Even though the Galaxy Book 4 Edge has the more power X Elite chip, I'd probably go for the Surface Laptop 7 as it's the better PC when talking about value for the money. I'm loving that Windows is into the ARM game full-time.
Although this is similar to the Apple M1 time, people needs to understand how Apple and Windows have totally different types of relationships with its platform developers. Apple have a much more tight and powerful control over its MacOS/iOS developers than Microsoft. On windows 99% of the apps that people uses are not from some kind of app store. Also Apple has a number of Mac models where Windows developers have to work with 100+ variations of devices and hardware's, in turn it makes much harder to optimize the apps that can get the best out of it. And finally, the apple ecosystem have had ARM apps for its iOS and iPadOS for over a decade now. So, for those platform developers Native ARM apps are not that of a new thing, but on the Windows space its entirely new. Microsoft and the whole Windows ARM ecosystem needs at least a year or two to get these issues sorted out.
Not really. A macbook would be a much more mature product with superior CPU and GPU for an ultrabook. I see no reason why anyone would choose one of these over a Macbook especially as Mac prices have been discounted to close to these, and cheaper than the X Elite Surface Laptop. Maybe, you are just not keen on Apple despite it being a better product-then I would wait for AMD coming out in the next 2-3 weeks which will be altogether a better choice.
@@andyH_Englandit doesn't have a superior CPU as such. It beats the snapdragon in single thread but not multi thread. It's a perfect match for the macbook and the SD X Plus version has the best battery life on any laptop right now. If you mostly do light and medium tasks, such as writing, light/medium code compilation and other productivity tasks, this will last longer than any MacBook. So in that sense it is superior. It is also a Windows Laptop which means after some optimisations and software updates it will allow it to run the plethora of apps that are available on Windows such as many business apps, games, and so on. It's very serious competition.
@@King-Julz The MB Air only has four performance cores versus twelve on the X Elite so of course multi-core will be higher if you benchmark. But this is an ultrabook and as you highlight good for light work where you are unlikely ever to need more than four performance cores. Therefore MacBook 4 cores will be a lot faster than X Elite 4 cores. Of course, if you are doing more intensive workloads on a regular basis then comparing a 4P core CPU MacBook is ridiculous as users will instead buy a MB Pro 14 M3 Pro. Which is streets ahead. All academic as in three monthe we see the M4 MB Pros and they are significantly faster and better in single core CPU (>40%) and will also have more P-Cores.
@@andyH_England doesn't really matter core Vs core performance. You can only judge on what Apple and Microsoft offers you. Any variant of the Surface 7 will beat the Mac in multi threaded, there is no 4 core M3 or 3 core snapdragon. There is also no 8 core snapdragon so you must judge based on what is offered. In terms of software updates, the beta GPU has already dropped and fixed several issues regarding performance and issues with translating x64 games to arm. Games that didn't start, or perform as expected, now do. There is of course work to do, but I imagine it will be solved fairly soon. Most people don't even need the performance, and my point was for 90% of people, this laptop with the better battery life definitely is a strong alternative to Mac, which was the point you were arguing against. People want the laptop that does what they need it to whilst lasting the longest. You're looking at the best laptop for that right now. What the M4 brings, we'll see but then we could just argue to wait for SD X plus gen 2 next year... If you want a laptop right now, this is easily competing with the Mac.
5:10 it's actually not the problem, it's because of the anticheat that has issues with arm64 (their anticheat installs drivers and stuff) they have to optimise it. But great review, definitely one of the best on this laptop.
I purchased recently 13.8 inch version of this laptop with snapdragon X-Plus chip. Battery life is just awesome! And build quality is excellent. Dune color looks very nice in person. There is no fan noise and neither gets hot. Runs cool. There are no intake air vents on back side of the machine and hence it seems truly works as a lap-top. Display is excellent. Audio is loud, clear and soothing. One of the best PC hands down based on my experience using many machines so far with amazing form factor, long battery life, running cool and great experience with Display/Audio.
I feel bad for all tech reviewers. Always compare everything to Apple products. Windows users dont care about Macs! Mentioning them as reference tell ls Windows users nothing.
Hey man! While I do agree that Windows users dont care, you can agree that there are people that arent sure? Furthermore I think comparison is normal and natural tbh.
I think it's good to compare. If no one ever compared window laptops to macs, we wouldn't have these ARM chips available on windows. It's good that Microsoft are finally trying to catch up with apple, and the more people go on about it, the harder they'll try.
I use my primary personal laptop for streaming content, web browsing, email, photo processing, some light development, and either Mac or Windows will work for all of those things, so I like having the comparison. My work laptop is Windows, my personal is a very old MB Pro I need to replace. So this review is helpful, considering this or M3.
@@CallMeKJOSyea I’m struggling, everyone is telling me mac is the best and I should go with it but I really don’t want to so I’m trying to find a windows device that can compete
I correct the title for you: "Surface Laptop 7 After 1 Week - Should Intel and AMD worry!?" Regarding "MacBook Killer": for 95% of Windows Users Macs do not exist, so they don’t care whether MacBook is alive or dead!
Sounds like you have a bad unit. All the freezing and horrible battery life you are experiencing is crazy. WOW! If you are going to keep it I strongly suggest you have it replaced because your experience is absolutely nothing like all other reviewers.
@@Rusty01There is no confirmation that the devs for older X86 games will spend money recoding for ARM. I would say they won’t. Maybe not even new releases. So you will have to rely on emulation assuming that will work.
Amazing video! Keep it up. I am surprised by your battery results. 5 hours seems like quite little. I hoped it would be able to make 8 to 10 hours but seems not As far as video processing the apps are not transferred to Arm architecture so that will take some time. Lightroom and Photoshop are Arm native. It is vaguely similar to the time of Apple M1. It seems Apple did better job working with developers and had much more apps on launch day. Where are you based from? I thought XBox solved the geographic issue. Unfortunately it seems not yet.
ArtisRight has made some great reviews of these devices compared to Macs but only in photography and videography software. It was clear that the Windows on ARM devices are not suitable for either of these workflows at the current time. They may not work, perform badly or crash and burn. The truth is these are only viable ATM for media consumption and light workloads like office stuff, though devs are not far away from being supported.
You know I don't expect the average Joe to know but these people who call themselves tech reviewers and claim to not know why XYZ happened. You know it's Windows on arm and you know there are native applications and then there's applications that have to be emulated and for you to say you had a problem but you don't know why but clearly you are not someone I need to be listening to
Here's my review of the surface laptop 7 15: bought two units and neither could stay reliably connected to wifi. Returned both. Consider yourself warned. Could not stay connected for more than 5 minutes.
Despite the eagerness of YT creators, many paid to film sponsored ads, the truth is that these are a work in progress and if you want to avoid many frustrations, stay well clear. For techie types that love to dive in to beta products, Snapdragon laptops will be that challenge.
Very curious how you got 4-5 hours. My 11th gen intel yoga 9i 2 in 1 can get 9-10 hours mixed usage. Even reviewers who don't care about bringing the brightness down managed to get at least 7-8 hours, you probably have a faulty unit.
@@CallMeKJOS Most reviews have also done continuous use as well and have better results. Did you have it in recommended mode? If it's in performance mode on battery you'll probably have terrible battery life.
@@CallMeKJOS yeah i'd say it's faulty or inconclusive at best. Btw you're not the only one to have a faulty unit. Perhaps when drivers mature and the dust settles you can circle back on these units again. And or compare when lunar lake laptops arrives. Still great review.
why would apple worry? the people who buy macs will continue to buy macs. A lot of people despise Windows. And x86 emulation still isn't that great with the Snapdragon X.
Even though the Galaxy Book 4 Edge has the more power X Elite chip, I'd probably go for the Surface Laptop 7 as it's the better PC when talking about value for the money.
I'm loving that Windows is into the ARM game full-time.
yeah i got the base plus version and its honestly so great. It feels amazing and the battery life is better than the elite chip.
Although this is similar to the Apple M1 time, people needs to understand how Apple and Windows have totally different types of relationships with its platform developers. Apple have a much more tight and powerful control over its MacOS/iOS developers than Microsoft. On windows 99% of the apps that people uses are not from some kind of app store.
Also Apple has a number of Mac models where Windows developers have to work with 100+ variations of devices and hardware's, in turn it makes much harder to optimize the apps that can get the best out of it.
And finally, the apple ecosystem have had ARM apps for its iOS and iPadOS for over a decade now. So, for those platform developers Native ARM apps are not that of a new thing, but on the Windows space its entirely new. Microsoft and the whole Windows ARM ecosystem needs at least a year or two to get these issues sorted out.
It’s not a MacBook killer but it is a MacBook competitor.
Agreed
Not really. A macbook would be a much more mature product with superior CPU and GPU for an ultrabook. I see no reason why anyone would choose one of these over a Macbook especially as Mac prices have been discounted to close to these, and cheaper than the X Elite Surface Laptop. Maybe, you are just not keen on Apple despite it being a better product-then I would wait for AMD coming out in the next 2-3 weeks which will be altogether a better choice.
@@andyH_Englandit doesn't have a superior CPU as such. It beats the snapdragon in single thread but not multi thread. It's a perfect match for the macbook and the SD X Plus version has the best battery life on any laptop right now. If you mostly do light and medium tasks, such as writing, light/medium code compilation and other productivity tasks, this will last longer than any MacBook. So in that sense it is superior. It is also a Windows Laptop which means after some optimisations and software updates it will allow it to run the plethora of apps that are available on Windows such as many business apps, games, and so on. It's very serious competition.
@@King-Julz The MB Air only has four performance cores versus twelve on the X Elite so of course multi-core will be higher if you benchmark. But this is an ultrabook and as you highlight good for light work where you are unlikely ever to need more than four performance cores. Therefore MacBook 4 cores will be a lot faster than X Elite 4 cores. Of course, if you are doing more intensive workloads on a regular basis then comparing a 4P core CPU MacBook is ridiculous as users will instead buy a MB Pro 14 M3 Pro. Which is streets ahead.
All academic as in three monthe we see the M4 MB Pros and they are significantly faster and better in single core CPU (>40%) and will also have more P-Cores.
@@andyH_England doesn't really matter core Vs core performance. You can only judge on what Apple and Microsoft offers you. Any variant of the Surface 7 will beat the Mac in multi threaded, there is no 4 core M3 or 3 core snapdragon. There is also no 8 core snapdragon so you must judge based on what is offered. In terms of software updates, the beta GPU has already dropped and fixed several issues regarding performance and issues with translating x64 games to arm. Games that didn't start, or perform as expected, now do. There is of course work to do, but I imagine it will be solved fairly soon. Most people don't even need the performance, and my point was for 90% of people, this laptop with the better battery life definitely is a strong alternative to Mac, which was the point you were arguing against. People want the laptop that does what they need it to whilst lasting the longest. You're looking at the best laptop for that right now. What the M4 brings, we'll see but then we could just argue to wait for SD X plus gen 2 next year... If you want a laptop right now, this is easily competing with the Mac.
5:10 it's actually not the problem, it's because of the anticheat that has issues with arm64 (their anticheat installs drivers and stuff) they have to optimise it.
But great review, definitely one of the best on this laptop.
Fair
I like older games because I find they have better gameplay. Hitman, XCOM2, We Happy Few, Witcher 3... all of these play.
Nice review, that Dune color might be nicer than the sapphire.
What is your camera+lens setup? Your closeups look great.
@@artifintel thanks bro! I use a Sony FX30 with a sigma 18-50mm f2.8
Oled missing and keyboard light 😢
I purchased recently 13.8 inch version of this laptop with snapdragon X-Plus chip. Battery life is just awesome! And build quality is excellent. Dune color looks very nice in person. There is no fan noise and neither gets hot. Runs cool. There are no intake air vents on back side of the machine and hence it seems truly works as a lap-top. Display is excellent. Audio is loud, clear and soothing. One of the best PC hands down based on my experience using many machines so far with amazing form factor, long battery life, running cool and great experience with Display/Audio.
I feel bad for all tech reviewers. Always compare everything to Apple products. Windows users dont care about Macs! Mentioning them as reference tell ls Windows users nothing.
Hey man! While I do agree that Windows users dont care, you can agree that there are people that arent sure? Furthermore I think comparison is normal and natural tbh.
I think it's good to compare. If no one ever compared window laptops to macs, we wouldn't have these ARM chips available on windows. It's good that Microsoft are finally trying to catch up with apple, and the more people go on about it, the harder they'll try.
I use my primary personal laptop for streaming content, web browsing, email, photo processing, some light development, and either Mac or Windows will work for all of those things, so I like having the comparison. My work laptop is Windows, my personal is a very old MB Pro I need to replace. So this review is helpful, considering this or M3.
@@CallMeKJOSyea I’m struggling, everyone is telling me mac is the best and I should go with it but I really don’t want to so I’m trying to find a windows device that can compete
“ Why should you buy this over the M3 Macbook Air? ”
Because I grew up using Windows.
No one worries by whatever MS does. Their products apart from office apps are crappie.
The video quality is amazing. How is this channel only has 19k...
My time will come. Thanks for watching, Hassan!
@@hassan_ksu honestly. I'm happy watching his videos each time.
I correct the title for you: "Surface Laptop 7 After 1 Week - Should Intel and AMD worry!?"
Regarding "MacBook Killer": for 95% of Windows Users Macs do not exist, so they don’t care whether MacBook is alive or dead!
Fair!
Great review, love your chilled, no-frills style! It's way more relaxing than most of the other 'manic' reviewers!
Sounds like you have a bad unit. All the freezing and horrible battery life you are experiencing is crazy. WOW! If you are going to keep it I strongly suggest you have it replaced because your experience is absolutely nothing like all other reviewers.
@@williamcopeland2617 hm I guessed as much. But immediately I changed to chrome. It stopped freezing. I can inquire about getting a replacement.
One of the best surface laptop 7 reviews I've seen, thanks man! I would've gone for the silver but that dune color is growing on me
@@uraverageviewer787 yeah Dune was the best color for me.
Im wondering if data transfer from MBP to Surface is doable without renaming PDFs, files.
The issues u had with apex was due to it not being on windows for arm
@@Rusty01 yup!
@@CallMeKJOS yeah so it's not really the laptops fault, cause with time these things will be handled
@@Rusty01There is no confirmation that the devs for older X86 games will spend money recoding for ARM. I would say they won’t. Maybe not even new releases. So you will have to rely on emulation assuming that will work.
Amazing video! Keep it up.
I am surprised by your battery results. 5 hours seems like quite little. I hoped it would be able to make 8 to 10 hours but seems not
As far as video processing the apps are not transferred to Arm architecture so that will take some time. Lightroom and Photoshop are Arm native. It is vaguely similar to the time of Apple M1. It seems Apple did better job working with developers and had much more apps on launch day.
Where are you based from? I thought XBox solved the geographic issue. Unfortunately it seems not yet.
@@NighthunterNyx someone pointed out I might have a faulty unit so I'll check that. I'm in Canada.
ArtisRight has made some great reviews of these devices compared to Macs but only in photography and videography software. It was clear that the Windows on ARM devices are not suitable for either of these workflows at the current time. They may not work, perform badly or crash and burn. The truth is these are only viable ATM for media consumption and light workloads like office stuff, though devs are not far away from being supported.
Hell nah. Returned this and got a MacBook instead. Not looking back.
You know I don't expect the average Joe to know but these people who call themselves tech reviewers and claim to not know why XYZ happened. You know it's Windows on arm and you know there are native applications and then there's applications that have to be emulated and for you to say you had a problem but you don't know why but clearly you are not someone I need to be listening to
@@wordlv sorry sir.
Not a fan of the high gloss reflective screen.
Update everything. Edge, Windows and system apps through Microsoft store.
System and edge are up to date. Still froze.
Your 4 hrs battery life seems bad. while other videos are claiming 2 days battery life. im confused now.
Apparently I have a faulty unit
Nice review! Thanks.
@@niuben003 thanks for watching bro!
Here's my review of the surface laptop 7 15: bought two units and neither could stay reliably connected to wifi. Returned both. Consider yourself warned. Could not stay connected for more than 5 minutes.
Despite the eagerness of YT creators, many paid to film sponsored ads, the truth is that these are a work in progress and if you want to avoid many frustrations, stay well clear. For techie types that love to dive in to beta products, Snapdragon laptops will be that challenge.
What about installing non-ARM based apps and programs, will it work? Does it have the same emulator as MAC had when launched M1 ?
i'll do this and get back to you
Edge has always worked for me. It must be the ARM interpretation.
Probably. I was proper annoyed!
Windows OS is horrible. I wish same device with chrome os or mac os .
Windows is dope bro! The Foundation for a lot of things
Not a macbook killer, more of a m1 competitor, Not on a m4 level.
Fair enough
M1 is good enough tbh
Very curious how you got 4-5 hours. My 11th gen intel yoga 9i 2 in 1 can get 9-10 hours mixed usage. Even reviewers who don't care about bringing the brightness down managed to get at least 7-8 hours, you probably have a faulty unit.
@@eds464 continuous use I guess. Wanted to see how long it'll last for.
@@CallMeKJOS Most reviews have also done continuous use as well and have better results. Did you have it in recommended mode? If it's in performance mode on battery you'll probably have terrible battery life.
@@eds464 yeah bro recommended mode. That is weird.
@@CallMeKJOS yeah i'd say it's faulty or inconclusive at best. Btw you're not the only one to have a faulty unit.
Perhaps when drivers mature and the dust settles you can circle back on these units again. And or compare when lunar lake laptops arrives.
Still great review.
@@eds464 fair enough. Thanks for watching bro
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Crazy that Microsoft Edge causes a Microsoft laptop and OS to crash.
What happened to the Arm processor?
Great vlog.
It's actually crazy! 😂
Nothing is a macbook killer. They are in a league of their own..
Fair enough
It's definitely not the MacBook Killer
@@bandit8708 what did it for you?
Surface better than 1.000 macbook.
@@ahmatsulkan9374Stupid
But it’s a Macbook Air killer
Guy makes a statement but can't back it up. I smell an apple fan boy .. smh
Thoughts on the durability of the floating screen design? The slight give is somewhat concerning.
why would apple worry? the people who buy macs will continue to buy macs. A lot of people despise Windows.
And x86 emulation still isn't that great with the Snapdragon X.
Emulation is pretty solid