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  • @dracomenace
    @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +25

    *Q1 Is there a move that is stronger than 1200 bp?*
    *Q2 What ability will you buff, if you get a chance?*
    *Q3 Your favorite water type starter of all time?*
    (Team, Discord in description)

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My answers:
      1. Idk, you guys tell me
      2. Give liquid voice the 1.2x boost
      3. Swampert

    • @duckyandbunny6349
      @duckyandbunny6349 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Q1 Idk
      Q2 Turn Protean to normal again
      Q3 Greninja

    • @anyaforger844
      @anyaforger844 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      1-iirc there was a Power Trip shenigan but idr
      2-Run Away makes you able to Run from trapping
      3-Swampert, my first lvl 100 pokemon

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@duckyandbunny6349Protean (and libero) was done so dirty

    • @fishbakeditself1213
      @fishbakeditself1213 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      1. Defense Curl + Rollout/Ice Ball
      2. Run Away (Switch out if the opponent has super effective move)
      3. Swampert

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMario ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I once did a no capture playthrough where echoed voice was the move that swept the game. All it takes is two turns to start and its over.

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was totally AWE struck when I realized it's the pokemon theory legend himself, ProtoMario, thanks man for dropping by, you made alotta childhoods

    • @ProtoMario
      @ProtoMario ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@dracomenaceMuch love brosky

  • @environmental2117
    @environmental2117 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Dracomenace always finding ways to make every water type stronger than dracovish 💀

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Draco*wish* he was as strong

    • @pat1r1ck
      @pat1r1ck ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@dracomenacedracovish is the physical water, primarina is the special

    • @Frostipup2
      @Frostipup2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What's next, Luvdisc?

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenaceGenius.

  • @shadicald9309
    @shadicald9309 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rollout has a new challenger approaching.

  • @BarbersBorders
    @BarbersBorders ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cheetahs have severe anxiety,so some zoos give them emotional support dogs

    • @anyaforger844
      @anyaforger844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMAO thats the funniest thing ive seen today

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dog uplifting not just human moods but animals as well lol

  • @glitch9340
    @glitch9340 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    06:34 bro if he did expect a specs hydro he would've been a idiot cuz who the hell would put a choice item on a Mon that has sub

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Draco's Brain Farts be like:

  • @johnathandeleon357
    @johnathandeleon357 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dang when that tapu fini got OHKO
    I knew subbing was the best choice

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean the subscribe or the substitute? 😂

    • @johnathandeleon357
      @johnathandeleon357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenace both

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnathandeleon357 Thanks 😊

  • @TheStormRX
    @TheStormRX ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yoooooo i used to use that set when I played gen 7 as a kid

  • @314Pirasy
    @314Pirasy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7:20 tbf that was very lucky
    although he got the freeze he was fishing for on first tri-attack....

    • @314Pirasy
      @314Pirasy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      also 3:30 THAT'S WHY SHE'S THE *GOAT*

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Primarina for AG LET'S GOO!!

    • @314Pirasy
      @314Pirasy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenace ONLY MON THAT CAN DO A PRIMARILLON DAMAGE IN ONE BLOW

  • @j.9xxn
    @j.9xxn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Q1- Last Respects + Revival Blesssing bp is stupid
    Q2- Run Away: be able to switch regardless of the opponent's ability
    Honey Gather: restores 1/16 of the max hp in the end of each turn (leftovers ability basically)
    Illuminate: boosts move's accuracy to 1.3x (compound eyes but not exclusive for bug mons)
    Ball Fetch: if a ally lost/used his item in the last turn, in the end of the second turn, the owner of the ability will give the item back to the ally.
    (will only work if the pokemon with Ball Fetch is on the battle at the time the ally consumed or lost their item)
    Q3- Totodile, i love this little guy

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are some great ability buffs

  • @glitch9340
    @glitch9340 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For those who don't know he didn't even knew this move existed

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All thanks to that arceus guy lol

  • @oohlookapineapple3518
    @oohlookapineapple3518 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Please bring back the hidden gem series! There’s a lot of new Pokémon that could be great with loaded dice thanks to Home!

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I will be doing it

  • @fishbakeditself1213
    @fishbakeditself1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yay, early :D

  • @curtiswong1610
    @curtiswong1610 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For Q1 and 0:36, i can dely the fact its the strongest. Brambleghast is even more powerful than this set. I'll explain it later.

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to hear it out

  • @th3z00m2
    @th3z00m2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vids dude love your channel

  • @byzantine5761
    @byzantine5761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YOO Draco Menace upload?? it was so worth staying up until 5 AM now

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Woah, you were really up this early

  • @supratiknojaenudin7337
    @supratiknojaenudin7337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make video of primarina echoed voice with oranguru instruct in double battle?? Did the damage is raise at 1 turn?

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      At turn 1 it's 40 bp and increases after every turn, orangutan would make it a 2400 bp move

  • @anyaforger844
    @anyaforger844 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sheesh I wish Milotic had this kind of fire power too :(

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give her water bubble and she's set

    • @anyaforger844
      @anyaforger844 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@dracomenaceYeah extre fire resistance+burn immunity so that it wont be *burned* out and can deal damage too I WANT ITTT

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@anyaforger844Unfortunately it's banned even in AAA

    • @anyaforger844
      @anyaforger844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenace we need AA (any ability) frfr

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anyaforger844 That's pure hackmons (it's AA but a lot more)

  • @Cord_Virus
    @Cord_Virus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dracowish getting outshined by a mermaid is hilarious to watch.

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao true

    • @thequagiestsire
      @thequagiestsire ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sirens are absolutely terrifying, there’s a reason there’s so many sea stories about them

    • @xP1ut0
      @xP1ut0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Respect Dracovish

  • @B-me4nf
    @B-me4nf หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    didnt expect salt in this vid from that no hax guy but its pokemon showdown its a saltmine

  • @tytohbird
    @tytohbird ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Defense curl rollout hits 960 bp without stab or metronome
    With the same buffs you gave primarina, fisheous rend can hit 1530 bp (i think)
    Also tera fire flash fire metronome eruption heatran or typhlosion in sun can hit 1350 bp

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      This sounds interesting

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dracovish
      85 X 2 (moves first) x 2 (Tera Water) x 1.5 (Rain) x 2 (Metronome used consecutively) x 1.5 (Strong Jaw)
      1,530

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Heatran
      150 X 2 (Tera fire) x 1.5 (flash fire) x 1.5 (sun) x 2 (Metronome used consecutively)
      1,350

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy I realized with the ability, dracovish goes upto 1530 lol

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracomenace forgot about strong jaw, will update

  • @ekamjeet7069
    @ekamjeet7069 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mermaids are real!

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does prima even count as it's 100% fish while mermaids are half human half fish

    • @ekamjeet7069
      @ekamjeet7069 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenace I DON'T CARE ITS A MERMAID!!!!

  • @fishbakeditself1213
    @fishbakeditself1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:58 or Loaded Dice

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a hidden gem right there

    • @fishbakeditself1213
      @fishbakeditself1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenace have u tried loaded dice heracross??

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@fishbakeditself1213 Yes and here it is,
      th-cam.com/video/O4msfjhUHrs/w-d-xo.html

    • @fishbakeditself1213
      @fishbakeditself1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenace nice

  • @epplaonbap
    @epplaonbap ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Q1 : maybe fissure?
    Q2: run away, I think it should be able to make you immune to trapping moves and abilities
    Q3: gren

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the same for run away

  • @im_totally_human8216
    @im_totally_human8216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one of my friends got inspiried by u and made a channel with ur style but for a fakemon game

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh that's nice to hear, I would love to check his channel out, what's the name?

  • @curtis7998
    @curtis7998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:03 i knew it was gonna be a rough matchup for the other guy when he brought two mons quad weak to ferrothorn and heracross as his only grass resist

  • @oohlookapineapple3518
    @oohlookapineapple3518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Random question, why do showdown TH-camrs always make 10 minute videos?

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk about others but I always try to have my vids between 10 - 11 mins, it's kinda like a tradition for me lol

    • @shirshobanerjee7751
      @shirshobanerjee7751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It used to be 2-5 minutes, but If I had to guess everyone made it 10-11 for algorithm

  • @Light72505
    @Light72505 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always knew primarina was capable of great things

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Give it boomburst and It'll be a top tier mon

    • @EllipticalReasoning
      @EllipticalReasoning ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's sub + calm mind potential is pretty solid, it has enough bulk that it's hard to ohko and some things struggle to break sub and it's stab combination is really good.

  • @TheHcho
    @TheHcho ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey can you do balanced hackmons with boomburst pixiliate flutter mane? It would be great

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have actually used it one of my hackmon vids

    • @TheHcho
      @TheHcho ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What video?

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TheHchoHere, th-cam.com/video/Ec46s6EgEBI/w-d-xo.html

    • @TheHcho
      @TheHcho ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok,thank you

  • @bluntizard4481
    @bluntizard4481 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally, a water type that would be helped by Encore (actually in doubles you could even lock yourself into the move)

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Unless the encore user is a water absorber

    • @bluntizard4481
      @bluntizard4481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenace lolol yeah

  • @th3z00m2
    @th3z00m2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yoo first

  • @31.minhnhieua78
    @31.minhnhieua78 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Arceus can use Echoed Voice with 120 base speed :>

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone used that against my team in the prev to prev video

  • @GoldenPyrite
    @GoldenPyrite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could also do this with sylveon and misty terrain lol

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Misty terrain doesn't boost fairy moves

  • @ltn0310
    @ltn0310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how about echoed voice mega gardevoir it's stronger and faster than primarina

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds another fun mon, I'll definitely would love try it

  • @lamia820
    @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grandma is the best minecraft player

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fr? lol

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenace yes

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracomenace proof th-cam.com/video/hvHgIRayM8k/w-d-xo.html

  • @demetriusstephenson2236
    @demetriusstephenson2236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I should do this with pixilate sylveon in misty terrain

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Misty terrain doesn't offer boosts

  • @unknown443-dr1qg
    @unknown443-dr1qg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does pixi explosion Tera fairy iron valiant work too be stronger? As a hacked set of course

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      It would still be weaker

  • @maximilianomartincastrocor8883
    @maximilianomartincastrocor8883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok now i will use something similar on hackmons cuz funni

  • @squirtle3219
    @squirtle3219 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:02 BDSP Zapdos

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao, true

  • @xP1ut0
    @xP1ut0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Put respect on my goofy boy dracovish cuz all we do is click buttons

  • @DoinkDeetus
    @DoinkDeetus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:15 national dex greninja can spam echoed voice im pretty sure

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to try it

    • @DoinkDeetus
      @DoinkDeetus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracomenace tera normal protean or a battle bond for a less immediate 1 time boost to sweep

  • @callmecrimson4806
    @callmecrimson4806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, is that sp defence ferothorn? I thought it was phys defence at first, what?

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't matter, as prima 1v1s both no matter what

    • @callmecrimson4806
      @callmecrimson4806 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I meant yours lol. Not the opposing one, tho that one may have been too. Ofc the opposing one wouldn't matter much with the double scaling echoed voice lol.

    • @callmecrimson4806
      @callmecrimson4806 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just saw how well it tanked the special moves and how you switched it out in front of a few physical attackers

  • @Thelastjunkbot
    @Thelastjunkbot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These teams are getting out of hand☠️☠️

  • @syrex7076
    @syrex7076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't try this with trick room since she is slow

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Echoed voice doesn't go well with tr

  • @Mr.Boss57
    @Mr.Boss57 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really wanted to see this ability in action. If possible try some water type in AAA giving this ability.

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Is there any water type with boomburst? That would be amazing

    • @tayIorswif
      @tayIorswif ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@dracomenacepalafin lol

    • @notshockwavedemon7543
      @notshockwavedemon7543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tayIorswif Too bad it's a physical attacker.

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notshockwavedemon7543 100 spatk ain't shabby

  • @lamia820
    @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant comment for some days because iam going to my grandmother's village
    (No internet)

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope you have a good time there

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenace lol ofc

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracomenace but bad times too
      Flashbacks

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@lamia820Huh? Wdym?

    • @OmolonFluidDynamicsEnjoyer
      @OmolonFluidDynamicsEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenace We don't talk about *The Incident*

  • @nugrahadwianggoro
    @nugrahadwianggoro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Q2
    Immunity: now immune to all poison type moves, except if opponent has Corrosion as the ability
    Corrosion: now can attack steel type pokemon for neutral damage
    Grass Pelt: Double grass type damage and immune to paralyze (grass version of water bubble)
    Keen Eye: no accuracy drop and now all stab moves never missed
    Stall: always moves last but now also only take 60% damage
    Frisk: now halve most of opponent's item effects (leftovers and berries only heal 50% the amount, only 25% bonus stat from choice items, and HDB users take 50% of actual hazards damage upon switch in)
    Pickpocket: now can steal items using contact moves
    Nerf:
    Unaware: now opponents also ignore the pokemon's defense boosts

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1. I feel poisons don't need a nerf
      2. That's amazing, poison moves will become spammable
      3. Broken
      4. Amazing buff
      5. That's quite good
      6. I hope this doesn't go outta hand

    • @nugrahadwianggoro
      @nugrahadwianggoro ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dracomenace yeah change to grass Pelt is broken but so far only Gogoat has that ability and I really like that mon lol

  • @omefrfr
    @omefrfr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol i literally did this like 2 months ago except in doubles with blissey
    Ps: it wasn't half bad

  • @radvil
    @radvil ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Zapdos could never be bad"
    >BDSP and BW have joined the chat

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BDSP was just too cruel to it lol,
      Yeah BW was a defog less mera, so understandable

    • @radvil
      @radvil ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenace and Zapdos didn't have hurricane

    • @mosesbenjaminangelouy3153
      @mosesbenjaminangelouy3153 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You might as well change bdsp's last letter to "m" given how cruel it was to so many mons.

    • @radvil
      @radvil ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mosesbenjaminangelouy3153 wtf

  • @magnificentbuzz
    @magnificentbuzz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've tried this for ages with different tailwind and setups but it always ended up getting worn down or straight up 1 shot before it could really get going, much like rollout Scolipede 😮‍💨

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      I can understand, speed is a huge factor