 1933 Plymouth Coupe. Well Done Nate !!!
But he's not a "mechanical engineer"... and fabricating a bracket does not make him one.
Strengthen the main bracket which connects to the bellhousing, Cut off the side bracket that goes to the frame or there is disaster ahead when torque is applied.
Yes the engine rotates on the motor mounts under heavy load and the extra bolt to the frame will get stressed heavily. Something will break!!! Find another way to stabilize the bracket so you can remove that connection to the frame!
@stephenk79-rc1il with a coat hanger too 😂
@@stephenk79-rc1il The problem will be obvious from the get go with bad vibrations. But what will break? Who knows. It will be the 'weakest link in the chain'.
Right... because Nate is NOT a "mechanical engineer.".. and it's joke claiming "mechanical engineering at its finest".
@@metaphor4539 it rotates maybe 1/4 inch that bracket and linkage will be fine..
The engine and transmission are rubber mounted but the clutch assembly is solid...not going to work very well.
Nate is the wizard. He puts his mind to it with what they have and going for it. Thats awesome. Great job Nate.
Nate is the star of the show! He is what brings the dreams to reality! Nice work !
Engine flex is why the original stud had a ball on it so it could pivot and not bend
Greg, you are right. Some people just don't read to why the z bar has a ball on the ends
There hooked to motor it will move-with motor
Oops I did not see that last bracket it must go or made to flex.
I had a Valiant Charger, clutch set up the same ,when the engine moved to much like Reverse to 1st while still rolling, 😂 and it had a longer slide than that one ,all the best to you all
Nate is the man !
Just a question., With the engine mounts installed with the normal stock rubber shock style mounts, it would be normal for the engine to torque or twist slightly when accelerating. The new clutch bracket creates a "hard" point tied to the square tubing that will have to absorb that torque. In racing applications, a much stronger system is used to prevent such a twist. Is the square tubing strong enough or appropriate to absorb the torque/twist without cracking or bending with time?
Now just put a bellcrank throttle linkage on it and put the track safety crew to work.
Nate the only issue that I see with the Clutch assembly is the tie to the firewall frame as the engine will move with normal acceleration and end up cracking the firewall.
did the same thing to an old jeep worked great, nice work Nate and great video Jolene
Love ( ❤ ) the bonus episodes Jolene thanks for sharing......🔥🔥🔥❤️👍🏽💯......Nate = Mechanical Engineering Wizard......🤔
Looking at this design and only concern is that unless the engine is solid mounted it will tear the bracket off the frame to engine.
Nate is a magician when it comes to getting things to work
Nates ability to see and work in 3D is a great asset to Chad.
Hey Team Hiltz, Nate is quite the mechanical engineer when it comes to building the cars!
What is going to happen to the bracket when the engine goes under load ? Won't the engine want to twist and the clutch bracket is bolted solid , not rubber mounted. I think something is going to break.
Probably...but it's "mechanical engineering at its finest". 😅
Amazing!! Nate without any drawings “eyeballed” & made this part….Well Done, Nate.
When the engine is running, the vibrations are now going to the frame. There should be a flexible connection.
This fabrication is a great example of the spirit of hot rod custom assembly. Engineering what you need. 👍
Nice job, Nate
that bracket bolted to the frame is also going to send engine vibrations right through the vehicle
Great idea Nate, you’ll figure out your way around the torque problem as you move along. Would definitely want you on any build I was doing. Your thought process is what makes a great hot rod builder. 👍👍🇨🇦
Clutch linkage is perfect will work like dream great work NATE and Jolene recording it.
Waaaaay to go Nate!!!!!!!!! Making things work perfectly. Jolene will brake speed records at Pine Tree!!!!
Right... until under load and SNAP. "mechanical engineering at its finest"... NOT.
Good morning miss jolene, will you please ask nathan and chad why the clutch bracket is attached at the square tube? Correct me if i'm wrong the square tube is part of the flooring and pix or welded at the chasi, while the engine have engine support, i think the clucht bracket will tear because of the vibration of the engine , obet from phillippines✌️👍🙏
Install a simple hydraulic clutch slave and master cylinder assembly and the job is done. Did that on my 1930 Bentley Blower Special.
Just want to say hi to everyoneand hope you all had a nice day,Nathan you are the man.God bless and have a blessed evening
Nate is a true asset. 😊
Worth your weight in gold Nate. What a great addition you and Doug are to the Hiltz team. Cheers from Australia
>This is mechanical engineering at its finest
Right. Maybe it would help if you knew what mechanical engineering actually is... and it's not just fabricating some metal bracket.
"Mechanical engineering is the study of physical machines that may involve force and movement. It is an engineering branch that combines engineering physics and mathematics principles with materials science, to design, analyze, manufacture, and maintain mechanical systems."
VERY COOL!!!! THANKS FOR SHOWING US HOW IT'S DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LLOYD.
Nate you are an engineering mastermind! Just wow.
Hats off to you Nate!!!!!!
I stand by my comment..you have a solid link between the engine and body/frame this will cause noise, vibration, metal fatigue, stress, fracture, failure..also the straight shaft pivot not a good idea, any flex from engine movement or clutch pedal force will cause the system to bind..that is why the stock system utilized a ball pivot..solution: design a clutch lever that bolts directly to the trans fork shaft.. similar to Ford part number 18-7511..pictures sent to Chad.. enough said on this subject..
Great stuff, love these videos. There is a reason why you call him the wizard haha. But he is very mechanically inclined, he is a keeper hahah. Thanks and take care
You do a very good job showing everything way to go love it
Talent by the truck load. and addictive to watch.💯
Good one Nate 👍 Go for it Team Hiltz 👁 🐅 👌
That bracket for the clutch being fixed to the firewall and engine may cause vibration but don't mistake me I love your work
Don't forget that engine will twist when you load it up possible. Bend that bracket
That is fastened to the frame. Torque flex will interfere with it, am I right?
I'm telling ya that Nate is amazing..
Oregon approves 100%
Nate is a natural mechanical engineer
No he's not. I doubt he could calculate the loads involved... which is what a mechanical engineer does. ;)
Hahahahah no kidding
Enjoying your videos. A lot packed into a small package. Nice work Nate and a real cost savings for the project.
Nate is a Baaaad man, he would be an asset to any custom car shop.
Nice job Nate and Chad. Thanks for sharing with us.
Super stuff Nate! Well explained...👍
LOOKING GOOD WIZARD!
I like the clutch set-up. Gonna be a beautiful car.
Great bit of engineering. The question I have, is the engine now solidly attached to the floor pan where any engine movement that is dampened by the moujts will flex the floor pan till it breaks. Just asking so a damper can be included in the clutch attachment,
When Chad and Jolene head to the races at Pine Tree , Super Nate should go along as Chief Mechanic for the Team Hiltz Race Team , to the old 1934 Plymouth Race Car running well on the race track. Jolene is going break the track speed record. With some pre-race shakedowns and practice.
Awesome thinking but may have a problem when the engine flexes as it’s solidly attached to the floor
WOW!!
This one is awesome by Nate❤❤
Awesomely engineered ❤
The backet supported by three points, Well done! That's why they call it Fabrication!
Nathan is a Genius the way he can make parts from scratch and make it look like it was a factory manufactured part 👍 every time he makes something it blows my mind mechanical wizard👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Genius don’t bolt the trans, engine bracket to the frame. The engine and trans have rubber mounts for movement. His bracket is a direct conflict with them, it will quickly fail.
Nate is good. I think similarly and find ways to make things work.
Hey guys ..you can’t do that. You just bolted the engine to the frame..the engine and trans have rubber mounts for flex..what are you doing!!
Oh but they can and did it will be fine I did the same, the engine has like 1/4 inch movement.. it will be fine
1/4 inch is too much , it will break and make a noisy vibrating body .
They didn't actually bolt it to the frame. They bolted it to the body. If they are putting rubber body mounts on it it will move as well.
You have a great point but then again this is not their first rodeo , I think they will catch this soon enough, it still building stages, they have to start somewhere. Take care, it is a good point, I have to keep an eye on this.
I stand by my comment..you have a solid link between the engine and body/frame this will cause noise, vibration, metal fatigue, stress, fracture, failure..also the straight shaft pivot not a good idea, any flex from engine movement or clutch pedal force will cause the system to bind..that is why the stock system utilized a ball pivot..solution: design a clutch lever that bolts directly to the trans fork shaft.. similar to Ford part number 18-7511..pictures sent to Chad.. enough said on this subject..
I have a suggestion for a bad Chad please see that he gets this I have swap some bodies before on different projects I've had I find the easiest way to get the body on is to buy four lolly columns that are adjustable get four truck used drums well the post to the drums then get four bumper jacks and where the post separate weld the bumper jack so it lifts the post top section then you can use 4x4s through the windows to jack the body up and then you roll the chassis underneath this is great cuz you can lower and lift up the body without any struggle and trim excess metal away at your leisure The amount of body swaps and stuff like that you guys do you should have these you can make them out of basically scrap check it out Jolene see if he likes that idea
Awesome work Nathan.
✌️ Peace
Is the engine mounted rigid? If it has any movement, it will break that bolt off!
CHAD YOU need to keep Nate around between you and him y'all can build anything
That coach bracket is great!
Nate has a way of figuring out how to make things work.
Y'all Aussies are a trip.
Dear Nate, what about when the engine viberate in the rubber mounts?
Jolene, a project update video would be good. What’s needed for the various projects to proceed. The Bugatti update would be a popular video!
Nate is phenomenal
Engine is rubber mounted,but the clutch bracket is mounted to the chassis/floor.What happens when the engine moves.
Nathan is a great engineer to have around 😊
nice design Nate, , but don't know about that bolt on to the body structure with engine torque movement ?
Nate is the mechanical brain of this...operation? Yeah.
Nathan…It looks like you have Rubber Engine mounts. Now you have added a Mechanical connection between the Engine and the Frame. Not only will this be a problem when the engine tries to flex, but it will transmit engine vibration. This is why the clutch shaft is between the Engine and the Frame. Not only as the clutch pivot but also as the flexible connection between the engine and the Frame.
you know this is a race car for Jolene right? and engine "flex" ? it has like under 250 ft lbs of torque and will not rotate on its engine mounts more than 1/4 inch it will be just fine.
0l' Nate is quite capable of making anything work when you give him a few minutes, I'm quite impressed with his talent 👌
Nathan should have become a mechanical engineer.
He Chad awesome work everything you do,buy Nate a work bench,lathe and a milling machine.
Niiiice. Team work at its finest.
Truly a wizard Nate. What a team you got Jolene. ✌👍
Why would you fasten the engine and transmission to the floor, you are going to feel a lot of vibration.
remove that piece that attaches to the floor and attach it to the engine or bellhousing
Have to love "Nategineering" ! He makes McGuyver look like an amateur!
I cannot imagine what this would have looked like if Chad built it.
@@Alwhite1929 😂😂😂👍 would not be the same but he would have built it
If the motor is on rubber at the water pumps and out back, isn’t that bracket going to suffer some fatigue from being mounted rigid between the motor and framework? I like the attachment to the bell housing. But I’m not sure about the bolt going to the square tube…
Awesome, Thanks
Good engineering 👍
Does this have solid motor mounts? If not it does now.
Braquet need to go on transmission not on the floor Good job nate
love it as always thank you
Well done Nate!
What about the flex of the engine
isn't the original mounting the same?
Yea I can see something cracking eventually
Keep away from the difficult Chadwick. To technical for you
These 3 projects are just about done now. I wonder whats next?
yes all can do it years ago i alone in one night put a69 3 speed 350 and a richmond 410 or 11 in and gears monster cam little 650 double pumper and no one would ride in the truck thx for the memories
Nate is awesome
Nate knows hid shit
Good Work
Great job Nate! Come up to eastern shore for a weekend I got work for ya 👊🏻
Nate the Wizard
Now take the bracket to a machine shop so they can mill one out of billet aluminum.
Nate did a good job on that clutch set up but the only thing I think your gonna get is motor noise thru the parts that’s bolted from the two bell housing bolts to the square bar tubbing on your floor pans you don’t ever bolt any brackets from the motor to the body of any car that’s why the motor is mounted in rubber most of them clutch arms are always mounted on the frame to bell housing only the ball from the old clutch set up you should of reused it over again so if the motor needs flex nothings binds up and your gonna be adjusting your clutch pedals every time you turn around if you still have the ball I would use it that stud will work but the balls is better I would of your going to get a lot of noise thru your pedals and floor with that mounted to the floor know this I have been building trucks and cars for over 45 years that needs to be mounted to the frame only the motor will throw sounds like you will not believe thru that floor board not being rubber mounted Chad if I was Nate I would run a bracket from the frame to that church brace he made and don’t keep it bolted to the fire wall square bar your using for the floor framing it will need to be changed later if not now just trying to help take care bro
GREAT JOB !! Nate is sure a wizard when it comes to figuring our things...
Wizards don’t bolt the trans, engine bracket to the frame. The engine and trans have rubber mounts for movement. His bracket is a direct conflict with quickly fail.
Thanks