Something to note, in terms of probabilities and risk management, it is probably wise -not- to max the meta fusions while you are still producing a new one, because having them available gives a chance to avoid a scenario where the choice results in none of the things that will allow for the combination to occur. This is only during the "higher risk" segments, mind you. When there is an open slot and we are trying to force a specific interaction. If we "max" a fusion, it can no longer be part of the choices, and it is possible to end up with 3 choice we do not want, having a fusion as an option is a safety net.
According to the dev post about the Prism system to get a fusion you just need two fragments at +5, and then it's guaranteed to drop. They also specifically point out that any levels past +5 are wasted.
thing is, if you feed the fragments and get them all to slot, they like to overpower even the chance for a combined fragment, you will probably have to get full 10s up until you get to that last combination and it gives you the third option.
Just in case you didnt know, to get mythic fragments you have to do it in an apoc world. Doesnt matter if its adventure, just have your ward 13 in apoc
The one thing I'd probably suggest for everyone: Make 1 ranged, 1 mod/status, 1 skill, and 1 support. This way when you make a build you always have these on-hand
Finally getting back to Remnant 2 and this system made me feel like a moron, not self explanatory in game at all. I waited to do anything with Prisms until I looked it up and this was the only guide I needed. Great video and congrats on the sweet prism!
Cool video, helped me a lot! I like to think of the gems as playing vampire survivors, picking and choosing skills (weapons) to fuse selecting ones that will combine to increase the amount you can carry overall
Thanks for this guide. I'm a little late to the party but this is super helpful. I've found there's a good bit of flexibility to the leveling and targeting fusion/resets asap is exceedingly helpful when it comes to xp as the amount of xp needed to level up increases progressively so focusing on one fusion at a time to get all of the ones you desire is a good idea. That said that 4th fusion where you only have 1 weighted fragment left is an like rolling dice at a casino risky.
The devs said in today's patch notes that they will add a way to only reroll the legendary effect in a future patch, as well as some balance changes to the whole system.
You honestly don't NEED to feed mythics...if you feed multiples of anything below mythic, it will fill up the white bar to max...giving you a maxed out affix ...its for peeps that want to utilize the prism to its max but hate high difficulties... Also, you only need +5 to each affix that will fuse...then there's a high chance for the fusion to show up
So what you should have done, is left the fusions as low level as possible. Leveled up the ones that were not fused to level 5 so you can fuse them, and once you have open slots, if you don't get the new one you need, then at least the fusions are IN the que to be possible choices to level up, so essentially a reroll for the one your missing.
Even with this trick it can still show you 3 random (that you didnt feed to the prism) unwanted fragments and ruin the whole process, even if you used mythical fragments.
@@supremebuffalo6322 I never said it wouldn't - But doing it the way I mentioned, your chances are drastically less to get a random one, over ones your already leveling. If you leveled them max, they are no longer in the pool. Example.. leveling up picks 3... if you have a pool of 20 traits with 10 you don't want vs a pool of 15 traits with 10 you don't want, your odds are your less likely to get ones you don't want, over ones you do.
Great breakdown. Thanks alot for this. Finally can understand it even tho ill probably wont grind this out. Theres some op builds even without this i think
Started today. Used Losomn Sanatorium farm with Miasma Ritualist/Warden build. Took longer for the first fusion, but it was rolling after that. Fusions in same order as your vid. Working on last one now. This is taxing. The devs need to give us a double XP weekend. 😅
Since this is the first actual good guide I found about prisms I have a few questions: 1) is there a difference between the 3 prisms? 2) can you swap them between different loadouts or are they capped at 3 max per character (so that they don't change with the loadout since are a "separated" skill tree) 3) since boss rush seems to be the best way to get xp what's the best difficulty to challenge? Since what I saw Apoc doesn't give that much of a bonus + it can be though sometimes Still thanks for the vid because I had absolutely no idea on how this system actually worked lol
There are some rumors that different prisms favor different fragments and legendary powers but nothing confirmed. You can swap prisms with different builds they are completely separate. You can have up to 7 different prisms but people are not sure how to unlock them The best difficulty for boss rush is by far survivor as it goes by much quicker and the difference in xp is very small
@@Mr-Nacho420 yes, I assumed that different prisms may have different % of favoring different perks. Everything aside, rn I don't know how I feel about this new system, mainly because feeding fragments (and getting them back) seems like another grind that could have been avoided since at some point you'll run out of materials to get them. I'm really glad I discovered your channel, I already seen that you also made a video for a boss rush build, I'll get to it as soon as I finish the DLC.
@@Fabbbio1001 thanks I appreciate it. Hope you have good luck with rolling prisms and from what I've heard a lot of people are complaining about the amount of grind and RNG so maybe the devs will change it a bit
Great guide, I kinda wish you shown the difference in damage on the test dummies without and then with the prism. (I know its high but seeing those rolls in action would have been nice!)
Awesome info! Breaks down very easily. Still not in love with the insane RNG for legendaries but what can you do. Is boss rush the most efficient farm method right now?
Thanks! I am also not a fan of how hard it is to obtain and how RNG heavy it is but I cant change that. The most efficient way is the 19 boss bossrush run. If you do it then you are like 1/3 way there I think.
@@NightDemon115 you do get a fair xp multiplier from the difficulty but be personally. I would do the easier difficulty just for comfort and consistency. But if you are extremely confident in your build then take advantage of the bonus difficulty points
Wiki says a prism requires roughly 1,350,000 if you don't do any fusions. Since you get 95,000 experience on a survivor gauntlet and runs are usually about an hour, that means you need almost 15.5 hours to max level a prism without fusions. Mr. Nacho, does that feel about right from your prism experience?
@@ery Ngl I'm trying to get into it. But so far this Prism bs has kinda put me off the game. If you don't have thousands of Relic Dust stockpiled up then you're shi outta luck
@@Mr-Nacho420turn clock ahead an hour in game...quit out to menu...go back in and copy top symbols....turn clock back to normal time...quit out through options...go back in...enter code below...boom
@Mr-Nacho420 if you haven't already, the solution is to look at the code and roll your devices clock back one hour. The code shown is the code for the last hour.
Awesome Informative Explanation mate! Here's a thought that occured to me. What if you *(and I know people prob gonna dislike the idea, as it destroys the rng thing)* just before you hit lvl 51 *(And by that I mean, to make sure you are still lvl 50, and only need a fraction of xp, to hit lvl 51)* , you back up your save file. Feed prism to get lvl 51, and check the legendary prism buffs. Ye don't like it, restore backed up save file, and feed again, to see if you got the desired legendary. I'm pretty sure once you hit lvl 51, it will *safe* the 3 legendary prism buffs for the choice into the save file to prevent this exact idea of overcoming rng god by backing up save files. So to overcome THAT, you simply make sure you are missing a fraction of xp, before hitting lvl 51 for the legendary prisms to roll into the save file. At the very worst, they'll probably just save the 3 legendary prisms at lvl 0, to prevent overcoming the rng gods when backing up save files. Hope that ain't the case tho. Just pointing that out, because there's over. 40. legendary. prisms. According to the devs. And you only get to choose 3 of 'em. So to me, that sounds like a reeaaally low chance to get what you want for the amount of grinds you need to do. Like you displayed, that's a REALLY BIG grind especially with the 4 fusion prisms. Haven't gotten to test it yet, as I myself got to reach lvl 50->51. That's the kind of rng that would fit an mmo, not an action rpg soulslike. But yea, great breakdown!
Also from what I'm hearing the legendary perk is not extreme RNG it is actually (seeded RNG) the final lvls put in your prism will help skew the odds of getting the legendary you want for example I'm hoping to get double mod charges so I'm hoping mod dmg mod regen being the last perk I lvl to max will help that legendary appear
It's a little bit of a bummer that there are so few fusion combinations. I was kind of hoping that the prism would enable hybrid builds that didn't work before, like Gun/Mod or Skill/Melee. It seems that the only hybrid builds the devs want us playing is Skill/Mod or Ranged/Melee.
Yeah and on top of that there is one that reduces the charge time and reduces heat buildup. There is only one weapon that can use it and that's corrupted cube gun which is hardly a popular weapon
@@trainedorphan9640the first shot is considered a charge (and can be used with Closed Loop) though subsequent shots aren’t You can just ‘tap’ fire to make every shot a charge at the cost of a slightly slower fire-rate.
I feel like you're looking at the combinations wrong. you can still get Skill/Melee, but they will want to be fused with their own other fusions. Maybe not the penultimate combination of 9 fragments, but there is still some room to make things somewhat powerful.
So, im just gonna ask this here: When i got the warden archetype i noticed that wallace had 1 more question mark item. Anybody know what that is? I got every archetype, relic maxed out. Edit: its the jealousy prism.
what are you doing to grind xp? I don't think apoc is the best difficulty for boss rush cuz I only got a 15% difficulty multiplier xp bonus which is not much for how much longer it takes to kill bosses
You need to do it all over again so the most important part is that you get your fusions correctly. No matter what legendary power you get keep it as you will be able to reroll the legendary power in the near future as far as I know.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but just in case: If you want Dwell to give you Mythic Fragments set your world to Apocalypse then buy Fragments from him. I've been getting them that way and I think the devs increased the likelihood of them appearing via Dwell because it took me forever originally to get just one from him before. I'm going to add a bit of untested theory and say that Explorer may or may not help as well.
Thanks for adding this comment. I was very confused how people are able to get some many mythic fragments. I've played since release (not constantly) and have one managed to find one or two mythics out in the wild from repeatedly picking them up
Mr Nacho rolling the legendary perk he was looking for, and then mousing over the two bad ones, and I was like... 🙈🙈🙈 don't accidentally left click your mouse my dude!
Thanks for the guide. IMHO, Jack of All Trades is superior to Sharpshooter because it boosts ALL damage including Range Critical Damage and Weakspot damage by 45% whereas Sharpshooter only boosts Ranged Damage (excluding Range Critical Damage and Weakspot Damage which are separate) by a respectable 75%. What do you think? Did you test this out?
Great review! 😃 I thought it was gonna take a while before i could see the list of all fusions. I cant belive it 😮 We are not even 24 hours past the launch of the DLC and we got it. You are the first one who uploaded this info i guess. I have some questions if i may. Do you have the list of all legendary powers? Is there a limit of experience a prism can hold before i start upgrading it? Or i can collect xp in one go for all 50 levels and then upgrade it? Is there a differece between prisms? You have 3 of them i belive so far. How did you get the third one? I mean you get one when you start and you can buy one from Dwell. Thank you for a great breakdown! It is awesome! 🤗🙏
Thanks I appreciate it. So it seems like there are different prisms with different inclinations towards legendary powers but this has to be yet confirmed. You can store a lot of XP on a prism but it's not enough if you want to do the fusions you will have to keep revisiting it like I did in the video. And if you want to see all legendary powers go to remnant 2 toolkit website and click on create new build. There you will be able to select all legendary powers and see what they do!
great guide! but what should i do if i roll an enhancement that i dont need?for example i rolled 3 unwanted enchanments. i dont want none of them but it forces me to choose
You need to choose one of them. Then you have a choice to make, either flush the entire prism and start over or wait some time until they introduce a way to reroll a legendary and use a different prism in the meantime.
@@Mr-Nacho420 thanks for the fast reply . As lame as it can be ....I understand that since it's the last thing they do for remnant 2 ...they needed to add grind fest
@@SantaClausthereal I don't understand why they did it. The game was great, bossrush is fun first 100 bosses but then it gets kinda stale at least for me. It's only ever fun when I'm playing with friends
Great video! YOu mentioned you just buy the fragments at dwell? ive played a lot of this game, but mostly on veteran, and i almost have no fragments on Mythic quality, is buying the ones for relic dust the best farmign method?
To get mythic ones you need to have almost all archetypes on max level. Getting relic fragments is easy from dwell if you have enough relic dust. If not then the best way is to do boss rush or play the game normally
Now that Sharpshooter is nerfed to 60% and Jack of All Trades is nerfed to 40%, whould you say Sharpshooter is still the best legendary for this prism? or is Jack of All Trades the better option.
Dont use any materials, just level up a prism and you can pick a fragment between 3 randomly. You can buy a prism at the pan vendor or farm it on the new mode boss rush. The fragments drops just playing and killing elites or open chests randomly or you can buy them on the pan vendor for relic dust.
Just as @carlesgt93 said all you need is relic dust for relic fragments to feed to the prism. Other than that it requires XP (a ton of XP) to level up :)
The best way for now is to spam the hardest mode on boss rush as it gives about 100k XP and you need about 600-700k to fully level the prism with the fusions. Without fusions it's about 300k XP.
You could leave a few of them not max level so when your rolling that last perk for the 4th fusion if you dont get it you'll have a much better chance rolling something you atleast need...
What's the most efficient way to level prisms? Is the higher difficulty multiplier worth it? Or is doing the 19 boss gauntlet vs trial by fire the best?
19 boss gauntlets on Apocalypse is the best but only if you can do it reasonably fast. If for example you can do 2 survivor ones then it is tough to say.
Yeah you need to get them back. One way is to just buy from Dwell if you have enough relic dust. If not then doing boss rush rewards you with a lot of those too!
Started grinding yesterday and i've alrdy done 10 rerolls so far my best perk was master killer "multiplies weakspot dmg by 1.25x" I do about 30% more dmg with that perk but i'll keep trying to get better ones.
10 in one day? Literally how? I've done apoc gauntlets and only gotten 3 levels per entire run. And it took me 1H40M with a super easy and fast Havoc Form build. Huh??? Am I missing something?
@@Mr-Nacho420 that would be great! I managed to get the 100% dmg glass canon perk but i'm still looking for the 75% or 40% one so the grind continues. I kinda wanna make a prism for exploration on bigger maps do u happen to know if speed demon stacks with move spd relic shard or any other things that affect speed?
@@RezDK Speed demon is supposed to max out your speed so it shouldnt stack with any other movespeed increase. This game is kida buggy tho so noone really knows until its tested. Its great for party play tough to go speed demon/handler so you share speed with others.
@@Mr-Nacho420 apologies for the spam but i just happen to roll speed demon it shows +200% spd in advanced stats. When i add spd shard, items, gear, handler passive it goes up to +234%. From my testing both walking & sprinting does not seems any different so anything over 200% is just a visual change in numbers but doesn't actually change anything. Feel free to share that info.
Super informative and helpful video! Just curious, but about how much in-game time did it take you to go from resetting that fragment in the video, to the new one being fully leveled up with the max fusions and legendary fragment? including the grinding time of course?
That takes a ton of XP and I am not entirely sure how long it is but boss rush is the best way to do it so far. If you can slot in sage ring the yellow tonic and the scholar trait it goes by faster but you sacrifice a lot of damage or survivability for it. Best to play in group too!
What is the best way to fast level your prism? He mentioned boss rush but I the 19 boss version on veteran and only got like 4 levels. Is all the xp buff stuff applicable as well?
@@Mr-Nacho420 thanks for the reply. It seemed like you only get XP at the end or did it seem to affect the total gains if you had the buffs running the whole time? Also, does being in a party buff XP gains or just speed of clear?
@@deadcell9900 I think it just speeds up the clear but it can be a real challenge so if you go down then your party member can pick you up instead of instant loss
I didn't really have played this boss rush mode yet. Are the drop chances different for the fragments on the harder the difficulties or is it on all the same?
You can feed multiple of the same smaller ones to fill out the prism if you have enough relic dust to keep rebuying them from dwell. But doing it at +5 is the most efficient way
@@Mr-Nacho420 thanks for your answer, i will do this, even i think boss rush in apocalypse should be better for having lvl 5 ! Hope it is possible to reset the prism because i started to build it before know the best way for this …
@@Mr-Nacho420 Ya it seems like playing boss rush on veteran with a nice dps build isthe best way imo. the difficulty multiplier just isnt enough for any added time it tacks on. Though in a group that may be different, Ive just been running it solo with a easy archon build
So I’m guessing that it doesn’t actually matter what prism you use for leveling right? As in different prisms are essentially “loadouts” for you to craft for x build?
Finally i understand this process! Thanks you! I just started the game, i still don’t quite understand how the fragments works. It seems that they level up when i drop random fragments on mobs. Îm guessing fully upgraded they become mythic fragments. But how do you use Dwell efficiently? From what i could tell, he seems to sells randoms fragments, correct?
Yeah he does sell random fragments and to get the highest tier ones (mythic) you need to level up multiple archetypes to full (lvl10) so make sure that you are using and levelling multiple archetypes :)
If I want to do boss rush quick I just go with my quickdraw build usually but since they reversed the nerfs on miasma the ritualist/warden build is great too. Very low risk and chill gameplay
Are you certain those are all the combinations? As an engineer heavy weapon main I'm pretty pissed that they just completely overlooked this build type despite making the system so complicated
Question for you guys, can you get part of a fusion upgrade (i.e., skill cd after getting revitalize) after you already have the fusion? I am trying to stack skill cd so I can free up ring slots, but feeding relic fragments doesn't let me boost the skill cd odds again after getting the fusion. Edit: Didn't have time to finish video before I had to go and it answered my question.
I think you can't. You can only double up if it's one of the normal relic fragments you slot in and out. So you'd have 20% less cooldown in total. 10% from revitalize, and 10% for skill CD.
Is there a chance to reroll only the legendary?
Yeah they added that some time after I made this video :)
Are you making another video im so confused on how the prisms works i know i messed it up but should i cleanse it or buy another one from vendors
I finally understand this new “skill tree”. Great explanation, thanks for putting this together!
You're very welcome! Good luck with your rolls!
This is the fifth vid I watched before starting on my prism. This is definitely the best guide. Thanks my man. And sick pull on the last ability.
I appreciate it man. Hope you have good luck too! :)
this feels like im back listening to my chemistry 101 prof. explaining the course. this was very informative, Thank you Prof.Nacho
It will be on the test on Tuesday and it will affect your final score. :D
@@Mr-Nacho420 😂😂😅😅
Something to note, in terms of probabilities and risk management, it is probably wise -not- to max the meta fusions while you are still producing a new one, because having them available gives a chance to avoid a scenario where the choice results in none of the things that will allow for the combination to occur. This is only during the "higher risk" segments, mind you. When there is an open slot and we are trying to force a specific interaction. If we "max" a fusion, it can no longer be part of the choices, and it is possible to end up with 3 choice we do not want, having a fusion as an option is a safety net.
According to the dev post about the Prism system to get a fusion you just need two fragments at +5, and then it's guaranteed to drop. They also specifically point out that any levels past +5 are wasted.
Ok then, thanks for clarifying that! :)
@@Mr-Nacho420 wait what.. Isn't that what you said in the video? +5 is just Mythic right??
@@KUD4H They're talking about the fragments that are in the prism, the ones you level up with experience.
thing is, if you feed the fragments and get them all to slot, they like to overpower even the chance for a combined fragment, you will probably have to get full 10s up until you get to that last combination and it gives you the third option.
Mans tutorial'd us the new prisms system while simultaneously making the best prism he could. We got to witness his dopamine hit 😂
Yeah I was not expecting that at all :D it was some crazy luck
I watched several videos, and yours was the only one that made sense about the new prism system Remnant 2 😊
Just in case you didnt know, to get mythic fragments you have to do it in an apoc world. Doesnt matter if its adventure, just have your ward 13 in apoc
can i get it via fragments or do i have to kill things for the mythic?
@@sandymangamin7159 You can buy fragments on apoc and it will give you mythics, provided u have the lvl for it (I dont remember I think its 60?)
The one thing I'd probably suggest for everyone: Make 1 ranged, 1 mod/status, 1 skill, and 1 support. This way when you make a build you always have these on-hand
Gonna take 3 months for a casual player to get a perfect one but this would be a goal to have different ones for different occasions and builds
@@Mr-Nacho420 ye
Thanks, man for the demo on all this. Really appreciate it. I figured a good bit out last night, but you filled in some gaps for me!
Good luck on your rolls! Hope this helped :)
Finally getting back to Remnant 2 and this system made me feel like a moron, not self explanatory in game at all. I waited to do anything with Prisms until I looked it up and this was the only guide I needed. Great video and congrats on the sweet prism!
Yeah its quite complicated but if done well it gives a ton of power. :)
Cool video, helped me a lot! I like to think of the gems as playing vampire survivors, picking and choosing skills (weapons) to fuse selecting ones that will combine to increase the amount you can carry overall
This is a very helpful video for upgrading our prism. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
Thanks for this guide. I'm a little late to the party but this is super helpful. I've found there's a good bit of flexibility to the leveling and targeting fusion/resets asap is exceedingly helpful when it comes to xp as the amount of xp needed to level up increases progressively so focusing on one fusion at a time to get all of the ones you desire is a good idea. That said that 4th fusion where you only have 1 weighted fragment left is an like rolling dice at a casino risky.
Really appreciate you taking the time to create and share this video. Outta the park Nacho. Sub!
Thanks. I tried my best!
2:50 for the chart
Needs more likes, was about to comment the same thing lol
The bow involves taking a cap of the top code and then set clock back an hour and then use that code.
As of about 25 minutes ago, this also works on PS5
Thank for this video!!! Finally figured watching your video. I need to cleanse my level 51 prism.😌👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you for this vid man! that chart was exceptional info as well! I 100% understand prism now and all the aspects of it which I should strive for.
Glad it was helpful! Good luck with rolling your prisms ;)
The devs said in today's patch notes that they will add a way to only reroll the legendary effect in a future patch, as well as some balance changes to the whole system.
Yeah! Can't wait :)
So we can expect some nerfs probably, I hate to say it
They've done it now dude!
@@Mr-Nacho420its come out now!
Best Remnant Yt Channel
Appreciate you buddy!
@@Mr-Nacho420 been watching u since the first remnant 2 videos, u always bring me back to this amazing game, much love for u
You honestly don't NEED to feed mythics...if you feed multiples of anything below mythic, it will fill up the white bar to max...giving you a maxed out affix ...its for peeps that want to utilize the prism to its max but hate high difficulties...
Also, you only need +5 to each affix that will fuse...then there's a high chance for the fusion to show up
if i feed flawless rune fragment i can still get the one that i need or is very low to get it?
So what you should have done, is left the fusions as low level as possible. Leveled up the ones that were not fused to level 5 so you can fuse them, and once you have open slots, if you don't get the new one you need, then at least the fusions are IN the que to be possible choices to level up, so essentially a reroll for the one your missing.
Even with this trick it can still show you 3 random (that you didnt feed to the prism) unwanted fragments and ruin the whole process, even if you used mythical fragments.
@@supremebuffalo6322 I never said it wouldn't - But doing it the way I mentioned, your chances are drastically less to get a random one, over ones your already leveling. If you leveled them max, they are no longer in the pool. Example.. leveling up picks 3... if you have a pool of 20 traits with 10 you don't want vs a pool of 15 traits with 10 you don't want, your odds are your less likely to get ones you don't want, over ones you do.
Thank you for explaining this !! I was randomly selecting options
Glad I could help!
Great breakdown. Thanks alot for this. Finally can understand it even tho ill probably wont grind this out. Theres some op builds even without this i think
So casual gamer friendly from the devs. Amazing...
Yeah that system is super grindy and RNG. Not sure why it is this way but nothing we can do I'm afraid
Started today. Used Losomn Sanatorium farm with Miasma Ritualist/Warden build. Took longer for the first fusion, but it was rolling after that. Fusions in same order as your vid. Working on last one now. This is taxing. The devs need to give us a double XP weekend. 😅
You are almost done with it! The hardest part is the fusions. After that you can reroll the legendary power very easily
Since this is the first actual good guide I found about prisms I have a few questions:
1) is there a difference between the 3 prisms?
2) can you swap them between different loadouts or are they capped at 3 max per character (so that they don't change with the loadout since are a "separated" skill tree)
3) since boss rush seems to be the best way to get xp what's the best difficulty to challenge? Since what I saw Apoc doesn't give that much of a bonus + it can be though sometimes
Still thanks for the vid because I had absolutely no idea on how this system actually worked lol
There are some rumors that different prisms favor different fragments and legendary powers but nothing confirmed.
You can swap prisms with different builds they are completely separate. You can have up to 7 different prisms but people are not sure how to unlock them
The best difficulty for boss rush is by far survivor as it goes by much quicker and the difference in xp is very small
@@Mr-Nacho420 yes, I assumed that different prisms may have different % of favoring different perks.
Everything aside, rn I don't know how I feel about this new system, mainly because feeding fragments (and getting them back) seems like another grind that could have been avoided since at some point you'll run out of materials to get them.
I'm really glad I discovered your channel, I already seen that you also made a video for a boss rush build, I'll get to it as soon as I finish the DLC.
@@Fabbbio1001 thanks I appreciate it. Hope you have good luck with rolling prisms and from what I've heard a lot of people are complaining about the amount of grind and RNG so maybe the devs will change it a bit
@@Mr-Nacho420 let's hope so✌️. I'll work myself to get 100% of items before actually letting go off the game
Wow, I am behind the curve on xp farming. Impressive videos and explanations!
Not really man. A lot of people are like level 20 on their first prism. It just takes a lot of time dont worry
once I got all the relic dust I needed, I gave up on the boss runs -
morrow sanitarium method = lvls 40-51 in a few hours (about 5 hrs)
Wow, good looking out! This is great information. Thank you for sharing.
Any time!
I go for jack of all traits. I like the invoker gunslinger combo.
Great guide, I kinda wish you shown the difference in damage on the test dummies without and then with the prism.
(I know its high but seeing those rolls in action would have been nice!)
The plasma cutter is between 12-14k DPS :D
Awesome info! Breaks down very easily. Still not in love with the insane RNG for legendaries but what can you do. Is boss rush the most efficient farm method right now?
Thanks! I am also not a fan of how hard it is to obtain and how RNG heavy it is but I cant change that. The most efficient way is the 19 boss bossrush run. If you do it then you are like 1/3 way there I think.
Does it matter if u run it on apocalypse or nightmare or veteran?
@@NightDemon115 you do get a fair xp multiplier from the difficulty but be personally. I would do the easier difficulty just for comfort and consistency. But if you are extremely confident in your build then take advantage of the bonus difficulty points
@@NightDemon115 the lower the difficulty the less XP you get
Wiki says a prism requires roughly 1,350,000 if you don't do any fusions. Since you get 95,000 experience on a survivor gauntlet and runs are usually about an hour, that means you need almost 15.5 hours to max level a prism without fusions.
Mr. Nacho, does that feel about right from your prism experience?
This is bloody good guide
Thanks! I really tried with this one :)
Is this ALL of the combinations that roll fusions perks? Or just the ones your found?
This is wild.
Let the 17 year grind begin boys 🤟
As far as I know these are all that exist
@@Mr-Nacho420 You should toss the link in description! just found the list today :)
@@Frost.7xx No status effect damage Fusion... Pain
@@KUD4Hik I was looking for that 🙃
@@ery Ngl I'm trying to get into it. But so far this Prism bs has kinda put me off the game. If you don't have thousands of Relic Dust stockpiled up then you're shi outta luck
The bow is a cypher that changes based on time of day on the cliff near where you get Warden but on the opposite side of the water
Yeah I know where it is but I am not sure how to solve the puzzle. I will figure it out tho!
Its based on a daily timer some dude made a video about it@@Mr-Nacho420
@@Mr-Nacho420turn clock ahead an hour in game...quit out to menu...go back in and copy top symbols....turn clock back to normal time...quit out through options...go back in...enter code below...boom
@Mr-Nacho420 if you haven't already, the solution is to look at the code and roll your devices clock back one hour. The code shown is the code for the last hour.
@@alexandervillalon9508 I did get it but thanks!
I love when you explain it like I'm five ❤
I just want people to understand :D
Nice work, I understand the grind now🤣
Good luck!
back up save before adding last single fragment and repeat for different legendary. it works i did it many times.
I think they will add a way to reroll legendaries today hopefully.
Awesome Informative Explanation mate!
Here's a thought that occured to me.
What if you *(and I know people prob gonna dislike the idea, as it destroys the rng thing)* just before you hit lvl 51 *(And by that I mean, to make sure you are still lvl 50, and only need a fraction of xp, to hit lvl 51)* , you back up your save file. Feed prism to get lvl 51, and check the legendary prism buffs. Ye don't like it, restore backed up save file, and feed again, to see if you got the desired legendary.
I'm pretty sure once you hit lvl 51, it will *safe* the 3 legendary prism buffs for the choice into the save file to prevent this exact idea of overcoming rng god by backing up save files.
So to overcome THAT, you simply make sure you are missing a fraction of xp, before hitting lvl 51 for the legendary prisms to roll into the save file.
At the very worst, they'll probably just save the 3 legendary prisms at lvl 0, to prevent overcoming the rng gods when backing up save files. Hope that ain't the case tho.
Just pointing that out, because there's over. 40. legendary. prisms. According to the devs. And you only get to choose 3 of 'em.
So to me, that sounds like a reeaaally low chance to get what you want for the amount of grinds you need to do.
Like you displayed, that's a REALLY BIG grind especially with the 4 fusion prisms.
Haven't gotten to test it yet, as I myself got to reach lvl 50->51.
That's the kind of rng that would fit an mmo, not an action rpg soulslike.
But yea, great breakdown!
I already tried that and it doesnt work. The legendary perk selection is tied to the prisms seed and it more or less pre determined from the start
@@Mr-Nacho420 Ye. Tested it myself. It's what I expected tho.
Excellent job my friend the other you tubers videos ,those are confusing as hell .
Thanks man I appreciate it a lot! I try my best :)
got it on my first try thanks for the vid and explanation
That is an extremely lucky prism my dude. You must be the chosen one
Also from what I'm hearing the legendary perk is not extreme RNG it is actually (seeded RNG) the final lvls put in your prism will help skew the odds of getting the legendary you want for example I'm hoping to get double mod charges so I'm hoping mod dmg mod regen being the last perk I lvl to max will help that legendary appear
It's a little bit of a bummer that there are so few fusion combinations. I was kind of hoping that the prism would enable hybrid builds that didn't work before, like Gun/Mod or Skill/Melee. It seems that the only hybrid builds the devs want us playing is Skill/Mod or Ranged/Melee.
Yeah and on top of that there is one that reduces the charge time and reduces heat buildup. There is only one weapon that can use it and that's corrupted cube gun which is hardly a popular weapon
@@Mr-Nacho420what part of the gun uses charge?
@@trainedorphan9640the first shot is considered a charge (and can be used with Closed Loop) though subsequent shots aren’t
You can just ‘tap’ fire to make every shot a charge at the cost of a slightly slower fire-rate.
@@genericyoutuber5533 oh, didn’t know that. That’s pretty neat actually
I feel like you're looking at the combinations wrong. you can still get Skill/Melee, but they will want to be fused with their own other fusions. Maybe not the penultimate combination of 9 fragments, but there is still some room to make things somewhat powerful.
So, im just gonna ask this here: When i got the warden archetype i noticed that wallace had 1 more question mark item. Anybody know what that is? I got every archetype, relic maxed out.
Edit: its the jealousy prism.
what are you doing to grind xp? I don't think apoc is the best difficulty for boss rush cuz I only got a 15% difficulty multiplier xp bonus which is not much for how much longer it takes to kill bosses
Yea if you can just blast through them on lower difficulties then go for that but bossrush is by far the best option.
Running through saviour is way more time efficient, similar XP
Hi nacho, does xp trait , ring xp and xp consumable increase xp earned on boss rush modes?
@@mdhgyfam4905 I think so but I wasnt able to confirm
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Hi but if you reset the prism to level 51 can you put the points back or do you have to do it all over again? Thanks in advance
You need to do it all over again so the most important part is that you get your fusions correctly. No matter what legendary power you get keep it as you will be able to reroll the legendary power in the near future as far as I know.
Great guide! One thing I was wondering is how did you level your prism to 51 immediately after cleansing? I did a cleanse and had to grind exp again
I had to grind it too. There is no way to save the XP when you cleanse unfortunately
@@Mr-Nacho420 Ahh dang, makes sense though. Thanks for the reply!
This is the video that I needed to see!
Good luck on your rolls! You will need it :D
Are you the same Nacho with builds posted on that Remnant build site? If so, those have been super fun to play so thanks for posting there!
Yeah that's me! :D
@@Mr-Nacho420 Nice! Looking forward to seeing what builds you geniuses cook up now with the new stuff 😎
Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but just in case: If you want Dwell to give you Mythic Fragments set your world to Apocalypse then buy Fragments from him.
I've been getting them that way and I think the devs increased the likelihood of them appearing via Dwell because it took me forever originally to get just one from him before.
I'm going to add a bit of untested theory and say that Explorer may or may not help as well.
Thanks for adding this comment. I was very confused how people are able to get some many mythic fragments. I've played since release (not constantly) and have one managed to find one or two mythics out in the wild from repeatedly picking them up
@@SobrietyLord
You're welcome.
Hopefully this helps you out in your future endeavors.
Thanks for making this man.
Do you know what I'll have to do from the start of a new prism to max chances to get Unbridled legendary?
There is unfortunately nothing you can do. It's pure RNG
Mr Nacho rolling the legendary perk he was looking for, and then mousing over the two bad ones, and I was like... 🙈🙈🙈 don't accidentally left click your mouse my dude!
Ah yeah that would have been tragic :D
Great video, Imma go and start over m prism, it's all over the place lol
Thanks alot for the explanation, Im very curious what build u used to farm this.
I posted my gunslinger build that I use for farming now. It's very good
Thanks for the guide. IMHO, Jack of All Trades is superior to Sharpshooter because it boosts ALL damage including Range Critical Damage and Weakspot damage by 45% whereas Sharpshooter only boosts Ranged Damage (excluding Range Critical Damage and Weakspot Damage which are separate) by a respectable 75%. What do you think? Did you test this out?
Yes I did and the sharpshooter is better here by quite a bit. It just does more damage
So helpful. Thank you so much!
Great review! 😃 I thought it was gonna take a while before i could see the list of all fusions. I cant belive it 😮 We are not even 24 hours past the launch of the DLC and we got it. You are the first one who uploaded this info i guess.
I have some questions if i may.
Do you have the list of all legendary powers? Is there a limit of experience a prism can hold before i start upgrading it? Or i can collect xp in one go for all 50 levels and then upgrade it?
Is there a differece between prisms? You have 3 of them i belive so far. How did you get the third one? I mean you get one when you start and you can buy one from Dwell.
Thank you for a great breakdown! It is awesome! 🤗🙏
It appears to be 7 slots on the prisms. I'm assuming one for each potential loadout save.
Thanks I appreciate it. So it seems like there are different prisms with different inclinations towards legendary powers but this has to be yet confirmed. You can store a lot of XP on a prism but it's not enough if you want to do the fusions you will have to keep revisiting it like I did in the video. And if you want to see all legendary powers go to remnant 2 toolkit website and click on create new build. There you will be able to select all legendary powers and see what they do!
@@Mr-Nacho420 , thank you! 🙏
great guide! but what should i do if i roll an enhancement that i dont need?for example i rolled 3 unwanted enchanments. i dont want none of them but it forces me to choose
You need to choose one of them. Then you have a choice to make, either flush the entire prism and start over or wait some time until they introduce a way to reroll a legendary and use a different prism in the meantime.
@@Mr-Nacho420 thanks for the fast reply . As lame as it can be ....I understand that since it's the last thing they do for remnant 2 ...they needed to add grind fest
@@SantaClausthereal I don't understand why they did it. The game was great, bossrush is fun first 100 bosses but then it gets kinda stale at least for me. It's only ever fun when I'm playing with friends
I am interested in the grinding part. Because man is it a pain and I know there were cuts but this made it look so easy lol
Yeah if you're on PC then you can mod it but on console the best way is to go do bossrush
Is there a list with all the possible legendary bonuses already?
Yes. Go to remnant 2 toolkit and check it out :)
Great video! What is the best way to get relic dust? It seems like you need so much lol
Good question! The best way so far is to just play boss rush. You get a ton of relic dust or random relic fragments from chests
@@Mr-Nacho420 Thank you for the quick response! Looking forward to future videos
They patched the hand dupe glitch which used to be the fastest way to get relic dust and really told us "go play pur new shitty game mode."
Great video! YOu mentioned you just buy the fragments at dwell? ive played a lot of this game, but mostly on veteran, and i almost have no fragments on Mythic quality, is buying the ones for relic dust the best farmign method?
To get mythic ones you need to have almost all archetypes on max level. Getting relic fragments is easy from dwell if you have enough relic dust. If not then the best way is to do boss rush or play the game normally
Best guide. Thanks!
Happy you like it :)
Hi, does exp concussion counts for the grind for the prism???? Thanks, great video
To the extent that ive tested it - Yes. But I am not sure since there are no values for XP given. It felt faster though
Now that Sharpshooter is nerfed to 60% and Jack of All Trades is nerfed to 40%, whould you say Sharpshooter is still the best legendary for this prism? or is Jack of All Trades the better option.
Still sharpshooter is the best for long guns
So glad to see this! What are we exactly using in terms of materials for all these rolls and re-rolls? lol, thx!
Dont use any materials, just level up a prism and you can pick a fragment between 3 randomly. You can buy a prism at the pan vendor or farm it on the new mode boss rush. The fragments drops just playing and killing elites or open chests randomly or you can buy them on the pan vendor for relic dust.
Just as @carlesgt93 said all you need is relic dust for relic fragments to feed to the prism. Other than that it requires XP (a ton of XP) to level up :)
@@Mr-Nacho420 best way to level up fast the prisms is the boss rush or there ara a better way?
The best way for now is to spam the hardest mode on boss rush as it gives about 100k XP and you need about 600-700k to fully level the prism with the fusions. Without fusions it's about 300k XP.
@@Mr-Nacho420 when you say hardest mode you mean the appoc difficulty or the max number of bosses mode?
The relics you feed to the prism, are they gone permanently and you need to rebuy them from the vendor? Or do they reset?
The ones I feed are gone and I need to get them back if I want to use them.
You could leave a few of them not max level so when your rolling that last perk for the 4th fusion if you dont get it you'll have a much better chance rolling something you atleast need...
Yeah that is actually a smart way to do it. Thanks!
What's the most efficient way to level prisms?
Is the higher difficulty multiplier worth it?
Or is doing the 19 boss gauntlet vs trial by fire the best?
19 boss gauntlets on Apocalypse is the best but only if you can do it reasonably fast. If for example you can do 2 survivor ones then it is tough to say.
Ive lost half of my Mythic fragments?! do we have to require them?
Yeah you need to get them back. One way is to just buy from Dwell if you have enough relic dust. If not then doing boss rush rewards you with a lot of those too!
@@Mr-Nacho420 ahhh ok so I wasn't losing my mind. thank you!
You leveled a lot! Are you doing boss rush for xp leveling? If so the 3, 7 or 19?
19 on survivor seems the most optimal to me.
Started grinding yesterday and i've alrdy done 10 rerolls so far my best perk was master killer "multiplies weakspot dmg by 1.25x" I do about 30% more dmg with that perk but i'll keep trying to get better ones.
Yeah its tought. I have heard tho that they will give us a way to reroll legendary perks without having to wipe entire prism
10 in one day? Literally how? I've done apoc gauntlets and only gotten 3 levels per entire run. And it took me 1H40M with a super easy and fast Havoc Form build. Huh??? Am I missing something?
@@Mr-Nacho420 that would be great! I managed to get the 100% dmg glass canon perk but i'm still looking for the 75% or 40% one so the grind continues. I kinda wanna make a prism for exploration on bigger maps do u happen to know if speed demon stacks with move spd relic shard or any other things that affect speed?
@@RezDK Speed demon is supposed to max out your speed so it shouldnt stack with any other movespeed increase. This game is kida buggy tho so noone really knows until its tested. Its great for party play tough to go speed demon/handler so you share speed with others.
@@Mr-Nacho420 apologies for the spam but i just happen to roll speed demon it shows +200% spd in advanced stats. When i add spd shard, items, gear, handler passive it goes up to +234%. From my testing both walking & sprinting does not seems any different so anything over 200% is just a visual change in numbers but doesn't actually change anything. Feel free to share that info.
Thank you. Man, the grind is unreal and the rng is just stupid. Not sure if I'll ever max level even one prysm :(
I know that they are looking into it but there is no way to know how it will change. Right now it's super grindy
do we know anything about being able to reset a prism without maxing it out?
The devs said they are thinking about it but no specifics were given
@@Mr-Nacho420 guess i'll spam boss rush to max out the one i fucked up
Thank so much Mr.Nacho
Did u know if u can reset a prism or sell it? The first one for me is really bad and i was wondering that question
you can only reset a prism when it is level 51
If you have 3 stones, is the stats from all three stones active at once or just the stone you equipped?
Only one at a time can be used. The other ones are there so you can do different builds and switch between them
Super informative and helpful video! Just curious, but about how much in-game time did it take you to go from resetting that fragment in the video, to the new one being fully leveled up with the max fusions and legendary fragment? including the grinding time of course?
That takes a ton of XP and I am not entirely sure how long it is but boss rush is the best way to do it so far. If you can slot in sage ring the yellow tonic and the scholar trait it goes by faster but you sacrifice a lot of damage or survivability for it. Best to play in group too!
@@Mr-Nacho420 Thanks for the info! Any estimates or do you remember about how many times you went through the boss rush?
@@Mr-Nacho420 group boss rush is currently bugged and only 1 person gets the completion bonus
any recommendation's on good ways to get alot of xp?
Only way is boss rush unless someone comes up with a better way
Are you xp farming for the prism lvl?
Yeah prism requires XP to level up. No way around it :C
I wish I watched this before messing up lol you can feed an already full prism fragments. Not so fun fact lol
Congratulations 😀
Thank you! Hope you have some good luck as well :)
What is the best way to fast level your prism? He mentioned boss rush but I the 19 boss version on veteran and only got like 4 levels. Is all the xp buff stuff applicable as well?
Yeah you need the xp buffs as well. Also I think being in a party helps
@@Mr-Nacho420 thanks for the reply. It seemed like you only get XP at the end or did it seem to affect the total gains if you had the buffs running the whole time? Also, does being in a party buff XP gains or just speed of clear?
@@deadcell9900 I think it just speeds up the clear but it can be a real challenge so if you go down then your party member can pick you up instead of instant loss
True, I had some random deaths when doing the runs on veteran lol.
I didn't really have played this boss rush mode yet. Are the drop chances different for the fragments on the harder the difficulties or is it on all the same?
Its the same as in normal game. To get mythic fragments you must have high overall archetype level and be on apocalypse
Thank you for this video, and i’m wondering…. If i don’t have all +5 lvl, i should wait to have it +5 before build the prism ?
You can feed multiple of the same smaller ones to fill out the prism if you have enough relic dust to keep rebuying them from dwell. But doing it at +5 is the most efficient way
@@Mr-Nacho420 thanks for your answer, i will do this, even i think boss rush in apocalypse should be better for having lvl 5 !
Hope it is possible to reset the prism because i started to build it before know the best way for this …
How do you farm XP so quickly? Just boss rushes?
The best way for now is boss rush. I am trying to find some other farm like we used to have with miasma.
@@Mr-Nacho420 Ya it seems like playing boss rush on veteran with a nice dps build isthe best way imo. the difficulty multiplier just isnt enough for any added time it tacks on. Though in a group that may be different, Ive just been running it solo with a easy archon build
So I’m guessing that it doesn’t actually matter what prism you use for leveling right?
As in different prisms are essentially “loadouts” for you to craft for x build?
Thats probably the case
is there a list anywhere of which fragments combine together?
Yeah. I have shown it in this video
Finally i understand this process! Thanks you!
I just started the game, i still don’t quite understand how the fragments works. It seems that they level up when i drop random fragments on mobs. Îm guessing fully upgraded they become mythic fragments. But how do you use Dwell efficiently? From what i could tell, he seems to sells randoms fragments, correct?
Yeah he does sell random fragments and to get the highest tier ones (mythic) you need to level up multiple archetypes to full (lvl10) so make sure that you are using and levelling multiple archetypes :)
We need a new Survival Mode because Boss-Rush alone just doesn't seem to really cut it.
I am still checking it out and the 3 and 7 boss variants are extremely easy. The longest one can be tough tho
What's the build you using for farm please
If I want to do boss rush quick I just go with my quickdraw build usually but since they reversed the nerfs on miasma the ritualist/warden build is great too. Very low risk and chill gameplay
Hello, thanks for the useful information. Sorry, do you know places to farm experience as quickly as possible?)
Boss rush is the best now since they disabled the miasma faming since it now requires line of sight :(
Good video man!
Glad you liked it!
Are you certain those are all the combinations?
As an engineer heavy weapon main I'm pretty pissed that they just completely overlooked this build type despite making the system so complicated
I am 99% sure that these are all combinations that exist
Do the names of the prism matter in any way? Does their rbg towards certain fragnents change?
I suspect that there are some prisms that have a higher or lower chance for specific legendary power but it needs to be confirmed still
Question for you guys, can you get part of a fusion upgrade (i.e., skill cd after getting revitalize) after you already have the fusion? I am trying to stack skill cd so I can free up ring slots, but feeding relic fragments doesn't let me boost the skill cd odds again after getting the fusion.
Edit: Didn't have time to finish video before I had to go and it answered my question.
I think you can't. You can only double up if it's one of the normal relic fragments you slot in and out. So you'd have 20% less cooldown in total. 10% from revitalize, and 10% for skill CD.
@@ChloeHV Thanks ChloeHV.
Is it possible to have like tank and sapper, because they have both DR. Or can judt one affect appear once?
You can only have one unique effect in a prism. If they overlap then they exclude each other as far as I know
does the base of the prism affect anything? each prism has its own legendary properties? is there any information about this somewhere?
Nothing confirmed. So far it just looks like they are like loadouts and aren't different from each other in any way
Will sharp shooter legendary fragment work with Archon Havoc lightning?
Nope
@@Mr-Nacho420 then jack of all trades it is. Thks again.